Voigt, Baggett, and Hollyweird

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0:53 Good Morning, True Seekers and truth crime Junkies. Welcome back to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac. I'd like to welcome to the show. Nolan del Campo. Good morning everybody. Happy Friday. Happy Friday. Indeed, I'm glad it's Friday. Oh maybe seven more hours of work and then we'll be done, right. I'm working backwards in following up on some comments that were made, some on LinkedIn, some on YouTube. First I wanted to talk about I started to mention it last week. It is a series that is on Prime Amazon Prime and it's called the World's Most Evil Prisoners. And I found kind of like this cross connection type scenario that I thought was extremely interesting. And this criminal named Ricky Dubos, I feel like I've heard his name before. Obviously, this is a more current criminal. But these are people who have been convicted of very dangerous crimes. They go into prison and they continue to kill, assaults correctional officers and inmates and other people, and for whatever reason, they keep getting put back into population with individuals they can hurt again. Now, some might yeah, some might say, oh, let them fight it out. They're all criminals, and so what what happens to him in there? But some people are so dangerous that they're just not even worthy of being around people who are there to protect them, such as the correctional officers.

2:26 Right, they're like used to be a caged animals. Really, and not even that one hour day out because that one hour a day out means that they have to come in contact with another individual that they will likely take a shot at. I used to do parole hearings for life criminals. I mean they committed. Murder or other life crimes, and they put me in a small visiting area, legal visiting area, and the person will be unhandcuffed and just free to attack me basically, and the guards wouldn't even pay much attention. They didn't really care about me. If I'm a defense so screw him. Yeah, I finally stopped giving it.

3:08 It was too heavy duty. Yeah, no, that would be way too much stress for me. Yeah. Well, Ricky who bows kills two correctional officers during a transport to prison, and then he is hung himself and I air quote it only because from a bed in prison. And the likeness that they show again is one similar to that of Epstein, where there's that huge controversy as to why all the cameras went out and why all the guards were sleeping, and how the hyoid bone got broken when it was impossible dude to do because he didn't literally, you know, fall from any hype. He basically just put a noose around his neck and leaned forward, which I highly doubt anybody's really got the balls to be able to do. I mean, that's a that's a very harsh way to kill yourself, I guess. And of course, the question of Epstein's father as to whether or not it was possible led him to have a secondary autopsy done which found the broken hyoid bone. This gentleman hung himself, like Epstein, from a bed in prison, But the family of one of the Slang correctional officers doesn't buy it and is questioning it, and so that brings us back to did the correctional system or law enforcement take things into their own hand because this man had killed two of their own.

4:31 That's my hypothesis. That's one of the families hypothesis is they thought this was just way too easy for this man to get out. And obviously he's willing to do just about anything to stay alive and out of prison, So why would he then just turn around and kill himself miraculously either way? One last person, I suppose that we have to pay for with our tax dollars, which brings into another question why we're paying for individuals that are like this and why they stay on death row so long that they're capable of actually killing and harming other people throughout that process. It's disgusting. Some of the YouTube comments that we have here is somebody commenting on Dennis Kaufman's The Real Story by Dennis Kaufman on the Zodiac says great work. Now.

5:19 I know that the next comment is over two years old, but I just love seeing this stuff. I'm convinced. Thank you for your dedication to the victims. This again goes out to Dennis Kaufman because I am not the person who created that docuseries or documentary. I am just replaying it intermittently throughout this process on the left. Yes, I believe, so, I believe. So last week I talked about Nancy R. Owens Jones, this individual who indicated that, well, I'll just read basically what she has said, and of course it says writer of first hand Cold War history in America nineteen sixty two to current. I've not read any of her works, but she reaches out to me and tells me voight as a con artist, and yes, handwriting doesn't lie.

6:14 It sounds like she's on the side of what I'm talking about with handwriting, but then goes on to say, my connection to my half brother Obama, I don't know if she means Barack Obama or not was proven by Perkins Cole and then denied I am the real zodiac female living in Polk County, Florida. Well, my response was, that's awesome. There's never been a single description in any file that supports a female zodiac. But you definitely made me giggle, right, And I'm thinking she's going to come back with some information. But that's extremely cryptic as far as I'm concerned you're related to Obama and you're the Zodiac.

6:58 This sounds to me like Deborah Perez, who was the love claim to be the love child of JFK and Marilyn Monroe, and then subsequently turns around and says she is the daughter of the Zodiac. I'm exhausted with people just not being that's weird. She totally changed gears. She says, Oh, I'm as a story in writing about the Cold War. Mins goes off on those tangents. Yeah. It gets even better because in the process of this, she goes on and says, here is my documented call to the FBI concerning my half brother's birth certificate on FBI Birth Report Birther Reports website. Just because you don't know the truth doesn't make my intel false. I never said her intel was false. As far as Obama, I have no way of proving or disproving this, and I'm not about to climb into researching it. You're coming at me with something that doesn't matter to me, So of course my response was to giggle, because again we've never heard or seen. This is why I want to stick with the FOIA files and the information given there to the police and the police reports and the things from the very beginning, because everything has been so construed from there on out. She goes on to say, well, I didn't know i'd be mentioned in your show today. Well, all I mentioned was she claims to be the Zodiac and she's a female. I'm so used to be blown off that I quit chasing it. I do recognize you

8:28 from the Bartow Jail in twenty twenty when you presented my Affidavid for signature. I have no clue what this person is talking about. I have no idea where the Bartow Jail is. In twenty twenty, we obviously had the shutdown. Most courts in everything was closed down. You couldn't get into anywhere, So even if I was acting as a notary, it wasn't likely that I was at any jail. Do you know where Bartow Jail is? I have no idea. Again, very confused. And if you're in County, Florida, how could I possibly be there when I live in California. Again, it's it's cryptic, it's confusing. There's just really it's nonsense.

9:10 There's no need to do this to somebody I don't know who. John Voyd clearly you're not watching the shows. So it's making me think that your research in the Cold War history is going to be a bit confusing as well, because I don't know who John Voyd is personally either, and to the best oh so, she's confusing Tom voy with okay, and to the best of my knowledge, I've never seen his face. I just know that most of the intel on Zodiac is fake. Clearly you do too. I received a marriage proposal from Mike Vohlan aka sal He said he was Vince Foster's son. I was also fake married to Mike Zulo More And the face that he tried to pass off his fake evidence for real in my brother's forged birth certificate is so typical of him.

10:05 He owns nothing either. My father, tom Owens, was the original suspect. I've never heard of tom Owens either, was the original suspect, as you most likely know, No, not as I most likely know. Why are you assuming or asserting yourself as if you've given me any information that I could even work with? I have nothing, and I'm not about to go looking up names like Vanilla tom Owens or Mike Moore or all of these names you're giving me that are likely going to I'm not going to find anything, big waste of time, but eventually ruled out, but not before doing serious damage to our family's reputation. Okay, so the original suspect who was ruled out, you want to now bring up and throw back into the mix and say that he's ruled out, but it's ruined my family's reputation. Like, I just don't understand where this person's coming from. This is I say it's cryptic, when really it's like the person's on drugs. They are back and forth and all over the place, but eventually ruled out, but not before doing serious damage or family's reputations. So where do we go from here? I have no freaking clue.

11:19 I have no freaking clue. Let's get down to earth. Let's give me some evidence or some research or something that I can actively work with. But instead of that, because I don't answer fast enough for this person. This is another narcissistic trait of individuals who cannot skip. They think they own your time or that that they're going to get your immediate time. So I'm getting these bling bling blings back and forth on LinkedIn about these messages that are coming in from this person, and I didn't go to look at them because again, none of it makes any sense to me. You're not coming at me in the right direction. LinkedIn is not the forum to do something like this. If you want to speak to me, you email me or you call me. My information is out there. So when I don't respond to these multiple messages this person, then what happened to them in childhood doesn't matter, so let's just get rid of them. Well that's all I need to know about you, audios. I'm like, oh my god, I don't even know about your childhood.

12:18 And I never said it didn't matter. Like, the only thing I said is you made me giggle. I've never heard that it was a female. But this person is now attacking me, blowing me up. Good morning, Lindsay, good morning. I hope you're catching on to all of this great stuff. Oh yeah, someone message was blowing you up on LinkedIn. Yeah yeah, And it seems very crazy. I mean what I mean, it's logical sense that you would email a person you wouldn't I mean, like really. Right, Just like with this last gentleman who said he was familiar in New post Gary post, he at least took the time to make a phone call to me to sit down and cover and go over some stuff.

13:06 And I have a little bit of follow up on that too. Let me see where I put that. Okay, yes, so on the next slide I did have a follow up on Voight's site actually mentions a brown Ford Mustang or a Chevy Corvare. This is the post I think connection and voids spelling that we're going to talk about here. So evidently there had been a Ford Mustang mentioned, and it is on Tom Voight's site. However, I tend to wonder, I mean, even if somebody thought Ford Mustang or Chevy Corvat, they obviously went with Chevy Corvert because they tried to pinhole Arthur Lee Allen over the corveat. Right. Yeah, so it's one or the other, but we don't know, so let's just throw it out there and see who it sticks to. However, everything else for post just doesn't make any sense. Running a group of teenagers is just not my idea of what the Zodiac would be involved with.

13:58 So now I'm starting to see what this did differences, and maybe there's a reason why Void allows his name to be spelled so many different ways, in so many different places, so that it can't somebody can't locate or find him. I don't know what the reasoning would be, but we do see in Voight's own information on his website that he spells his name voigt. Unless somebody else wrote this and wrote it all wrong. We see Voight over and over and over again with no age. Then on Fox News, which can we really trust them? They do get things wrong quite a bit. In November November December of nineteen ninety eight, they've spelled his name Tom Voight with an H. So it seems to me that everything about this man is to derive confusion. Yeah, for sure.

14:51 I mean we see that name, that name change and spelling change all the time with these with these cronies. So Jack Torn, it's Terrence, Terrence. Yeah, it's just even John Walsh, John Walsh, yep. Yeah, yeah. When we're about ready to climb back into him here in a second, after I follow some of this cleanup and laundry, but I did go back and I found the actual composits where Dennis had placed one of Jack's pictures next to the Sonoma County deposit composite. Because we had two to a bond. I'm saying that right too, Tota bond. Another person on YouTube that comments something I had never noticed before in the San Francisco composite sketch, the Zodiac suspect has a closed up left eye in relation to his right, and of course he's saying the Zodiac San Francisco sketch it does slightly. I think, look in the Zodiac sketch from San Francisco that that is.

15:52 But I noticed it obviously more in the Sonoma County composite, which again is just a dead ringer for Jack and I also got a response back. Remember when I said I got hit up by an email from the medical facilities that were those pop up tents during COVID for testing and vaccines and things like that. They sent me a bill asking me to pay. Of course, six years later I might add wanting insurance information or somebody to bill when I in fact paid ahead of time. I was getting ready to leave to Washington to do trial and I had to have a test before I left.

16:36 So this was the response. After I emailed them and told them my experience, they said, thank you for reaching out. We sincerely apologize for the confusion the situation have caused have caused I think that should be has caused, But upon reviewing your account, we confirmed that the charge was a build in error. The charge was for a COVID nineteen test, however, there was no piece see our test order on file. The only service recorded for the date of service was a COVID nineteen antigen test, and payment was initially collected during your visit. Please be assured that we have adjusted the charges and your account now reflects a zero balance. Kindly disregard the bill you received Kindly.

17:18 We apologize for any and I know we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused, and truly appreciate your understanding. If you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us. Regards Unice. Okay, thanks for that. I was right, well, it almost seems like it was trying to They were almost like like try to see if you're gonna pay first, and then you know, when you you know, wrote back and was like, uh no, this is incorrect, then they're like, oh okay, oh sorry, my bad. It was like they were probably not even gonna say anything if you would just went edit, paid it or went it? Provided your information exactly.

18:03 That's my point. Do you know, probably on the internet on emails, what is this for? So yeah, hundreds of thousands of these emails went out based on the fact that these people were the ones responsible for these pop up tents in many locations. I don't know if they serviced only California or if it was United States wide. And obviously them being given the contract was another favor during this full COVID epidemic that allowed somebody to make a lot of money. And now they're looking to double down and even triple down possibly on it by billing insurances. If most people forgot what it was that they had done and didn't remember that they had paid, they wouldn't notice shout back and say hey, no, no, no, no, I don't know you a darn thing. So you're right, lindsay there. This is just going to be another one of these things where they're making more money than they should be.

18:58 Yeah. Boy. So to top that off, I watched a documentary called Thank You, Doctor Fauci by Jenner First, and we've had evidently Fauci in this system of CDC and disease and viruses for five decades. Oh wow, I didn't know. I didn't even know of him until until the virus. Really, yeah, I hear his name come up or anything. Mm hmmm. And you know some of the key points of this. I'm not going to go over everything because they just don't have time for it. We have every all of these celebrities in Hollyweird that are idolizing him.

19:41 Thank you, doctor Fauci, thank you, you know, And there was mentions in this thing that doctor Fauci was really there perpetrating a pandemic and then looking to cure it in order to do some type of justice for this upper echelon of individuals. So it doesn't shock me that these people were the peeople who were idolizing and thinking him. I do want to note that there's so many cross referencing pieces of information in this documentary that actually we had something like nine grants that were going to Wuhan from the NIH and the US. He and all the people that have been surrounding the so called conspiracy behind this have all been attributed or linked to the Wuhan lab and other actual pandemic outbreaks such as AIDS in Africa during COVID. It shows that he went. Fauci went from a net worth of five million dollars to twelve million dollars. What does that say to us right there?

20:50 Yes me telling now if you take a step back from the individuals that were doing the polio vaccine in Africa and we had an outbreak of HIV and cross connect that to something that I found. We didn't go over all of these I use this to kind of show people the different programs from Operation paper Clip, Bluebird, MK Ultra, Midnight Climax, the gist of what we believe Jack possibly was involved with, and many other human experiments that were going on in mind control. And it's called What Really Happened the history the government hopes you don't learn, And the u ur L for this is h T T P S Colon forward slash forward slash what Really Happened dot com forward slash capital w R H A R T I c L E S forward slash bio war dot h T M L. And I brought this back up because of this whole new docu series that k or documentary that came out on Fauci just to kind of run you through some of the things that they were doing and I'm not going to read all of them to you because it's very in depth. It's over thirty nine page or I think it's thirty nine pages long when I printed it. But I did think it was worth revitalizing, at least for the last fifty years to see what was going on, and a lot of this was done against the Nuremberg laws that were set.

22:24 So nineteen sixty seven, the CIA and Department of Defense implement Project mk NAOMI. It's the successor to MK Ultra and designed to maintain, stockpile and test biological and chemical weapons. We're not supposed to be doing this. There are laws against this, they're bans against this. Right, Let's see if I can just pick out a couple here. United States, nineteen seventy. United States intensifies its development of ethnic weapons Military Review, November nineteen seventy. Designed to selectively target and eliminate specific ethnic groups who are susceptible due to genetic differences and variations in DNA. I felt that this was something that COVID was because they indicate that more than fifty percent of the population is asymptomatic when it comes to viruses, So I thought it was very interesting that they are learning to program, or as they call gain a function research which they're helping these viruses to gain a function that makes them stronger to attack and to adhere to the human body in a way they had never done before, in order to prevent the body from having any ability to kick or heal from that particular virus.

23:46 So well, this was an interesting one. Nineteen sixty nine. On June ninth, nineteen sixty nine, doctor Donald M. MacArthur, then Deputy Director of Research and Technology for the Department of Defense, appeared before the House Subcommittee on a Appropriations to request funding for a project to produce a synthetic biological agent for which humans have not yet acquired a natural immunity. Doctor MacArthur asked for ten million dollars to produce this agent over the next five to ten years. The progressional record reveals that, according to the plan for the development of this germ agent, the most important characteristic of the new disease would be that it might be refractory, resistant to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease. AIDS first appeared as a public health risk ten years later, appearing first in a population of gay men who had been subjects in a test of new hepatitis vaccine in nineteen eighty nine, worked by Alan Cantwell Junior, MD, linking AIDS to the hepatitis viral B vaccine experiments was suppressed at the nineteen eighty nine AIDS International Conference by officials of the World Health Organization. The reason I wanted to mention that is because the same people who were involved with the COVID pandemic were involved with a polio vaccine that was supposedly being tested in Africa which caused an aid's outbreak. Then we see it actually move into the United States. And as much as this individual, Alan Cantwell Junior, MD,

25:21 was suppressed, so was let me see his name here, where Robert Redfield, director of the CDC, was suppressed during open talks and task force with Trump. He was basically kicked out because he came to Fauci in the beginning and said that this did not look like something that was a natural transition from animal to human, that he believed that based on some of the attributes, that it was a lab created virus and it being that gain of function, it did gain a function. They had four attributes. He says that was attributed to this deadly virus which caused twenty million deaths and twenty five billion dollars in costs.

26:10 And those four items, let's see where I put that is a spike three spike proteins from HIV and a oh gosh, where did and a fear and cleavage site. And this is how it attaches to the cells and becomes so infectious to humans. So based on all of that, and let's go with Adam and Andrew Zeuski. He was a right a columnist for Forbes magazine, very high up, had always been attributed to great articles, very well prided in what it was that he reported on and did found himself fired at the hands of COVID because he was out speaking out about Fauci. So what and why does Fauci have all of this protection and how is it that he can get away with all of this when he has been involved with five decades of this stuff. Well, let's tell you why. On the history of the government respect for human life, there is actually Public Law ninety five Dash seventy nine PL ninety five Dash seventy nine, Title fifty Chapter thirty two, Section fifteen twenty Chemical and Biological Warfare Program the use of human subjects will be allowed for the testing of chemical and biological agents by the US Department of Defense, accounting to Congressional committees with respect to experiments and studies followed by the Secretary of Defense may conduct test and experience involved experiments involving the use of chemical and biological warfare agents on civilian populations

27:43 within the United States. The source again, Public Law ninety five Dash seventy nine, Title eight, section eight oh eight, was found in July thirtieth of nineteen seventy seven. So it reports you as you can see Nolan, all the different sources that you can cite it from. So basically they have this right to do this to us. The CIA had been doing those experiments for years illegally. Yes, they did find that their CIA was involved. CIA was involved, and there were meetings at the CIA office that included Fauci and the other individuals that have been associated with him through the COVID pandemic. That's why Frank Olsen was murdered.

28:26 Exactly knew about it, and he was one of the scientists, one of the engineers, scientific engineers that worked for the CIA and Defense, and he wasn't really happy when he found out what his work was really going towards. Exactly do some of them for the good of people, but. He don't speak out against the agenda. Yes, it is as much like the district attorney in New York who refused to run for mayor, even though he probably would have done a darned good job, but he was afraid that he'd be put on the firing line and then his life would be at stake because he would speak out against these people who is being told not to speak out about There. Was large scale experimentation in this town in France.

29:07 They basically poisoned the whole town and many people that really sick and some people died. Was that doing the water experiments in the Bay Area too, in San Francisco with clouds of different chemicals being unwittingly dropped on the populace. I think you're going to see all of what you're talking about in that documentary. Thank you, doctor Fauci, because you got to remember he's been involved for fifty years, So fifty years puts him back to nineteen seventy five, nineteen seventy six. Yeah, so that title should be lack of respect, not respect. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I. Know that respect well, if it's them or their family are other rich people than they respect. But if you're ranking vile person or someone that's in jail, or even college students, they yes experimenting on.

29:59 People for year. We are their budding joke and their experiment. To all degrees. It seems like, or at least it feels like when you hear about these types of things, there was so much controversy and then it's considered a conspiracy because doctor Fauci says if you question science that if you questioned me, then you question science. No, we questioned the deadliness of it. There's a reason why bio warfare has been banned. There's a reason why. That's one of the reasons the president can overwrite a veto to Congress to go to war. It is so potentially dangerous. The fact that you're even attempting to research and create these things. One leak it says, our labs are not prepared to contain these type of antigens and all of these different diseases that they're they're working on and attempting to There was some article written by one of the gentlemen called Diffuse, and it basically one year before the whole COVID pandemic, described creating the pandemic so that they could discover a cure, in essence, being ahead of the game in case a pandemic happens. Well, you're killing people to do that, and it didn't exist before you implemented it. And then to find out there's a landmark deal and a contract with Maderna for a vaccination that existed also years before the pandemic happened. I'm just I'm a little in shock. I'm a little blown away.

31:28 I didn't know this was something that I would face, or that my livelihood in general could be shut down as it was during COVID. Now that's what brings me to our presentation and what we talk about with the Zodiac and the program that it is devised by. Right, So we climbed out of tom Voight basically at this point and into Bart Baggett because I was a student of Bart Baggett when Dennis Kaufman contacted me. So I wanted to show you guys some of the things that I pulled down from Bart's site. One of them is. The analysis of these five samples will be finished soon, so check back. This is one of the Zodiac letters up here in the left hand corner, and I want you to note that this copyright is nineteen ninety five to nineteen ninety nine, last updated September seventeenth of nineteen ninety nine. So be at approximately the same time that I'm saying that Tom Vod is doing the episode with John Walsh on the Zodiac, we find that there's inclusiveness between Bart Baggett. He's aware of who Tom Boyd is, He's worked with Tom Boyd. In fact, we're going to see that he even promotes Tom Voyd and then he comes himself with his own false suspect. Deborah Perez It says, yeah, says Bart Baggett is an American author and speaker. Baggott is a ten time author who has appeared on over fifteen hundred radio TV shows, including CNN Today Show, Good Morning America, and appeared at over sixteen feature films. Lindsey, I wish you were here speaking right now, because good Morning to Mare, Oh kay, isn't Good Morning to America

33:00 the one that John Walsh said that he wanted to live his his investigation through instead of the FBI. Yes, but he also was on Good America the day out they found oudam. Ted right, and he allowed that show to go on as he was perpetrating a call on Bear America when his son's head had been found. So, in addition to Bart's success as an author and expert, you might recognize Bart Baggett from as many appearances on national TV commercials, feature films, documentaries, Where's a Guest on the top rated radio and TV shows over the past two decades, including CNN's Larry King Live shown in the image, Glenn Black Show, paul Is Howard Stern, Good Morning America, and The Today Show.

33:49 So it just goes on and on and on in this affiliation with Hollywood continues to occur. Now, I was told at one point in time that I was in over my head when I was ready to release my opinion that I needed to have approved through Burt Baggett unknowingly having been given altered letters. And I will state with infatuation, in fact, this is an area I would actually bet on, and I'm not a gambler, is that he knew exactly the size of these letters, and he provided them to me altered and enlargened both height and width, which to me is a disgusting turn of events for me to find out in the end from Terence Pascal that they were not eight and a half by eleven letters.

34:33 So a handwriting expert or what's his expertise? He is, well, he proclaims to be a marketing expert. But he found a niche for creating a school to teach document examiners, and he is the school that I attended, so I was an apprentice in his school at the time Dennis Kaufman came to me, So he. Ran the school. But is he actual handwriting expert? Purportedly when he has time and he's not too busy, he does his job because I've come up against cases. In fact, I just heard from another document examiner who was on a case with him, in which case he provided the very evidence she needed to support and prove her case as an opposing examiner against him, which is what he did with me. In another case, he attempted to proclaim that the signature was an authentic signature when the exemplars that he used to study, one of them was the actual sample that the person used to cut and paste onto the lease, and his proclamation was, oh, I was just busy. I must admit it. I must have missed it. That's not a reason to miss something.

35:35 And you chose to write an opinion in a case you couldn't even appear in court. So Bart Baggett wasn't even present, and the client wasn't even allowed to present their opinion from him because he wasn't there's a witness. So all he did tell me, Yeah, all he did was charge these people money for what a sloppy job, and then he couldn't even be there to perform on their side. And maybe that was selective. Maybe he just in one of my very first cases, I thought that the signature was authentic. My clients paid for me to go all the way out to South Carolina. I got there, there was an opposing examiner. I was provided with many more instances of this man's signature which concluded my opinion was right. But because I was paid by this client, I had to render my opinion to Bart first, and then Bart had to tell me what to tell the client.

36:26 And Bart came back and said that it was a forgery, but he's making more than fifty percent of my income at this point in time, because I'm still an apprentice, So fifty percent of the money I was paid to go out to South Carolina went into his pocket and he was wrong. I was right then. I when I was ready to release my opinion in the Zodiac case with CBS thirteen News, I got a phone call from him telling him I could be kicked out of the school. I could lose my tuition, which was twelve thousand dollars At the time. I was physically sick to my stomach. Did I just you know, almost two years into an education, that I was about to lose because I wanted to tell the truth and then ultimately to find out that his suspect was false. From the gate, Deborah Perez was never a legitimate, ridiculous right.

37:16 It was like a hoax. It was a hoax. One year she's claiming the love child of JFK and Marilyn Monroe, and the next year she's the daughter of the Zodiac killer. And she's not even biologically related to the man. She's a publicity him. So move and girls, baggett. That's what I want to. Know, hollyweared interesting. I mean, clearly hollyweard, why else did he move from Texas to California ten months after I became an apprentice after saying I have the entire California area to myself. Ten months later he moves to Los Angeles. And it's all to perpetuate this false suspect on Deba Perez and this this documentary which I successfully blew up.

37:58 I guess because it never happened. It never heurd and everybody debunked Dubber Perez from day one. Oh yeah, yeah, the news and in the chronicle. And she was for a minute, he was. All across the world. Everybody got together. She was the daughter of the Zodiac. And five seconds of the FBI recanting stating that her dad, her adopted father, was not the Zodiac. Five seconds only made it here locally. It probably didn't even make it across the United States. Well, it's funny to me that they all, these these these people all come from Texas, so many of them, and then we see Jack back and forth to Texas.

38:40 All the time, all the time. It's not a coincidence, you know. And there's a lot of key figures in other cases that I have found that have lots of times to Texas as well, in particularly the Charlie Kirk case. So it's just wild. Let me see what he says, because he does have a couple of things to say about the Zodiac writing. So he's got a couple letters up here, the Button letter, the Riverside City College Desk poem in the Zodiac debut letter Bart Baggett puts on his website. Note these graphics were purchased from the most complete Zodiac site available, and you can also purchase most of the high resolution graphics. They're not a high resolution they're altered graphics. People and see other letters not published here at the Zodiac Killer dot com website. So here's the inclusion. If everybody thinks it's just a mere coincidence that Bart tried to keep me from rendering my opinion on Jack's handwriting how to fake suspect, just as tom Boy runs on all his sites and he's surrounding the same people such as America's Most Wanted John Walsh tomboy and then promoting Tomboy for people to go purchase this stuff from him, It says. The person who runs this site takes donations for the full graphics and has been very helpful during this investigation and TV show production. Read the Heinz Report, which points circumstantial evidence that Lawrence Kane.

40:04 So again, now he's naming not Deborah Perez, but he's naming Lawrence Kane. So who are the suspects? Rick Marshall, Arthur Lee, Allen, Andy Walker, Lawrence Kin, Michael O'Hare, Bruce Davis, Ted Gazinski, others. This looks like a how to guide to dissuade the public from figuring out who they should even be looking at when he repeatedly puts forth people who have been cleared and assisting in the confusion at the bottom right right, Yes, yeah, yeah, I did throw him up. I did throw him up, as he looked nothing like the Zodiac. But I'm I'm wondering if this is the go to manual for the twenty on twenty DNA test that was done where they ruled out eight suspects, which included most of the people on this list. So I'm not sure if this particular website was before or after the actual DNA test, but it probably was around the same timeframe. He goes on to say, in my opinion that Zodiac writings don't match checks written by Arthur Lee Allen and the Document Examiner in the nineteen seventies agree see the findings even as poorly written custody writing doesn't match. What about Lawrence Keynes writing from police files under questioning fake writing see it here. So again I'm just at a loss. Some of the last items that I actually had from Tom Voyd's site, where these pictures that he's taken of what they want to call the Zodiac Cabin. So it says located in an isolated spot

41:35 in the hills over Lake Herman Road in Valeo. The Zodiac Shack has been rumored for years by locals to be the former hideout of the Zodiac Killer. The property has been abandoned for decades, but I found it thanks to directions from some residents of nearby Benetia. These photos were taken on the morning of December twentieth, nineteen ninety eight. Click pictures for larger images. It goes on to make comments like the shack is just past the ranch of the late Stella Borde who discovered Zodiac's Lake Herman Roade victims on December twentieth of nineteen sixty eight. The next one I found myself out of cell phone range. If Zodiac really did use this area to hide from police, he picked a good spot. Welcome to the World's Scariest Hallway. So he's already promoting this even though there's no known evidence to support that the Zodiac was here. So he's just creating a little bit more of a mystery and nonsense and no real way. I mean, if the Zodiac, I contend is living on a makeshift bus, school bus, which is why he talks about a school bus in his letters and then later says, if you thought it was going to blow up a bunch of children, then you're basically just stupid and morons is a key indicator that he is the bomb on the bus. He has the information, he knows what's going on, and he can bring people down with that information. So I'm not going to read any more of these, but you can go on through. He's even done America's Most Wanted Target Zodiac.

42:58 In October nineteen ninety eight, America's Most Wanted hired me to act as a consultant in their first feature on the Zodiac case, as well as to write the cover story for their magazine, Man Hunter. The show aired December nineteen ninety eight and was their highest rated of the year. Manhunter rapidly sold out. Surprised that the public's enduring interest in the case, amw quickly developed another television feature using the FBI's John Douglas to profile Zodiac. So they saw a way to make money, so they repeated it. Yep, well they used that rhetoric, the same rhetoric too, Man Hunter, The hunters will become the hunted, like it's all and if John Walsh had the show on the.

43:42 Hunt, It's like, what is this? You know, it's really a pattern. You clearly couldn't even investigate and hunt your own son's killer exactly. I mean, what makes you the leading expert or knowledgeable individual to lead any investigation when you've done everything wrong in the investigation of your son's own murder, not having the FBI, in, not wanting the FBI or law enforcement to dig into the skeletons, dropping a lawsuit against Sears because you don't want to get up there and be grilled in deposition about your skeletons.

44:22 Was there any ever any allegation or investigation as child big lect in regard to his son's murder. Sort of it was sort of with the with the boy that was living with them, the younger boy, oh god, just lost his name that Revee was having an affair with. He was like twenty twenty one, and that was supposed to be the godfather of Adam and he would take in places and help pick him up and stuff like that. But also I think there was evidence of abuse based on the depositions and in whenever they did the interviews of James James, is that James.

45:08 Campbell his name and drugs right, Yes, he was the one that had told his attorney about it. And then that's where they went after, you know, and told Sears that this Sears attorney and was like, oh, well, we're you know, we're going to get them for this. And then they agreed just to just to like nazo Sears because they didn't want their you know, cocaine history and abuse of drugs being uh, you know, aired out, like you said, their laundry. So then so I gathered that there's child abuse based on James's statement of how like for instance, I think sometimes that weeker in the week before, he had took Adam to see a movie and in the the movie was like ten o'clock at night is when it started. And then so who knows when it got over it And then after they got it got over, James went to some place and grabbed a beer, a can of beer, supposedly one can, and then took Adam home. So it's like, why are you taking a six year old child home that late? Then you're going to somewhere to get to get a beer, like I mean to me, that's some type of child abuse if you're letting, you know, this non biological person carry your child, your six year old child out late at night like that, and like succepting them to things

46:38 that they shouldn't be susceptible to. I want to know what kids movie plays at ten o'clock at night, right, I. Don't even know if it mentioned the movie the name of it, I'd have to go back and see what the in the in the reports that say. But yeah, I think that's actually when it happened, possibly whenever I think you know they had James do it right insane? Well, I did find one blank entry for a mailed letter on April thirtieth of sixty seven, and the Sherry Joe Bates case on Tomvoit's website postmark Riverside, California, sent to the Riverside Press Enterprise. I am not sure if this is one we have already seen, because of course, once again it has been torn down, but it would be interesting to note which one this is. Uh Oh, I thought I was done with Tom Voyd, but my gosh, and we've got a little bit, just a little bit more information, so on one nineteen of one he posts.

47:38 In the last few years, I've collected many police reports and other Zodiac related items that I haven't posted at this site, although I have received many requests to do so. In most cases, the sheer size of the documents, as well as privacy issues privacy issues have made posting them unrealistic. In other cases, such as with video or audio, the cost has been too high. As a solution, I decided to make some of these items available to order, including Don Cheney interview. Oh Don Cheney, don't get me involved. It turns out Don Cheney is was he one of the suspects in the You trying to remember who he is in the in the because I think I get a mixed with the other political guy, Cheney that was involved with the COVID stuff. Oh yeah you did, Yeah, it says Darlene Farren. Dick Cheney, Yes, he's involved COVID stuff somehow, or at least some some attribute of getting the bio warfare program or ban cut off so that they could continue with that gain of function research Darlene Farren, Mike Majeu Valleo Police Department report, Mike paul Stein, San Francisco Police Department report, Kathleen John's police reports. I want to see the Kathleen John's police reports. Those are interesting.

48:59 Suspector courts including Arthur Lee, Allen, Lawrence Kane, Rick Marshall, and Andy Walker. Howard Stern show from December nineteen ninety eight, featuring this site. For a complete list of items, email mewar Wow, I'd like to. I'd like to. I would like to see that one. I tell you, Howard Stern, Jesse Ventura. What's the other guy that does the He acts like he's on our side, but I don't. I don't believe he is. I can't think of his name now. Anyways, we are. Not Larry King. Larry King was one of them. No, no, no, no, this is one of these guys that do a podcast. But yes, he's really yeah, he's really not on our side. I don't think.

49:42 Yeah, I think in some instances, yeah, but not that it gives us just. Enough to help us believe even though he probably knows more and he is not telling us that more. But there's somebody who's dictating what it is that he shares. Oh yeah, yeah, sure. So that's it, you guys were at the end of our segment. This has been amo awesome. I think next week we will be past the Tom Void stuff at a minimum and back on into the actual letters written to Tom voit. So everybody have a wonderful weekend and we will see you next Friday. Thank you guys pace m BI