June 12, 2026

Voigt, Baggett, and Hollyweird

Voigt, Baggett, and Hollyweird
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As we finish up with Tom Voigt’s website content from circa 1998, we will look at the inclusion of others affiliated with Voigt and their attempts to put forth other fake suspects while attempting to deter an identification of Jack W. Tarrance, Jr’s handwriting. Followed by new letters written to Voigt in 2002 and 2003 which are strangely taking credit and giving forensic evidence to support the claims of being the Zodiac Killer. This is striking similar to the Zodiac Killer’s persona.

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Good Morning, True Seekers and truth crime Junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.

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I'd like to welcome to the show. Nolan del Campo.

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Good morning everybody. Happy Friday.

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Happy Friday. Indeed, I'm glad it's Friday. Oh maybe seven

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more hours of work and then we'll be done, right.

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I'm working backwards in following up on some comments that

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were made, some on LinkedIn, some on YouTube. First I

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wanted to talk about I started to mention it last week.

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It is a series that is on Prime Amazon Prime

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and it's called the World's Most Evil Prisoners. And I

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found kind of like this cross connection type scenario that

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I thought was extremely interesting. And this criminal named Ricky Dubos,

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I feel like I've heard his name before. Obviously, this

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is a more current criminal. But these are people who

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have been convicted of very dangerous crimes. They go into

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prison and they continue to kill, assaults correctional officers and

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inmates and other people, and for whatever reason, they keep

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getting put back into population with individuals they can hurt again. Now,

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some might yeah, some might say, oh, let them fight

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it out. They're all criminals, and so what what happens

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to him in there? But some people are so dangerous

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that they're just not even worthy of being around people

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who are there to protect them, such as the correctional officers.

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Right, they're like used to be a caged animals.

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Really, and not even that one hour day out because

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that one hour a day out means that they have

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to come in contact with another individual that they will

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likely take a shot at.

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I used to do parole hearings for life criminals. I

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mean they committed.

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Murder or other life crimes, and they put me in

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a small visiting area, legal visiting area, and the person

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will be unhandcuffed and just free to attack me basically,

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and the guards wouldn't even pay much attention.

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They didn't really care about me. If I'm a defense

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so screw him.

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Yeah, I finally stopped giving it.

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It was too heavy duty.

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Yeah, no, that would be way too much stress for me.

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Yeah.

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Well, Ricky who bows kills two correctional officers during a

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transport to prison, and then he is hung himself and

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I air quote it only because from a bed in prison.

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And the likeness that they show again is one similar

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to that of Epstein, where there's that huge controversy as

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to why all the cameras went out and why all

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the guards were sleeping, and how the hyoid bone got

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broken when it was impossible dude to do because he

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didn't literally, you know, fall from any hype. He basically

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just put a noose around his neck and leaned forward,

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which I highly doubt anybody's really got the balls to

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be able to do. I mean, that's a that's a

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very harsh way to kill yourself, I guess. And of course,

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the question of Epstein's father as to whether or not

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it was possible led him to have a secondary autopsy

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done which found the broken hyoid bone. This gentleman hung himself,

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like Epstein, from a bed in prison, But the family

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of one of the Slang correctional officers doesn't buy it

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and is questioning it, and so that brings us back

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to did the correctional system or law enforcement take things

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into their own hand because this man had killed two

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of their own.

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That's my hypothesis.

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That's one of the families hypothesis is they thought this

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was just way too easy for this man to get out.

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And obviously he's willing to do just about anything to

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stay alive and out of prison, So why would he

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then just turn around and kill himself miraculously either way?

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One last person, I suppose that we have to pay

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for with our tax dollars, which brings into another question

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why we're paying for individuals that are like this and

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why they stay on death row so long that they're

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capable of actually killing and harming other people throughout that process.

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It's disgusting. Some of the YouTube comments that we have

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here is somebody commenting on Dennis Kaufman's The Real Story

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by Dennis Kaufman on the Zodiac says great work. Now.

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I know that the next comment is over two years old,

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but I just love seeing this stuff. I'm convinced. Thank

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you for your dedication to the victims. This again goes

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out to Dennis Kaufman because I am not the person

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who created that docuseries or documentary. I am just replaying

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it intermittently throughout this process on the left. Yes, I believe, so,

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I believe. So last week I talked about Nancy R.

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Owens Jones, this individual who indicated that, well, I'll just

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read basically what she has said, and of course it

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says writer of first hand Cold War history in America

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nineteen sixty two to current. I've not read any of

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her works, but she reaches out to me and tells

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me voight as a con artist, and yes, handwriting doesn't lie.

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It sounds like she's on the side of what I'm

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talking about with handwriting, but then goes on to say,

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my connection to my half brother Obama, I don't know

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if she means Barack Obama or not was proven by

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Perkins Cole and then denied I am the real zodiac

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female living in Polk County, Florida. Well, my response was,

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that's awesome. There's never been a single description in any

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file that supports a female zodiac. But you definitely made

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me giggle, right, And I'm thinking she's going to come

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back with some information. But that's extremely cryptic as far

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as I'm concerned you're related to Obama and you're the Zodiac.

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This sounds to me like Deborah Perez, who was the

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love claim to be the love child of JFK and

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Marilyn Monroe, and then subsequently turns around and says she

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is the daughter of the Zodiac. I'm exhausted with people

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just not being that's weird.

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She totally changed gears. She says, Oh, I'm as a

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story in writing about the Cold War. Mins goes off

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on those tangents.

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Yeah. It gets even better because in the process of this,

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she goes on and says, here is my documented call

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to the FBI concerning my half brother's birth certificate on

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FBI Birth Report Birther Reports website. Just because you don't

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know the truth doesn't make my intel false. I never

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said her intel was false. As far as Obama, I

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have no way of proving or disproving this, and I'm

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not about to climb into researching it. You're coming at

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me with something that doesn't matter to me, So of

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course my response was to giggle, because again we've never

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heard or seen. This is why I want to stick

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with the FOIA files and the information given there to

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the police and the police reports and the things from

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the very beginning, because everything has been so construed from

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there on out. She goes on to say, well, I

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didn't know i'd be mentioned in your show today. Well,

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all I mentioned was she claims to be the Zodiac

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and she's a female. I'm so used to be blown

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off that I quit chasing it. I do recognize you

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from the Bartow Jail in twenty twenty when you presented

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my Affidavid for signature. I have no clue what this

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person is talking about. I have no idea where the

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Bartow Jail is. In twenty twenty, we obviously had the shutdown.

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Most courts in everything was closed down. You couldn't get

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into anywhere, So even if I was acting as a notary,

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it wasn't likely that I was at any jail. Do

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you know where Bartow Jail is?

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I have no idea.

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Again, very confused. And if you're in County, Florida, how

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could I possibly be there when I live in California. Again,

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it's it's cryptic, it's confusing. There's just really it's nonsense.

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There's no need to do this to somebody I don't

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know who. John Voyd clearly you're not watching the shows.

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So it's making me think that your research in the

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Cold War history is going to be a bit confusing

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as well, because I don't know who John Voyd is

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personally either, and to the best oh so, she's confusing

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Tom voy with okay, and to the best of my knowledge,

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I've never seen his face. I just know that most

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of the intel on Zodiac is fake. Clearly you do too.

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I received a marriage proposal from Mike Vohlan aka sal

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He said he was Vince Foster's son. I was also

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fake married to Mike Zulo More And the face that

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he tried to pass off his fake evidence for real

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in my brother's forged birth certificate is so typical of him.

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He owns nothing either. My father, tom Owens, was the

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original suspect. I've never heard of tom Owens either, was

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the original suspect, as you most likely know, No, not

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as I most likely know. Why are you assuming or

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asserting yourself as if you've given me any information that

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I could even work with? I have nothing, and I'm

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not about to go looking up names like Vanilla tom

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Owens or Mike Moore or all of these names you're

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giving me that are likely going to I'm not going

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to find anything, big waste of time, but eventually ruled out,

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but not before doing serious damage to our family's reputation. Okay,

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so the original suspect who was ruled out, you want

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to now bring up and throw back into the mix

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and say that he's ruled out, but it's ruined my

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family's reputation. Like, I just don't understand where this person's

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coming from. This is I say it's cryptic, when really

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it's like the person's on drugs. They are back and

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forth and all over the place, but eventually ruled out,

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but not before doing serious damage or family's reputations. So

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where do we go from here? I have no freaking clue.

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I have no freaking clue. Let's get down to earth.

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Let's give me some evidence or some research or something

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that I can actively work with. But instead of that,

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because I don't answer fast enough for this person. This

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is another narcissistic trait of individuals who cannot skip. They

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think they own your time or that that they're going

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to get your immediate time. So I'm getting these bling

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bling blings back and forth on LinkedIn about these messages

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that are coming in from this person, and I didn't

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go to look at them because again, none of it

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makes any sense to me. You're not coming at me

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in the right direction. LinkedIn is not the forum to

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do something like this. If you want to speak to me,

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you email me or you call me. My information is

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out there. So when I don't respond to these multiple

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messages this person, then what happened to them in childhood

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doesn't matter, so let's just get rid of them. Well

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that's all I need to know about you, audios. I'm like,

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oh my god, I don't even know about your childhood.

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And I never said it didn't matter. Like, the only

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thing I said is you made me giggle. I've never

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heard that it was a female. But this person is

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now attacking me, blowing me up. Good morning, Lindsay, good morning.

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I hope you're catching on to all of this great stuff.

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Oh yeah, someone message was blowing you up on LinkedIn.

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Yeah yeah, And it seems very crazy.

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I mean what I mean, it's logical sense that you

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would email a person you wouldn't I mean, like really.

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Right, Just like with this last gentleman who said he

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was familiar in New post Gary post, he at least

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took the time to make a phone call to me

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to sit down and cover and go over some stuff.

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And I have a little bit of follow up on

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that too. Let me see where I put that. Okay, yes,

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so on the next slide I did have a follow

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up on Voight's site actually mentions a brown Ford Mustang

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or a Chevy Corvare. This is the post I think

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connection and voids spelling that we're going to talk about here.

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So evidently there had been a Ford Mustang mentioned, and

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it is on Tom Voight's site. However, I tend to wonder,

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they obviously went with Chevy Corvert because they tried to

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pinhole Arthur Lee Allen over the corveat.

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so let's just throw it out there and see who

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it sticks to. However, everything else for post just doesn't

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make any sense. Running a group of teenagers is just

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and maybe there's a reason why Void allows his name

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to be spelled so many different ways, in so many

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different places, so that it can't somebody can't locate or

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find him. I don't know what the reasoning would be,

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website that he spells his name voigt. Unless somebody else

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wrote this and wrote it all wrong. We see Voight

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over and over and over again with no age. Then

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on Fox News, which can we really trust them? They

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do get things wrong quite a bit. In November November

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December of nineteen ninety eight, they've spelled his name Tom

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Voight with an H. So it seems to me that

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everything about this man is to derive confusion. Yeah, for sure.

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I mean we see that name, that name change and

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spelling change all the time with these with these cronies.

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So Jack Torn, it's Terrence, Terrence.

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this cleanup and laundry, but I did go back and

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I found the actual composits where Dennis had placed one

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of Jack's pictures next to the Sonoma County deposit composite.

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right too, Tota bond. Another person on YouTube that comments

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something I had never noticed before in the San Francisco

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composite sketch, the Zodiac suspect has a closed up left

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eye in relation to his right, and of course he's

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saying the Zodiac San Francisco sketch it does slightly. I think,

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look in the Zodiac sketch from San Francisco that that is.

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which again is just a dead ringer for Jack and

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I also got a response back. Remember when I said

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I got hit up by an email from the medical

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facilities that were those pop up tents during COVID for

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testing and vaccines and things like that. They sent me

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a bill asking me to pay. Of course, six years

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later I might add wanting insurance information or somebody to

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bill when I in fact paid ahead of time. I

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was getting ready to leave to Washington to do trial

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and I had to have a test before I left.

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told them my experience, they said, thank you for reaching out.

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have caused I think that should be has caused, But

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upon reviewing your account, we confirmed that the charge was

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a build in error. The charge was for a COVID

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nineteen test, however, there was no piece see our test

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order on file. The only service recorded for the date

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of service was a COVID nineteen antigen test, and payment

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was initially collected during your visit. Please be assured that

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we have adjusted the charges and your account now reflects

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a zero balance. Kindly disregard the bill you received Kindly.

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We apologize for any and I know we apologize for

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any inconvenience this may have caused, and truly appreciate your understanding.

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If you have any further questions or concerns, please do

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not hesitate to contact us. Regards Unice. Okay, thanks for that.

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trying to They were almost like like try to see

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if you're gonna pay first, and then you know, when

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you you know, wrote back and was like, uh no,

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this is incorrect, then they're like, oh okay, oh sorry,

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my bad. It was like they were probably not even

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gonna say anything if you would just went edit, paid

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it or went it? Provided your information exactly.

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Do you know, probably on the internet on emails, what

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is this for?

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based on the fact that these people were the ones

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responsible for these pop up tents in many locations. I

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don't know if they serviced only California or if it

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was United States wide. And obviously them being given the

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contract was another favor during this full COVID epidemic that

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allowed somebody to make a lot of money. And now

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they're looking to double down and even triple down possibly

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on it by billing insurances. If most people forgot what

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it was that they had done and didn't remember that

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they had paid, they wouldn't notice shout back and say hey, no, no, no, no,

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I don't know you a darn thing. So you're right,

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lindsay there. This is just going to be another one

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of these things where they're making more money than they

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should be.

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So to top that off, I watched a documentary called

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Thank You, Doctor Fauci by Jenner First, and we've had

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evidently Fauci in this system of CDC and disease and

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viruses for five decades.

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him until until the virus. Really, yeah, I hear his

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name come up or anything.

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Mm hmmm. And you know some of the key points

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of this. I'm not going to go over everything because

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they just don't have time for it. We have every

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all of these celebrities in Hollyweird that are idolizing him.

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Thank you, doctor Fauci, thank you, you know, And there

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was mentions in this thing that doctor Fauci was really

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there perpetrating a pandemic and then looking to cure it

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in order to do some type of justice for this

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upper echelon of individuals. So it doesn't shock me that

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these people were the peeople who were idolizing and thinking him.

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I do want to note that there's so many cross

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referencing pieces of information in this documentary that actually we

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had something like nine grants that were going to Wuhan

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from the NIH and the US. He and all the

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people that have been surrounding the so called conspiracy behind

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this have all been attributed or linked to the Wuhan

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lab and other actual pandemic outbreaks such as AIDS in

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Africa during COVID. It shows that he went. Fauci went

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from a net worth of five million dollars to twelve

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million dollars. What does that say to us right there?

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from the individuals that were doing the polio vaccine in

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Africa and we had an outbreak of HIV and cross

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connect that to something that I found. We didn't go

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over all of these I use this to kind of

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show people the different programs from Operation paper Clip, Bluebird,

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MK Ultra, Midnight Climax, the gist of what we believe

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Jack possibly was involved with, and many other human experiments

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that were going on in mind control. And it's called

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What Really Happened the history the government hopes you don't learn,

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And the u ur L for this is h T

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war dot h T M L. And I brought this

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k or documentary that came out on Fauci just to

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kind of run you through some of the things that

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they were doing and I'm not going to read all

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of them to you because it's very in depth. It's

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over thirty nine page or I think it's thirty nine

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pages long when I printed it. But I did think

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it was worth revitalizing, at least for the last fifty

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years to see what was going on, and a lot

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of this was done against the Nuremberg laws that were set.

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So nineteen sixty seven, the CIA and Department of Defense

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implement Project mk NAOMI. It's the successor to MK Ultra

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and designed to maintain, stockpile and test biological and chemical weapons.

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We're not supposed to be doing this. There are laws

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against this, they're bans against this. Right, Let's see if

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I can just pick out a couple here. United States,

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nineteen seventy. United States intensifies its development of ethnic weapons

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Military Review, November nineteen seventy. Designed to selectively target and

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eliminate specific ethnic groups who are susceptible due to genetic

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differences and variations in DNA. I felt that this was

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something that COVID was because they indicate that more than

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fifty percent of the population is asymptomatic when it comes

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to viruses, So I thought it was very interesting that

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they are learning to program, or as they call gain

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a function research which they're helping these viruses to gain

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a function that makes them stronger to attack and to

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adhere to the human body in a way they had

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never done before, in order to prevent the body from

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having any ability to kick or heal from that particular virus.

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So well, this was an interesting one. Nineteen sixty nine.

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On June ninth, nineteen sixty nine, doctor Donald M. MacArthur,

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then Deputy Director of Research and Technology for the Department

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of Defense, appeared before the House Subcommittee on a Appropriations

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to request funding for a project to produce a synthetic

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biological agent for which humans have not yet acquired a

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natural immunity. Doctor MacArthur asked for ten million dollars to

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produce this agent over the next five to ten years.

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The progressional record reveals that, according to the plan for

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the development of this germ agent, the most important characteristic

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of the new disease would be that it might be refractory,

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resistant to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we

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depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease. AIDS

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first appeared as a public health risk ten years later,

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appearing first in a population of gay men who had

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been subjects in a test of new hepatitis vaccine in

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nineteen eighty nine, worked by Alan Cantwell Junior, MD, linking

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AIDS to the hepatitis viral B vaccine experiments was suppressed

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at the nineteen eighty nine AIDS International Conference by officials

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of the World Health Organization. The reason I wanted to

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mention that is because the same people who were involved

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with the COVID pandemic were involved with a polio vaccine

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that was supposedly being tested in Africa which caused an

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aid's outbreak. Then we see it actually move into the

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United States. And as much as this individual, Alan Cantwell Junior, MD,

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was suppressed, so was let me see his name here,

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where Robert Redfield, director of the CDC, was suppressed during

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open talks and task force with Trump. He was basically

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kicked out because he came to Fauci in the beginning

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and said that this did not look like something that

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was a natural transition from animal to human, that he

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believed that based on some of the attributes, that it

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was a lab created virus and it being that gain

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of function, it did gain a function. They had four attributes.

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He says that was attributed to this deadly virus which

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caused twenty million deaths and twenty five billion dollars in costs.

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And those four items, let's see where I put that

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is a spike three spike proteins from HIV and a

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oh gosh, where did and a fear and cleavage site.

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And this is how it attaches to the cells and

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becomes so infectious to humans. So based on all of that,

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and let's go with Adam and Andrew Zeuski. He was

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a right a columnist for Forbes magazine, very high up,

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had always been attributed to great articles, very well prided

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in what it was that he reported on and did

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found himself fired at the hands of COVID because he

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was out speaking out about Fauci. So what and why

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does Fauci have all of this protection and how is

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it that he can get away with all of this

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when he has been involved with five decades of this stuff. Well,

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let's tell you why. On the history of the government

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respect for human life, there is actually Public Law ninety

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five Dash seventy nine PL ninety five Dash seventy nine,

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Title fifty Chapter thirty two, Section fifteen twenty Chemical and

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Biological Warfare Program the use of human subjects will be

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allowed for the testing of chemical and biological agents by

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the US Department of Defense, accounting to Congressional committees with

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respect to experiments and studies followed by the Secretary of

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Defense may conduct test and experience involved experiments involving the

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use of chemical and biological warfare agents on civilian populations

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within the United States. The source again, Public Law ninety

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was found in July thirtieth of nineteen seventy seven. So

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it reports you as you can see Nolan, all the

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different sources that you can cite it from. So basically

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they have this right to do this to us.

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The CIA had been doing those experiments for years illegally.

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Yes, they did find that their CIA was involved. CIA

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was involved, and there were meetings at the CIA office

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that included Fauci and the other individuals that have been

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associated with him through the COVID pandemic.

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That's why Frank Olsen was murdered.

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Exactly knew about it, and he was one of the scientists,

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one of the engineers, scientific engineers that worked for the

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CIA and Defense, and he wasn't really happy when he

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found out what his work was really going towards.

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Exactly do some of them for the good of people, but.

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He don't speak out against the agenda. Yes, it is

464
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:51.359
as much like the district attorney in New York who

465
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:53.680
refused to run for mayor, even though he probably would

466
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:55.440
have done a darned good job, but he was afraid

467
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:58.079
that he'd be put on the firing line and then

468
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:00.680
his life would be at stake because he would speak

469
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:02.839
out against these people who is being told not to

470
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.680
speak out about There.

471
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.359
Was large scale experimentation in this town in France.

472
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:11.039
They basically poisoned the whole town and many people that

473
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:13.759
really sick and some people died. Was that doing the

474
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:17.279
water experiments in the Bay Area too, in San Francisco

475
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:24.720
with clouds of different chemicals being unwittingly dropped on the populace.

476
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:27.680
I think you're going to see all of what you're

477
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:31.720
talking about in that documentary. Thank you, doctor Fauci, because

478
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:34.039
you got to remember he's been involved for fifty years,

479
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:36.839
So fifty years puts him back to nineteen seventy five,

480
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:37.960
nineteen seventy six.

481
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:42.920
Yeah, so that title should be lack of respect, not respect.

482
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:45.480
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

483
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:50.559
Know that respect well, if it's them or their family

484
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:53.960
are other rich people than they respect. But if you're

485
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.599
ranking vile person or someone that's in jail, or even

486
00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:59.359
college students, they yes experimenting on.

487
00:29:59.319 --> 00:29:59.960
People for year.

488
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:06.119
We are their budding joke and their experiment. To all degrees.

489
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.119
It seems like, or at least it feels like when

490
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:10.880
you hear about these types of things, there was so

491
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:14.240
much controversy and then it's considered a conspiracy because doctor

492
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.960
Fauci says if you question science that if you questioned me,

493
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:22.119
then you question science. No, we questioned the deadliness of it.

494
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:25.519
There's a reason why bio warfare has been banned. There's

495
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.960
a reason why. That's one of the reasons the president

496
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:30.079
can overwrite a veto to Congress to go to war.

497
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.960
It is so potentially dangerous. The fact that you're even

498
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:38.359
attempting to research and create these things. One leak it says,

499
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.319
our labs are not prepared to contain these type of

500
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:44.799
antigens and all of these different diseases that they're they're

501
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:50.799
working on and attempting to There was some article written

502
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:55.079
by one of the gentlemen called Diffuse, and it basically

503
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:59.200
one year before the whole COVID pandemic, described creating the

504
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:04.400
pandemic so that they could discover a cure, in essence,

505
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:08.119
being ahead of the game in case a pandemic happens. Well,

506
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:10.720
you're killing people to do that, and it didn't exist

507
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:13.559
before you implemented it. And then to find out there's

508
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:19.759
a landmark deal and a contract with Maderna for a

509
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:25.160
vaccination that existed also years before the pandemic happened. I'm

510
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:27.559
just I'm a little in shock. I'm a little blown away.

511
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:29.960
I didn't know this was something that I would face,

512
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:32.319
or that my livelihood in general could be shut down

513
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:36.279
as it was during COVID. Now that's what brings me

514
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:39.000
to our presentation and what we talk about with the

515
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:42.839
Zodiac and the program that it is devised by. Right,

516
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.960
So we climbed out of tom Voight basically at this

517
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:50.279
point and into Bart Baggett because I was a student

518
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:53.119
of Bart Baggett when Dennis Kaufman contacted me. So I

519
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:54.880
wanted to show you guys some of the things that

520
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:57.880
I pulled down from Bart's site. One of them is.

521
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.640
The analysis of these five samples will be finished soon,

522
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:03.480
so check back. This is one of the Zodiac letters

523
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:05.680
up here in the left hand corner, and I want

524
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.200
you to note that this copyright is nineteen ninety five

525
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:11.839
to nineteen ninety nine, last updated September seventeenth of nineteen

526
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:15.960
ninety nine. So be at approximately the same time that

527
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.880
I'm saying that Tom Vod is doing the episode with

528
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:22.960
John Walsh on the Zodiac, we find that there's inclusiveness

529
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.960
between Bart Baggett. He's aware of who Tom Boyd is,

530
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:28.160
He's worked with Tom Boyd. In fact, we're going to

531
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:31.359
see that he even promotes Tom Voyd and then he

532
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:37.160
comes himself with his own false suspect. Deborah Perez It says, yeah,

533
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.359
says Bart Baggett is an American author and speaker. Baggott

534
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:42.440
is a ten time author who has appeared on over

535
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:46.279
fifteen hundred radio TV shows, including CNN Today Show, Good

536
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:50.799
Morning America, and appeared at over sixteen feature films. Lindsey,

537
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:55.079
I wish you were here speaking right now, because good

538
00:32:55.160 --> 00:33:00.279
Morning to Mare, Oh kay, isn't Good Morning to America

539
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.160
the one that John Walsh said that he wanted to

540
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:05.880
live his his investigation through instead of the FBI.

541
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:13.039
Yes, but he also was on Good America the day

542
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:15.279
out they found oudam.

543
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:18.440
Ted right, and he allowed that show to go on

544
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:23.759
as he was perpetrating a call on Bear America when

545
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:28.160
his son's head had been found. So, in addition to

546
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.680
Bart's success as an author and expert, you might recognize

547
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:34.960
Bart Baggett from as many appearances on national TV commercials,

548
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:38.480
feature films, documentaries, Where's a Guest on the top rated

549
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:41.640
radio and TV shows over the past two decades, including

550
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:45.359
CNN's Larry King Live shown in the image, Glenn Black Show,

551
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:49.559
paul Is Howard Stern, Good Morning America, and The Today Show.

552
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:51.400
So it just goes on and on and on in

553
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:55.799
this affiliation with Hollywood continues to occur. Now, I was

554
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:57.519
told at one point in time that I was in

555
00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:59.839
over my head when I was ready to release my

556
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:03.279
opinion that I needed to have approved through Burt Baggett

557
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:09.480
unknowingly having been given altered letters. And I will state

558
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:12.519
with infatuation, in fact, this is an area I would

559
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:14.840
actually bet on, and I'm not a gambler, is that

560
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.719
he knew exactly the size of these letters, and he

561
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:24.639
provided them to me altered and enlargened both height and width,

562
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:28.360
which to me is a disgusting turn of events for

563
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:30.559
me to find out in the end from Terence Pascal

564
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:32.679
that they were not eight and a half by eleven letters.

565
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:36.559
So a handwriting expert or what's his expertise?

566
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:41.800
He is, well, he proclaims to be a marketing expert.

567
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:44.679
But he found a niche for creating a school to

568
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.880
teach document examiners, and he is the school that I attended,

569
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.320
so I was an apprentice in his school at the

570
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.199
time Dennis Kaufman came to me, So he.

571
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:56.320
Ran the school. But is he actual handwriting expert?

572
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:00.000
Purportedly when he has time and he's not too busy,

573
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:02.719
he does his job because I've come up against cases.

574
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:05.239
In fact, I just heard from another document examiner who

575
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:07.639
was on a case with him, in which case he

576
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.679
provided the very evidence she needed to support and prove

577
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:14.079
her case as an opposing examiner against him, which is

578
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.840
what he did with me. In another case, he attempted

579
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.840
to proclaim that the signature was an authentic signature when

580
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.920
the exemplars that he used to study, one of them

581
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.440
was the actual sample that the person used to cut

582
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:29.840
and paste onto the lease, and his proclamation was, oh,

583
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.159
I was just busy. I must admit it. I must

584
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:35.199
have missed it. That's not a reason to miss something.

585
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.119
And you chose to write an opinion in a case

586
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:40.920
you couldn't even appear in court. So Bart Baggett wasn't

587
00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:44.440
even present, and the client wasn't even allowed to present

588
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:47.280
their opinion from him because he wasn't there's a witness.

589
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:52.159
So all he did tell me, Yeah, all he did

590
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.000
was charge these people money for what a sloppy job,

591
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:57.559
and then he couldn't even be there to perform on

592
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:00.679
their side. And maybe that was selective. Maybe he just

593
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:04.159
in one of my very first cases, I thought that

594
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.360
the signature was authentic. My clients paid for me to

595
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:09.800
go all the way out to South Carolina. I got there,

596
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:13.400
there was an opposing examiner. I was provided with many

597
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:17.440
more instances of this man's signature which concluded my opinion

598
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:20.320
was right. But because I was paid by this client,

599
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:23.639
I had to render my opinion to Bart first, and

600
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:26.039
then Bart had to tell me what to tell the client.

601
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:28.159
And Bart came back and said that it was a forgery,

602
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.519
but he's making more than fifty percent of my income

603
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:33.760
at this point in time, because I'm still an apprentice,

604
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.599
So fifty percent of the money I was paid to

605
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.239
go out to South Carolina went into his pocket and

606
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:45.239
he was wrong. I was right then. I when I

607
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.800
was ready to release my opinion in the Zodiac case

608
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:50.559
with CBS thirteen News, I got a phone call from

609
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:52.519
him telling him I could be kicked out of the school.

610
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.199
I could lose my tuition, which was twelve thousand dollars

611
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:58.960
At the time. I was physically sick to my stomach.

612
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:03.239
Did I just you know, almost two years into an education,

613
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:05.239
that I was about to lose because I wanted to

614
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.199
tell the truth and then ultimately to find out that

615
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:12.440
his suspect was false. From the gate, Deborah Perez was

616
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:16.440
never a legitimate, ridiculous right.

617
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:17.519
It was like a hoax.

618
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:21.119
It was a hoax. One year she's claiming the love

619
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.039
child of JFK and Marilyn Monroe, and the next year

620
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.159
she's the daughter of the Zodiac killer. And she's not

621
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:29.039
even biologically related to the man.

622
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:33.039
She's a publicity him. So move and girls, baggett. That's

623
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:33.639
what I want to.

624
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:41.000
Know, hollyweared interesting. I mean, clearly hollyweard, why else did

625
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:43.599
he move from Texas to California ten months after I

626
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:47.119
became an apprentice after saying I have the entire California

627
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:51.559
area to myself. Ten months later he moves to Los Angeles.

628
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:54.400
And it's all to perpetuate this false suspect on Deba

629
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.119
Perez and this this documentary which I successfully blew up.

630
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:00.320
I guess because it never happened. It never heurd and

631
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.920
everybody debunked Dubber Perez from day one.

632
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:07.440
Oh yeah, yeah, the news and in the chronicle. And

633
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:11.199
she was for a minute, he was.

634
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:15.000
All across the world. Everybody got together. She was the

635
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:18.599
daughter of the Zodiac. And five seconds of the FBI

636
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:23.360
recanting stating that her dad, her adopted father, was not

637
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:26.400
the Zodiac. Five seconds only made it here locally. It

638
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:28.599
probably didn't even make it across the United States.

639
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:34.000
Well, it's funny to me that they all, these these

640
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:37.280
these people all come from Texas, so many of them,

641
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:41.039
and then we see Jack back and forth to Texas.

642
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:44.239
All the time, all the time. It's not a coincidence,

643
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:44.639
you know.

644
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.880
And there's a lot of key figures in other cases

645
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:50.199
that I have found that have lots of times to

646
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:54.400
Texas as well, in particularly the Charlie Kirk case.

647
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:57.960
So it's just wild. Let me see what he says,

648
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.239
because he does have a couple of things to say

649
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.000
about the Zodiac writing. So he's got a couple letters

650
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:05.840
up here, the Button letter, the Riverside City College Desk

651
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:09.280
poem in the Zodiac debut letter Bart Baggett puts on

652
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:12.840
his website. Note these graphics were purchased from the most

653
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:17.519
complete Zodiac site available, and you can also purchase most

654
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:20.360
of the high resolution graphics. They're not a high resolution

655
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:26.039
they're altered graphics. People and see other letters not published

656
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:29.119
here at the Zodiac Killer dot com website. So here's

657
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:32.400
the inclusion. If everybody thinks it's just a mere coincidence

658
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:35.280
that Bart tried to keep me from rendering my opinion

659
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:38.679
on Jack's handwriting how to fake suspect, just as tom

660
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:41.920
Boy runs on all his sites and he's surrounding the

661
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:45.519
same people such as America's Most Wanted John Walsh tomboy

662
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.119
and then promoting Tomboy for people to go purchase this

663
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.199
stuff from him, It says. The person who runs this

664
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.079
site takes donations for the full graphics and has been

665
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:59.199
very helpful during this investigation and TV show production. Read

666
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:03.440
the Heinz Report, which points circumstantial evidence that Lawrence Kane.

667
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:08.039
So again, now he's naming not Deborah Perez, but he's

668
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:13.320
naming Lawrence Kane. So who are the suspects? Rick Marshall,

669
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:17.840
Arthur Lee, Allen, Andy Walker, Lawrence Kin, Michael O'Hare, Bruce Davis,

670
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.719
Ted Gazinski, others. This looks like a how to guide

671
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:25.880
to dissuade the public from figuring out who they should

672
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:29.320
even be looking at when he repeatedly puts forth people

673
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:34.639
who have been cleared and assisting in the confusion at

674
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.760
the bottom right right, Yes, yeah, yeah, I did throw

675
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.559
him up. I did throw him up, as he looked

676
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:46.760
nothing like the Zodiac. But I'm I'm wondering if this

677
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:49.480
is the go to manual for the twenty on twenty

678
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.159
DNA test that was done where they ruled out eight suspects,

679
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.480
which included most of the people on this list. So

680
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:57.800
I'm not sure if this particular website was before or

681
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:00.840
after the actual DNA test, but it probably was around

682
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:03.519
the same timeframe. He goes on to say, in my

683
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:06.920
opinion that Zodiac writings don't match checks written by Arthur

684
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.719
Lee Allen and the Document Examiner in the nineteen seventies

685
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:13.760
agree see the findings even as poorly written custody writing

686
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:17.800
doesn't match. What about Lawrence Keynes writing from police files

687
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:23.320
under questioning fake writing see it here. So again I'm

688
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:27.039
just at a loss. Some of the last items that

689
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:30.360
I actually had from Tom Voyd's site, where these pictures

690
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:32.239
that he's taken of what they want to call the

691
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.880
Zodiac Cabin. So it says located in an isolated spot

692
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:38.039
in the hills over Lake Herman Road in Valeo. The

693
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:41.199
Zodiac Shack has been rumored for years by locals to

694
00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:44.000
be the former hideout of the Zodiac Killer. The property

695
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:46.280
has been abandoned for decades, but I found it thanks

696
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:49.880
to directions from some residents of nearby Benetia. These photos

697
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.800
were taken on the morning of December twentieth, nineteen ninety eight.

698
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:56.199
Click pictures for larger images. It goes on to make

699
00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:58.719
comments like the shack is just past the ranch of

700
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:02.480
the late Stella Borde who discovered Zodiac's Lake Herman Roade

701
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:06.280
victims on December twentieth of nineteen sixty eight. The next

702
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:08.639
one I found myself out of cell phone range. If

703
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:11.639
Zodiac really did use this area to hide from police,

704
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:15.800
he picked a good spot. Welcome to the World's Scariest Hallway.

705
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:19.880
So he's already promoting this even though there's no known

706
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.800
evidence to support that the Zodiac was here. So he's

707
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:25.239
just creating a little bit more of a mystery and

708
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:29.440
nonsense and no real way. I mean, if the Zodiac,

709
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:34.280
I contend is living on a makeshift bus, school bus,

710
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:36.360
which is why he talks about a school bus in

711
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:38.880
his letters and then later says, if you thought it

712
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:40.400
was going to blow up a bunch of children, then

713
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:44.159
you're basically just stupid and morons is a key indicator

714
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:46.440
that he is the bomb on the bus. He has

715
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:49.280
the information, he knows what's going on, and he can

716
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:53.199
bring people down with that information. So I'm not going

717
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:54.880
to read any more of these, but you can go

718
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:58.280
on through. He's even done America's Most Wanted Target Zodiac.

719
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:01.559
In October nineteen ninety eight, America's Most Wanted hired me

720
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:03.639
to act as a consultant in their first feature on

721
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:05.760
the Zodiac case, as well as to write the cover

722
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:09.599
story for their magazine, Man Hunter. The show aired December

723
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:12.320
nineteen ninety eight and was their highest rated of the year.

724
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:16.800
Manhunter rapidly sold out. Surprised that the public's enduring interest

725
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:20.400
in the case, amw quickly developed another television feature using

726
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:24.400
the FBI's John Douglas to profile Zodiac. So they saw

727
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:26.960
a way to make money, so they repeated it.

728
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:31.480
Yep, well they used that rhetoric, the same rhetoric too,

729
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:37.800
Man Hunter, The hunters will become the hunted, like it's

730
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:42.679
all and if John Walsh had the show on the.

731
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:47.639
Hunt, It's like, what is this? You know, it's really

732
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:51.920
a pattern. You clearly couldn't even investigate and hunt your

733
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:57.679
own son's killer exactly. I mean, what makes you the

734
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:04.360
leading expert or knowledgeable individual to lead any investigation when

735
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.800
you've done everything wrong in the investigation of your son's

736
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:10.840
own murder, not having the FBI, in, not wanting the

737
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:15.199
FBI or law enforcement to dig into the skeletons, dropping

738
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:18.239
a lawsuit against Sears because you don't want to get

739
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:21.480
up there and be grilled in deposition about your skeletons.

740
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:27.519
Was there any ever any allegation or investigation as child

741
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.400
big lect in regard to his son's murder.

742
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:36.320
Sort of it was sort of with the with the

743
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:40.920
boy that was living with them, the younger boy, oh god,

744
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:44.800
just lost his name that Revee was having an affair with.

745
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.079
He was like twenty twenty one, and that was supposed

746
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:52.960
to be the godfather of Adam and he would take

747
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:55.480
in places and help pick him up and stuff like that.

748
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.760
But also I think there was evidence of abuse based

749
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:06.239
on the depositions and in whenever they did the interviews

750
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:08.679
of James James, is that James.

751
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:15.719
Campbell his name and drugs right, Yes, he was the

752
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:17.880
one that had told his attorney about it.

753
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:20.400
And then that's where they went after, you know, and

754
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:22.840
told Sears that this Sears attorney and was like, oh, well,

755
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:24.719
we're you know, we're going to get them for this.

756
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:28.119
And then they agreed just to just to like nazo

757
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:32.159
Sears because they didn't want their you know, cocaine history

758
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:37.400
and abuse of drugs being uh, you know, aired out,

759
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:42.239
like you said, their laundry. So then so I gathered

760
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:46.599
that there's child abuse based on James's statement of how

761
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:50.239
like for instance, I think sometimes that weeker in the

762
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:56.039
week before, he had took Adam to see a movie

763
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:59.960
and in the the movie was like ten o'clock at

764
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:03.239
night is when it started. And then so who knows

765
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:05.119
when it got over it And then after they got

766
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:08.719
it got over, James went to some place and grabbed

767
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:12.519
a beer, a can of beer, supposedly one can, and

768
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:15.760
then took Adam home. So it's like, why are you

769
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:19.920
taking a six year old child home that late? Then

770
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.079
you're going to somewhere to get to get a beer,

771
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:26.599
like I mean to me, that's some type of child

772
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:31.239
abuse if you're letting, you know, this non biological person

773
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:34.960
carry your child, your six year old child out late

774
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:38.920
at night like that, and like succepting them to things

775
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:40.559
that they shouldn't be susceptible to.

776
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:43.719
I want to know what kids movie plays at ten

777
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:47.000
o'clock at night, right, I.

778
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:49.119
Don't even know if it mentioned the movie the name

779
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:50.559
of it, I'd have to go back and see what

780
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.440
the in the in the reports that say.

781
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:58.880
But yeah, I think that's actually when it happened, possibly

782
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:02.400
whenever I think you know they had James do it

783
00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:05.719
right insane?

784
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.440
Well, I did find one blank entry for a mailed

785
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:12.079
letter on April thirtieth of sixty seven, and the Sherry

786
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:16.840
Joe Bates case on Tomvoit's website postmark Riverside, California, sent

787
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:19.960
to the Riverside Press Enterprise. I am not sure if

788
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:22.000
this is one we have already seen, because of course,

789
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:25.480
once again it has been torn down, but it would

790
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:30.559
be interesting to note which one this is. Uh Oh,

791
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:32.679
I thought I was done with Tom Voyd, but my gosh,

792
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:34.599
and we've got a little bit, just a little bit

793
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:38.159
more information, so on one nineteen of one he posts.

794
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:40.599
In the last few years, I've collected many police reports

795
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:43.280
and other Zodiac related items that I haven't posted at

796
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.320
this site, although I have received many requests to do so.

797
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:49.039
In most cases, the sheer size of the documents, as

798
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:55.159
well as privacy issues privacy issues have made posting them unrealistic.

799
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:57.760
In other cases, such as with video or audio, the

800
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:00.559
cost has been too high. As a solution, I decided

801
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:03.760
to make some of these items available to order, including

802
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.599
Don Cheney interview. Oh Don Cheney, don't get me involved.

803
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:11.079
It turns out Don Cheney is was he one of

804
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:17.880
the suspects in the You trying to remember who he

805
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:20.400
is in the in the because I think I get

806
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:23.119
a mixed with the other political guy, Cheney that was

807
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:28.079
involved with the COVID stuff. Oh yeah you did, Yeah,

808
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:33.480
it says Darlene Farren. Dick Cheney, Yes, he's involved COVID

809
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:36.719
stuff somehow, or at least some some attribute of getting

810
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:42.599
the bio warfare program or ban cut off so that

811
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:47.960
they could continue with that gain of function research Darlene Farren,

812
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:51.480
Mike Majeu Valleo Police Department report, Mike paul Stein, San

813
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:55.800
Francisco Police Department report, Kathleen John's police reports. I want

814
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.840
to see the Kathleen John's police reports. Those are interesting.

815
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:03.159
Suspector courts including Arthur Lee, Allen, Lawrence Kane, Rick Marshall,

816
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:06.960
and Andy Walker. Howard Stern show from December nineteen ninety eight,

817
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.039
featuring this site. For a complete list of items, email

818
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:15.480
mewar Wow, I'd like to. I'd like to. I would

819
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:18.800
like to see that one. I tell you, Howard Stern,

820
00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:24.320
Jesse Ventura. What's the other guy that does the He

821
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:27.920
acts like he's on our side, but I don't. I

822
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:31.079
don't believe he is. I can't think of his name now. Anyways,

823
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:31.920
we are.

824
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:34.159
Not Larry King. Larry King was one of them.

825
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:35.960
No, no, no, no, this is one of these guys that do

826
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:41.599
a podcast. But yes, he's really yeah, he's really not

827
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:42.599
on our side. I don't think.

828
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:45.920
Yeah, I think in some instances, yeah, but not that

829
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:46.960
it gives us just.

830
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:49.679
Enough to help us believe even though he probably knows

831
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:51.920
more and he is not telling us that more. But

832
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:54.280
there's somebody who's dictating what it is that he shares.

833
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:57.880
Oh yeah, yeah, sure. So that's it, you guys were

834
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:00.559
at the end of our segment. This has been amo awesome.

835
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.440
I think next week we will be past the Tom

836
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:04.880
Void stuff at a minimum and back on into the

837
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.400
actual letters written to Tom voit. So everybody have a

838
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.079
wonderful weekend and we will see you next Friday. Thank

839
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:13.079
you guys pace m BI