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Good morning, true seekers and true crime junkies.
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Welcome back to another episode of Hit the Road, Jack,
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Finding the Zodiac. After a two-week break, we are back
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today to share some interesting information.
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Some laundry, some research. We're going to climb into.
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The evidence summary that really supports that Jack was one
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of the world's most prolific serial killers that we know.
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I'd like to welcome to the show today, Nolan Del Campo.
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Good morning, everybody. Good morning.
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Good morning.
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Yeah, I'm a little astonished I didn't pay attention, taking
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this last two-week break, that last Friday was 9-11.
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And that actually came.
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On the cusp of Lindsay sending me a link to
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a video, which is news footage from that time frame,
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which I think I vaguely remember some of the stuff
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it's going to talk about, but nobody really focused on
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it for whatever reason.
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But I thought it was some interesting stuff in.
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Light of Iran and Israel and everything that is currently
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going on, the... coincidence of the attacks of 9-11 in
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the Trade Center and the anthrax mailings all perpetuating Bush
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to be able to go to war against Iran.
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All of the things that kind of wrap itself up
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around it.
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So we're going to play this video and then we're
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going to quickly get on to the rest of the
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information that I have to share with everybody.
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Let's go ahead and play that now.
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Were in fact Israelis, Jewish Israelis, who were caught filming
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the event. And it was a suspicious behavior that caused
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one of the people in the area to call the
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police and say, I've got these people that are sitting
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here filming the event, 9-11, as it's happening, and they're
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high-fiving each other and dancing around and celebrating.
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You know, they didn't look shocked to me.
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You know, they didn't look shocked.
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I thought it was very strange. The witness called police,
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who stopped the van hours later and arrested five men.
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All five, it turns out, were Israeli. They were turned
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over to the FBI. Sources tell ABC News, during a
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check of national security databases, some of the men were
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listed as having had connections with Israeli intelligence. At the FBI,
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that set off alarm bells.
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The FBI wasn't satisfied. Channel 4 has learned from intelligence
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sources that some of the men's names were already known
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to American counterintelligence. Paul Katzberg admitted serving in an Israeli
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army anti-terrorist unit. He refused to take a lie detector
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test for 10 weeks.
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I was serving in a special unit and it's not
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a big secret or something like that.
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But there are things.
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That I have to keep to myself.
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As loyal to my country.
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The FBI needed the answers to three important questions.
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Who were these men?
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What brought them to that parking lot on the morning
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of September 11th? And did they have any advanced knowledge
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of what was going to happen that day?
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This has been acknowledged on Israeli television that these Israeli
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agents had foreknowledge. They admitted on Israeli television that they
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were forewarned and were told to go and film the event.
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We were taken for another round of questioning, this time
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related to our allegedly being members of Mossad. The fact
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of the matter is we are coming from a country
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that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event.
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Our purpose was to document the event.
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Investigators suspect that the Israelis may have gathered intelligence about
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the attacks in advance and not shared it. A highly
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placed investigator said there are, quote, tie-ins. But when asked
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for details, he flatly refused to describe them, saying, quote,
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evidence linking these Israelis to 9-1-1 is classified. I cannot
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tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information.
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Asked this week about another sprawling investigation and the detention
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of 60 Israelis since September 11th, the Bush administration treated
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the questions like hot potatoes.
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I would just refer you to the Department of Justice
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with it. I'm not familiar with the report.
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I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained. With
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respect to why they are being detained and.
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The other aspects of your question, whether it's because they
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are in intelligence services or what they were doing, I
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will defer to the Department of Justice and the FBI
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to answer that.
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Beyond the 60 apprehended or detained and many deported since
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September 11th, another group of 140 Israeli individuals have been
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arrested and detained in this year in what government documents
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describe as, quote, an organized intelligence gathering operation designed to, quote,
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penetrate government facilities. Most of those individuals said they had
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served in the Israeli military, which is compulsory there, but
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they also had, most of them, intelligence expertise and either
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worked for Amdocs or other companies in Israel that specialize
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in wiretapping.
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Earlier this week.
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The Israeli embassy here in Washington denied any spying against
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or in the United States.
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Carl, what about this question of advanced knowledge of what
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was going to happen on 9-11? How clear are investigators
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that some Israeli agents may have known something?
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Well, it's very explosive information, obviously, and there's a great
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deal of evidence that they say they have collected.
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None of it necessarily conclusive. It's more when they put.
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It all together.
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A bigger question, they say, is how could they not
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have known?
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Almost a direct quote. So this is not disputable.
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They were amongst the other Israelis who were arrested on 9-11,
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some of whom were caught in vans with.
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Explosives in the vans.
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George Washington Bridge.
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Indeed, George Washington Bridge. And there were more than one
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set of Israelis that were actually caught with explosives in
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their vehicles.
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And nationally, they're looking for a white Chevy van with
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New Jersey plates, and on the back bumper, it says
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something to the effect of urban moving system.
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We had received an all-points bulletin, and I just happened
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to see the van, and, you know, hollered over to
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my lieutenant, you know, I think that could be the van,
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we checked it out, and... It was. You know, we
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were all on edge, obviously, so I really wasn't looking
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to make friends with these people, and neither were the
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officers that I were with. Once we started talking to them,
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you know, they were pretty much like, hey, you know,
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we're not against you, we're with you.
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They were indeed from the Middle East, but more precisely
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from Israel. Two of them were formally identified as Mossad agents.
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The five officially worked for a moving company called Urban
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Moving Systems, whose owner, a certain Dominique Otto Suter, fled
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to Tel Aviv on September 14th and was never investigated.
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Not long after the arrests, the offices of Urban Moving
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were simply abandoned.
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Almost everything was left behind.
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Tuval Aviv is a counter-terrorism advisor to the U.S. Congress,
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but was once a spy for Israel's secret service Mossad.
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He says Urban Moving was a front company for Israeli intelligence,
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and that some of its workers were spying illegally in
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the U.S.
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Israel has engaged in intelligence gathering in friendly countries. Some
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of it is done with permission. And some of it
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probably has been done without permission in areas that is
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vital to Israeli interest.
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There was a bolo, which is to be on the
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lookout for a particular van with supposed to be a
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few occupants in there. And the bolo basically stated that
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this van may be on its way to destroy the
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George Washington Bridge or something like that, if I remember correctly,
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and blow up the bridge.
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The FBI has now put out a nationwide APB, all
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points bulletin, for a white Chevy van with New Jersey registration.
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Written on the back is urban moving systems.
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Two or three men arrested on the New Jersey Parkway.
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Debra, can you hear me now?
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Yes, I can.
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That is the information that I am getting from two sources,
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that there was a van either on the New Jersey
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Turnpike or the Garden State Parkway, and that it was
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near the George Washington Bridge. There were two or three
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men who were in the van. The van was pulled over.
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It is not clear why the van.
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Was pulled over, but when it was, law enforcers found
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tons of explosives inside.
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Of the van.
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But some very intelligent and aggressive cops also stopped Another
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terrorist attack from happening on the George Washington Bridge. CBS2
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has learned exclusively that two men are in custody tonight
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after being arrested at the George Washington Bridge with an
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entire truckload of explosives. Now I'm told that those explosives
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could have been enough to blow up the entire span
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and all the cars and the people that were on it.
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And word laid tonight that two suspects are in FBI
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custody after a truckload of explosives was discovered... around the
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George Washington Bridge. That bridge links New York to New
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Jersey over the Hudson River. Whether the discovery of those
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explosives had anything to do with other events today is unclear,
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but the FBI has two suspects in hand, said the
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truck load of explosives, enough explosives were in the truck
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to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge.
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I was watching the towers, and though I wasn't the closest,
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I saw them crumble to.
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The earth like they were full of explosives, and they
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thought nobody.
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Noticed the news reports that they did.
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Wow. Was that not interesting?
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Yeah, I never heard that.
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I'm amazed that that's the first I've heard about that.
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And that was many compilations of news companies.
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So CNN, ABC.
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I i vaguely remember them talking about the white van.
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And the um and.
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What really throws me though is that the anthrax letters
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that we looked at were meant to it um were
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meant to assume that it was Iran that had caused
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these events, that was attacking us, right? Because this is
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what Bush is trying to do, is go to war
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with Iran. And these two items, as we've discussed, were
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reasons for the president to override a veto from Congress,
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which is an act of international terrorism, the twin trade towers.
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And then the biowarfarism, which was the anthrax letters that
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was mailed seven days later. Um, so when I go
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back to saying, once again, here we are, it looks
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to me like the Spanish.
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American war, right? We are perpetrating.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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We're perpetrating the crime and, and making it look like
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somebody else has done it to us.
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Say that again.
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Sorry.
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Well, that was Lindsay. Hi. Good morning, Lindsay. Good morning.
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Good morning.
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I just played the video clip from the 9-11 news
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feeds in regards to the Israelis that were involved.
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And again, let's talk about how big Israelis. What's that?
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Was it the dancing Israelis?
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I've seen that in the news media this past week,
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and I was just like, yep, there it is.
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Really?
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So they played it currently.
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If they had foreknowledge, who else had foreknowledge?
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Exactly.
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And who was behind it? And it's broader than just Iran.
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It's like the war on terror and the war against
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basically Arabs and Arab countries.
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Well, it's for a world agenda, not only the United States.
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Yeah, and that's what we have been discussing with the
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Zodiac and all of these other items.
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In fact, another thing that you sent off to me.
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Lindsay, which we'll do a deep dive on it later,
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but I did want to kind of touch on it,
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is that there has been a conviction obtained in Laura
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Miller's death, a James Elmore, I believe his name was,
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who purportedly created the hot shot that killed her. And
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it was cocaine, which I found interesting because Dennis, on
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a return trip from Texas and visiting with Tim Miller,
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intimated to me that Tim had stated that he was
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involved in this type of stuff when his daughter died.
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And he felt bad that he was in the middle