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0:52 Welcome back, True Crime Junkies and truth seekers. We are back for another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac. I'd like to welcome Nolan to the show today. Good morning, everybody, Good morning. Are we celebrating another team that's playing today? I see you're in a jersey. Oh yeah, it's the draft NFL Draft that started yesterday. It goes through Saturday. What's your team? The Rams? Okay, though they took a quarterback when they didn't really need their their existing quarterbacks the MVP, but it's for the future.

1:33 I can understand. I'm just going to say, wouldn't you want the second best? Of course in case the first gets hurt? Right, And the thing is that their backup Garoppolo retired and then their third guy got is a head case. So they need it, and this is your team head cases. Well, it has definitely been an interesting week with our weather. I mean, honestly speaking, I didn't anticipate hail and thunderstorms and all the things, but California said, hold my beer. Yeah it rained and hailed like hell here it was crazy.

2:16 Yeah, I'm outside, did get hurt. I've had enough with water, that's for sure. Good morning, Lindsay sounds like, yeah, we can hear you. Okay, we're doing well, thank you about yourself. Yeah, well, y'all don don't get rain often? Huh oh we do. What's yeah, we get all the seasons. We're in California. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know, but I'm saying I feel like it's always drive there. You know what, when we had a weather pattern that brought in El Nino, I think a couple decades ago, we stopped getting our rain in the cycle that we were supposed to get it in. So I hear a lot these days from people who aren't used to it, or maybe they're like new generations and oh, it shouldn't be raining in April.

3:10 It doesn't rain in April. I'm like, oh my gosh, you guys, I grew up with April showers, bring May flowers. That's what spring was about. Mm hmmm, it's great. I don't have to water for another week exactly, all. Right, any rain in a few weeks, so wow, we need we need that rain. Obama, Bama, Okay, IAmA. And that like that spread that doesn't get all the water like that, that area in between, and that's why people are on the East coast and the West coast because of the lush. Well, I think it's like we're in the middle. So it's like are kind of in the middle. Like I feel like we get a lot of like too much rain, and then we and then we can go for a long while without it, you know what I'm saying.

3:59 So, like we were just. Talking about the draft, the NFL Draft, and the Rams first pick was the quarterback from Alamo. Really Ty Simpson. Wow, I like, but he made me mad a lot of times as well. Yeah, he had a great first half of the year. Second half wasn't so great. I know. Yeah, I don't know what happened. He's good. I think the Rams took him too early though. A little early for him. Yeah, Yeah, he projected late first round and he went thirteenth overall, which is mill of the first round. But anyway, let's get on with the show. Let's get on with this show. You know, I've been watching some interesting things, and I was telling one backstage about a couple of things that I watched this week. One of them was A Million Ways to Die in the West Wish charleist there and she's one of my favorite I love that show. Yeah, And at the end of it, they're joking after he kills Liam Neeson and she says it's okay, I'm half Jewish and he's like, what really, and she's like, no, not really, and they boss up laughing and she looks at him and she goes, and you're not really Arabic, are you?

5:09 And he's like, no, not really. I was just like, what are they? What they got going on right now in the show? And then I watched the WWE or the special on Hulk Hogan, which is totally out of my realm because I never liked wrestling ever, like, at least not the fake stuff. Our family's a big WWE family. So as they're saying that he's coming to light as the American hero and forming the brand Hulk Hogan, they're flashing what's going on in politics during this time and the patriotism that's happening around the world, because they're they're talking the news stories are talking about the forty some hostages that Iran has just before Reagan.

5:52 Comes into presidency. And so if they're to our generation today loves and lives. Iran as though they're bad people because they've got these forty forty hostages, when the reality is is Reagan's administration paid them to keep those forty hostages, not negotiate with the president at the time, making him look bad in the eyes of the public, and helping Reagan get. Elected into office. I was like, what a sham. And they gave them missiles. Of course, I mean in the book. Affair, and we were dealing cocaine, giving missiles to to uh, to the Iranians, our enemies.

6:38 You know that the people in. Our holding those of our enemies. I mean, yeah, making bad bird deals so that Reagan would get elected over Carter, and Carter looked bad by not freeing the hostages. In the meantime fighting the Sandinistas with cocaine, money and Bush. That yeah. The by Bob Loodward is the best book on that subject. And then you you have Bush, who is part of the Iran contra affairs, who pardons the last person who's indicted that could actually get him indicted. So yeah, cover up, cover up, cover up. Yeah, well, under U Jerald Ford, before Carter Bush was the head of the CIA, he was vice president exactly for eight years.

7:26 Craziness. So back to Bush because that's where we left off last week. But of course we're on Papa Bush right now. We left off here. We've got a couple more slides left of this story by the Guardian that I was reading. Off last week. It says Loftus and said Prescott Busch must have been aware of what was happening in Germany at the time. Of course they did may time. My take on him was that he was not was a not terribly successful in law who did what Herbert Walker told him to. Walker and Harriman were the two evil geniuses. They didn't care about the Nazis anymore more than they cared about their investments with the Bolsheviks. What is also an issue is how much money Bush made from his involvement. His supporter suggests that he had one token share. Luftist disputes this, citing sources in the banking and intelligence communities, and suggesting that the Bush family, through George, Herbert Walker and Prescott, got one point five million out of the involvement. There is, however, no paper trail to this sum. The third person going into print on the subject is John Buchanan fifty four, a Miami based magazine journalist who started examining the files while working on a screenplay.

8:35 Last year. Buchanan published his findings in the venerable but small circulation New Hampshire Gazette under the headline documents in National Archives proved George Bush's grandfather traded with the Nazis even after Pearl Harbor. He expands on it right. He expands on this in his book to be published next month, Fixing America, Breaking the stranglehold of corporate rule, big media and the religious right. Is this not just reliving things? I mean literally at this point? Yeah? Yeah. In the In the article, Buchanan, who was who has worked mainly in the trade and music press with a spell as a muck racking reporter in Miami, claimed that the essential facts have appeared on the internet and relatively obscure books, but were dismissed by the media and Bush family as undocument Undocumented diatribes u Canon suffers from hypermania, a form of manic depression, and when he found himself rebuffed in his initial efforts to interest the media, he responded with a series of threats against the journalists and media outlets that had spurned him. The threats contained in emails suggested that he would expose the journalists as traders to the truth. I don't know if he actually ever did it, but that probably is the bottom line. Unsurprisingly, he soon had difficulty getting his calls. Most seriously, he faced aggravated stocking charges in Miami in connection with the man with whom he had fallen out over the best

10:07 way to publicize his findings. The charges were dropped last month. Biography. Buchanan said he regretted his behavior had damaged his credibility, but his main aim was to secure publicity for the story. Both Loftus and Schweitzer said Buchanan has come up with previously undisclosed documentation. The Busch family have largely responded with no comment to any reference to Prescott Busch Brown brothers. Harriman also declined to comment. The Bush family recently approved a flattering biography of Prescott Busch entitled Duty, Honor, Country by Mickey Hurskowitz. That doesn't shock me. Publishers Rutledge He'll Press promised the book would deal honestly with Prescott Busch's alleged business relationships with Nazi industrialists and other accusations. In fact, the allegations are dealt with in less than two pages.

11:00 The book refers to the Herald Tribune story by saying that a person of less established ethics would have panicked Bush and his partners at Brown Brothers. Harriman informed the government regulators that the account opened in the late nineteen thirties was an unpaid courtesy for a client. Prescott Busch acteds, Yeah, quickly and openly on behalf of the firms served well by a reputation that had never been compromised. It has people just forget that it was compromised. He made available, Yeah, he made available all records and all documents viewed. Six decades later, in the era of serial corporate scandals and shattered careers, just what they're doing with Epstein right in the middle of political strife. They're distracting us just as you said Nolan, with Epstein stuff, and they don't know what's worse, you know, to dissuade us with what's going on in Iran by giving us false stories or then coming back after they've been beaten and look really really sad in America's eyes and pump out more Epstein stuff.

12:09 It's all bad. It's all bad. Viewed six days later, in the era of serial corporate scandals and shattered careers, he received what can be viewed as the ultimate clean bill. So disgusting, Yeah, whitshed, whitewashed. The Prescott Busch story has been condemned by both conservatives and some liberals. Is having nothing to do with the current president. That's where that has no worry. Yeah, well, but they have to shed right good light on the very people they want to continue to maintain rule and office over us. It has also been suggested that Prescott Bush had little to do with Averil Harriman, and that the two men opposed each other politically. We find out doesn't matter, right, we got Trump as a Republican president into was a Democrat.

13:03 What's that We're both capitalists and both capitalists. Right, a whole lot in common, and it doesn't matter what side you're on, as we have found out, because Trump being a Republican president was originally democrat. Trump finished my statement, Trump being a Republican president was a Democrat who supported the Clintons. So why does it matter if they opposed each other politically? The whole overall goal to rule and control and to usurp any amount of available living that we can make for ourselves is an agenda of all of them.

13:47 Let's see. However, documents from the Hareman papers including Yeah for sure make money, no usurp bars. There's a difference, however, documents from the Harry However, Documents from the Harreman papers include a flattering wartime profile of Harriman in the New York Journal American, and next to it in the files is a letter to the financial editor of that paper from Prescott Bush, congratulating the paper for running the profile. He added that Harriman's performance and his whole attitude has been a source of inspiration and pride to his partners and his friends. So this is what Bush says about Harriman, who he supposedly opposes, becomes of us. Oh you're gonna love this. Where's Lindsay lindsay you better be here.

14:41 Uh. The Anti Defamation Okay, you're gonna love this. The Anti Defamation League in the US is supportive of Prescott Bush. What yeah, what, of course they are and the Bush family. In a statement last year, they said that rumors about the Nazi ties of the late Prescott Busch have circulated widely through the Internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated. Prescott Busch was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer. Okay, uh, yeah, yeah. They just made money off of them, and Auschowitz was was our camp, right, let's see. However, one of the country's oldest Jewish publications, The Jewish Jewish Advocate, has aired the controversy in detail, more than sixty years after Prescott Busch came briefly under scrutiny at the time of a far away war. His grandson is facing a different kind of scrutiny, but one underpinned by the same perception that for some people, war can be a profitable business for some people. Yeah, yeah, definitely for some So I thought, you know, I'm going to take a look at some of this stuff and see where it lies. I just wanted to kind of run a search and you know, get some information based on our history that I don't know. And you're usually pretty good for that, Nolan and Lindsay as well. You guys definitely have me on that one. So I ran

16:12 some things just to kind of see where it was at. One of those things I've been watching is the World War One and World War II documentaries to kind of see what our involvement was, where we were at, and what was going on at the time. I was informed that at one point Rothschilds had done the Balfour Declaration, and so I wanted to research a little bit of that, and lo and behold, the Balfour Declaration occurred in nineteen seventeen, right there on the cost of World War One, sending all of the Jewish immigrants, and I say immigrants because they their parents had at one point I'm assuming migrated if they if they were on these lands three years ago and decided to move where populations were and cities were forming and things were happening, then these people are now citizens of Germany. So when the rock Childs gave them a free pass and ship them all off back to Palestine, because it's their wishes to be on their mother land.

17:18 I thought, why why would Rothschild do this? And who's Rothschild? So I looked up Rothschild and Rothschild family is a wealthy Ashkenazi Jewish noble banking family originally from Frankfurt, Germany. So they're basically paid by one of their own to go to another place. Does that make I mean, I don't know, it doesn't anything exactly. So it no longer sounds like they were kicked out of Eastern Europe rather than they were shuttled carefully by a very wealthy family called the Rothschild. It says the family, the families documented history.

18:07 What's that? That's the seeds of the state of Israel. Because they were taking over people's lands. They called it absent landowners. They would give their properties of absent landowners to the Jewish people. Then slowly but surely they began kicking out all the people of Palestine and the Arabs and take usurping even more and then committing genocide and fighting. And I just don't understand. And the one thing that I'm following on the World War One and World War two stuff is that it's some greedy ruler who wants more.

18:48 I want this land, I want that land, I want I want to control this, I want to control that. And out of the. World War one stuff that I've come to the conclusion of so far is the Nuremberg trials. So now I haven't. Understandab that's World War twoman. Sorry, yes that is. And like I said, I'm probably cross connecting some of my information between one and two. But the Nuremberg Trial says that you're not allowed to attack your neighbors. So what that f is Israel doing right now? Oh? Yeah again, it's too. Yeah, yes, so you're violating the very laws on the books. How can we expect our politicians here, Like that eighty year old man's paperwork that I was reading when he said, it's a nineteen seventy eight law for transparency. We shouldn't have to keep discussing it. We shouldn't have to keep telling people about it.

19:40 It exists. They're supposed to follow it. So how can we expect our politicians to follow the law when we've got countries doing just the opposite. All right, So Jewish immigration. Has not attack Israel is attacking Lebanon under the guise that they're going after his bolla. Yeah, but there's always a guys, there's always a guy. And the Lebanese citizens and you know, non military people are suffering due to acts of Israel that were not brought about by their own government. You know, it's a terrible situation in Levett. All. Well, I'm part of the Nuremberg is that you're you're not allowed to attack due to religion.

20:26 It's one of it's one. Of the caveats. Let these people enjoy the religion. However they want to enjoy the religion. My gosh. So a little bit more on that was Jewish immigration from Eastern Europe the historical contacts. The movement of Jews out of. Eastern Europe, particularly particularly during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, was primarily driven by persecution and the search for better opportunities. This immigration was significantly influenced by various factors. Violent riot. Violent riots against Jews, particularly in the eighteen eighties, prompted many to flee economic hardship. Many Jews sought better economic prospects, especially in the United States. Keyworried, you guys, especially in the United States, political instability, the rise of anti Semitism and oppressive regimes made life increasingly difficult for Jewish communities. Now in the World War One rhetoric, we saw that they were supposedly persecuting an antisemitic the Jews for being money snatching, grabbing individuals who wanted to see these small businessmen fail because they want to control, and that primarily the Democratic political Party in that time frame were also Jewish people, rich bankers, and people who had money.

21:44 So this anti Semitism probably came from the people who were being kept at such a low poverty level that they could barely survive heavily taxed, overruled, micromanaged, you know. So, yeah, this was the perception. And now we're here, what a hundred and some years later, and some of the same things can still be said with this whole Epstein saga. The individuals who you know, elicited or pushed him into our lives to collect nefarious information on our political and government and CEOs and industries so that they could then turn around a blackmail list right back into these situations, which is kind of disgusting to me.

22:25 And it goes all the way back to the Bible times. It literally goes all the way back to those times. Where the Jews, where the Jewish people were the tax were the the people that came after you for paying to pay your taxes. Oh see, now that's not something that they portrayed, just what they want us to hear. That's what I see. It's in the Bible. Literally, we just went over in a church a couple of Sundays ago. And that, and that's so sickening that we have the history before us. But again, I am the first perpetrator of not fully understanding history. In fact, every time I talk about the Iraqi War, I think I missstate uh Saddam Hussein instead of.

23:07 What's the other guy's name? Now I've lost his name, So I've even been saying the wrong person, I think in regards to the wrong war. So I'm starting to streaten this mess out. I did the same thing. I had to go back and literally learn history, you know, on my own time, and uh, you know, my own way, because through my own research, that's the only way that people fully understand, because they're not going to teach you the correct way at all. Not only are they not going to create or treat you the right information or give you the right teach, not treat teach. I guess both is the same really in my mind now.

23:50 But by the time you're out of school and you're no longer taking history lessons, which was twenty thirty years of history previous to you even being alive, probably by the time you're an adult, you've got twenty years of more politics and history that's occurred under your belt that you weren't even aware of because you were just a kid toddling through life. Right, don't put on the politics on my TV. I don't want to see that. I want like ThunderCats or. So real. I was always fascinating myself, like when I was young, the Watergate here in is Vietnam War, all that was on TV, and I was fascinated firstally. But you had a mind. You had a mind.

24:30 Whenever Note eleven happened, I was like, I couldn't wait to get home because we got checked out a small and I couldn't wait to get home. Just so I could watch it on TV to see what was going on. And I was I was like, great, I saw the second plane hit live because I did. It was already on the it was there all film and line. I saw the second plane hit. And that's another thing about Nurremberg is Nurremberg is you can't attack unprovoked. So what did we have happened with nine to eleven and the Anthrax letters. We perpetrated, as far as I'm concerned, another attack on ourselves, just like we did with Cuba, just like I think we recently did with Iran by blowing up that school. You know, we provoked them to attack us so that we could go to war. And it likely was our missiles, but it certainly they've already told us one hundred times that we can't even get close enough to launch a missile because Iran has that area so well covered that they could pick us off at sea, they could pick us off.

25:32 In the air, they can pete. So how is it that America fired this missile at this school that caused this entire thing to blow up as it has? Yeah, provacation was in our history. The ten Offensive in the Vietnam War, remember the Main and the Spanish American War, all of them, in the Mexican American War. There's a lot of provocative acts. That's what they There's a term that was provocateur that that's like Yeah, it's like a spy set in to cause problems for a movement or. More for a group of people. Absolutely, absolutely so, a little bit more and we're going to move right on into tom Voy here. But it says the establishment of Israel and the war that followed and preceded it led to a major demographic change in the form of displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, sparking a decades long conflict between Israel and the Palestine Stinian people. In the nineteen sixty seven war, Israel expanded its borders to include, among others, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, territories that in nineteen forty eight absorbed a large part of the displaced Palestinian population. The Palestinians seek to establish their own independent state in at least one.

26:43 Part of historic Palestine. Israel sites defense of its own borders and Palestinian internal political violence as reasons why a Palestinian state is not feasible. A majority of United Nation members states recognized Palestine as an independent state, but this does not currently reflect the situation on the ground. Israel maintains effective control over the West Bank, while the Gaza Strip, despite not being under direct Israel control. Since two thousand and five, has been under a blockade by Israel and Egypt. Ye, so Palestine, it was actually a state before in Israel was and it's in the Bible.

27:25 Well, yes, that's where they ship. That's where the Rothschilds shipped. Here. Let me give all my good rich you know, comrades. I suppose a country, and we'll just usurp it from people of lesser means and kick them out, take it over, commit genocide, blow people up like. The whole thing has been a hot mess for I don't even know how long. Oh I lost her? Nope, she's still there. It says. Numerous peace negotiations have taken place over the years, but a long term settlement has not been reached. The conflict has been marked by violence, including Palestinian political violence and Israeli military operations. The United States and other countries have played a role in attempting to broke her peace, although Israel views the United States as its strategic ally rather than a neutral third party.

28:15 I don't understand why that's even possible. Because they're literally the size of New Jersey, like how they are greatest Alla, I don't need it. No, No, we are their strategic ally, they are our greatest. We are their greatest, I would think. So. It says numerous obstacles remain, including the issue of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, the status of Jerusalem, and the ultimate fate of Palestinian refugees. Very sad Am, I losing everybody. No, I don't know why it doesn't show my picture whenever change it. I see you to the right in the chats, but yeah, I don't see you on the screen, which is interesting.

28:59 I think or something because online when I do my streaming, I can do this and it will still showing my picture. Right, Okay, Well, I see, I hear you, and I can see you to the right, so I know you're still there. But it does look like we lost Nolan. So we talked about the. Million Ways to Die and the you know, Jewish versus versus the era a type mentality that we see going on. Not only that, but we see glorified mob and mafia, which we know the ADL protected back in you know, the early nineteen or I guess like the nineteen forties, nineteen sixties Blacklist, one of my all time favorite movies actually promotes the most notorious wanted criminal in history and shows them to be Jewish.

29:48 Yeah. I just can't make this stuff up. I mean, it. Doesn't surprise you when you keep going and going and you keep learning and learning, it's like, wow, nothing surprises me now, Like at first in the beginning, you're so show but then it keeps going, like staying repetition things over and over. It's like a cycle, and you're like, wow, that doesn't surprise me anymore. It is definitely cyclical. And I now understand why my good girlfriend said that, you know, the the darn izzies as she calls them, has continuously gautten US into war over the last several decades of her life, and we can now see how that is happening. So while I thought it was Netanyahu stating Saddam Hussein had these nuclear weapons, I'm pretty sure I mixed that up and it was actually Osama bid Laude and he was saying, I don't know one of the two, but they make them look like the bad guys when it's US imposing ourselves on them that makes them want to fight us.

30:47 Bush Invader e Rock because of the allegation of weapons of mass destruction, but they never found anything once. You know, they. Obliterated a lot of what they call the Holy Land, you know, the ancient birthplace of civilization basically. Well, and that's my point. So net and Yah, who's there going? We need to take him down. He has nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction, getting us, inciting us into a war that wasn't true. And as rare as the war moners. Yeah, it starts a war with you around. They get us involved, get us deeply involved. Then they go after Lebanon too. Lebanon didn't do anything to them. His bold a few things in retaliation for what is Israel's been doing to the Palestinians, but.

31:36 The country of Lebanon did not sanction any of it. But they're getting. Bombed right well. And that leads me into another article that I found, but I did it and not an article. It's a Foyer memorandum. That I found in the FBI files, and it actually is dealing with the assassination of President John F. Kennedy and it notes that George George E. Is I think that's an eed, George E. W. Bush. It says at one forty five pm, mister George MW. Bush. I think I don't know president of the Kapita Offshore Drilling Company, Houston, Texas.

32:18 I was a PATA. Yeah, this is so blurry once I blew it up, like some of the stuff is just going into nothing. But you're right. It's a PoTA Bush Oil Company in Texas. YEP gives telephonically furnished the following information to writer by long distance telephone call from Tyler, Texas. Bush stated that he wanted to be kept confidential, of course he did, but wanted to furnish hearsay that he recalled hearing in recent weeks. The day, the day and source unknown. He stated that one James Parrot. Have you ever heard that name before? No? I had neither, So that's why I brought this up. One James James Parish Parrot p R r Ott.

33:03 Oh, No, I've. Never heard this name before. That's why I brought this out. Tossinated, I know, And this is George Bush calling in to say one James parent had been talking of killing the president when he comes to Houston. Bush stated that Parrot is possibly a student at the University of Houston and is active in political matters in this area. He stated that he felt Missus Waynley telephone number and Arlene Smith telephone number of the Harris County Republican Party headquarters would be able to furnish additional information regarding the identity of the of Parrot. Bush stated that he was proceeding to Dallas, Texas, would remain in the Sheraton Dallas Hotel and return to his residence on eleven, twenty three, sixty three. So he furnishes this information, and I'm not sure it says one forty five pm. Do what was the time JFK was assassinated?

34:00 Twelve thirty Texas time? So he is now well, and I'm not sure. This obviously has got to be George Senior, not Grandpa, right. No, Doc Prescott, it is George Sr. Yes, he was still a relatively young man at that point. Well, because we saw Bush Junior at the depository in pictures of the depository, the young Bush. Yeah, yeah, wow him he was really from that point yeah. Very yet yeah, no even younger, I think, yeah, okay, like kids status. Okay, so I'm seeing these pictures. Which would were there that day. Well, and you wouldn't be there with you, daddy, right.

34:43 Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's a big national day. Yeah, it's a big national day for for Texas, right, and yeah, they would all have to be there, yea. And yeah, but he wasn't there though he was smart enough to not go shot. Right. But this intel is indicating that at one forty three pm he's back at his house on his way to Houston, Texas, or on his way to Dallas. Is Dallas, right. I'm gonta find you that picture in that and to send to you of of George Senior Bush in front of a steps area. I believe it's in Texas. And Harvey Oswald is in the photo.

35:28 Oh a daily plaza. How could he be in the photo if you already left? I can remember the location or the date the photo was taken. It was around that time where they looked about the same ages during that time frame. So I'd love to see it. We need to put it, put it out there. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely. All right, moving on, so that brings us back to obviously the zodiac stuff. I'm sorry we took such a big segue, but I really wanted people to understand the anthro attempts and the fact that it is known, and I said this. Our political science book says there's only two reasons that the president can override a veto from Congress to go to war, and that's an act of biowarfareism or an international act of terrorism, which we saw both happen in two thousand and one, and so moving that along, we also see the involvement with other wars throughout the Bush history. We've literally, basically, I think, been having the mob of the Syndicate, whatever you call it, run our politics for a very long time. So December fourteenth, two thousand and one, we've got twenty one year old Roger Dale Swinner at the sixteen thousand block of I forty five Shepherd Hill Road, Willis, Texas. You guys have to remember that at this very point in time, Jack is teetering around. Remember he's in Texas because his wife has died. He's come to Texas, he's gone to Washington, he's come back to Texas. Like he's in and out, and we don't really know where he is at at this very moment, but we do have this killing a driver.

37:01 Roger Dale Swinner was driving his red nineteen ninety two Ford semi tractor and pulling one half of a double wide mobile home and a second driver followed with the other half. Swinner swerved off the road onto a grass median. The other truck driver found him slumped over in his seat, and it was discovered that he had been shot by an unknown passing car with a twenty two caliber weapon. Wow. Yeah, Jack's favorite weapon. Let's create some more chaos somewhere, so keeping law enforcement busy. Maybe I don't know. This is what Dennis had to say in his book about this same timeframe. Christmas Day two thousand and one, and I have not eaten a bite for two weeks. I had not heard from Joy, as I figured she would have called since it was Christmas. After watching the kids open their presence, I decided to go see Joy one last.

37:46 Time before I headed back to California. I arrived in Port Haddock Padlock around nine am, and as I was driving through town, I saw. Joy in her aunt. They were going out to have breakfast and asked me to join them. Becaus. Joy and I went for a drive and it seemed like old times again. Joy decided to return to California with me and open our new cell phone store. I felt like I was finally alive again. I was so happy to have Joy back in my life once again. When we got back to California, Joy and I went and I met with my uncle. Tony to discuss the opening of the new store. Tony told Joy and I to find a location that we could open our store at. He also loaned us the money to move into an apartment and gave us our own cell phone. Within a week, we had moved into our own place and had signed a lease for our new store. It had been so long since I felt like this. So we know Jack's not around at this point, because Dennis makes no mention of what's going on.

38:42 He's working with his uncle to get things set up and the cell phone stores and all the things that Jack had always been a part of as well. I'm sure Dennis learned a lot of that from him. I was just thinking that, Yeah, and it seems I mean, because I want to say it was seventy nine weeks in Jack and Nora had moved back to the Auburn area and opened up their own cell phone business. So yeah, I feel like it was something that was in the making and following the footsteps of Yeah. January twelfth of two thousand and two and unidentified human skeleton remains in Houston, Texas school and bone oh School and Books on the Occult oh A School and Books on the Occult found in an iron cauldron which a citizen purchased at a flea market. And it was determined that the items originated from a storage shed purchased due to non payment by owner in Houston, Texas and was sold at a flea market at the twenty thousand block of Highway one oh five East, Cleveland, Texas. DNA could not be attained. But this is the second time I've read this, and so here we have another school, which means we've got a missing body somewhere.

39:54 And you know, one of the things that. I was listening to in the Mob documentaries in the last couple of weeks is that they used to cut off the hands of their victims. Yeah, and that was usually because they had meddled in something they shouldn't have meddled in, or gotten themselves involved, or spoke, you know, all these different things. But we have several grave sites that had extra sets of hands in with other remains. So again pointing back to Mob mafia, and one of the more interesting things is that one of the mafia members who Colombo. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. I can't think his first name.

40:35 He's so powerful that when the movie The Godfather's made, he's able to get Hollyweird to remove any instances of the word mafia being used. Wow, yeah, no coosinostra, No mafia. How are you that powerful? But the whole time he's going on an anti Semitic propaganda where he's marching through streets saying they're treating us badly. We're just innocent people's innocent Jews. We're not doing anything wrong. Meanwhile, he's the father of the family of the mom. I'm just like, you know this, and you let him, You let him set up marches and protests like, no, you should have taken him down.

41:20 Yeah. I think that we've not been protected as Americans for a very long time, and it's time for us to stand up and say it's time for us to be protected. Oh yeah, it's been a long time that people don't even know it. Yes, So going further, Jack was notorious for having storage sheds. We know this, and Dennis did too, maintaining them over however, caused both of them to losses due to non payment. And I've watched Dennis lose a few I know that Jack has probably lost several. And who knows whose hands some of this evidence might have ended up in. There was a letter that I haven't been able to validate called friction tape, and the letter states that he has his belongings marked with tape all over California. In closets.

42:04 I suppose that these might mean storage sheds. I mean, how many closets can you be in possession of unless you own the properties. Yeah. So February first of two thousand and two, Joy and I opened our new cell phone store, and after just a few days we were making money. Our first month was very profitable, and Joy and I really enjoyed what we were doing. The following month was even better and things were going good. Finally, however, this was about to suddenly change. So now I think we get to see Jack walking back into their lives. April two thousand and two, I get a phone call from my younger brother, Charles. He said he was going to come out and visit. He would be driving from Lockhart, Texas. So they are in Texas guys, I'm not wrong that shot. That shooting yes with the twenty two now puts them back in Texas.

42:53 I was surprised Charles wanted to see me because the last time we talked he was very angry with me for accusing his doubt of being Zodiac. However, it was good to hear from him and was looking forward to seeing my little bro. I was relieved to see that Charles wasn't mad at me anymore, or so I thought. A week later, Charles and his girlfriend Crystal. Now Crystal is the one that lives one zip code over her father lives one zip code over from Tim Miller, where the letter was mailed from. In Tim Miller's case, Wow. I was relieved to see that Charles wasn't mad at me anymore, or so I thought. A week later, Charles and his girlfriend Crystal arrive at our apartment in Sacramento, California.

43:33 This was the first time I met Crystal. She was very quiet. The following day we all went to our store, and Charles was impressed with the cell of your business so much that he wanted to move out here and start his own business as well. I told Charles, we can talk to Tony and see if he would be interested in setting up another store and have Charles run it. So it sounds again if not franchising, it's mob like. Right. Let me set up a bunch of businesses. I'm going to make a bunch of money off of, but I don't have to do work. Meanwhile, Meanwhile, we also show that Jack is definitely using the Shady Oak address, which is the mobile home on the property that Flova, his mother had owned before passing in nineteen ninety seven. So it tells me that this property as late as two thousand and two is still in the family's name. And this is an insufficient funds notice for bouncing checks. So that was sent to Jack on March twelfth of two thousand and two, and the Dale, Texas which is a basically a three hour drive time to most of the murders that are occurring at this particular point in time.

44:41 Banks statement going to Jack and Charles and Dale, Texas to Flova's home LUs Yeah, Okay. On April twenty eighth of two thousand and two, eighty one year old Willie Ortega DeAnda on the eleven thousand block of Crockett Martin Road in Conrod, Texas. DeAnda went to investigate suspects that entered home and was shot three times with the twenty two caliber weapon while standing in his bedroom doorway. He died before the first responders could arrive. Spouse claims she never seen the suspects. I don't know how. I don't know how you didn't see him? Right, Yeah, I guess you know. I'm not gonna go out and confront anyone.

45:22 I'm gonna lay low right Well, and if she had a good husband who told her stay in the room, or stay in the closet or you know, stay hidden basically because I need to go figure out what's going on, then yeah, there's a possibility that she never saw them. I don't know if I should climb into these next two pages. This is more interactions with Dennis and Jack. Since we just have a couple of minutes left, I would like to at least take some time to see what you guys thought about what we've covered so far. Well, I think that that you did a great full circle of you know, right back around to where you know we are right now with the with Jack and and his whereabouts, because they people need to know that that backstory in that back history of what is happening in the in those current times to be able to really understand fully one hundred percent you know what what we have here and what we're you know, what you're presenting.

46:19 So I think that's a great job that I think we've come pretty far with that, and that's thankful for that. Thank you. Yeah, it's good to know. And I this is why any of these murders, unsolved murders are in this presentation to begin with, is due to Jack's proximity. I mean, if if Jack's not in that state, why would I be talking about those I mean not that I don't think he has the ability to travel at will, because if he is working for the likes of the individuals, it may be that he had access to planes and to you know, travel and and things that would be out of the ordinary for somebody who didn't appear to even have a job or money. For that matter, and he was addicted to killing.

47:02 I think well, and I think at this point in two thousand and one, we've got him under the thumb of the FBI because Dennis has turned him in. So let's, you know, create some more chaos that they're following rather than looking at me. Dennis never, I think. Once ever suspected that Jack could have been possibly the author of the Anthrax letters. But when I told him about it, he said it made sense because he had recently been turned into the FBI. Yeah, so what a great way. We were actually told when they were doing the handwriting examination, doing the handwriting everybody on air I have air quotes up when the FBI claimed they were doing the examination on Jack's handwriting, we were told that it was held up almost ten months because Quantico was dealing with.

47:50 Terrorist handwriting, right. Yeah, this is two thousand and nine, though, well past the Anthrax letters, so we know it wasn't the Anthrax letters. But what's a quinkie inky here that we can't get Jack looked at in a timely manner because they're looking at terrorists handwriting? What? Yeah? Yeah, that was kind of a huge joke on itself. I mean literally, the report that they put out does not look like anything that a document examiner wouldn't write. It wasn't on the Hoya. Letterhead, it wasn't on any type of memorandum that I've seen throughout all the handwriting examinations in the Zodiac case, it did not appear or looked professional whatsoever. Is if somebody in the office had literally typed it up. It was a page and one paragraph on his second page, and it said he may have and he may not have. Yeah, And the biggest problem with this is that this is exactly what privatized document examiners see when they go up against an opposing examiner from the government. It's always inconclusive or they don't know. Those are the weakest forms of opinion.

48:55 Do you even know your job? They don't mark, they're just. Yep, that's exactly. And they learned how to take that from governmental deflection on into their own private practice, messing with court systems, depriving people of their their justice and their rights and some losing and maybe even their livelihood and going to jail on criminal matters they weren't responsible for. Like, the whole thing is just insane. Let's get over the inconclusive and let's put somebody behind the desk that actually knows their job and can get it done. At least has a strong take. A solid opinion that they'll stand on, not stragensive, inconclusive or may have or may not have.

49:40 Or at least give us cruise as to how you analyze it and what let you do your conclusions. One, show me your work, baby, show me your work. All right, you guys, we are at the end of our time now. I want to thank you both again for being here. This was absolutely phenomenal. We're going to pick back up where we left off and hopefully really climb into the tom. BOYIT stuff next week. Yeah's America, have a good words.