May 16, 2025

Research, Laundry and Zodiac Comments

Research, Laundry and Zodiac Comments
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Following up on the players in the Write of Habeas Corpus for Peter Wilson yields some interesting results. More answers to questions posed which only yields more questions. I am going to cover the YouTube comments on the Zodiac Killer that has built up for the last 2 weeks, and quite possibly climb into Laura Miller’s murder in the League City Field of Death.

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Good morning, True seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.

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I would love to introduce to the show today, first

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time live in many months. Harriet Souchet, Good morning everybody.

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Am I reading already. It's good to see you. It's

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good to have you back live. The girls, Welcome to

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the show. Nolan del Campo, Good morning everybody. Good morning Nolan.

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I think that I cut you off and we started

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the show right at the point where I said that

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Trump is at heart been a Democrat pretty much all

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of his life, so heavy supporters of the Clintons, And

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you said, what, Nolan, has we flipped over?

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He's not really Republican, He's a fascist.

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Uh pick whatever side benefits or is he a slid

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in agenda by the Democrats.

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No, what do you mean.

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No, he's been he's been a Democrat all of his

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life until running for presidency, maybe.

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Nominally, but he's almost kind of like a dictator.

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Well, but the thing is is he only gets the

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agendas across that they allow him to get across. I mean,

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we're seriously stupid if we think there isn't somebody there

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controlling what it is that he can and can't do.

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As Lotus, Well.

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He's taking a lot of liberty to show to say.

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You think about it. When he wanted to release when

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he wanted to release the JFK files, When he wanted

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to release the JFK files back in his first term,

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he had people come to him and said, no, you're

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not going to do that. That's control, that's power. Those

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are the people with the plays. So yeah, he's going

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to get certain amount of things he wants across, but

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there are definitely things I'm sure that he's not going

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to be able to touch because he's not going to

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be allowed to so his his agendas, and we see

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him speak about of these issues that he's going to

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have or make happen, only to find out that he doesn't.

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It started to dawn on me. Is this the reason

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why people believe politicians are liars? They promise us the world,

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we vote them into office, then they can't achieve what

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it is that they promised us, and that is because

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somebody else is not allowing them to do it. So

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were they really liars or were they just stifled on

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what their agenda was a little both.

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I honestly think that they waited for certain people from

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that era to pass on before they released a lot

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of those files, because.

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There were people that were still I.

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Went to the JFK conferences and a lot of those

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people ten years ago are no longer here. There were

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people that said I was there, you know, on what

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they now call the Grassy Knoll, and they said what

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they saw. But those people are gone now, and there's

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I think the people that were saying that Lee Oswald

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was standing in the doorway next to Billy Shelley because

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they knew somebody who knew that Billy Shelley. Those people

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are gone too. So you know, it's like they waited

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for them to go so they can release these files

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so there won't be somebody who might hold things up,

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you know, and the possibilities of releasing them because we're

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still supposed to be We're still supposed to believe that.

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I'll get it. No, of course, I think that the

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agenda they serve us up, whatever it is that they

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tell us their narrative, is what we're supposed to believe

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and follow. And unfortunately, I, myself and you as well,

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I think we're divergent.

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You know.

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I mean, I'm not going to accept for face value

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what the news tells me anymore. I haven't since twenty twelve.

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All right, So let's climb back into this. I have

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some research that I did in the Peter Wilson case,

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and I have come upon information I thought that was

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truly interesting to share. I did pose more questions to

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mister Wilson in prison, and I'm waiting his responses to those.

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So we'll have probably one more section where I follow

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up or at least cover some of the questions that

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have been asked through either the podcast, Nolan, yourself, Harriet.

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With this new research that you've done, I went online

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myself and I tried to find some of the players.

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One of them was the district Attorney Lynda Condron. Of course,

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this would be the handwriting I'd like to get my

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hands on to determine whether or not she removed those

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two pages from the police file which were the alibi

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evidence of Peter Wilson. And the reason why I think

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that that's probably a good starting point is going to

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be found in some of these articles that I found.

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Of course, most everything was fluff pieces on the individuals,

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the officer and the DA. However, you can always find dirt, right,

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So in a couple links, I was able to find

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something on each of them that kind of makes me

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question their capabilities in railroading mister Wilson. So this is

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out of the Daily Journal. This was written on April

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eighth of twenty eleven. It says Judge Linda Urcondron admits

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she can be tough on lawyers, but they say she's fair.

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And it was written by Craig Anderson. It says San

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Jose as a prosecutor, Santa Clara County Judge Linda R.

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Condren was known as a hard charging advocate when she

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won a judicial seat eleven years ago. So mind you,

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she won the seat in two thousand and we're talking

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about the initial trial of Peter Wilson that was done

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in two thousand. See so it was only natural to

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wonder how she would adapt to her new role as

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an impartial jurist. In fact, Condron says she wondered about

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that herself. Keenly aware that many former prosecutors are regarded

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with suspicion by the defense bar, she says she worried. Oh,

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I guess I didn't continue on with her worries. But

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let's now we get to some more of the dirt

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parts of it. So on almlaw dot com, I've found

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judicial profile for Linda Condron. It says a career prosecutor,

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Condron ran for election to an open seat in two thousand.

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After she won, Governor Davis appointed her to the bench

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so she could take her seat early earlier this year.

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She was assigned a backlogged domestic violence calendar, where she's

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expected to handle cases from arraignment through trial and seeing

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she and the two other judges have cut down the

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number of cases waiting for trial from eighty to twenty.

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And she says, and if a prosecutor can't produce a

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witness but doesn't have good cause for a continuous Lopez,

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she will make the DA dismiss the case. So Lopez

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is I believe an attorney who is speaking in regards

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to Linda Condron. I thought that that particular statement right

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there was interesting to note because in the Peter Wilson

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in case, we know that William Coleman, the other roommate,

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which is the suspect in my client's mind, mister Wilson's mind,

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he believes that mister Coleman is the one that actually

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committed the murder. He left the country, he was no

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longer available to the district attorney as a witness, and

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Linda Condrin stated in or stipulated to the court that

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they were unable to locate him and if they were

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not capable during this trial to find him, that they

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would read his testimony into the court. Now, Nolan, I

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can't imagine what that testimony could contain that would be

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so important, obviously, U unless mister Coleman was fingering mister Wilson,

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and that might answer one of those questions, right.

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Was it a testimony and a deposition and growth.

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I have no idea. Again, I have did those transcripts

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from mister Coleman or from mister Wilson to see if

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he could provide with what mister Coleman's testimony was but

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he was being called as a witness for the DA.

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Yeah, that's generally allowable in a freelom, but her trial,

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you want the witnesses their lives, so the jury could

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see their faces and see if they're fidgety, and you

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know their demeanor and their behavior and whatnot.

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Well, and that's what made this statement by this attorney

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so interesting. If a prosecutor can't produce a witness but

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doesn't have good cause for continuance, Condren makes the district

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attorney dismiss the case.

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But she didn't do it as a prosecutor.

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Though heck, no, she didn't. And so it gets better, huh,

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says Condren. Said she doesn't try to hide her displeasure

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if an attorney isn't ready or intentionally miss represents facts

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in court. Oh, somebody's on a soapbox. But the judge said,

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she doesn't let frustration or emotion color her decision making.

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Early on, I made a decision for exactly the wrong reasons,

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Condron explained, And out of custody, I defendant violated a

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court order, didn't show up for a hearing, and was

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found sitting in a car in the court's parking lot

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with a bottle of tequila. It had been a stressful day. Yeah,

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I thought that was comical. It had been a stressful day,

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Condron said, And when the bailiff brought the defendant into

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her courtroom, she remanded him into custody. Condron said she

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doesn't regret the decision, just how she reached it. None

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of it was cold, clear, calculated decision making, Condron said.

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She said she agonized all night and went in at

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four am the next morning to make sure the defendant

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was on that day's calendar. After that experience, Condron said,

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she vowed, I'd never ever in my life do this again.

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I highly doubt that she could make any you know,

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promises to herself, especially when she was vying for a

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seat as a judge back when she was a district attorney, says.

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These days, Condron says she strives to be dispassionate. If

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her temper flare, she'll step off the bench for a

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few minutes and have a sip of water. Sometimes, she added,

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she'll run, pointing to a treadmill in the corner of

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her office. Where it got extremely interesting is in an

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article by The Mercury News saying can ex prosecutor let

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go facing double murder charges. In nineteen eighty seven, Miguel

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Angel I'm not going to try that last name, failed

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to convince a jury that he acted at the order

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of drug dealers who had threatened to kill him and

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his family. He was sentenced to death. But today defense

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attorneys say that they have evidence that his claim was

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true and that the prosecution team in the case covered

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it up. Though the prosecutor has denied wrongdoing, the attorney's

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evidence has so impressed the state Supreme Court that has

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ordered an unusual inquiry into the case, which will soon

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require the prosecutor to testify under oath about her conduct.

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That prosecutor is no longer trying cases. She is Joyce Allegro,

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a Santa Clara County Superior Court judge, so coming from

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the same area and the same background, basically as Kondrin.

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Allegro is one of several prosecutors turn judges who engaged

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in questionable behavior while trying cases. A Mercury News examination

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shows now those individuals Allegro, Linda Condron, and Paul Bernal

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are provoking questions again, but the stakes are higher. No

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longer are they advocates sparring to make points in the courtroom,

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but arbitrators who can set the tone for an entire trial.

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All three are at a relatively early phase in their

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too earlies in the legal community. I think basically the

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message that gets sent is that you can break the

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rules to achieve results, and if you learn that lesson

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as a lawyer, it may very well carry over to

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the judicial role, said Michael Kresser, executor, director of the

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sixth District of Pilot program, which reviews prosecutors and judges

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conduct at trial as it researches appeals. Now, this is

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specifically in regards to something that Linda Condron did. Yet

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another judge who has created conscient divers both as prosecutor

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and juriss this Condren in her time as a prosecutor.

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Perhaps the most stark example involved Condren's handily and false

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testimony presented in Andreil Fagin's nineteen ninety eight murder case.

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The issue arose during an early hearing when a police

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investigator denied arranging the jailhouse meeting between Fagan and another suspect.

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The circumstances of the meeting were crucial because Fagan confessed afterward.

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In fact, the investigator had arranged the meeting, and he

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contacted Condron and after his testimony to say that he

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had misspoken, but she did not tell the judge or

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the defense. According to the court transcripts, the investigator went

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to Condron a second time, but she still did not

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clear up the issue. When the truth emerged in court

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months later, Judge Nazario Gonzalez scolded the prosecutor. It is

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important that the prosecution really really follows the rules. There

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is no need to hide the Balkans. So basically in

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ten ninety eight and we and we know that Peter

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Wilson was arrested in ninety six, but he's falling into

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this pattern in which Linda Condron is withholding pertinent information

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in regards to murder convictions and likely to secure those

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convictions because she's trying to bat for those points to

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make judge wow.

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Right, It's amazing how how many prosecutors become judges. Most

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of they happens all the time, obviously in Santa Claric Ellie,

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and it's nobody even about it. They just approve them.

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That's crazy. And we have her here, I mean literally,

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I think that there should be some type of a

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penalty to a prosecutor that would do something like this.

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Well, yes, there should be a judicial state bar investigation.

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That's misconduct, absolutely yeah.

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And she's showing, she's showing that that's the way she's

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learned that she can win in court cases. And now

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she's a judge who who is demanding that all evidence

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and facts be It's almost as if she's taking this

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hard stance to eat, literally erase who she was as

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a prosecutor because she wasn't following the rules, and now

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she's demanding that other attorneys are yeah, well well, It

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goes on to say, what's that we'll see?

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I mean, as convenient for her to say that now

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makes her look good, but who knows what she's actually

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gonna do exactly.

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It goes on to say Condren won election to the

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bench a year later, some attorneys, so she will she

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won that said ninety eight. I'm trying to put the

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because she was not a judge in this case in

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two thousand. So would a prosecutor continue to prosecute a

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case if it went to court after they become a judge.

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She would have to recuse herself. She couldn't be the

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judge it couldn't be the prosecut either. His nation is

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the judge. And I think you said earlier that even

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before the election took effect, that because she got elected,

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Gray Davilas appointed her. So she got on early before

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she was supposed by election, so she then appointed prior

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to the election taken effect.

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So then I'm going to have to figure out how

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that's working, because it's they're making it sound as though

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she became a judge in two thousand and We know

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that mister Wilson's trials were two thousand and two thousand

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and five, but he has repeatedly stated in his information

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to me that Linda Kandrin was the district attorney on

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this case, maybe.

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Prior to her being a judge, but she couldn't have

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done a dual role. What's you're a judge or a judge.

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Well, so then that that just begs the question. I mean,

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I'm going to clear that up, but I'm pretty sure

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that he stated his trials were too thousand and two

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thousand and five, and that Linda Condron was the DM

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both cases. But based on this information, it's indicating that

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she became a judge in two thousand, So maybe I

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just need to firm up those concepts es blah blah blah.

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Some attorneys who have appeared in her courtroom complain about

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a volatile demeanor that they fear conveys bias to the jury,

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but those complaints come from both Ann said recently that

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he will absolutely never appear in her courtroom again. After

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Condron at one point placed her hand in front of

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Compari's face to stop him from talking. When the defendant

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in the he this was acquitted, kim Perry recalled Condron

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abruptly left the courtroom, sending what the defense attorney considered

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an unmistaken, unmistakable signal of her displeasure with the verdict.

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That's not discompassionate as far as i'm.

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What's that. That's a childish behavior by a judge. That's

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not cool.

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It's completely unprofessional. Yeah, and Condron did not respond to

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request for an interview in this article. Go figure now

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on Sergeant Yure. Sergeant Michael Yor was an investigator in

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the death of palaw Alto resident Josephine Galbraith. Although Gallbrave

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died in nineteen eighty five, her former husband Nelson was

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arrested for her murder sixteen months later. He was acquitted

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in nineteen ninety eight, and then initiated a lawsuit that

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rebounded through the court system even after his two thousand

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and two death, until it was settled last Tuesday with

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a four hundred thousand dollars payment and an apology from

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Santa Clara County in a two thousand and five day

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long deposition. Your appears as though he didn't prepare to testify,

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offering answering. I don't know, but he is also stated

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during the deposition he considered the family's lawsuit ludacris. So

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this is basically a situation where he wrongly arrested and

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had a man and it took him sixteen months to

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clear his name for murder he didn't commit because his

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wife had act actually committed suicide. So this will show

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you even mister yours, you know, gung ho about trying

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to close a case on the wrong suspect and what

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he made do to do that. I would like to

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see some background on this one as well.

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Can I say now a little bit about mister r

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Can I just say something about mister yr And this

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is where I got frustrated and sent you that text message.

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I did a bunch of reading through I believe it

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was the Mercury News, and then I suddenly hit the paywall. Okay,

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mister Yore had a subordinate partner that was last named

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Mohammad that he in other cases had a sign duties

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or other things and cases he was involved with to

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his partner, and I tried to find that name again.

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I tried to find the article, spend about an hour

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trying to find it. But I think that this is

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also something that you might want to try to ask

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your client, you know, who was the other person that

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was there that allegedly arrested him at the same time,

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et cetera, et cetera. Because that was just blowing my mind.

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I saw somebody that was a partner that and it

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is common that police, you know, higher ups do assign

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things to the people below them for the cases that

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they are on. So anyways, that was my interjection.

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But wouldn't that be more or less investigative work or paperwork,

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I mean, the notion or the idea that this is

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going to be who we see the deal on. You

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would have to get that subordinate partner to be on

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board with railroading somebody.

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That's why I was trying to find the rest and

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then suddenly I think as I hit the paywall, I

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could no longer access that, so, you know, got yeah,

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So that's why I'll send you the text message because

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that's interesting. There's somebody else's possibly involved.

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Well well, I mean, obviously it's going to take more

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than just this officer and the DA to you know,

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get wict it. If he's truly innocent, you have you

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have the person who claims to have searched the backpack.

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When I went back and I reread the notes from

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Officer Brooks, I believe it was in regards to the

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search and seizure of the backpack after they obtained the

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warrant on April first. There was absolutely no mention specifically

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of the alibi note or the receipt any of the

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alibi evidence. So they did say papers and receipts, but

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they didn't actively notate what those items were, so there

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is basic This would also, I think lead back to

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mister yor having illegally searched and taken this information from

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the backpack the day before, so now it is not

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available for it to be logged and recorded by Officer

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Brooks on the first on April first, when the search

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warrant actually came into play.

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Yeah, that sucks, and they didn't get in trouble for it.

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First they should have withheld any evidence unless it was

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just exploratory because it was illegal search.

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Right they Yeah, they shouldn't have taken anything out of

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that backpack on three point thirty one. But we do

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have it in mister your's handwriting that he did. He

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copied it, it went into the police file and then

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becomes missing at a later time. So doing some research

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and trying to get some handwriting on some of the

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other players, like the officer or even Linda Clark, which

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that is her name now, Linda Condron is now Linda Clark,

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to see whether or not the initial lying of the

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removal of those pages can be ablished us to the

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person who did it. More information on Peter Wilson. So

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I found several different articles and again, just like we

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know the news, they never produce things correctly. They just

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want to get a story out there and they don't

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care if it's right or not. I was able to establish,

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and I'm hoping that this is going to be confirmed

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by him, that he was likely thirty one years old

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at the time that this murder occurred in nineteen ninety six,

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and I found this article which was the Palo Alto

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online dot com, which is the Morgue News, and this

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was this was actually done April fifth, nineteen ninety six.

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So this is on a Friday, and this is the

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Friday following the actual murder of miss Kim. So it

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says murder suspector reigned, neighbors shocked, recall victim as pleasant

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and quiet. That's a complete lie. If you look at

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the investigator's notes and both sides, both the district attorney's

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investigator and the private investigator for mister Wilson, they both

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described Miss Kim as a very volatile person that she

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would lose her mind. Yeah, she lose her mind, and

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brash and not pleasant at all. Her neighbor does not

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describe her that way. Her neighbor described her as a

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person who was not happy with somebody was doing some

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work for her in her yard. She wasn't happy with

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what they were doing. She began yelling and screaming at them,

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and when they tried to hurry up and get in

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the truck and pull off, she jumped onto the side

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of the truck held on screaming obscenities at them like

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she was not pleasurable and nice in my mind, and

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of course she owned the cleaners. She's of Asian descent.

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These people are typically known to be very brash. They're

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gonna be polite to their customers who come in, but

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don't mess with them and don't try to cross them

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because they will have their way with you. So it says.

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A thirty one year old Palo Alto man suspected of

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killing his landlady was a rained Wednesday on a charge

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of murder with special circumstances, which means he could face

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the death penalty if he is convicted. Police arrested me

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Peter Wilson Sunday morning after being called to the home.

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So now we've got that answer. He was literally arrested

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that morning when the cops came to his home.

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Did they arrest the next of the time and just

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let him go or they just didn't arrest him, or

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did he.

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That's those are questions I'm waiting on, is whether or

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not they treated mister Coleman the same way, Whether or not,

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you know, how a did Coleman play into this entire

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thing other than having made that that call to nine

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one line. So police arrested Peter Wilson Sunday morning after

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being called to the home at eleven sixty Fulton Street

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at three forty five with the report of an accidental death.

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Police arrived and found Hawk ju Jene Kim, fifty nine,

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dead from apparent head injuries. They interviewed two tenants who

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rented home rooms in the neat Spanish style home, and

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arrested Wilson, releasing the other tenant. So there's your answer,

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or well, at least if we're to believe the news again,

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Wilson is being held in the main jail in San

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Jose without bail in his scheduled to enter a plea

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on April eleventh. So now what did I see? So

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he was already being arraigned on Wednesday, Nolan, So on

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April fifth, which is a Friday, two days previous April third,

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so literally three days after he after he found the body,

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he was being arraigned for murder. Wow, that seems awfully fast,

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awfully quick. Yes, and in his real name? Are we

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getting We're going to get to that, Yes, yeah, Wilson is.

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Wilson is being held in the main jail in San

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Jose without bail in his schedule to enter a plea

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on April eleventh. Police detective Tammy Gage said there was

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evidence at the house that made police believe Kim's death

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was a homicide, but she would not elaborate. Police say

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Wilson is unemployed and was formerly known as ininen Low

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and that's e I N A N l o U

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based on this article, but had legally changed his name.

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Kim owned the Elite Cleaners on University Avenue, near the

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Varsity Theater, but had sold the business. As of Wednesday afternoon,

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bright yellow police tape still surrounded the entire perimeter of

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the home on the corner of Kingsley Avenue in Fulton

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and Palo Alto. Outside patio lights remained on, and yellow

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roses bloomed along a sidewall. Neighbors say Kim apparently lived alone,

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working long hours from seven am to seven pm every day.

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You don't see her and she doesn't talk, so how

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is she pleasurable?

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In staid one neighbor, I just wanted to say I

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liked working with people like her, because that's the people

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I work with.

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So anyways, it says I'm shocked myself. She was a

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pleasant lady. I don't know why they killed her. Kim

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had lived in the home for two years, Na said,

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and had a son in Coopertino and a daughter somewhere else.

464
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:10.440
She was quiet. I used to see her doing her

465
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:13.440
gardening and washing her car, said Marcia Bauman, who lives

466
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:16.079
across the street from Kim's home. It's horrible the idea

467
00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:19.240
that anything would ever happen to someone here. It was

468
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:22.640
pretty eerie. This is the first murder in Palo Alto

469
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:26.480
since November of nineteen ninety four, so that kind of

470
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:30.400
goes back now into it was Mark Buffington I was

471
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:34.160
talking to. He's former law enforcement and he refers to

472
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:38.000
these fu fu areas where they can't allow crimes to

473
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:42.880
go unsolved because there's so much money and elite people

474
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:46.559
that will, I guess, give them grief, cause them issues

475
00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:49.359
and problems if they don't immediately solve crimes to make

476
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:56.319
their area look like it's perfect. Does that make any

477
00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:56.920
sense to you?

478
00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:01.960
Yeah, Yeah. They don't want property values to go down,

479
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:05.880
they don't want white flight. They want they wanted to

480
00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:09.359
be seen as Christine and calm and safe.

481
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:13.440
Yeah, and that's pretty much what Market expressed that they

482
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:17.640
considered Palo Alto to be one of those fu FU areas, just.

483
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:21.720
A little side on Paulo Alto murders. So they finally

484
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:25.160
solved the murder of Arlest Perry that was killed in

485
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:28.880
the in the church at at Stanford University. That was

486
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:32.519
part of the whole Son of Sam situation. It was

487
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:37.240
in the documentary episode Yeah and the Santa Clair Cops.

488
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:39.720
It was the security guard that worked at the church,

489
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:45.799
but he had just recently got the job, so this

490
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:47.880
was years later. It was a cold case. It was

491
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.480
like thirty thirty years later, and the cops go to

492
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:55.400
his apartment armed and they're backing on the door. We're

493
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:59.079
here to Cervil war blah blah blah, and he ended

494
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:03.519
up shooting himself. But then the diegos on TV and says,

495
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.559
we saw the Arles Perry murder at the Stanford church.

496
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:14.559
So that isn't that interesting because security guard is the

497
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:20.480
role obviously that Jack Terrence played with many of his jobs,

498
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:27.799
both at Hewlett Packard also at Arizona State University. We

499
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:30.119
haven't made it to that yet, Nolan, but he was

500
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:32.079
there in ninety three and that was the time that

501
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.599
they started cataloging anthrax.

502
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:38.799
Interesting.

503
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.200
Yeah, it's going to be a very interesting episode once

504
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:44.200
we get there. But yeah, so you shoot yourself, Why

505
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:47.359
so you don't bring suspicion towards anything else or anyone

506
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:48.920
else that might be a part of that group.

507
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:54.079
Yeah, that way they couldn't interrogate him because the theory

508
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:58.359
is that he was part of a cult affiliated with

509
00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:02.920
the process Church of Final Judgment. And that's instead of

510
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:08.200
Sam the twenty two disciples in Huntermyer, Park and Yonkers,

511
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:12.720
they were affiliated with the Processed Church too, and so

512
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:19.240
was there's familiar with the Dakota there was also affiliated

513
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:20.240
with the Processed Church.

514
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.039
I am not familiar with the Processed Church. Obviously we're

515
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.640
not talking like Scientology and Manson, right.

516
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.519
Well, you know what, Manson was affiliated with the Processed

517
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.319
Church too, and he was affiliated with Scientology and the

518
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:37.839
process Church sprung out of Scientology. It was two former

519
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:42.240
scientologists that got married and they they were into the

520
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:44.480
Scientology thing, but they wanted to go further with it,

521
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.119
and so they started their own sect, so we say,

522
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:51.000
and it was called the Processed Church of the Final

523
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:54.119
Judgment who ultimate goal was to bring it bring about

524
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:57.519
the end of the Earth or end of human kind anyway.

525
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:01.079
Wow, and they were going to one by one running

526
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:01.960
around shooting people.

527
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:06.119
Huh yeas Church and the Netflix.

528
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:10.240
Documentary, how are they supposed to get their big mac

529
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:12.680
if they do away with everybody?

530
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.119
Yeah, but it's also that book by Mortary called The

531
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.359
Ultimate Evil. It's a lot of it's in there too.

532
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:26.240
But that's what this is. The whole Netflix documentary is

533
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:29.519
basically on Morey Terry and the book and so Sam

534
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:30.720
Murders and the cult.

535
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:35.279
I thought this was a different documentary. I'm gonna need

536
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:37.079
to get that name from you then, because I didn't

537
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:39.240
realize that the one that I watched certainly did not

538
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:44.000
allude to They basically talked about the journalist that was

539
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:46.960
trying to uncover the cold facet of it, and and

540
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.680
that it was not just you know, uh Burkewitz operating

541
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:53.079
in his own on his own, that there were other

542
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.720
people involved. So is that the one you're talking about.

543
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:59.319
Yeah, there's episodes, though there's like four or five episodes.

544
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:03.000
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that I watched that one. I

545
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:05.119
might I might not have made it to the last one.

546
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:09.240
And maybe that's where they expressed the the security officer.

547
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.680
Yeah, that's the very last one at the end because

548
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:21.119
that happened way years later. Yeah and no less. Yeah,

549
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.799
the capital there to arrest him for the murder of

550
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:28.519
Artist Perry and he shot himself, killed himself. Wow. Yeah,

551
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:30.400
it was a cold case. It was at least thirty

552
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:30.960
years later.

553
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:35.599
Yeah, because that's the eighties. I mean we right, Son

554
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:37.720
of Sam was No, that was the seventies.

555
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:41.039
That was in the seventies and late seventies Perry was killed.

556
00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:43.880
So I think it was like forty years later that

557
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.960
they finally figured out who it was. And Maury Terry

558
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:51.720
in the documentary that was his primary suspect and artist

559
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:53.839
Pero murder, but nobody listened to him.

560
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:59.759
Oh wow, now in the book, yeah, go ahead. Is

561
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:02.200
the Smiley Face murders the same as the Son of

562
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:08.760
Sam No murders? Are those two different killing sprees, do

563
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.360
you know, Harriet? I think they are different.

564
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:16.519
Yeah, yeah, different.

565
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:18.559
We're gonna have to look that up because.

566
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:23.719
There was probably a group much like Zodiac. There were

567
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:28.280
young male females was killed. Yeah, there were eight attacks.

568
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:33.239
Thirteen people were shot. I think seven died, and uh,

569
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:36.280
there's allegations that they were filming some of the murders

570
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:40.000
as well. The smiley face murders occur.

571
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:43.400
The I guess the nuance or them was that they

572
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.719
would draw yellow or spray painted yellow smiley face near

573
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.800
one of the bodies of the person that was killed.

574
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.559
So that's why they were named the smiley face murders.

575
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:57.320
But I know that in the Tim Miller communication we

576
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:05.119
have the laughing mas which me could represent smiley face

577
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:07.239
type behaviors.

578
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:14.599
Remember what the laughing face. That's a Greek tragedy company tragedy.

579
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:18.440
I used to know the name. But anyways, Yeah, so

580
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:23.320
there was the one that was trying to right and

581
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.920
I'm trying to I don't know, I have to go

582
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.079
back and look them up again. I was just trying

583
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:34.360
to match the the It's basically the Tim Miller letter

584
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.480
reads kind of like I'm responsible for the I forty

585
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:45.880
five uh phantom murders the zodiac like it's Andy had

586
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.559
these the like she had said, the smiling and tragic

587
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:56.800
face masks that I haven't established what his meaning or

588
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.400
what set of crimes that goes to. So that's why

589
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:03.239
I was asking. All right, So back here on the

590
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:06.639
research now. An article written in two thousand says Peter

591
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.880
Wilson is forty five years old, so in four years

592
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:16.320
he gained fourteen because the last article said he was

593
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:21.280
thirty thirty one in nineteen ninety six, right, so in

594
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:24.800
two thousand he would only have been thirty five and they, yeah,

595
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.760
wrote forty five. So I'm constantly getting back and forth information.

596
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:31.119
Life sentence for murder San Jose, a forty five year

597
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:33.719
old Palo Alto man convicted in the nineteen ninety six

598
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:36.000
lane of his landlady, will be sentenced to life in

599
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.760
prison without the possibility of parole on April twenty first,

600
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:42.760
So that was written on two thousand, so that was

601
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:48.679
basically maybe his first So maybe I thought he said

602
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:51.199
he had a retrial in two thousand and five, So

603
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.119
maybe he had one early in ninety six and then

604
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:56.679
a second one in two thousand. I'm going to follow

605
00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:58.760
that up and firm that up. That would make more

606
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:01.559
sense if Condron became a judge in two thousand, that

607
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.519
she was no longer a district attorney, or that she

608
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.599
was able to prosecute those cases during ninety six to

609
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:12.639
two thousand. Was hung jury.

610
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:17.320
Before she became a judge, we don't know, Yeah, but when.

611
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:21.039
Was the sentencing date in April April twenty first.

612
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:25.360
Mmm, okay, well that means the trial must have been

613
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:28.400
in January February, I would think.

614
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:33.119
Right, Well, the first one was a hung jury, but

615
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:37.480
apparently he stayed in prison during that time, and then

616
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.880
the second one. The first one, the first trial was

617
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:44.360
a hung jury, but I believe he stayed in prison

618
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.239
all that time, and then they got the other trial.

619
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.159
Well, that would make sense in.

620
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:53.159
Two thousand, so and that would have been the first trial. Right,

621
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:56.119
What was our trial prior to you think trial?

622
00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:02.519
Yeah, it was prior to two thousand, because it's he

623
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:08.840
was a rank. He was arraigned on April third, nineteen

624
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:12.440
ninety six, so that trial had to have probably, okay, right,

625
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:13.880
that trial would have had to have occurred.

626
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:19.079
The prosecutor the first trial, but not probably not the second.

627
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:23.039
And the second. No, she was. He lists her as

628
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:27.199
the district attorney for both his both trials. Yes, so

629
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.039
I'm thinking this is just shortly before she actively takes

630
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:33.559
the seat as a judge in two thousand. All right.

631
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:38.159
So Peter Wilson, right, who changed his name from him

632
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:41.719
Ain and Loeu, was found guilty Thursday of first degree

633
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.199
murder and the fatal bludgeoning of Hawk Jew Kim out

634
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.719
of Fulton Street Home. County prosecutors said Wilson had killed

635
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:51.119
Kim fifty nine for financial gain. Wilson had forced her

636
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.320
to sign a contract in which he promised to give

637
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:55.800
her three hundred thousand in lieu of payne monthly rent

638
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:58.679
for a room in her house. According to the deputy

639
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:06.679
District Attorney Linda Handran, this is it is yeah and

640
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:09.880
this has written March March twenty fifth of two thousand.

641
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:15.679
So now let's talk about this motive. How again, asian

642
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:21.679
self employed business owner independent owns her own home living

643
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:25.760
in the the in Fufu area of Palo Alto, is

644
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:28.199
going to allow somebody to move in rent free?

645
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:31.079
Now I go.

646
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:34.920
I reflect back on the information given by mister Wilson

647
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:38.159
who states that he had rental receipts in his in

648
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.239
his binder of his paperwork, and the district Attorney Linda

649
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:46.119
Kondrin tried to convince or basically must have convinced the

650
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:49.519
jury that he forced miss Kim to sit down and

651
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:51.840
write these three rental receipts before killing her.

652
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:59.719
That's all I would love to say. That is the

653
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:03.639
just pay rent said, That's what I'm saying.

654
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:07.599
None of it makes any sense. Three hundred thousand dollars

655
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:09.719
in lieu of pay monthly rent. I mean, what could

656
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:12.519
rent have been back in nineteen ninety six two hundred

657
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:17.480
bucks a room for a month. Yeah, it doesn't make

658
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:18.840
any sense. So now.

659
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.880
At that point, well, if I can I just say

660
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:28.719
something real quick. I read and then I hit the paywall.

661
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:30.519
But I could have sworn.

662
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:33.079
So hopefully this will get more people to look into

663
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:38.039
this unique case, that the three hundred thousand dollars would

664
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:41.760
have been the low end value of that house. That

665
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:46.119
should something have happened to her because of what is

666
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:49.920
allegedly signed, et cetera, et cetera. He was to get

667
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.760
the house, but you know, not a beneficiary.

668
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:56.880
Beneficiary. I don't see any information that it needs for

669
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:01.599
it will. Yeah, he has no entitlement to this, to

670
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:04.760
this property whatsoever. She has two children, she has nieces,

671
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.920
she has family members, she has people that would have naturally,

672
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:10.039
if she did not have a will in place, would

673
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:12.079
naturally have inherited that property.

674
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:16.800
He would never and they probably did get the property when.

675
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:25.840
She was killed exactly, so this, yes, doesn't make any sense.

676
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:29.599
And he literally had receipts from her for having paid

677
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.719
his rent. So now it all sounds like hogwash. Not

678
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:37.599
only are they now producing bad facts or uh what

679
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:39.360
would you call that. I'm going to find the right

680
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:43.880
word for that, reducing evidence bad evidence?

681
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:45.679
Yeah yeah.

682
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:51.079
Yeah, and then with holding exculpatory evidence.

683
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:56.199
Yes, that's just this condoxt. So this car is a

684
00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:56.599
piece of.

685
00:41:56.639 --> 00:42:01.920
Work, and and somehow it's as the prosecution established that

686
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:05.159
Wilson never paid her and never had the funds available

687
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:09.880
to him, Condron said, now go back to he had

688
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:13.960
four hundred dollars in his backpack that was taken and

689
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:17.880
never returned to him. He believes that, sergeant, you're actually

690
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:21.679
responded with it. He has a security lock box at

691
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:28.039
a bank, which that takes money to have one. I mean,

692
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:31.400
they don't give you these things for free, right, not

693
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:33.280
even back in nineteen ninety six. I would assume that

694
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:34.679
would be a service you'd have to pay for.

695
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:39.280
I don't have safety.

696
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.320
And if he had never paid, if he had never

697
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.920
paid rent, I don't I don't see her stopping short

698
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:53.840
of tossing him and his belongings out right, I mean,

699
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.719
where's the where's the where's the poll for keeping a

700
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:00.440
renter in your home that isn't paying his rent, and

701
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:03.559
he actively had that one room that had its own

702
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:05.719
back door access so he could come and go as

703
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:08.199
he pleases. That would have probably been the more expensive

704
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:10.920
room versus the one upstairs that you have to travel

705
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:12.440
all the way through the house to get down and

706
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:17.079
out right, none of this is making any sense, so

707
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:19.599
it says this was the second time Wilson had been

708
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.039
tried for the murder of Kim so Yes in two

709
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:24.960
thousand and second time for Okay, this was the second

710
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:26.800
time Wilson had been tried for the murder of Kim,

711
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.880
who used to own elite cleaners on Palo Alto's University Avenue.

712
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:33.559
The first trial in nineteen ninety eight ended in a

713
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:39.960
hung jury. That's where Harriet probably read that. Yeah, the

714
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:42.760
Palo Alto Daily Post. I thought this was an interesting

715
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.920
article because it's talking about murders in Palo Alto over

716
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:49.599
the past three decades, and of course actually listed this

717
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:53.760
particular murder, which this is written in twenty twenty four.

718
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:56.440
So it boggles me why anybody would want to dredge

719
00:43:56.519 --> 00:43:59.239
up the murders from Palo Alto. But why I was

720
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.159
more shocked about. So if you guys go to Palo

721
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:05.239
Alto Daily Post and look up this article for August second,

722
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.360
twenty twenty four, and the headline is murders in Palo

723
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:11.280
Alto over the past three decades, take a look at

724
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:14.400
the murders and the sentences some of these individuals received.

725
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.440
One of the cases that I read, the woman had

726
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:21.519
stabbed I believe either her sister or brother a family

727
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:25.480
member basically forty one times in order to steal money

728
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:29.039
from him that they thought he had, and she received

729
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:32.480
five years. No, no, no, let me take that back.

730
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:35.760
She only was in prison for five years. It was

731
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:42.639
considered time served. Wow, forty one times stab So it's

732
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.639
interesting to see who they ammed up for, how long

733
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:49.599
they hemmed them up, and what their actual sentence sentenceings were,

734
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:54.239
because there's no rhyme or reason to the murder. I mean,

735
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:57.320
they're all murders basically, so no matter if you poison them,

736
00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.679
or you stabbed them, or you shot them, or you

737
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:04.480
w everybody had everybody seemed to get something different. But

738
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:09.639
here we had mister Wilson facing life without the possibility

739
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:13.599
of parole and possibly the death sentence. So this is

740
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:18.760
written by David Price, Daily Post editor. Possible Russian mob hit,

741
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:21.000
the robbery of an innocent man out for a walk,

742
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:23.960
a family fight over money, a dispute with the building manager,

743
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:27.000
a bullet seemingly shot into a crowd at random. Those

744
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:29.199
are some of the facts behind murders in Palo Alto

745
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:31.800
over the last three decades. And here's a look back

746
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:34.760
at those cases, so you can go and read that yourself.

747
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.760
But the excerpt that I pulled out for Peter Wilson

748
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:40.880
shows March thirty first, nineteen ninety six, Peter E. Wilson

749
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:46.000
forty four now he's forty four, also known as hammeld

750
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:50.199
Einen Low, was arrested and later convicted of murdering his

751
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:53.360
landlady hawk Jujen Kim fifty nine. Kim was found dead

752
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:56.280
of massive head wounds on the basement stairs of her home.

753
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:59.320
Now she wasn't found on the basement stairs. I think

754
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.519
we've all as stablished. She was on the basement floor

755
00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:07.320
with a four x twelve placed over her body Wilson.

756
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:11.320
Wilson received a life sentence in prison without the opportunity

757
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:14.559
for parole. Of all of the murder convictions that I

758
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:17.000
looked at on this particular article, it seemed to me

759
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:20.760
that Key, for some reason received the strongest sentence out

760
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:24.480
of any of the other people convicted of murder. Some

761
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:26.599
of them have actually been let out, like the person

762
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:29.280
who you know, they gave him time served after only

763
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.480
five years. You stabbed your family member forty one times

764
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:36.239
and they released you five years later. Hi, oh no,

765
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:38.320
what's going on? Well?

766
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:39.760
True?

767
00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:45.440
I know now that leads us into the YouTube comments,

768
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:48.639
and this is actually coming from someone called miss Vanerak.

769
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:53.639
I had indicated that I would cover these particular comments

770
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:56.760
on the podcast. I don't think that trying to hash

771
00:46:56.880 --> 00:47:01.400
them out via comment sections on a YouTube video has

772
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:05.119
any probative value whatsoever, because so much is lost in context.

773
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:08.480
I offered her to email me and send me some

774
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:11.199
of her solves. She's also working on solves, and I

775
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:13.760
wanted to obviously cover some of those with you, Harriet

776
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:17.440
as well, But I have not received a message back

777
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:19.760
from her, So I guess I'll wait and see and

778
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:21.800
we'll just cover what it is that she's stated so

779
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:26.599
far and see what everyone thinks. So basically, in one comment,

780
00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:28.840
it says, isn't all the Livelong Day? Part of the

781
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.599
lyrics of the creepy stocky song called the Eyes of

782
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:36.440
Texas rhymes which you can never get away. Yes, so,

783
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:41.920
and anyway, I think that we have discussed this, Harriet,

784
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.559
that the all the Livelong Day, That is the working

785
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:48.480
on the Railroad? Right, what is that? I guess the

786
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:49.639
name is the name of that.

787
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:54.719
It's the same exs and I've been working on the

788
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:56.119
railroad or two different songs.

789
00:47:56.719 --> 00:48:00.719
Yeah, but there's lyrics set to the same music of

790
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:01.880
the old folk tune.

791
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:02.679
Right.

792
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:08.239
Well, okay, Well, and we have discussed many times a

793
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:10.639
lot of the references that the Zodiac made in his

794
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:15.639
letters and a lot of the statements that he would make,

795
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:18.599
like all all the Live Long Day. Now I want

796
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:21.039
to say that that was all the Livelong Day? Was

797
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:25.039
that on the Tim Miller letter? Yes, yes, on all

798
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:27.840
the Livelong Day. Yeah, And these are all Texas references,

799
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:31.039
and Jack being from Texas was making him another shoe

800
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:33.800
in for something like that. Well, we're down to the

801
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:36.159
last minute, so I'm going to hold off on trying

802
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:38.199
to climb into these others. These others get a little

803
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.519
bit longer, but they but she is going to continue

804
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:44.000
to talk about Cipher's solves and other things. That I

805
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.679
want to, you know, go over with you, Harriet. Is

806
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:48.400
there anything anybody would like to add?

807
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:55.760
Yeah, both yours. There's like a million dollars or something

808
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:59.440
up in the mid up in Montera, Idaho or something.

809
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.920
There's a book about it, and there's ciphers and there's poems,

810
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:07.199
and my friend that owns old Tavern is trying to

811
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.719
solve it and he wants our help. So we'll talk

812
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:11.960
more about that another time.

813
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:14.920
I think I know what we're talking about. Wasn't it

814
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:19.880
some philanthropist, rich guy like hit it and set up

815
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:23.360
a bunch of different clues and criterias in order to

816
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:23.679
find it.

817
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:27.599
Actually, that's exactly it. And my friend has been working

818
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:29.480
on that for a bit, but he's hit a wall

819
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.800
and I he knows what I do and what you

820
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:36.119
guys do, so he asked to me to ask you

821
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:39.760
guys if be interested helping out, and if we find it,

822
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:41.199
he'd share the wealth. Definitely.

823
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.639
I think that National Treasure is one of my all

824
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:47.000
time favorite movies and I would be totally down. What

825
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:50.480
do you think, Harriet? Oh, let's go okay.

826
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:53.320
I'll talk to me this week and I'll get as

827
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:55.000
much impood as I can and I'll pass it on,

828
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:57.000
all right.

829
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:00.760
All right, you guys, everybody, take care of wonderful weekend

830
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:03.559
and we will see you next all right, take care everybody.

831
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:03.920
Thank you,