No Address Solve by Harriette Sucher

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True seekers and true crime junkies.
Welcome back to another episode of Hit the

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Road Jack Finding the Zodiac. Today, we have an awesome show to share

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with you. Harriet Suchet is here
and Nolan Dell Campbell will be back with

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us here shortly. We're going to
be covering the solves on the Sergeant Lynch

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letter and the no address letters,
So we're going to take you backwards a

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little bit before we move back on
forwards. Some of the things that I

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wanted to share today just before we
get started are a couple of posts by

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person named Jimmy. One of them, he said, what do you think

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of Gary France's post. I'm not
trying to knock down anything you do,

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but if it turns out to be
him, I'm one hundred percent positive that

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you are telling the truth. That's
an interesting statement because I'm not really quite

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sure what to make out of that. Is he's saying that they would be

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pinning it on him as a patsy. I'm not sure, but I know

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I'm doing my best to tell the
truth. So thank you, Jimmy for

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your belief. He also asked,
was Jack's DNA ruled inconclusive? So I

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dug in deep and I found some
information inside of Dewhurst's book. And remember

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he is the person. He is
the professor from Arizona that had a falling

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out with Dennis and had actually absconded
with some of the negatives to the film

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that he was attempting to get processed. He had given half to the FBI

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that he had found in Jack's belongings. He gave the other half to mister

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Dewhurst, and mister Dewhurst in the
end refused to return some of them or

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many of them, I'm assuming at
this point because he found something that he

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wanted to either use in his book
for them, although I did not see

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them in there. So it still
calls into question where these negatives and photographs

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are and what he actually found on
that film At any rate. I did

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find a section his book in regards
the DNA and this is what he has

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to say where things stand now.
On page two seventy five, he says,

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the FBI's public position is that the
Zodiac case is still open, although

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the investigation has been suspended. New
information is being accepted, but there is

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no evidence that they are actively working
on the case. After years of effort,

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the FBI has not been able to
eliminate Jack Terrence from the list of

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Zodiac suspects. After a herculean effort
to develop a DNA profile of Jack Terrence,

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the FBI has been unsuccessful in matching
that profile to any of the Zodiac.

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Evidence DNA extracted from personal letters from
Jack Terrence proved to be sealed with

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someone else's saliva, in fact,
two people's saliva. In two thousand and

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nine, Chris Hopkins told me that
the DNA analysis of letters from Early Night

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from the early nineteen eighties showed that
the letters had been sealed with a mixture

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of saliva from two different men,
neither of whom were related to Jack Terrence.

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That's weird, he said. Long
before the recognition of the power of

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DNA technology, Jack Terrence was sealing
letters to his wife with somebody else's spit.

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Terrence also took pains literally to conceal
his finger prints. About nineteen seventy

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three, Jack supposedly suffered burns to
his hands while opening a hot rate theater,

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destroying his fingerprints. The odd thing
was the pattern of scarring was remarkably

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even and ended with a clean line
at his wrists, like he had dipped

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his hands in acid. At the
time, the San Francisco Police Department was

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claiming that they had a handprint of
the Zodiac. The hood, samples of

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the hood, samples of Jack's handwriting, and the maps which the FBI collected

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from Dennis Kaufman are still in their
possession, and the case against Jack Terrence

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is still open. The hood was
deemed authentic by the FBI lab and the

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material it was made from were available
as early as the nineteen sixties. If

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items collected by the FBI proved not
to be of evidentiary value, they are

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returned to their owners. Dennis Kaufman
has requested return of these materials, and

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the request was declined with the comment
that the case is still open. The

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FBI is never issued an opinion regarding
the handwriting and document commarison between Jack Terrence's

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writing and those of the Zodiac is
the FBI's publicly stated position that they do

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not chase dead people. It is
their policy that if they find that the

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likely perpetrator of a crime is dead, then they will close the case.

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The more than forty homicides I've described
in this book are still unsolved. There

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is no statute of limitations on homicide, so technically the cases are still open.

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Since the FBI does not have an
official serial killer case against the Zodiac,

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then investigation of those cases is the
responsibility of the local law enforcement agencies

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whose jurisdiction the crimes occurred in.
However, since it is clear that Terence's

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activities as a serial killer cross state
lines, it could be within the FBI's

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jurisdiction if they wish to assert it. There is no evidence at this point

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that they do so. Now at
this point, I'd like to bring on

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Nolan and Nolan del Campbell and Harriett
Suchet. Good morning, good morning.

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Do we have Harriet there? Yeah? My system, my system, how

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convenient? Okay, So listen,
did you were you able to hear any

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of that that I talked about on
the DNA all of a sudden for the

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last two minutes, so it went
okay, But yeah, basically, did

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have you read have you read a
du Hurst book? You know? Oh?

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No, now is not the time
for technical difficult days. I'm hearing

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not much from Harriet, I know, are you there, Harriet? I

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know? Okay, yeah, back, it feels like it might be a

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buffering issue or something. Okay.
So did have you read Stephen Dewhurst's book,

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Harriet? Um? Actually, Um, I read most of it,

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but I gave my copy to Dennis
Um. You know about it, I

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think a year before he passed,
So so I did. I did see.

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It talks about the DNA testing of
the envelopes that were given to the

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FBI, which I wasn't under the
impression they had done any testing on because

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the FBI San Francisco PD was supposed
to be the one in control of testing

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that DNA UM but in his book
it indicates that they found that there were

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two DNA samples on the envelopes of
letters that Jack had mailed to Nora,

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and neither of those profiles were Jack's
DNA or related family member, so he

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was literally sealing those envelopes with somebody
else's spit. Well, I do know

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that early on Danny Reynolds partial DNA, which was a huge percentage, like

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forty or forty five, came back
on the back of if I remember correctly,

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the Halloween stamp. Now, what's
going to blow you guys away in

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the near future. I have something
from I think seventy two where Jack is

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saying that he had Danny lick things
for him. Oh, okay, well

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we'll get into nineteen seventy two then. Yeah. So anyway, so I'm

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like, I just keep plodding along
when I do these, and I was

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this is a while ago, but
I said, oh my god, everybody's

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been suspecting that he might have had
somebody else lick twenty six stamps, you

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know whatever. So well, and
obviously that's what they're saying after looking at

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that. At the envelopes that Jack
had mailed to Nora, is that there

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were two different male DNA profiles on
there. And I remember at one point

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in time I had offered to go
down south and obtain the DNA samples of

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both Jack's former wife, Doris Reynolds
and of Danny Reynolds. But that never

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came to fruition. Either way,
it means that Jack was keen to the

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fact that DNA was something that was
actively being researched and looked at, even

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in the night, I think in
the early sixties. Um well, yeah,

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so you know he was. He
was for seeing the future, that's

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why. Um so yeah, I
mean clearly if he is, if he

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well, and we got to remember
too that these letters that were looked that

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were um that had somebody else's DNA
on it. We're also in the nineteen

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eighties, so there's a possibility there
had already been news that there was a

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DNA profile that had been um um
compiled on the zodiac letters to some degree,

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and that that was being to other
Sorry I just lost the screen again

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as something no, but anyway,
he see, well, just like any

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good criminals, stay on top of
all of the techniques that could bust you

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and stay ahead of the game so
that they can't figure it out. All

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right, coming here now, all
right, So we had looked over the

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no address letter, and we had
looked over the deer or the yeah deer

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Sergeant Lynch letter previous two stepping into
the lake, Barry Sam Murders but we're

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gonna go back now, and we're
gonna actually start with the Deer Sergeant Lynch

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letter and the key codes that Harriet
Suchet found. I know that Terry mentioned

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last week, and I know you
didn't see last week's episode, but he

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had mentioned that there could be multiple
key codes out there floating around, and

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depending on which one you applied,
you'd got a different message. But that

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the end user or the person that
these messages were being sent to, would

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have these key codes. I do
find that interesting. Obviously, the CIA

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is using the newspaper to pass message
in as the FBI is aware that people

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are using newspapers and Playboy magazines and
things of this nature to get messages back

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and forth between criminals. So this
is not something shocking that we're saying,

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you know, you guys that the
public has never heard before. The newspapers

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were in great avenue for this stuff, and I have to I have to

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believe that if the FBI knew that
the criminals were using it, the CIA

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was in fact using it, that
the newspapers would have been very well aware

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that their system was being used to
pass message back and forth as in criminals.

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How can everybody know, except for
the end user. Right, all

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right, So I have thrown up
here one of the questions I asked Terry

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last week. I'm going to ask
you the same thing. Why why the

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Zodiac felt the need to send in
a key code two days after the Hardens

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had already solved it? Oh?
My me, because I do it,

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Definitely, I'm an answer. Yeah. That least that because when you see

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the some of the newspaper and they
were, oh my god, how the

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newspapers were relaying the code symbols the
most clearest ones, and I had a

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copy of it was in one of
the main newspapers, like the Valeo one

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those were clear looking symbols, but
the other because they were smudged, they

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weren't the clearest looking symbols. And
the Hardness came up with some fairly clear

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symbols, but their ideas of what
they probably were, you know, which

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they did good. But I'm pretty
sure that that's why he said, Oh,

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well, by the way, let's
send in the rest of the code

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key symbols, the code keys and
these symbols, so you'll be able to

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define my messages better. Gotcha.
So in the Dear Sergeant letter he sent

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in stating that he is providing them
with a key code, which then there

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was a piece of paper that included
the symbols next to the letters, how

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many symbols could be replaced for a
letter, and so forth, So almost

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as if here's the key to figure
out or to solve the very cipher I

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sent you. And and like I
said, it was just a little confusing

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because the Hardens is already solved it
eight days previous. I could tell that

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it was in the newspapers at least
by the ninth of August. So this

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letter being mailed on the tenth had
a completely different agenda. And that's what

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we're going to talk about now.
So the dear lynch you used, you

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used an anagram on this one,
I could show. Let's put this up.

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I think I already I have it. I have it. No,

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this is no. This is my
work that I started out with. I

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tried only taking out the mispelled things, and I tried it even as a

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code keys and then doing it,
and that didn't work. So then I

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started as I went down the list
of So what you're talking about is the

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girl cipher you attempted to really cipher
to it, and that didn't work.

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Yeah, that didn't work. And
then picking out the misspelt words that were

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in this um there sergeant thing.
I thought, well, I can anagram

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something there. That didn't work.
But then I realized, oh, well,

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let's just pick out all the Carmen
phrases that by now I know he'd

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be using in the names. And
that's when it just unfolded in one afternoon

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and I said, oh my god, this is just a freaking anagram the

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whole thing. Fifty five years later, nobody, nobody figured this out.

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Well, now let us let us
remind everybody what it says. It says,

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Dear Sergeant Lynch. I hope the
enclosed key will prove to be beneficial

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to you in connection with the cipher
letter writer. Working puzzles. Cryptograms and

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word puzzles is one of my pleasures. Please forgive the absence of my signature

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or name, as I do not
wish to have my name in the papers

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and it could be mentioned by a
slip of the tongue with best wishes.

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Concerned citizen. So this is one
of the first places we see concerned citizen.

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It's one of the first places we
see them talk about codes and ciphers.

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We see that later in John Walsh's
letters, the Scorpion Letters, where

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he again talks about using these systems
and so have you found cryptograms in these

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particular systems that we that you've solved
the future ones? Okay, yeah,

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definitely in the future ones were puzzles. What does he mean by the other

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puzzles? Mainly the word puzzles like
you brought up about John Walsh and the

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Scorpion cipher. I found the codecise
of those cipher symbols, still using these

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basic ones and then moorphing onwards.
It's kind of hard to explain, but

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I also found standographic code. And
then with the standographic code, you anagram

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also the key word for Jack Torrens's
anagram O you anagram. And you're going

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to get um the correct messages.
But well, and to that, you've

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you've numbered each one of the letters
that were found in the Dear Sergeant lynch

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Um message with a coinciding number.
And that means that below that and the

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second box down here when you place
the actual message, you also placed over

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the top of that the number of
the letter and where you pulled it from

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from the original message. Correct.
Yeah, well, when that's why you

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number it, that's why you've got
all these numbers. You can keep track

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of all the symbols. To me, just all symbols. So um,

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for I can tell you for the
longest time one of the code key name

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phrases, because after a while you
get to see that there's code key names,

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code key phrases. Um. I
knew he was avenging or they were

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avenging Martin Luther King. So that
stayed up in my process for a long

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time. But then I needed the
M and the A and the R,

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and it moved to another section.
So that's why you see the numbers not

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exactly in order, but then I'm
moving them. And then I found it

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was approximately three hundred and three symbols, not including a couple of the dots

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or the periods. So I don't
watch people because I said, that's really

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all I need to need to have. And so I read the completed message,

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the more cleaned up version. That's
what I'm trying to get to.

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Okay, I happened. Okay,
there it is. I left out the

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word. I was wondering why did
he have the words puzzle twice? Because

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there was nothing that I could come
out and find. But once I worked

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my way down, I said,
oh my god. He's saying to place

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the things the zodiac letters over the
puzzle, to crunch up the three parts

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cipher and put it on one page, which talks too what I've been doing

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for five years. So anyways,
let me read it. It says PI

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Private Investigator Lynch, which, by
the way, he was a private investigator

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at the time. Also, if
I recall correctly reading his bio. So

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anyways, private Investigator Lynch, we
Avenge, World War two, Kennedy's bobbies,

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Marilyn Monroe. FYI for your information, combine newspaper code puzzle sections together,

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Place zodiac in parentheses, letter over
it, watch for misspelt word or

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words, odd punctuation, meet code
symbolsot, choose which key that anagram to

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solve puzzle, Thus witnessing one get
at pre future before eyes the zodiac do

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his thing. I E therefore to
die, he said, Who's going to

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die next? Is Brian Hartnell,
Cecilia Sheppard, Paul Stein Nurse, last

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Wisconsin International Brotherhood, Teamster Union,
mister Hoffa. But usually he'll spill out

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all of Teamsters and Union in these, but sometimes it's just ibtu, but

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that's that's pretty much what it's saying. And in the future, that's what

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he's saying, who's going to to
die. But of course Brian Hartnell did

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survive. But the tech was I
think a month after this particular letter of

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September twenty sixth I remember, right
sixty nine, Yes, okay, yes,

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it was more than a month afterwards. So the fact that he is

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now telling whomever at this point that
his next victims are in fact these individuals,

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and we do know that, um, everybody was attacked, with the

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exception of last going missing, so
nobody really truly knows what happened there.

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But we've seen Wisconsin International Brotherhood come
up more than once. Right, Oh

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yeah, definitely, he really they
it's not just really him, but he

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really hates half I noticed when he
was really really is half of the union

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head for the wis Jimmy disappearing.
Oh my god. His main spot was

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Detroit. He started Detroit, but
the team's jursey nationwide. He was the

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head of the entire union over the
whole country. So Wisconsin's right next to

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Michigan. So but he started in
Michigan. Detroit MM hmmm, gotcha.

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I think that was they were going
to try to take him out in Wisconsin.

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Um. He does say later on
where it's not exactly him, but

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he's involved. Who killed him.
He says his Frank Sheeran did kill him.

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But um, but the body went
other places and we can cover that

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later. But okay, but they
did definitely check Wisconsin a lot in the

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last fifty years, and a lot
of people have linked Kafa to the jfk

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assassination. Definitely, that's why they're
going after him, because he's saying that

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they believe that he and Sam g
and Connor were the two key co conspirators

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and then you know, got these
people to do their biddings for them.

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So yeah, that's all. So
let's focus on the fact that it's this

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is at this so now this makes
sense. So we have the hardened solve

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the gist or the basic premise of
this message, which is probably what he

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wanted the public to see. But
then, like as you said, um,

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let putting the zodiac letter over it
and watch for misspelt words, words,

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odd punctuation, and then meet the
code symbols. Choose which key than

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anagram to solve the puzzle. That's
exactly what you've done here with this particular

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Oh, this was an anagram.
Sorry, when we get to the next

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no address letter, you use the
method that he's talking about here with that

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letter. Correct. Yes, absolutely
astonishing, because Terry said the same thing

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last week. He said, you're
looking for misspelt words, odd punctuation,

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things of that nature that would draw
you to that area or section of the

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particular communication. So we're going to
continue on now with the oh. I

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did have one other because this backed
us up to the original three letters that

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were sent with the three part codes, and you actually had a solve with

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just the portion of the Z four
oh eight over the top of the San

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Francisco Chronicle letter that had the portion
of the Z four o eight correct.

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Yeah, something like that. So
well, this one, i'd hear it's

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um because I was able to number
the lines and I didn't do the time

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or the zodiac symbol on that one. But this wasn't came out good enough,

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and I put it in the book
because I was this one I believe

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was my eighth one, the eighth
one that I had just did. Because

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let's just backpack for just a few
seconds. I'd watched them the History channels

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Hunt for the Zodiac, and they
were saying that they thought that the Z

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three forty, which was coming in
the future, was something like a grill

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cipher or a chessboard cipher that went
on top of something. So that's when

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I started saying, well, let's
see, but if it's going to work,

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and that's where this came up.
I said, if this is working,

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if I take the Z three forty
and put it on top of the

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Z board to wait and get something
unusual, which I don't have it with

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me, but basically it stated it
says, my name is Jack, asked

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Jeff government, but an abbreviation for
government. So I figured I got a

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message there. I started doing the
letters and this is I believe my eighth

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one, the one that in the
book so and this one is saying r

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K die now Paul s in to
Paul s two in North San Francisco Presidio,

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or like you had spelt it all
out, was Robert Kennedy die now

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Paul Stein to die in North San
Francisco Procidio. Yeah, so again he's

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predicting who's coming next, just like
the FBI said. I found that astonishing

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because as we started working these together, and every time I would give you

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a new letter, it low and
behold actually yielded the individual's name that was

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about to die, who hadn't died
yet but was up and coming. Yeah.

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And the first the first page is
I think the seventh or the eighth

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one. It's where it's stating where
he's saying, so I like killing people

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because it is polka dot dress Farren
hit him right, Temple Roberts. I

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think we're coming up to that one. Hold on, that's that's okay,

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I think, yeah, I think
that's part of the no address yea,

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this is the yeah part of the
no address lay. So you read him

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on to that way it's a message, um, so we can come up

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with the third part. The message
actually completes it. So on the first

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page you had an assault just with
the first page, right, yeah,

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on the on the no address letter, and do you want me to read

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that or do you want to read
it? Um? It's it came up

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with SFPD. It's Jack Walker,
Tarrence Mazoe. I think I had an

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MM that I found somewhere, but
anyways, that would be Mike Maso.

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See some of me but that he's
stating that he's not in the police lineup.

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So he's saying that Maso did see
him shooting, you know, off

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to the side, like partial because
he was yes the story as he was

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using a flashlight and you know,
I couldn't see all of it. But

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so he's saying he's not in the
lineup, but he's saying the Joe did

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see him. Now he also I
also note that see some of me is

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I think a phrase that we saw
in the Lipstick Killer program by um swearing

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him correct, and I believe that
in Tim Miller's letter as well, he

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said see see some see more of
me or it's a very familiar statement.

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I feel like I'm getting goosebumps right
now because I've heard it in more than

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one well communication, he's this,
when you complete the all of them together.

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Well, let's hold on. I'm
moving on the page. It's meant

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for Nixon. It's the whole message. Yes, and I have that one

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at the end, which is the
complete message. I hope she throwze up

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on me again. Oh no,
are you still there? I see her,

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but I can't hear. She's not
moving. I know they her.

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They froze her in place. My
cat, come back, Harriet, come

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back. Oh, I hope her
system didn't crash again. Move your head

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here, can you hear us?
Well, we wouldn't know if she could.

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Well, I'm going to continue on
and hope she figures this out.

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I have a quick question, Yeah, yeah, what the hell did Paul

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Stein have to do with anything?
Out of all the Zodiac killings? He

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seemed so odd. He was a
graduate student driving a cab to pay for

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college that he was gonna get his
master's, become a writer or a teacher

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or whatever, and he seems so
random. I think, well, I'm

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the cab driver. Is our part
of the union at this time? Right?

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Perhaps? Yeah? And we also
saw what it was, Yeah,

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it was yellow cab. Um.
I think that Harriet does have the answer

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for that. She does believe that
he has some type of um. She

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believes that there's some type of involvement
with the death of m R. Robert

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Kennedy. Yeah, yeah, um, so maybe he's the cab driver that

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drove somebody, you know it involved. I don't know. Um. In

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fact, that'll be a great question
when she comes back on. It looks

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to me like she had to reset
and She's probably trying to reclimb back onto

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UM the show because her picture's gone
now. Um, so I'm thinking that

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that crashed once again. But here's
the letter. Um, this is the

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second page of the no address letter
where she said where the salve that she

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came or got from? This particular
page said, so I killing people because

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it is polka dot address. Farren
hit him rt R Senior ICU U And

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so basically that is supposed to amount
to, so, I like killing people

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because it is polka dot address,
polka dot dress. Farren hit him Robert

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Kennedy Senior Right Temple UM Intensive Carry
Unit. So he believes that's yeah,

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that's definitely JAF Robert F. Kennedy
assassination. There's lots of people that saw

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a woman in a polka dot dress
whist her hands her hand on the night

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of the assassination of RFK the Ambassador
Hotel in La Oh. Now, is

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there any sighting of her at the
hospital? No? Gotcha so well,

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And I can't imagine she would have
been dressed in that same polka dot address

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at the hospital. She's likely,
Um, I think she believes that Oh

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there she is, ye, asked
Carrie you're back. Yeah, No,

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one's got some questions for you,
Harriet. Why Paul starring? It seems

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so odd that he's in this whole
mess. Second, dot dress reference is

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definitely about the woman that was alleged
to be Do you have been seen with

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sir hands? Her hand denied the
assassination of Marf k Let's address the Paul

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Stein question? First, what is
your belief there? Looks like she froze

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again? Are you still there here? Hold on a second? Oh god,

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well only twenty okay, So why
is he in? Well, Polka

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dot dress reference is um. When
I say that, I said, Harriet,

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Harriet, can you hear us?
Yeah? Okay, you're Paul Stein.

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He asked why you believe Paul Stein
was baul He's saying that UM and

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other songs that I have that Paul
Stein was helping Darlene Farren um to to

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to kill other people, to kill
um, well, mainly Bobby Kennedy.

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So Paul's Paul Stein is um like
a like a broker in between Haffa and

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Darlene Farren to get things in motion, and um that he helped all the

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driver. But what if he's just
the driver? Yeah, like like something

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like a driver but also had Um, I think, um, goddard the

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gun, you know, um,
because that's future solves to come up with,

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but you know, to do.
But so he's um, he's just

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like a he's a go between between
Haffa and Farren and um, you know

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he I guess, I guess it
was the way he made his living,

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you know, taxi driver by day. Hey, but you know, hey,

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I got the gun here, you
give me five brand for it,

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you know, um, and give
it to somebody else. So does that

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answer your question? No? One, Yeah, it seems still still so,

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I mean kind of odd. I
don't know, so anyway I have

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Yeah, Well he's still I don't
know. I don't I don't know if

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he had the ability to predetermine who
would pick him up. Um didn't he

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make a call obviously for the cab
or how did that work out? Um,

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I'm going to probably make a few
people down in San Francisco angry.

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But um, it looks like um
since Alioto mayor Aloto at the time,

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which you know, has his mob
ties. U was also a Catholic.

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Was also a very big fan of
you know, the Kennedy's, I mean

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a lot of people were, Um, he was also the mayor's office in

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that building. If you had to
get your contract or your approval to be

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a taxi driver, you had to
go through that section, that office,

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and that building. So it looks
like it was just you know, the

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possibilities that since Stein was new to
working for the taxi company, that it

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was a set up to help get
him the job. And then where he's

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shot is just I think, blocks
from Mayor Aliotto's home. So yeah,

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they were really apparently a lot of
people intent, in my view, going

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through Jack's world, intent on getting
the people that killed the Kennedy's. I

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mean, they were just down with
them. So I guess the backstory could

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be that he was just simply a
hardworking individual trying to obtain his master's degree.

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But everything she said is plausible,
I think, Nolan, I mean

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literally, he could have been given
that job specifically for this task. Um,

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we know that nothing that the Zodiac
did was random. All of everything

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and what he did was intended,
and he predicted these planned he predicted these

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crimes, So um, maybe maybe
what she's saying is right. Who knows,

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who knows. My basic take is
that up until then, the San

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Francisco cops weren't really that heavily involved
in the investigation because none of the killians

406
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:38.599
had taken place in San Francisco,
correct, But the newspapers were heavily involved,

407
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:45.840
and the FBI and whatnot. But
I think my take is that he

408
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:51.320
might have done this to get a
different jurisdiction involved, so that there's competing

409
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:55.280
jurisdictions and all, you know,
not sharing information with each other, and

410
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:05.880
right only Big Jim of Zodiac that
we know of anyway, that was But

411
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.920
yet Sanrancisco pretty much took over the
whole investigation, which was all And I

412
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:14.480
do know that the no address letter
kind of sent him into a frenzy because

413
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.519
they accused him of not being sportsmanlike
in his attempt to shoot or kill,

414
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:22.480
or that he was less than uh
trained for what he was doing, and

415
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.599
he wanted to prove that he was. Also, I think they had made

416
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:31.920
statements that his act of killing young
couples m was kind of um chicken shit

417
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:37.199
if I say that, sorry people. And I think that that's why he

418
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:40.800
went after I thought initially that's why
he went after the loan strange male.

419
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:45.440
Now he's going to you know,
hunt and kill somebody of his own stature

420
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:51.519
so that it isn't perceived that he's
just attempting to attack kids. But again,

421
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:53.679
there's just so many different ways about
that. It was it was the

422
00:35:53.760 --> 00:36:00.800
story that sold the newspapers. There. It looks like Jack is saying,

423
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:04.320
well, there's so much involved here, and it goes all the way back

424
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:07.679
to the White House, the current
White House, So they're gonna love me

425
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:13.800
now, but you know, I
mean, and so it was an it

426
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:17.320
looks like it was an operation to
just really because they were done with these

427
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:22.360
people and they were seeing how out
of control they were. And now Nixon,

428
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:24.599
who by all accounts and I think
Nolan will Reid did not like the

429
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:30.039
Kennedy's now has a bulls eye on
his forehead, and these people kill presidents.

430
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:34.880
So they were just we're going to
go get these people, and we're

431
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:39.679
going to do our best to create
a smoke screen so they could get Hafa

432
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:45.199
and Gie and Conna and all the
ones underneath that they had to get until

433
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:51.960
they got the two finally under four. Let me make another point about Paul

434
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:58.599
Starn that relates to RFK and then
actually relates to Manson. Okay, the

435
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:04.119
police port that went out right after
the Paul Stein murder was that it was

436
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.000
done by a black guy, when
when the people had phoned in now they

437
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.719
said it was a white mail.
But for some reason it went out over

438
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:16.599
the police radio the suspect was black. So therefore the suspect by right by

439
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:22.000
two cops on his way to the
park in the Presidium and made his getaway.

440
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:29.119
He walked right by, and in
Manson they kept gaming the murders,

441
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:34.639
or they tried to frame the Black
Panthers for for the killings the Manson clan

442
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:39.440
did. Then if you look at
the police response in the RFK, it

443
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:44.079
went out right away by the main
cop that was there, the only cop

444
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:46.880
that was at the Ambassador Hotel.
They didn't have any cops there, despite

445
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:52.599
the factors they had all these primaries. It wasn't just RFK, there were

446
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:57.880
other elected officials running in different parties
going on, but no LA cops at

447
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:04.599
the Ambassador Hotel. So the one
cop that's there outside, yeah, encounters

448
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.440
two older people who say there's a
woman in a polka dot dress that just

449
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:13.440
say we've shot him. We knew, oh the senator, we got him.

450
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:17.719
Boom, and they run off and
this cop puts that out over APB

451
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.559
to dispatch, and then about an
hour later they kill that. Yes,

452
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:30.800
those people so well, I'd like
to say something about Bolstein and in RFK

453
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:36.079
are similar. It's disinformation exactly.
Well, the Polka dot dress reference.

454
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:39.840
Once I saw that, Um,
there's a book. Oh so we were

455
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:44.800
just getting to that, and I
just told the Polica I was so that's

456
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:47.440
the solve on the second page of
the no address letter. I explained to

457
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:51.480
them, said, so I like
killing people because it is polka dot dress.

458
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:55.480
Barron hit him Robert Kennedy Senior,
Right Temple Intensive Care Unit. So

459
00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:04.079
did he did she attack him at
the hospital? The hospital gotcha um And

460
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:10.000
And let's just note that um even
Robert F. Kennedy Junior says that the

461
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:16.800
bullets that they found for the autopsy
don't match the holes in his father's head.

462
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:22.280
That we're in the right Temple,
like something else happened after he got

463
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:27.440
into the ICU. So you have
a family member stating that I haven't believed

464
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:32.599
that Sir Concern is the main killer. I think is probably involved somewhere,

465
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:42.239
but he's not the one who killed
um Jack and his He shot a guns

466
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:45.800
at night, but no, Robert
Kennedy was killed from a point black rage

467
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:52.440
right behind the ear. Oh is
that me or you? Okay? Anyways,

468
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.360
but but quick, I don't know
about the polka dot dress once I

469
00:39:55.400 --> 00:40:00.119
saw that, because there's a book
out there. Um it's called Project Artichoke,

470
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:05.039
and I bought it and I got
it somewhere. Anyways, it's by

471
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:09.280
David Sylvie and he dies just before
the book came out. The rest of

472
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:15.000
the way. But he's stating what
a lot of people have said that there's

473
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:21.679
that they believed Darlene Farren was the
one in the polka dot dress and that

474
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:28.239
Project Artichoke was zodiac um to go
after those who had to do with the

475
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:31.800
death of Bobby Kennedy. There's a
book out there on this and Artichoke actually

476
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:37.039
um is right before mk ultra right, so think bird, paper Clip,

477
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:47.239
Artichoke mk ultra. Yeah, so
Lpro another yeah right right. Th Pro

478
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:52.880
was on Martin Luther King. Yeah, it was all it was all domestic

479
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:59.719
spying and infiltration and whatnot. Well, that brings us to the third page

480
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:01.800
of the no Address letter. Here
we can see some of the work that

481
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:07.440
Harriet has been doing where she is
has laid the girl cipher over the top

482
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:15.079
of it, and has um pulled
out those particular misspellings and labeled them with

483
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:22.239
correct or coinciding symbols correct. Yeah, So I and this is kind of

484
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:28.000
what here we're looking at. Where
you found those particular letters in which row

485
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:32.480
in which line? Yeah, and
I thought I messed up where it says

486
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:39.039
at the bottom where it's saying gets
in row seventeen. But that's actually should

487
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:45.519
leave because that was a code key
phrase that I saw get even. Once

488
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.599
I saw that, I says,
Okay, he's gonna say something about getting

489
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:52.840
even, and and he did.
He's saying they're gonna get hop on all

490
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:57.119
kinds of things. But shall I
read it? Yes, Actually, let's

491
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:04.719
go ahead. Okay, So it
says um, Richard Nixon. Now this

492
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.239
is all three pages together, right
or is this just the last page?

493
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:12.360
This is the last page, but
all together it's going to be a message,

494
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.840
you know, for Nixon. And
but anyways, the same, just

495
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.960
this third page. Richard Nixon,
I owe his favorite Latin phrase, and

496
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:24.079
for him it means years of documents
and order. We got a process going,

497
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:29.840
and we've done something. Now it
says, uh m oh, monus

498
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:35.840
operande, bum Jimmy Hoffa, send
Darlene Farren to hit Attorney General Robert Kennedy.

499
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:43.880
Oh I e therefore modus operande,
I'll get even a s ob Stein

500
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:49.199
in San Francisco. So that's what
it's reading out. As he can be

501
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:54.320
pretty expressive in these anagrams, you
know, where you're deconing, trying to

502
00:42:54.599 --> 00:43:00.159
contribute with the messages, and it's
not really spelling out Richard Nicks and in

503
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:05.480
this saying our end. But then
you know he uses a lot of Latin

504
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:10.719
and his favorite again io and m
O are some of his favorite Latin phrases.

505
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.039
But anyways, that's pretty much when
it says. And then if you

506
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:19.920
put it all together, he's the
whole thing is a message for him for

507
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:27.400
Richard Nixon and can you so Darlene
Farren so last plays into this because Darlene

508
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:34.719
Farren purportedly used Donna Lass's nurses credentials
to get into the hospital to make sure

509
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:38.239
that RFK was finished off, because
he was alive when he got to the

510
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:43.159
hospital, right, yeah, he
had even stated as he was leaving,

511
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:46.079
you know, after I got shot, is everybody okay? And then he

512
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:54.239
survives the surgery, but he doesn't
survive the ICU. That's something I remember

513
00:43:54.599 --> 00:44:00.119
Kennedy Junior talks about to this very
day. So, UM, go ahead,

514
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:05.760
Nolan, do we have a picture
of Darlan Farren Because the girl of

515
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:10.559
a polka dot dress is described by
several people she's shapely, nicely figured,

516
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:16.679
um young, but they say she
has a funny kind of nose. So

517
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:22.239
I sure of her. Let oh, I wish I could dig that one

518
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:27.400
up because I found right now.
I was just gonna say, um,

519
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:30.559
let me see also if I can, I know that I have one from

520
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:36.760
um we got about five minutes here, but let me see if I can

521
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:44.400
find one to throw up Dan Farren. All I know is one of the

522
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:49.559
descriptions of her at some early descriptions
I was able to find, but I

523
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:53.480
can't find it now five years later, was she had this kind of bun

524
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:59.280
on the top and you know,
similar to where you see her. She

525
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:07.760
looks like she'd be shapely. Yeah, yeah, interesting right, yeah,

526
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:15.320
and she's young, she's fitting m
Darline Farren is also um uh. Sandy

527
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:21.679
Betts had indicated that she ran in
the same circles of money launderers, drug

528
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:29.199
running, and people from Chicago,
anterfitters involved with counterfeiters. Correct, and

529
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:36.000
Sandy Betts had actually been implicated or
or questioned by the FBI and two different

530
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:39.639
counterfeiting rings because she was circling the
same people and dating the same people that

531
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:45.559
Darline Farren was. So we are
seeing some definite mob connection there, and

532
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:52.119
she was purportedly spending some of that
counterfeit money or playing with some of that

533
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:54.679
counterfeit money talking too much. Um, there were a whole lot of reasons

534
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:59.159
I would think people would want to
take her out if she was exposing them

535
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:04.599
too much. Yeah, that would
link her, because that's HAFA is doing

536
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:13.039
the money laundering through state line in
those areas. So you know this after

537
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:16.159
all these years, you can draw
the links to get there, right,

538
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:23.119
And Darling Ferren would have been twenty
two at the time of the r right

539
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:34.840
and young young just like they said, Um, so description as generic as

540
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:38.199
it is, Yes, she does. And she did ultimately become a victim

541
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:42.719
of the Zodiac. And we do
know that the Zodiac clearly was not just

542
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:46.400
some random killer out there on a
spree. Though I think that he continued

543
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:51.960
killing and maybe because just like Harriet
said, he did his job and taking

544
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:55.719
out these people responsible for the Kennedy's
and Martin Luther King and all of this

545
00:46:55.840 --> 00:47:00.880
other stuff, and then he's left
out in Nicole did not pay. Yeah,

546
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:05.840
I'm playing out in the seventies,
he's a very upset, and in

547
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:08.320
two thousand and one he's really fissed. Okay, we'll get there sometimes,

548
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:13.280
and the power has changed hands several
times, so those that were over the

549
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:16.039
top of him to begin with,
like Richard Nixon or Eisenhower or what have

550
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:22.519
you? Um? All right,
right, and all of those people track

551
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:27.280
back to the Family. Have you
seen that yet on Netflix? The Family?

552
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:38.639
I still don't have Netflix. The
Family means so much more to me

553
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:43.440
now than it ever did before.
Obviously after watching that, that is just

554
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:47.119
basically one of your I see that
Terry b is Terry is trying to make

555
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:51.039
some comments here, and I want
to see if I can figure out what

556
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:53.880
they are real quick. So let's
see. Cab drivers were in a position

557
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:59.199
to link their fares to nefarious sources
like drugs, booze, prostitutes, etc.

558
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:04.840
Facelifts, plastic surgery, as in
the nineteen forties Bogart movie Dark Passage.

559
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:08.719
Dark Passage took place in San Francisco
as well. Jurisdiction change. That

560
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:14.239
makes sense, Nolan, So he's
responding, I think JT ducked into a

561
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:19.199
high end house after Stein's hit.
Probably not the presidio in Concart might be.

562
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:25.039
It might have been Aloto's. You
know what's really funny is that the

563
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:30.480
Gal Moonlight that I've been dealing with, she had indicated that the houses that

564
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:35.400
Jack had actually rented or listed in
his paperwork that I have him for in

565
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:39.159
San Francisco and in Berkeley, these
were all very large, four thousand,

566
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:45.159
five thousand square foot homes, very
nice areas. So yes, him ducking

567
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:52.840
into a high influential location would likely
be his getaway, and the cops shop

568
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:55.639
obviously helped him to do that by
calling out for a black man instead of

569
00:48:55.679 --> 00:49:00.000
a white man so that he could
make his way right on through and get

570
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:06.800
out. The CIA had safe houses, the guy named George White, Yes,

571
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:13.320
m yeah, they were so,
they had places in San Francisco was

572
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:16.559
one of the San Francisco, New
York and other places. But those the

573
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:23.559
two main areas that lots of mind
control experiments. Jack's residences after he came

574
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:28.679
back from Japan in nineteen fifty nine
and got released early from the military.

575
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:32.239
I believe so that he continued could
continue with the mk Ultra project. Both

576
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:39.159
of his residences afterwards were within miles
miles, not tens of twenty miles,

577
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:44.679
but like within seven eight miles of
these safe houses that are involved with the

578
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:50.440
mk Ultra project. He was definitely
right around the corner basically, and again

579
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:57.199
four thousand and five thousand square foot
homes in very nice areas. Yepkay,

580
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.639
well mean that is it? Actually, if you you guys want to wrap

581
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:02.599
it up really quick, this is
our first I'm just here. I just

582
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.199
want to state if people want to
get more information. I do run the

583
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:12.280
blog dB Coopersolved dot com and there's
so many blogs under that that has a

584
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:17.280
lot of decodings like this that help
get people. I try to walk them

585
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:22.239
through how it's done from the people
stay A, Dabs, nineties, etc.

586
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:25.440
Okay, is there anything else from
you, Nolan? I'm good to

587
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.199
go. Awest of you guys,
thank you for a wonderful show of a

588
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:32.440
great weekend, and we'll see you
next Friday. Thank you, good,

589
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:37.039
thank you, thank you. Byeye
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