Dec. 13, 2024

1979 is a Busy Year of Unsolved Murders

1979 is a Busy Year of Unsolved Murders

Jack has moved into a trailer park in California in 1979 with family in tow. Dennis describes the mobile home as a cramping experience that Jack preferred to be away from. That would certainly cramp any serial killer’s style, but Jack found a way...

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Jack has moved into a trailer park in California in 1979 with family in tow. Dennis describes the mobile home as a cramping experience that Jack preferred to be away from. That would certainly cramp any serial killer’s style, but Jack found a way around this. As the murders in California begin again, the Atlanta Georgia Child Killer murders begin where communications are received by media and Law Enforcement once again.

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Good morning, True Seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Road Jack Finding the

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Zodiac to welcome Harriet Soochet to the show this morning.

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Yes, very good morning. Is happy Fridays of thirteenth?

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Oh it is? That's right.

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Okay, So we have some great Friday the thirteenth news

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for you today. It might even almost sound like we

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meant this, but a whole lot going on in the

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Zodiac rom these days. I'm finding things, Harriet's finding things.

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I'm extremely excited to share all of this with you

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guys this morning. I had a couple of people reach

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out to me this last week, one on YouTube and

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one on the radio website that we have through this

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particular podcast, and.

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I'm going to start actually with David Via.

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I was contacted by him back when I initially started

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the podcast. He is with San Joaquin Valley Transparency. He

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is the record Police Now type person, and I just

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want to give him a shout out because he's out

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there looking out for the protection of the public while

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reminding the cops what their job is and how to

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do it the right way.

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I think it's great.

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I spoke with him for about three hours on the

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phone yesterday after he had sent a message that said,

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been following you for years. A couple of years ago,

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I was happy to see you post the documentary with

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Dennis Kaufman my YouTube channel took off. He completely believes

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in government accountability.

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I believe is what the sentence was supposed to say.

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And he just wanted to say that I've brought the

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most compelling evidence of anyone that he has seen in

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the Zodiac case. And that's a huge shout out because

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this is what I've been trying to tell people for

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oh so long. All these other suspects that are out

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there don't seem to have quite the amount of evidence

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that would support that they were capable or had the

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experience necessary to pull off what was.

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Going on in the Zodiac killer cases. I know that.

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I talked with you, Harriet a little bit yesterday about

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David and some of the things that he thought he

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could do to help boost the channel. When I first

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came out with podcast, he literally sent dozens of people

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from his own channel to come and check out the podcast,

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which I thought was fabulous because he initially helped me

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to start building that subscriber list. I really appreciate it, David,

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and I look forward to working with you, and I

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do believe the accountability and transparency is really what we're

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all looking for as a society. The next person who

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reached out to me, he has ed Edwards ciphers. Now,

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one of the questions, well, we'll get to that. Hold on, Harriet,

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I know you're going to have all kinds of words

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because as I'm looking at these particular YouTube messages, I

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receive a solve from Harriet, and you actually mentioned Ed Edwards.

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Now I don't want to get into the stall just yet,

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but you do believe that he's involved with this group.

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Correct, He's not involved with Jack Sides. His crew are

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calling him the shitty side.

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So oh okay, I guess I just saw the name

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and went, what the heck is going on?

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Today. I've said this many times.

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I'm busy doing my research, Harriet's busy doing her solves,

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and we come together once a week to say, hey,

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what do you got? What am I going to add

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into the podcast? And it's been several times that we've

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actually stumbled across the same information.

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Yeah, very kism, that's what they call it, pretty much.

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I think I even used that word yesterday.

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So ed Edward Seipher says on YouTube, curious about what

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information you have on Tim Miller and those letters he received.

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I'd be interested to see if you have more content

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on that. I never knew you had a YouTube channel.

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Congratulations on it. And then Alinda s n MacB also

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said same as I was curious about this as well.

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We are going to climb into the Tim Miller letters

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in the very beginning of.

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The podcast we start.

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I'd started with them to show one of the types

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of samples that we'd be looking at, which was these

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cutout letters using magazines and newspapers.

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Now, you have not done a solve on Tim Miller yet? Correct?

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Oh yes, I am. I done a huge one. That's

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how Connor I could say, in a weird way, they're

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actually tiny bit correct. Because that style that Jack used

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is also used in parts of the Ghost Killer letter.

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We had him well, So I responded to him and

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I let him know that, yes, I have had interactions

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with Tim Miller.

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He's come out here and visited Dennis and I.

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Dennis went back and visited him in Texas, and then

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he sent his private investigator out at some point, and

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I did do an examination on the handwriting of the

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suspect he believed that it was. He also took a

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civil lawsuit out against the man. I think he was

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awarded something like fourteen million dollars, which might have made

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him felt pretty good at the time, though I highly

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doubt he's ever going to be able to collect the

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dime of it. He did ultimately call me about a

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month after I started the podcast to ask me once

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again whether or not I believe that Jack Terrence was

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the Zodiac, which I then affirmed. And I still have

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not been able to get him back on the phone since.

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But I'm hoping by the time we get to nineteen

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or I'm sorry, two thousand and six, and even nineteen

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eighty four, when we begin talking about the death of

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his daughter, Laura Miller, I know that Harriet, you have

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a lot of information on that from the solves that

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you believe that has worked out of messages, and we'll

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be talking about that as well. He said he wasn't

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wasn't familiar with the terms at all. Because I asked him,

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do you have handwriting on ed Edwards? He said, I'm

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afraid I don't have a strong background in law enforcement.

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I suspect Edwards in several crimes, but I don't suspect

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him because of handwriting. Directly. I look for cipher's. Well,

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cipher's are handwritten, so I was really kind of confused

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about that. I would be interested in taking a look

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at his handwriting and comparing them, he says, of which

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I've been I've found several, hence the name. I believe

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someone who was familiar with the zodiac wrote letters to

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Tim Miller and less ciphers and both letters that were

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sent to him. Yet, yes, if that's what you're asking,

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Apologies if I did not understand directly directly what you

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were asking. Now, we first need to understand that Tim

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Miller only received one letter. I did receive two versions

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of it from somebody who slid into my emails and

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slid back out after he dropped him off. The FBI

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did attempt to trace this individual, and we are no

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longer seeing these images online anymore. When I spoke with

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Tim Miller about it, all he had received was the

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cutout version. It looks like somebody then turned around and

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traced that cutout version with handwriting, and that was the

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second version that I saw. But since I cannot source it.

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Even though we know that the Zodiac would at times

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write two and three versions of the same exact letter,

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and we're going to get into one of those today,

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I have no source or knowledge that that particular handwritten

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version was done by the Zodiac. So he went on

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to say the sorry, I didn't understand what you meant

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by this in your other post. I read that first one.

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I have no work that corroborates Edwards connect to that case,

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and I'm thinking he's talking about Tim Miller's. He says,

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I believe Detective John Cameron made that claim. Do you

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know who John Cameron is?

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Harriet?

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No, but the name sounds familiar. When you do what

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I do, I read really quick and gloss sober names.

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So right, right, yeah, because he says it sounds.

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He says it sounds good and adds to the lure

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of confusion around edwards depending on how one looks at it.

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I do not have any detection of a cipher in

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that case or cases if one exists, perhaps there is,

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I do not know. Always a good thing when progress

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is made on cases. Let's keep our fingers crossed. So

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I will be taking a look at the solve. I'm

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not sure if you've already sent that to me on

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Tim Miller's letter or not, but I will take a

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look at it. And I told him that I would

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maybe even possibly put you to in contact with each other,

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because he's obviously chasing this cipher.

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Scheme as well.

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And I don't know if that means he knows how

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to do ciphers, but maybe you guys can kind of

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like you know, Coharts and crime in the cipher area.

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We shall so, okay, go ahead, no, I said, we

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shall see. You know this is every time I do

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a cipher or you'd send me a request and I'm like, oh,

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I didn't do this one before. It takes off into

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another direction, but it always circles back to Jack.

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And his crew, and that's what I'm seeing.

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It's interesting to note that again, each time a solve

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is made in one of these communications, that it is

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perfectly fitting with the time frame, either the politics or

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the mob or whatever's going on at that time, or

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maybe even the prediction factor that the FBI talks about

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that is going to lead us to the next crime

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that's going to be committed by this group. Now, before

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we get into anything else, I want to always talk about.

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Freedom of speech.

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And I'm going to do a rant here in a second,

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but I kind of want to give you guys some

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background on why this rent didn't go off last week.

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YouTube is obviously eitherir AI or whoever is is deciding

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what words that we can use in our podcast, And

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albeit I use all the words, lucky enough to not

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have caused one of those strikes, but I'm going to

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do my best to kind of steer away from words,

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find other words like they said, that you can use

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that won't set off AI or cause any issues. I mean,

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even with Facebook this last week, they threw up a

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memory This is my three year anniversary. Basically about three

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days ago is when I started this podcast three years ago,

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and Facebook threw up now and then memory. So I

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went ahead and I posted this new statement from David

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Villa next to the very first episode that was played

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on the podcast, and I sent it up as a

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short story, and of course I was immediately blocked by Facebook.

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They told me I was violating community standards by attempting

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to send people to other places for clicks. And the

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audacity of these people because they're the ones that sent

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me then, now and then you didn't want me to

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post it now and then, why would you send it

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to me? And that's not unlike other areas where I

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have reposted something that had come across my Facebook pete

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from my Facebook page that people had sent in. I

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reposted it and then got a warning once again that

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I was violating some community standards, which again isn't the

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person who initially posted it the person who's violating. I

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just giggled, laughed, and hit repost.

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Again, not fishing for a reason to get you geez.

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Sometimes that's how I feel.

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I mean, it's like the one time I got the

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stroke or not a strike necessarily, but the warning from

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YouTube in regards to mentioning the word suicide on my show,

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and it turned out it was twenty five seconds in.

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It was Dean Pipeman Dean the pipe Man's disclosure for

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my podcast, and he hadn't even mentioned any of those words,

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was a little bit off putting. There we go, and

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banned from YouTube. But my rant was actually bit based

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on dealing with a lot of my Democratic friends over

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my vacation in Ireland and the disbelief that their choices

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or choices do. We just saw Biden become that political

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figure that Dems despise and the reps while despising the

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new president. At the same time, he swore he wasn't

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going to pardon his son, but he did in fact

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all the way back to twenty fourteen, Which what has

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this kid been up to that.

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He needs a pardon back ten years? Are anything he's done?

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and this was wrong. He actually pardoned and I'll say

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really quick a Chinese communist national. But if you read

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the rest, it's to kick him out of the country.

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That he commuted his sentence and the kick out of

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the country and everything that he owns hereies to relinquish.

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All is right, So I had to, I said, I

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can believe that I had to stand up for that one.

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That's a good thing that he did that. But the others,

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partying your son.

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Your son obviously needs to be He's never going to

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straighten up and become the man you want him to

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be unless he.

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Faces you know, the music. So and with a running

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mate like Kamala Harris.

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trip is that they felt Kamala Harris was fake so

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many of the iron Irelanders. That's not even correct for

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the Irish, not the kamelo Obak. And I can understand

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that I giggle a lot. I appreciate a good giggle,

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but I mean, I think that Hillary Clinton was the

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best with that stone faced bitch look on the constant.

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the giggling.

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I told, I told those that I cared to share

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my political feelings with that politics have their own agenda

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and we are not on that list. It's unclear and

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purpose purposefully confusing written measures that actually cause people to

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vote in the opposite of their intentions. Everyone should clearly

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understand the measures without confusion. No one needs to spend

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a single dollar on bashing another opponent in a race,

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rather than spending those dollars on proving to the US

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citizens that they have our interests at heart, because we

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make this world go round. Let's talk about the pardons,

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which include within the party. I vote for disclosure. We

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don't always care for the person that's representing the party,

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but we care for what the party represents, like protecting

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ourselves against government and controls of dictatorships, maintaining our constitutional

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rights to freedom of speech and the right to bear arms.

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Biden pardons his son after saying he won't and that

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his son deserves what. I think his son deserves what

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he has coming to him. And would any of us

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be pardoned for this doing the same thing in the

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White House.

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It's an abuse of power. Bush pardons the only person

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under indictment in the Iran Contra affair. That would have

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certainly implicated him, so he literally pardoned himself again abuse

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of power.

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Bush Uh.

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was this all not just so that he could then

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turn around and pardon himself at the end of this

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four years squashing all of the issues that have come

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about with his term of presidency and his attempts to

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run for presidency and again believing that these all these

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people are in cahoots. So it's just being you know,

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everything's being thrown out there. They basically weaponized the DJ

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against him, and now they're going to give him an

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opportunity to pardon himself from that. That's really what I

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see happening for the end of the four years with Trump,

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and and I'm still confused, guys, But I'm still confused

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about having a president that has been convicted of crimes

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if this is actually true. Bush also pardons Henry Lee Lucas,

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which you're going to see. We will do a segment

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on this in cahoots with the Texas Rangers, who tries

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to falsely close more than two hundred murders around the

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US that I believe can be tied back to those

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in charges I want to call it. Bush was in

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Texas when JFK is assassinated and part of the Bay

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of Pigs involving Cuba. That's just one of the cover

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ones of the some of the ones that I cover

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in the Zodiac cases.

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The part with Henry Lee Lucas is is.

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That this man could not have had the information necessary

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to have admitted to these crimes. He was clearly given

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or fed that information by the Texas Rangers. And when

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Bush turns around and pardons him, what did he How

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is it that Henry Lee Lucas, if he admits to

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all of these murders, is eventually pardoned in the end.

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It just doesn't make any sense to me. Is this

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another one of those Texas cover ups where they were

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looking to close all these unsolved murders that we are

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hopping around right now with the Zodiac cases that we

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believe that are politically affiliated or you know, an assassination.

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As Harriet has said in her solves, Hillary Clinton starts

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her life as an attorney as a Republican during the

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Watergate scandal, but becomes a Democrat at some point and

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as her own agenda after her husband is caught in

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an illicit fair with a staffer in the Oval office. Today,

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someone brings up that Obama is responsible for and I

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say today, but this again was a week and a

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half ago, responsible for more deaths with his drone strikes

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than anyone. And I've seen pictures of him eating pizza

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with Epstein, the child traffical trafficker for royalty in the elite,

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in cahoots with Gazelle, the daughter of the Folgers coffee Empire,

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whose father supposedly falls off his yacht to never be

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seen again. By the way Epstein committed, I was trying

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to find a new word for this. Committed self homicide.

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Committed self homicide.

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In this jail.

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While IVO says that Clinton's have had over one hundred

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self homicides surrounding them during their time in politics, with

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the IRS, the DOJ, and media influences as their personal

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attack dogs, I strongly suggest we don't forget the past

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and never fight, separate from or argue with our own

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friends for any person buying for power, but decide what

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it is that we want as Americans. Stop letting politicians

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lie to us and join together to decide our future.

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Today I saw justice fail again. This was a week

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and a half ago, and this has resurfaced all the

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research that I've.

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Done over the years.

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We need to remember to not forget what has caused

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us to be where we are at in society today.

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And by the way, healthcare is not free in other countries.

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as dysfunctional, if not more than the US and severely

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divided on a level I can't comprehend when their diversity

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is so limited in comparison to the US.

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I'm proud to be an American.

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The sixth thing he is I heard from people who

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have dual citizenship that would never return to or live

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in the US, that actually have the right to vote

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for our president and pretended they have a say so.

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And who and how we are ran in this country

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makes me sick to my stomach because Hillary Clinton wanted

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to be president and was said too on many occasions

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not liked Americans. What are we doing people? My rant

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has pretty much ended at this point. You're welcome to

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weigh in. Hit me up, email me at Finding the

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Zodiac at gmail dot com. If you'd like, But I'm

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just watching this over the many years of research in

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the Zodiac case and getting to see and know what

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it is. Or I'm sorry, how these presidents have behaved,

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how these politicians have behaved over the last hundred years

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or so.

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Is there anything you would like to add to that rant?

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Oh, I'm just saying that I'm seeing over through my

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side what I do. There's versions of you break it,

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you butt it so earlier, if you're involved with breaking

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something that you weren't sure was exactly the right thing,

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a whole bunch of crap going on, and then twenty

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years later you get into the White House. It's because

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you bought that and you got to circle back and

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then you have to fix everything and fire people and

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get them thrown thrown under the bush. That's what I'm seeing.

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So it looks like Trump is going to be throwing

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a lot of people under the bus, and they propably

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deserved a lot of it. So that's what's going on

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currently right now. The past is catching up and all

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these people uh verbally saying they drained the swamp by

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Biden actually pardoning his son because all those people got exposed,

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you know, all these.

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Hi, Nolan did Morning Good More Nolan, I dislike technical difficulties.

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There was a story online about the opening of the

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John Benn Ramsey investigation using DNA and other new modern

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crime techniques to.

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Check into it. They've had the DNA for how long?

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If it didn't match somebody in their database back then,

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they think they're going to find that match now.

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It'll be interesting to see.

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What they have that comes about. And I've often thought that,

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because this was a lot of people in collusion with

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taking John Ramsey down for selling bad or outdated hardware

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or software to Lockeed, that we wouldn't find that the

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handwriting would match the person that the DNA matched. We

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wouldn't find that the fingerprints match the DNA or the handwriting.

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So it'll be interesting to see what they come up with.

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And I did just finish watching the John Benny Ramsey,

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the new John ben A Ramsey docu series. Then it

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was just a pitiful shame what law enforcement and the

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media had done to John Ramsey.

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What's that nothing was?

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Seriously yes, yes, so they knew inside in less than

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thirty days that the DNA did not match the family,

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but they withheld that information for eleven months, they allowed

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the media to grill and vilify the family, and they

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continued the onslaught for many, many years, including one of

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the investigators having written a book on it and then

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being sued by the Ramseys for the slander that he

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exposed or that he stated in that book.

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So let's get back to other dirty, dirty things.

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I want to go back to and talk about the

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April twenty fourth, nineteen seventy eight, in Control of All

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Things herb Caine letter that was stated to have been

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a forgery. In fact, one of the FBI foil files

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lists the letters that they believe that are connected to

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the zodiac, and it specifically stay on there that it

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is not a known authentic letter. I have failed to

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climb back into my binders where I have previous research

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from two thousand and nine through twenty thirteen, and yesterday

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I happened to start looking through them in this era

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and I came across an intel. It's a report of

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the Federal Bureau of Investigation from Washington, d C. On

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June seventh of nineteen seventy eight. It gives a list

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of communications that were provided and they were requested of

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the handwriting examiners to do an examination of all of

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these letters to determine whether or not they were written

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by the same hand. And of course this goes on

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down on the right hand side. We can see that

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they've got the majority of these are the known Zodiac letters.

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got extremely interested, because we see here Q ninety nine listed.

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My way there it is Q ninety nine is listed

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a one page letter in envelope post March twenty four,

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April nineteen seventy eight, which is that they said your

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item number fifteen, So they're calling item number fifteen San

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Francisco Police departments. But obviously the FBI has a continuation

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of these question documents in their files, and they are

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up to Q ninety nine and QC one hundred and

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QC one hundred is photographs of three letters in envelope's

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postmark April thirtieth, nineteen sixty seven. Oh, so this is

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going to be this is going to be the Cherry

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Joe Bates stuff, the Riverside letters. So now I want

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you to keep in mind, while we've been seeing people

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trying to borrow for Kate the cases between Zodiac and

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Cherry Joe Bates. We've seen them tell us that this

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April twenty fourth letter is a is a forgery or

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a fraud by Tashi, which he clearly states he.

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Did not write. And this is what the results were

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from that in the FOYA file.

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Specimen received May eighteenth, nineteen seventy eight from FBI San Francisco,

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undercover of communication dated May fifteenth, nineteen seven. I'm still

470
00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:04.359
trying to figure out what this particular letter is because

471
00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:07.720
this specimen, Oh, it may be somebody to go. No,

472
00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:11.200
this specimen, I'm not sure what they're referring to as

473
00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:13.240
a letter is May fifteenth, nineteen seventy eight.

474
00:25:13.319 --> 00:25:15.279
Do you know what they're talking about, Harriet.

475
00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:20.319
No, but maybe that would be an interesting portion for

476
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:22.880
me to see because that might be all code too.

477
00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:26.480
Some of this stuff that in the FBI files is code.

478
00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:30.079
I wonder if it's the second herb Cane letter, because

479
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:31.519
that one I do not have a date on and

480
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:33.319
we're going to get ready to climb into that. But

481
00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:36.839
this is the results of the examination. The handprinting on

482
00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:40.200
the Q eighty five through QC one hundred letters shows

483
00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:44.519
a wide range of variation in various writing speeds, Additionally,

484
00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:48.279
portions of the material, particularly the three Riverside letters, may

485
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:52.279
have been disguised or deliberately distorted. Hello, d I'm glad

486
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:54.799
they picked up on that, because people don't write in

487
00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:57.599
that manner. And you can ultimately see in these letters

488
00:25:57.640 --> 00:25:59.720
when you're going through it when the person drops a

489
00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:04.759
letter form because it's smoothly written. It's written nicely without

490
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:07.759
any distortion in the line quality, so you know that

491
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.000
that letter is and it also appears to have been

492
00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:14.000
written with fluidity and speed, because nobody writes an absolutely

493
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:16.880
copy per book perfect like we saw in the Zodiacs

494
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:20.759
Belli letter, and nobody writes with all of these wiggles

495
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:24.160
on downstrokes. It's just I mean, unless you're suffering from

496
00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:26.759
some neurological disease which would put you off into your

497
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:29.359
you know, sixty seventies and eighties at the time these

498
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:31.720
letters were written, and it would be highly unlikely you

499
00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:33.319
were out there committee murders.

500
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:33.640
In that case.

501
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:37.079
Let they go on to say, for the above reasons,

502
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.319
the handprinting examination of these letters was inconclusive. This is

503
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:43.319
what they told me as well, which is really kind

504
00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:48.279
of we'll get there. However, consistent hand printing characteristics were

505
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:51.759
noted in the Q eighty five through QC one hundred letters,

506
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:55.119
which indicate that one person may have prepared all of

507
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:58.119
the letters, including the Riverside letters and the messages found

508
00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:01.200
on the desktop. In the Riverside cases. The submitted evidence

509
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:04.759
was photographed and is enclosed herewith One of the things

510
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.160
this tells me is that these are the original documents

511
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:10.119
because they photographed them, be no reason to photograph it

512
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:12.000
if it was a copy. We just slide that into

513
00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:14.319
the file and move about your day. So at least

514
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:16.400
as of nineteen seventy eight, we know that all of

515
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:18.839
these letters were still in the possession of law enforcement

516
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:22.880
before they randomly come up missing and get dispersed over

517
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.839
the years. So with that being said, they are skating

518
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:31.000
that this is consistent with the characteristics found in the

519
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:35.039
Zodiac writings the Riverside letters in Sherry Joe Bates again

520
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:38.640
consistent in characteristics, and I like how they may have

521
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.799
prepared all of the letters, including the Riverside letters, so

522
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:49.119
this may move may have This is what they said purportedly,

523
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:53.319
and guys can all clearly see that this particular communication

524
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:57.319
from the foil files was three pages long. I received

525
00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:00.680
a one page and the second page had merely a

526
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:04.799
small paragraph on it, in which case they stated also

527
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.400
the handwriting comparison between Jack and the zodiac letters was

528
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:11.960
inconclusive due to them not having the original zodiac letters.

529
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:14.799
I think that's complete b s either way.

530
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:17.599
They went on to say that he may or may

531
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:22.920
not have altered the letters of like, may or may

532
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:25.480
not have like. You're at two different ends of the

533
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:28.000
spectrum when you think about a qualified opinion as a

534
00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:31.480
document examiner, we start at the top with identification, the

535
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:35.200
bottom is an exclusion, somewhere in the middle is inconclusive,

536
00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:38.240
and then outside of that you get varying degrees of

537
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:41.960
probable strong probability, and then probably not.

538
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:43.400
And strong probability not.

539
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:47.119
So, while they claimed it was an inconclusive result, they

540
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:50.720
went ahead and used two qualified levels, one from above

541
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:53.720
and one from below inconclusive to state that he may

542
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:55.640
or may not have written the letters.

543
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:58.240
Oh my ay, I'm so confused.

544
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:01.200
I don't know how they make any idea identifications in anything,

545
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:03.759
if that's the way they speak in regards to handwriting.

546
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:10.039
So that brings us to the crackproof letter.

547
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:13.359
The date is unknown and I haven't listed in here

548
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.920
is seven eleven, nineteen seventy eight. But now I'm starting

549
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.480
to wonder about this may date. I don't know where

550
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:21.799
I got July eleventh, nineteen seventy eight for the Crackproof letter.

551
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:29.000
But they're all the same April nineteen seventy eight. They're

552
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:35.920
all together. Okay, they're all in sections. That's why I said,

553
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:39.279
I beat myself up because I mixed the Crackproof and

554
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:42.720
the other printed one together and I had to read

555
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:45.839
do that. But they're all together. Then this is set

556
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:51.160
as a giant facsimile, and so there's six portions and

557
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.720
they all flow very fluidly, including the ghost Killer.

558
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:59.799
Okay, so we're going to trek into that. No, no,

559
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:04.359
we're not there yet. No, I'm not there yet.

560
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:07.000
I'm still the point of introducing the letters. So basically,

561
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:10.039
this is a secondary letter that is written about Herb Kane.

562
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:15.680
It says, dear editor, this this the Zodiac speaking. I

563
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.400
am crack Proof. Tell Herb Kane that I am still here.

564
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.799
I have always been here. Tell the Blue Pigs if

565
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:27.279
want me, I will be at I will be out

566
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.960
driving around on Halloween in my death machine looking for

567
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:37.240
some kiddies to run over cars make nice weapons. The

568
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:40.160
pigs can can catch me if they can find me

569
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:43.599
out there, just like in the movie The Car, tell

570
00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:47.960
the kiddies watch before they cross the street on Halloween

571
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.519
Night till Pashi plans yours truly. And it's again the

572
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:55.799
zodiac symbol next to the word guess, as if to

573
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:58.920
guess how many victims he's had at this point. And

574
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:02.720
it is signed off off VPD, which is Balao Police Department,

575
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:06.039
and they also are labeled with zero, so we know

576
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.839
he's said that about the SFPD. Now we're seeing the

577
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:14.920
VPD is also talied at zero. Very close statement that

578
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:17.839
is made in the original Herb Cane letter that they

579
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:21.319
tried to declare was a fraud. He talks about being

580
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:24.319
crack proof that he's still here, he's always been here,

581
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:27.759
which hmm, you've been in and out of the state.

582
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:28.079
Jack.

583
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:30.880
He talks about the blue pigs catch me if they

584
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:31.480
can find me.

585
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.359
There's the movie reference that we see in so many

586
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:38.680
of these communications the movie The Car. He signs off

587
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.880
yours truly, and this is equal to the Sherry Joe

588
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.200
Bates Convention letter and the Dear Draft Board letters and others.

589
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.200
So letter was called a hoax by local authorities in

590
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.839
the control of all things. Now I'm wondering what they

591
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:54.799
have to say about this other but we've looked at

592
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:56.920
the handwriting and we can tell that it is definitely

593
00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:58.839
something that the Zodiac is executed.

594
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:03.519
It looks to me I exam it was fake.

595
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:06.480
Well, they tried to say this one over here to

596
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:09.160
the right was fake and that this was a hoax letter.

597
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:12.119
I haven't really gotten a lot of information. Again, I

598
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:14.759
believe that lots of things have been taken down from

599
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:16.680
the Internet, which is why I'm going to start going

600
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.960
back through my binders, because I collected and printed everything

601
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:23.079
from the Internet, including the URLs that existed back in

602
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:25.160
two thousand and nine through twenty thirteen.

603
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:26.799
And We're going to see how things differ.

604
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.279
I mean, obviously, we just saw one AFOIA file from

605
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:33.279
the FBI that states that it was a hoax letter,

606
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:34.880
but the other one says that that he I'm writing

607
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:36.440
is consistent with a single author.

608
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:42.480
Go ahead on the last slide.

609
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.720
The envelope looks like zogiac can writing with the letter

610
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.079
itself is not as similar.

611
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.640
But it still could be. But well, it was pargole

612
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.720
and blah, blah blah, servis go for it. That's like,

613
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:55.559
oh yeah.

614
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:57.920
You have to do kind of a comparison of this

615
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:00.759
one to the Melvin Belly letter where he attempted to

616
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.599
copy do copy book printing, which is very disguised handwriting

617
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:08.319
because nobody writes that slow. So it's very consistent with

618
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:10.680
the Belly letter, and I've shown how it's consistent with

619
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:15.119
other letters throughout the Zodiac communications.

620
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:16.880
It seems.

621
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:21.160
What's that to me?

622
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:22.079
At first class?

623
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:23.279
Right?

624
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:27.839
And we have some of that seems well, niter is

625
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:31.279
that Melvin Bellye letter. So Melvin Belly is one.

626
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:33.359
Of those strict But as he goes down the end

627
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:35.359
of the letter, he starts to fall apart in his

628
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:38.200
neatness and perfection of the copy book script, and we

629
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:41.319
start to see him drop his own characteristics in the handwriting.

630
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.519
So that brings us to the stenographic code. I am

631
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:49.720
crack poof proof the car movie, Harriet, do you want

632
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:50.240
to read that?

633
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:50.920
Solve?

634
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.240
That one was easy to do once. I wasn't mixed

635
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:59.920
up anyway, It says to the sloppy Ace detective Toast

636
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:06.920
the irishman is Tolgon. The shitty screen actor chef Gus

637
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:12.280
Star who bugged District of Columbia Commander and Chief Carter

638
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:18.519
to paint Scottsdale Azy, Arizona while sideways with Bob Crane

639
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:22.480
head blood. Wow, and we were just talking about Bob

640
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:24.000
Prane Yeah.

641
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:24.199
Two.

642
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:25.519
Yes.

643
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:29.079
In fact, that was one of my statements, is that

644
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.440
you seem to have solves that are consistent with the

645
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:36.840
information either before or after as it's coming up. And

646
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.159
you believe all of these were a facsimile that was

647
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:41.840
written in nineteen seventy.

648
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:46.480
Eight, exactly. They're all according to what I got. It's

649
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:50.920
April twenty ninth and April thirtieth, nineteen seventy eight, So

650
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:54.519
it's mainly April thirtieth, nineteen seventy eight series of messages

651
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.440
that we're all put in together. Wow, Okay, I'm ready

652
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.360
for well and that all of all things one too.

653
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.119
I now I'm coming up to that one right now.

654
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.000
So you had sent me helloona D here's another part

655
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.159
to the April nineteen seventy eight series.

656
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:12.280
The nineteen seventy eight editor or.

657
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.440
Both the San Francisco Chronicle and the Santa Clarita Signal

658
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:18.840
was Scott Newhall, Santa Clarita and Town new Hall it's

659
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.960
old Hollywood lands that Newhall family owned and are still

660
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:26.280
well connected to Disney movies. Are where Disney movies are filmed,

661
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:29.360
and there's still Bob Crane Gus was filmed in parts

662
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:34.440
of that area. You circle the genographic code, so everybody

663
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:36.519
is seeing that on my screen right now. Was found

664
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:39.960
in this version. You added city pig, Toshi's full name,

665
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.159
his police department, et cetera.

666
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.880
And then you anagrammed it. So you want to read,

667
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:46.400
go ahead and read that message.

668
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:52.599
Yeah, it is a second part to the flow. Hogan's heroes,

669
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:57.400
Bob Crane, let die piece of shit at Edwards of

670
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:01.000
TVs to tell the truth with little key word. I

671
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:03.880
don't think we can say that on YouTube now, cuyan

672
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:09.440
boy howe uhf at kid, Wayne Williams bug the Carter

673
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:14.719
planes Georgia home phone line and Bob Crane's Scottsdale Azy

674
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:18.840
Arizona city phone line in his apartment. Hone in on

675
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:23.440
the President Carter half value layer, which is radiation exposure.

676
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:26.440
He was licking the stamp, so.

677
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.119
That's a radiation exposure through the stamp.

678
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:39.719
Carter and Terrence both suffered from radiation exposure, so licking

679
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:42.320
that stamp it looks like he was trying to record

680
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:47.079
this according to the code, that Carter's recording what he's doing,

681
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:51.159
and it's using a phone line, very rare for most people,

682
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:56.519
and his saliva is supposed to be still radioactive at

683
00:36:56.599 --> 00:37:02.480
that time, So huh if you so. And there's a

684
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:05.840
mission going on, they're going after the Nazis, and Carter

685
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.599
was picked for that team. He got he's that's and

686
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:13.199
then to make it more short, to the point, Logan's heroes,

687
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:20.159
his co stars were actual Nazi victims, Holocaust survivors, either

688
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:24.639
themselves or their family members. So there's a lot.

689
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:28.599
Now you mentioned you mentioned Ed Edwards of TVs To

690
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:33.199
Tell the Truth. So that was an actual series or something.

691
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:38.880
He I remember seeing him in the seventies doing some shows,

692
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:41.320
but he was big, and he did a show on

693
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:43.880
to Tell the Truth and was coming forward saying I

694
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.880
used to be a criminal, and uh, you know it

695
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:48.360
was a it was a big deal.

696
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:49.559
So he was there.

697
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.519
Edwards connected.

698
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:59.159
Sorry, that's okay, So Ed Edwards is the same Ed Edwards.

699
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.719
Cipher gentleman that I'm talking to right now believes that

700
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:04.920
Ed Edwards also did ciphers.

701
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.039
He's somewhere in this mess. But he's not on Jack

702
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:14.119
and his crew side. They are not liking him for

703
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.760
what he did and who he got involved with. So

704
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:22.159
Wayne Williams, well, Wayne Williams was trying to get into

705
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:25.079
the TV and radio action he even as a kid,

706
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:28.280
from what I read, basically was trying to get the

707
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.480
kids into shows and you know, starring or whatever.

708
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:34.480
So he was doing interviews.

709
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.280
He was doing interviews with the likes of people like

710
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.480
Bob Crane and other celebrities, politicians.

711
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:44.239
He was involved in something at the And for those

712
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:46.719
who claim that Wayne Williams, even though I'm not liking

713
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:49.079
what I see, has an IQ of one hundred and eighteen,

714
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:53.360
think again, it's a lot higher when you're twelve years

715
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:59.760
old interviewing people connected to civil rights leaders and understanding

716
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:04.320
think come on and then your home radio program of

717
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:05.519
big deal.

718
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:06.599
Yes I did read that.

719
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.760
And Wayne Williams it was one of the suspects in

720
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:12.960
the Atlanta, Georgia child killer cases.

721
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:22.920
Correct, Yes, he gets he gets convicted of a couple

722
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:23.639
of the crimes.

723
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:27.239
Right, well, I think they were adults.

724
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:31.679
Right, No, he gets it convicted, dosn't no, no, no, no, no,

725
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:32.760
I know who.

726
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:36.639
Is killed in Atlanta, Georgia child killer cases. But Wayne

727
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:40.440
Williams was actually convicted of having I thought killed an adult,

728
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:41.320
not children.

729
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:47.440
Yeah, he's two adults. But they all these people that

730
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:50.079
were kids. It's a mess. It's horrible.

731
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.199
Well they tried to pin the kids on it, but

732
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:54.880
what they did have evidence, I thought was something to

733
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:56.719
do with adults, not with children.

734
00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:59.159
So either way, all right.

735
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.280
We'll get to him when we get to him, because

736
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:03.960
he will be a part of He's a patsy like

737
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.159
Arthur Lee Allen for whatever purpose. I'm not saying he

738
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.519
wasn't a bad guy and didn't do his own business,

739
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:12.280
but I don't think that he was the person that

740
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.280
was responsible for all the killing of the children in Atlanta.

741
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.239
Let's see, now this is moving on to the envelope.

742
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:22.039
I believe you said it's top secret, Jack Nixon, Herst

743
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:25.679
Zodiac Carter until both Terrence and Carter die. Jimmy Carter

744
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:30.239
is still alive. Jimmy Carter is still alive. How old

745
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:30.960
would this man have.

746
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:31.679
To be right now?

747
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:34.719
He's he's one hundred million.

748
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:44.559
Wow, and for somebody suffering from Newton.

749
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:47.719
No, I was just going to say that the envelope,

750
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:51.079
it the sold itself actually splits in half and then

751
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:55.159
you add the others and it's all fluid. But yeah,

752
00:40:56.079 --> 00:41:01.679
if you want me to read that saw, yes, absolutely, yes, Okay,

753
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:07.559
this was easy to do. It's April thirtieth, nineteen seventy eight,

754
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:11.280
Signal and Chronicle editor Scott new Hall. Even though it

755
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:14.400
says just a new Hall. That guy was doing both

756
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:18.039
papers anyways. At ZIP go nine to one three five

757
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:21.639
five tacsimile, and he's saying a different version of to

758
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:25.679
tell the truth, his fourties, to tell the truth sheer horizon,

759
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:29.760
atomic mass, ze dash and then a pause atomic number.

760
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.079
I think he was trying to explain something that most

761
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:34.400
people are not going to understand what he was exposed to,

762
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:39.000
so it comes out perfect. Anyways, Official President elect him

763
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:44.639
sent one secret witness OCCK twelve twenty nine seventy six,

764
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:49.159
writing to the Royal Oak Police Department, Michigan. ZIP goes

765
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:53.679
for eight two zero one with info noman necio that's

766
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:57.559
Jack is ill and then has the HBL the half

767
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:02.239
value layer saliva on or out back of USPS image

768
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:07.480
liberty Bell thirteen cent stamps us Scott fifteen ninety five,

769
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:09.920
and then it goes on to say no man Nascio,

770
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:17.559
that's Jack is temporarily blind. Do need doctor ducks operation ps. Also,

771
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:21.039
for what it's worth, should no monescio and I die.

772
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:27.039
I request local San Francisco, California chronicle run the nine

773
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:32.199
four one zero three scoop the current president one r A.

774
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:38.199
Hearst Richard Nixon too new Terrence with Zodiac. You make

775
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:41.199
sure you ask his holiness the nine nine to nine.

776
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:45.880
Pope Paul says, one mass io. That's documents in order,

777
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:47.599
Commander in chief Carter.

778
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:51.960
So is that a sign off because Carter wrote this?

779
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:56.039
Or this is yeah Carter, it's both Jack and Carter

780
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:59.679
are doing these. So this the other bottom part goes

781
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:03.199
out after the ghost Killer because the ghost Killer says

782
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:06.760
the same thing they got a and that Jack is

783
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.400
on a leave of absence. That's what's in the ghost Killer.

784
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:14.119
Same blind thing. That the blind thing that you're talking about.

785
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.440
He's having problems with his eyes, and you mentioned that

786
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:19.639
he has been exposed to radiation. We know that Jack

787
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.679
worked for General Electric in the San Jose or the

788
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:28.000
Bay area, where he developed the machinery that strips water

789
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:33.039
waste from the actual I'm sorry, it removes water from

790
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:37.880
the nuclear waste, so he could potentially have been exposed

791
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:39.960
at that point to radiation.

792
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:40.599
Correct.

793
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:45.360
Yes, yes, for a long term. But I'm wondering and

794
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:48.559
is there any information we can come up with, because

795
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:53.440
the Fermi plant in Michigan had a similar mishap to

796
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:56.480
which Carter was the one who in nineteen fifty two

797
00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:59.760
jumped down the silo to turn some things to stop

798
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:04.840
the week. So they I would logically be calling somebody

799
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.480
who knew how to do something, and that would be

800
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:12.679
Jack and to get this. The radiator for the Fermi

801
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:17.079
plant had the problem. Jack tells Dennis, I damaged my

802
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:23.000
hands on the radiator. So is there any way that we.

803
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:26.760
Can do you know when that happened, that when Carter

804
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:27.480
had to jump.

805
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:31.679
Down for that, oh, nineteen fifty two Carter Carter, nineteen

806
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:34.440
fifty two, Carter jumps down a filo and turns some

807
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.960
things because there's fallout and a bad accident happening. In

808
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:41.719
nineteen sixty six, the Kermi plant had something similar, and

809
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:45.440
that's in Michigan and it was the radiator thing for

810
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:50.960
their their wastewater. So did Jack go in there and

811
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:52.000
turn that radiator?

812
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:56.320
Well, and we had three references, and we have three

813
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:58.480
references to power plants with Jack.

814
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:00.960
Number one was in chok of Illinois.

815
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:04.159
We see that he is there while they're building the

816
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:07.519
stacks to that particular power plant. We know that he

817
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:11.599
worked for General Electric here in California during nineteen sixty

818
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:14.039
two and sixty three. And then we know that there

819
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:16.920
is a picture which appears to be a later dated

820
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:20.519
picture because it is in color, and it is a

821
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:25.519
picture of the Charlavoy, Michigan power plant or nuclear power plant.

822
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:28.960
It's a billboard on the side of the road. It's wintertime.

823
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:32.159
This to me was perceived to be a picture that

824
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:35.480
was possibly taken during the occ k.

825
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:39.480
Cases, if you will, and or the visiting.

826
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:42.079
We know that there was a visit to the John

827
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:45.880
Benay Ramsay's home in Charlovoy, Michigan, which again is in

828
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:48.960
the same area as this power plant. Where a rope

829
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.440
that appears to me, when I look at that style

830
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:53.440
of rope, it looks like something that you would last

831
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:57.119
so a horse with as is not just any standard Oh,

832
00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:59.320
I'm going to tie down a load rope. It's very

833
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.719
thick and very very sturdy, kind of made out of

834
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:08.840
that almost hemp type material, so that's an extremely interesting solve.

835
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:12.760
He's complaining that he's temporarily blind, he needs an operation.

836
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:16.079
He and Carter are both suffering, as you believe, from

837
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:21.960
a radiation poisoning, and how Carter could live into one

838
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.679
hundred with radiation poisoning is just beyond me.

839
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:27.119
I would have thought you would have died like long before.

840
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.880
Then it looks like that's what they're thinking, that they're

841
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:35.280
seeing other people dying around fifty, so you know they're

842
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:39.159
both around fifty. So it's interesting that this salve is

843
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:41.440
coming out being well, if we both die, I want

844
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:45.280
you to tell all everything about Zodia I makes Androst

845
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:47.119
through Hurst.

846
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:49.360
I mean, how is it they're going to call out

847
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.960
Randolph first, this late in the game, but then we

848
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:56.679
see nearly every single media outlet that he is writing

849
00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:57.960
to is to Hurst.

850
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:00.000
And it's been my belief that Hurst is.

851
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:04.159
Been facilitating these communications between mob, between politicians, between these

852
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:07.239
killers and the likes throughout History Criminals.

853
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:10.679
Whatever it is that the Mob is doing. They're running personal.

854
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:12.639
Ads and it seems to be well accepted, even though

855
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:14.960
I'm sure the FBI knows exactly how to look through

856
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.920
these ads and determine who is there for legitimate reasons

857
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:23.559
and who is not. Hey, well, there is another communication

858
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:28.599
from the FBI FOIA files and the Zodiac homicide case

859
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:34.320
sent from San Francisco Police Department in San Francisco, California.

860
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.960
They had its regards to telephone conversation between.

861
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:41.199
Well, it's not going to tell us San Francisco and

862
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:44.639
then it says essay, Quantico, Virginia. So enclosed for the

863
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:47.639
Bureau is an inventory of enclosures and thirty one enclosures

864
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:49.719
pertaining to the Zodiac homicide case.

865
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.280
Inspectors. I don't know who they are.

866
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:55.480
Homicide Unit San Francisco might have been Tashi, I don't know.

867
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:58.000
The name looks a little bit longer than Tashi. But

868
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:02.599
two inspectors from the homicide unit in San Francisco Police

869
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:05.679
Department furnished and closed material to the FBI requesting that

870
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:09.280
the Behavioral Science unit in Quantica review an attempt to

871
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:13.400
develop a psychological profile of the Zodiac. Quantico is requested

872
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:16.079
to return and close material and any resulting efforts to

873
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:19.400
the Police Training Unit of the San Francisco Office. SO

874
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:23.480
again June nineteenth of nineteen seventy eight. This original material

875
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:27.519
is still collectively together being sent to the FBI and

876
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:30.559
then returned again would not need to be returned if

877
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:33.039
they were only submitted copies, So I'm taking for granted

878
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:35.880
at this point that they were furnished the original documents

879
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:38.920
in this case. That pretty much puts us down to

880
00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:42.920
our last few minutes. Is there anything that either of

881
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:44.039
you would like to add.

882
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:44.920
In regards to that?

883
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:50.760
Well, so hopefully we'll be able to cover the gloves

884
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:54.239
killer portion because it just again it reiterates the same thing,

885
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:58.159
and then it links to the ending of what's in

886
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:01.760
the envelope. And this is all well just anagramming and

887
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:06.199
everything and identifying everything possible in there. So and I

888
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.840
thank you the net for asking me to do, because

889
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:12.039
some of them are titled Barto requests, and then the

890
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:14.199
other ones are the ones that I was working on already,

891
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:17.079
so you know, thank you for requesting these. It's very

892
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:18.159
interesting this week.

893
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:21.079
Well, then for next week, what I'll do is I

894
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:22.000
will move it.

895
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.559
I thought that the ghost Writing Letter or the ghost

896
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:26.760
Killer Letter was nineteen eighty one. I'm going to move

897
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:29.039
it back to the end of when we just concluded

898
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:31.119
here with these letters will get that caught up.

899
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:33.559
So you can finish the four part segment on that letter.

900
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:37.119
Everybody, have a wonderful weekend and a great week and

901
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:38.480
we will see you next Friday.

902
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:40.960
Take care of later.