July 25, 2025

Zodiac Killer Solves by Harriette Sucher

Zodiac Killer Solves by Harriette Sucher
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Stenographic codes, anagrams, and grill ciphers are some of the methods the Zodiac Killer used to deliver messages. Chris Hopkins of the FBI indicated that the Zodiac encrypted messages of deeds to come. The FBI FOIA files indicate that they looked at different methods of encryption, so it is not too far fetched that other messages exist. I believed that the reason for writing the news syndicates have another purpose and the Zodiac killed to get those messages in the papers.

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Good Morning, True seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.

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Today we're going to be discussing the solves, the ins

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and outs of the systems that are used, and answer

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many questions in regards to the information that Harriet Soousche

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believes is being relayed. So I'd like to start by

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bringing to the show Harriet Soousche, good morning, Good morning,

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how are you doing?

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I got a new anyways I'm doing? This is going

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to be good, good show.

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You got a new scarf because you stopped and our

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radio listeners would not know what you meant if they're

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not watching the video.

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It is cute.

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I like it, and I see we both got the

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memo and colored today.

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So this is one of my favorite shirts. It says coffee,

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hustle wine. Repeat.

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That's good. Well, we left off last week and we

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didn't quite finish it, but I had so many questions

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before we were even finished that I thought it was

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going to be worthy of revisiting. Good morning, Nolan. We

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are going to be going over the crack proof solve

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of the October nineteen eighty seven Zodiac letter, which we

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started last week, and of course you got cut off,

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Nolan when you asked a question. So we're going to

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actually take this one step by step, get some answers

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to this entire system and solve that Harriet has, including

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the information that's in it. So I think it's going

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to relate to a lot of history that you're probably

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familiar with. So I'm glad you were here today. So basically,

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you have compiled a solve, and that is what is

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on my screen right now, and it encompasses now. I

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do see that we have some stamps over to the right,

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but I believe these stamps you indicated were from other

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communications and not necessarily from the nineteen eighty seven letter,

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or do I have that incorrect?

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If I did the math. Actually, once I realized that

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the other half of the stamps was because there's the big,

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oh commemorative stamp with the flag flag over Capitol Hill,

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et cetera. Anyways, I did the math. It would cost

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the four seventeen p which is pennies a pence, and

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then the two twenty two cents American to send that overseas.

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So it looks like Jack and his crew had got

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a because he's being requested. Can you please solve what

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might have went over that Randolph Apperson Hurst had sent

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over about his father's for Jack the Ripper communications. So

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it didn't cost that much, and that's what.

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I want to start with. You believe that it was

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mailed to the United States from overseas.

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No, it was mailed from according to the salt that

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I came up, which is large anyways, that it was

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actually coming from a section of Canada that they're very

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familiar with, which is so in Labrador North North something anyways,

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but that it went from there. Okay, it went from

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America to there and then overseas. And it's a postal

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code of one A, which I said, why I knew

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about this when I started doing these, when I did

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some of the early envelopes that had the postal code

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of one A, but also San Francisco, et cetera, with

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that associated Balaoe nine five four nine zero zip code

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that envelope, So that was that was the hint there

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that they had a connection all those years earlier, and

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Jack knew about this.

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So this letter was purportedly mailed to Balao Police department.

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Yeah, when you look closely at the zip code, it

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has a postal code for a place in Canada. And

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I thought, okay, this is going to have something to

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do with the future of dB Cooper coming soon in

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a year or so after that sixty nine ish, So.

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Can you how can you tell what the postal code

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is because it looks awfully blurry to me.

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Oh no, it's not there. Well, well, on the original

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on this one, which is really tiny time California, et cetera,

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where you have the regular envelope, it has the postal code,

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it has San Francisco zip code. But this is all

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manufactured from nineteen sixty eight sixty nine. But there's a

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postal code of one A in there. And I know

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about this from years ago, and I said, oh, okay,

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I'm just adding in so that when I did the

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Baleale Times and calif. The whole thing is I was

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very early twenty twenty getting these, and so the postal

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code is in there if you get a larger envelope.

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But they're saying that this was not only that postal code,

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but probably two times postal stamp. Oh my god.

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So who's they when you refer to they are saying

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that it's a one ad together that's on the screen.

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They're saying that that has the same information a lot

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of it that's very close to the July thirty first,

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nineteen sixty nine envelope.

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So and now I'm looking to get the question answered.

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Who is they?

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You said, the Orange Jack and his crew, the ones

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who have this at their their Zodiac ciphers sites. And

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I believe also Zodiac Killer Facts used to have something

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like this. A lot of people that were definitely against

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Dennis and us. But but anyways, that's why I'm referring

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to us today. You'll find this at their sights.

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So Zodiac Skipher's.

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Let's cut to the jase. Let's get to the Yeah,

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John sat because he's bringing up about John Sarat.

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I get that everybody wants to chomp at the bit

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and get to the salt and the realism of this

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entire thing is that I have to understand how the

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mechanics of this works. So does the audience. I mean,

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anybody could spit out and say I got this message,

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but we have to understand how you obtained this message

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and the information that was used in order to generate

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the message. So uh go to So basically, what you're

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saying is that zodiacsniphers dot com is affiliated with ORANGEHAC

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and they have indicated that it stated there was a

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one A postal code on it.

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No, no, I found it on some of the earlier envelopes.

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And this point where you have where I circle it

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in blue, that's from twenty twenty that I did the

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entire envelope, but it was very early. But I found

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the postal code of one A, which is.

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Well, that's a different envelope.

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No, that's that's the same. Please rush your editor, et

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cetera the ZIP code. And so that's when they were

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talking about this.

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Okay, you're talking about this one.

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Here you can see when I'm pointing it, so.

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You're talking about the one in the left hand corner.

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They're saying that the same.

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What you circled in blue that's not the code we're

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working on. That's not the letter we're working on. We're

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working on the Lilac envelope.

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Yeah, and they're saying that the same the same ZIP

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code information that's on the Balale Times, Balao, California, et cetera,

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h is on that on that envelope.

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Okay, so that's figure out.

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And I said, I said, my god, it has the

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one A in there. Anyways, let's keep.

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Going, all right, So basically this you used the information

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that was embedded in the stamps, if you will, the

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information that was on the envelope, and the letter itself

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in order to compile this particular solve.

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Yeah, and it was actually surprisingly easy. I was thinking

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it's going to take a couple of weeks, but I

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already had done the Ripper stuff, so this was like

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one two three. But it was a long, long solve

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that it took up several days to get nice and neat.

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But still I was amazed.

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So there's some things that I that's some of the

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questions that I had. So you just mentioned the Jack

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the Ripper solves, and that William or Randolph, William Randolph

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Hurst's son is requesting the zodiac to decode.

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It's saying that that there's information that William Randal the

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Son had sent these over at least force four of

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the letters to the United Kingdom which went into their

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their files, and so he's now deceased in the year

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two thousand. R A. Hearst and that this is a

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request coming from according to the decode that is from

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the Bush family. So both President Bush first and President

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Bush the second, and there were the ones that if

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you can decode this okay.

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So one of the things that you mentioned in this

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is that the School in Bones Society, yes cipher system right.

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It's mostly a stenographic code system that involves anagramming, and

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it's usually some words that are really odd looking embedded

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into the letters, and I'm familiar with that, but I

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was seeing it also in eighteen eighty eight, the same system.

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Okay. So my question is why if Bush and them

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are are members of Skull and Bone Society, wouldn't they

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know this system.

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Apparently, I'm going to say, they're too bleeping them to

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understand how to do this, So they're asking Jack to

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do it. I don't know how, because I just can't

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imagine the Bush family sitting down their decoding stuff. It

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looks like they requested the expert to decode it for them,

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That's what I'm seeing.

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But if the Zodiac is using it, and they're capable

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of ciphering or solving the Zodiac's messages, and he's using

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the system that supposedly was used on the Jack the

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Ripper messages, wouldn't they once again already have the method

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to decode these messages.

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I think that they were possibly taught it or understood

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it to some degree and recognized it when they've seen

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it in a in a letter. But we're not that

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that mental capacity like Jack was Jack was. Jack apparently

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did this in this I would say, even in his sleep.

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So they asked him to if he could find the

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code keys. He needed to find the code keys to

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do these and so he's a expert that was blown

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away by this.

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So then that leads me to the next question, because

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obviously we're you're stating that this is in two thousand

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and five, that this facsimile is coming across. If he

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was asked to crack this in October nineteen eighty seven,

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why did it take till two thousand and five for

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him to submit.

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I'm getting that it was actually since Bush the second

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is now the president, that is coming from him, which

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the circa two thousand and two thousand and one when

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he's going to be the president.

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So he's and he wants to know what the Jack

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the Ripper codes.

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Yeah, so just be here, you know, And they're not

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the ones who are experts at at doing this receiving

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and sending. Jack did it what forty fifty years but

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he had to find the code keys though.

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So are you not believing that this was legitimately mailed

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in October of nineteen eighty seven?

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Absolutely, that's just the ald code. It was somehow stent a

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certain way. But it is saying that it's a Lilac

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colared envelope, which is actually brown, and that was all

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Now by two thousand and five, Jack is trying to say,

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I think I got this. The Wylac penny stamp was

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on those Jack the Ripper communications. And I.

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Don't discount the ability to use postal stuff since this

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is government, you know, it seems to all be wrapping

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around government politics, and you know, Gates having access to

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these types of things, I'm not going to say is

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without question. Because we have the nineteen eighty six letter

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which was withheld from us. This letter appears to also

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have been withheld until a much later date. Also there

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is the Christmas card that we know is postpark nineteen ninety,

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but purportedly was not received or found until two thousand

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and seven, and their pavement. Their statement is is that

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somebody misplaced it and it sat on a shelf, which

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I find extremely hard to believe, especially since the Zodiac

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case was such a hot topic and made so much

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money for the newspapers. It's a great story. Why would

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you hide this thing from nineteen ninety until two thousand

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and seven, unless, of course it was mailed at a

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much later day but postmarked backwards or backdated to nineteen

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ninety in order to complete some message that he was

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attempting to get out. So I do understand that there

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is some room for play in there.

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All I know is, but I've learned even doing to

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check the Ripper stuff is they were sending images on

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the wires, and they were creating fact similes of them,

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especially by eighteen eighty eight. So this is an image.

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This is a modern image. Apparently Jack is saying to

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use the zeros copy machine and set that across, so

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he's trying to get it. He's trying to tell them

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that he was able to practice and send the image

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the way it is across.

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And we do see, we do see in some of

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your older movies them using the copy machine as a

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fax machine exactly. It is reproduced, yes, and the copy

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machine was hooked up to the telephone lines long before

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we were capable of doing that with our all in

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one systems. So what makes you think that it's a

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fac simile.

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Well, he's saying that he sent the fact simile as

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in a more of a fact, so that this was

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being sent on the on the wires and on the lines,

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and as I was finishing up and wrapping up what

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was I knew making sense to Oh my god, he's

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saying that he used Dennis Koffman's AOL America Online password

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to get some of this information. But that would be

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again sending information on the wire using modern computers. But

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there was limited colored data for these particular the one

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letter that he was trying to decode, which was true.

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Okay, all right, so let's go ahead and start by

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reading this particular message. I've got the first third of

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it up and we're going to take it a third

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at a time so that we can address the questions

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that I might have in regards to what this message

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is purportedly relaying. So go ahead, Oh.

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It's just saying April second, two thousand and five, President

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George H. W. Bush and son President George W. Bush

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facsimile as in facts to six thirty four zero zero PM.

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All the numbers are in there anyways, Eastern time. His

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holiness the totis tuist nine nine nine Pope, which is

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the reverse of sixty sixty six. By the way, it

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means he's very holy died. And he's saying, I'm mad again,

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Please UBI use remedium where's the remedy? His head is

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exploding AA alcoholics anonymous, and then he's calming down because

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he knows he's now working for Bush. He's saying, I'm

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on a mission NASA, God damn bleepin effer people get

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read it anyways to die, I'm to gut him. He

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said that multiple times, and some decodes I got. Anyways,

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He's to gut him. July fourteenth, two thousand and five,

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and b NSF, which is Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad,

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is to run Robert abelbody over which did happen? Anyways?

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Regarding your request on three four oh five, my answer

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is this way I sent July thirty first, nineteen sixty nine,

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or RA which is ran off Apperson Hurst the big

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news story that they were just starting plugged by the

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media newspapers. Please rest you editor, and the editor at

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the time for Baloe Times Herald was George Henningson. So

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whenever I seen please rush the editor. You're supposed to

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fill in who the editor is the name anyways, Zodiac

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letters Balale Times Herald, Valao caliph abbreviation ninety four or

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five nine zero envelope you were asking, yes, I can't

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crack or A said October nineteen eighty seven. Those those

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four it's four letters that were sent across that end

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up mysteriously in the United Kingdom nineteen eighty seven.

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Well, and we do have some some letters that we

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do believe that are mailed from outside of the country,

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such as Malaysia, Thailand. We saw some fake anthrax that

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was purportedly mailed, almost as if to say the individual

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who had made the attack here in the United States

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had then left the country and perpetrated similar acts in

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other areas. Either as a copycat or to deter them

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from looking for that individual here in the United States.

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So it's a three part letter on the July thirty first,

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nineteen sixty nine, then contained the four toh eight three

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parts cipher and one went to San franci Cisco Chronicle,

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one to the San Francisco Examiner, and one to the

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Valeo Times Herald. So so far this message is actually

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matching up with the fact that the October nineteen eighty

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seven letter is also mailed to the Valeo Times Herald,

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and we have the other two parts being mailed to

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newspapers that are owned by Are they still the San

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Francisco Chronicle and the Examiner still owned by Hurst in

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two thousand, two thousand and.

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One, I think by two thousand and one, I think

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it was the Hearst and the Chronicle papers, but they

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I think joined the other one out. I'm trying to

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remember so.

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But in sixty nine they were for sure still owned

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by Hearst.

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They were doing they were having to work together on

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the weekends where because that was in San Francisco. As

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a kid, you had a massive Sunday newspaper, So they

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were working together just they were two separate entities that

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they were joined one point.

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So this message is basically saying that the newspapers had

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the ability to crack these messages.

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Correct, Yeah, the stuff that I'm saying, Yeah, they were

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able to send a lot of images on the wires

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back and forth. And Jack is saying that they were

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using this especially by nineteen sixty eight, sixty nine, mainly

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sixty nine for a couple of years that there was

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messages being said back and forth, and it was in code,

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and some of it was I know, know what's got

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a name Skull and Bone Society centargraphic code.

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So and I stumbled on Skull and Bones Society quite

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some time ago in regards to my research. Which funny

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that your messages are yielding that type of information when

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my research led me in that direction at one point

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in time as well. And of course it's saying that

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the big news story plugged by the media newspapers. Obviously,

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once again, this is some attempt to make money for

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the newspapers because sending these messages out and them selling

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the millions of newspapers they did because everybody wanted their

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hands on the latest, you know, greatest information in regards

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to the Zodiac probably made this a very wanted article

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that they had put out. So let's see, Yes, I

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can crack ra sent October nineteen eighty seven. So he's

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stating that he sent the October nineteen eighty seven, stating

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that that's.

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First quietly sent and I'm understanding this for Jack the

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Ripper letters that his father had that was and them. Yeah,

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so he's quietly sending them to the United Kingdom for

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their records. But they wanted to. It's looking like they

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wanted to know what was in them, which was very

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It's amazing.

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So all right, so onto the next slide. Then here

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we have the second of three parts to your solve.

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Go ahead and you read that one for us.

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It's saying it's at the Sentinel of eighteen eighty seven events,

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but it's in a brown envelope, and at that website

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they do have a picture of it as a brown envelope.

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Anyways, from so, you're not talking about the Lilac envelope

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was really brown. You're talking about the you're talking older.

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You're talking about the Jack the Rippers envelope was.

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The one that allegedly or a cent was in a

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brown envelope. A pretty good sized envelope with those stamps,

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which would cost a couple of dollars anyways. Sometimes remember

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so it's from one A this North Saint John's Newfoundland, Canada,

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which has to do with Johnson by the way to England,

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Great Britain with four Royal mail seventeen p I believe

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that's seventeen penny or seventeen pence stamps anyways, two sideways

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nineteen eighty five booklet pain perforations fourteen by fifteen. He's

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pausing because he's having trouble breathing thirty millimeter and forty

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one millimeter with two twenty two cents. Frank J. Wasslick

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stamps flag over Capitol Hill, which they were large. Anyways,

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please focus on the blurry three hundred and fiftieth anniversary stamp.

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He's trying to make a point. You know you need

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to focus on those anyways, has historic first adhees of

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stamp reference eighteen thirty seven Queen Victoria image use for

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eighteen forty historic first anyways, and then has dropping off

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Bureau of Printing and Engraving booklet pain Frank Woslick. Today

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I sent proof I can crack Randolph Apperson, Herst's father,

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William Randolph Hurst. Jack the Ripper letters I sent both

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pac simile of nineteen seventy eight Zodiac earon letter was

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similar standard graphic code found in Jack the Ripper communications

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of postcard and letters. Dear Editor, Jack the Ripper was

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taunting the editors anyways, Zodiac printing knight spelled. I think

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some of the Jack Ripper letters have knight spelled that way. Anyways,

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VPD dash zero Jack the Ripper was taunting the police

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same thing, catch me if can, Yes, it's a Jack

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the Ripper phrase guess I believe is also a Jack

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the Ripper word like ha ha ha ha, I can't

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buy me, that's the question. So it's missing the punktus

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and carogative symbol now known as question mark. They didn't

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in eighteen eighty eight. They didn't call it a question mark,

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but when there was a question it meant punktus interrogator

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Latin anyways, And the letter is missing exclamation marks, just

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like JAF the Ripper ones. So he's saying that yes,

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he's very familiar with this coded system. He can crack

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the CODs and he.

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Has okay, and so William randolph Hurst. How did he

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become in possession of Jack the Ripper letters?

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Do you, from what I'm understanding, by doing these I've

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got now I don't know fifteen of them done. He

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had caught his attention, and I was wondering also because

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he's receiving messages from John Sarat Junior that this is

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happening and there's a search for hemophilia cure, but they're

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going after some victims. Anyways, I found out after a

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couple of weeks that William Randolph Hurst was a leader also,

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and he's the grandson of somebody from the region where

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I believe Catherine Eddos came from. So it's kind of attention.

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He's interested and from what I'm understanding, since he had

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this disorder, he would like to have the cure too,

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and he's getting information about this all the way in

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New York and then also the San Francisco because he's

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got a couple of newspapers and he's only twenty two.

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Now, when did William randolph Hurst run the newspapers or.

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He's running the ones on the East coast and also

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the West coast, but it's mainly San Francisco Examiner. But

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he's also had the New York Journal and I believe

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another one. So he was in New York but mostly

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San Francisco.

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Right, he was a Zodiac or I'm sorry, the Jack

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the Ripper happened overseas in another country, so for him

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to come up. And don't get me wrong, these people

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can get their hands on anything they want. We've seen,

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you know, priceless pieces of arts that have been stolen

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and wind up in some rich person's you know, museum

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in their house undetected. So and we've seen the Zodiac letters,

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you know, make it out of the evidence room and

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into the hands of people that it didn't belong in.

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And then we see other people presenting us with letters

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that nobody's ever seen before and we have no clue

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where they've come from. So it sounds to me like

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what he maybe either why would he have purchased them

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or wanted them if he wasn't erstanding.

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Yeah, these were created, These were created, coded missives that

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look like letters, but their photograh viewer and they're saying

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all those Jack the Rippert letters right now that they

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thought were real or photograh viewers. So and you can

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make the photograph viewer after you sent some code morse code,

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although we across the wires the the Continental Telegraph system,

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because send an image like this across all the way

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to New York, and somebody was there creating it, making

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it look like it's a letter, mailing it across all

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the way to the European area, mainly England, and then

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that person got the system and the newspapers are literally

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telegraphing each other the images.

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So well, I know Jack was definitely using a fax.

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I have a picture of Cindy Crawford, and I'm not

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sure what the year is on that. I might have

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to go back and see if I can determine based

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on his facts where he was literally sending pictures of

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Cindy Crawford by facts, and I'm not sure if it

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was to Dennis or he sent it to himself, or

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how it ended up in Jack's belongings. And I attributed

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to being something that Jack had. But we know that

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he has been using computers and faxes and teletype machines

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and all of the latest technology that occurred during the

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those eras he had access to or the actual machines

465
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:09.359
in his possession long before anybody else did. Okay, so

466
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:13.319
William randolph Hurst was the one that had the hemophilia.

467
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:17.359
Yeah, he apparently was a bleeder, and so does it

468
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:22.559
look like some of these victims were possibly bleeders. And

469
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.480
it looks like Catherine Edos plays a main role role

470
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.079
in this and she's otherwise known as nothing. So when

471
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:34.680
he found Jack found the same phrase nothing, that was

472
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:39.880
actually Catherine Eddos. But it's something that I think really

473
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:44.200
interested him, and he William randolf Hurst made several trips

474
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:48.799
to London eighteen eighty seven I think it is, and

475
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:53.200
definitely eighteen eighty eight, So he's got a connection, a

476
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:53.880
big connection.

477
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:58.720
So if nobody knew that these were coded message messages

478
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:01.880
in regards to Himaphila or the attempt to discover a

479
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:05.200
cure for humophelia, how would he know that these messages

480
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:10.680
or these letters from Jack the Ripper were containing that

481
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:11.599
type of information.

482
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:14.480
He's a School in Bone Society member.

483
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:19.400
He knows the code, so he knows the code. It's

484
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:21.119
the bushes that didn't.

485
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.240
Ye. So and I'm finding out that some of the

486
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.680
people in the newspapers in London also knew the code,

487
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:34.759
especially some of the people involved with the Jack the

488
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.599
Ripper cases. So they had infiltrated that and was sending

489
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:42.880
the information back to William Randolph First, who had a

490
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.880
different interest. He was an interest in selling papers. It's

491
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.920
something I think I'm figured it out. He was very

492
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:50.599
concerned he would like to have the cure.

493
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:56.960
And so I don't think Hurst graduated from Yale. I

494
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.359
think you dropped out to get into the newspaper's business.

495
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:04.799
Well, he's definitely. I had to look it up. I said,

496
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:06.880
I had to do a double take. I already knew this,

497
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.119
but I said, does he really know this? CoSystem? He

498
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.279
scholl in Bone Society one on one. I said he was.

499
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.680
And I'm just saying that he didn't graduate.

500
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:16.839
He dropped out early.

501
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:21.599
He ran publications while they're at school, in college, and

502
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:23.920
he liked it so much, and he didn't really care

503
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:26.359
for his studies that much. But I guess he was

504
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:29.279
involved in Skull and Bones and so, yeah, you're saying

505
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:30.559
that he knows the cook he probably does.

506
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.839
Yeah. Yeah, he would know how to send reviewers too,

507
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.759
because he was running the papers. He knew how to

508
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:41.240
send message what is it? Eighteen sixty eighteen seventy. They

509
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:48.400
were sending back similes fac s. The word was broken up.

510
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:50.480
But they knew how to do that then. So by

511
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.119
the time he got the newspaper system, I mean he

512
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.599
was doing it. He knew how to send messages with

513
00:32:55.920 --> 00:33:00.279
images in the newspapers all across the telegraph wires. Oh

514
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:00.759
my god.

515
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:02.960
And who is this nothing person?

516
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:10.039
Nothing is alias of Catherine Eddos And she's the main

517
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:14.519
person that they were going after for her kidney from

518
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.960
what I'm saying, to get this hemophilia cure.

519
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:21.200
And was she one of the victims of Jack the Ripper?

520
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:27.960
Yeah, and now so he's got a big connection William

521
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:32.519
Randall persons. I think it's starts out as a misunderstanding,

522
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:37.319
like he's involved with this through the coded missus being exchanged.

523
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:40.440
But he you would like to have the.

524
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:45.720
Cure, gotcha? Yeah, well, I guess any hemophiliac would love

525
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:47.839
to have the cure leading to death. Is not your

526
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.880
idea based on a small paper cut of what somebody

527
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:55.680
wants to die from? Yeah, all right, so here's part three.

528
00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:57.440
Go ahead and read that.

529
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:05.559
Okay, saying the zodiac symbol of ross circle also has

530
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.880
code keys and ciphers. So he's trying to tell him,

531
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:11.320
remember me, I'm the guy, Yes, I can do this,

532
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:16.639
and then it's he's interjecting in there. Oh FYI to

533
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:21.760
tell the truth of his fourties tttt. Anyways, I also

534
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:26.280
provided set my DNA on the Robert gray Smith envelope,

535
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:30.280
the Holming card envelope in the adhesive. He's making a

536
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:34.079
point here by the time of the twentieth and twenty

537
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.960
first century, that's not a big deal. But the Queen

538
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.639
Victoria was the first person ever on it. And he's

539
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:45.039
a stamp. Anyways, earth where I stamp. I xerox copied

540
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:49.320
my printing of the nine for nine five zero. I

541
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:53.960
can't read that anyways, bialo hellip envelope. He's a breathing

542
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:59.880
ana for a reason. But anyways, did and I react

543
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:04.480
Jim is very He's making it very pertinent. Yet, yes,

544
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:08.960
I'm the ZODIACU. I always abbreviated things a certain way. Anyways,

545
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:13.320
Using a Lilac color paper for to prove I can

546
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:18.519
crack the circa eighteen eighty eights Wilac Penny stamp R

547
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:23.559
aharst Father's w R. Hurst Jack the Ripper letters sent

548
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:29.440
to Scott Lanyard, care of Queen Elizabeth again, sent October

549
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:33.639
nineteen eighty seven via CIA. This blew my mind when

550
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:37.719
this came out, and an IBM PC four forty computer.

551
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:43.159
I believe Dennis had that using my tt Tattletale Dennis

552
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:49.519
Kaufman America Online account. He had American Online Anyways identification

553
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:53.800
and based on very limited IBM colored data of the

554
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:59.079
October first, eighteen eighty eight Saucy Jackie postcard photograph viewer,

555
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:04.559
which that's only what they have. I had luck if

556
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.559
Dennis wasn't life today and he found out that Jack

557
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:12.320
secretly used his ification and Jack was still alive, I

558
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:14.960
know exactly what Dennis would be doing. He'd be selling

559
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:18.880
with his big eight thousand dollars guitar and get the

560
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:22.039
money and get a couple of drivers and go drive

561
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:24.199
back east to go knock the shit out of them.

562
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:29.920
And it will currently be one of the drivers.

563
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:35.880
So the Halloween card was sent to Avery, Paul Avery.

564
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:39.320
So what is the Robert Graysmith Halloween card?

565
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:43.000
Oh, he was saying that he was actually a lot

566
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.719
of that was meant for Robert Graysmith. And the stamp,

567
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:50.440
the earth Rise stamp, which is that he's of. He

568
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:56.719
said he sent the JFK microfilm things pictures or whatever.

569
00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:02.599
The the the a friend of Danis Joplin who took

570
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:06.840
some certain pictures at the NASA autopsy. So but he's

571
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.400
saying that he licked that stamp, and he's I think

572
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.000
everybody in the Grandmother agrees that it seems to be

573
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:19.159
the only real document pertaining to Zodiac is that envelope

574
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:23.920
and the stamp and the card. So he's definitely saying

575
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:27.079
that he had linked that he left his DNA on that.

576
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:30.960
Now, this wouldn't be the first time that there were

577
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.320
claims of DNA being sent. Of course, we saw in

578
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.119
the Tom Poyt letters in two thousand and so this

579
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:40.719
is following if this letter is truly being facsimilid in

580
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:44.280
two thousand and two thousand and one, this is shortly

581
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:46.960
before the two thousand and two and two thousand and

582
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.000
three letters to Tom Voight, where again that the Zodiac

583
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:53.239
is attempting to state he has sent his DNA. So

584
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:57.440
this would I mean, we know that the Zodiac loved

585
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.719
to repeat himself in some of the communications as to

586
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:03.119
his acts or what he's done. So if he's saying

587
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:05.159
in two thousand and one, I've sent my DNA, you

588
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:09.559
can find it under this particular stamp, then he turns

589
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:12.880
around and re sends it again to Tom Voyd. Obviously

590
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:16.239
he's trying to impress upon people that he is the

591
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:22.840
real deal, and he's rest to gotcha and photog reviewer.

592
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:24.840
Can you explain that I've heard you say it a

593
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:25.840
couple of times.

594
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:30.280
I read try to understand it. But it's where, let's

595
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:35.440
pretend I'm creating this using a quilt pan the ink

596
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:39.480
and stuff on the paper, and I'm literally like an

597
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:42.960
art form because it is very artistic looking, and I'm

598
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:49.239
writing it out. Somebody would be taking, with the nineteenth

599
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:53.880
century equipment a picture of that, and then it's sent

600
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:58.360
to I believe a place where it's going to etche

601
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:03.039
out uh, and it's all done my people, but they're

602
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:05.559
itching it and they're doing something with it, and then

603
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:10.039
they're putting the color like it's black ink and they're

604
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:15.360
actually like reproducing this art form of this letter and

605
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:20.199
then learn yeah, and then then it's being actually able

606
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.840
to be used in a newspaper. And so what people

607
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:28.719
were seeing was looking very close to the nineteenth century handwriting.

608
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:33.400
I'm trying to do it, but it's somebody who's imitated

609
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:36.519
it and did a fact simile of it or the

610
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:37.840
newspaper so.

611
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:42.960
That it'll be close right, which nobody could ever be

612
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:45.079
exact or precise.

613
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:47.920
This will take a document examiner to know that this

614
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:50.440
is only ninety nine percent. This is not the.

615
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:55.239
Author, gotcha? So now this is page two of two.

616
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:59.880
So this I believe is either is this an explan

617
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:03.559
nation of it or is this a continuation he's continuing.

618
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:07.360
He's continuing that that he's found that he had luck

619
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:10.960
and he just like I did for me. It was

620
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:13.800
an educated guest, but he said, I found the code

621
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:18.519
keys our president, Benjamin Harrison. It's the same school in

622
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:23.679
bones society code system. I know how to create such code.

623
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:29.039
Admission by so and he's repeating himself again, So who

624
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:29.760
was president?

625
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:31.840
Who was President Benjamin Harrison?

626
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:36.559
He was the guy like Nixon of nineteen sixty eight

627
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.480
going to be the next president. He was going to

628
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:41.719
be the president elect.

629
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.400
So when was he going to be president?

630
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:48.119
Yeah, he became president, but he was going to be president.

631
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:51.400
Now think back to nineteen sixty eight and we've done

632
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:55.679
shows where there's a solber tude that's saying that Nixon

633
00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:58.920
is going to be the president. So he's going to

634
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.519
do the Zodiac it's going to be a big deal

635
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:05.079
by nineteen sixty nine. This was happening also in eighteen

636
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:05.599
eighty eight.

637
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:09.599
So oh, so Benjamin Harrison is from eighteen eighty eight.

638
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.960
Yeah, he's going to be the president by eighteen eighty nine.

639
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:19.360
He's a shoe in. And so they came up and

640
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:20.960
the first.

641
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:26.199
Roosevelt that era, gotcha. Okay, all right, go ahead, keep reading.

642
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:29.039
So anyways, it's saying I know how to create such

643
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:33.159
coded missus by so again I can prac them. Civil

644
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:38.119
War Lincoln Confederate Secret Service spy John Sarath the second

645
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:43.079
in messages to William Randolph Hurst. He photographed, viewer printed

646
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.599
both the sp That's why it was so important as

647
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:52.800
I saw the SPA seventeen for the stamps. Anyways, that's

648
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:58.360
nineteenth century abbreviation for September seventeenth, eighteen eighty eight sp

649
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:04.440
September twenty seventh, the eighteen eighty eight. There's two, two

650
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.599
separate ones. One's a postcard, one's a letter. Anyways, he's

651
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:13.119
saying that something about punctus interrogatorbis has no question mark

652
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:17.320
simple and there was outprey to question and interrogate, which

653
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:21.239
was true. The suspects. And then it's say decoded missive

654
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:26.440
say Detective William Thick, which is true penned. They believe

655
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:29.840
he pinned the brick wall message a lot of people

656
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:35.400
and the anyways containing word nothing. It's the Jews of

657
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.280
nothing will be blamed for the Jews of the death.

658
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:42.840
Is kind of complex anyways, Fred Best signed letters, yours truly,

659
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:47.119
Jack the Ripper and the Open Saw is one one,

660
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:51.800
nineteen thirty one. Fred at age seventy one. He decoded

661
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:56.039
that one, so did I, Young William Randolph. First Everleen

662
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:59.760
has your head a graved on his walking stick. Commander

663
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:04.039
commemorating like my Queen. This is phrases that are in

664
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:09.039
that decoded missive commemorating like Mike Queen eighteen thirty seven.

665
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:13.800
Visit to London Hope d V which is Dale Valente

666
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:18.519
God willing that minute and that means tiny Catherine Eddos,

667
00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:23.119
Kidney and wine sent to George Lusk and then Elizabeth

668
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:28.000
Stride is another victim the Five Gals from eight six,

669
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:32.599
eighteen eighty eight onward to nine thirty, eighteen eighty eight.

670
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:37.079
The victims were Pope Leo the thirteenth and doctor J. W.

671
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:42.960
Legg to Birmingham, England by November eleventh, eighteen eighty eight.

672
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:47.920
Pure hemophilia. He got the same stuff, By god, my god. Anyways,

673
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:50.880
the truth is Jack the Ripper is the mayor of

674
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:56.239
London eighteen eighty eight. Polydor de Kaiser arrest doctor Templete.

675
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:59.320
There's several Dakota messages I got there demanding him to

676
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:03.920
be arrested and punked. This punk Thiss interrogator is both

677
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:08.559
the Kaiser and Tumblet, And doctor Tumblet does get arrested

678
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:13.639
November eighth, eighteen eighty eight, and post bailed by November sixteenth,

679
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:18.079
eighteen eighty eight. And he's saying on these messages between

680
00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:23.079
John Sarat and William Randolph Hearth relayed from London location

681
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:27.239
to San Francisco location, and he's signing off as to

682
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.639
too to John Terrence the second.

683
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:32.440
Now that was another one of my questions. Why would

684
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:35.320
he flip and start calling himself John in these messages

685
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:37.639
instead of Jack. I mean, I know Jack used both

686
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:38.440
Jack and Joy.

687
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:41.880
She didn't want to get confused. So you've got two

688
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.280
president Bushes, You've got two popes in the nineteenth century.

689
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:48.199
You got another pope that he's dealing with that just died.

690
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:54.280
You've got I think he didn't want to sign off

691
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.039
as Jack because he already had Jack the Ripper. So

692
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:01.199
I think he's trying to separate himself. I'm I'm not

693
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:04.400
that jam So I'm gonna take us.

694
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:07.199
I'm gonna take us back a little bit. We've got

695
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:09.840
a couple of minutes here. But Detective William Thick was

696
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:11.760
the detective in the Jack the Ripper.

697
00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:13.239
Definitely.

698
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:19.880
Let's see here, young w R. Aberlen has your head engraved.

699
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:20.760
Who's Aberlen?

700
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.880
He's one of the detectives also, And there is the

701
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:28.239
walking stick that has the head and it does look

702
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:31.840
like a very young twenty one year old William Rambo first,

703
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:33.519
So all right?

704
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:37.039
And who is the.

705
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:39.800
Brother of Mary?

706
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:44.280
No, that's the Sun. That's the Sun.

707
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:50.920
And I think Mary was prosecuted in the aftermath of

708
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:56.239
the Lincoln assassination. Yeagers with John Wilkes smooth and so

709
00:45:56.440 --> 00:46:00.760
is so is tumbletea Tumblety was an allegrical spirit or too.

710
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:04.360
But here's the twist. I was wondering, why am I

711
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:07.800
seeing such a chummy affiliation with John Sarat and what's

712
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:13.400
going on here? John Harrison Sarat is a Harrison family member.

713
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:17.559
Of course, Benjamin Harrison is the president coming. But when

714
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:24.239
you trace Abraham Lincoln's family back to the Revolutionary War, Eric,

715
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:27.599
he's linked to the Harrison family too, so they're all family.

716
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:31.199
They're all family. So Johnson such.

717
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:36.239
A trad John Wills Booth and Mary Sarat's house after

718
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.440
he fled the scene, because when he jumped from the

719
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:42.519
balcony or whatever, he broke his leg and he lived,

720
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:47.760
and they stopped. They stayed at Mary Sarat's house, and

721
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:51.079
there's allegations that a doctor helped mend him.

722
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:55.320
That Okay, it just wouldn't be surprised if it was

723
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:59.519
doctor Tumbledee. But he's he's in London with this mess,

724
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:05.039
and that I'm surprised. I'm when I'm picking up is

725
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:09.039
John Sarat was actually on the side of Lincoln, but

726
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:11.559
was such a good spy they didn't notice him. But

727
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:16.079
that's the reason why Lincoln's Lincoln won, because this guy

728
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:20.239
is he gets them tried. A couple of years later,

729
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:23.559
they find him in the Papal States and you know,

730
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:27.440
he's working for the Pope. Like it's amazing, I got

731
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.079
two John's working for the pope are connected to the pope.

732
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:35.880
He got John Serant and John Darrence the popes anyways.

733
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:39.639
And you're saying John Sarat was the spy.

734
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:44.800
He's definitely a spy. So he has the owned society

735
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.320
system too. Well, I'd sure like to find some letters

736
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.079
by him right now.

737
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:53.320
Pope Leo the thirteen was he also a hemophiliac.

738
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:57.599
He suffered from something that they said happened to do

739
00:47:57.679 --> 00:47:59.840
with a lot of bleeding, So I think he was

740
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:04.440
quietly a leader if that's where he got his Trevor from.

741
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:08.599
They said there was something going on and uh, bleeders

742
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:14.519
can cost tremors, gotcha, So he'd be interested in the

743
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:15.039
cure too.

744
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:18.559
Yeah, yeah, I mean if you're low, if your blood,

745
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:21.079
if your blood is low, I'm sure that shakiness is

746
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.400
something that's going to come up and that would create

747
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:26.559
tremors for sure. Let me see if I have any

748
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.119
other questions. So is there anything else that you would

749
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:29.920
like to ask? Nolan?

750
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:31.960
Oh?

751
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:32.559
Not today?

752
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:39.559
Okay, Well, here's one of the covers to your I'm

753
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:42.119
guessing this is your book that you've put out on

754
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:44.760
the decodes, and you were saying that there was an

755
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:48.000
individual that also decoded the same things that you were decoded,

756
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:48.639
who was that.

757
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:55.119
It's looking like Fred Best knew how to decode this stuff,

758
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:58.719
and he's he's not a nice guy. He's threatening. I

759
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:01.679
got some decodedness of saying that they're threatening to kill

760
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:04.880
William Randall. First, shut up, stop talking about this stuff.

761
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:06.679
He's London.

762
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:11.480
But you're saying that he decoded similar messages that you

763
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:15.320
found in this last half or this last paragraph here,

764
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:19.920
the things like the five gals from eight six, eighteen

765
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:21.840
eighty eight victims, that would.

766
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:27.320
Be that's John knew how to code these and decode them,

767
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.239
and William Randall first knew how to from what I'm seeing,

768
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:33.800
to decode this also, but also to send things in code.

769
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:38.519
So we're most of Jackie Rupper's victims prostitutes.

770
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:44.880
They're allegs to be prostitutes. Apparently edos may not have

771
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:51.639
been your typical institutions I think giving information anyway.

772
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:54.679
All right, you guys, well we've hit the end here.

773
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:57.159
I want to thank you Harriet for clearing all of

774
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.280
this up and setting mind on some time type of

775
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:03.599
a track here. We're going to continue, obviously with this

776
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:06.639
next week. I want everybody to have a wonderful weekend.

777
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.920
Thank you both again for being here and if there's

778
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:12.559
any questions you guys, think up or Nolan anything you

779
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:14.679
want to ask. Next week we will be back at

780
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:16.599
this to do too.

781
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:18.079
Do you do?

782
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:36.280
Hey hear you guys. Bye bye