Zodiac Killer sends 4th Letter and More

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True seekers and true crime junkies.
Welcome back to another episode of Hint the

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Road Jack Finding the Zodiac. We
were going to bring up the presentation right

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now. At this point, I
just want to cover some things from last

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week and then we'll get right into
the show. I'm extremely excited we're going

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to be covering more of the Zodiac
communications and murders that are happening at this

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time. Last week, we were
talking about some of the spacing issues or

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some of the consistencies between letters,
and in doing so, I was discussing

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this with Terry b who's been on
the show before. He had noticed some

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of the images that I had for
the John Benet Ramsey note were not what

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he believed them to be, so
we took a look and did a comparison

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of the images that we both had, and I found that he had extremely

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great images. And as we can
see here what he was focused on with

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that letter Z in the John Bene
Ramsey note, and of course this is

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the image that he gave me from
the letters that he has, and you

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can see how that compares in quality
to what I have. We see some

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distinct differences obviously in the form,
which I don't necessarily know that that means

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that anything was altered as much as
it's just a bad generational copy and it's

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not picking up a lot of the
minute form that I've been looking for.

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So I am glad to be able
to say now I will be working off

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of a very good quality version of
this letter, and we will pick up

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that handwriting examination in comparison in nineteen
ninety six when we get to JBR.

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But while I was doing that,
and of course he focused in on the

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word pick up from JBR, we
had the pick off that came from both

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the Zodiac and the Atlanta Georgia child
Killer, and so when I lined those

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up, I just wanted to kind
of see how everything fell now between the

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Zodiac and the Child Georgia or Atlanta
Georgia child killer. We can see that

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the spacing an alignment of the words
pickoff are exactly the same. I was

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blown away when I put these up
underneath each other, just to kind of

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get an idea and see how things
fell. We do know that the Zodiac

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had a hard right slant that may
also be due to the use of drugs

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and other things that were occurring at
that point. And we know that the

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Atlanta, Georgia child killer did more
of that shaky style writing that we saw

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on the John Benet Ramsey note,
which was more controlled obviously. But I

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also noticed this form here that in
this oh that you see is actually a

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form we're going to see in the
gall in sharp letters. So it's almost

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as if he carries images even in
the way he forms letters from one communication

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to the next. Either way,
I want to welcome Nolan del Campbell to

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the show this morning again. Hi
there, good morning. So excited to

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be jumping into the Zodiac stuff again. I am as well, Yeah,

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we're going to actually did I've been
working well, working with I've been communicating

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by email with a gallon a moonlight, and she has been tracing the homicide

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victims or unidentified bodies of victims and
trying to make connections between those and murders

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that have occurred throughout the state of
California. As it pertains to the Zodiac

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Killer. She is more interested in
the hitchhiker murders. But I see that

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she's kind of getting involved with all
kinds of stuff. So I've just threw

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this up here because obviously sixty three
through sixty nine has already passed, so

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I'm going to have to go back
and take a look. I do not

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have these people, I believe in
the presentation and see how that those murders

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occurred. What struck me odd when
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that we had Monterey, Santa Cruz, and there's actually a couple from the

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Monterey area that's in this list,
And those were murders that I had not

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been able to attribute to. Sandy
Ben's murder map, which she found in

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her mailbox in the late eighties at
some point in time, and it had

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an arrow drawing down, so the
map was really more of the Bay area

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Sacramento area. You will get a
was pointing off to Sacramento and how many

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people he had killed in that direction. He also had arrows pointed down to

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Santa Cruz and he had claimed four
victims by way of placing a star there.

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So if we were to perceive that
this murder map is in fact from

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the Zodiac killer who was taunting Sandy
Betts, it led me to believe there

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were four unaccounted murders in the Santa
Cruz area. And now we actually see

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some of those murders on this list. So I will be getting back to

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see how those tie in, what
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we'll catch up on that research at
another time, and I will continue on

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in nineteen seventy with researching Patricia and
King, because that is in fact back

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in the Bay area. Santa Cruz, Santa Clara, and Marey are all

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pretty close together. Right. Another
thing, though, a name I'm not

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seen on that list is Donna Lass. That's because these are unsolved are the

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gems that are found and solved murders. And then she's trying to relate like

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the one that says unidentified dead on
seven six of sixty nine. They don't

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know who that victim is, but
we do have missing girls that have gone

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missing, so she's trying to like
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Right, always interesting everybody's take on
how they go about visiting these spaces.

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So basically we have on August fourth
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what's called Lompoc Jane Doe. So
this is the first murder after the the

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letters from the Zodiac claiming the initial
four victims in the Bay area. Lompoc.

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I was not shocked to see was
actually right next to Bandenburg Space Force

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Base, which we know that in
the Dominus murders there the lock number on

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the shells that were found that they
were killed with traced back to Bandenburg Air

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Force Base. So I thought that
there right between purchased yeah and the Domino

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said words too yes, And evidently
let's see. So she was just over

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five feet tall and one hundred and
twenty five pounds, shoulder length brown hair.

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She is still unidentified to my knowledge, that was dyed a reddish blonde.

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She was wearing sandals, a blue
blouse, and homemade white pants decorated

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with a blue floral print. One
witness placed her at Gaviota State Beach days

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before her murder, and we see
Gaviota down here and there is some other

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cases in this presentation that are in
Gaviota, so we're going to see that

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area more than once. She was
stabbed at least fifteen times and her throat

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had been slit, so that's definitely
as we've seen so far. Some of

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the crimes that have been included have
been have included cutting the neck, such

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as Sherry Joe Bates. She was
found near a quarry, so I always

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have either a waterway dump, a
quar dump, train station dumps things like

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this, so the quarry dump also
tied in, so I pulled this one

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in. She was dumped down an
embankment near Highway one, close to the

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Bandenburg Space for Space. Now I
already talked about DOMAINUS and Edwards there,

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and it looks like we had some
pathologist. Doctor Doctor Robert Failing was the

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person who had done the autopsy on
her, and he was a retired forensic

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pathologist who'd done the autopsy on Jane. Doe mentioned the case and how the

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girl aged somewhere in her mid to
late teens or perhaps a few years older,

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but had protruding buck teeth and nineteen
fairly recently filled cavities, so that

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doctor failing thought should have sparked public
attention, but there were no reports of

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a missing person fitting the description,
and I would think that's rather odd.

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I'm not sure what you'd think,
Nolan, but if you had recent dental

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work, then you're obviously not some
vague rent. You're not homeless. You're

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not you know, hopping from place
to place, especially if you had as

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many as nineteen cavities done. That's
amazingties. Well, maybe she didn't have

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good oral hygiene during her you know, early years, but at some point

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made it to the dentist and got
everything corrected. At one time, you'd

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have thought this would have thrown up
some flags somewhere as far as her identification

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was concerned, but to this date
she is still unidentified. That's well right

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now. In the Zodiac Killer search
query in the FBI foy A vault,

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I was running, like I do
with each one of these cases. I

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look to see what the FBI has
on them, and when I pull that

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search query, I look to see
also what that brings up, because sometimes

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there is connections back and forth.
We can clearly see here that the Zodiac

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Killer runs to part four of six
and then jumps straight into the Atlanta child

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murders. Like I'm saying that communication
is extremely consistent. He takes credit for

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the Zodiac crimes. We just saw
the lineup of the word pick off as

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it referred to the kiddies on the
school bus, So I do think there

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is a direct connection. But it
was not a shock to see that that

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was included in this search query when
I ran Zodiac Killer. There's also the

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Bramer kidnapping, which continually comes up, though I'm not sure he's involved with

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it. The insane clown posse.
I'm very interested in seeing what that's about

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if I ever have some time.
Are they Yeah, I don't. I

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don't care for clowns at all.
Your followers are frightening as well. Really

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yeah, it got kind of a
little cult going on there. Huh yeah.

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Yeah. It also listed Jonestown,
dB Cooper. Not a shock.

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Again. We're going to talk about
how those letters fit in. We've already

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seen the handwriting, but it did
go on and it also brought in Richard

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Ramirez and there was Jonestown again.
So I just thought that was interesting.

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And the next letter we're going to
pick up with on the Zodiac case will

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actually make everyone question Michael Majoe's accounts, we if we remember correctly, he

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was the only one that I think
put the age of the Zodiac in the

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area of a round twenty six or
in the twenties somewhere, and then fingered

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Allah or Arthur Lee Allen sorry you
guys, at a later date, in

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which case he looked nothing like any
of the other descriptions and was obviously quite

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a bit older than twenty something at
that time, so he erroneously fingered Arthur

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Lee Allen. And after reading the
Zodiac's letter, I was convinced that Michael

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Majoe probably was just attempting to do
his best to help, but he probably

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did not really see what was going
on with the person who was his attacker.

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All Right, so this is the
well, it's the fourth letter,

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but it is the second letter in
the series because the first three were actually

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a three part that said pretty much
the same thing, containing that cipher that

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was broken by the hardens. This
letter is written again, dear editor,

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This is the Zodiac speaking in answer
to your asking for more details about the

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good times I've had in Valeo.
I shall be happy to supply even more

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material. By the way, are
the police having a good time with the

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code. If not tell them to
cheer up when they do crack it,

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they will have me. On the
fourth of July. Fourth of July,

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I did not open the card door. The window was rolled down already.

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The boy was originally sitting in the
front seat, so now he's talking about

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Mike Mijoe when I began firing.
When I fired the first shot at his

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head, he leaped backwards at the
same time, thus spoiling my aim.

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He oh gosh. He ended up
on the back seat, then the then

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the floor in the back thrashing out
very violently with his legs. That's how

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I shot him in the knee.
I didn't leave the crime or the scene

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of the killing with squealing tires and
racing engine. As described in the Valleo

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paper, I drove away quite slowly
so as not to draw attention to my

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car. The man who told the
police that my car was brown was a

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Negro about forty to forty five,
rather shabbily dressed. I was at this

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phone booth having some fun with the
Valeo cops when he was walking by.

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When I hung the phone up,
the damn and of course spilled incorrectly explative

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expletive thing began to ring, and
that drew his attention to me and my

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car last Christmas. In that episode, the police were wondering as to how

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I could shoot and hit my victims
in the dark. They did not openly

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state this, but implied this by
saying it was a well lit night and

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I could see the silhouettes on the
horizon. Bullshit. I'm sorry that and

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I know right, but he's mad. Bullshit. That area is surrounded by

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high hills and trees. What I
did was tape a small pencil flashlight to

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the barrel of my gun. If
you notice in the center of the beam

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of light, if you aim it
at a well, at a wall or

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ceiling, you will see a black
or dark spot in the center of the

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circle of light, approximately three to
six inches across. When take to a

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gun barrel, the bullet will strike
exactly in the center of the black dot

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in the light. All I had
to do was spray them as if it

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was a water hose, and there
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I was not happy to see that
I did not get front page cover

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or coverage. He likes to break
his rooms up and then it's it's sign

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off, no address. So this
is the first time that he indicates that

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he is the Zodiac. And this
letter is shown to be written on August

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seventh of nineteen sixty nine, just
I think a day or so before the

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Hardens actually crack his code. So
he's wondering whether or not they had a

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good time with it. Now,
I see that in Dennis's book that he

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wrote in there, Mike Majoe survived
but did not get a good look at

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his attacker because the attackers shine a
flashlight in their face. And that brings

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me to the whole concept of Mike
Majoe's initial statements where he stated that he

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saw a profile of the killer.
If you have a flashlight that's being shined

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in your eyes, how is it
that you saw a profile of anything?

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Right? And he would have been
looking straight at his face because he would

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have been aiming the gun forward,
so he would be looking forward, not

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he wouldn't have been sideways exactly.
There. Yeah, there's some some definite

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questionability there in regards to what he
thinks he saw. Now, Mike Majoe's

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statement is that he saw the suspect
from the side profile, but the Zodiac

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says he has this flashlight on him, so how did he see anything?

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And then Mike and Majau says that
he seen the suspect in his own car

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by the car accessory light when the
Zodiac went to get into it. Yet

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the Zodiac says that he was down
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Now, I don't know who in
their right mind would want to get up

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and put their face into a window
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what that person's doing. So I
really wondered if he actually was able to

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take a glance at the killer at
that time either. No, I think

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he was flailing his feet and legs
to deflect bullets to protect his head and

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torso well, and if he's down
on the floorboard, what are the chances?

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I mean, most people would,
probably, if they had any sense

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at all, try to play dead
after being shot. You know, they're

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curious thing about Majou in gracemiths,
but Zodiac and mask, he says Masau

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was worrying multiple layers of clothing that
correct, almost as if he knew something

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was going to happen. Yes,
or he was trying to make himself look

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beefier. Anyway, it was yeah, well fourth of July, though,

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what's that? What didn't that happen
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I believe was blue Rock Springs.
That was the first one, and

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then Christ was the second murders,
which were late Herman Road. Um,

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yeah, okay, that was Christ. Okay, that's okay, that's okay.

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Um. And of course this is
addressed to the editor. We're going

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to see that. This is a
running theme with pretty much everything. We

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even seen it all the way back
into the Black Dahlia. I mean,

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he definitely was writing the press along
with the police department and sometimes the victims

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family. Um, he's talking about
fun that he's had, and fun is

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a theme that runs throughout all of
these these particular communications. I'll point him

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out when it occurs. He will
supply more proof about the crime. So

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it's really important that they take him
as they want. He wants them to

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know that he is the person that
perpetrated them. He has the letter E

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edition error, which is intentionally left
behind on line nine and eighteen, and

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I have those here. So on
line nine we have the E that's here

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in having and we have these large
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so we see that the hav is
actually quite close to each other. The

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E has a nice space, and
then before the I n G is another

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nice space that tells me the person
stopped slowed down. They're writing in order

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to perpetrate that spelling error error to
make it appear as though they were either

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illiterate or uneducated. Either way,
I find that it is the way that

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it keeps happening. Even if we
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the FI R has a natural spacing
between both of them, and then we

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see quite a generous space between the
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the I. So once again I
find that these were more or less just

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planted attempts at misspelling versus real true
spelling errors. Let's see. Okay,

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so he has a reference to crack
it, and where did we see that?

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Right here? So to cheer up
when they do crack it, they

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will have me. Well, crack
becomes one of those themes that the Zodiac

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continues to use. He's crack proof, you can't crack me kind of thing.

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And then in Black Dahlia, one
of his letters or cutout letters where

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he used a magazine to create that
communication. He actually wrote in it Dahlia's

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murderer cracking, So I wanted everybody
to see that crack is definitely crack is

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a theme it crack kills. Hyphenation
is used here where clearly there's enough room

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to complete the words. I pointed
that out because all we had was an

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ED that ended up on this next
line. But clearly the size of that

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hyphen that was used at the end
of end would have bided enough space for

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him to do the ED. So
it's almost as if that was either some

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type of a ruse, or if
you believe Harriett Suchet, then that might

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be a tip off point for some
type of code like read between here and

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their type thing. The water watermark
that's found on the paper is fifth Avenue,

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which is the watermark of the F. W. Woolworth Company in the

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Woolworth Building from New York, New
York. Slide three or five. Murder

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of Mary pinshow Meyer in New York
in nineteen sixty four could be where the

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zodiac picked up this watermark paper.
So I look at round at where these

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papers are coming from. But he
always seems to choose quality paper. I'm

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pretty sure Mary Meyer was killed in
DC. Right. She was one of

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JFK's mistresses, Ohan and the umber
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Exactly. Yes, I think,
yes, we've already covered that one,

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and maybe yep, maybe I just
need to make a small correction there.

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I don't know why weh so maybe
while he was in New York getting

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the paper. I'm thinking that this
murder was all also committed. So DC's

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not too far off obviously from where
he would be if he was in New

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York. And we do know that
there was active MK ultra going on in

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New York as well, so that
this could be a stopping point where a

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briefing point or you know, someplace
that the Zodiac killers stopped at while he

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was committing other crimes, because we
do have a series of murders that were

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actually in New York as well.
I had this written down as received on

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August fourth. Obviously that's incorrect.
The law enforcement log shows that it was

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August seventh, sixty nine that it
was sent, so it would have been

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received at some point after the seventh. The reference to having fun Let's see

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here the letter he's spelling. Nerds
are found on line three and eleven of

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the second page. Noticed the large
spacing before and after. This would suggest

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that the author had to think about
the letter he placed to deceive. Natural

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handwriting would not single out that particular
letter in certain words unless it was intentional.

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So reference to calling into the police
shortly after the crime and almost getting

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caught is definitely what occurred with Sherry
Joe Bates. As well. There's the

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confession letter where the suspect says that
he did call into the police as confirmation

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that the letter was from him.
The Zodiac trait is to make contact when

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someone has said something wrong and in
Jack's eyes, or when they are giving

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too much interest to a suspect for
one of his crimes. In line twenty

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three through twenty five of this letter, it shows that the Zodiac was mad

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and that they portrayed him as something
other than a professional killer, or I

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would say, what is that a
bad sport? So basically, they were

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making it sound as though he wasn't
as good as he was, and he

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needed to let them know that he
was better. Line five uses the hyper

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fussy construction so as not to draw
attention, so that so as is not

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necessary, but he includes it So
it's that hyper fussy construction that the linguistics

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professor from UC Davis talked about when
he did the linguistics on the Zodiac and

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Jack and an attempt to sound intelligent. Jack was very intelligent, but I

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think his people skills and ability to
articulate things in a manner that complemented his

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education and knowledge based capabilities is where
he lacked. So he tried to sound

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important, which was all about ego. Yes, that's a theme that runs

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throughout the zoet communications right, the
ram perhaps the consternation. He uses some

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rather large words to be making little
spelling errors like that letter e, especially

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when it feels the media or the
plea or kind of making seem not intelligent.

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Then then he gets came mad exactly. Yeah. Well, and I

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think after the statement by Brian Hartnew
where he indicated that the person was not

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illiterate but not well educated, he
wanted to say, wad minute, you're

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now challenging my ego. When he
said that the area that he had shot

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Majoe Inn was covered by high hills
and trees, He's absolutely right. Lake

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Kerman Road, the area where this
murderous happened was absolutely surrounded when you're standing

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in it, you feel like you're
in a small bubble. You have hills

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and trees all around you. You
really can't see anything outside of that.

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So I think he was probably correct
when he stated that he wasn't doing it

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by the horizon or by moonlight.
The Zodiac goes on to give specifics to

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prove once again that it was him, and to explain the electric gunsight that

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he speaks about in a future letter
other than the typical spelling errors and prove

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it to use statement. The most
intriguing aspect of this letter is the signature

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no address. It wasn't until months
into this investigation that I realized Jack was

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giving his location, which at this
time was literally nowhere. He did not

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have an address, and he was
said to be living out of a converted

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bus he got from his sister and
brother in law. In Dennis Kaufman's book,

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he again refers to this flashlight because
he knows that Jack as an avid

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hunter. Said that Jack was a
hunter, and there was plenty of land

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around there to hunt. He would
take me with him sometimes. I remember

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when we went at night, he
would mount a flashlight on top of his

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gun. You could see eyes from
animals at night with the flashlight, then

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you would just aim right between them. In nineteen seventy four, Zodiac mailed

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at least three letters, and they
were mailed from the Bay area, and

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at that time it says they were
living near Placerville. So I had kind

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of mapped this out early on.
When I took a look at the murders,

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it seemed that Jack's hunting radius is
approximately two hours from wherever he might

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be at that particular hour and a
half to two hours. Of course,

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that was the outlying areas where we
would find bodies that were dumped, or

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bodies that were or people that were
kidnapped. I don't need to really go

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over all of the spelling or errors
with everybody, but we do note that

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there is the letter E and then
there is the double letter. And that

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double letter spelling error could either be
the absence of the second letter that should

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have required two, or the inclusion
of two letters, like in the word

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already we saw in that particular letter
was spelled a L L R E A

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D Y. So those are some
of the things that we will see him

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going on here. In one line, he'll spell it the word correctly in

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the next line of the communication,
he will misspell it. So again,

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that may very well be a ruse
as well. And I have not seen

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the envelope to this, I do
not have any idea what that looks like

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on the no address. That's really
weird. Can we go back that for

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her second Yeah? Okay, the
slant is way different. There's a big

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gap between the no and the address. And look at the second D.

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It looks first D. Again,
that's that double letter spelling error. I

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think that he um, he omitted
that second D at first and then went

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back and placed it in realizing he
had misspelled it. So I think that

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the double letter spelling error might viably
be a real or again, he's just

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on drugs and his brain is going
faster than his hand is capable of writing,

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and he's already onto the R before
he's done with the d's Yeah,

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he's there later and add the D. Yeah. Um. Here was just

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the actual FOYA file from the Federal
Bureau of An Investigation talking about the fifth

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Avenue and Woolworth relation of the watermarked
paper that was used in that communication,

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which is actually different is a different
type of paper than We're going to continue

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to see that he uses further on
in these communications on August. Let's see,

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on August eighth, we see that
the Hardens solve this. We've already

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talked about what the solve was and
we've covered what that worked out too.

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They solved everything, but the last
eighteen symbols on that particular cipher, and

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the Navy and the FBI failed to
break it in a week's worth of effort.

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So it kind of shocks me.
How is it that the Navy and

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the FBI failed to crack something that
some history teachers crack. I'm either saying

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they solved it already and already knew
what it said and wasn't releasing it,

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or they are not the smartest cookies
in the bunch. I don't get it.

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I think the former I think they
probably knew. They just didn't want

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the public to go right. Yeah, it's pretty I like killing people like

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as a sport. That's kind of
a yeah, that's kind of a horrendous

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thing for people to hear. Definitely
meant that there was going to be more,

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that's for sure. Yes, Oh, I like oh okay, So

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that brings us to the tape murders
and the Manson family members. Now,

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of course, I do not believe
that the Zodiac was involved with the actual

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murders of these individuals, since we
do know who committed these crimes and they

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have been imprisoned for pretty much all
of their lives. I did a little

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bit of reading and found that one
of them is likely coming up. They

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or they've been approved for parole,
but it hasn't been granted as of yet.

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And that was one of the females
that was involved. That's Leslie van

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Houghton. And the appellate court just
overturned Newsome's vieto over parole a few months

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back. The parole board actually recommended
that she be really eased, but Newsom

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vieto debt for political reasons. He
doesn't want to be the one who,

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you know, goes down on record
as letting one of the Manson people get

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out, so he vetoed it.
But the Pellet Court overturned his veto,

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So we'll see what happens. He
can appeal to the Supreme Court on that,

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but we'll see what happens. But
I think she's going to get out,

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right, I mean, I thought
the whole premise here is is could

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she possibly be a danger to anyone
else, and out of her age,

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it's probably not likely. I mean, she's going to struggle pretty hard with

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just getting back into society, and
she's gonna be fairly busy with trying to

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regroup a life, I would think, right she was nineteen at the time

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of the murders. She went along
reluctantly. She wasn't involved in the Tape

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murders. She was involved in the
law Beyonca murders. But the whole issue

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of the main narrative on both sets
of murders that was told by Susan Atkins

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to fellow inmates in jail at Civil
Brand in Los Angeles, that's being called

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into question by this twenty sixteen book
Chaos that I'm reading right now, that

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it may not be the truth.
What do you mean of how the murders

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went down and why why? Because
the prosecution Boogliosi mainly had a whole theory

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set up helter skelter. Was this
theory the race war blah blah blah.

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You know, they did the murders
to start a race war, and that

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they went down the way that Susan
Atkins said they went down. But this

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particular book says there's a lot more
going on than Susan Atkins version, and

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Boogliosi kind of molded her words and
to fit his theory. Gotcha. Uh,

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it's open question as to how it
all went down. Yeah, I

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mean to I had kind of I'm
sorry, I kind of wondered. Obviously,

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these are some very rich, influential
people. We're talking about Polanski here,

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right, I mean, there is
a good chance or a good opportunity

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that these could have been purposeful hits, not necessarily just a rite. And

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that's why it made the presentation,
because it didn't feel to me to be

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like some you know, rabid person
that's just out there running a muck and

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decided to pick these people out.
You'd have to know where they lived,

406
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.960
you'd have to know the layout,
like there would have to be things that

407
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:30.160
you would need to know by by
getting in there. And I also read

408
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:35.960
that the Manson family was occupying Spawn
Ranch, which was a major movie making

409
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:42.160
piece of property, so very very
tied into Holly Weird and all of the

410
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.279
stuff that we talked about that goes
along with this. Well. Terry Melcher

411
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:50.599
was the former resident of one thousand
and five Clo which is where the Tates,

412
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.319
or Plansky and Tate lived. Plansky, of course was in Europe,

413
00:32:53.920 --> 00:33:00.200
right, and he kept delaying his
return. Meanwhile, Sharon Tate's pregnant about

414
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:05.440
yeah, right, so he wasn't
around when it went down, conveniently,

415
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:09.720
and he had a lot of ties
with like he did Rosemary's Baby, and

416
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:14.720
a lot of the Satanists and occultist
hated him for that. And there's a

417
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.799
lot of weird stuff going down.
There's movies being made, parties, drugs,

418
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:22.759
all kinds of crazy stuff. And
the resident of that house was Terry

419
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:30.440
Melcher whose doors day there was a
producer in Hollywood and Melcher was recording and

420
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:37.559
going to produce an album by by
Manson. That's very strange. Yeah,

421
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:43.960
Okay, there's evidence that Melcher,
even after the murders, still maintained his

422
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:50.960
contacts with Manson, knowing that Manson
and people were involved. So it's crazy.

423
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.799
It's crazy. Yeah, this book, it's so the webs that they

424
00:33:54.839 --> 00:34:00.240
weave. Boy, all right,
so let's see. Oh, I just

425
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:07.119
found it interesting. There was somebody
called Charles tex Watson only because in in

426
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:12.639
the Oh Gosh and one of the
murders back during the Black doll your time

427
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:15.960
the lips. It was called the
Red Lipstick murders. But one of the

428
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:22.320
bodies had texts actually written in lipstick
on it. And we know that it

429
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:28.079
seems that the Zodiac was good about
planting evidence that pointed towards the Patsy.

430
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:34.400
So I had wondered if Jack was
familiar with these people as well. Well.

431
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:42.239
Tex Watson was allegedly the main killer
in the Tate Lobianca murders. He

432
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.239
was the one that shot Steve Prant, the kid in the cart that was

433
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:49.280
outside in the driveway, the first
one that was killed at the Sharon Tate

434
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.719
house. Oh, so he was
chomping at the bit to kill. Yeah.

435
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:58.280
And Tex Watson actually from Texas,
that's why he was a football player

436
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:04.599
and track athlete, and uh he
was he was the leader of the Manson

437
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:08.719
people that went to the to the
Tate house, uh the night of the

438
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:13.480
murders. So it wasn't even Manson
that was the leader, but he got

439
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:17.599
hemmed up for the house. Well
le he went there after the murders.

440
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.440
Yeah. But also there's a guy
named Reid Whitson that is affiliated with the

441
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:27.719
CIA that claims to have been at
the house after the murders as well.

442
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:32.639
Huh, it doesn't surprise me.
In between the time the people were killed

443
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:38.079
and the time that the maid found
the bodies and called the police. Wow.

444
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:43.559
That that and then they knew that
it was occurring, They knew that

445
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:45.679
it was happening to have been able
to show up before the police was even

446
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:52.920
called. Well, um, Sharon
Tate's personal photographer, a guy named ha

447
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:57.199
Tommy. He's sounds Asian, but
he was actually uh rounding in. I

448
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:04.440
think he received a call from Reeve
Witzen saying that the murders did occurred.

449
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:10.239
This was prior to the time the
maid of Yeah, so how yeah,

450
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:20.159
how right? He was there?
Yeah right right, yeah, yeah,

451
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:24.360
yeah, it's crazy. Well and
and then that that leads to this next

452
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:30.119
letter, which I thought was rather
out of place. And it was postmarked

453
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:34.079
on August ten, So we know
that the Hardens have already solved this,

454
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.360
and it has been released in the
newspapers at least by what what did I

455
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:42.880
say, August eighth? August Yeah, So by August eighth, the Hardens

456
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:45.840
it solved it. You know,
this was all over the newspapers by that

457
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:49.719
time. And for whatever reason,
the killer decides to write in a letter

458
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:53.400
with a code key um, which
actually just blows my mind. If he's

459
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:57.519
and we know he's watching the media, we know he's watching the news.

460
00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:01.519
What's being reported on him? It
already been solved. What would the sense

461
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:07.920
be And immediately following the tape murders, what would the sense be to actually

462
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:12.400
write in a letter giving a code
key to a cipher that has already been

463
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:19.039
solved. So that was my biggest
life, right parallel is that's that's weird,

464
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.119
it's curious. It makes it makes
me feel like he wrote this letter

465
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:25.039
to make it appears though, And
I feel like in some cases he commits

466
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:29.119
a murder to make it look like
he's in one state, then he's off

467
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:31.559
to another state committing a murder.
But because this murder is being committed back

468
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:36.800
here in California, it makes it
appear as though he's still here in California

469
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:40.079
and that this must be an unrelated
crime. And that's how this letter kind

470
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:45.880
of makes me feel, coming in
a day after the tape murders, two

471
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:47.639
days after it's already been solved.
What has he been out of town?

472
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:51.320
He hasn't seen the news, He
doesn't know that it's already been solved,

473
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:53.920
and they already know what the code
key is. I have no idea.

474
00:37:54.079 --> 00:38:00.800
Anyways, go ahead, I was
gonna say Manson was in the even in

475
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:06.000
at Spawn Ranch or in LA in
the days prior to the first, you

476
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:09.239
know, the tape murders. He
was up in a big sur at the

477
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:16.559
Eslon Institute doing whatever, you know, trying to sell his music and hobnob

478
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:22.400
with with rich people. And then
he actually he met a teenage girl and

479
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:27.480
they came down back to the Spawn
Ranch the day before the murders started,

480
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.400
so he wasn't even there trying to
get everybody hyped out. Yeah, it's

481
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:36.280
not like this was plotted out,
you know, it was a sophisticated plan.

482
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:38.840
It was kind of a spur of
the moment thing, spur of the

483
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:45.360
moment or or maybe someone else's planning
it and they just waited for him to

484
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:49.320
get back to Spring it right,
and maybe he became the patsy and he

485
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.920
seems I mean, he obviously seems
a little off his rocker, but I

486
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:57.880
don't understand why he would take culpability. I mean, didn't he literally give

487
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:02.159
or I don't know. I've seen
a couple of people say in dB Cooper,

488
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:10.079
where the guy refused kept he was
one of Bruce Smith's first suspect,

489
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:14.880
and he refused to answer in the
affirmative or to the negative of being dB

490
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.519
Cooper, and because of that,
the media vilified him as if he was

491
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:22.559
the perpetrator. So I'm wondering if
Manson wasn't that same type of personality where

492
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:28.280
he would not answer in the affirmative
or the negative and just continued to play

493
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:30.719
this ruse because he was getting so
much attention, not knowing what it was

494
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:36.400
really going to do to his entire
life. Also, one of Manson's biggest

495
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:40.559
things being a lifelong like or half
his life, who spent an institutions criminal

496
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:45.599
institutions as a boy and as an
adult. One of the main things is

497
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:50.199
that you don't want to be if
you're that type of person, is a

498
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:55.920
snitch. But but at the same
time, there's evidence that either he or

499
00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:00.239
someone in the family was an informant
for the FBI, the LABD, the

500
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:07.280
LABD, LA Sheriff's, FBI,
and CIA all were working together during this

501
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:13.159
time period goes back even it predates
even the rfk assassination, and it continued

502
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:19.000
up until like the nineties. Well, like some of the senator's daughters that

503
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.000
were killed, it appeared that that
occurred to kind of try and control that

504
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:30.239
individual. This could have been some
attempt at controlling Polanski perhaps, Yeah,

505
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:37.079
a lot of people, Yeah that
a lot of people think Polanski knew more

506
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.360
than he's letting onto. Yeah,
yeah, I would have to say so.

507
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:44.320
This letter, anyways, is mailed
to Sergeant John Lynch of the Valeo

508
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:49.079
Police Department in Baleo, California.
It says, I hope the enclosed key

509
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:52.760
in quotes will prove to be beneficial
to you in connection with the cipher letter

510
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:59.039
writer working puzzles, cryptograms and word
puzzles is one of my pleasures. Please

511
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:01.559
forgive the absence of my signature or
name, as I do not wish to

512
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:05.760
have my name in the papers and
it could be mentioned by a slip of

513
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:12.960
the tongue. With best wishes,
concerned citizen. Again, we show over

514
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:15.559
here to the right that enclosed here
with in an envelope bearing the postmark San

515
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:21.639
Francisco, California on eight ten of
sixty nine. Basically they talk about this

516
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:27.280
particular letter and the enclosed key.
I know that in the Zodiac series we're

517
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.840
going to see a lot to do
with the word key. It comes up

518
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:36.119
multiple times, including the finale letter
with Tim Miller. We'll talk about that,

519
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:40.639
but I really just wanted to point
out that he is enjoying these puzzles,

520
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:45.559
cryptograms and word puzzles. And this
is why Harriet Suchet had gone off

521
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:51.519
into the cryptogram and the word puzzle
or the anagramming of particular letters, because

522
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:55.000
this is the system that Jack taught
Dennis and that Dennis conveyed to Harriet.

523
00:41:55.599 --> 00:42:01.280
Now we know that the FBI is
using the US Navy Radio station's cryptographic unit

524
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:07.880
to cipher these codes per this intel
that we just looked at for October first

525
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:13.320
of nineteen sixty nine at Skaggs Island
near Valeo, California. In a conversation

526
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:16.639
that I just had with Moonlight,
she had mentioned that there was some type

527
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:22.760
of underground radio type facility on Mayor
Island, and when I conveyed to her

528
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:29.400
this information about the US Navy Radio
station the cryptographic unit being on Skaggs Island,

529
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:34.199
she said that that was on Highway
thirty seven near Mayor Island. And

530
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.320
we do have a lot of crimes
that we'll talk about around Highway thirty seven

531
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:44.239
that stripped from Valeo to Nevado.
We had what was Blood Alley, basically

532
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:50.000
a lot of accidents created there and
those could have been accidents obviously that the

533
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:52.840
Zodiac didn't take credit for, but
stated that he would make them look like

534
00:42:52.960 --> 00:43:00.119
accidents did if you take a ride
at Lakeville Road head up through Panalua towards

535
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.840
Santa Rosa. There was lots of
other insult murders up that way, yes,

536
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.519
and that's what Moonlight is basically involved
with, which is the Santa Rosa

537
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:13.039
hitchhiker murders. So it's right in
her realm, in her league. But

538
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:16.920
she was the one that had told
me about the underground radio station at Mare

539
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:22.079
Island, and then when I found
that this was a US Navy radio station

540
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:27.719
on Skaggs Island near Valeo. That's
all relatively close in proximity and right where

541
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:31.519
Jack would have been with especially with
all of his capabilities. Yeah, that's

542
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:37.000
not far from very Essay either or
Vallejo, No, exactly, Yeah,

543
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:40.079
that stretch of thirty seven, and
he also was at Hamilton Air Force Base,

544
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:45.239
which was off of thirty seven out
past I think Nevado. So all

545
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:52.800
of that is related to Jack in
proximity. Yes, all right, so

546
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.519
this letter was addressed similar to that
of the Black Dahlia. We can take

547
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.800
a look at that again, where
he spells out the word department when we

548
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:07.280
know that department could be could be
condensed, or could be abbreviated. Jack

549
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:12.360
was not good with abbreviations, and
nor was the Zodiac Killer. So we'd

550
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.679
either see him spell the state out
completely or at least the first three to

551
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:21.920
four five letters of the state versus
actually using like a capital C capital A.

552
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:27.480
For California, he would write capital
C A l if. So this

553
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:32.320
spelling out of the entire word department
is consistent with Black Dahli and Anthrax letters,

554
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:36.800
where he actually writes out the whole
word building rather than abbreviating it.

555
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:42.360
The letter addressed to Dear Sergeant John
Lynch Cross connect that to the Dear Melvin

556
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:46.000
letter and Dear Draftboard letter from March
fourth, nineteen sixty eight. A key

557
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:50.760
is enclosed, just like the nineteen
ninety Christmas card by the Zodiac with the

558
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:54.320
snowman. There's cross cross references to
the Oakland County child Burner, where a

559
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:59.719
set of postal keys are included.
Jack has two other keys that relate directly

560
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.400
to areas where he has committed to
other serial killings. In my opinion,

561
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:07.480
this also reference cross references the September
eighteenth, two thousand and five letter to

562
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:12.280
Tim Miller, where the author alludes
to a key to his identity. As

563
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:17.199
I mentioned previously, key is an
emo in these communications working puzzles, cryptograms

564
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:22.159
and word puzzles is one of my
pleasures is my name is cipher on April

565
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:28.320
twentieth, nineteen seventy, where Lauren
Sweringhem has applied an anagrammed and highlights the

566
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:31.960
word game method to decoding it.
Jack taught this system to Dennis Kaufman,

567
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:36.559
and he showed it to Harriett Suchet, who came up with something similar as

568
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:42.000
a solve. My pleasures is a
reference to fund. Absence of my signature

569
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.960
is like his guests who philosophy that
goes on and slip of the tongue seems

570
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:50.519
like a mob statement, But I
think that's also a Navy statement they used

571
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:52.159
to make back in the day,
if I'm correct. Do you know anything

572
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:59.679
about that that's slip of a tongue? I'm not sure. I do have

573
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.880
favorite members that were in the Navy, but I'm not sure I remember seeing

574
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:08.880
one that said loose lips sink ships, So I think that I think that

575
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:13.599
was just some type of because the
Navy was probably so heavily and ciphering and

576
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:17.119
coding and all of that stuff that
everything must be kept close to the hip

577
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.599
type thing. But slip of the
tongue seemed to me to be like a

578
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:27.760
mob statement or something close to that. But it is to accidentally say that

579
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:30.039
you were thinking, and to say
what you were thinking instead of what you

580
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:35.440
intended to say, so closely related
to an earlier term slip of the pen.

581
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:39.800
Now sign off with best wishes.
Similar sign off in the December twenty

582
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:45.719
seventh, nineteen seventy four Donna Last
Christmas card. Best Wishes author identifies himself

583
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.880
as a concerned citizen, which is
a direct reference to the May eighth,

584
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:54.599
nineteen seventy four Zodiac Citizen letter to
the San Francisco Chronicle referencing the Badlands movie,

585
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:59.800
which is signed a citizen. Patricia
House was signed a fellow student,

586
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.960
and the Zodiac Sla letter was signed
a friend. Also note the use of

587
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:07.239
lowercase letters in the sign off,
where proper words should be capitalized, which

588
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:12.760
would indicate which would include the Dear
Draftboard letter March fourth, nineteen sixty eight,

589
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:15.840
where the author signs off signed and
that is a lowercase S as well

590
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.960
with a question mark, which is
again kind of like the guests who working

591
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:25.280
puzzles cryptograms and word puzzles, is
the Zodiac is now saying that cryptograms and

592
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:30.840
word puzzles are what we should expect. In my eyes, now, I

593
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:36.840
did not see this letter actually pop
up on the Suspected Zodiac correspondence list in

594
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:39.920
the Foil files. It should have
been placed right here between the August seventh

595
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:45.239
letter of no address and the ten
thirteen letter that we're coming up on that

596
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:51.000
had was in regards to Paul Stein. So I was kind of shocked to

597
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:52.480
not see it in this list.
I do not know why it did not

598
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.920
make this list, But again,
like I said, that coming up with

599
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:02.239
a code key after the fact is
like saying something in hindsight which wasn't necessary,

600
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:07.679
and really again just still boggles me
as to why the suspect felt the

601
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:13.320
need to write that letter and what
the purpose of it was. Oh boy,

602
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:15.280
we actually made it to Lake Berryessa, you guys, and we've got

603
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:22.079
about two. Here, we're here. We did it. Yeah. September

604
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:27.320
twenty seventh, nineteen sixty nine,
Brian Hartnell and Cecilia Shepherd are attacked at

605
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:32.159
Lake Berryessa. The let's see first
time the Zodiac appears in a hood that

606
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:37.280
has the zodiac signed stone into it. Now, keep in mind we talked

607
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:40.840
about the Texarcana months and months ago, but the Texarcana also wore a hood

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at his crimes, which was basically
kind of like a burlap sack as well,

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And we know that the duke fabric
that was found in the hood that

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Dennis used is kind of like a
burlap sack type of material. He stabs

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to death Cecilia Shepherd and she was
I had her listed at or at least

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I think when we talked about Sherry
Joe Bates, I was under the impression

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that she was a student at the
community College in Riverside, but it turns

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out she's actually at the University in
Riverside. But we do know that there's

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still a connection between Cecilia Shepherd's sister
who attended a Bates event in Riverside,

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So we know that there's still some
type of connection here between these individuals.

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Even though that they went to two
different schools in the Riverside area. Bryd

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Nels now an attorney in Riverside.
Right, Oh, we are at seven

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minutes and fifty, or we are
at seven fifty you guys, this means

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that we are done. We're going
to pick back up next week with the

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Lake Berryessa murders. I hope everybody
has a wonderful weekend. Thank you Nolan

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for being here today. It was
a blast, and we will see you

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next Friday if you'd like, Oh
love to absolutely awesome. You have a

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great day and a great weekend as
well. Thank you everybody but the row,

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not ll loud dot ll loud.