July 18, 2025

Peter Wilson and Zodiac Killer Solves

Peter Wilson and Zodiac Killer Solves
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Answers in the framing and conviction of Peter Wilson. 400k missing in illegal search and seizure after finding his landlady murdered. 300k lent to his landlady lost upon her murder is the worst day of Peter Wilson’s life. Cops on the take, and DA’s willing to secure a conviction even if it means not presenting the evidence to the jury and purposefully suppressing exculpable forensics. Harriette Sucher shares her solve on the 1987 Herb Caen letter from the Zodiac Killer.

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Good morning, True Seekers and True crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.

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To just start off the show this morning with something fabulous.

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I did an event last night which I volunteered to

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drive the kJ.

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To Oakland, California.

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In which case we were hosted by Sutter Hospital Cancer

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Patients Ward where we brought music, fun and support to

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the community, helping those that are kind of.

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Stuck in their sickness or their illness.

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And not really having a lot going on, because when

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you feel that way, you don't really get out to events,

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you don't get really out of the hospital in some cases.

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So we brought karaoke to them and we had a

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wonderful evening. It was our first little pilot program, I

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believe because it appears as though it's something that may

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take off. The doctor that invited us out is part

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of alternative medicines, which I applaud her for. Western medicine

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isn't always the only way to go. So we're seeing

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the combination or the infusion of Western and Eastern medicine.

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She does acupuncture and she feels that music is something

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that could help heal the soul, provide happiness, and that's

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exactly what we saw last night.

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So thank thank you to the doctor, thank you to

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Sutter for allowing us to put this on.

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And I hope that eventually it extends to more hospitals,

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maybe even to the children's ward of the cancer patients,

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so that they can have a little bit of fun

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as well. We know how much children love to sing,

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So on my soapbox, I'm going to welcome Harriet Soouchet

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to the show.

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Good morning, good morning, great show today.

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Yes it is as long as my voice holds out,

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because we did a lot of singing last night.

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We both can blab a lot. We can do it well.

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I again, if you heard that intro there, I went

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to the Oakland County or Oakland, California, Sutter Hospital and

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we performed a karaoke show which the patients were able

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to get up and sing. We had some of them

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that were capable of and dancing with us. It was

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absolutely a blast. I had such a good time. And

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the people that I went with are phenomenal, I mean,

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amazing souls. I just absolutely love them.

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So music is good for the soul.

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Absolutely. It brings the masses together. It it heels, it

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causes memories. You know, you get melancholy, you get sad,

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you get happy, you get you know, love, it's fun.

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There's so many emotions built up in it.

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So happy to say that. We had a great crew

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and a lot of great singers that were out there.

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And it was funny because every time a new person

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walked in, they'd say I don't ever sing, I don't sing,

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and then the next thing you know, they get up

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there and they belt it out like they've been singing

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in their shower for the last thirty years. I call

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out an over disclosure. Don't come into a karaoke event

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and say I don't sing and then get up there

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and knock it out on.

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The It's a thing. That's the one thing that Dennis

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and I had in common was aside from this was

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the music, and I gave him a brand new guitar

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when he came to move in. He says, you want

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me to have this guitar? I said, I bought it,

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I used it once, but I'm just not into guitar anymore.

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And so that's the one thing that we definitely had

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in comment. And I can tell you Dennis had the

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Olympic guitar. He could play those riffs.

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Well, and he was personally amazing.

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He was personal friends with the band Tesla, so evidently he,

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you know, spent a lot of time around that band.

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And I'm sorry that I didn't get an opportunity to

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meet them. He did, at one point in time want

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to solicit them for support in his endeavor, and I

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thought we were going to meet him meet them, but

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we did not. Either way, Yes, you're absolutely correct. It

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moves the masses. So I always often wonder when an

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artist who does move the masses, like Elvis Presley or

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John Denver, Bob Marlea and these people, you know, die

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at an age which is way too early for their time,

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exactly what was going on there? I mean, if these

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people can pull together millions of people enjoy and harmony

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I'm sure that's something that the separatist does not want

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to have happen, all right, So we're going to follow

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up with what I believe we're going to be the

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final answers in the Peter Wilson case. I did receive

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the final letter back that answered all of the questions

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that I've been looking for, and I think most of

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our listeners have been listening or looking for as well.

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So we're going to start with the why he had

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his money in a safety deposit box the big The

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answer to that is and he sent me seven different

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letters from Bank of America. So evidently he was banking

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with Bank of America and he was consistently having his

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deposits misplaced placed into other people's accounts. His checks were

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bouncing because his deposits being deposited into his account. And

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I've never seen so many apology letters from a bank

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in my life. Inside of about three years, this man

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had lost several deposits and had several issues, and it

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was apology after apology after apology. So he finally went

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to Wells Fargo and he opened a safety deposit box

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because he was informed that there were two keys involved

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with this one that the bank would have that could

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not open the box independently one that he would have,

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So it require both of them to actively use those

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keys to get into his safe deposit box, and that's

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where he felt his money was safe. The question was

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how did he have access to three hundred and four

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hundred thousand dollars in this particular scenario, being a thirty

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one year old student Stanford renting a room.

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The answer to that is that he had.

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Some antique art that he sold one piece in February

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for three hundred thousand dollars. That is the three hundred

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thousand that he then loaned to him in order to

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secure a free position in her house for nine months.

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The four hundred thousand that he states was stolen from

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his backpack in the illegal search and seizure by Officer

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Michael Yore was from the second piece of antique art

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that he had sold on March twenty ninth. So talk

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about and even I mean, it's like every time I

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get more information from this man, he was done so dirty,

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and it just seems to get that much worse. So total,

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in this act of being framed for this murder, he

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has lost seven hundred thousand dollars, because of course Kim's

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family is not even they're not even making a peep

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or a word about this money.

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And I'm sure that she had it in cash in

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the house.

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Had it been in a bank account, it would have

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fell into her estate when she passed away, and that

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would have been recognized as part of the estate, in

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which case mister Wilson could have made a claim against

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the estate for that money based on the contract that

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he had and had loan her that money. So he

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in total lost seven hundred thousand dollars and thirty years

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of his life this one act. Now, I did want

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to read a couple of his excerpts rather than just

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highlighting them myself, and one of those was the testimony

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of let's see here of Lloyd Cunningham.

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So basically he wrote me and said Lloyd W.

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Cunningham, forensic document examiner, testified in trial the second trial

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in February of two thousand for the prosecutor, that three

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rent receipts were all prepared freely and fluently. That means

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that they were written fairly rapidly, and if somebody was

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forging a document, typically the writing is much slower and

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sometimes tremulous, and he's absolutely correct. So if she had

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been under dress or she had been under stress, we

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would have seen some inconsistencies.

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In that handwriting.

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But he's stating that it's written fluidly and freely. That

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does not describe somebody who's being forced.

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To write a letter.

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That's the.

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And then the your accusations, he says the former Paloazzo

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police officer Michael Yore unlawfully broke into evidence room in

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police department on Sunday, March thirty first, nineteen ninety six

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and stole four hundred.

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Thousand in cash.

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Is Caltrans ticket, which is a receipt that shows he

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was out of the city at that time that the

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murder was occurring, purchased in San Francisco at eleven thirty

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three on Saturday at three thirty, nineteen ninety six, and

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a handwritten note for finding a woman's person Rogers Restaurant

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at one thirty on Saturday, three thirty, nineteen ninety six,

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which we've discussed is the timeframe in which the DA

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has pinned down when Miss Kim was killed, and rental

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receipts from my backpack and one vial of my reference

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blood sample from evidence refrigerator. And now we've all seen

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what I've done with the handwriting on that, and it

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does indicate and show that Officer Michael Yoor removed one

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vial of blood from property evidence on a Sunday with

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no intentions of delivering that to the lab because the

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lab was not open until Monday, in which case the

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balance of the forensic evidence went to the lab. Now,

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the four hundred dollars that I was under the impression

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that was what was taken from his backpack, he says,

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there was also a four hundred dollars inside front pocket

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of my backpack, but that wasn't taken, he says, So

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they took the four hundred grand, but not the four

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hundred dollars. Let's leave some change behind. And we did

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see Officer Brooks's report about the search that in seizure

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that occurred on April first, based on the search warrant,

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and he does indicate small change. But I'm assuming that

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that was the four hundred dollars. So you're also perjures

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himself in testimony. And I've read all these transcripts, so

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anything that I've highlighted in here that I'm going to

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speak about I've read the transcript.

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We know that it was entered into court.

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This is not just statements that mister Wilson is telling

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me your pursures himself when he testifies to searching and

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seizing only on April first, nineteen ninety six with the

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officer KL Gibson.

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The evidence obviously supports.

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Otherwise, because now we have the alibi note, we have

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the receipt from Caltrans, and we have a missing four

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hundred thousand dollars that all occurred on March thirty first,

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and now explains why the motive for Officer Yore to

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so quickly frame mister Wilson for this case. Let's see

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Coleman testifies that every Sunday he and Kim go into

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the basement for five minutes. I'm not sure what mister

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Wilson's insinuation is behind that, whether or not they were

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having relations, but that would kind that would kind of

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refute the testimony of her family stating that she was

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not involved with any other men after her divorce. But

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it doesn't also say that they were having sexual relations.

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And if they were having sexual relations and they were

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going down into the basements every Sunday for five or

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so minutes. He wouldn't have had to have raped her

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because obviously, if he's insinuating that they're having affairs, why

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would he have to.

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Rape her and murder her.

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Mister Wilson is Canadian, so we did confirm that miss

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Kim sells the cleaner, So this was another question. When

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did she sell the cleaners, How did this transpire? Why

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did she need this money from mister Wilson. Miss Kim

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sells the cleaners in nineteen eighty eight. I want to

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say that this was right around the time when her

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son was actually arrested for drug trafficking and money laundry,

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and two of the vehicles that were found at his

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house that were seized were actually either part owned by

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Kim or owned by the cleaners itself, so that may

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have been a way to raise the money for his defense.

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I'm not exactly sure, but it said that she profited

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approximately twenty to thirty thousand dollars. She then turns around

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and buys a video store that she sells in nineteen

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ninety two, and at the time of her death, she

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had only six to seven thousand dollars in her bank account,

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and that's per her son's testimony, so he's not stating

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anything in regards to this three hundred thousand that Wilson

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has lent her. And of course he seems to almost

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even be directing testimony of other people. There's testimony in

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the trial transcripts that indicate that the bailiff or the

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deputy had watched mister Kim, which is Miss Kim's son

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sitting in the courtroom nodding his head, shaking his head

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as if to instruct and direct her sister to say

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the right things. He indicates that she had very little left,

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that she was living off of this the money from

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the sales of these businesses, but that all of a

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sudden she came up with some unknown money, he says.

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Now in one part of his testimony, he says that

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he was very much aware of all her business transactions

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because he was basically a partner in all of it.

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But then turn around and said, some unknown source of

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money was going to help her buy a dairy bell.

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So that's what she was attempting to do with this

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money that had been lent to her by mister Wilson.

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She had placed an offer on March eleventh for eighty

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thousand dollars. The the seller of the dairy bell counteroffered

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for one hundred and twenty thousand, so they were in

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negotiations over her buying this particular I don't know if

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a dairy bell is like.

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A dairy queen or what.

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Back in nineteen ninety six what that was called, but

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it was basically kind of a little restaurant type deal.

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And Kim's son also testified that Kim had no income

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from nineteen ninety two to nineteen ninety six except for

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the nine hundred and seventy five dollars a month from renters,

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and then she received the balance of support to make

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her house payment, to get food, to pay her bills

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from somebody named doctor Kang. So he's trying to make

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it appear as though she has kind of a sugar daddy.

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So why some random individuals going to be paying her bills?

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Doesn't really scream she's not involved with other guys, because

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she obviously if she isn't just you know, using him

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for the money that he's providing for her his support,

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then she might have some type of affairs with him.

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They sell milkshakes and tacos.

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I don't I don't know what they said.

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Right, spicy, spicy tacos.

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Maybe the owner sounds like a band of three.

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Maybe when the owner.

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Sold the dairy bells, he created Taco bell and dairy queen.

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Before.

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But it was very interesting to see Richard's her Son's

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testimony in these trial transcripts because he was extremely wishy

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washy when it came to funds, and for him to

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say some unknown source of money, as if he wasn't aware,

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he would have found this contract that they had made

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in regards to the three hundred thousand, He would have

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found the three hundred thousand. How was it that she

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was going to come up with eighty thousand or one

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hundred and twenty thousand dollars for this particular establishment unless

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she had cash on hand, since we know she only

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had six to seven thousand dollars in.

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Her bank account.

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She couldn't ref finance her house to pull the equity out,

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and she didn't have that rental property that she claimed

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to mister Wilson she was trying to sell and cover

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the rents and tell that property sold.

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So there's a whole lot of not telling the truth

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going on here on miss Kim's side.

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Roso is your hypothesis that the money went to the

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sun to help him drug.

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You know what, No, because I landed on some research

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that indicates, like I said last time we were following up,

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that he's in the Sara He owns property in Saratoga,

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which again is another high end area. He he owns

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a business or is the CEO of an LED business

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that makes LED screens for all different types of technical devices.

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Got to that point, actually.

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He had enough money to go clean and to go straight,

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and maybe maybe if there's any way to track how

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all of that occurred and started, maybe there's a way

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to track that money. But I'm feeling bad for mister

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Wilson because thirty years is a really long time. Most

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of your bank only they only keep records for thirty

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years or for ten years and some seven. So it's

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insane to try and go back and track this money

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or obviously get Richard Kim to in fact the fact

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that he found three hundred thousand dollars in Mattress money.

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But there's enough evidence to show that miss Kim was

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given that money by mister Wilson. So Coleman testifies that

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he deposits cash for rent along with Wilson's rent check

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into Kim's Union Bank account monthly.

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And that's the proof that Wilson had been paying rent.

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Despite what you found, Harriet, which indicated that he had

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not been paying rent and that he was trying to

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do some type of finiggling to you know, abscond with

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Kim's house.

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Simply not true.

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Mister Wilson said that he paid or mister Coleman said

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that he paid cash, and eventually I guess Miss Kim

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didn't want cash anymore, so she would sign the check

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that mister Wilson would give her. She would give that

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to Coleman, and Coleman would take and deposit it at

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the bank for her. So again that kind of screams

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a little more personal interactions between her and Coleman, because

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I'm not going to go make somebody's deposit for him.

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That's your business. Go handle your business.

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Yeah, I got I get some things to add to this,

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and maybe I'll set aside some time to do more

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lining up the ducks. But there is something that matches

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around in the eighties to circle nineteen ninety that a

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major drug bus had happened in this area where this

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guy was going to pick up stuff at the taxi

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years a few years earlier, and that some people got

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arrested and people got in trouble. So fast forward, that

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was the tail end of the one of the cartels,

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the big cartels. He dies Bubu Escobar and works into

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the Cali cartel. And if you owed anybody, even from

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the past, they went to versions with the collect three

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hundred thousand dollars with interest. So I was saying, my god,

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I'm finding something that's matching there this cross connection.

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Well, the evidence is actually kind of winding out that

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it may not have been a money laundrying situation for her,

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at least partially because she's considering buying something else.

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She's looking like a money laundering operation and that's the

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form of blackmail for these people.

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Well, what I'm saying, what I'm saying is I'm not

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believing the cartel connection anymore.

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It was nineteen eighty eight eight.

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That's this, no, no, no, eight years before her death.

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Her son was money.

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That's what you do. Anyways, we'll keep going.

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My point is is that she there was evidence to

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suggest she was looking to invest and this was from

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word of mouth that two friends by the other friends

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of mister Wilson, who understood what it was that mister

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Wilson was engaging into with miss Kim in this business transaction.

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So the fact that.

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She's going to go invest eighty to one hundred and

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twenty thousand into this business does not scream money laundering

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at screams she was legitimately looking to do an investment

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to make money so that she could live because she

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had no income for approximately four or five years. So

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Coleman also testified that he, oh, I got that.

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Sorry.

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And as far as a cigarette butt that's found down

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in the basement, mister Wilson indicates that no one in

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the house smokes, not even mister Coleman. So is that

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evidence of a even further third party culpability outside of

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Coleman himself. So it's getting a little oh shady up

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there as far as whether or not Coleman is the

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one that committed the crime, because now we have a

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cigarette butt that should have tested out for some DNA

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that may or may not have matched either of Coleman

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or Wilson forensic testing by Nancy Marte. So we asked

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about whether or not he had blood underneath his fingernails

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or if there was blood of Miss Kims on his

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bandages or anything that would indicate that he had committed

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this crime at the outl well. They obviously backdated in

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about twelve hours, but I would have thought that had

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he killed her, he would have had her blood somewhere

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on him, and he had been gone since two pm

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the earlier day.

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Freshly bandage, they.

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Did not find any of Miss Kim's blood underneath his fingernails.

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The Nancy Marte, the criminalist, said that she found what

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she considered to be debris, but not blood all of

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the bandages. They tested a few of the large pieces

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of bandages that were on the outside of his wrap,

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and there were no blood sources from Miss Kim on

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that either. So again we have somebody completely clear and clean,

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and all of the forensics are indicating that her blood

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is not on him. Yet they're claiming his blood was

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on her without any damages to support that. There was

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no cuts, there was nothing on his hands or otherwise

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to indicate he would have bled all over Miss Kim

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at the time she had been killed. Child transcripts indicate

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that there's a request to impeach Kim's sister, and that's

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because the Sun is alone, and that's when the deputy

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of the court witnessed and informed mister Parkasu that after

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Richard Kim's testimony, he remained in the courtroom during Miss

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Shin's testimony. Now, if you remember, Miss Shin is Miss

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Kim's sister, and they went to the police department after

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her son had been arrested, and they had seized twenty

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thousand dollars from the trunk of a car that was

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co owned by Kim Richard Kim and hawked you Kim,

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and the sister claimed that she had removed that money

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from the bank the twenty thousand it belonged to her.

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She took it out of the bank because she was

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filing for benefits through the county to get low income housing,

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and that her and Kim had borrowed the car, which

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makes no sense to me. They live in two totally

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different towns. If Kim has got her own BMW, why

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would she drive all the way to her sons to

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pick up his Mustang to go shopping at the Oriental store.

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In which case, Miss Shin had deposited that twenty thousand

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into the trunk forgetting about it and leaving it for

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it to be actually seized by the police department. And

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mind you, it was wrapped in two black plastic trash

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bags that reeked of pot so probably not her money,

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but they were both willing to stand up tell this

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lie in order to try and get.

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This money back. And maybe that money was what what.

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Miss Kim thought would be a defense for her son

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and ultimately ended up having to sell the cleaners in

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order to provide a defense for him.

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Who knows.

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So basically the daughter or the sisters admitting under oath

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that she was about to commit some sort of fraud

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to get.

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Us yep, and they walked right on into the police department.

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The night after Richard Kim had been arrested and the

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money had been seized from the car that was all

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an impound, walked right into the police department and told

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the police that.

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Suffering the lesser of the two crimes.

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Testimony in this case is shady testimony. Shay, how was

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the drink? And vic I don't get it.

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Because because the DA, the DA was successful in getting

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all of the evidence of third party culpability. Uh yeah, exactly,

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So basically he had no defense and and her her

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belief was we don't want to the DA's belief is

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we don't want to confuse the jury or waste the

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jury's time. The hell you say you're looking at convicting

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a man for murder. It's the rest of his life

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that you have imprisoned him. The hell you say he

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doesn't have a defense, that is his only defense.

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He didn't do it.

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It's not no, So it says he Richard Kimryman, exactly exactly.

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All all evidence should be a play. When I go

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into the courtroom and the opposition tries to get me

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impeached or state that I'm I'm you know, not fit

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for testimony, or what.

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Have you, it is ultimately always granted.

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I'm always accepted and qualified as an expert. And I

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think it was because most judges are afraid of an

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appeals process. They don't want it to come up on

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a peel because they violated that individual's rights. So in

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this case, he should have been given full reign to

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test all of the forensics, to get the tests that

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the DA had completed themselves. So remember again she also

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excluded at the trial all the forensic testing of the seamen,

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the sperm, the cigarette, but everything was excluded from that

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second trial.

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That's terrible, and to the defensive journey and the judge

474
00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:34.039
to step up at that point and to fight back.

475
00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:37.920
And we saw Harsku.

476
00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:40.960
We saw mister Parsku attempting to do that in the

477
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:42.359
testimony that I read off.

478
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:44.920
He was trying to get the judge.

479
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.200
No, the judge did not back him that. That was

480
00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:50.480
a sad state of affairs. And the other side of

481
00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:52.839
that is that the forensic testing and on those items

482
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:55.799
were never provided to the defense, so they never got

483
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:56.759
it in the first place.

484
00:25:57.759 --> 00:25:59.480
That's what's holding for the worst trial.

485
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:07.359
How long afterwards did the DNA become a judge that year? Yeah,

486
00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:09.839
I think we were already rubbed elbows.

487
00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:10.920
Yeah, exactly.

488
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:12.839
She was supposed to I think take her seat in

489
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:14.960
two thousand and two, but she was granted that seat

490
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:16.519
in two thousand and she took it early.

491
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:19.960
So that's been basically the research I read.

492
00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:24.160
All right, So this is something new that I just

493
00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:27.079
discovered because we keep talking about who removed these two

494
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:30.160
particular pages, And every time I looked at the entry

495
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:32.039
and that's up here on this right hand corner, right

496
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:33.079
here where it says.

497
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:39.039
I, oh where'd you go? Oh hello, No, I did

498
00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:44.319
not want to do that. No, all right, we're still there.

499
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:44.720
Okay.

500
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:47.160
So basically up here on this right hand corner, it

501
00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:50.079
says I removed page nine and it has some assemblance

502
00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:52.720
of looks like initials rather than a signature, and I

503
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.200
removed page one twenty six. When I initially looked at these,

504
00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:01.519
these were obviously not something that looks like Officer yours signature.

505
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:03.680
We can see his signature down here on the bottom

506
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.319
of the left hand side, and so I didn't naturally

507
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:09.319
take a look at these thinking that it was him.

508
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:12.319
And since there's so many accusations by mister Wilson that

509
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:15.759
the DA was involved with the cover up, that I thought,

510
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.599
maybe this could be Linda Condra and Linda Ruth Condren.

511
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.799
This almost looks like it could be an l RC.

512
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.119
But I started to look, and this little area up

513
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:26.799
here at the top of the D is something that's

514
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:27.720
really bothered me.

515
00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:29.640
I thought, who makes a D like that?

516
00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:33.559
And basically what's happening here is that they're extending from

517
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:36.680
the left up to the right. They're drawing down and

518
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:41.279
then back around and then ending underneath the actual bowl

519
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:43.799
of the D, which is why we do not see

520
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:46.359
a tail sticking down. There's no ending to this D

521
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:49.319
that you would see in the natural formation. And so

522
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:53.000
I it had bothered me for quite some time, figuring

523
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:55.200
that that is going to be a characteristic we should

524
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:59.279
be able to find in the individual author's handwriting. So

525
00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:03.079
I went back and started looking at the evidence logs

526
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.279
that were the interviews of different people that mister Yore

527
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:10.519
had filled out. And when I found this, we'll we

528
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:14.039
see this D right here in medical and we see

529
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.920
that this E comes up and under and straight up

530
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.920
to the top of that stem. It comes back down

531
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:23.119
and it wraps around, leaving no tail at the bottom.

532
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.880
I thought, holy crap, that I just find the individual

533
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:31.279
who removed these pages. So I went a little further,

534
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:33.119
and I started to look at other things, like the

535
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:35.759
way the E actually works its way into the N,

536
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:39.079
the N being dropped down and the E rising up

537
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:40.359
above that letter N.

538
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:43.000
And when I looked over here, we saw the same thing.

539
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:45.400
We've got this E that's way above, and we've got

540
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:49.160
this letter M that is dropped down below. So again

541
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.160
it's kind of a ratio and a relationship of those

542
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:54.759
particular letters. And it even occurs in the second one

543
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:57.720
over here, For once again the E is higher than

544
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:00.960
the M, and the M is bounced down a level.

545
00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:03.079
So I looked at the letter.

546
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:06.599
It's really strange writing.

547
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:09.880
I think that this at this up here is very

548
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.640
strange because not many people do it. And I'm checking

549
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.680
in with one of the with my professor in graphology,

550
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:17.720
to see how many times she thinks she might have

551
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:20.039
seen this in her life, because I, honestly I don't

552
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:22.880
see people doing this. She don't usually tent from a

553
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.279
lower case letter up to the stem of another letter.

554
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.039
And we see that Michael Yore is actually doing that.

555
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.079
And then I looked at all his v's in interview,

556
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:35.880
and this one particular V right here that has the

557
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:38.119
red line underneath it. If you look up there, it

558
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:42.559
is identical in shape and form and relation to the

559
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.640
other letters around it. I was like, holy crap, we

560
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:46.880
might be onto something here.

561
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:50.000
And the fact that he if he did remove it,

562
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:53.279
he may have signed it in a way or manipulated

563
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:55.519
his handwriting in a way that it couldn't be determined

564
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:57.640
who it was that removed it, so they couldn't call

565
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.240
him out. And one of his like a.

566
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:04.400
First grader, and the signature's kind of fancy it's really

567
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:05.400
odd colminations.

568
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:05.960
Well, and it's not.

569
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:08.480
And when I see I see these tremors, I see

570
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:10.519
these these bulkiness, these angles.

571
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:12.759
It's not like it's written with fluidity and speed.

572
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:16.000
If we go back to what Cunningham had said about

573
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:19.640
fluidity and speed, these look like they're lacking it, almost

574
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.519
as somebody's faking it. So when you fake something you're

575
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:25.640
not familiar with, you're gonna have that slow, awkward drawing

576
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:28.799
that's tremulous, just like he stated in somebody who was

577
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:32.480
writing slowly. So I'm starting to think now that this

578
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:36.160
is likely. And the number nine matched, the p's match,

579
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.960
the number six is matched. The two looks a little

580
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:42.279
bit awkward, especially when you write this fluid and smoothly.

581
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.640
That looks very very strange to me. It doesn't look

582
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.920
like it's natural at all. But that's gonna be the

583
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:50.799
avenue that I focus.

584
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.160
On for this comery year.

585
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.599
Now let's go to another spot because I think it

586
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:00.480
shows this letter D even better. So, now do we

587
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:02.519
see in the word on the right hand side dated,

588
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:05.480
we can see that e how it draws right up

589
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:07.720
through the center of the ball and into the stem

590
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:13.079
back down, wraps around counterclockwise, leaving no tail or stem

591
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:14.000
on the right hand.

592
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:14.279
Side of the D.

593
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:16.720
I thought, holy crap, I think this might be the

594
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:20.799
person who did it. We also have got this connection

595
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:24.119
or this flat top R, which we see happening in

596
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:27.880
one of these. Again, I'm looking for something that's written

597
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:33.640
more freely, something that isn't like a police officers are

598
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:35.759
taught to write a certain way to be clear so

599
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:38.839
that everybody can understand the communication, so sometimes that's not

600
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.720
always as natural for them. This may be a more

601
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:44.480
natural handwriting for mister Yore where this is I need

602
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.279
everybody to be able to read it writing either way.

603
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:49.799
He is doing something over and over again in the

604
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:53.319
letter D where he's trailing that letter all the way

605
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:55.599
up to the top of that stem. And that's what

606
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:58.759
we're seeing happen here in the D and I removed.

607
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.480
So that's where we're going to. Let's move on. We

608
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.359
are done with that more handwriting though. So last week

609
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:09.200
we left off on the nineteen eighty seven October twenty eighth,

610
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:12.160
nineteen eighty seven Zodiac communication, which is kind of deemed

611
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:16.000
as another Halloween communication as we know that the zodiac

612
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:19.880
had submitted back during his reign as the Zodiac Killer,

613
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.200
and some of the things that I was pointing out

614
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.400
here were going to be these letter ds, because these

615
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:27.799
are in the presentation, and we have talked about these.

616
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.319
But if you look at these letter ds and in

617
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:33.200
comparison to the d's in the nineteen eighty six letter

618
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:35.759
that was confirmed by Terrence Pascal as being from the

619
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:39.119
Zodiac Killer, you'll see that those letter ds are consistent

620
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:42.400
with each other. And these communications were one year apart, everybody,

621
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:44.720
nineteen eighty six, nineteen eighty seven.

622
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.400
We go into the g's, we have these tiny little

623
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:50.000
bulls with these very long tails. You go over into

624
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:52.240
the SLA letter.

625
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.200
Or into the let's see where we found oh up

626
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:57.640
over here on the side in the word speaking again,

627
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:01.880
tiny little bull, very long gated, actual stem of the

628
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:04.319
G which is consistent between the two.

629
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:09.319
Let's see d's, g's, oh scratch outs. Let's talk about

630
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:14.440
the heavy scratch outs. I mean, clearly, go ahead.

631
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:18.759
Question the letter on the bottom right, where does that

632
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:19.319
come from?

633
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.559
That is a letter that the Zodiac Killer wrote, and

634
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:26.880
he's writing it at your time, at the time, Patty

635
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:29.039
Hurst is in the mix of everything.

636
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.519
If that helps you identify so.

637
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:35.480
Basically, we've got you know, we've been talking about how

638
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:39.640
Hearst's involvement with these communications being passed and forth is evident.

639
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:41.200
And then of course we have the.

640
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:47.160
Major media mogul's daughter who's what supposedly kidnapped, brainwashed, commits

641
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.319
a bank robbery and then gets off and is pardoned

642
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:53.000
at some point in time either way, that's what that

643
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:56.480
one was from. So basically, and then the A friend

644
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:59.799
is a sign off that we see in these communications,

645
00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:03.279
or a version of the mo of a sign off.

646
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:04.480
But when I was.

647
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:06.680
Looking at these little scratch outs here and there, now,

648
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.320
of course these ones go up and down. These ones

649
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:11.840
are up and down and side to side, like he's

650
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:14.599
literally trying to obliterate whatever it is that he was

651
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:18.840
trying to or started to say in order to recreate

652
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:24.599
that sentence. But here we've got sideways, sideways, up and down,

653
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:28.239
up and down, up and here. So I find that

654
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:32.639
the crossouts are just they're going basically in the same directions.

655
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:36.519
They're just as heavy. They're literating and making it impossible

656
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:39.079
to see what was written underneath it, and that is

657
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:40.760
consistent with these authors as well.

658
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:46.440
There's still you don't know, I don't know. I don't know.

659
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:47.920
It's perfect though.

660
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:53.760
Yeah, yeah, literally, all right, so that brings us to

661
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:57.119
your solve, Harriet, yay.

662
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:59.920
And I just so, and that's flying, and then we'll

663
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:04.400
it'll be mentioned briefly in that Whilac envelope.

664
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:06.639
But yet we're not to the.

665
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.039
It's but that's the song when I got it. I

666
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:11.840
got it right here.

667
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:14.480
No, no, no, but I'm not. I'm not at that

668
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:18.840
one yet. No, well, let me control the shell.

669
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:22.760
Want me to read it?

670
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:25.519
Yes, so I want to be what I want to.

671
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:27.519
I want to preempt everybody.

672
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:27.920
First.

673
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:31.199
This is the ninth April nineteen seventy eight letter that

674
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:33.760
they tried to convince everybody was a fraud or a

675
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:35.280
forgery by Tashi.

676
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:36.320
Which I do not find.

677
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:38.920
I find that this was absolutely written by the Zodiac Killer,

678
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.440
and I believe other document examiners believe that as well.

679
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:44.000
So this one was the dear editor. This is the

680
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:46.840
Zodiac speaking. I am back with you. Tell herb Kane,

681
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:50.199
I'm here, I've always been here, that city pig. Tashi

682
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:53.079
is good, but I am smarter and better. He will

683
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:57.159
get tired then leave me alone. I am waiting for

684
00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:58.360
a good movie about me.

685
00:35:58.480 --> 00:35:59.360
Who will play me.

686
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.840
I am in control of all things yours truly and

687
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:05.960
zodiac symbol guests, So go ahead and read your soul

688
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:06.280
for that.

689
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:10.280
But this is the I am crackproof stanographic code. But

690
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:12.679
I'll still read it though, because there's a separate one

691
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:13.679
for the other one.

692
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:15.880
We're going to get to that one. We're gonna get

693
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:16.920
to just read this one.

694
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:20.480
Now, this is this is ion crackproof. So it says

695
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:24.159
it comes out as to the sloppy ace Detective Toshi,

696
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:29.400
the Irishman is to bludge in the shitty screen actor

697
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:35.000
chef Gus star Bug, District of Columbia, Commander in Chief

698
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:41.039
Carter Pause to paint scockstale Arizona wall sideways with Bob

699
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:43.679
greens and blood.

700
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.079
Okay, so then this is the other letter. This is

701
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:47.320
not this one?

702
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:50.760
Yeah, this is because there there is the original one.

703
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:54.000
That's what it was reused in the in the linl

704
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:59.480
like envelope. So there's two. There's two, so so I

705
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:00.719
can read that one too.

706
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:03.760
I'm not there yet. I'm trying to understand this one.

707
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.920
So the im crack proof really is the stenographic code

708
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:10.599
and solved from the nineteen eighty seven letters.

709
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:12.719
Wait, Oh no, this is nineteen seventy eight.

710
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.079
Oh okay, so this is solved.

711
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:18.199
I just don't understand the Car movie because this doesn't

712
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:19.559
reference the Car Movie.

713
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:21.079
Oh no, it's in there.

714
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:23.559
It's no, it's not not in this one.

715
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:28.519
It's in it's in the I am crack proof here.

716
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:29.039
It is.

717
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.800
On it's it's not. The mention of the Car movie

718
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:35.840
is not in this communication.

719
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:37.159
Is this one.

720
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:38.960
It's just I just read.

721
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.360
I just read the communication. It does not The Car

722
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:43.920
is the nineteen eighty seven.

723
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.039
Yeah, no, that's nineteen. No, that movie came out in

724
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:48.400
nineteen seventy eight.

725
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.159
Seventy seven. It came out in seventy seven. Yes, the

726
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.400
Car Movie came out here in nineteen seventy seven.

727
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:55.559
Ye.

728
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:58.599
So listen, I just keep moving because there's two letters

729
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:01.639
from nineteen seventy eight. One is the prep Prooved and

730
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:04.000
the other one's in control of all Things.

731
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:06.400
So now you're saying the nineteen eighty seven letter was

732
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.000
written in nineteen seventy eight instead of nineteen eighty seven.

733
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:12.880
No, the fact simile was, and it's included in there.

734
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:18.719
I'm confused. I know where I'm seed. Everybody, guys, this

735
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:20.159
is the nineteen seventy eight letter.

736
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:23.079
You're stating that, but I because I'm reading the top

737
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.960
where it says the car movie, there's no mention. There's

738
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:28.400
a mention about a movie, but he's talking about who

739
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:31.280
will play him in a movie, not the car. The

740
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:33.599
car comes here next. Let's just go to that one.

741
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:38.079
So basically, we we then looked and found, like I

742
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:41.480
said on zodiacsifirst dot com, and found the lilac em

743
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:44.000
Look what you're talking about. This one is written to

744
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:47.280
the Valeo Times Herald versus the other one that was

745
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:52.159
written to the San Francisco Chronicle and indicating that it

746
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.119
was written October twenty eighth of nineteen eighty seven as

747
00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:00.480
another or close to Halloween communication. And I think that

748
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.679
he is talking about Halloween night in this particular one.

749
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:05.920
But you went ahead and did a decode not only

750
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:07.960
on the letter itself, but also on the envelope.

751
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:08.360
Correct.

752
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:13.159
Oh yeah, I mean I wasn't thinking I was going

753
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:16.480
to go delving back into the nineteenth century with this one,

754
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:21.960
but yeah, well you keep going of this. This is amazing,

755
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:27.480
this weird coincidence. So I had to identify everything possible

756
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:30.639
on the envelope, and we had a discussion about that.

757
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:33.519
We believe this was nineteen eighty seven. Nineteen eighty eight

758
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:38.239
is every and anyways, to make that long story short,

759
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:43.320
I saw six stamps there. I did everything I could

760
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:47.920
to identify it. And those two big stamps that are

761
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:53.639
from nineteen eighty five or commemorative size stamps, they are huge.

762
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:56.760
And then everything in there has something to do with

763
00:39:56.840 --> 00:40:01.159
what happened with the Civil War eighteen hundred. It's eighteen sixties,

764
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:04.159
eighteen eighties. I mean, next thing I know, I'm looking

765
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:05.440
at Jack the river stuff.

766
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:08.679
Okay, but there's only two stamps on this envelope.

767
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:11.280
Not no, there's six. I saw six in there. You

768
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:15.199
can barely see there's two. There's two sideways right in

769
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.760
the middle, one sideways, the other ones up, and then

770
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:20.920
there's another sideways and they're kind of like crammed in.

771
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:25.440
And Jack did something like a like an early version

772
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:29.639
of a photoshop with the xerox thing, and they're crammed

773
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:32.800
in and you're supposed to identify everything. And I found

774
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:36.119
these stamps in there, and then they all those.

775
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:39.960
Box So you're saying these boxes to oh, yeah, this

776
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:44.639
flag is secondary stamps.

777
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.480
Because there's stamps kind of looking like they're on top

778
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:48.840
of each other. We've seen that before with other of

779
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:52.480
the stuff that he's done, where you see the pictures

780
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:55.599
they're kind of crammed in and they're they're really sideways,

781
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:57.000
upside down, et cetera.

782
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:07.960
So American flag stamps or those are tunes below them there, Yeah,

783
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:10.199
I see, Okay, let's you know.

784
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:10.960
I see four.

785
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:16.480
If what you're saying is these extracurriculars, I see secondary stamps.

786
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:22.000
So anyways to make a long to board box box box, and.

787
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:26.519
Because they're they're barely there. And then when I was

788
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:28.719
looking for the other half of the stamps that were

789
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:32.159
matching this from nineteen eighty five from London, those are

790
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:36.199
the blurry stamps that I found just like that, so

791
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.679
anyways make more blurrier. It's a really complex process. But

792
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:44.320
I looked at those and they are telling about the history,

793
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:48.519
not just their history in London, it's the history of

794
00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:53.119
the postal service. The very first person who was on

795
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:58.920
the first ever adhesive stamp was Queen Victoria, and it

796
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.599
got very popular with the Lilac penny, which is eighteen

797
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:06.119
eighty one, eighteen eighties, I mean eighteen eighty eight especially,

798
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.119
so once I saw that. I said, Holy crap, I'm

799
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:12.960
in Jack the Ripper and I didn't think I was

800
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:15.760
going to. And I've been doing Jack the Ripper stuff

801
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.440
since i was in the hospital. It's really weird. My

802
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:21.880
head was just blowing a gas kitten.

803
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:25.360
Did any stamps down here have the Queen on them?

804
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:26.559
Yeah?

805
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:27.280
I have.

806
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:30.400
Let me see if I can get my picture of it.

807
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:31.719
I was so excited.

808
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:33.679
About, here's the color version. I do have the color

809
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:34.519
version in here.

810
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:36.280
She's there there.

811
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:38.760
That's seventeen the history.

812
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.320
Of not only there's stamp history, it's the world's history.

813
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:45.280
She's the first person ever on a n Heva stamp.

814
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.639
And it has to do with eighteen thirty seven and

815
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:53.639
eighteen forty and then our people went over to England

816
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:57.239
to create that first step. Their Americans evolved New England

817
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:02.880
and then this get really bizarre Sclimbone Society stenographic code.

818
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:05.559
All right, let's hold, let's let's get there. Let's let's

819
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:05.920
get there.

820
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.559
All right, So on this I have the lilac envelope.

821
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:13.360
And you you believe that that lilac is a tie

822
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:14.760
back to the lilac penny.

823
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:15.599
What is the lilac?

824
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:19.679
Oh, definitely, it's the world's most first historic stamp. I'm

825
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:24.960
so excited about it. If I had money I get Anyways,

826
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:29.360
it's it's very historic, and then that ties into our

827
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:34.519
actual postal service system because it gets started there in

828
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:39.360
London and it's it's amazing. So it's too much to

829
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:40.239
get involved with.

830
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:41.719
Right, you.

831
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.920
Have to soolve on this envelope and I'm on page

832
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:49.320
one of two here, well, I actually have both of

833
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.679
them up page one, Yes of it?

834
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:53.639
Do you want to go ahead and read what you believe?

835
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:55.320
Let's just do that envelope.

836
00:43:56.079 --> 00:44:00.320
Yes, it's what what I got is April second, two

837
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.159
thousand and five. President George H. W. Bush and son

838
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:09.360
President George W. Bush fac simile that it's a fax

839
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.559
at the time, and it's I got the time in there,

840
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:17.599
six thirty four pm Eastern time. His Holiness, the Totus

841
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:23.239
TUIs nine nine nine Pope died. I'm mad again. He's

842
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:26.480
fully stressing his head is blown, and then the same

843
00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:32.519
please will be use remedium AA, which is alcoholics anonymous.

844
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:35.920
We're ceremony. And then he's calming down. He's saying, I'm

845
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:40.920
on a mission NASA, goddamn effort to die. I'm to

846
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:44.719
gut him July fourteenth, two thousand and five, and the

847
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:50.159
BNS Railroad is to run Robert Abeloba. That happened. Anyways,

848
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:54.360
regarding your request, this is where my head was blowing

849
00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:58.360
on three fourth, two thousand and five. That's my birthday.

850
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:03.679
By the way, is this way? I said July thirty first,

851
00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:08.519
nineteen sixty nine for r As Randolph appercenterst the big

852
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:13.599
news story plugged by the media newspapers. Please rush to

853
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:19.480
editor George Henningson. That's the editor, Zodiac Letters, Balo Times

854
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:25.480
header Harold Balao, California. But it's a brieved calyp anyways,

855
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:31.400
ninety four five nine zero envelope. You're asking, yes, I

856
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:37.559
can crack r A sent opt nineteen eighty seven Centennial

857
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:42.719
of eighteen eighty seven events, brown envelope from one A

858
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:49.039
North Saint John's, Newfoundland, Canada to England, Great Britain with

859
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:52.559
four Royal mail seventeen P. The seventeen P. You're not

860
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:54.360
going to understand why that's important.

861
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:56.039
So I always say that, okay.

862
00:45:55.800 --> 00:46:00.760
Yeah, seventeen p stamps two sideways nineteen eighty five booklet

863
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:05.320
pain All this is in there, perforations fourteen X fifteen

864
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:10.599
pause thirty mm. That's anyways, then pause forty one mm.

865
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:14.000
He can't breathe. He's having trouble breathing. So anyways, with

866
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:21.199
two total twenty two cents, Frank J. Whisle like stamps

867
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:26.119
flag over Capitol Hill Building, please focus on the blurry

868
00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:33.280
three fifties anniversary stamp has historic first adhesive stamp reference

869
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:37.800
to eighteen thirty seven Queen Victoria image used for eighteen

870
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:43.360
forty historic first, and then he's pausing Bureau of Printing

871
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:46.199
and Engraving. That's our side of the stamps booklet pain.

872
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:51.079
Frank wasla today. I sent proof I can crack Randolph

873
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:56.000
Apperson for his father, William Randolph Apper Stender's father. Oh,

874
00:46:56.039 --> 00:47:01.800
my god, Jack the Ripper letters I sent both facsimile

875
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:06.880
of nineteen seventy eight Zodiac era a letter with similar

876
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:13.519
centergraphic code found in Jack the Ripper Communications of Postcarden letters.

877
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:17.599
My god, I was my head was blowing. Anyways, dear editor,

878
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:24.679
the Zodiac printing night way, it's misspelled VPD deshero catch

879
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:28.760
me if can guess. That's a question. So with the

880
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:33.320
missing punctus interrogativeness, you're going to get that. But anyways,

881
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:38.039
the symbol now known as question mark and the letter

882
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:41.800
is missing exclamation marks, just like Jack the Ripper ones,

883
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:46.440
this is all in this anyways the truth. Wait a minute,

884
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:51.519
the symbols zodiac symbol that has code keys, and then

885
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:55.599
it's saying, oh FYI to tell the truth tttt his

886
00:47:55.679 --> 00:48:00.840
favorite thing. I also provided sent my d on the

887
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:05.440
Robert Graysmith Halloween card envelope in the adhesib at He's

888
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:10.280
of earth Rise stamp is xerox copied my printing of

889
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:14.599
the nine to four nine five zero Valeo calif envelope

890
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:19.239
using a lilac color paper for to prove I can

891
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:23.800
crack the circa eighteen eighty eight Lilac penny stamp or

892
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:28.440
a HER's father's William Grand offers Jack the Ripper letters

893
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:33.079
said to Scotland Yard here of Queen Elizabeth again. Sent

894
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:39.559
in nineteen eighty seven v CIA in an IBM PC

895
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:46.920
four forty computer using tat tattletale Dennis Kaufman's America Online account.

896
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:51.760
My god, he had one identification and based on very

897
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:57.679
limited IBM color data the OPT one nine eighteen eighty

898
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:01.519
eight Saucy Jack postcard photo review or he had looked.

899
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.480
He found the same code keys The code keys are

900
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:10.199
President Benjamin Harrison in the same Scole and Bone's Society

901
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:13.639
Standard graph system. I know how to create these. I

902
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:17.960
know he's saying this. Such coded missives by so again

903
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:22.760
I can crack them. Civil War Lincoln, Confederate Secret Service

904
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:27.679
spy John Saratt the second and messages to William Randolph

905
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:32.519
Heurst you photo roviewer are printed. Both the SP seventeen

906
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:38.679
that's abbreviation for September eighteen eighty eight and SP twenty seventh.

907
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:42.920
There's one's a postcard, one state letter anyways, eighteen eighty eight.

908
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:46.519
One is the postcard. The other is a letter which has.

909
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:49.880
Okay and two seconds. I'm sorry to have to cut

910
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.159
you off, Harriet. Oh my god, run out of time.

911
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.199
I know we're gonna have to come. We're going to

912
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:56.159
have to come back to it and finish that off

913
00:49:56.199 --> 00:49:57.159
for everybody next week.

914
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:00.320
So we'll start that one over here at time. I'll

915
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:01.920
have some questions for you.

916
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:05.440
Yeah, you guys are the brother of Mary Sarat.

917
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:07.559
We don't We're gonna.

918
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:11.440
We're gonna you guys, we have to tell Yes, we'll

919
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:13.760
cover all of this next week. Thank you both for

920
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:16.440
being here, and we'll get with you guys. Everybody, have

921
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:19.639
a wonderful weekend and we'll see you next Friday.

922
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:38.079
Okay,