Paul Stine Letter and Solves by Harriette Sucher

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True seekers and true crime junkies.
Welcome back to another episode of Hit

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the Road, Jack Finding the Zodiac. Welcome to our new time slot as

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well. We are now ten am
Pacific Standard time, one o'clock Eastern Standard

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time. Thank you for joining us
and for listening. So today we have

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an exciting show in regards to the
souls of Harriet Susher on the Paul Stein

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letter after the Paul Stein murder.
Nolan del Campbell will be joining us today

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as well, so I'd like to
bring all of them on. Good Morning,

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Good morning. I have a funny
question to s last week. Yeah,

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you said, oh my god,
what's that unearthly sound that? And

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then Nolan was like, Harriet,
I think all I know is I do

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remember lightly burping last week, So
all I know is I was reviewing it.

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Yeah, not not show material,
but thank you. I wanted all

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I wanted to let people know is
a related pardon. Yeah, nobody nobody

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heard. Nobody knew we would all
out. I was thinking that would be

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funny that I would be famous for
the bur heard round the world on the

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god it was an earthquake. So
anyways, I just wanted to literally clear

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the air there. Evidently you did. But last week, last week,

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we weren't on. It was the
week before, right, yeah, I

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think so it's been a middle we're
doing something. But anyways, so we're

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here and I got I got to
solve in here and the other one you

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know from from this flip. I'm
pulling out papers. That's okay, I'm

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going to have those up on the
presentation and for everyone to see. So

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I'm going to go ahead and have
the presentation popped up at this point and

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then that way we can start going
over some of those things. So again

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starting out with why Jack is the
Zodiac, today we're going to talk about

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the cipher solves, the grill cipher, anagrams, Latin substitutions, several different

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methods correct Harriot, Yeah, great, And these are all going to be

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based on the paul Stein letter,
which is him taking credit for the actual

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crime of shooting Paul Stein, and
which case he had also mailed in a

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piece of the shirt. And I've
got some interesting questions about this shirt because

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in my research I've I've kind of
looked at some things and we're going to

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go over those. But for right
now, I just threw up these original

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wanted posters by the SFPD. We
can see if anybody takes a close look,

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they can see at the differences within
five days. So one wanted poster

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was thirteenth, nineteen sixty nine.
The second one was an amended poster done

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October eighteenth, nineteen sixty nine.
For the most part, what I can

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see is that they added some wrinkles
to the forehead, They added some wrinkles

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to the chip to the neck,
which is what I'm assuming when they talked

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a little bit about a turkey neck
and why they were able to age this

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individual who was the suspect into his
early forties. Sorry. We can also

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see here that they have outlined all
of these particular composites with what appears to

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be a clear I would presume,
now, Nolan, you tell me if

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I'm wrong, you work in the
criminal field. But if somebody was to

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put out a composite with and let's
say the Zodiac was seen with black rim

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glasses, wouldn't we see that on
the composite. Yes, you'd think so,

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right, I mean, because this
gives me the accurate as you can

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be. Yeah, right. And
so when I look at these with these

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clear frames, it's telling me that
these are clear. We do know that

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they stated that they were plastic frames. In one case somebody indicated heavy rimmed,

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and I'm not sure what they mean
by heavy rimmed, but by the

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looks of these, it would tell
me that these were clear. And when

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I look at Jack's photos, predominantly
he tends to like a clear frame eyeglass.

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He's probably a little egotistical, narcissistic, maybe even, and he likes

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the face to be seen, not
a glasses. And we can see that

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even up here, while there's more
of a brown tint to the top,

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we can still see that the bottom
is still a clear plastic We do have

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a match there with that. At
any rate, that brings us to the

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Paul Stein letter, which we're going
to be discussing. Both the letter and

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the solves today. This one was
taken in on the known Zodiac letters from

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the FOIA files, in which case
they did process for DNA and they did

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find few cells. Now we don't
know who cells they are since we were

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just told I guess within the last
couple of weeks through Dennis's book that Jack

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would actually use somebody else's spit from
a canteen as if he was having individuals

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spit in it, and then he
was using that to actually UM lubricate his

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envelopes. Anyways, the right Well, and they did say that they got

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to DNA sources off of UM Jack's
letter, but they weren't able to or

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neither of them were actually Jack's DNA. So yes, he's definitely sealing his

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letters with somebody else's DNA. Right. Well, up, these were actually

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I believe I believe these letters were
actually UM later in life because they were

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something that Dennis had that either Jack
had mailed to Nora or had mailed to

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Dennis himself, and so he had
provided those envelopes to to the FBI.

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UM knew about the future of DNA
day I mean, is the zodiac and

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when he's involved with so he was
just playing it careful safe exactly. So

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on October eleventh, nineteen sixty nine, the letter for Paul Stein, Well,

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I think it says ten thirteen sixty
nine here so we know that October

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eleventh, nineteen sixty nine was the
actual murder date. Correct m So following

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that murder two days later, enclosed
with this piece of shirt. Right here

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is a letter that is mailed to
the San Francisco Chronicle and it says,

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this is the Zodiac speaking. I
am the murderer of the taxi driver over

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by Washington Street and Maple Street last
night. To prove this, here is

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a bloodstained piece of his shirt.
I am the same man who did in

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the people in the North North Bay
area. The San Francisco police could have

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caught me last night if they had
searched the park properly. Instead of holding

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road races with their motorcycles scene who
could make the most noise. The car

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drivers should have just pack parked their
car and sat there quietly waiting for me

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to come out of cover. School
Children make nice targets. I think I

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shall wipe out a school bus some
morning, Just shoot out the front tire

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and then pick off the kiddies as
they come bouncing out, signed off the

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Zodiac. Okay, we do have
a received there of October thirteenth. Now,

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a couple of things I want to
notate about this is that I showed

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some consistency with this letter, including
this area right here of the I N

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G where it becomes increasingly smaller than
the balance of the word, and that

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was something that both Zodiac and Jack
showed a habit of doing. He's talking

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about the Park Julius con playground,
which is where he snuck into in the

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Presidio. Playgrounds are amo in the
serial killings, and we see make nice

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targets as something that was stated in
the Scorpion Lads Scorpion letters that go to

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John Walsh at a later date.
He is saying, to prove that he

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is the killer, is his need
for recognition and being taken seriously for these

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crimes. And he's taking blame for
the North Bay area murders, which we

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know we just covered a majority of
those. Splitting of the words like the

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word instead, Let's see where we
have that right here in nice, big

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giant space. Stead Splitting of the
words is something we notated for both Zodiac

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and Jack. Faulting the police for
screwing around. Of course he's going to

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call them out because he does indeed
feel that he is better at this point

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than law enforcement and FBI. We
will later see that he also includes the

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CIA, which kind of led me
to think that maybe he was NSA.

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Right. I'm understanding lately now that
some of the things I've done recently that

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we're going to cover soon, and
he's definitely CIA circa seventy seventy one.

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So I think he's the CIA,
you know, and he doesn't really want

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to. He must have contact us
the Born movies handlers or no, no,

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the actual assassins. I forgive what
they call him. Yeah, Manchurian

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candide. Yeah, I know.
This is one that he included the swath

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of Paul Starin's bloody clothing, right
right, I have that right up here.

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This is purportedly the piece of shirt
that actually came in that letter.

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So he also mentions pick off the
kiddies, which is a statement that is

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written in a later communication in the
Atlanta, Georgia Child Killerships the school bust

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scare to give the cops some busy
work. So Jack, we know,

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at this point in time, was
living in a converted school bus. And

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I've heard now from Moonlight, which
we'll be talking about some information she Um

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has given here recently. But she
also believes that the Zodiac was saying that

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he was the bomb. And I
have said for many years that I felt

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that that's exactly what he was saying. He's the bomb that they're looking for.

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And he also and he's also be
full of explosive material. Yes he

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is, to say yeah. And
then, last but not least, in

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regards to the makeup of this letter, we saw the hyphenation of words again.

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So here is target, um,
let's see make nice. Well,

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I am not even sure he said
target has a hyphen and then it goes

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on to okay, well, oh
no, that's et Sorry, I need

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my glasses clearly, So yes,
he hypenates words at the end of a

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sentence. He hyphenates mid sentence.
So again that is just another criteria for

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andwriting that we had that was consistent. So that actually brings me into some

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of the other things that I found
inside the letter, which is I am

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the same man who did in the
people in the North Bay area. Motorcycles

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is spelled incorrectly, fronts spelled incorrectly. Kitties as they come bouncing out is

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an unusual phrase, obviously, and
then the envelope please rush the editor.

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The backside of the envelope said please, and I'm assuming must have been rush

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again, but I was unable to
read that to editor. Now they did

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mention here after going okay, so
he was wiping down the cab with a

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handkerchief after going through the victim's pockets, then dash up Cherry Street to in

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the direction of the presidio. Later
reports indicated someone was seen running into Julius

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con playground in the presidio and all
seven police dog units were pressed into the

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search. The suspect was described as
white, about forty one hundred and seventy

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pounds a blonde crew cut. So
we keep getting these very degrees of size

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and weight and age, and obviously
we know that the newspapers are never going

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to be accurate on producing those numbers. And that's why we all have something

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to argue about at the end of
the day. Because I watched Fox forty,

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you watched CNN, and you watched
UM what was what was enough?

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Either way, we've all watched something
different. We all have different numbers and

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it all gives us something to sit
around and argue about. Um Again,

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here's a closeup of that swap.
Now that brings us is that you you

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got some sirens. That's perfect for
the crime shows. They're still tasting jack

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it is Davis, Okay. So
that brings us up to what um will

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be the first solve that Harry is
going to talk about, and that is

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the grill cipher solve of the Paul
Stein letter. Now, let's seeing you

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had this one was based on taking
the three forty right or is it the

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I'm sorry, the Z four awight
has the grul cipher and you laid that

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over the top. What's that?
Oh? Nothing? Ye yeah, you

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laid the Z. It's going on
top of the Z four away and picking

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out the where the odd dots and
blobs are the as much as much as

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I can, because I think this
is again my eighth or ninth, maybe

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tenth that I've done at the time, and you know, picking out and

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who knew that that's what was saying
in the Deer the Deer Sergeant Lynch card.

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You know, um, you know
you take this and put it on

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top and where the weird dots and
blobs misspelt punctuation things. You pick out

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the code symbols and then the code
keys and then an agram. So yeah,

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that's h and I tried to line
it up as best as I could,

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which row and so on. But
so basically all of these marks up

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here is at some point where the
girl cipher lined up with these particular letters.

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So why the SF or is that
just the punctuation that caused you?

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Because it was, Yeah, it
was something unusual instead of San Francisco Police

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as saying s F side thought.
And it's capitalized too, which it should

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be out and then and it worked
because it came out with a message,

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all right, and that message do
you want to read that one for us?

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Yeah? The message I came out
with was and that's saying in the

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book The World. According to Jack
Tarns, this is a Z four awake

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bril cipher than intagram which mentions Paul
Stein. It says Jim see Darlene hit

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r K, I see you victim
met Paul Lee Stein, East Pa.

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Or Jim Phillips see Darlene hit Rubbert
and of the intensive care unit victim,

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which is Darlene met Paul East Sign
East Pennsylvania. So that could have to

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the theory that Darlene Barren was the
girl in the polka dot dress in the

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Arc assassination. Yeah, Jim Phillips. That's her first husband. And he's

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oh Jim, I thought it was
crab Tree. Yeah. Yeah, it's

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Jim Phillips Crabtree because he was he
was adopted. So yeah, anyway,

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but he's a trained assassin by the
military. That's all the things that people

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were quietly not wanting to talk about
for years. That's why they thought Jim

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Phillips might be the Zodiac in the
early seventies. But he's you know,

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he's not. But and that's what
it says in the book. It says

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Darlene Farren was born Darlene Suen.
It married Jim Phillips, a military man

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and trained assassin nineteen sixties, divorced
and quickly married Dean Farren. So gotcha,

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Okay, I was wondering who Phillips
wasn't I just never Okay, we

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now know. So that's Jim Crabtree, which everybody will recognize that name as

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her former husband. All right now
on the next one, um is this

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this is oh, this is actually
the um is this the actual way that

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you solved it. These circles that
you placed over, that's from the Dennis's

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book. That Dennis's book, well, it's the first book. Orbius cinna

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her that's not Oh, these are
the first letters of each word. That's

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the one that for some reason,
um and that's an orbius cinna her is

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for some reason, I don't know
exactly why. Now, why did Lauren

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swearing and say, Harriet, I
think you can do this. Each first

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word of each letter is Latin and
it codes into a message. And that's

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when we were all partying ways.
He had stopped dealing with you, and

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my last phone call with him was
he was telling me that there's a message

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there. I believe you could do
it. And so I'm circling all the

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first letters of letters word and it
came out with an amazing message. So,

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you know, so basically, how
did you attribute those particular letters to

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some Latin word? That's what he
said, look up the Latin phrases,

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look up, you know, and
we're talking about things that could take hours,

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which it did, and so it
came out with something amazing you know.

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Okay, so I've pulled that in. So basically, the first letter

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of all the words we can see
right here. Here's the main part of

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the zodiac letter. Let's see,
first letter of each word is the iatmot

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T d OB. Now, so
then you literally wrote it in that order.

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But then let's say I A you
interpreted that to be inter alia.

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Yeah, what what made you attribute
those particular words to those letters? Well,

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I had to see which words are
going to meld with something else.

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Once we understood that Jack was CIA
or something of intel with I A enter

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elias, he's using that a lot
in the future ones that I've done.

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Oh, it means that he's a
that he's in disguise, or he's a

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spy, or or somebody else's in
disguise or a spy, and these us

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it means a different alias. Okay, so then let's take a look at

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what that actually worked out to be. You have let me see, oh

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I thought I had enter alias.
Okay, here is the actual solve itself.

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So we'll come back to this southern
bottom portion. But if you want

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to read that solve as it appertains
to the Latin version. Yeah, that's

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this. This one took months to
do, but let's give it a try.

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Enter alia tempora mutineer oh tempora,
tempest thy obit bona warium, encian

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sikh pier say mundus sinest legia leggett
m nunc two bar pace or pots sorry.

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That's Latin anyways. Tua honus enter
AliOS bona saio pair oh honous,

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sick enter AliOS, tempera stet momento
veritus, vincent day in tempera per in

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tortis nola bono rabbi robus tenio.
That's an important phrase, by the way,

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anyways. Semper forte per cave hinc
compas mentis leget m nunc in tootis

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homo sik timar papal palas in ordine
homo rosa ruba kundior, where m encium

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timor mortis cito, where um encium
compus mentis timor mortis nola tubari corpus the

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lecti, sick onerous, judicium,
patriarch teodor, consensa per say stet trinis

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quad warum encium fortune maya to totis
circa omnia, omnibus cave sik causa mortis

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sinc testimonium, and tempore and sick
warreamson obit up sobol i don't speak Latin.

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I know, I know English.
Yeah, I'm going there's going to

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be the translation into English. Ceo
Bono's sicilit momento udo stet oreta tua facto

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tests per se to Peter on the
potents tempest calestra on a tbe corday beatas

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orden. Now, just before we
move on, one of the things I

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noticed is that you had die obit
up here. Now, die obit is

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actually one of these solves that Lauren
swearing him came up with, where time

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parte obtem. I think we talked
about that in the original three forty or

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the four o eight, sorry,
the four o eight sipher where he talked,

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and that actually came out in his
So this will be interesting. This

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is I think this is why he
was because I was understanding that how to

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look it up in all kinds of
complexities, and they said, Harriet,

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I think you can do this.
So you know it took four months to

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do this. Now, and I
want to also quote that the FBI files

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discussed the use of decoding as being
the first letter of the word and Lauren

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Lauren like I will like you,
said Lauren swearing him and backed you in

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this concept soum, this is actually
what this letter says. So let's go

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ahead and read the English version that
people would will understand. It's amazing,

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okay, among other things, time
changes, oh the times. The day

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one died a good hero. Thus
and by itself, the world grows old

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lawfully. Now in book of secrets, I will protect with your permission honor

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among aliases, the agents and people
with other names. Who's good I know?

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For honor among aliases this time let
it stand. But remember truth conquers

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given in time for all. Because
it is not good to hold the wolf

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by its ears, as it is
dangerous. It is a dangerous situation to

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hold or let go. Must remain
brave for beware mine could Oh now we

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froze up its audience. Well,
no, it looks like she completely froze.

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Oh she's frozen yet. All right, I'm going to keep reading this

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because we are continue reading it.
Yeah, and so must remain brave for

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beware. Mind control now legal in
total as one. Thus fear Pope paulous

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documents respectfully in order. One red
Rose hero I know is of sane mind,

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So in fear of death, do
not disturb body of the offense trial

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investigations. Judge your patriarchy. I
will protect things to be corrected, and

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essentially stand three times that of a
hero artisan of my fate all around,

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all things to all men beware because
of death now testimony in the book,

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in Book of Secrets and time,
such hero is absolved. Who I know

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is good when permitted to know.
Remember, Judith, let it stand and

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speak your facts witnessed, and essentially
you're almighty pope who cannot lie, as

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witnessed from your predest youth to beautiful
old womanhood. We consecrate your young man

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to good order. Oh so are
you still there? No one? Okay?

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I saw you looked away. So
some of the interesting points that came

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up in this was holding the wolf
by the ears um, the reference to

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Judith's I think Judith Baker is somebody
that she had spoken about in regards to

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information in regards to the JFK crime. Um. Let's see. Oh I

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hope she climbs back on um.
There is the mention of mind control.

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Hello, hello, are you here? Unstable internet connection? Well you and

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Harriet? I can still hear you? Can you hear me? Are having

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problems? Are going on? I
can hear you now, But okay,

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I'm not plugged into a wall.
I'm just going on battery power. So

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that's probably part of my problem because
inside it was too loud. Outside too

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well. We were just stating that
there were some things about Jude Baker,

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who was involved somehow with the JFK
stuff. I hope Harry it's able to

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climb back on to kind of sort
this out and explain this to us.

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I'll just kind of move on to
one of the theories that we went to

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because she talked about the wolf,
and when I looked up the wolf in

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regards to let's say politicians and politics
and things of that nature, I came

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up with a few societies out of
Yale. One of them was the School

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in Bones Society, which was a
secret society at Yale. The presidency of

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this order is chosen by blood,
not by achievement or academia. So the

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likes of George H. W.
Bush and his son George W. Bush

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and pretty much you must have been
the elite of the elite going to Yale

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to get into this society. M
Morrison our Wait was actually a Chief Chief

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Justice of the Supreme Court who was
also in the society. I noted that

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because we saw we saw Jack misspell
the word weight or use the word weight

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with an E at the end of
it in a couple places. Probably purely

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a coincidence, but he was a
member of Skull and Bones. Um wait

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is actually used in the Lipstick Murder
and the Sorry Mary letter, which was

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to have been a hit at Hoover. Now I did kind of put the

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U I put the l ls up
here. We also found one about the

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Wolf's Head Society, and I also
found one about the Scroll and Key.

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The interesting part about the Scrolling Key
Society is that at Yale is that this

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began as a result of the individuals
who didn't believe that blood versus academics dictated

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who was in and who was out
of these secret societies. So they went

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and created their own secret society,
the Scroll and Key, based on academia

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and not blood. Then that actually
spilled off into actually, let's take a

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look at some of the members.
Here. We had cord Meyer Junior,

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which I showed right right, Ord
Meyer from another wife or Mary Pincho Meyer,

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who is part of this display as
a murder victim. So we had

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a myer relation. We had the
Chicago Tribunes, Robert R. McCormick.

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We had the Southern Pacific Railroad owner
Rockefeller, Vanderbilts, Seymour Knox, the

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American retailer F. W. Woolworth
Company. We know that the paper one

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of the letters that the Zodiac wrote
in on was from F. W.

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Woolworth Company. I joked about the
Myers murder being the time and place where

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Jack picked up the paper that he
used, so there may be some type

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of connection there, but that would
have been when he would have had access

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to grab the paper for the upcoming
murder. Benjamin Brewster, who is Standard

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Oil and Exxon, the Watergate special
prosecutor, University presidents and political figures and

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journalists alike were all entered into the
Scroll and Key Society. Then there was

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a third spinoff. Obviously, people
are just not ready to accept not being

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part of these secret society so they
just keep developing new ones. Okay,

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I'll come right back to you in
a second. And then we had the

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Wolfshead Society, which is another secret
society at Yale, which is another spinoff

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after these Scroll and Key. So
you will still undoubtedly be filthy rich to

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be any in any of these organizations. And part of the political making atmosphere

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of our United States and maybe even
the world. So let's take that back

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now, and maybe you can give
us some explanation to the I went ahead

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and I finished reading that solve Harriet, so tell us a little bit about

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it. Well, once I got
to the bottom, it's about this time

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period because I'm seeing that the person
is Judith, and i had just found

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out that Judith Barry Baker did know
Oswald and she was trying now fifty years

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later to turn things around. He's
predicting here that there's going to be a

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time where we're going to deal with
the truth as to who really killed Kennedy,

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that there was going to be secrets
kept even by Pope Paul. There

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was Pope Paul documents that Oswald had
some kind of connection to And this is

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way back how many decades and now
it's we're fast forwarding to now that there

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was changes that we're supposed to become
after the secrets of keeping you know,

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who killed Kennedy and why, because
in my view, after doing this,

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that that they were trying to keep
that actually secret because they were really going

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to go after those who killed the
Kennedy's and even Martin Luther King. So,

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but you can see the mind control
thing. Oh my god, there

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was a lot of people that were
under mind control, go ahead knowing when

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they asked. When they asked Cordon
Meyer, who killed Mary Peter Schoumeier,

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he said, same people that killed
Kennedy. He worked for the group,

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he worked for the CIA, basically
saying killed them. Wow, that just

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gave me goose bumps. That's what
seeing at the bottom that says, we

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will concentrate your young man to good
order. There was a lot of people

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at the time, of course,
where being force fed that Oswald is a

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one who did it. Don't ask
questions. And there are people now in

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m about this time period who are
able to clean up some of the older

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film you know, of other people's
pictures, and it's showing that Oswald was

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downstairs in the doorway standing next to
Billy Shelley, that he was actually h

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and I've been to Dallas, I've
been to the Daily Peril. Oh my

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god, there's just no way a
shot could come from that window. So

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here we are as all these years
later, but he's predicting that there's going

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to be a time that we will
have to reverse and rewrite history. Are

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you telling me you don't believe in
things like the movie The Matrix with Keanu

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Reeves where bullets actually curve and make
corners and yeah, and you know what,

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my god, my bad, you
know what I'm wrong. It's got

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to be Gary Post. So I
mean, you know, let's just ramp

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up the show. I'm gonna I'm
gonna take us back a couple of slides

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here because you also found a message
at the bottom of it, says Harriet

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Sucher's Stein letter method for solve is
described in the message, just as it

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was in the Sergeant Lynch letter.
So an anagram you, um, this

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is the zodiac speaking you anagram?
Just that section, correct, Yeah,

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and that came up with eleven g
h E n H E is um z

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SSP t t K d o A. Can you tell us what all that

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means? Yeah, eleven g H
E. Let's say I'm trying to read

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it is in the book page It's
page twenty three, twenty three of Orbis

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Cinaper. Okay, thank you for
reminding me about my own book. Okay,

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it's it's that's unfair. It's in
my it's on my presentation right in

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front of my face. So here
it is like perfect. So can you

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tell us what that message reads?
It says uh guy guy, Minister g

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h E. So let's say Banister
oswald E for layout plan. That's a

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building, you know, like ah, where you're doing a layout. The

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shape is a layout and then it
says to save JFK. And then end

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for Nigel, he is Michael Nigel. Sorry anyways of the book by Dick

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Russell called The Man Who Knew Too
Much, which is about he was trying

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to support the Kennedy assassination, was
because he was in on it and he

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didn't want Kennedy to be murdered.
But reporting, well, it's basically saying

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he is z monarcade. The shape
of the motorcade route, which anyways,

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it says changed, and then Secret
Service as ss uh P for a higher

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gun gun baying tattle tale, Oh
my god, Jack and his tts tattle

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tale. And then Kennedy DA did
on a rifle. So you're saying something

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about that there was a change in
the motorcake root, which it was true.

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It was last second and so instead
of zig zagging they had to go,

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they went a different way, and
it made it easier to UM to

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hit JFK. So how did you
argue, how did you turn with you

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go ahead? How did you say
taking the jury changing the route the car

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had the limo had to slow down, making it easier to shoot it.

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Yeah, see that's what. Yeah. Now you attributed the letter P to

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hired gun. That was that was
luring The P looked like a gun,

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you know, because Terry Batcher has
been saying the same thing this entire time,

403
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:52.599
the RS and that the different letters
appeared to imitate weapons like either a

404
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:57.039
noose by rope or a gun or
a knife or things like that. So

405
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:00.679
very interesting. All right, So
we have another message that has kind of

406
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:06.079
yielded itself out to something that is
now known. But have you ever read

407
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:10.679
Nagol's book, Harriet No, So
very interesting Nolan that she comes up with

408
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:15.320
the solve that is fairly similar to
what Nagol is stating in his own book.

409
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.880
Correct. Well, yeah, it's
actually Dick Russell wrote the biography of

410
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.159
Nagol. Oh gotcha, and he
says these these things. It's about the

411
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:28.079
plot to assassinate Kennedy and Nichols involvement, and there's a lot about Oswald in

412
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:32.480
the book too, was part of
a bigger plot, but he was truly

413
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:37.480
a patsy, gotcha. So but
just you see the part where it says,

414
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:43.800
and how just even pau Lye Stein
and Anna rams and Latin, please

415
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:50.599
use Latin in French. That's interesting. Yeah, so yeah, so like

416
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:53.920
the Sergeant Lynch letter giving them an
idea of how to use the four oh

417
00:37:53.960 --> 00:38:00.519
eight plus the codes, now Paul
Lee Stein is mentioning Anna rams Um and

418
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:07.719
using the Latin in French or please
use Latin basically, uh, and so

419
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:12.480
that kind of back. This is
when I'm getting my feet trying to do

420
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:17.400
these things, right, Yeah,
letter a line because we think I think

421
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:21.599
I heard he died, but anyways, he had faith in me, you

422
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:28.079
know, right, all right,
So you also came out with um another

423
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:32.360
like it looks bottom of the letter
anagram after targets. So targets was your

424
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:37.840
cut off point on the Paul Stine
Stein letter, and then that bottom portion

425
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:45.519
UM became you said an anagram.
Right, I'm looking forward, Okay,

426
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:49.800
which page of my UM? I
don't actually have the page number on this

427
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.000
one, but it definitely looks like
something out of order. You might have

428
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:58.320
sent this to me. This might
this is very old from my presentation.

429
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:00.639
Yeah, it's on the screen.
If you want to read the bottom portion

430
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:09.800
of it. Let's see it,
says ums. Bob k Oh says PostScript

431
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:22.519
Bobby Kennedy, Oswald Mafios's Secret Service
Tattletale at CIA Technical Services signed Jack WT,

432
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.800
I believe, but saying signed Jack, it's it's a message for Jack.

433
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:30.840
He's trying to relay a message that
you got some pretty bad people in

434
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:36.880
the Secret Service. So so we
got your The anagram of these letters came

435
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:42.360
out to PS Bob Ko Mafio,
so s s t T at CIA is

436
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:46.320
j WT. And funny he keeps
saying tattletale because he sounds like a tattletale

437
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:51.519
based on all your solves. Oh
yeah, he's just wait until you see

438
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:59.119
the two thousand and one Anthrax letters. So so signed off Tattletale signed off

439
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:02.800
though at the end JWT. So
you end up with JAWT is leftover letters,

440
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:08.039
and that is Jack W. Terrence. Folks are very very very common

441
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:12.840
for Jack to do that when you're
doing these anagrams, and then you're like,

442
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.719
okay, I'm left with a couple
of letters of my first My first

443
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:22.960
experience was jat oh that means Jack
Terrence. So okay, right, all

444
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:30.519
right, so we're gonna step into
actually something that is involved with moonlight.

445
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:36.039
I've been hearing from her quite often
about how this blue Chevy that Jack and

446
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:38.719
Nora are standing in front of,
which I am now believing that this letter

447
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:45.280
or this picture is probably more circa
nineteen seventy two because we have them dressed

448
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:49.719
in summer attire, we have full
trees all the way around, it doesn't

449
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:53.239
look like it's wintertime. And it
turns out that this vehicle was actually owned

450
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:59.639
by Nora, not by Jack.
So the ice blue Chevy that Dennis has

451
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:05.760
claimed was Jack Terrence's this entire time
actually was purchased in December seventh of nineteen

452
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.800
seventy one by Nora. Now I'm
not going to state that this means that

453
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:13.599
it is not available to Jack.
Before this. Jack is known to buy

454
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:17.199
vehicles from family members. This could
have been something that either a family member

455
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:22.840
owned or was circularly circulating around in
the group, and Nora bought it from

456
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.880
that person. So I'm not going
to say he absolutely didn't have access to

457
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.719
it, but based on this document, it is supporting that Nora didn't even

458
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.880
own it until nineteen seventy one,
So that kind of rules out him having

459
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:38.760
access to a at this point anyways, unless I find other evidence that suggests

460
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:45.519
otherwise, rules out him having owned
this vehicle or been in this vehicle in

461
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:49.679
nineteen sixty nine. Now, of
course I had to use somebody else's registration

462
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.239
slip in order to make out some
of these numbers and determine what they made

463
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:57.239
what they meant. But I was
able to map out the bin number and

464
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:06.039
the body style or type. It
is a Chevy. Oh gosh, what

465
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:10.320
was this one again? This is
the class was an al And of course

466
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:14.199
we see that it was made in
nineteen sixty four, so it is in

467
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:17.239
nineteen sixty four Chevy that was purchased
by Nora in seventy one, and she

468
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:21.639
sold it in nineteen seventy five.
It looks like just before they moved to

469
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:27.239
Cotton, Minnesota. And some further
information that I found on that was after

470
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.199
breaking apart the bin number, So
basically the bin number for Chevys during this

471
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:34.599
timeframe, the first letter or the
first number was the year, so this

472
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.480
is a nineteen sixty four. The
second one is a car series, which

473
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:40.079
is an eleven, and if you
look over here, the eleven was a

474
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:49.559
Biscayne eleven hundred series six cylinder.
Fourth and fifth numbers are actually the body

475
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:53.880
style, so it was a two
door sedan basically, and then the L

476
00:42:54.360 --> 00:43:00.039
is the assembly plant, which was
Los Angeles. And then finally the actual

477
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:06.239
serial number or the tag number for
that vehicle, in which case that is

478
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:10.199
the number which it was produced.
So it was one hundred and ninety thousand,

479
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:15.920
four hundred and ninety seventh in the
line of these Chevy Biscans. So

480
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:19.800
basically, after looking this up and
I found it on old ride dot com,

481
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.559
it's a plethora of information for old
vehicles. I'm going to begin using

482
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.880
that for all of the vehicles that
we have in registrations, just to make

483
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.840
identifications of those cars. But when
we get right down to it, I

484
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:35.920
also pulled a picture of the Chevy
Biscan. One of the things I want

485
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:40.039
to note here is this panel right
here behind the actual window, which of

486
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:43.639
course this one is a two door, not a four door, but we

487
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:45.639
can see that the panel is the
same there. We can see that the

488
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:52.400
elongation of the actual trunk is consistent
with what we see in the background.

489
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:57.360
Here also this area right here of
the body which has a ridge over the

490
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:00.079
top of the name. That ridge
is plainly seen here. We can see

491
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:05.039
a little bit of the name that's
peeking out there, with a secondary ridge

492
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:08.679
on the bottom that goes right over
the rear tire. Let's see. The

493
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:15.119
gas tank is also right in smack
dab at the point where the hinge of

494
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:19.199
the trunk goes. We can see
here again there is a gas tank that

495
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.920
goes right where the hinge is.
And one of the things I want everybody

496
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:27.719
to notice is that this Chevy Biscaine
at that time a nineteen sixty four model,

497
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:32.199
had rounded tail lights, and the
tail lights were described by the three

498
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:37.639
use at Lake Berryessa as being long
rather than round, so they were not

499
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:40.880
round tail lights. And I think
this is how they came to the conclusion

500
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:45.440
that it was a late nineteen sixty
They called it a late model. Now,

501
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:50.079
can anybody explain this to me?
It's nineteen sixty nine, and it's

502
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:53.239
nineteen sixty seven, and nineteen sixty
six considered a late model at that time,

503
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:58.880
Yeah, it would be a recent
late as a recent model, Oh

504
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:04.559
okay, so yes, because I
found that in nineteen sixty six, the

505
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.239
full size Chevy and Paula bell Air
and Biscayne took a step down as the

506
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:13.199
Caprice became the new top of the
line Chevrolet full sized model, thus taking

507
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:19.360
over the Impaula's luxury image. Nineteen
sixty six Chevy full size styling changes included

508
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.440
the loss of the famous signature round
tail lights, which had been an Impaula

509
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:28.360
trademark since nineteen fifty eight. So
now we have a new large rectangular ones

510
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:31.280
replaced them, along with a more
massively styled front end, so now we

511
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:39.320
can see these long rather than circular
around tail lights as the teenagers had described.

512
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:46.639
Dad had a sixty four Impaula and
the most popular model at that time

513
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:51.599
was the super Sport. There are
a lot smaller than this Biscayne model.

514
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:55.920
They started getting bigger in sixty five
and sixty six, But in sixty four,

515
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.840
which is the most popular of that
era of them, paul is sixty

516
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:07.000
four Supersport, it was more compact. Well, and that just kind of

517
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:10.000
brings us to the point that the
model of the vehicle has to be a

518
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:14.960
sixty six or a sixty seven.
We can clearly see that Nora's vehicle was

519
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:17.280
a sixty four based on the registration, so we know that these are not

520
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:22.000
the same vehicles that were her vehicle
standing behind or sitting behind her. And

521
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:30.039
Jack is not the vehicle that was
cited in my opinion at Lakes. Absolutely

522
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:35.760
absolutely, Now let's see. Okay, Well, then that leaves us up

523
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.800
to free talk for about three minutes, because that's really all I wanted to

524
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:43.719
get out there is that I've excluded
this car as being Jack's. I've excluded

525
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:46.519
this car as one that was used
or seen at Lake Berriessa. We are

526
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:52.800
definitely looking for something with the longer
rather than circular tail lights. And of

527
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:58.119
course there is still that impression of
the blue, whether it's light blue,

528
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.519
sky blue, ice blue. We're
gonna talk about that later on when we

529
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:05.639
get to it. But either way, that car was not part of this

530
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:09.039
particular crime spring. So is there
anything else you guys want to add or

531
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:14.440
talk about in regards to I just
wanted to bring up when I'm seeing right

532
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:22.320
very after the signed decodes that Jack
is bringing up about having a black GT

533
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:28.039
and so he had access to vehicles. They were making sure that they were

534
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:32.840
supplied to him. So you know
some of them, Like you just noted

535
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:37.559
that some of them might look like
a nineteen sixty six vehicle, but they

536
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:43.719
were. There was a lot of
competition, you know, in the vehicle

537
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:47.800
world, So that was a popular
make of nineteen sixty six. Somebody else

538
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:52.719
or four would try to copy and
do something very similar. So so we

539
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:58.320
got a lot of similar looking vehicles, just different years. Well, I

540
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:00.800
know that what I've seen so far. We're going to discuss next week the

541
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:06.440
summary of all the evidence in the
Zodiac case. UM, after all of

542
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:12.440
these attacks, but UM that there
was mention of having seen a white Chevy

543
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:16.039
and Paula a brown some type of
a brown car. I don't know if

544
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:20.880
that was the Renault Caravel. Do
you recall any of those cars? We

545
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:24.760
go, Harriet, I think Jack
was said to have owned a brown Ford

546
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:34.800
Falcon. I think we've lost your
audio again, UM, and then also

547
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:39.519
the UM the blue Chevy. However, UM, in researching all of that,

548
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:43.559
none of the evidence or the information
that I have from the driver of

549
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:47.440
the Chevy is consistent with the Zodiac
killer sightings. So it is at the

550
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:52.119
time now that we have to say
goodbye. I look forward to doing the

551
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:55.159
summary and recap of evidence with you
guys next week. Everybody have a beautiful

552
00:48:55.239 --> 00:49:00.159
weekend. Thank you Harriet and Nolan
for being here. Everybody have a your

553
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:07.039
whole day now you too. Don't
don't fry outside lost everybody's audio all right through out