Nov. 23, 2024

New Letters, New Crimes, and New Solves

New Letters, New Crimes, and New Solves

A new letter and list of victims introduced via a solve from Harriette Sucher. We will look at the Channel Nine News letter from the Zodiac Killer, and a typewritten letter called Friction Tape. These will be followed by the solves from Harriette as...

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A new letter and list of victims introduced via a solve from Harriette Sucher. We will look at the Channel Nine News letter from the Zodiac Killer, and a typewritten letter called Friction Tape. These will be followed by the solves from Harriette as well. We will also see what Jack is up to and where the action is in relation to his proximity which means more unsolved murders.

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Good morning, True seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac

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from vacation, recharged, Ready to go. Got lots of information

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for you all this week. I hope everybody enjoyed Dennis

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Kaufman's documentaries that we played for the last couple of weeks,

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and I did have some actual responses to those being.

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Played once again.

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But first I want to go ahead and invite Harriet

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Soouchet to the show.

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Yes, good morning, we're flying out in northern California. How

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about you.

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They aren't threatening that, aren't they? All the spring that's

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coming in. Hm, I feel like we're get some snow too.

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You think you guys are going to get some snow

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up there.

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I'm told Yeah, they get snow on the East side,

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which those mountains are four thousand and five thousand and

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six thousand feet in this part of northern California. So yeah, well,

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speaking of mountains I was in.

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I was staying my host's family in Switzerland has a

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beautiful hillside house on top of a mountain overlooking Lake Geneva,

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and I could see the Swiss Alps all the way

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across and they were absolutely gorgeous. I've never seen anything

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so oh. I wish I had put some pictures up

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to share.

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With people on here, but I'll be getting them out

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sooner or later.

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I just want to catch everybody up on some YouTube

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comments over the last couple of weeks. So we had

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let's see, well it's at Lyns in mac b eight

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days ago. In regards to the Real Story by Dennis Kaufman,

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stated Nanette all in caps with an exclamation. I absolutely

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love that I have seen spurts of this documentary and

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newscast and never realized that was you in this segment.

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I immediately recognized your voice after seeing it again. Keep pushing,

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and that's what we're doing. Obviously, We're just going to

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keep on rolling with the information that we have. I

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did look all right, I got the stats from Dean

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for last month and we had over twelve and ninety

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total downloads for the month of October. That's exciting. That

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means life of people are tuning in and paying attention.

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Uh one Zacquelin Dmitri Djevic eight days ago, when the

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Zodiac reported the murders on the phone, he didn't have

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an accent like Jack does, and I thought maybe you

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and I, Harriet could address that. I kind of look

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at it like when he called into the Naple Police

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department to report the Lake barriesa murders. The the uh

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what was her name? What was the gallet took that call?

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Oh, the gold Digger Gold whatever her name is. She

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became a famous under she became famous under Void in

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the recent years. But then I'm trying to remember her

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name too. Yeah, she was the one who answered the

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phone Agen.

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And she stated that he spoke with an unusual cadence, right,

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like the deal.

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There was extremely slow and extremely drawn out and not

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necessarily a drawl.

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But when I think about somebody who has an accent,

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if they want to collectively change the sound of their voice,

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you would have to speak slower, right, I.

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Mean, if you're looking to.

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Change an accent, You're going to draw other things out

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to kind of elude.

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That accent so that you're not immediately.

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Recognizable should they come into contact with you in person.

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So I want people to realize that the Zodiac was

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extremely good at hiding his footsteps, his fingerprints, his handwriting,

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all of these things so many years.

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So we are not going to look at it like, oh,

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he didn't have an accent.

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He also spoke in a manner in which the police

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officer stated she'd never heard somebody speak before. So keep

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in mind that if I want to change that, I'm

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going to have to slow down otherwise it's going to

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be extremely recognizable, just like this individual who said I

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recognized your voice after seeing it again. So we also

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had Loan gunmen.

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I think, what's that?

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I just wanted to say real quick?

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He was.

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I think Dennis even agreed that he was trying to

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disguise his Southern Dixon drawl, so he was trying to

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alter that.

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Yes, and so he right, So he spoke in a

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manner that was extremely.

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Slow, kind of like what I'm doing right now in

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order to change that act. Yes, Lone Gunman posted interesting

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on one of the videos on another one good work.

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I subscribed with a final long gun men stating CIA

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contract security, defense firms, newspapers, media, hollywear editors, columnists, cartoonists,

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and a heavy amount of inside information that only someone

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from this very type of crowd would have in order

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to get.

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Away with such crimes. I like the way you think.

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Thank you, long gunman. I'm glad somebody is on board.

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What do you don't there's definitely a challenge, all right.

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So oh, I don't even have my clicker out. Let's

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get her going so we can change screens.

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I'm home. There we go.

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Switzerland.

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What's that?

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I understood that Switzerland here.

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I've been here fifty years and had two marriage proposals.

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I was there for ten days and had eight. So yes,

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maybe I need to go back. Actually that was in Ireland.

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You'll have me some drinks.

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Did you get that message that I sent to you

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requesting you said you found a website that actually did

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the type print like was found on the Sergeant Lynch letter.

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Yes, yeah, So I went with that one because I

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needed to find a feel of that what you were reesting.

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And this is at a website that I called. They

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don't like us dot com. I thought, this is amazing,

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this is really close to circa nineteen seventy typewriter, because

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I had one, my family had one, and they said.

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Well, I would like I would like to be able

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to use it to read. I would like to be

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able to use it to retype that. I would like

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to be able to use it to retype the Doctor

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Dante letter. So I did do a transcription of the

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Doctor Dante letter based on the original typewritten version, cross

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comparing that with the type version that I showed everybody

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the last time, which turns out we know that that

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was transcribed from the original, and then Terry B eventually

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sent us the type the actual type written version from

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the suspect, and I would like to actually transcribe it

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in that fashion. So if you can send me over

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that link to where we go to for that, that

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would be awesome.

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So yeah, I can do that after the show. But

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this this site is saying that that's an accurate reproduction

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of what this thing looks like, and I'm like, this

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this fight has a lot of all the stuff that

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people can't find, and I'm like, how would they know

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that this is supposed to look exactly like this.

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Okay, well, so do they have where you can type

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it up or did you find it retyped already?

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No, it was typed like that. And I'm going to

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go on a limb and saying that that's exactly what

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was sent by Jack that is supposed to be in

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some kind of file somewhere. I'm finding most of these files,

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especially mid Sabanies onward, are actually fact similes that were

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sent on some kind of phone system that most people

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did not have.

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So well, and we saw that Jack actually did have

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a fac simile system because I have some images he

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had sent to Dennis the fac simile at one point

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in time, though I'm not sure I have an actual

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date on it. I'll have to go back and look

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to see how soon he had them. But we know

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that he was a Ham radio operator. We know that

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he had a talent type machine. We know that he

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was at very using computers from back when you had

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to actually key in the DOSS system and tell your

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computer literally what to do. It wasn't an icon or

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a picture that you clicked. You needed to instruct the

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computer how to act. And we know that Jack was

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into exactly.

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The doctor Namer not.

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Really click. There's only stuff that was found in the

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places like the White House, the military, major publishers, and

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he had he missed all of that. He was working

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with a bunch of papers.

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Weather bureaus.

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Yes, lots of individuals, but very high individuals and people

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that needed to be in the know.

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Had access to that kind of stuff, and not a

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lot of time.

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Regoing over the doc letter, even though I thought that

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was something we were going to hit today. I would

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like to see it in actual type print. I do

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have a typewriter, but I think I need to get

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it going. I've not used it before. It was a

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hand me down from somebody, but I thought it would

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be interesting to keep in case I ever needed to

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do something like this.

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I just wanted everybody.

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To actually see though, when we look at the Doctor

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Dante letter and the way it's typed up, minus this

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top line which was actually on the envelope and was

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typed in all caps, most very important, most urgent. Please

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that look at the left margin on this particular letter.

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And I know you can't see this right now, but

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I think I sent you a version of this kit

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and I hear it yep, all colored and okay, so

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what I wanted everybody to see is that we have

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a left margin that is very inconsistent, as if the

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individual is manipulating and playing with this typewriter in a

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way that does not appear to be what a normal

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person would do. I know that typewriters are a thing

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of the past, and most of our younger generations don't

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understand how they But when you came to the end

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of the liner, you hit return, it automatically returned to

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the same exact point in the left margin to keep

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that left margin flushly about a half inch on the

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left hand side of the paper. But if you look

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at what you're seeing on my screen right now, you'll

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take note to the unevenness that the return.

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Probably came back to a certain point.

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But then the person that's typing it actually either had

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to hit the space bar in order to advance it

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forward in order to make this left margin look like this,

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And that made me wonder if there wasn't some type

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of a message inside of.

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That as well.

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Knowing that first and last letters I'm sorry, first and

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last words of the communication was something that Laurence Swerinham

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had figured out in the Melvin Belli letter which I

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have now just opposed to the Doctor Dante letter, and

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the reason for that is because I wanted to point

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out so many of the linguistic consistencies between these letters.

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Of course, we know that the police help me is

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something that we heard a lot.

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In the Doctor Dante letter.

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We see the hyphenation of words like difficult, which is

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spilled incorrectly. But we also have hyphenation over on the

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Doctor Dante letter, which there was actually a hyphen in there.

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But it didn't need a hyphen.

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So I take that to be a thought break, just

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like we see when Jack writes his letters, and sometimes

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we see the Zodiac letters where he uses a hyphen

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to kind of cause a pause or a thought process

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change and he begins a new thought.

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So I'm seeing that.

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Here in the Doctor Dante letter. I'm also seeing some hyphenation.

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I'd see breaking of words, probably not on this one yet.

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But another commonality here is we have guilty spelled incorrectly

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because it should be gene as guilty. But then we

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can see the rest of the entire document he actually

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spells the word guilty correctly, So again this is a

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ruse to try and calm people into believing that he

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is either not of the American language or that he

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has dumbing himself down to look like he can't spell.

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We see that in the word gremlin.

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We see it spelled correctly in one line, the very

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next line Grimlin with an I instead of an E.

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And that's of course in the melvine Belli letter, where

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he spells the word control in the first line incorrectly

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and in the second line or the next line.

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Correctly, so children are safe.

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And in the doctor Dante letter, he's stating that the

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children are not safe, but he thinks he can make

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them safe if he turns his accomplice in basically, and

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I thought that was an interesting statement, because how can

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you assure, if you're not the killer, how can you

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assure that there'll be no.

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More children harmed.

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That's one of the key points in this letter that

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makes me believe that's the suspect writing this, not an accomplice.

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Well, that that ended up coming out as everything that

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was even supposed to be done by broad that that

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was actually affects simile. That there's no envelope, there's just

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no letter. It was just typed that way. Everything's code and.

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On the envelope.

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Kathy Broad's transcription of it did say on the envelope

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was typed the most very important, most.

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Urgent please in all caps on the envelope. So there

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must have been something.

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No, that's that's how everything that was stated there. I said,

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this is all on anagram. Even when you add on

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the envelopes sideways. I've seen that another ones that I've

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done where the envelope has something sideways, so you put

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on the envelope at sideways. But this is all one.

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It's affects simile that was sent out.

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Right, Well, I want to do some type. I don't

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want to do.

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More all the more. I'm just a codebreaker, right.

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I do want to I do want to actually get

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this one type written because I think it may even

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actually show differences between I mean, obviously a word document

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is not going to be as specific in the spacing

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as a typewriter is, because the letting and currening in

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the computer is completely different from the spacing that's found

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on a typewriter, and it may actually lay out much differently.

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The differences I really actually found were in the right margin,

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so where the last letter of one sentence would end

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did not necessarily line up with the typewritten version, so

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this could help us in or you should I say,

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in code breaking as well. Another thing that I saw

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that the author did is that he would either make

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a single space after a period before he starts the

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next line, down to where he would actually not make

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any spaces, as in the word guilty period and had

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no spaces between the period and the and all the

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way to the point where we see no periods and

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then a capital begin again. And so they're making it

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look as though they can't punctuate. But on several occasions

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I actually found where he spaced two spaces period, and

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that was the proper way to write a sentence. Now

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we only do one space because we're trying to conserve

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on spacing, but back in the day, it was two

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spaces after the period to be proper punctuation and formatting.

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And since I see that actually occurring in this letter,

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all the rest I'm just going to assume at this

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point was the individual attempting to make it look like

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he did not know how to punctuate or use a typewriter,

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and that's absolutely untrue. You would have to know how

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to use one in order to manipulate the document like

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he's done.

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Well, I think it's the people that they were going after,

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the Nazis with broken English, all the stuff that the

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decoded missives were saying. So that makes to me a

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lot of sense. Those people were not fluent in English

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when they snuck in here. So a lot of references

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so to speak of what we're dealing with.

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Well, yeah, let's take one of the linguistics, or one

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of the sentences. With the linguistics, it says, I tell

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you what makes him do it? It Vietnam, So he's

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attempting to make it sound like he is English is not.

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His first language. But then below that we see where

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he uses the word.

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Gatta go ott a and b fucking f U c

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K I n These are both English slang words. So

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if you're using those correctly in the sentence, I tend

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to believe that you absolutely use English as your first language.

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I did see he states in here, like I said,

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he killed lots of little kids then with metals for it.

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He's talking about burning them to death, bombed them with napalm.

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It's real beautiful here, doc, And of course that says

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be cautiful. So that was one of the arguments with

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Terry Bee is he wanted me to read this for

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what it was worth in all of the misspellings. But

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I think that people can see that when they're looking

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at the presentation. That made me cross reference This section

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of Dennis's book where he talks about Dennis, which is

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Jack's biological son, ended his letter to his dad Jack

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with Dad, I killed sixty gooks today and you would

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love it here because hunting season is open all year round.

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So these are some really scary statements for anybody with

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a warped mind to be making a statement over there

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are a lot of Vietnam bets that suffered traumatically from

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the events that they had to perpetrate while there, So

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it's hard to believe that anybody would find this enjoyable.

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But evidently Denny and his father Jack did. Let's see,

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if there's anything else. We got the word cannot, so

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we used the word cannot. We did already talk about

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the let's see. I think in the next one is

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where I started to find where are you guys? We

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see the word afraid. So in the Belli letter he

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used the word afraid. In the Doctor Danzell letter, he

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wrote a raid instead of afraid.

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We also saw that he was using is that here

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he was using.

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The number eight instead of the apostrophe in words like didn't, couldn't, can't.

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And then we actually saw him and I want to

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see where did I find those? There was a couple

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of them in here. Oh yes, okay, So we see

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the word didn't for the first time in here that

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has the number eight in it. This is consistent with

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the Dear draft Board letters. And then I wanted to

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pull out too, out of the Dear draft Board letters.

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I am scared to see psychiatrist once more. And the

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reason I brought that out is because this letter for

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doctor Dante is being written to a psychiatrist, so he's

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literally writing to a doctor asking for assistance. But right

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aggregate writes the number eight. We see that he writes

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didn't with the apostrophe the proper apostrophe, so we know

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that he knows how to use this correctly. And again

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he has made this cross connection between the Dear draft

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Board letters and the Doctor Dante letter by using that

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number eight. Again, we have the please help me, Let's

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see cannon is broken on the Let's see cannot has

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broken on the Melvi Melvin Belly letter. So he writes

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can on one line and not on the next line,

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and then I saw here not only let's see where

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were you somebody? Let's see if I can figure out

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where that is, probably should have let's see gone bombed.

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And of course the Melvin bell I letter is also

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talking about a bomb, and we have him talking about

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bombing people in Vietnam.

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I don't see where the somebody is.

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Either way, there is a breaking of words in this

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particular communication as well, and it was the word somebody. Yeah,

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oh there it is right here. So I'd be killed

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for or do forever to jail for what? So are

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some things? So he actually splits the word with no

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hyphen using sl on one line, and he clearly has

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the enough room to write the me E T H

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I n G on the same line. He had plenty

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of room if you gauge that based off the word

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nobody about eight sentences down. It is extended far enough

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that something would have fit. And we noticed this about

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the Zodiac early on, that when he hyphenated, he either

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had the room to actually write the entire word. He

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just hyphenated for whatever reason that he felt like at

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that point.

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Well, I know what you're going to say, Harry. You're

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going to tell me that's because he was creating a code.

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Right definitely, And eighty eight ended up being like it

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was Hyle Hitler. Nazis. One of the that letter to

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me was screaming and I had just done something at

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the same time. Period is that this is about Nazis

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the people here in the United States, so we can, yeah,

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just keep going. It's just amazing how he did this.

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The last couple of things I wanted to point out

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again led me right back to the Dear draft Board letter.

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At the same time we are seeing it in the

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Melbourne Belli letter. One of those is the breaking words

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like the word myself in Dear Melvin. In the Melvin

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letter where the word my is separated from the word self,

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and we did actually see breaking of words. Let's see,

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I've got it marked and hear anymore. So in the

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Dear Danta Letter, Doctor Dante letter, we see the word

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anymore is actually split any and space more. So we're

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seeing that happen as well. We know that Allan is

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the patsy for the Zodiac crime. So interesting that the

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accomplished chose the word Alan's felt exactly like Arthur Lee Allen.

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And then do you know what I mean?

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So I thought this was an interesting statement that came

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out of the Dear draft Board letters.

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Do you know what I mean? Are you a woman?

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Then you can understand?

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I thought that was a very strange sentence that he

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felt a woman could understand.

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And I wasn't sure what to make of it.

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But when I got into the Dear Danto letter, we

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start to see again the crazy amount of hyphenation.

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We had six hyphens.

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When I was talking about that breaking, it starts to

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say it'd be to say weather bo instead of bureau.

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So he's messed with the word bureau. And we see

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in the Dear draft Board Letter that he wrote bureau crazy,

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which was again a manipulation of the word bureau. Say

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trees to bloom in three weeks. We have six hyphens

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to start you understand. Now, of course that cross reference

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of the word understand, and it's used at least three

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times in the Doctor Dante letter within three sentences, and

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the thought process of you can understand in the Dear

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draft Board Letter. Now, what I want to mention about

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the six hyphens is I want to say, it was

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the Channel nine newsletter, which we're going to get to

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here in a second also had an array of hyphens

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that we're used. Albeit handwritten, it was still either five

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or six, and we're going to verify that in a

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second here when we get to that now. The other

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part of it was the sign off on the right

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hand side of the Dear of the Doctor Dante letter,

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I signed Allen. And when we look at the draft

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board letters, it says sign question mark Comma though they've

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redacted whatever the name or whatever the individual is attempting

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to portray himself as. But in each of these three

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letters from the Dear draft Board, it is signed off

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on the right hand side, directly beneath the actual text

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of the message, and then we see signed, signed and sincerely.

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So those again are consistencies in the drafting and the

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formatting of documents, and that is one of them is

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actually done in typewritten execution. So that brings us to

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your carter letter. You just submitted this one to me

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last week. It was a list. It looks like this

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letter that has been written is to tell the people

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of the United States that if the following people are

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not released, the follow the I'm just trying to read

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the actual letter at this.

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Point, so so it's so yeah, it's it's cut up

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on purpose, that's what I found. So it says, this

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letter that has been written is to tell people of

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the United States that if the billowing people are not

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released up people follow people will be murdered. The following

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people to be released in parentheses. And then there's a

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whole bunch of redaction.

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And uh yeah, why redact the names of the people

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that they wan't released?

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What are they attempting to hide there?

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He's making a statement here, so he's redacted it, and

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then he's saying the following people to be killed if

473
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:52.880
they are not released is Jimmy Garner, uh, Walter mondale

474
00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:59.160
cybrus Vance cecil. I can't read it all, Andress, Andrew Young,

475
00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:08.079
Bob berry Land, let's see, Harold Brown, Michael Bloomin, Ta

476
00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:14.200
James Schlessinger, Charles Schultz kind of the guy who created

477
00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:22.359
the comics anyways, Jerry Brown, farrh Fawcett, Lee Majors, Jackie Kennedy,

478
00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:29.839
jack Coline Smith, Kate Jackson, Robert Blake, Henry Winkler, Lindsay Wagner,

479
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:36.000
Rakeel Welts. Let's see Ann Margaret, Angie Dickinson, Sally Fields,

480
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:44.480
Linda Carter anyways, Marie Osman anyways, Sorry, trying not to laugh,

481
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.440
Steve McQueen, Brett Reynolds, Well, Reynold, it's a lot of

482
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:53.720
this cut off Charles Bronson, Bridget Bardeux, and he scratches

483
00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:56.960
out Donnie Osmond and then he says, the people of

484
00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.720
America don't want any of the and then something dead,

485
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:04.519
then you better carry out the and can't really read

486
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:09.799
that part. All of this ended up being he's really

487
00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:10.359
out there.

488
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:18.519
He's Jerry Brown, would be pauper Brown, right like, so

489
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:24.680
we've had to actively ben governors of California, and this

490
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:27.160
would be the first Jerry Brown that he's referring to.

491
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:29.960
Correct, No, it's the seconds, it's the current governor, and

492
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:34.240
Jerry Brown's list.

493
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:40.519
Now, Robert Blake was Wasn't he actually killed Robert Blake?

494
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:47.839
No, Robert Blake, not him. I thought, I don't think

495
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:51.000
any of these were actually killed. He's just making a statement,

496
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:56.480
and it's I picked up on it very quickly, and

497
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.359
it's I think it's supposed to be a facts Emily.

498
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:00.559
You want me to read it?

499
00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:04.680
Yeah, this is actually written to the Sacramento B newspaper

500
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:07.880
editor twenty first and Q Sacramento, California. And we know

501
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:10.920
that the zodiac has in fact written to the Sacramento B.

502
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:14.559
So this falls in line, and that brings us to yourself.

503
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:16.319
So go ahead and tell us what you came up with.

504
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:20.440
I'm going to try not to laugh. It's it's apparently

505
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:25.960
effectively to Jimmy Carter. It says messages dumb ass. Georgia's

506
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:34.680
Jimmy Carter redacted, RCMP redacted, Canada redacted, cops redacted in redacted,

507
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:40.839
UC redacted, nineteen two, last kind of redacted, r N,

508
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:45.359
SFPD redacted, NAMPA redacted in scratched out. I think it's

509
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:50.440
supposed to be Nurlow. Question, where's camel Blott? President? The

510
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:57.039
classified Palmdale address that's sort of redacted. Let autopsy redacted,

511
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:02.079
Nick redacted, send me came to Ocean War a lago

512
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:07.559
on site twenty eight, nineteen seventy seven. Cannot find so

513
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:11.839
then he signs it off as Jay and that's redacted,

514
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:14.200
and you can kind of tell it, says Jack Torrance.

515
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:19.960
God, Jack, I am a lot president.

516
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:27.279
Oh, this's Kennedy. He was oh okay, Kennedy's were the camelot. Yeah,

517
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:33.920
so's he's he's working, but he's very unstable, just waiting

518
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.000
till we do the news the next one. People.

519
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:39.279
Well, and we know that he is kind of chaotic

520
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.319
at this point in time because we know that they've

521
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:44.599
moved to Texas and Nora has left Jack, so he's

522
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.440
very unstable. She's also pregnant at this time when she

523
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:50.359
leaves him, so no wonder he goes back to California

524
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:52.319
to try and find her and bring her back to Texas,

525
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:55.880
but even staying in Texas is short lived. That brings

526
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:59.960
us to the dear Channel nine newsletter that was received

527
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:01.559
fourth of nineteen seventy eight.

528
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:02.880
I'm gonna read this.

529
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:05.000
Letter and then we can cover some of the things

530
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:07.960
that we see in it. So, dear Channel nine, this

531
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:10.920
is the Zodiac speaking. You people in la are in

532
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:13.000
for a treat in the next three weeks. You are

533
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:16.160
finally gonna have something good to report. I have decided

534
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:21.000
to begin killing again. Hyphen Please hold the applause exclamation.

535
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:23.759
Nothing is going to happen until I do.

536
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:25.720
You people just won't.

537
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.960
Let me have it any other way. I plan to

538
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:31.160
kill five people in the next three weeks. Number one

539
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:35.079
Chief Piggy Darryl Gates, Number two Chief ex Chief Piggy

540
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:39.480
ed Davis. Number three Pat Boone hyphen. His theocratic crap

541
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:43.599
is an obscenity to the rest of the world. Exclamation four.

542
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:47.480
Also Eldridge Kleaver, the nigger's got to get their twenty

543
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:51.640
percent quota after all with a hyphen in there. And

544
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:55.519
Susan Atkins hyphen the Judas of the Manson family, She's

545
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.680
gonna get hers now, hey, hyphen, hyphen, hyphen. So here

546
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:02.960
is the thought break again by multiple hyphens that are

547
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:06.160
being used that are consistent. So the Channel nine newsletter

548
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:11.559
even linguistically links back to the Doctor Dante letter. You actors, hyphen,

549
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.359
this is your lucky break, Remember hyphen. Whoever plays me

550
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:17.799
has his work cut out for him.

551
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:18.960
See you in the news.

552
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:20.920
And of course we know that that was all the

553
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.400
Zodiac really cared about, was getting the story out there,

554
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:25.880
getting it told correctly, and he wanted them to stop

555
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:29.799
telling lies or playing mystery games about things.

556
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:30.920
He really wanted.

557
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.279
To be heard, and he was looking forward to playing

558
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.039
or at least assisting in movie makers making the right

559
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.720
story correct from the beginning. There's a reference giving the

560
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:44.400
media a good story, which is what he's constantly trying

561
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:44.720
to do.

562
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:45.680
Tell his story.

563
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.640
Jack returned to California just before this letter actually arrived,

564
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:52.200
the letter D. And of course this is May of

565
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.359
nineteen seventy eight, and we see that well, I think

566
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:58.160
we have some information that supports he's back shortly before

567
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:01.799
the letter D. I wanted to point out to everybody

568
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.200
this is one of those home runs where I thought, wow,

569
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:09.119
we're seeing the same disguise in letters between communications. It's

570
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.200
identical to the John Bene Ramsey letter. So Dennis is

571
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:17.319
sure that they returned January of nineteen nineteen oh, when

572
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:20.519
I'm seventy nine or seventy eight, He is sure they

573
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:23.599
returned January of nineteen seventy seventy nine. But we know

574
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:25.880
Jack usually went forward to the new state to look

575
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:28.839
for a place before moving the family out, as he

576
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.519
did with Minnesota. Jack went before they moved to find

577
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:34.599
a place to live and then brought the home there.

578
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:37.680
Nineteen seventy eight was the last letter by the Zodiac

579
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.079
that I'm aware of until nineteen eighty six. But we

580
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:42.119
have some others that are chiming in and we're going

581
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.200
to cover those today. I did actually pull out the

582
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:48.519
construction of the letter DS in the dB Cooper, in

583
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.319
the John Bene Ramsey, and in the Channel nine newsletter,

584
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:55.200
and we see that they are just absolutely similar in

585
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:59.119
shape and construction, slant everything that.

586
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.400
We would be looking for as an identification.

587
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:04.519
So even when he creates these as some type of

588
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:09.960
a attempt to conceal his handwriting or manipulate his handwriting

589
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:14.519
or disguise it, he's using that same disguise throughout the communications.

590
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:18.839
So the things that I found interesting about the Channel

591
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:22.440
nine newsletter was we have the hyphenation we've been talking about.

592
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:29.480
We have spelling errors that obviously our purposeful spelling errors,

593
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:34.000
which alludes to more sprees he's responsible for, like the Atlanta,

594
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:38.160
Georgia child killer. He claims to kill five victims in

595
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:41.759
the next three weeks, but list five victims' name, like

596
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.319
the DC phantom who claimed to list an address and

597
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:46.799
name of his next victim within ten days. So we

598
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:50.960
see a connection there. We see the words theocratic crap.

599
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:54.039
It's a very unusual phrase. I kind of compared that

600
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:56.960
to the Dear draft Board letter where he said bureau crazy.

601
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:01.799
He uses the words Niggers as a race reference. In

602
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:04.839
the finale letter, we see that he's portraying hatred for

603
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:08.119
African American like the DC Freeway Phantom Murders and the

604
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:12.360
next round of serial killers in the Atlanta, Georgia Child Killers.

605
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.199
We also seen the relation with the Zodiac in the

606
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.159
sla which again it brings us back round. He's trying

607
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:21.719
to confuse us on whether or not he's truly a racist.

608
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.639
I believe we see a reference to a movie and

609
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:26.920
who's going to play him. This is a huge theme

610
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:28.760
throughout all of these communications.

611
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:30.480
There's reference to the media.

612
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:34.280
They won't let it happen any other way, it says research,

613
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.800
you wouldn't give me a fair shake in the Black Doahlia,

614
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:41.480
so he's again making similar statements. December twenty seventh and

615
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:44.519
nineteen seventy four was the last communication from the Zodiac

616
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:48.039
Killer while all the chaos was happening in Michigan and Minnesota.

617
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:51.480
This may be in response to a documentary a movie

618
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:53.800
that is being made. We see reference to who will

619
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:56.639
play him and they having their work cut out for them.

620
00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:59.519
And the other letters or references to movies and books

621
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:02.760
that he knows others are producing like John Walsh, Tom Voyd,

622
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:05.960
Robert gray Smith, and Michael Tracy. The list of the

623
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.119
victims we kind of covered. Who's an Atkins was actually

624
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:12.239
the Judas of the Manson family. I thought that was

625
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:15.039
an interesting statement because we do have some playback with

626
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:18.280
the Manson family inside of these whether it relates to

627
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:22.440
scientology or the family or whomever. These individuals are attempting

628
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:25.679
to control. They were literally not doing these things on

629
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:28.400
their own, just like I suspect the Zodiac killer wasn't.

630
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:32.280
He's being instructed, and Harriet believes that he's not getting paid,

631
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:35.280
which is why he is making.

632
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:39.000
All this busy work. Let's see, this letter.

633
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:43.039
Is defend he's not getting paid, then he's going crazy

634
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:44.639
and things are happening.

635
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:48.760
She's right, So this letter is giving the impression that

636
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:52.159
Jack is in California before he begins his next spree.

637
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:54.760
The last letter from the Zodiac from five eight seventy

638
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.679
eight too, May or March of nineteen eighty six. But

639
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:00.840
again I found some additional letters going to cover those

640
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.280
as well, and that brings us to your soul on

641
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:04.519
the Channel nine newsletter.

642
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:09.239
Yeah, it was stend the graphic code and I found

643
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:12.840
a heart and other things in there. I found a

644
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.239
lot of x's or things to scratch stuff out, so

645
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:18.920
I'll read it. But before warned people he's off the

646
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:24.960
hook here, so I'll read the what I have. It's

647
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:28.559
in the America's Most Evil the Big Book. Anyways, it's

648
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:32.239
Sam to moor a Lago Hi Martin, Luther King and

649
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:35.440
nigger hating, fucking son of a bitch, Commander in Chief,

650
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:42.280
Jimmy Carter, where's basebolt gear? Triple X movie ax Heart

651
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:46.519
that's for s liquor. John Edward Walls Junior, he sent

652
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:52.960
the laying slash. George Lucas my District of Columbia data

653
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.639
and Operation Midnight Climax Nixon on time as Zodiac the

654
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:02.679
zodiac symbol. Lee Bowers Junior in disguise, h Donald Lass

655
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:07.679
in disguise, hits in the same JFK Autopsy on films,

656
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:12.079
hid Kill g and Conna Earnings. He's screaming earnings. Where's

657
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:15.960
my earnings? I got nothing? Eat a dick, so eat

658
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:26.639
it shit. This is the zukiak speaking. That's so.

659
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.599
Now I see a secondary so here that says mt.

660
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:33.519
Motus tolans kkk oh okay. So that that kkk there

661
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:34.119
is another one.

662
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:38.719
There's another salt for the envelope. There's another there's two

663
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:41.679
salts for the envelope. So you know he's definitely off

664
00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:42.079
the hook.

665
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:46.360
Do you have that second? Sure?

666
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:52.199
Well, let's just go with it. Come on, now, okay,

667
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:57.920
this is this is the envelope. Uh, the first sault.

668
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:00.400
But he twitted something around and he says he actually

669
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:03.960
got something else. Anyways, as modus tolans as means this

670
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.519
is something you can expect. Would you have to go

671
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:08.920
back and take a look to see what's missing to

672
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:14.239
get more stuff in it? Anyways? KKK Carter five two,

673
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:17.360
nineteen seventy eight. I came to mar A Lago five

674
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:22.800
twenty eight seventy seven, eleven hundred South Ocean. And then

675
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:29.920
he's saying, oh, which means honor about Boulevard three three

676
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.239
four eight zero. That is the zip GO for mar

677
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:38.039
A Lago, asking please, where's medical photographer Marjorie let pictures

678
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:45.199
JK for Kennedy eleven twenty second, sixty three, Palmdale, California.

679
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:50.400
Found in PA system mail Nixon Admin under laying Earthwise

680
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:55.239
stamp issue date May fifth, nineteen sixty nine. Printed by

681
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:59.320
Bureau of Printing and engraving method you urry press perforations

682
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:06.360
live in then Anyway City, Houston, Valentine, stickers, Nada. I

683
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:10.800
came to value Kim a lot white House, fucker you

684
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:16.239
doom as acoustick manned Bubba I Oprah documents in order

685
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:18.480
JT in California.

686
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:20.079
Wow.

687
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:25.880
So yeah, there's another there's another salt. This is the

688
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:32.079
modust Tolan solf that I do it okay, And I

689
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:33.000
wanted to ask you.

690
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:35.800
One thing really quick, and I think, where did I

691
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:36.199
just see?

692
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:36.400
Oh?

693
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:38.199
You were talking about the moon Rise stamp.

694
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:41.639
I actually had the opportunity to do an examination to

695
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:45.679
verify that they were legitimate, authentic wedding signatures by the

696
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:49.599
astronauts for the Apollo missions, starting with Apollo two, working

697
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:51.920
its way all the way through Apollo seventeen, there was

698
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:56.599
approximately I want to say, seven Apollo patches. They surround

699
00:39:56.679 --> 00:40:01.039
a man's name who was responsible for handling their safety,

700
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:05.880
their gear, their suits, making sure everything works properly for him.

701
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.840
At the end of each mission, they would apply a

702
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:12.639
patch to this particular artwork and then have the astronauts

703
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:13.400
sign around it.

704
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:14.840
So I actually I.

705
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:18.920
Was able to examine buzz Aldron's signature and I thought

706
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:20.679
that was interesting, and I told the guy that the

707
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.800
Apollo missions for whatever reason, meant something to the zodiac

708
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:26.159
because we see him use an Apollo stamp at some

709
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:26.920
point in time.

710
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:29.320
Very interesting.

711
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:30.880
So you said, there's another salve to this.

712
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:34.199
Yeah, and I'm going to read it, because some of

713
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:38.400
it is I redected it myself, but I'll still read it.

714
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:42.000
It's KKK Carter. I came to mar A Lago five

715
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:47.719
twenty eight seventy seven, asking where's medical photographer Marjorie Let

716
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:53.079
eleven twenty second sixty three JSK Camlott, California. Autoxy pictures

717
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:57.840
from Joplin, PA system mailed nineteen seventy to Nixon Administration

718
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:03.639
under laying EARTHWASE stamp issued date five, nineteen sixty nine,

719
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:07.199
printed by Bureau of Printing and Engraving Printing met the

720
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:14.119
Geori Press Preparations eleven City, Houston, Valentine stickers, May second,

721
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:19.400
nineteen seventy eight. I come to eleven hundred South Ocean Boulevard,

722
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:24.000
Palm Beach, Florida, three three four eight zero am after

723
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:27.639
midnight am I now found and he's saying he found

724
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:33.800
his toy, the Eisenhower Eagle that was used in dB Cooper.

725
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:37.519
That was also having something to do with the autopsy pictures.

726
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:41.920
Then he's signing off as oh U evil meathead dom

727
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:47.360
as a cut Bubba JT.

728
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:50.400
So that was actually the Palm Lope, and that was

729
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.679
the May fourth, nineteen seventy eight, Atlanta, Georgia child killer

730
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:56.599
end the lope right where it said CIA backwards.

731
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:01.039
So he's the one in the letters, Yeah backwards. No,

732
00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:02.440
that's the Channel nine.

733
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:07.920
Yes, yeah, we're still on the Channel nine. Yeah, we're

734
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:08.920
still on the Channel nine.

735
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:16.079
I guess that's a side kind of a statement where he's, uh, yeah,

736
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:19.719
anyways where he's he's feeling quite backwards and mixed up,

737
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:22.400
but he's still trying to work and he's not getting

738
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.239
paid for twenty five years of being an MK ultra

739
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:29.920
and all that other stuff, so so he's stable, you know, unstable.

740
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:32.880
These are funny, right in.

741
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:37.000
The return address is is the letters that are actually transposed.

742
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:37.960
They're backwards.

743
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.519
So the CIA, I mean obviously the I, N the

744
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:42.880
A does not have the appearance of being backwards, but

745
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:45.960
the C is flipped in rotation, and then the numbers

746
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:49.159
going seven, six, five, four, three, two one are.

747
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:50.480
All turned backwards.

748
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.440
And then what are those letters that are beneath that

749
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:56.639
A E. C. G. T. H.

750
00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:57.440
Is that what I say?

751
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:01.440
Yeah, that's Beatle song. That's yeah, that's from the Beatles

752
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:05.079
song and it says all good children go to heaven.

753
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:08.719
The song title is you Never give me your money song.

754
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:12.440
Suddenly he's going to say, you only give me your

755
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:16.079
funny paper. And in the middle of negotiations you break

756
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:20.719
down and then this thing out of college money spent,

757
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:24.280
see no future, pay, no print, All the money's gone,

758
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.679
nowhere to go. Any jobber got the sack. These are

759
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:31.719
the lyrics Jack is saying. Wow, He's like.

760
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:36.800
All good children go down never So, So, if this

761
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:39.599
is the nineteen seventy eight letter, do you know where

762
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:42.719
it's mailed from?

763
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:48.599
Actually I think I had it. Oh my god, I think.

764
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:49.440
I see an a up there.

765
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.519
But I'm not sure what that postmark or the post

766
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:58.000
postage st or I'm sorry postmark cancelation mark says it

767
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:01.199
is using. So we do have it listed wrong. I

768
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:04.239
have listed incorrectly. Then it's not the envelope to the Atlanta,

769
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:06.639
Georgia child killer. I need to make that correction so

770
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:10.239
that that states the Channel nine newsletter. But one of

771
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:11.800
the things I wanted to point out is when we

772
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:14.559
look at the actual writing that's on this, including the

773
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:17.159
nine that's used, is very similar to the g's that

774
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:19.599
are used in what they purported to be the fake

775
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:24.239
Zodiac letter. In regards to IRB. Kane, that g is

776
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:25.400
pretty much identical.

777
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:27.159
And I just caught that and saw that. But we

778
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:28.639
can go back and look at those later.

779
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.039
Either way we see the zodiac symbol on the backside

780
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:35.000
of it, and we see the postage stamp that is

781
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.800
actually being used. We're going to see these four stamps

782
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:41.320
right here going to be crossovers in the crimes that

783
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:44.559
are perpetrated in the Atlanta, Georgia child killer, and stamps

784
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:46.840
are big to the zodiac, as we can tell through

785
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:47.840
Harriet Solves.

786
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:49.920
Let's see.

787
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:57.519
On comparison of the Avenger Zodiac handwriting despite disguised handwriting,

788
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:00.280
note similarity to the small letter G as it is

789
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:06.000
used in the Channel nine newsletter and then opposed to

790
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.920
the black Dahlia was where this individual had pointed it out.

791
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:12.480
So I'm glad, even on a layman's level, we have

792
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:16.119
people that are making matches and comparisons in this both

793
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:20.719
Avenger and Zodiac frequently and deliberately misspelled simple words. In

794
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:24.079
his nineteen forty seven first mailing below, Avengers spells correctly.

795
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:28.039
Then in the second deliberate lease misspells Los Angeles as

796
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:30.880
Los Angels, and I think that was kind of a

797
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:35.199
reference to the city right back in the day, Los Angels.

798
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:40.079
Yeah, I think so, because the one I just just

799
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:43.480
worked on, the one that we haven't come up to

800
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:48.000
that one yet. There's a different San Francisco chronicle with

801
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:55.800
the Los Angeles. It's so yeah, he's this is what

802
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:59.239
we just read in the Channel nine letter is just

803
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:02.000
like lenth d after the one that's coming up that

804
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:05.559
you had the Bardo. It's called the Bardo request Joy

805
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:07.320
thank you Rich.

806
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:10.920
Yes, yes, all right, well let's see if we can

807
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:11.360
get to that.

808
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:14.679
So we've already covered the best of my ability.

809
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.039
MLK and hating Tomorro a Lago. Yeah. I think we

810
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:21.880
already read that song correct Eata Dick.

811
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.960
So yeah, yeah, yeah, all.

812
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:26.039
Right, he's being about.

813
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:32.400
Well. In between that letter and the next letter, we

814
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:36.480
actually had another unsolved case Karen Petty and her sons

815
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:40.039
Mark five and Scott seven in the North Houston area.

816
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:42.480
Again, we are noting that Jack.

817
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.119
Is still in Texas at this point, but he is

818
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:48.239
looking to move back to California. By January of nineteen

819
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:51.320
seventy nine, they are found in the baptubs. Karen is

820
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:53.719
found with foe corn and strangled with it. The boys

821
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:57.119
are strangled and drowned, but Mark was also beaten. Nineteen

822
00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.880
seventy eight, there was a nineteen seventy eight mercury Myke.

823
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:01.039
He was found to be.

824
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:03.719
Missing and found in an apartment at one ninety eight.

825
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:07.920
Goodson Drive husband was Robert Petty. I don't really have

826
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.000
any information on him. I couldn't find anything.

827
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:11.760
Have you have you.

828
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:14.599
Heard or seen anything in the solves and regards to

829
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:17.280
Karen Petty or her two sons?

830
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:23.400
What is the what is the first name again? Karens Karen.

831
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:27.840
Ka and I'm sorry, Kareny.

832
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:32.400
I call it Karen Pretty and Robert Pretty are the parents.

833
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.000
But Karen Pritty and the two.

834
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:37.559
Sons were found dead in Texas, while we have Jack

835
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:40.159
over in Texas. So it's North Houston and we know

836
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:44.079
that's the general vicinity area for Jack at the time.

837
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:49.800
It is similar to the death. Okay, so that was new.

838
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:51.880
It was something I threw in here just because Jack

839
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:54.000
happened to be in Texas at the time it happened,

840
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:57.639
It says, similar to the deaths in Minnesota and possibly

841
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.000
in Michigan where the suspect went straight into the house.

842
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:02.960
Else water and bathtub is being used. We see that

843
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:06.000
in the Lipstick California and other murders. It's one hundred

844
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.960
and sixty two miles approximately two hours and thirty one

845
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:12.360
minutes on average timeframe for Texas murders, and consistent with

846
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.280
other murders like the Ketty Cabin murders where it's the

847
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.599
entire family, mother and children taken out. Oh, Robert Crane,

848
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:23.199
So I think that's who I was probably alluding to

849
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:25.840
when we were discussing earlier. We've got less than a minute,

850
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:28.679
so I don't think I check into Robert Crane. How

851
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:31.360
do you feel about this one in Scottsdale on Arizona?

852
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:33.320
What was that?

853
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:36.920
I said? How do you feel about buzz particular.

854
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:39.039
Crime, the Bob Crane.

855
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:43.000
Yes, no, Bob Crane.

856
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:46.239
There's so much going on with Bob Crane. I've heard

857
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:50.360
a lot about the possibility for things that was going

858
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:52.440
on with him, and he was taken out.

859
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:57.440
So yeah, yeah, he was definitely taken out.

860
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:01.079
I don't see Jack going after him. But there was

861
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:04.400
a reason why he died, right, and.

862
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:06.079
We're going to talk about that here shortly.

863
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:08.159
Well, next week we'll catch up on this and we'll

864
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:11.039
do the friction tape and we'll move on from there. Harriet,

865
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:12.760
stay with me after we get off of this, so

866
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:14.760
don't hang up. Once I get back with one. I

867
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:16.920
want to set up a pre record for the day

868
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:18.840
after Thanksgiving, so everybody.

869
00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:19.800
Has some new content.

870
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:24.000
Well, they're sitting at home and recovering from their food comas.

871
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:26.079
Everybody have a wonderful weekend.

872
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:44.119
You've come Next Friday, take care, Happy Day.