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True seekers and true crime junkies.
Welcome back to another episode of Hit the

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Roadjack Finding the Zodiac. To be
picking up where we left off from last

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week. We have a couple of
letters and some more solves that we're going

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to be discussing. I'm going to
start. We do have Harriet Souchet here

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today and i'd like to bring her
on to the show. Good morning,

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how are you doing that? I
had this in my pocket. It's kind

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of it's extra warm now. So
we we were talking last week obviously in

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regards to my name is solve and
envelope and letter that you had done,

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and then I had had somebody who
actually reached out to me and mentioned we

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were trying to figure out what Poe
was about. Before we get into that,

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I'm going to also welcome onto the
show, Terry Batcher. Good morning,

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Terry. How are you doing very
well? Good? So I had

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sent over I had received an email
again from that person we all love to

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talk about, and they had indicated
that they believe somebody else had stumbled on

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to the fact that there was a
possibility that the Zodiac derived his ciphers and

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codes from the Edgar Allan Poe the
Goldbug. Has anybody heard of that?

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I've never heard that before, but
it wouldn't surprise me. Oh, I

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know, right. I had to
quickly go back because I heard about the

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Poe aspects over the years, you
know, the overtones. So I looked

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up Edgar Allan Poe and he was
if I got it correctly, he was

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an editor of a publication as well
as the author, but he was a

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crypto analyst. He knew about codes, so people would send codes to him

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as the editor. And we're talking
about the I think the early to mid

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nineteenth century, so we're talking about
somebody with some who knew and who knew

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how to break them and create them. So that's you know, it's going

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back to the skull and bones.
H really really is Edgar Allan Poe part

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of that or is that just a
time frame. I'm having a feeling that

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he is because of the macabre,
the skull and bones and and Poe writing

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about you know, schools and ravens
and you know whatever. So it's just

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a theory now, you know.
But it's a strong, workable theory.

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Now. So in your let me
see if I can figure out where I

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saw that in yours? In your
solve here, let's see what did you

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have to say about Poe? Where
was he He's he's saying something in both

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times he's saying he's mentioning Poe.
But if you see the the scan or

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the whatever it is now, it's
got editor editor on it, an upside

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down editor on the envelope and a
regular editor. So it's like the he's

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talking to two editors, Randolph Hurst
and then the the lesser known. But

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still very wow when you look him
up. Charles de young Threau, I

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come up with C I a p
D files. So why is that?

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Because I want to know more about
who I'm you know, seeing in what

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is coming in you know this through
Jack's world, So you know, very

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interesting there, So I got I
gather Jack had a nickname for him as

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Poe. Huh, Well, that
would make some sense. And of course

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there's a million there's a million rabbit
holes that we can go down in regards

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to where he derives his codes from. I mean, he books movies,

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uh, songs like Terry Is.
You know, some of these songs have

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literally been made after these events or
about these events. So there's a lot

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of places that he could derive that. All right, So I'm gonna pop

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up the present day. Oh one
more thing, if anybody has the opportunity

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to check out, I just found
a new movie called The Killer on Netflix.

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I was absolutely floored. You have
to be talking to the very person

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who who was or is the killer
in order to have compiled the information that

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is put into this movie. But
I about fell out when he said he

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hadn't had a nice, silent drowning
in a very long time. This literally

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you walk through the footsteps of the
thoughts in the mindset and the things that

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a killer like Jack or the Zodiac
would have to go through and do in

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order to have his his his position
or his job. He starts at first

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with if you get bored easy,
this job isn't for you because there's a

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lot of sitting around for the target, waiting for the target, looking for

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the target, finding the right time
to kill that target. Either way,

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what's that I'm gonna say? Is
it a recent movie. Yes, it

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just came out on Netflix. I
was scrubbing and cleaning and organizing my office

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all weekend. I had some new
filing cabinets put in. So unfortunately I

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did not get to sit down and
watch it with the intensity that I would

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like to. So I'm going to
go back and revisit the movie where I

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can sit down from beginning to end
and take some notes on it. But

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he talks about poisonings, he talks
about shootings, he talks about stranglings,

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he talks I mean, he literally
is going through all of the methods,

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and he basically says, if you
can't afford me, don't even talk to

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me, and don't even try to
get me on the side of goodwill or

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doing justice, because he basically is
there to be paid to be a killer.

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That's it, That's all he wants
to do. All right. So

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we were speaking about the Kathleen John's
letter last week, and this is the

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letter in regards to the zodiac having
picked up Kathleen John's and her baby and

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taken her for a couple hour ride. She was able to escape at one

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point with her child, and then
the Zodiac ultimately burnt her car because he

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was obviously upset that he had lost
obviously his victim. I also thought to

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myself at the same time you were
talking about this child ring in one of

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the salves Harriet's it has to put
lightning a man. The other lesser known

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Charles Manson. You know, it
was the same coming of Jesus and making

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white babies for couples who were really
desperate to have white children, and selling

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them. It made me wonder whether
or not the attempt was to abscond with

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Kathleen John's baby. You know,
I'm seeing I'm seeing it through. Once

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I decoded this, and I said, wow, I know a lot about

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lightning, Amen, now, because
I've done all the Texas I forty five

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killer cases and heard a lot about
lightning. Amen. The Klaus's baby,

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Holly, You'll see stuff about that
in the future solves and not too far

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from this one. But anyways,
apparently, according to Jack's World, John

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McCain like the third because he's from
a very wealthy family quietly got together with

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sister Susan, who is Susan Weed, who is Stephen Weed's a future Patty

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Hirst's boyfriend, got together to make
a baby, a white baby. It

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sounds, it sounds a little rotten, but it looks like, you know,

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because he was he wasn't the pow
at that moment. If I got

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this correctly, and then soon becomes
a pow and then we got a mess.

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It's a Vietnam war. Nixon's in
office, John McCain, the father,

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is the head of the freaking navy. So it looks like they did

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things to keep something quiet. You
know. That's another thing that was brought

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up by that movie The Killer was
the fact that he mentioned that sometimes some

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of his jobs were evidently to put
pressure on high political figures and people.

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And so we've been talking a lot
about that in this particular series of events,

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all the way back to the Lipstick
killings, where they're killing children of

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high influential people and politicians and things
like that, and that is definitely to

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put the pressure on them. They
are going to kill the family instead of

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them because they realize that they can't
go around taking out all of these political

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people because some but he's going to
be trying to figure or solve that crime,

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and that brings too much attention.
So things that look like random accidents

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that might take the child of a
politician, say like the Winovich whose daughter

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was killed by a van while he
was running for his office, is kind

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of the things that came to mind
when he said that some of the kills

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were literally just meant to put pressure
on the right people. So you guys

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have to watch this movie. It's
absolutely I think that once I sit down

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and take all the notes, I'll
have a whole lot to say in regards

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to it. But you know,
in your opinion on that movie, is

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this another take a cue from the
world of Jack and just remove yes and

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put some scenarios relabel it. There
are so many movies that could be attributed

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to Jack's MK Ultra World nineteen forties. Still I've seen that. I can't

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I agree, I've seen that,
but I can't cite them at the moment.

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But I know exactly like Dirty Harry
right very heart, Yeah, I

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know that I've heard several movies from
you, Terry, where you've intimated the

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fact that, yes, these were
things that were revolving around or were descriptions

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of what Jack was up to,
what was going on in the Zodiac era,

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and obviously many different crimes freeze at
the same time, Sola, one

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little thing I want to get off, a little point off my chest,

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and so we bear this in mind
as we go through all this stuff.

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When I've got this recent document I
sent you about this doctor Olson that was

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kind of hidden by the Oakland County
toop prosecutor in that case, Olon County

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case that was only for the first
three victims that this doctor had said that

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this this killer was very unique and
the fact that he stopped and he was

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handling the bodies as much as he
was was very unique to him. That's

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not the average serial killer. It's
not you know, it's very very uncommon.

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It's extremely uncommon. And so it's
a signature item in another word.

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So and then to handle them as
long as he did too, nineteen days

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for the last one right before Kim
Kingham held her for nineteen days alive for

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nineteen days in EA environment too,
So he had to have had help too,

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well, there was a yeah,
and of course, you know,

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considering the fact that he also properly
positioned and laid these bodies out within distances

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of the police department and in very
public ways in order to send the message

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that they were looking to send.
I think also couples that I don't mean

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to take the subject off track,
but I'm just saying that's one thing I

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wanted to interject before I forget,
you know, and make a point about

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that. There's another characteristic that came
up. They thought, well, this

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guy's got to be a knete freak, and in fact, the sightings they

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actually had of him in the Oakland
County area showed he was kind of dressed

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like a dirtball and that he wasn't
really all that tighty or the stidy is

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about his own personal appearance. Well, if we went off of the letter,

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and I know we're not there yet, but the accomplice letter states that

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he brings them up in laundry bags. That to me is definitely a signal.

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Because we have Jack freshly coming out
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he was working for South Lake Tahoe
Linen, and of course he had supposedly

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an injury while he was there,
but I kind of tend to believe that

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he got injured jumping out of the
dB Cooper and then seventy two he's filing

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a he's filing a claim. We're
comp claim against South Lake Tahoe. And

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so to hear about the laundry bags
really just kinds to put into perspective,

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because we also had Moonlight state that
she had found remains that she believed were

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Donna Lass's, and those remains were
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there is a yes, there is
a method that is running there. So

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when we left off last week,
we were talking about yourself, Harriet on

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the kaptain John's letter, and I've
got it up here nice and bold if

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you want to read that over for
us so that we can start and take

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off from here. I believe this
is the envelope for the letter, which

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says amazing details. He's trying to
stay focused, but anyways, it says

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Examiner President Randolph Hurst, care of
the San Francisco Chronicle, Io documents in

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order, Navy McCain's son, and
then he's saying, like remember be cut

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outs Defense Department, nineteen sixty nine. McCain John and sisters, Susan boyfriend

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that Susan wee sister Susan of Lightning
Amen anyways, which is Kathleen Wead anyways,

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Lightning Amen and Louis Beam Commission one
pretty infant adoption for two people in

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Tracy, California, twenty second,
nineteen seventy. I Jack, okay,

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so let me stop you. Let
me stop you right there at that particular

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part the Lewis Bean Commission one pretty
infant adoption for two people in Tracy,

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California. I want everybody to understand
that the Kathleen John's letter where she's getting

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this information from, was an actual
abduction in the Modesto area. Correct.

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Well, he's I think he's alluding
to that it wasn't exactly an abduction,

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but was taking partner. No,
no, no, no not. This

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is not his particular instance. What
I'm saying is is that it is saying

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two people in Tracy, California on
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that three twenty two, was that
not the date that Kathleen John's was abducted.

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Yeah, that's the story of the
abduction, Okay. And so also

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the Tracy, California part is right
next door to Modesto in Stockton, and

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all of that stuff, so same
area. So interesting that the envelope from

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the Kathleen John's letter is yielding information
that is consistent with the area and the

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timeframe of that abduction of Kathleen John's
all right, go back, go on

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with Ijack. Well, then see
he's not. He's having a hard time

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concentrating his nineteen seventy four he's having
flashbacks. I Jack to get even for

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army spy Jesse James Coon died on
April twenty third, nineteen sixty eight.

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Randolph return receipt request at Frank Olsen, sorry for printing CIA New York for

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one one and San Francisco for one
one. Senator Prescott Bush era as and

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then he's saying, can't stop us, Frank, I pause, Ira Gottlieb

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LSD, Dwight Eisenhower, SALDI execute
order CIRCA nine one one dash one destroy

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paper. And then he's saying,
that's three billion, sixty six, eight

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hundred and ninety nine million that's in
the stamp identification anyways, files going to

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crash United Airlines Flight one seventy five, American Flight eleven twin towers, Randolph

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you IR ninety nine. It's will
be used for medium ninety nine. It's

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the reverse of sixty sixty six the
evil order? Anyways, where's the reverse

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evil order? Remedy? Tarance?
The envelope and I didn't really have to

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put much words in there. It
was there in anagramming everything identifiable on the

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envelopes or just envelope right here.
Unbelievable. I'm gonna ask a stupid question

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because I don't know this, but
is the airlines that actually flew into the

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twin Towers Flight one seventy five,
United Airlines Flight eleven the American? Is?

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I believe they were? Yeah,
yes, and get this, they'll

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say it really quick. The United
Airlines, American Airlines. When I seen

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this surfacing again for like for me, the million times I had to really

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make sure was American Airlines and United
started many decades ago, yes, nineteen

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twenty six for both of them.
So according to Jack's world, this was

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well planned decades in advance. Unbelievable, but through stuff I'm seeing it again,

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I can only say the only the
only real way. As as Helms

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realized after attempting to have all of
the mk ulture documents destroyed and thirty thousand

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of those documents popping up out of
nowhere. The only way the CIA could

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ensure that all information and anything they
had ever done could be destroyed would be

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to take down the entire building,
the computers, the paperwork, everything to

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this story, to the point that
somebody could not get their hands on another

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piece of it. And that's what
we saw happen with Tower number seven.

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Yes, all right, Oh sorry, go ahead, I was gonna say,

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you want me to read this one
because this is yes, really,

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let me let me introduce it real
quick. Okay, So now we're moving

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on to the actual Kathleen John's letter. And and the letter, again,

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it didn't give us any information we
didn't already know. It had been well

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produced in the news already, that
she had been abducted, that she had

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identified the Zodiac killer, that her
car had been burnt. All of these

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things had already been said and in
the news, which made makes me feel

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like there's a redundancy with that communication
coming out. So there must be another

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meaning. And Harriet has actually had
a solve on that particular And this one

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was stenographic as well, right,
this was actually just an anti in the

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letter. Oh, I need to
change that. Basically an hour I think

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I did an anagramming, I said, what hell, this stem from Nanette

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sent me the King Nixon postcards.
So then I said, well, okay,

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I'm realizing a lot of things that
are in what I found. There

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were going back to what's supposed to
be nineteen seventy that are appearing to be

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nineteen seventy four. So anyways,
I anagrammed this and it brings up about

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the green grocer. That's Joe Carcioni. Oh, hold on, who's Joe

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Carcioni. He's a green grocer,
but he was famous. He was constantly

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on local TV. But he was
also, I understand, a great patriot,

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a World War Two veteran, and
it looks like he was since he

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was working through Oh he had newspaper
columns also, so it looks a couple

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of times his crew were working through
him or with him. All right,

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So I want to pause you right
there, because when I saw that,

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I jumped immediately back to John Fazio. He also World War two veteran,

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also a major player in the media, the news, the grocery world.

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And we have a solve by you
and swearing that actually lists the name John

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Fazio. So I'm starting to feel
like and your last solf talked about Ohio

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and we have this green grocer in
Ohio like all of it. So are

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you sure that green grocer has to
do with this other guy that you're talking

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about versus John Fazzio. No,
no, it wouldn't be. I wouldn't

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say it's John Fazzio. But he's
if you see his face on old you

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know, older TV commercials and things
in local area. He was very well

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known and he was nicknamed the green
Grocer. So okay, so you'll think,

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So it sounds to me like the
mobs well in on the grocery stores

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and all the little stop and shop
and the convenience stores and all of that

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stuff. So there could be something
or a group or even maybe a society

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of these individuals hate the same.
But it took the mobsters to get rid

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of the bad mobster Sam g and
Kanna. So there was a lot of

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things going on. They said,
we make mobsters, but a lot of

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them were Catholic, and we're not. They may not like the Kennedys,

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but they were not too keen on
Catholic skilling other Catholics. So you had

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mobsters, the good monsters working to
get rid of the bad mobsters as Bazars

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as him. No, that is
not bizarre at all. It's not okay,

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So go ahead and read that that
song this is I was hitting my

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head when I read that. I
said, this is just a simple yntagram.

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Okay. It says green grocer Kathleen
Weed aka sister Susan seven month feetus

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pregnant was driving in eve us.
What we sent in sack be cutouts d

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D. That's Department of Defense to
white House, the enemy territory prisoner of

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was is the father and the couple
commissioned her baby with San Bernardino Hippie Lightning

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amen an Imperial Wizard of the KKK. Anyways, it just as Imperial Wizard

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loose beam an Arian Brotherhood, Pedaluma
adoption facility terrence. So we are seeing

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some sort of child trafficking ring.
Would you call it then? Yes?

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And no It sounds horrible, But
there were people that were desperate for adopting

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children and wanted the perfect white baby. So they were going through people like

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this. They made sure that they
had a lineage that can go back,

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that could be traceable. But I
would zoom safely that these were uh sealed

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adoptions, you know, but the
babies were worth money. If you had

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somebody that had some department of the
pensilinks and political links, you know,

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that would that baby would be worth
money, and there were people willing to

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pay for maybe you know this absolutely. So I'm interested in the fact that

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obviously, while this letter is about
Kathleen John's, it does not actually mention

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The true letter itself does not mention
Kathleen's name. However, in your soul

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you come up with the name Kathleen, which is highly relatable to the abduction

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of Kathleen John's. Again, another
one of those possible confirmations that you're onto

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something with m right. So I
just wanted to state really quickly over the

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years, I really tried so Dennis
when I when he got to know him

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better, he said that there was
really no information on where did Kathleen John's

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a famous abductee, where did she
go to school, who's her parents,

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where she buried? There was really
nothing out there. And that's when Dennis

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was saying, when they were about
to interview her, and she was telling

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Dennis through the context she's ready to
tell everything. And then she dies mysteriously

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of a heart attack the night before
they were supposed to interview her. I'm

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ready to tell I want to tell
it all. Well, the crazier thing

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is is that there's no way for
us to confirm she actually died from a

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heart attack exactly. They may have
put Dennis through all of these steps only

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to just want to stifle the introduction
or meeting and just said that she died

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of a heart attack. So who's
to know if she really even passed away.

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I don't even know where did she
I where's the hospital county supposedly in

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Sonoma County. I suppose that's a
quick trip for me to go to the

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clerk's office and look up the death
record and see what there is on it.

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There is a Kathleen Weed, by
the way, I really yeah,

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Stephen Weed seems to have a well
anyways, we don't want to go too

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far into that. That's a rabbit
hole in itself. But I when I'm

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seeing these named surface and seeing all
these connections, I stop what I'm doing

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and I quickly search, use my
phone, go to the library, whatever,

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because I want to just make sure
I'm on that footing. So it

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is a Kathleen Weed out there.
Well, John must have been specifically targeted,

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and that's the connection. You also
want to figure out how get onto

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her, Why was she targeted exactly? I think the play on words is

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she's John's Kathleen. You know you
have three John McCain's. They're all,

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you know, the father, the
grandfather, the whatever. So three confirmations,

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many Johns Kathleen. Okay, well, and I've asked many times forsake,

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maybe just for namesake? Then okay, well, and we did see

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some flip flopping and name matching in
some of the crime spreezes we get into

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some of those later ones, we'll
start to see those names swapping, swappings

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or matchings, or almost as if
they were identifying targeting individuals with those names

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on purpose, which brings to light
again, like you said, Terry,

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that many of much of this is
all done with a high amount of intel

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inside knowledge. So these are not
random murders by any means. No,

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there's there's you can see it even
in the OL jumped to that because I've

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been setting it lately. But they
think that the first three victims or like

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random, I say that they aren't. If you start getting into the details

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of certain things about the victims of
victimology, like the little girl that got

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shot on the top of the head, that the little Robinson girl, well

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she was said to have been afraid
of being shot in the head. Well,

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how did the killer get this inside
knowledge because he took a big risk

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of shooting her at four in the
morning, you know, when he's only

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car around and things like that.
So and those instances come up. Were

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these people were definitely targeted, each
one of them and carefully and concisely and

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all that. Well, and here's
a good question, because if these children

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were being held for any certain amount
of time, they could have been befriended

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by their captor and that question could
have been asked of them, what would

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be the worst way for you to
die? Or that's a very good point.

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But there were other little telltale signs
that and I can't bring them up

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because it's been so long ago since
I studied. I'm going that's the connection

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I was looking for anyway, and
I got some conform of that. So

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I really think that, like,
for example, the last one being held

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for nineteen days, their target was
Tim King, and that's clear to me.

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And they then they nailed him,
you know, they got Tim King,

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and you know, caught him off
guard. He was hard to nap

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because they by that time, they
were you know, they're all in their

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guard. But he let his guard
doll one time, and I think he

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got drawn into it. We'll talk
about that later, but I think in

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all the files that you've seen,
has had there been any request for ransom,

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any information that would suggest that he
was being strong armed before the minor

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not in that instance. Now.
The only thing is with the Ramsey case,

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the fake ransom ransom demand because because
she was already dead. Well,

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but we had the Lipstick killing case, which also had a fake ransom note

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where the child had already been bisected
and deposited in storm drains on his way

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out of town to the train tracks. So that's what I'm meaning is I'm

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just wondering if that was the information
with Hell, that these individuals might likely

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have been ransomed for something that was
ultimately going to result in the child's death.

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Anyways, Anyways, I think the
three of us can agree that these

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uh how and I lost my train
of thought on that, but it was

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right on the tail of what you
were talking about. But it's to say

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the three of us agree with something, and I want to think about what

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it is again, I'll tell you
so I won't stop you out, but

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we're going to get there in Yeah, I'm not to cert writing notes down

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and go look at my notes.
But it was something that three of us

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could agree on that and I had
to do with what you were just saying.

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So we'll come back to that,
and we got six years. We

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got six years in my chronological order
for you to remember that. That brings

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us to one of our first poem
references that we see by the Zodiac,

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and it has to do with the
Mercano, which is a Japanese opera that

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was for the World War II troops
for entertainment at the end of World War

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Two. This could have been seen
not only in the United States if it

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was being played for the troops,
but also could have been something that Jack

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came into contact while he was stationed
in Japan in nineteen fifty four, nineteen

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fifty four, fifty five at any
rate. On July twenty fourth, nineteen

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seventy, the Mikado play, pages
three fifty two and three fifty three were

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mailed to Say in San Francisco.
To the San Francisco Chronicle, this is

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actually the beginning of what we're going
to see as the little list poem.

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But it's obviously very different from the
letter that's handwritten by Jack. So I'm

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not going to read this entire thing
for you. It is up here on

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the presentation so that you can go
back and read it it another time.

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It says, this is a Japanese
play that Jack, like I said,

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could have come into contact. And
I think that Dennis mentioned at one point

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in time that I felt, but
I'm not sure if I was correct and

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remembering it, but that Jack actually
participated in a play. Did you hear

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something about that hereet? I think
so that he was somehow connected to that

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play, right, and either he
played a part in it or he did

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something with it, either waylaying the
rule here, I recalled my father.

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It's real simple. I think the
three of us can agree that everything Jack

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did was message oriented. It's all
his talk. It's all to refer to

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another signal back and forth repeatedly and
at least times usually yes, two to

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three times, and could have two
to three meanings, which is what really

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kept everybody spinning without direction. Right. Yeah, So this letter is not

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on the Foyer files. As a
known zodiac letter. But we can clearly

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see that the envelope, being handwritten, is definitely holding all of the telltale

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marks and things that we would look
for in the zodiac letters. M hm.

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That actually brings us to the thirteen
slaves waiting in Paradise. Now,

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I completely forgot to get with you
on this one, Harriet. I do

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not know if you actually had a
solve to this, but it did not

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include it. So we're just going
to kind of read this one and see

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where it goes. What's that,
Oh, it's in the it's in the

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with the little list letter. I'm
seeing them by other people that were putting

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these up that they connected the two
together, but it was connecting together and

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saying a whole bunch of information.
Well, I will definitely be I will

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definitely be entertaining the little list solve
here in a minute. So we'll catch

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up with that then. So this
was received on July twenty sixth, nineteen

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seventy and this is the Zodiac's message. This is the Zodiac speaking being that

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you will not wear some nice buttons, how about wearing some nasty buttons or

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any type of Zodiac buttons that you
can think of if you do not wear

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any type of Zodiac buttons. I
shall, on top of everything else,

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torture all thirteen of my slaves that
I have waiting for me in Paradise,

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which is spelled with a seed.
Some I shall tie over the hills and

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watch them scream and twitch and squirm. Others shall have pine splinters driven under

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their nails and then burned. Others
shall be placed in cages and fed salt

406
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beef until they are gorged. Then
I shall listen to their pleas for water,

407
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:29.880
and I shall laugh at them.
Others will hang by their thumbs and

408
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:35.440
burn in the sun. Then I
will rub them down with deep heat to

409
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:40.519
warm them up. Others I shall
skin them alive and let them run around

410
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:46.559
screaming. And all billiard players,
I shall have them play in a darkened

411
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:52.480
dungeon, all with crooked cues and
twisted shoes. Yes, I shall have

412
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:59.159
great fun in inflicting the most delicious
of pain to my slaves. Signed sfpd

413
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:05.119
equals zero h Zodiac equals thirteen.
Again this is on the foil list.

414
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:09.559
They did process the envelope for DNA
and there were cells found, but we

415
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:15.480
don't know whose cells. Ah anybody
have any spin off or take on that

416
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:19.639
particular letter before I move on to
all I got out of it. We

417
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.039
got Jack's Q there right there and
squirm. I mean, that's the other

418
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.679
thing I'll tell you that's aside to
this, And I know you don't want

419
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:28.039
to go down the road right now. They had a whole four murders,

420
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.639
but they were watched. Two of
the victims were watched on a service call.

421
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:34.159
Oh yeah, No, I don't
have yeah, I don't have any

422
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:40.519
time. That's a violation of their
rights to be monitored that way, right,

423
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:45.639
I literally I'm very tight for time
on this, so I cannot spin

424
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:52.239
off. Yeah, I wanted to
say that what the torture sounds or whatever

425
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:58.119
he's talking about, everything about the
ants and stuff. That's also, if

426
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:01.800
I recall correctly, what was done
is Vietnam to prisoners of war, right,

427
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:09.239
So he's he's alluding to something there
which is more of you know,

428
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:14.880
he was now a famous prisoner of
war guy who had just got out in

429
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:22.679
nineteen seventy three. Seventy chorus That
was John McCain. So that's a large

430
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:28.679
subject John McCain. But right,
I would like to pull back and show

431
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:32.039
that he uses the words twitch in
here, and that was used in the

432
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:39.599
Sherry Joe Bates confession letter and it
was spelled incorrectly the same way. This

433
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:46.320
is a suspected zodiac correspondence. With
DNA cells found the unusual reference to salt

434
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:52.840
beef Jack used to use salt to
cure his meat in Tanna's hides. We

435
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:58.719
have the fun m o again and
the rhyme or the poetic reference. We're

436
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:00.840
going to see a lot of a
poet ex style, even going back to

437
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:07.239
the UH desktop poem. And that
was another question I had, Did you

438
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:12.519
ever have a song on the desktop
poem? Actually I did. It actually

439
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:22.599
worked out as a Z forty eight
girl cipher, which was about if I

440
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:27.639
remember correctly, God, it was
saying something about UH why they went after

441
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:35.079
her boy, her ledged boy or
connection to Lee Bowers Junior. I think

442
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.440
so, I will send it to
you sometime. But but I I just

443
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:43.119
was taking a literal step in the
dog. You know, let's see if

444
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:47.880
this work is a UH cipher because
I found thing that was, you know,

445
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:52.599
a little bit older than the Actually
anyways, it did. It came

446
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:54.719
up with something that was saying,
we'll look, we'll look, we'll look

447
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:59.440
for it now. I do want
to mention that the desktop pro poem was

448
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.199
signed off as our H, and
a lot of people were trying to fit

449
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:07.639
that r H into the suspects sign
off, as if that was supposed to

450
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.840
be the suspect. But now that
we've seen the way these messages have been

451
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:15.920
coded and have been put together by
the Zodiac, it is plausible that that

452
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:21.039
sign off was not a sign off
but a send to and our H being

453
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:25.719
Randolph Hurst. It was going to
be Hurst owned newspaper in nineteen sixty six,

454
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:32.440
Ozen Aft in the Riverside area.
And now all of these songs that

455
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:36.360
cherking up with are al sitting to
the fact that they are going to Randolf

456
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:43.320
Hurst. What's that? What did
you say, dary Frose? For a

457
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:50.119
moment, yeah, I'll restate that
on the desktop poem, the sign off

458
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:54.800
for Randolf for our age could very
well be a pointed message towards Randolph Hurst,

459
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:59.440
rather than it being the suspect signing
off his own name. And now

460
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:04.639
the so that Harriet is coming up
with is showing a direct relation or messages

461
00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:10.960
being sent to Randolph Hurst's I mean, amazing, amazing, Okay, it

462
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.639
keeps circling back around. So these
are some of the things that I found

463
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:22.519
the same type of spelling errors,
the letter editions, misspellings like paradise twitch,

464
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:30.360
the reference to salt beef, and
Jack actually made a fleshing a skinning

465
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:37.639
and a fleshing recipe on a notepad
where he talks about rubbing things down with

466
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.280
salt. So in that letter that
we just looked at, he not only

467
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:46.840
talked about skinning them rubbing them down
with salt, but some other dastardly things

468
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:50.920
as well at the same time,
either way letting them burn in the sun

469
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.440
and then running rubbing them down with
deep heat. These all seem like some

470
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:59.559
very tortuous things to do to somebody. The splinters driven under the nails,

471
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.960
that right, and then and then
set on fire. That's very deep.

472
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:09.760
That that's very torture in Vietnam.
If I understand the stories that I heard

473
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:15.320
from other people that went through Vietnam. He wasn't the word deep on the

474
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:17.719
last document. Remind you of when
you saw the word deep. He put

475
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:22.519
the word deep in there. I
thought about the deep throat guy from the

476
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:27.039
Nixon thing. Well, it's on
this one too. And l twenty two

477
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:30.480
L twenty four of deep heat,
and you know, I just wanted to

478
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:34.519
use that word deep you know,
did he know anything about deep throat?

479
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:37.760
That was going to be the deep
throat's identity was a secret for a while.

480
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.559
I no, No, I guess
you could spin off into that direction,

481
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:45.400
but rub down with deep heat.
If you put deep heat on somebody

482
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:49.199
whose sunburned, you were going to
set them on fire. Yeah, I

483
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.360
understand that. I'm just saying that
since things had double and trouble meetings with

484
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:58.480
this guy, I just everything's you
know, showing a Nixon connection and all

485
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:02.679
this things going that way. I'm
thinking, like, I'm just saying word

486
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:07.679
association deep throat. That's all I'm
saying. That's nothing, right, all

487
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:09.880
right, I've got about eight I've
got about eight minutes to make it through

488
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:15.679
these final slides. So basically we've
got the slaves waiting in Paradise. There

489
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.519
is Paradise, California, which is
another favorite camping location for Jack. Paradise

490
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:23.559
was misspelled in a railroad map from
nineteen oh three, so the actual railroad

491
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:29.480
station that went through Paradise, California
was misspelled on the railroad map as paradise

492
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:32.039
with a sea, and with JT's
love of the train, he may have

493
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:37.880
known this. Also, Dennis believes
that it referred to theory, which was

494
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:43.840
another one of JT's put together words
pair of dice. Jack was living in

495
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:45.800
a school bus at one point,
and he was set and he set up

496
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:52.079
and was gambling on it. Also
the paradise with the SA Motel in South

497
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.679
Lake Tahoe near the casino where Donald
last was last see, so we have

498
00:41:54.760 --> 00:42:00.280
lots of references for paradise that brings
us to the actual letter, the Little

499
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.880
List itself. This entire letter is
one big poem about a list of people

500
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:07.679
he would like to kill. It
is not on the FBI foil list once

501
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.400
again which I don't understand. And
Jack had a love for the Japanese culture.

502
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.719
Dennis believed he had met and married
a Japanese girl, but had the

503
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.760
leaver behind when the war ended and
he had to return home. The desktop

504
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:22.960
poem, with its haiku form of
one word per line, is another Japanese

505
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:28.000
link. The Little List letter was
sent on July twenty sixth, nineteen seventy.

506
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:30.760
I'm going to do a quick rundown
of this so that we can get

507
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:34.360
to Harriet's solf. It says,
as someday it may happen that a victim

508
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.440
must be found. I've got a
little list. I've got a little list

509
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:42.119
of society offenders who might well be
underground, who would never be missed,

510
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:46.519
who would never be missed. There
is the pestilent nuisances who write for autographs,

511
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:52.159
All people who have flabby hands and
irritating laughs, All children who are

512
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.960
up in dates and implore you with
implat, all people who are shaking hands,

513
00:42:55.960 --> 00:43:02.159
shake hands like that, and all
all third persons who with unspoiling take

514
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:07.400
those who insist they'd none of them
be missed, they'd none of them be

515
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:12.639
missed. There's the banjo serenader and
the others of his race, and the

516
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:16.199
piano organist. I got him on
the list. All people who eat peppermint

517
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:20.800
and pompet in your face. They
would never be missed, They would never

518
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:25.760
be missed. And the idiot who
phrases with enthusiastic tone of centuries but this

519
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.840
and every country but his own.
And the lady from the provinces who dress

520
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:37.960
like a guy who doesn't cry and
singularly abnomally, the girl who never kissed.

521
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:43.079
I don't think she would be missed. I'm sure she wouldn't be missed.

522
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.599
And that nice impriest that is rather
rife, the jujitsil hummhrist, I've

523
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:52.079
got him on the list. All
funny fellows, funny fellows. I think

524
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:57.320
of them as the mob comic men
and clowns of private life. They'd none

525
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:01.239
of them be missed, they'd none
of them be missed. And uncompromising kinds

526
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:05.239
such as watch, I might call
it thing. I'm a bob And likewise,

527
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:08.360
well, never mind and tut tut
tut, and watch his name and

528
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:13.400
you know who. But the task
of filing up, the filling up the

529
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:16.239
blanks, I rather leave it up
to you. But it really doesn't matter

530
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:20.800
whom you place upon the list,
for none of them be missed, none

531
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.400
of them be missed. And he
says, ps. The Mount Diablo code

532
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:36.159
concerns radians and inches in inches along
the radians, All right, this right.

533
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:43.400
I actually took note to where this
particular circle started and ended, and

534
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:49.000
it was the same as Jack's hypnosis
symbol right there, So it starts and

535
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:54.920
stops at the same place. We
do see that Jack has these uh calculations

536
00:44:54.960 --> 00:45:01.599
and mathematical calculations, formulas for things
such as radians, so he has radius,

537
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:07.880
volume, surface areas, circumference of
the circle, everything that would break

538
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:12.599
down obviously, and let us know
that he is completely up to date in

539
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:20.559
his math, math and his ability
to map out equations. So that brings

540
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:25.679
us to the soul that you had
on the little list I think I did.

541
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.679
For I put the two letters together
because I was finding them running together

542
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:36.760
the what you said as the thirteen
slaves or whatever anyway, so I put

543
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:39.920
them together. So let's just read
what it says, because I did my

544
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:46.480
best to say what and how I
did this. Anyways, it says Randolph

545
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:57.360
carbon copy VP Vice President Ford saying
President Nixon quit game. I'm Zodiac.

546
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:04.199
And then he's trying to say in
VP Harry Truman and Nixon Woollward two's secret

547
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:12.199
code send UPI or via UPI,
which is hearst United Press International Wire System.

548
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:16.199
Anyways, he's saying. Then there's
a pause, and it says US

549
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:24.880
and Kennedy NASA autopsy photos hit In. Voters voted most ugliest man, shoeless

550
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:31.519
singer. That's Choplin PA System under
one Earth, Rice stamp Halloween sent to

551
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:37.599
Gray Smith. Then he's saying about
the postcard king in this Sla postcard King

552
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:45.119
with one Raphael Madonna Christmas stamp.
He's trying to recap what's just happened in

553
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:49.519
nineteen seventy four. Then he's saying, sick, that's a quote about Ivans

554
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:57.159
the family, which is lightning him. In commission Klaus's no Minnesio, Ralph

555
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:04.920
Casasanto, it's Costa Santa to dump
juvenile New Mexico. Uh. Then he's

556
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.960
trying that's gonna be in the future. It hasn't happened yet. The baby,

557
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:13.639
baby Holly, hasn't been born yet
anyways. Then he's going on to

558
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:17.760
say about cappuccino. He wants to
talk about there's coming up in nineteen seventy

559
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:23.239
five. They're gonna kill Hafa,
the cappuccino lover. But then he's he's

560
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:31.320
he's he's flipping out. He's you
I r ubi use remedium, Frank Olsen

561
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:37.960
tattletale, Frank Olson, moved paper
files, Feldman Gottlieb, George Hunter White,

562
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:45.519
The three argued. Then he's saying, LSD this Saudi the e Stwight

563
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:51.760
Eisenhower, I got to read my
own handwriting and Sildy execute order. Then

564
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:54.239
he's saying I and then been laden
group, which goes back over one hundred

565
00:47:54.320 --> 00:48:01.079
years by the way. Anyways,
Thomas Dewey times that Era Uti, under

566
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:09.119
the influence of CIAI cult plan to
destroy every secret thing Manhattan World Trade Center

567
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:17.320
has put time bomb going in to
implode the Twin Towers, and then he

568
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:24.320
puts the two cross circles as locations
for the two twin towers. Please answer

569
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:31.119
the question where is the remedy?
Did Prescott Bush saved Demosthenes death date number

570
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:37.679
three to two tattle tale, which
is to reverse something anyways, modus tolans

571
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:45.400
that's also to reverse and fix the
problem. Anyways, did Charles Chip Bowlin

572
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.960
I wish I did Terrence? He
says here, I wish I'd saved some

573
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:54.000
of this. So that's what this
is. And I combine the two together,

574
00:48:54.119 --> 00:49:00.679
the slaves and this one, because
that's where the others our competition had

575
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:07.559
been saying they kind of run together. I found it run together. Ira

576
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:15.000
ira ira Ike Feldman, Yes,
ira Ike Feldman. Okay. So I

577
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:19.440
was just following some we're getting ready
for the next episode to talk about radians,

578
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:22.360
and I was following up on some
of Girth Penn's work, and he

579
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:28.719
was actually hinting on or pointing towards
wind tunnels that needed to be used in

580
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:34.360
order to to do some some part
of his solve. Either way, they

581
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:38.199
they were only found and I want
to say the San Francisco area wind tunnels

582
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:43.719
large enough to accomplish this in that
area, and it was something related to

583
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:49.760
a NASA project. So we're seeing
the NASA again. Let's see what else

584
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:52.320
did I just see that? I
thought, oh, I cult? So

585
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:57.039
we saw the word I cult and
the solve from swearing in where he used

586
00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:00.880
first and last letter words of that
particular one and he came up with the

587
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.559
word I cult. So to find
I cult again is another one of those

588
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:13.159
confirmations one self confirms the other.
This is from the postcard King Harriet.

589
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:20.440
Have you seen the postcard King?
Hey, this is a thing. This

590
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:27.199
is actually from nineteen seventy four,
the littlest seventy four, not seventy Okay.

591
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:30.559
I think we're at about our time
limit now. It looks like if

592
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:34.199
there's anything else you guys would like
to add to this, I'm going to

593
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:39.679
wish everybody a wonderful weekend and have
a great Thanksgiving next week. I'm real

594
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:44.800
quick as to say that there are
other researchers that that claim have been claiming

595
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.400
for a long time, that these
things that have take place these days have

596
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:52.559
been planned decades in advance. Yes, but I have to We don't have

597
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.599
you don't have to. You guys, you guys. It was just like

598
00:50:55.639 --> 00:51:00.840
a real quick last second because we're
at nine fifty two. Okay, yes,

599
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.400
all right, last week. Yes, and thank you guys so much

600
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:08.079
for being here. This has been
wonderful. Take care, Okay, my wife