More Letters and More Solves

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True seekers and true crime junkies.
Welcome back to another episode of Hit

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the Road Jack Finding the Zoe.
Today, we are going to pick back

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up where we left off last week
in regards to an article that was written

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in two thousand, two thousand and
one in regards to the connection made between

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Donna Lass and the Zodiac Killer.
First, I'd like to welcome to the

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show Harriet Souchet and Nolan del Campo. Good morning. I found an interesting

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comment on my YouTube posts which I
must have missed at some point in time,

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because it says it was there eleven
months ago. I had an interested

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party who had stated they had just
got they had just gotten me over sixty

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subscribers on YouTube. He stated he's
followed my research for over twelve years and

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he searched for the Kaufman documentary for
years, in which case he was glad

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that I finally posted it and he
was excited to watch it. He said,

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he's disappointed that Afrodaddy Jones took down
the true crime episode guarding the matter.

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I do know that that used to
be up. You used to be

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able to find the Aphrodite Jones episode
on that she did with Dennis Kaufman just

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went she went to cable or like
HBO or something like that, so she

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pulled all of the videos down that
were accessible by the public for free,

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and now you actually have to have
some type of a subscription to whatever channel

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it is that those are playing on. But I do actually have that video

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in hand, so I was able
to play a little bit of it with

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some permission at one point in time. But I don't think that I can

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actually produce the entire thing for people
to see, which is kind of a

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shame. But I do have it. If somebody wants it, I could

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definitely make some copies and send it
their direction. All right, you guys,

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how did your week? What's that
I was talking podcast sir? I

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lost my copy. I'm gonna need
another one, Okay, yeah, yeah,

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I do need to make some copies
of that for sure? All right,

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Well, we left off last week, like I said, with this

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article from the newspaper. It was
Thursday, November sixteenth, two thousand.

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The Sacramento b actually produced it,
and I believe we had just finished up

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the first I'm just going to start
it all over again, so by Gregory

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crofton Tahoe Daily Tribune, south Lake, Tahoe. Her bathroom light was left

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on and there were no signs of
a struggle. Piles of clothes lay neatly

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folded in her new apartment, but
twenty five year old Donna Last never came

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home to put them away. Last
disappeared in nineteen seventy while working a late

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night shift at a State Line casino
nursing station. Thirty years later, little

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progress has been made in solving the
mystery, but South Shore detectives have been

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investigating Lass's case since August, thinking
she might have been a victim of a

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serial killer who called himself the Zodiac. Interesting that they say state line,

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they call it state line, and
you're coming up in your solves with the

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words state line, right, Harriet, over and over and over again.

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If I had a dime for each
time I got es for E state line

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or E state line spilled out,
Yes, quite a few times. So

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that verifies you know so much information
from the past. Right, So when

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they go on to say the killer
send dozens of letters to several California newspapers

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that began with the words this is
the Zodiac speaking. They also were filled

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with astrological coded messages and threats written
in a capital letter English. In the

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letters, the Zodiac took credit for
five murders, two attempted murders, and

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a kidnapping, all in California in
nineteen sixty nine and nineteen seventy. I'm

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not sure why they stop short.
Obviously this is in two thousand, but

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why they stopped short of that he
only claimed five murders and two attempted with

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a kidnapping when the letters that continue
on clearly state a additional numbers of attempted

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murders or murders. Correct. Yes, I think that they were doing this.

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I think we it's this is right, the time period where Jack Turns

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is the number one suspect, all
of a sudden, right exactly right out

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of South Lake Tahoe, Dennis,
where you lived. And so I think

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that that's how this was timed.
This is my opinion. Yeah, yeah,

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the two thousand eras when when Dennis
was actively attempting to pursue Jack as

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a suspect with law enforcement agencies.
So it is definitely that time frame,

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it says in the letters the Zodi
oh Okay, the self proclaimed murderer made

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phone calls too. On September twenty
seventh, nineteen sixty nine, a man

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was audacious enough to call the Napa
Police Department around seven pm and claim that

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forty five minutes earlier he had stabbed
two people to death. One victim survived,

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But did terrifying murderer ever come to
South Lake Tahoe since August. South

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Lake Tahoe Police Detective Tom Connor,
which we discussed last week, is he

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is the law enforcement officer that we
heard from out of South Lake Tahoe on

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the audio files that I played that
Dennis had recorded between him and law enforcement,

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and Tom Connor seemed to be one
of the biggest advocates of looking at

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Jack aside obviously of from Chris Hopkins
of the FBI, but he was definitely

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moving forward on Jack as a possible
suspect, and that connection between Zodiac and

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Donna Lass. South Lake Tahoe Police
detective Tom Connor has been reviewing a report

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compiled by Harvey Hines, a sixty
six year old investigator from Groveland who claims

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don Alas was kidnapped and murdered by
the Zodiac. Hines, a retired policeman

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who has been investigating the case since
nineteen seventy three, became interested in the

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South Shore area after the Zodiac sent
a postcard to me stating that he had

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claimed his twelfth victim in the Tahoe
area. He soon found two supplemental South

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Lake Tahoe police reports filed in March
twenty fifth, nineteen seventy that peaked his

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interest. In the reports, a
woman claimed she had met a strange man

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at the International House of Pancakes on
US Highway fifty who wanted to read her

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astrological chart. Later that day,
the man came to her house to read

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the chart he had prepared. He
eventually left her house without incident, but

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the description she gave police is similar
to that given by others who encountered the

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Zodiac. I don't know that Jack
did any astrological readings. I'm pretty sure

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he had a book about astrology.
I think in his belongings, but I

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don't know that he was actively or
I've never heard Dennis say that he actively

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attempted to do them, right,
No, I don't think so. But

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you know that somehow conjures up the
image of Sammy Bitt's story would be firing.

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We can get her on the show
too sometime to get her viewpoints.

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I have had her once on the
show, and I would like to have

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her back. But I was waiting
more along the lines of the era when

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she started receiving some of this stuff
that she luses from the zodiac. Well,

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all right, say I believe her. Actually, I think she's lucky

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to be alive, right right.
By nineteen seventy hold on. By nineteen

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seventy six, Hines identified a man
he believes the serial killer, a person

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who is still alive. I was
doing this on my own. Hind said,

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why didn't the other agencies take it
and run because they had all their

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own suspects. There were so much
departmental jealousy it was thick enough to cut

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with a knife. In late August, as part of a thirty year memorial

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push by the Last family to solve
the case. The investigator presented an eighty

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page report to South short law enforcement
agencies. Connor took an interest in the

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case, as did a Douglas County
investigator, and together they began working on

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it. Connor has gone over Heine's
report four times but has found holes in

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it that he said he needs to
review with the investigator the report aside.

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Last week, Connor collected a blood
sample from Lass's older sister, Mary Pilker,

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sixty six, and ran a check
on Lass's Social Security card and nursing

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license. The blood sample was taken
with hopes of finding a genetic match through

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the database maintained by the Department of
Justice. There is the possibility that it

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remains have already been found and entered
into the data bank. Connor said,

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if we get a match, at
least we'll know where she was found.

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Hopefully that would be some kind of
closure for the family. Connor also received

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from the FBI a psychological profile of
the zodiac that he plans to study.

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While the work being done by Connor
is appreciated, family members said they are

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not satisfied with the investigations. Heard. I haven't heard from anyone. Mary

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Poker said it is quite a disappointment
to be doing as much as he can,

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and he seems to be doing it
all on his own time. Mary's

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son, Dawn, said most frustrating
to him is that two women are alive.

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Two women are alive who he thinks
can identify the Zodiac, but who

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have not been interviewed by law enforcement. One woman, Kathleen john says she

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was a victim of the Zodiac on
March twenty second, nineteen seventy. Johns

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told police she and her infant daughter
escaped his grasp when they jumped from his

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car and ran into a field near
Patterson, California. When she got to

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the Patterson police station, john saw
a sketch of the killer on the wall

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and yelled, that's him. Years
later, Heines showed a number of photos

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to John's The man she picked out
immediately as her abductor is the same man

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Heines suspected for the past twenty four
years to be the Zodiac killer. Now,

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I have no information as to who
that individual is and what information Hines

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has or what pictures were actually shown
to Kathleen John's, which also begs the

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reason why the FBI would want to
show John's Jack's picture if if John's has

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already made an identification of someone else, if that person was not Jack.

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So I'm a little confused. Does
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social security card? It states that
they ran her social Security number, and

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I don't know what numbers of that
would have been. Well, when we

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get to some future souls, Jack
is talking about that social security card.

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So really yeah, so anyways,
we'll get to that at one point.

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But I was like, Okay,
I guess he's talking about something in that

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order, right, Okay, Well, there was definitely more interesting information than

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I thought I would find in that
particular article, even though I kept it

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for obvious purposes. They they're making
that connection between Zodiac and Don Alas,

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but I'm I'm pretty sure that Zodiac
made that connection himself when he submitted that

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letter, that particular postcard in regards
to the twelfth victim, and that it

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was validated or verified that that was
the writing of the Zodiac killer. So

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we should take that serious for sure. Another interesting piece of information is the

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reward flyer that went out. Now, when somebody puts out a reward flyer

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that clearly is not being put out
by the murderer himself. I would suspect

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that this was done by the family. It says family and investigators have made

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great progress in this case. We
are confident that our abductor murderer will be

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arrested, tried, and found guilty. If you have further information that can

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help us finalize our investigation that will
locate Donna and or result in a successful

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prosecution, please contact the South Lake, Taho Police Department. So obviously this

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reward poster was made by somebody either
at the police department or Donna Lass's family.

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Is that you're the system? Somebody? Ude? System? I got.

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I got a little confused, because
then we're going to look at the

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solve that swearing him has made in
regards to this particular reward letter. And

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he actually made the Hunt for the
Zodiac documentary where they used that solve and

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followed it to the location that we're
going to talk about here in a minute.

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But this wasn't written by the Zodiac. So why is it that he

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believes he can solve it using Zodiac
methods or why does he believe it yields

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a message that the Zodiac would tell
you where he or Donna Lass was when

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this was clearly not written by the
zodiac. Does that make any sense to

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you? Well, it actually,
in my view, it kind of does,

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because it means that this is a
part of a bigger and you know,

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the system of people that seem to
No I'm wondering how many people actually

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did know this code system, because
I'm seeing it. It's deck is saying

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this is CIA. It goes back
to seventeen eighty two. So you know,

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that's probably more as to why they
wanted to just see what it's going

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to say, you know, by
literally, let's see if this sticks to

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the wall. Let's try this,
Let's see what it's going to say.

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Well, then should we? Should
we? Then? I mean obviously he

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is let's go to his salft so
huh. This is where he claims that

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the salve has led him. So
he's saying that that the code itself is

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saying, started a casino. Proceed
to the west. Arrive at a fork

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in the road shaped like this.
Proceed in a relatively northwest direction until you

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arrive in an intersection, and make
a ninety degree turn turn right, proceeding

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via a negative one hundred and twenty
degrees traveling westward. When you come to

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the intersection of roads. Then stay
on the main road and turn south ninety

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degrees until you reach a major intersection
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N also indicates north. Once at
the north intersection, proceed north for

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twenty seven miles until you reach another
intersection. The two triangles for the letter

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M, which stands for miles.
When you arrive at that next intersection,

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quit, that is, stop at
the light, wait until it turns green.

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How he gets this from this,
I'm not sure. But make a

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negative forty five degree turn, turn
left, head westward. The road will

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gradually curve into a one twenty angle
going north. Proceed to the next major

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intersection, where you will make a
ninety left turn and head west. Get

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off the highway and then make two
back to back ninety degree turns, that

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is, turn right and then turn
right again. Then stop the car.

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The victim is buried in this area. So this is where my confusion comes

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in. He is making it sound
as though he has solved this to date

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where Donald Lass's body is found,
when this is a flyer saying please help

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us find her. Okay. See, my question is how do we know

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that the celt Lake Tahoe Police produced
the flyer. We don't. Like I

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said, it could have been the
police, and it could have been the

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family. They're offering a ten thousand
dollars reward, and I don't know what's

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that. Zodiac himself could have done
it, or Jack could have done it,

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We don't know. I think it's
because like we're seeing from what I

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keep saying, so what's that?
And and this was done. This is

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already drawing a connection between Zodiac and
Donald Lass when at that time in nineteen

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seventy, nobody was drawing that connection, right, Yeah, so this had

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to been at some point. Again, I don't know the source. I

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don't know when this was actually produced. It just reads as though it's a

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reward and they're attempting to speak to
the Zodiac in some type of code which

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then swearing him has deciphered or solved
to say that the remains would be found

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in a location, which, like
I said, that documentary, The Hunt

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for the Zodiac, which was on
I believe Amazon Prime, isn't it.

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They even literally went to this area, brought out kadaverdogs, brought out other

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imaging equipment. They did locate something
and They didn't say what that was,

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but they did not indicate that they
found don Olas's remains. But what provoked

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someone to take the time and energy
and the means to research or follow that

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particular lead to a location. If
this particular flyer was done by the police

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or the family, it's not perceived
by me, at least at this point,

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that this was done by the Zodiac. I think it's how did you

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come about getting this flyer? Probably
something on the internet. Okay, Now,

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Tom Boyd is the one who's who, if I remember correctly, is

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the one who first puts put this
in this in the system and blame me

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for misinformation. But that's where I
remember seeing it. Dennis saw he thought

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he saw it there too, and
then he's like, oh my god,

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this is South Lake Tahoe, and
that looks like Jack that well, it

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also looks like the Zodiac composite.
And so basically it's it's making the connection

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that Zodiac is a suspect as of
you know, nineteen seventy or whatever it

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was produced. I guess she's been
missing since that date. But we don't

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know the production date of it.
No, okay, no, we don't.

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All right, it's interesting, highly
interesting, right, right? So

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what makes a person flip it?
Even if they just found this on the

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internet and we had no idea when
it came, what would make somebody flip

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it to to turn it into a
message where it's supposed to be perceived that

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the Zodiac has written this and given
clues as to where he or Donna Las

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could be found. The other thought
was, if this solve is correct,

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then the Zodiac would be able to
to cipher this, and maybe that was

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a meeting point that they were asking
the Zodiac to meet them at. That

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was my other thought, not not
where donal Lass was, but where they

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wanted to meet the Zodiac. Guilty
after the fact and putting out clues,

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I wouldn't doubt it, but I
feel like he puts his clues out well

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enough in the crimes themselves. And
and I don't know that there was actually

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any letters written to any law enforcement
in South Lake Tahoe, which kind of

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I think confirmed his nastiness or his
willingness to communicate through the Hearst corporations.

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So even though he killed in South
Lake Tahoe, he didn't write to them.

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He killed in Sacramento. He wrote
the Sacramento be he killed in San

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Francisco, he wrote the Hearst newspapers, So why he would then continue to

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write the Bay area instead of the
location where he was at and currently killing

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almost lends to what Harriet has been
finding in her soulves is that these communications

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were clearly meant to go through the
Hurst Corporation, if not directly to Hurst

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himself. What I find curious as
well is that the poster has a specific

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date and time of the disappearance.
When when people disappear, nobody really knows

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the exact time they disappear, because
they've disappeared, it right to guess,

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right, the specific time, So
only the perpetrator would know the specific time.

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Well, and I think that say
missing since one I think that was

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the last time she was seen was
one thirty am. Yeah, yeah,

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so nobody knows what happened. Yeah
afterwards, Well, and this is a

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little bit more of his description,
and he's given you the path to where

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he or they ended up. Actually, he also attributes the sought Victim twelve

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Sierra Club card to that, as
though peeking through the pines in past the

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Lake Tahoe areas, He's given this
specific spot and this is where they went

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to in that documentary. So again
they're there searching for a body as if

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to presume that this poster was written
by the Zodiac and not by the family

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or law enforcement. So I wonder
what the means were for that, or

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this was just hype that they were
trying to put forth in regards to making

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the making it entertainable on the show, Like they're really searching for something that

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doesn't make any sense to me that
they're searching where they're searching, or that

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they're searching it based off as Saul
for a poster that didn't appear to be

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written by the Zodiac. So he
also found other things in here, like

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latitude and longitude numbers. He came
up with some other messages, I killed

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Donna, she sleeps on okay quit. He claims that there's a pictorial view

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of Donna's face found within those symbols
I've killed Donna, lass is in ten

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feet deep icy icy snow quit.
And he's doing this now by actually turning

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those symbols in different directions to obtain
these messages. Page seven stop now Zodiac

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too quick, wins Wow, and
then pictorial view of Zodiac's face. All

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of this stuff runs in tandem with
what we already know, so it's easy

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for him to put forth that information
and it makes sense to us. But

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that tells me that these these solves
can be done in a million different ways,

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and you could come up with a
million different messages all that might link

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to the Zodiac in one way.
It'll take you all the way down to

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the through the rabbit hole. But
yeah, yeah, I got work in

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somebody else's book. But I just
wanted to say real quick, he's not

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too far off as to how he
thought that he was going to find her

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buried there. I'm pretty sure,
but I'm seeing through a future solves.

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The body was moved, so I
think he would have been right. Then

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I tweaked it up a little bit. We took went to the roundabout.

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But I've got solves or Jack is
saying the body was moved again, right,

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So he's he's he's quite kind of
right. But they were hoping to

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find her. They found something though. Well. He had two more messages

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that looks like here, one that
says now PostScript was not a fake,

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was Zodiac proof quality and then symbols
for winking. He says and then page

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nine a hidden page. Original symbols
are reversed, flipped with no rotation,

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and that came out to use stoleed
info packed with Donna Lass do ask question

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and a question mark symbol why why
why? Why? That I related I

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guess to there was information a few
articles of Donna Lass's belongings were found in

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a shallow grave, but no body
do you know where they found that stuff?

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At Harriet It's it's in this it's
in the book. I shouldn't.

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I don't want to talk too much
about the book. But it's a certain

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particular location. It's where we walked
to though when we went up there in

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twenty eighteen. And that's oh that
that that other route, Yes, okay,

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all right. I wanted to say
something else. He's got it as

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where he's thinking those four ws are
or yyy why why? That's also in

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nineteen ninety seven, that is world
worm wide web or something like that,

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worldwide web web worm. And there
was a certain type of way of getting

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into if you had a computer then
to get into all kinds of systems stolen

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info system, worldwide web worm.
Jack was very much with what's oh my

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god, Hewlett Packard and you know, so I think it's more modern than

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we think. And he's I think, just trying to say something in nineteen

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ninety seven. So it's it's really
strange, okay, But anyway, it

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is what it is well that brings
us to an actual Zodiac communication, which

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is the thirteenth victim card. This
card, much like the black Doll you

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cutouts and the Donna last card cutouts
to create his masterpiece. Difference here is

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that we see the use of a
key punt, a whole punch, which

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one of our victims will be a
key punch operator. I want to say

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that we had one of them from
Texas and California. I have to go

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back and figure out which one was
the key punch operator unless you remember that

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Harriet up and so. And obviously
here's the thing. They actually attribute this

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to a Zodiac correspondence, even though
there's no handwriting on it. So pasted

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cutouts and all of the stuff that
you're seeing here, which has been already

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employed in many other crimes, is
being attributed as a known source in the

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FBI FOYA files. And it does
state it doesn't look like they attempted to

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process any DNA or fingerprints on it, because that spot is empty where it

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should say envelope or processed for DNA. It doesn't show anything to that says

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for DNA because if I remember correctly, and I had some old newspapers,

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but I don't anyways. The cross, the upside down cross, which is

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the petrine cross. I'm believed that
was supposed to be done in blood,

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in human blood. I have information
on that, and it wasn't it.

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I'll get to that at least,
what the what the information is saying to

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us. So this postcard was sent
to San Francisco Chronicle, San Francisco.

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It was the moon landing or the
Apollo mission. Stamp was used on this

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and it says Monday, October fifth, nineteen seventy Dear editor, you'll hate

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me, but I've got to tell
you some of them fought it was horrible.

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The pace isn't any slower. In
fact, it's just one big thirteenth.

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I don't understand the words. So
again he's always saying something that doesn't

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quite make that much sense. It
is signed the Zodiac. It has the

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Zodiac symbol in it. It has
an upside down cross. When you flip

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the card up side down. Yes, when you flip that card upside down,

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it says, ps there are reports
city police, pig cops are closing

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in on me. I want to
say that says fuck on crack crackproof,

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but it is okay, okay,
it is he's saying, that's the rare

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time that Jen I've only maybe five
times he actually swears, so he's right

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swearing. So he says, fuck
on crackproof. What is the price tag?

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Now? Of course these are all
things that we see later in those

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nineteen seventy four letters where everybody was
trying to say that they were or they

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were forgeries or copycats and not done
by the Zodiac. But he actually says

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all of these words in that letter, like you can't catch me, I'm

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crack proof, what's the price tag? You know? All of these are

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themes that we see continuing in those
communications. Mm hmm. So this is

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what I found in the FOYA files. It says the enclosure in this matter

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were furnished by inspector somebody a homicide
detail San Francisco Police Department on ten thirteen

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seventy The inspector advised that the cross
under numeral thirteen was made of a thin

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paper which was pasted onto the postcard, as was the other printing, and

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that the color of the cross was
red. So does that make sense to

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you? I heard that that was
in blood, and then somebody, I

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think later on says that it was
some kind of theatrical type of blood.

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I don't know. I so this
is back in nineteen seventy Flatoya files where

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and and this is what was reported
obviously to the FBI, because clearly if

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they had had it in their hands, they would have stated. All I

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know is I'm laughing thinking about what
I now know about TOCI. But if

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this is go for it? What's
that? One is a police report?

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Do we know which police is that? The Sam Francisco police report. This

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is an airtel to the FBI.
So this is to the director of the

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FBI. Attention FBI Laboratory, subject
Zodiac ree, San Francisco Airtel to Sacramento.

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So this is from Sacramento to because
it was mailed. The card was

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mailed to the San Francisco Examiner,
right, excuse me, Sam Francisco Chronicle.

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Sorry. So, and then that
information is being furnished to the to

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the FBI. And this was found
in the FBI foy of files on the

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Zodiac case. So they are reporting
on October thirteenth of nineteen seventy that that

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cross was made out of a thin
paper which was red. So it's not

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blood, it's not theatrical blood.
It's not blood at all. It's a

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thin piece of red paper that was
cut for that. Yeah. I thought

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that was interesting. Anyways, Yeah, red phantom exactly, Red, lipstick,

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lipstick killer, all of the above? Red? Am I going to

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find if I dig deeper? Am
I going to find him? Still trying

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to look at that point for the
for that damn red Carmine red two,

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since I that's what I keep thinking
of every time I see red. Now,

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So this is my take on the
card as I went through it.

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Linguistically. He claims thirteen victims with
thirteen whole punches. You'll hate me,

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but I've got to tell you.
So this is a free comparison that I've

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done. At the end of this
presentation, will I've put together all the

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different phrases used in these communications and
how they linked each other, the upside

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down Christian cross, red and color
and only and the only color cutout.

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I found that to relate to the
wolf's head inverted Ank Cross and Tim Miller

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upside down Christian Cross, zodiac symbol
equals Edward Adams cut out postcard and the

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Tim Miller cut out letter two thousand
and five, along with black doll You

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and many other cutouts that were used. There are reports that city police pig

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cops are closing in on me and
the zodiac is crack proof. FK for

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the explative fuck. We see this
in the ciphers from Lauren Swearingham. So

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the first time I had seen any
cussing is when I saw the solves by

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swearing him, and I was a
little shocked to see that his solves included

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cuss words. But now going back
and seeing this thirteenth victim, it makes

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a little more sense. Yeah,
he's he's got something to say about halfa

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about that time period. If you
Jimmy offa, you're gonna die seventy five

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something like that, So gotcha.
Well, speaking about what is the price

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tag? Now, he's often asked
what is the price tag on his head?

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The pace isn't any slower. This
is extremely consistent with black Dollia's letters,

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in which case he would say go
slow, go fast. We've even

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seen that as early as the lipstick
killings. In fact, the three forty

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Cipher by Lauren is just or using
the word in fact is actually something that

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was solved in the three forty Cipher
by Lauren as well, which gave another

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confirmation that he was on the right
path. It's just one big thirteenth.

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Some of them thought it was horrible, did not put up a struggle,

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which that is something he stated in
the Sherry Joe Bates Fashion letter. Key

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punch holes linked to key punch operators
and hospitals, which equals nurses. I

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think you and I discussed that right, that the key punch operators work both

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in hospitals as well well, if
I'm I'm trying to remember, But wasn't

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the suspicion of oh God Gidley,
Patricia Gidley, wasn't she suspected to be

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a key punch operator? Or I'm
trying to remember, is one of the

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00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:36.280
alleged Zodiac victims, which yes,
this, Yeah, there was a key

406
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.320
punch operator. Yeah, yeah,
I think we just haven't gotten to her

407
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:45.760
yet, but we will. So
The Apollo Moon postage stamp Zodiac astrologic Watch

408
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:51.000
monopolizing on Moon Landing's Halloween card shares
this stamp, so this is probably why

409
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:55.639
they attributed to the zodiac, because
the Halloween card was also attributed San Francisco

410
00:34:55.760 --> 00:35:02.840
Chronicle taken from newspaper headline, and
the rest of the post postcard was taken

411
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:08.920
from newspaper articles, which articles as
this could be a clue, just like

412
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:14.840
dB Cooper and the Playboy letter.
So yes, determining where these cutouts were

413
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:21.679
taken from might also lead to where
the Zodiac was when he was using those

414
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:28.119
particular newspapers. Might even be the
location he was at, and that brings

415
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.840
us to your solve in regards to
this. So I'm gonna let you take

416
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:37.320
over here. This is the envelope
to that particular card, correct now,

417
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:43.639
this is the top part is a
different portion, but the thirteenth okay,

418
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.320
two cards at the bottom. I
did a lot of work on that.

419
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:53.679
It's it's the card is a Z
I found it was a Z four await

420
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:59.639
real cipher combined with anagramming and the
meaning of the Earth rice stamp. I

421
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:02.840
mean that was when I was starting
to really dig deep about the meanings of

422
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:07.400
these stamps and how to find it. The data of the postmark Anyways,

423
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.119
it says where it was printed as
seen in the work I did. That's

424
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:15.599
what I'm reading from my own book, right, and says I at that

425
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.239
point when I did this and posted
this on my blog February eleven, twenty

426
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:29.559
twenty one, I said, I
haven't tried adding more an abbreviation to find

427
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:34.960
more details. So that's what this
is saying here. But then there are

428
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:40.480
two messages that do link together that
are meant for Robert Graysmith. So I

429
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:45.000
got that was one of my questions. You now believe that he was he

430
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:51.000
was conversing with Robert Graysmith as well. Robert Graysmith was one of the editors

431
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:52.320
at the Chronicle. They must have
had a million of them, but he

432
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:57.480
was. He was the cartoonist,
but he was also said to be one

433
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:02.760
of the editors. But the main
editor I now know is Poe turns the

434
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:10.039
Row. So hey, well,
that brings us to the actual solve itself.

435
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:14.000
If you want to go forward with
that. Yeah, let's read it

436
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:16.039
from my book, because I was
so happy to say this to you.

437
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:20.800
The things I found out. You
see about the Westwood End, he's bringing

438
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.719
about the Lessels. Those are wonderful
people. Okay, but we'll get to

439
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:28.920
that in a second. Anyways,
it says for the of the court,

440
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:36.639
the crew cypher connects with the I
in Frisco. Then the whole put just

441
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:40.480
fit over the rows and the zebra
await one war two lines two through eleven,

442
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.000
and of course it says as seen
in the picture above. And then

443
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:50.719
it says the earth right stamp,
which in the qu oh sorry a scene

444
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:53.440
in the picture is there's an E
in a H and a I S A

445
00:37:53.639 --> 00:38:00.199
M G E R O U S
animal of the t K s ov l

446
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:06.360
E. Anyways, that fits into
the ennagram. Then the earth rized stamp.

447
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:08.960
And then I'm saying, which I
just added today, the details of

448
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:15.159
the stamp and the decode in the
beginning God. Then the Apollo eight cents

449
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:22.400
United States, which should be post
Meridium. But anyways, five October or

450
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:30.480
oct nineteen seventy. Then it's am
I having problems in my video for audio?

451
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:38.159
Okay, so let's keep going.
It says the code key words I

452
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:44.480
found were are six bullets. Six
bullets, and I knew the direction where

453
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:46.719
this is going. He's going to
kill Sam, John, Sam Ty and

454
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:53.800
Connor with six bullets in the mouth. So anyways, it says the bibles

455
00:38:54.719 --> 00:39:01.159
was dog g in Conna eight six
bullets or two eat six bullets. Oh

456
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:09.480
for round Dave this income poop got
to eat Guy Wessel's Restaurant of Inkster,

457
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:16.519
which is Instern, Michigan located in
North Michigan Avenue circa nineteen seventy five.

458
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:25.079
But then it says when I add
uh Texas, it reads Robert g So

459
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:32.159
Robert Graysmith, Wisconsin in income Poop
Papa guest of Lessel's Restaurant, North Michigan

460
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:39.000
Avenue, Inkster, Michigan, USA
to die next be up with late our

461
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:45.679
end Donna location of the grave after
dog g and Conna to eat six bullets

462
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:52.239
nineteen seventy five. Then it's links
to another method. So and then the

463
00:39:52.440 --> 00:40:00.679
irishman is to kill International Teamsters Union
General manager Public Information. This or the

464
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:07.320
overgrown Hopas Senior gets to die at
lessel Restaurant, Michigan Avenue, Inkster,

465
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:14.400
Michigan by bloody G block. They
just started making or doing something with the

466
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:20.639
G block. But they also had
a night the block. This was true.

467
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:25.519
There was a year some uh some
some work being done on that kind

468
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:32.400
of a knife er weapon so anyways, but I was in the process of

469
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:37.559
finding a decode this. I was
seeing, is there somebody that named Lessels

470
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:43.559
and so on. I ended up
buying a menu from the Lessels restaurant.

471
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:50.559
And which book? Which book is
this in? This is in America's Most

472
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:54.000
Evil? And when did you?
When did you do this solve? I

473
00:40:54.119 --> 00:41:00.519
did the majority of the solve.
I think it was a twenty twenty,

474
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:05.719
but I was adding more as I
went along, and then twenty twenty one.

475
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:10.480
I was adding more details because it
was quite laborious. I ended so

476
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:20.280
obvious. So obviously before the movie
The Irishman, right, definitely definitely yeah,

477
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:24.400
So I'm astonished that she's got saulves
that discussed this. And then we

478
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:36.119
watched the movie The Irishman where what
was his name again? The Frank Frank

479
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:40.559
Sherin. Frank Sherin is the Irishman, right, right, so that they

480
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:45.119
are, or at least Frank Sherin
is attempting to take credit for having killed

481
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:51.320
Hoffa, which is obviously based off
the movie The Irishman. And you came

482
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:55.280
up with this information well before that
movie was out, So it always astonishes

483
00:41:55.360 --> 00:42:01.880
me. Sixty seven sixty eight even
I got it as early as sixty seven

484
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:07.239
sixty eight, especially by nineteen sixty
nine that there was a long drawn out

485
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:14.000
plan to bring down Hafenginacana and one
of the key players was Frank Sherin,

486
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:20.239
who was not supposed to be coveraged
friendly with with Tapa, and by nineteen

487
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:28.440
seventy the line to take over the
team shirs Sure, you know, I

488
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:32.039
think he ran it. He ran
a union right yeah, and Delaware near

489
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:37.480
near and that's where our current president
has a past of giving some breaks to

490
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:46.079
uh Teamsters related people through Frank Sheeran
and circa nineteen seventy three. So it

491
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:50.679
doesn't look good, but it's it
is what it is. You where there

492
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:53.320
were the Teamsters union, you had
some mobsters and they were just trying to

493
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:59.599
keep their people hot happy. So
well, just another confirmation. It just

494
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:04.000
always shocks me when you come up
with something that we didn't know at the

495
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:08.960
time and now we're getting information that
supports what you've already solved. It always

496
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:13.559
blows my mind. Yeah, try
being the codebreaker. I'm like, wow,

497
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:17.280
okay, I recognize the name the
Irishman, so right, uh huh.

498
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:23.079
So moving on with some of Jack's
information, Jack actually attended a California

499
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:27.880
trade school, though I've not been
able to actually actually locate where this trade

500
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:31.760
school was. He did this trade
school in radio and in television, which

501
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:37.920
again leads me right on back to
dB Cooper because one of the cutout pages

502
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:44.920
that he used the information from was
an ad in regards to TVs and radio.

503
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.719
So I thought that was interesting that
this is merely one year before this

504
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:55.679
Cooper Caper happens. Jack is actively
taking a radio and television class, but

505
00:43:55.880 --> 00:44:00.719
it puts him still in California in
nineteen seventy, which is just what I

506
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:05.880
had already figured. And it's right
up Zodiac's alley because we see a lot

507
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:09.639
of references to radio and television,
movies, books, things of that nature.

508
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:19.119
And then that brings us to the
postcard to doctor Edward c Adams.

509
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:23.239
This one was dated Monday, October
twelfth, nineteen seventy, and postmark ten

510
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:29.920
seventeen seventy, so it looks like
it sat around for a few days before

511
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:34.719
it was actually mailed out, But
it was sent to doctor Edward c Adams.

512
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.960
And I know everybody has heard about
him already because we had a letter

513
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:45.599
from somebody who was part of the
Mob was familiar with CIA tactics, had

514
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:50.840
worked for both, and was looking
to get help from mister Adams, but

515
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:55.519
that handwriting was not a match to
the Zodiac letters, and albeit they did

516
00:44:55.599 --> 00:45:00.239
ask this individual to also form bell
top ace, which I again could not

517
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:06.239
reconcile with the information that we're being
shown about the letters where there aren't any

518
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:10.599
bell top as to why they would
be asking somebody to purposely write bell topees.

519
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:15.119
That tells me that we might not
be seeing the true images of these

520
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:20.519
letters and that things have been altered
for the purpose of this never being figured

521
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:23.960
out. The other side of it
is that doctor Edward Adams seems to be

522
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:28.320
getting hit up by lots of people
who are in the Mob and CIA.

523
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:32.119
If he's gotten one letter from some
guy asking for help, and he says

524
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:38.880
he's family but not blood related.
So is he referring to the family again

525
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:45.920
like we saw on the Netflix documentary
in regards to these individuals. Who knows

526
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:52.320
either way. He sent this out
to mister Adams and it says Edward Adams,

527
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:57.320
the Zodiac is going to change the
way of committing murders. I shall

528
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:04.880
I shall ounce when I shall come. Oh, this is horrible to try

529
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:09.719
and read shall commit my murders?
The Adamses are next. You taught me

530
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:15.440
to mean it, Adams, you
are next Zodiac. So now he's getting

531
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:20.639
a direct threat from the Zodiac.
So I'm not finding that so coincidental.

532
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:23.519
But didn't you didn't you give me
some information in regards to who mister Adams

533
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:30.280
was. I found as I was
solving this, trying to understand why would

534
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:36.920
he do this, that he was
a psychiatrist out of that part of Contra

535
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:42.960
Costa County where Joe DiMaggio lived,
and in nineteen sixty two he had reconciled

536
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:49.079
with his wife. And I'm seeing
in a sob that I got that he

537
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:54.440
is one of the killers of Marilyn
Monroe, that he went to her place

538
00:46:54.480 --> 00:47:00.679
down in Brentwood, Wow, with
Eves Montague, and I have it in

539
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:06.079
one of the books, so that
ismable, but I wanted to make sure

540
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:10.440
that that was positive that he would
be located in the same area where Joe

541
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:16.239
DiMaggio was living at the time when
they reconciled. Hmmm, well that's uh,

542
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:22.920
we have go ahead. Do we
know anything further about Adams, like

543
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:29.000
any affiliations with FBI or CIA or
anything like that. I do not and

544
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:30.840
that, and we're pretty much out
of time so we can pick this up

545
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:38.920
next week and continue on with it. Very good, awesome you guys,

546
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:43.440
Thank you so much. Have a
break to get look at how big it

547
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:45.119
is. It's got so much in
there, but yeah, it brings out.

548
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:50.440
We'll see. I have to yeah, I have to go, Carriet.

549
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:53.440
Thank you everybody for tuning in,
and we will see you next week.

550
00:47:53.559 --> 00:48:15.400
Take care, Happy holidays, Happy
holidays. Exact exact exactment, exactly,