Aug. 1, 2025

Mayhem, Murders, Letters, and Solves

Mayhem, Murders, Letters, and Solves
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1988 – 1990 are years of unsolved murders for Texas and Virginia. The Zodiac Killer style communications seem to ramp back up during this time, but California seems to have very few unsolved murders during this time. Is it because Jack made roots that he is not willing to jeopardize? More solves to follow the communications, and incidents of letters not yet identified or seen.

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Good morning, True seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.

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I'd like to welcome to the show. Nolan del Campbell,

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Good morning, everybody. Good morning. Oh my goodness. I've got

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a lot that we're going to hopefully be getting out

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here today, lots of information. I'm going to actually start

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with Halloween of nineteen eighty seven. This is about where

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we left off in Jack's life. But we'll go ahead

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and throw that PowerPoint presentation up and show you some

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of the Halloween pictures. This is October thirty, first of

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nineteen eighty seven. Denny and his families don't know. Denny

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is Jack's biological son, is taking pictures in Jack's home

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on Halloween. This is the last known picture that I

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had of Denny and Jack's life and kind of confirms

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that Dennis had indicated Jack and Denny had had some

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falling out and we're no longer speaking or at least

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not talking for some time until after Dennis had turned

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Jack into the FBI. Then for whatever reason, they began

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speaking again. We also noted that Denny was a composite

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man based on Dennis's you know, composite from Lake Barriessa

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of the second individual that was supposedly seen lurking in

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the background of the Lake Barriessa attacks. But I thought

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it was interesting to note that the Halloween costumes for

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the kids this particular year is a magician and a ghost.

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And it was kind of more or less the fashion

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of the way they placed this sheet and then tied

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the rope around the neck, because when we get into

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the Texar Cana Phantom, I was like, huh, We've got

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this guy that's got this sack over his head with

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a rope tied around it in most of the images

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that they have for the Texar can of Phantom Murderer.

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And then as I'm doing some research, I find this

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makeshift hood here and it says survivors of the Phantom

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Killer attacks described him wearing a hood with eye holes,

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and if this is their description, I don't know. This

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was just somebody. I don't know why anybody would arbitrarily

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throw something together unless they were trying to mimic what

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the witnesses saw. But if we take note to it,

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it's square on top Nolan, just like the zoe. Yeah, yes, right,

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So I'm not sure if we can rely on this

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visual aspect, but this would suggest that the makeshift hood

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from the texar Cana phantom murders was either mimicked or

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the same person made that good for the Zodiac killings.

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And of course you can see it buckling all over

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all of the other images on the top, like we

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would expect the squarelan on the Zodiac to buckle as well,

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because it had four or it had had the corners

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and it was straight and square across the top. I

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thought that was extremely interesting, huh. So I did actually

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put it towards So here we have a rendition of

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the Zodiac hood and we see the buckling at the

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top and it has that square affect. That's the same

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type of buckling we're seeing on these other images for

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the Texarcana phantom murders, And of course here is the

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hood that Dennis found, which of course again is cornered

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out in square at the top, just like what this

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rendition was purportedly described by the victims of the Texar

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Cana phantom murders. So just interesting stuff. Right November thirty

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at the nineteen eighty seven we see thirty eight year

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old jazzber Singh on the thirty two hundred block of

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FM one nine, Pinehurst, Texas. So we're seeing murders back

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in Texas. Employed at Tubular Protection of America, which is

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a commercial oil tool plant making thread protectors out of

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polyurethane for the oil industry. I probably threw that in

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here just because of the relation to the oil industry

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that we've seen throughout much of this presentation. He was

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acting as a night watchman due to burglaries and thefts,

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so he's a security guard basically, and he's struck by

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an object several times and then stout to death. And

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the only thing that was taken is a business type telephone,

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it says in an electronic scale that had been stolen

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from the shop. I wrote next to that mess scale

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question mark, I mean they wanted a phone and a

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scale that seems like a lousy reason for somebody to

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lose their life. In December, I think.

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They were trying to disguise it as some sort of robbery.

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Right. Well, in December of nineteen eighty seven, Jack and

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family are still on Kirby Way, so we know he's

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still in the Sacramento area, and he is visiting Mary

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and Stockton on Christmas Day. We get to see some

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of those pictures in his belongings as well. But the

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murders seemed to be kicking off and picking up in

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Magnolia in Conroe. I mean, it all seemed to be

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definitely a serial killer operating in one particular area, because

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it seems like this is an awful lot of murders

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to have one area have, and it'd be so many

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different people killing. Does everybody just love to kill in

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Conroe and Magnolia? Right? So this was January seventeenth, nineteen

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eighty eight, Rainforest Road at Penguin Road, Clear Creek Subdivision

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in Magnolia, Texas. He resided at the sixteen hundred block.

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I don't see, I don't even have a name for

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this person. Let's see if we come across block of

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Berkland Street in Magnolia, Texas. January sixteenth to six pm.

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Met a female friend at Cherry Parkway in Houston, Texas

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to play bingo. This is all the Houston to Magnolia

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connections that we've seen. Left the Bengal Hall at approximately

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ten thirty pm. En route to home. Husband reported okay,

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so it's her husband reported or missing. I don't know why.

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I don't have this female's name in here. Missing to

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the MSCO. At eight forty five am. On the seventeenth,

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approximately two twenty pm, a resident of Clear Creek Subdivision

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observed her brown nineteen eighty three Chevrolet Suburban parked at

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the end of the Rainforest Road at Penguin Street in Magnolia.

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Her dead body was found inside the car, strangled with

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a bungee type cord and last information I had on

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it was the NCSO is going to be testing DNA.

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I don't know if there's any results from that as

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of yet.

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What Why would the husband wait so long? The reporter Lissie.

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Well, eight forty five so she must have been found, yeah, right, well, yeah,

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isn't that weird? Yeah? Unless he was sleeping and didn't

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wake up and woke up to find you know, I mean,

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I don't know.

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What from that's like ten hours sleep more than ten hours.

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Well, if she left the Bingo Hall at ten thirty,

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he could have fallen asleep at ten right and slept

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until the morning when he woke up and discovered she

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wasn't home. I don't know why not me, I don't

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even I don't even hear the words coming out of

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your mouth. I am a strict do not text me

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before nine am? Roll Okay, yeah, So and maybe maybe

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he's a good sleeper. Maybe, you know, he thought she

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was hanging out after I don't know what time. He

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also presumed that she was coming home. You know, at

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what point does it become she's not coming home versus

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she just is hanging out with friends afterwards or something.

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There could be a lot of reasons for it. There's

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also unideal it was. I would have to run the

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date in Google to know what that is. Yeah, but

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on January seventeenth, on the same time in nineteen eighty eight,

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or well, actually, I'm sorry, in nineteen ninety eighty four earlier.

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The murder occurred, but the body was found unidentified. Human

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skeleton remains woods off League Line Road two point four

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miles west of I forty five in Conro, Texas. So

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back to Conro. It's back and forth, back and forth.

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Magnolia Conroe jaw owned by a hunter scouting hunting locations.

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He took it to a dentist who declared it human.

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The MCSO searched and found more bones that were examined

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by experts. They had a possible description. White male, forty

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years of age, five foot four, taller, with numerous teeth

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having been extracted, remains, probably in the woods for four

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years plus. MCSO ran DNA through COTIS and found that

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it was male instead of female as previously thought in

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nineteen eighty eight. But that's the extent of why do

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I feel like I lost something in my hearing? Huh okay?

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So that brings us to our next female in Dublin, California,

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which is Eileen Micheloff. This one is not on the

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Sandy Bets map. I did not find anything in Dublin

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or even Dublin list on that map, so this was

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probably an outlier I picked up elsewhere. So it says

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the disappearance of Eileen Micheloff on January thirtieth, nineteen eighty nine,

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thirteen year old Dublin teenager Eileen Mitcheloff was abducted while

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walking home from Wells Middle School. She was last seen

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at approximately three pm that day walking alone on Amador

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Valley Boulevard near Village Parkway. Her key fob was later

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found near the entrance to John Maple Park, along the

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route she normally took to her home. At the time

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of her disappearance, Eileen had braces, pierced ears, freckles on

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her cheeks and the bridge of her nose, and a

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small lump on the inside of her left ankle. She

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was last seen wearing a charcoal gray pullover Esprie Polo sweater,

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a pink and charcoal gray skirt with horizontal stripes, and

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black low top kead sneakers. It sounds to me like

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she probably came from an upper middle class family based

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on nineteen eighty eight and wearing things like a spree

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those were things that my my family didn't own. We

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didn't own like brand name clothing. Anniversary walk, So for

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over thirty years, on the anniversary of her disappearance, a

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community candlelight vigil and walk was held in Dublin to

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keep Eileen's memory alive in the hope that someone someone

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could remember something that will help provide information as to

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her kidnapping impossible whereabouts. Following the passing of Eileen's mother,

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Maddie missile Off, the traditional walk will no longer take place. However,

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Dublin Police has shared messages from Eileen's father, Mike Mitcheloff,

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and former Dublin Police Chief Nate Schmidt. The investigation into

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Eileen's k kidnapping continues in the hope that she will

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one day return home safely to her family. And it

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gives you some links if you want to message the

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Dublin Police Chief Nate Smith Schmidt, and if you wanted

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to message Mike Mitcheloff, which is Eileen's father, and anybody

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with information regarding her disappearance should contact the Dublin Police

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Sergeant Craig Evans at nine to five eight three three

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six six seven zero and all tips will remain anonymous.

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It says, so some details behind her disappearances. Let's see

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what we've already done.

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That.

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So, she was walking home in Dublin on January thirtieth,

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nineteen eighty nine, at three pm after her classes concluded

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at Will's intermediate school. Several classmates reported seeing Eileen walking

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alone on Amanor Valley Boulevard near Village Parkway and the

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Shamrock shopping Center in the afternoon. She vanished shortly afterwards.

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She was taking a short cut home, going through a

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wide alley behind a shopping center. This kind of reminds

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me of Sherry Joe Bates being a student that was

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killed in an alleyway next to the school. She was

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taking her shortcut home going through a wide alley behind

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a shopping center, a furniture store called Sawmill and Gallagher's

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Pub win across the boulevard, oh then across the boulevard

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and through John Mate Park along a dry creek bed.

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Eileen has never been seen again. She was carrying a

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dark blue bead at the time of her disappearance. The

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backpack was later found abandoned in the creek bed in

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John May Park. So this is kind of like, I

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don't know if this was a robbery attempt or why

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they felt they need to kill her, but strewn belongings

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as it leads away from the body is kind of

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something we see with a lot of these murders. You know,

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the killers just basically dumping stuff along the freeway as

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he's leaving out from the area that the body's been left.

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It was located in the area that had already been oh,

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so the backpack was later found abandoned in the creek

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bed and John Park near where she was last seen.

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It was located after the area had already been searched,

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so the authorities believe someone may have placed it there

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after Eileen's disappearance. So basically they did the search and

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then somebody came back and dumped her stuff afterwards. One

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possible suspect naden in Eileen's disappearance is Timothy Bender Bindner,

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who was also investigated for possible connections to the disappearance

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of Amanda Niki Nicky Campbell for many years. Bidner was

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also considered a suspect in the nineteen eighty eight disappearances

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of Amber Schwartz Garcia, which I think that's a familiar

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one everybody remembers, from Pinol, California, and Mikayla Grrect from Fremont, California.

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He was never charged in any of the cases, maintains

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his innocence and successfully sued Amanda's hometown of Fairfield in

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nineteen ninety seven for defamation of character. So clearly, I

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mean he's not the person he stayed around and fought,

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all right. So we had two letters that were in

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the FBI foy of files. I have not seen these letters.

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I could only type up and put into the presentation

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the information that was found on the letter or I'm sorry,

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the files from the FBI. And there are two letters

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that went out to McDonald's, one on February first, nineteen

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eighty eight, and one on February eighth, nineteen eighty eight.

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And it begins, this is the Zodie and it's postmark Chattanooga, Tennessee.

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I couldn't make out the entire see well, it does

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say addressed to McDonald's to Northgate Park, Chattanooga, Tennessee, three

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seven three four three. The second one was addressed to

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the same exact location, attention Dan R. Written on graph

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paper front and back, accompanying from McDonald's profile change notice

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with the hand printed message this is shit. So does

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a zodiac have a problem with McDonald's. I think that,

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like literally. The reason why I put these in here

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is that Harriet used to work for McDonald's and she

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would tell a story about the one of her coworkers

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who purportedly received mail at the McDonald's that she was

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currently managing, but she was off that day, and that

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employee opened up the mail and ingested some time she

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believes anthrax, and then had subsequently went home and died

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from it. And then, of course she describes that has

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Matt was around, you know, all these things were going on.

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She believed that she was being targeted and her father

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had also passed I want to say, somewhere around nineteen

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ninety or maybe even right here in this eighty eight

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ten ninety era from what she also believes was anthrax

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as well. He received a package in the mail, opened

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it up and supposedly this powder came out, and she

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said that he basically bled out sitting at the chair

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at the table. Again another has Matt situation. Her dog

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became ill from this particular exposure that her father died from,

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and when the dog was treated at the hostel at

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the veterinarian clinic, he was given cipro. Zipro is the

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is basically the antioty. I guess.

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This is one of Harrie's coworkers at the Sandals.

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Yes, wow, oh not these not these McDonald's. She was

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working at McDonald's in San Francisco. Oh, okay, so the

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letter come to the letter went to McDonald's in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

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Well it was postmarked Chattan. Well, yes, it's postmarked and

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sent to McDonald's in Chattanooga, Tennessee. And it's saying that

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this is a zodiac So it could just be a copycat.

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I don't know. I haven't seen the letter to be

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able to do it, but we know that they're hiding

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letters from us at this point from ninety six or

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eighty six, nineteen eighty six on law enforcement and FBI

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and everybody is withholding these images from US.

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Where's this maybe anthrax mail to which McDonald's was that

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San Francisco, San Francisco, Okay?

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Correct? And so dying right?

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Correct? Wow, that's crazy, right.

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And her father was formerly a merchant marine who evidently

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she believes, had some inside knowledge of lots of happenings,

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cleanups and things that the military would do, like in

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the areas of like the seven thirty one unit seven

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thirty one with Ishi where he was in Japan, I

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believe or China. He was doing bio warfare basically on

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his own people on prisoners of war. They busted him,

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broke up the camp. From my information, it shows that

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they gave all the scientists a free ride to America

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to trade information. But they would do things like feed

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and thracks or sipless or cut off your arm to

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see how long it took you to exaguate. They were

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doing some horrible, horrible things to people, and it was

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basically genocide on top of anybody who was a prisoner

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of war or any other race. It was all inclusive

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of all kinds of people. So we couldn't perform those

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tests here in the United States, but we know that

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we're really big on helping out those that will share

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that information with us, which is kind of ekey that

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we would do that. Bring them here, give them houses,

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give them benefits, get them set up, give them jobs

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if they trade their information of how to kill people. Wow.

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Yes, the recruitment of the Japanese scientists and whatnot and

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medical people wasn't as big as Operation paper Clip with

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the Germans, but it happened.

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That's adea.

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It's in the book about Frank Olsen. There's some stuff

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about that.

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Right right. And it was called that was Unit seven

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thirty one. I definitely some things just stick in your brain.

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I don't know how I keep half this stuff up here.

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So anyways, Harriet believes her dad died from anthrax. She

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believes her coworker opened up a letter intended for her

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because she was the manager normally doing handling the mail,

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and that she was supposed to have been targeted with it,

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and that her dog had also fell sick and was

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given cipro. And sipro is the anna by audict that

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they give you when you've been affected by anthrax.

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Wow.

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So yeah, And she even at one point in time,

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I don't know if I still have the picture, but

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she had sent me the picture of the actual bottle

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that was given to her to her dog, and it

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definitely said sip Ro on it.

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At one point, this is a little off the track,

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didn't you?

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And Dennis in uh, Jack shed container containing some suspicious substance.

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Yes, it breaked us out, Yes, it freaked us out.

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In the end they took Yes, In the end they

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determined that it was either the cremation some of Jack's

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remains I believe, I think is what happened. So all

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I know is that when Dennis opened up the bag

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that it was in. He said that whatever was so

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foul and basically robbing him of his breath, he couldn't

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like even breathe. And he popped it over and saw

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that it was a white powder, immediately closed it back up,

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turned it over to the FBI, and they in turn

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turned around and said that I think it was remains

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or ashes, so maybe lying they.

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Are concealing what they.

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Actually found exactly. And it was in a film.

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You want to keep Dennis and you in the dark.

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Well, and it was in a film, counister. We know

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that Jack was big on photographs and film and and

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things like that. It was I don't, I don't know

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who takes remains and remains. He wouldn't. He clearly wouldn't,

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so either somebody else did. I don't. Yet none of

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it made any sense.

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It was reds, yeah, or maybe it was someone.

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Else's maids, right right, there's so many what ifs. I'm

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glad you remembered that. So many things have happened in

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this case. So On March twenty second of nineteen eighty eight,

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twenty four year old Darryl Wayne Caid in Nakuska Street

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textabus subedsion FM fourteen eighty four Conro, Texas. Associates left

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with kid, who later told the family that they had

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dropped Kate off at his request at the Montgomery County

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Fairgrounds located on FM fourteen eighty four outside of Conroe, Texas.

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Foul play is suspected. He's a white male. Date of

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birth seven four sixty three. When reporting missing, he was

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five foot nine, two hundred pounds, brown hair and brown eyes,

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mustache and beard, a tattoo that said love star with

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a star. He was a mechanic and the DNA identifies

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remains in twenty ten, so they must have found the

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remains at some point. I just don't know when, uh,

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because that was the missing date. But in twenty ten

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they were able to identify those remains. On April third

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of nineteen eighty eight, on Easter Day. Jack is known

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to spend Easter in Texas with his mom. I used

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to have pictures of when Jack was in Texas because

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he would ultimately take pictures with Mom and the family

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and everything when he's there for the holidays. And I

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at one point in time, with all of these unsolved

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murders that Dennis had given me, I was able to

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actually locate pictures of Jacks that would indicate he's in

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these areas during this time. So this March twenty second murder,

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maybe not, but the April ninth, that's relatively close to

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Easter Day once again. So I always wondered if when

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he went to Texas, you know, he didn't get some

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of his inter aggression out. I don't feel like he's

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doing a lot of killing back in California while he's

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working for Hewlett Packard, But would he go to Texas,

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hang out with the family and he disappears all the time.

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He's very good at it, disappear to you know, take

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advantage of his little sick traits, and then come back

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to California and he's not even being looked for because

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he's not even in the state anymore. So this one

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is on April nineteen, nineteen eighty eight, Cassandra Lee Hayley

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and Richard Keith call missing Persons. So a couple that

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goes missing on Colonial Parkway in Virginia. We definitely also

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have a serial killer obviously operating in Virginia. We're going

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to hear several of these missings and murdered victims all

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from the same location. Just like Conroe and Magnolia, we've

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got something operating in Colonial Parkway, Virginia as well. So

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they went missing after driving home from a party and

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their vehicle was found abandoned on the parkway the next morning.

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Law enforcement theorized that suspect posed as an officer in

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order to get them to pull over. We know that

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Jack was operating as a security guard at this point

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in time, so again he looked like an officer, and

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that was also something that was suspected in the I

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forty five killing sightings as well. On April ninth of

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nineteen eighty eight, we've got Jane Doe that's found in

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a rail yard on Southern Pacific Railroad in Texas. She

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was beaten on the head Railway death McKee McKee Street

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Railroad yard, one hundred yards off the seven hundred block.

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On June second, in nineteen eighty eight, sixty year old

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Leon's slide of Creekwood Drives, Flendora, Texas, body discovered by

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residents out for a walk on Creekwood Drive. Lived in Houston,

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Texas and worked as a security guard. He was beaten

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to death and identified through fingerprints. June third, nineteen eighty eight.

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His car is found on the parking lot of the

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clem Manor Apartments in the fifty three hundred block of

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Coke Street, Houston, Texas. Car was stripped and containing large

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amounts of blood on the back seat. Huh. Just scary.

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July tenth of nineteen eighty eight. With this, I think,

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is that police officer that you were talking about in

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San Francisco that was murdered. You had mentioned or said

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something I think last week about Lester Arnier.

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I don't know if it's the same one, but what

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I thought was earlier, years earlier, like in the seventies.

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I think there was one that was shot sitting in

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his car, right.

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Yeah, I was writing a ticket or something.

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Yeah, So this one was just another one that was shot.

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And I don't really have a lot of Yeah, I

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don't have a lot of information on him, but we

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do show murders in obviously San Francisco for the murder map,

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which included more murders from Sandy Betts maps than just

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Paul Stein. It included some prostitutes, other women. There's several

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people that individuals suspect the Zodiac could have been responsible

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for this one. Probably not even closely related. I just

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bring it up because of the involvement of high power people.

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And speaking of high power people, I just finished watching

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the Jeffrey Epstein Filthy Rich docuseries. I also watched the

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Gilaine Filthy Rich one as well. Let me just tell

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you that I was absolutely flattery acid at the response

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from law enforcement in regards to these cases. It does

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appear as though they are trying to just strictly create

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the image that Epstein is the only monster in this

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and that, and that Galine is, you know, the feeding

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of the monster basically by bringing the girls in so

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it looks like literally everything's being dumped in their laps.

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But the reality is is that you don't become this rich.

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You don't go from being a nobody somebody who gets

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fired from his job on the stock market because he's

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fiddled around with his expense reports and is cheating the

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company out of money. He get fired from that. Then

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do you know what was the name of the guy

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that he did the Ponzi scheme with four hundred and

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eighty million dollars? Obviously mob right made No, I don't

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think it was made off. He actually appeared on the docuseries.

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He did only I think seven years in jail, only

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seven years in jail for stealing four hundred and eighty

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million dollars worth of people's money. That in itself was

460
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:00.519
absolutely shoh.

461
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:04.720
On this officer. So it says Walnut Creek. So he

462
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:06.640
was found in Walnut Creek. His body.

463
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:10.839
I again, the information is like super limited.

464
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.599
Okay, because he was SFPD officer, but it says Wallet Creek,

465
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.119
so I don't know, right, So he must have talked

466
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:21.640
about was early seventies and he was found in San Francisco.

467
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.119
Okay, yeah, no, this one is saying Walnut Cred But

468
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:27.599
he was an SFPD officer at least that's what they've

469
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:29.799
got tagged underneath his picture here.

470
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:31.559
Yeah.

471
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:37.000
So anyways, the September sixth, nineteen eighty eight murder of

472
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:40.799
twenty eight year old Julie Ward happens in Massaimara Game

473
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:44.519
Reserve in Kenya. Now it says did not attend a

474
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:49.279
farewell dinner that night before departing for Africa. Her dismembered, dismembered,

475
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.119
and burned body was found deep within the reserves boundaries

476
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.519
a week after she was reported missing. Her father's efforts,

477
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:59.079
John Ward uncovered evidence that led Kenyan officials to believe

478
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:03.000
she was murdered. Horner's reports were altered to mask human

479
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:06.480
involvement in her murders. So now we've got people manipulating

480
00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:08.759
This is why I brought up the Epstein stuff. We've

481
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:16.480
got high ranking people manipulating the evidence. Safety for the

482
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:20.119
Kenyon tourism industry, there is high power. Officials like former

483
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:23.640
President Daniel moy has not been inclined to convict anyone

484
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.200
to this day. And I don't know if that means

485
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.759
that they had suspects, but the fact that they refused

486
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:36.240
to literally indict anybody or to attempt to convict anybody

487
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:39.440
of this crime is again back to what we saw

488
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:42.240
happening with the Epstein stuff. You know, we had girls

489
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:45.799
as early as nineteen ninety six that reporting to law enforcement,

490
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.839
and who knows, maybe some had reported before that, but

491
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.680
those that are on record that came out and actively

492
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:55.519
spoke and consistently told the story of what a monster.

493
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:59.160
Epstein was started in nineteen ninety six, and that got

494
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:02.279
my wheels click. You know, you're sitting here researching stuff,

495
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:05.000
you're looking at things. I'm a gas at the US

496
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:08.920
attorney that actually gave him a plea deal behind the

497
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:12.000
victim's backs, so that he did not have to go

498
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:15.759
into court and reveal any information whatsoever. He was given

499
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.799
eighteen months, did twelve months, but was literally walking free.

500
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.079
He was let out on what they called work project

501
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.200
for twelve hours a day of his twelve month sentence.

502
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:30.200
I was like, what the hell, Yeah, so he's basically

503
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:32.160
free all day long. He just went there to sleep,

504
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:34.440
and of course he had a cushy, nice, you know,

505
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:38.160
unit to himself kind of thing. It was all really

506
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:42.559
kind of disgusting at any rate. When my wheels started clicking,

507
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:45.880
I was like, when did we lose a Hollywood madam

508
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.200
who also didn't have to give up her list? Right?

509
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.599
I looked back and Heidi Flice in nineteen ninety six.

510
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:57.079
Now she's not convicted of trafficking women, which she should

511
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:01.359
have been. She ended up ultimately being in and convicted

512
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:05.599
for tax evasion, but before that she was high up

513
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:09.480
in the media. She ran shows for the media. She

514
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:12.720
wasn't just a matam. That was just a subset to

515
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:14.799
who she really was and what she had going on.

516
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:17.039
So she was on TV, she was in the media,

517
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.640
she was on the radio, She was high up there

518
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.400
with these people, providing women for those that wanted to play.

519
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.480
And that's no different than what Jeffrey was doing. So

520
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.119
you've got this nobody, he's nobody in nineteen ninety four

521
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:32.440
to ninety six, and then all of a sudden, he

522
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:36.160
is now somebody, and he is recruiting. They're bringing in

523
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:39.240
females left and right. I was kind of astonished to

524
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:44.559
see that they weren't really trying to push the narrative

525
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:50.000
that there are people on his list. They would occasionally

526
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:52.839
throw a picture up of Clinton with him, or with

527
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:57.799
Trump with him, or you know, other individuals, but they

528
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:00.519
never really pressed the issue that all these hundreds of

529
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:03.839
girls had been also farmed out to other people, not

530
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:09.000
simply not simply Epstein's delight, right, and then Dershowitz, I

531
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.359
go ahead, I'm really.

532
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:15.119
Inclear on the sources of his income. But now he

533
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:19.039
built his He had some really that'sive oldies. I mean,

534
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:24.079
Arry Lord was really exclusive. He was like a palace

535
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:26.400
on an island, a place in New York.

536
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:29.799
How do you get that? Yeah, how do you get that?

537
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:34.359
With well, he committed the Ponzi scheme, obviously with the

538
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.240
gentleman that went to jail for seven years four hundred

539
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:39.720
and eighty million dollars. And this man sits on their

540
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:43.440
snickers and says he didn't turn Epstein in as part

541
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:47.200
of it. There's a reason he couldn't. He couldn't use

542
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:50.079
Epstein as a fall guy at this point because Epstein

543
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:54.000
was too important to too many high ranking political figures,

544
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:58.359
elite people, royalty. I mean, we saw Prince Andrew is

545
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.519
all wrapped up in the middle of it. There is

546
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:03.880
just so much and the attorney Dirshwitch is up there.

547
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.119
I never slept with a child, but you've got this

548
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.559
woman over here saying I slept with him five or

549
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:11.680
six times. Now, he's a nasty old man. Women don't

550
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:13.759
just up and pop up and say I slept with

551
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:16.920
something nasty unless they truly did that.

552
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:23.599
That's shamers lost comebacks.

553
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:29.960
Mm hmm. Well, he consulted. He for whatever reason, couldn't

554
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.400
be the attorney, so he consulted as part of the

555
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:37.759
team that Epstein had. And Epstein was literally intimidating all

556
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:40.119
of the witnesses. He was having them followed, he was

557
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:42.799
having them stocked, he was having them approached, he was

558
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.519
he had teams of Pi's out there just running amok,

559
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:48.839
trying to intimidate absolutely every single witness in this case.

560
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:53.000
And the fact that the US attorney would not indict

561
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:56.480
him for child trafficking and the things that they really

562
00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:59.799
legitimately should have done, means that they were also told,

563
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:02.000
you are not going to touch this guy. But I

564
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:05.240
think what happened is it became so publicly known that

565
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:08.039
the pressure was on they had to do something, and

566
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.519
we see the FBI pick up the investigation from New

567
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:14.199
York and he is finally convicted, ultimately goes to jail,

568
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:19.559
purportedly commits suicide, but an autopsy shows that his hyoid

569
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.000
bone had been broken in two places, and that it

570
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.840
was impossible from the position that he was hanging off

571
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.239
of his bed to have created that type of a

572
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:31.119
blow to that area of the neck, even in a strangulation,

573
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.400
a slow strangulation would not have broken those bones. So

574
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.800
there is now theories, obviously that he was murdered to

575
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:39.880
keep information silent.

576
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.880
Hice, He's funny because right now Trump was trying to

577
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:49.639
distance himself and conceal evidence and whatnot about englists or anything.

578
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:52.360
But he doesn't hesitate throwing Clinton under the bus.

579
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.119
No, he doesn't. He used to be a huge supporter

580
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:55.880
of Clinton.

581
00:34:57.400 --> 00:34:59.880
How does Trump know Clinton went to the.

582
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:04.840
Well, there's pictures, there's pictures. There's also a groundskeeper that

583
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:09.280
actually saw Clinton there sitting on the porch. So there's

584
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:11.840
definite information. So to say that we just went to

585
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:17.239
this island which only is known for screwing, oh'll say

586
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:22.639
that politely. Yeah, what are you doing over thee? You

587
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.559
didn't touch no little girls? Come on, Clinton, we know

588
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.199
that you like little girls. You had Monica Lewinsky, a

589
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.199
young intern and underneath the table of the Oval office,

590
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:34.199
who are not stooping people? And stop treating us like

591
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:40.320
we are? Yeah, all right, September nineteenth. I think that

592
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:46.039
was the end. Let's see. Oh no, that was not

593
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:49.800
the end, all right. Jeffrey Epstein's this got even more interesting.

594
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.880
Jeffrey Epstein's only client that he had supposedly to make

595
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:56.559
money from in his I don't know if he was

596
00:35:56.599 --> 00:36:01.920
doing stocks or manipul like folio management or what. His

597
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:06.159
only his only client that he had his ad non

598
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:13.400
Cogosi Cogoshi. Now the reason why this is interesting, huh?

599
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.719
And he was involved in he ran contra atfair.

600
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:22.599
He was awesome, right and He also was being looked

601
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:25.719
at by the FBI in connection with Babe Roboso for

602
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:31.360
human trafficking THERFOIA files on it, I went, what the hell,

603
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:34.159
and we talk about Baby Roboso because of the John

604
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:40.960
Walsh stuff, like, the links are just absolutely astronomical. Actually,

605
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:44.639
Baby Roboso was super good friends with Nixon, so Nixon

606
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:48.039
was joining him on his getaways and things like that.

607
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:51.679
So yeah, I just thought that that. And of course

608
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:58.559
I think Adnin is the royalty from India. No, he's

609
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:04.559
little sure, Middle Eastern.

610
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:04.800
Saut In Arabia or Georgia.

611
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:08.079
Oh yes, I believe you might be right, But he's

612
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:11.559
royalty again, just like we these are awesome sick people

613
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:13.880
and it goes all the way up the freaking So

614
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:18.280
basically we've gotten again in the middle of Epstein, politicians, mobs,

615
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:23.519
media's uh syndicates, high ranking political officials. It just it

616
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:25.960
just goes on, you guys. It all fits into scheme.

617
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:28.119
And this is why I look at these things in

618
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:31.679
the Zodiac case, because these people are above reproach. Period.

619
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.320
You're not going to get them until the entire public

620
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:35.199
is pressing for it.

621
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:39.800
Years ago, at Old Sach, we were deposing an attorney

622
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.840
named Robert Radcliffe, and one of the other attorneys asked,

623
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.400
do you know add doc Shogi is closed?

624
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:47.440
Yes, I know add On So.

625
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:49.000
Not only did he know, it was on a first

626
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.159
name basis with him and this ratup guys Crooked as

627
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:57.440
well of course represented my client formerly uh crooked by

628
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:01.199
the name of Henry van Buren, who's who's a scammer went.

629
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:04.559
The federal prison anyway, just a little aside.

630
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.280
Well, and it just really takes me aback because it's

631
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:12.119
clear that these people will use and abuse anybody without

632
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:18.480
means in order to facilitate their needs and desires. And

633
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:22.239
I don't see the Zodiac episodes as anything any different.

634
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.159
They will kill even to protect their stuff.

635
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:29.920
But I think Epstein did have some other powerful clients.

636
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:33.199
I mean, one of them is in the docuseries. I

637
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:36.159
forget his name, but he's a New York businessman, I think,

638
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:38.679
and I think his name starts with an A.

639
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:40.280
Aaron Center or something like that.

640
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:42.880
Yeah, I'm wondering if that's the one that he committed

641
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:45.880
the Ponzi scheme with. And here's crazy. When he was

642
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:48.920
fired from his job on the stock market because he

643
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:53.639
was stealing an embezzling money through his expenses. He was

644
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:57.000
picked up by this guy that committed the Ponzi scheme

645
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.679
on purpose, he said, because he liked that type behavior.

646
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:05.840
He literally went and looked for him because he heard

647
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:09.480
this guy was smart and he's also unethical. He also

648
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:12.840
is unmoral, immoral, and he was exactly what he needed

649
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.840
to complete his Ponzi schemes. So these people are specifically

650
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:18.639
looking for an individual just like this, and I think

651
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.400
that's how he got recruited to that level of he's

652
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:24.760
now the basic madam. I feel like he took over

653
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:26.320
Heidie Feiss's job.

654
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:31.400
Because he never graduated from college, yet he got all

655
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:34.760
these high powerful positions on Wall Street and whatnot.

656
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:38.360
And dealing with He lied, he lied together, he lied

657
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:42.039
and said that he had Yeah, so he's he's the

658
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:45.519
perfect person because he's immoral and unethical and he's going

659
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:49.079
to lie right up the ladder and then becomes one

660
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:52.199
of the richest men in the world, one of the

661
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:56.480
richest men in the world, rubbing elbows with royalty and presidents.

662
00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:01.480
Come on, now, come on, and we know Trump likes

663
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:06.039
young women, right, haven't they all been, you know, extremely

664
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:11.320
young whatever? All right, So September nineteenth, nineteen eighty nine,

665
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:14.719
we have a Jane Doe east side of Houston, estimated

666
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:17.679
to be fourteen to nineteen years old. Her estimated time

667
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:20.320
of death is approximately one to three months at this point,

668
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:26.000
so clearly we're looking at August, June, maybe June somewhere

669
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:29.719
around there. June to August. They're suspecting that she had

670
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:34.880
died or September. I point out Jack was in the

671
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.679
area for an unnoticed amount of time in nineteen eighty nine,

672
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:41.519
so he's back and forth to Texas. October seventh, nineteen

673
00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:45.280
eighty eight. Twenty twenty two year old Suzanne Rene Richardson

674
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:50.360
in Cassa Delmark Condominiums is a missing person. I'm not

675
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:52.519
sure why this one ended up in here other than

676
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:56.199
I was, you know, cross connecting some donal last condominium car.

677
00:40:56.320 --> 00:41:03.719
The car the twelfth victim card from the Zodiac had condominiums,

678
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.760
I think so. I think so, but I couldn't narrow

679
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:10.840
it down because Cassa del Mar has condominiums all over

680
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:15.480
the place, even all over the world. So basically, a

681
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:18.480
sleeping coworker in a room above the lobby heard a stream,

682
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:20.840
so she must have been working at the CASA del

683
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:24.599
Mar and a coworker that was sleeping in a room

684
00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:26.960
above the lobby heard a stream and a slamming car

685
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.159
door at six thirty am, then another screen before hearing

686
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:33.320
the car drive away. So disappeared from her job while

687
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:37.519
working in the lobby of the condominiums, which is kind

688
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.360
of again that's reminiscent of Donna Lass going missing from

689
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:46.320
her work the Sahara Casino. Gabriel Soda was thought to

690
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:48.480
have had a connection to this case, but suffered an

691
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:51.519
apparent drug overdose. Her shoe was found in the parking

692
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:54.280
lot and scratches on the lobby door. Her body has

693
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:59.119
not been found, so she's still listed as missing. What

694
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.199
time do we have? Ten forty three? All right, so

695
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:05.360
Christmas in nineteen eighty eight, still at the Curry House,

696
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:09.519
Jack and the family we see here Don, his brother

697
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.639
is visiting for Christmas. Of course he was also Don

698
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:15.920
was also listed as living in Roseville in nineteen eighty

699
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:19.719
per Jack's paperwork, so they are probably living close to

700
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:21.760
each other at this point, but he was originally in

701
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:27.039
Riverside for most of his time in California. February fifth

702
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:29.079
of nineteen eighty nine, we see that Jack is back

703
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:32.599
in Texas. He's taking a picture of his mom's house,

704
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:36.159
which to my to my belief is that he purchased

705
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:41.760
this house for his mother based on Dennis's recollection, so

706
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:45.639
he's here. We also we're also seeing developed film from

707
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:49.639
May of nineteen eighty nine where Jack is with the

708
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:53.920
family in Texas again at a barbecue. And this maybe

709
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:56.679
Easter in April or March, because the tag on the

710
00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:00.320
back of it says May of nineteen eighty nine, and

711
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:02.280
you can see it's a family function and get together.

712
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:05.519
And as I'd indicated, he's usually there for Easter. So

713
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:09.360
we are seeing him back in Texas via his own pictures,

714
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.480
and this picture says, oh, can I read it? It's

715
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:22.280
very February fifth, nineteen eighty nine something covered. This is

716
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:24.559
basically the property and they ended up moving a mobile

717
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:29.000
home onto it, and an approximately Easter time on April

718
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.079
fifth and nineteen eighty nine, we had thirty seven year

719
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:34.800
old Valente m Garcia. However, I'm going to caution that

720
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.679
the finale note to Tim Miller indicated he did not

721
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:41.519
kill anybody Hispanic, so this is likely somebody else because

722
00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:43.880
I tend to believe when he says he didn't do something.

723
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.800
It's the did he do something thing part that I question.

724
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:50.719
She was killed on Bee Creek Road in Willis, Texas.

725
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.480
She was originally from Houston, Texas. She was shot numerous

726
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:57.480
times at that location. And of course I had just

727
00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:04.480
indicated Tim Miller know hispanics, Oh my gosh. Then the

728
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:08.400
murders just pick up here, pick up here. So we

729
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:12.679
have another another set of what they refer to as

730
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:15.880
the stoneman murders, only this time it's in Bombay, India.

731
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:18.360
Or I'm sorry, this time it's in Calcutta, India. So

732
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:22.239
the first one was in Bombay, India, and basically they're

733
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.320
stoning to death homeless people. I did not map quest

734
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:27.920
this to say how far they were apart, right, But

735
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:30.679
it sometimes I feel like some of this stuff was

736
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:36.159
done just to sell newspapers, just to sell hype, or

737
00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:39.639
to distract from something political that's going on, Like there's

738
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:43.119
always it seems like it's always coinciding with something that's

739
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:47.079
saying look over here, not here. And meanwhile the medias

740
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:50.039
and the syndicates are making mass amounts of money off

741
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:55.079
of running these stories. Then that's that this is four

742
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:59.119
years apart too. So what we've got a serial killer.

743
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.079
If we suppor pose that one person did this, he

744
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:04.320
took a break for four years, came back, did it again,

745
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.079
and then never did it again or before, it just

746
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.199
seems rather odd. I'm just gonna go out today and

747
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:12.480
kill twelve homeless people with rocks and then go back

748
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:14.519
to my normal life for four years and then pop

749
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:18.000
back up in another location and kill more people with rocks.

750
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:24.280
Very strange. Nineteen eighty nine, Anna, Marie Phelps and Daniel

751
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:27.760
Lauer went missing driving Colonial Parkway, Virginia. Here we've got

752
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:31.679
another couples gone missing. Bodies were found on a nearby

753
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:34.920
logging road. A month later. Law enforcement dear ized suspect

754
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.679
posed his officer to get couples to pull over again.

755
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:42.679
September nineteenth, nineteen eighty nine, fourteen to nineteen year old

756
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:47.280
Jane Doe, number four, east side of Houston, Texas estimated, Oh,

757
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:49.639
I've already gone over this one. Why did this end

758
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.800
up back in here? Let me go backwards and see

759
00:45:52.800 --> 00:46:00.519
what I did wrong? U? Oh yeah, so September October, Oh,

760
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:02.679
I see what I did wrong. I have it in

761
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:05.440
the wrong location there. I'll have to make that change.

762
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:09.159
Because she died in eighty nine, not eighty eight, and

763
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:11.920
I had her in the eighty eight series. All Right,

764
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:17.079
gottped October thirty first, nineteen eighty nine. Twenty to thirty

765
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:22.559
year old unidentified male skeletal remains, Nakouska Street again. All right,

766
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:28.320
March eighteenth of nineteen ninety. Yay, we're in ninety. This

767
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.199
is the Gardnerville heist. I don't have a lot of

768
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:33.920
information on it. Harriet really honestly believes that this group,

769
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:38.920
whoever runs the Zodiac group and the people involved, committed

770
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:42.360
this heist some very high end art, I mean million

771
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.599
dollars worth, millions of dollars. She thinks it was a

772
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:50.400
compilation of an insurance job, make somebody pay. Somebody wanted

773
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:54.079
this art. They sole several pieces, and there was a

774
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:57.039
security guard involvement, And I think that's why she's trying

775
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:01.000
to kind of tie it together with Jack. I'm not sure,

776
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:03.119
but we know that we're going to see another separation

777
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:06.840
here very shortly between him and Nora. So I don't

778
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:08.559
know what's going on, but he ends up back in

779
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:12.519
Texas again. So March twentieth of nineteen ninety, we have

780
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.599
thirty years of age Beverly Sue Demmler, reported missing in

781
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:21.239
Harris County, Texas. Human skeleton remains found by hunters on

782
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:24.840
November tenth, nineteen ninety one, are identified in two thousand

783
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:27.760
and one by dental records, and she died from blunt

784
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:34.639
forced trauma to the head. Right now July of nineteen

785
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:36.800
ninety we can see that Nora and him are still together.

786
00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:40.119
Via this picture. Jack is traveling again. This picture shows

787
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:44.159
it says metro city. I tried researching and looking this up.

788
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:48.079
I did see a metro city in the Grand Canyon area.

789
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:52.679
It says our trip. This could potentially be Arizona, or

790
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:56.840
Atlanta or even Texas. So I found metro city in

791
00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:00.320
three different states, but all states that I say Jack

792
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:06.760
is possibly connected to. Nineteen ninety ancestry dot com shows

793
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:10.119
Jack's address as a PO box as seven five seven

794
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:14.480
two to one, Dallas, Texas. So why does he have

795
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:18.039
I've said this before, he keeps and carries po boxes

796
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:23.320
in Oklahoma, in Texas in strange locations obviously that he's

797
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:26.000
not living in. But he's having things mailed to them.

798
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:29.639
And what's being mailed, you know, one of one of

799
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.320
the uh one of the crime shows that I watch

800
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:37.559
actually implicates a travel company as being an undercover death

801
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:41.880
squad basically, and their their operatives would pick up their

802
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.840
kills and the information on those kills at a PO

803
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:50.039
box at one of those mailbox like et cetera type facilities,

804
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.559
definitely not inside the post office, but in one of

805
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:54.480
those other ones, and that's where they would go to

806
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:57.840
pick up the sheets of information on who they were

807
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:00.239
supposed to kill. So I thought that was interesting. Is

808
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.239
Jack keeping peo boxes all over the place, And a

809
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:05.880
lot of these communications, especially when we come up here

810
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:08.400
to the John Walsh ones, you're gonna hear about po boxes.

811
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:12.400
He's act the author of the letter is specifically talking

812
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:14.639
about owning a PO box. So all of it again

813
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:18.760
runs in tandem. Oh well, we were pretty much thirty

814
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:20.960
seconds out from finishing this off. Are you going to

815
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:22.360
be back at one, Nolan?

816
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.519
You guys, I'll be back at one all right.

817
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.719
Well, everybody take care, have a wonderful weekend. We will

818
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:33.239
see you next Friday. Thank you, Nolan.

819
00:49:34.960 --> 00:50:00.280
Okay, bye bye. Yeah,