Feb. 8, 2025

Keddie, Walsh and Murdock Connection

Keddie, Walsh and Murdock Connection

New solve from Harriette Sucher in the ATKID case on the “Forced Bussing” envelope and letter. We will finish discussing the Keddie Cabin murders before moving into the murder of John Walsh’s son. This will take us down the hole of America’s Most...

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New solve from Harriette Sucher in the ATKID case on the “Forced Bussing” envelope and letter. We will finish discussing the Keddie Cabin murders before moving into the murder of John Walsh’s son. This will take us down the hole of America’s Most Wanted, Rupert Murdock, and the connections with the FBI. John Walsh receives Zodiac style letters in the near future, and Megan Walsh asks Harriette to solve a letter found in FBI files of her brother’s death that was written to a Murdock newspaper.

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Good morning, True seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.

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I'd like to welcome Nolan del Campo all the way

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from Santa Cruz today on a beautiful little mini vacation.

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Where'd you go?

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Ah?

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He fell off? All right, let's welcome Harriet's souchet.

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Yeah, good morning. How's it going good?

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Going pretty good? Can't complain. We've got another sunny day

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ahead of us after another day of storming this wacky

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California weather. Well, go ahead.

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So I was gonna say, yeah, I was scheduled have

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a sudden quick surjourney, and then I was wonder how

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we're gonna get down there anyways, And then he thought

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it was pouring rain. Roads are falling apart, going towards us. No,

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my so, yeah, it's kind of good thing it didn't happen, right, What.

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Do you mean the room falling apart?

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Oh, we've been their local life flooding everywhere from Hopland

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Grade all the way from all the Hopland area all

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the way down to Sonoma homes. For following into the

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river would have been a good time to go.

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No, not at all. So we're basically eroding underneath all

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this water that we're getting.

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Oh yeah, everything's just I have a friend who's in

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Lake County. Hotever's back and forth between here and Lake County,

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so that I've never seen so much water on both

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sides the Highway twenty and Highway twenty nine. It's just unreal.

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Oh my goodness. I feel like that was a commonplace

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that would flood back when I lived in the Napa area.

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All right, well, so let's go ahead and start with

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our show. We'll wait to see if no One picks

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back up and catches on with us again. I'm going

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to start with some YouTube comments, and I have some

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questions for you, Harriet. So basically, Dubbs at Dubstep Kid

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eight oh one says thank you for all your work.

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I really appreciate when people come out and say that,

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because I think very few people understand that I am

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doing this on my own time and my own time,

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and this is a lot of work. So I'd like

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to give a shout out to anybody who throws appreciation

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our way, because Harriet as well has spent thousands and

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thousands of hours doing what she does. Nolan has been

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with us time after time after time, and in fact,

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he's actually been around and one of my close friends

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since I started this case, well well before I started

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this case in two thousand and nine, so he's been

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following me every step of the way. And I welcome

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both of you. Thank you both for your participation always.

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I did get another YouTube comment from a gentleman at

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Kasbos six seven one seven, and it said we need

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to talk. So I checked out his profile on YouTube

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and I see that he has a two part video

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on John Benet Ramsey, And of course I did reach

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out to him, and he did send me a massive

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emails with what looks like he's trying to write a book.

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But he gave me all this information which was really

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kind of hard to decipher. I had a question for you, Harry,

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because he indicated that he believed that the Santa Claus

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was the murderer of John Benny Ramsay. However, he states

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that it's a Bill and I don't recall what the

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name was. I wasn't familiar with it. I hadn't seen

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it before. But wasn't Bill White the Santa Claus at

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the at the Christmas party?

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I really don't recall that. But I just did the

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Santa Claus postcard for the Joan Webster cold case. How

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weird it's called the Santa Claus postcard and a window

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envelope with for George Washington staffs. I could go on

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or not. I just decoded that, and.

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It's running, who is who's that regards?

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It's the Santa Claus postcard that's nineteen eighty one, early

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nineteen eighty two with a lot of cryptic Beard stuff

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on it. And I was able to decode that. So

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it's really weird. You're saying Santa Claus the guy the

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Bill White. There was a lot of things on the

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John Benet Ramsey party and they get together.

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But right, well, we haven't even hit John. We haven't

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even hit John Maney Ramsey yet. But who is this

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the Santa Claus postcard is in regards to the death of.

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Who Joan Webster and it's really huge. But anyways, it's

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really strange that you guys are bringing this up. And

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I said, I just posted that a bu blog.

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Okay, when did Joan Webster die? Do I have her

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in my presentation? Do you know Zodiac?

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William? There's a lot of people who think she's a

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Zodiet victim because of how the card in the postcard

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was sent. I'm sorry the card in a window envelope

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was it? But she's a November twenty eighth, nineteen eighty one,

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and Jack did Jack Killer, but he has a lot

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of information on who did gotcha?

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All right, Well, let's just hop right back into our

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Kevin Kenny cabin murders if we left off last week

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discussing a murder of a family kind of Manson style,

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in a cabin in the middle of nowhere really Plumus County,

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where four individuals were killed. The mother, her son, her

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son's friend, and her daughter had been taken. The youngest

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daughter had been taken and subsequently murdered at a later date,

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or murdered and removed. We're not exactly sure, though One

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of the eyewitnesses has stated he's watched them walk her

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out the back door. Well, welcome, Sideways, there you are, Nolan.

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What's going on?

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Good morning, Nolan?

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Gave morning your sideways.

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Ye give that sideways money of Jack Cyrenson's stamps. Yeah. Yeah.

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As a matter of fact, anyways, let me get back

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to this. It looks like he's still having some technical

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difficulties so we left off. The most widely accepted theory

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involves a love triangle between Martin, Marilyn and Sue. And

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to catch you up with that, Martin was a roommate.

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I believe of wait a minute, Martin, Marilyn and Sue.

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So I believe Martin, yes, was sleeping on the couch

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of Let's see if we can go back and find

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out who what his name is, because now I've lost

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his name even though they actually ruled him out based

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on a polygraph. Let's see. Mamma, mamma, I can't believe. Okay,

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Justin is this son? Father was So Marilyn Smart, Marty's

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wife and mother of Justin, left the husband the day after.

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So supposedly there was supposed to be some love triangle

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between Martin, which was Marilyn's husband's friend that was sleeping

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on the couch, and Sue, which was the woman that

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was killed. It was believed that Martin and Sue were

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having an affair and that Sue was supposedly counseling Maryland

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to leave her husband, who she said was abusive to her.

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When Martin discovered this, he enlisted Bo his friend. Okay,

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So no Martin, Marilynd and Sue a love triangle? How

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is that so? Supposedly Marilyn Okay and Bo his friend

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was the one that was sleeping on the couch, and

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non mob enforcer who had lived with the Smarts and

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mere ten days before the Ketty murders to take Sue

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out of the picture. This would account for Marilyn leaving

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her husband the day of the murder discovery. It would

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also explain why Smart Boy and other sharp boys in

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the adjoining room were spared. Additionally, it gives context to

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Martin's handwritten note that Marilyn gave to the polumist Sheriff's department.

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Some investigators who picked up the case when it reopened

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in twenty thirteen tied the Slains into an even larger plot.

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To Gamberg, it is clear that the DOJ and Thomas

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run Sheriff's Department. DOJ and Thomas run Sheriff's Department cover

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up is the way it sounds. He alleges that Bo

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and Martin fit into a larger drug smuggling scheme that

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involved the federal government. Martin was a known drug dealer

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and Bo was connected to Chicago crime syndicates with financial

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interests in drug distribution. This might explain why the Sacramento

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dj sent two allegedly corrupt organized crime special agents instead

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of agents from the homicide Department. It also provides an

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explanation as to why the two lead suspects were seemingly

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given a free pass and told to leave town by

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Sheriff Thomas. So now we're seeing some type of conspiracy

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here between the FBI, the Sheriff's Department, and the Sacramento

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Department of Justice. Furthermore, it suggests an answer as to

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why this case was handled so sloppily, remains unsolved, and

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is seemingly not a priority to the Sacramento DOJ. What

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is known is that thirty seven year old crime. The

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thirty seven year old crime is far from a cold case,

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as new evidence sheds life on what may have occurred

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at Cabin twenty eight in Kenny, California. Although both Martin

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Smart and Boo Debi are now deceeized, new DNA evidence

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as pointed investigators to other suspects who may have had

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a hand in these murders and who are still alive.

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So now we're talking about again a group of people.

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And it seems to me that if they have DNA

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that points to other people and not to Martin and

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not to bo that these two individuals were given the

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opportunity to skate town for reason. And maybe it is

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because bo was actually somebody who was reporting or informant

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for the FBI says, it's my belief that there were

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more than two people who were involved in the totality

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of the crime, the disposal of the evidence, and the

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abduction of the little girl. Hagwood said, we're convinced that

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there were a handful of people that fit those roles

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who are still alive. Very interesting. We also see down

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here another and I showed you guys last week. So

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I look at this particular crime scene photo and it

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has a particular knife and a particular hammer in it.

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But when we looked at them last week, those that

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knife and that hammer are not the same as we're

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looking at in the other pieces of evidence. So are

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we just being thrown out images again? Are any of

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these actually real or attributed to the murders? Are all

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of them attributed to the murders? I'm not sure because

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they claim to have only found a knife and a hammer,

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and then later found another knife and a hammer, So

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who knows really at this point, I just see that

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the evidence pictures that they're showing are different from one

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to the next. The one inside of this particular picture

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of crime scene murder weapons, the knife does not have

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the actual Oh I don't know what the technical name

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is for that ring that goes around the edge between

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the blade and the actual handle, but that's missing. We

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see the knife as much larger, not the same shape.

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It looks like it has a wood handle with rivets

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in it. And then the hammer itself also appears to

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be a bit different. Oh wait a minute, So I

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picked up a couple other statements that said, regardless of

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the murder, scene was a vicious, violent and bloody one.

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Doug Thomas, Plumus County sheriff at the time of the murders,

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stated whoever did this, and there was more than one

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person had to have blood all over them. The murder

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weapons were believed to have been left at the scene.

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So here, I think is where they're saying, and that's

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where I got this picture. Some kitchen knives and a

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claw hammer. Later, a second bloody knife was found a

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little ways away in a trash bin behind the Kenny

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General Store. A Daisy eight to eighty pellet rifle is

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also thought to have been used in the attack. I

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hadn't heard about anybody being shot by pellets, but they

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would know it. Goes on to say that Justin Easan Smart,

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twelve years old, was interviewed. At first, he claimed to

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only have dreamed about the murders. Interesting later he confirmed

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that he'd witnessed the murders. Some have suggested this means

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Justin was involved in some way, but I see it

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as a traumatized young boy who saw something horrible and

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didn't know how to process it. At one point, Justin

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was put under hypnosis and he gave a description of

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the suspects, two men that he'd supposedly seem sue speaking

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with and that would have been these composites back here.

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So this is the composite so that Justin smart gave

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let's see, one had a mustache, the other was clean

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shaven with long hair. Justin said that when John and

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Dana returned from their party, they began arguing with the

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men and the confrontation became violent. So again we're not

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sure where these two men pop up out of if

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they're the actual people who gave the rides home to

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John and Dana, because they were said to have been

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hitchhiking home and it could have been the actual driver

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or individuals who gave them a lift. Justin said that

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Tina returned home a short time later and was escorted

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outside by one of the men, although some sources say

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that he said Tina was already home sleeping, so his

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story's kind of up in the air and changing and

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we're not sure what to make of it. Is basically

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where they're going. The two men then killed Sue, John,

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and Dana. The sketches were put out to the public,

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but they never resulted in any definite suspects or identifications.

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I noted that the murders actually caused people to move

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out of the area, the small town population being reduced

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to approximately sixty people. And then we see PG and

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E blast of pipeline right through this ghost town. So

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I had a couple of people talking up in my head.

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There anybody have any Yes, we can welcome back.

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I had lots of difficulties, lots of Wi Fi on

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Now I'm on my phone.

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Oh wow, you've got great, great sound for future reference.

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pH do either of you have any any last last comments.

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We're gonna head right on out of the Kenny Cabin murders.

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Is it alleged that they most of the weapons were

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founded the scene, but they think some were taken away

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from the scene, correct, Yeah?

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Yeah, and that and that really kind of boggles me

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because why take one or two away when you left

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primarily all the rest of them at the crime scene.

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I mean, which one said go ahead.

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The other thing is that the boys change their stories. Yes, first,

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and then then they said they saw the guys right.

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Yes, it went from I dreamt it to uh, I

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saw it to ah, I'm not sure. Yeah, there was

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definitely some differences. But I just to kind of explain

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that in the last information I was given is that

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if Justin Smart, the son of one of the accused suspects,

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which he actually looks like he was cleared through d

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DNA and polygraph and other such things, even though he

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purportedly had written a letter to his wife here and

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here's the thing, he may have said he was responsible

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for those four deaths, not in the essence he actually

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killed these individuals, but that he was the one that

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set this entire thing up because he lived next door

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to this particular family.

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Yes, he was involved, obviously, and three yes, and he

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admitted it.

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He admitted his involvement. He didn't say he did the

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stabbing or whatever, but he said he caused it.

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He basically said that the cost of her love was

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for people's lives. Wow, my browsers lost connection in the world.

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I can see your pictures, but I can't see you.

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I can hear it.

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I have very interesting so I have lost my video here.

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I'm going to try to pop out and come right

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back in. That's crazy.

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Yeah, hey people, Greetings from Santa Cruz, California.

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Well, greetings from Yukaya, California.

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Oh you're in Yukai. Now, are you still in the hospital?

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Apparently learning more about these woves that happened to me

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quite anyways, that's not what we're here for.

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I'm back, sorry about that, guys. All right, well that's

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gonna so. So you were mentioning that Justin or I'm sorry,

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Martin Smart had actually taken part in it to some degree,

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while he admitted to his wife that the cost of

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her love was four people. And I think that maybe,

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I mean, even that could be interpreted by the fact

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that she purportedly left him the day the murders occurred,

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so she basically decided she and maybe it was because

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he became a suspect. Who knows why she decided to

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lead that particular day. But the statement that her love

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he caught he attempted to uh or he lost her

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love due to these four murders, or that was the

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cost of her love could simply mean that this particular

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scenario cost them their relationship, even though he hadn't done anything.

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We don't know what the context of the rest of

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that letter is, correct. H All right, Harriet, did you

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have any last minute words on Kenny.

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I'm suspecting that it has something to do with the

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mob connections and somebody knew stuff they weren't supposed to know.

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The kids were witnesses to something. They probably weren't fully

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aware of. And it's just really sad that so many

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people did lose their lives over something that, you know,

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maybe shouldn't have happened, you know.

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A romantic thing too.

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I think maybe the woman, the mom that got killed,

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maybe she rejected one of the guys, well, either the.

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Neighbor or one of the killers. I'm thinking the neighbor.

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I mean, if if Martin smart is, you know, his

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friend bo is there for ten days previous to them occurring.

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He's connected to the mob, he's an informant. Supposedly they're

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told to skidatle and get out of town. So they're

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given the free right to just walk away from this

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entire mess instead of hanging around and be investigated for it.

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There's I don't know, to me, it throws me back

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into that whole conspiracy theory because PG and he comes

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through and blasts through their you know, gas line through

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an area that was once or it was basically kind

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of like a camping town, if you will. It's up

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in the middle of the hills. And of course this

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happens at cabins and it reduces the population to about

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sixty people, giving them kind of free rein to just

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blast their lines right on through. It sounds like.

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Why would law enforcement encourage suspects to get out of town?

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You never heard of that, yep, never heard of that.

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So somebody didn't want them who knew something to be around.

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I think to talk about it. And again, Martin smart

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evidently passed a polygraph test and they dated. Now they've

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got DNA, and that DNA matches other individuals, But I

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don't know if they know who those individuals are more

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than they know that that DNA does not match Martin

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and Bow. I have no idea to me. It just

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sounded like another you hear about these kind of things

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when they'll go in and decimate an entire community. Now,

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typically this is going to happen in some third world

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country so that they can come in and either ravage

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the natural resources or you know, do what they want

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to do, like blasting through these pipelines, and they have

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no problem killing people and putting people engraves in order

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to facilitate their means or build a resort, or build

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a resort. Exactly there you go, all right, Harriet. That

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brings us to your stopped force bussing solve from three

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to one nineteen eighty one. The envelope you sent me

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here recently, which was a new solve you just completed.

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I'm going to read the email that you sent me,

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and then I'm going to let you read that actual solve.

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So you said he in a NAT. The FBI files

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say the envelope information had dan Berry Mint Norwalk, Connecticut

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want ads Classic in the Cleveland Plain Dealer. Now going

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back to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, do we know who

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owns the Cleveland Playing Dealer the.

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Same Portland or again the same people own the Portland

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Oregonian and all mess of other papers. Was I saw that,

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I said, I'm onto something.

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Well, yeah, because the Cleveland Cleveland Plaine Dealer I believe

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was in that list of the inserts that were included

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in the force bussing letters. As anyways, we know that

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this same time period March nineteen eighty one, AD was

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in paper Daniel, please call home. We did not sh

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We did not show about that. I'm not sure we

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did the show about that. This appears to be another

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flexibility to Jimmy Carter and Jack is recapping what others

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said that he's okay, he's sighting off as no one again.

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But what added angel number four four four, which is reassurance,

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support and protection. I wish I could find the very

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clear Force Stop Bussing letter where I saw a camouflage

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JA over the f you had found it in twenty eighteen,

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which you've seen Jack do this often. He brings up

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an uh ina, a secret po box in a latitude

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longitude zero location North clear Lake, Texas. We know he

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had a zillion of them. FYI that is League City area.

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Oh really, well, we're going to get this. This is

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going to get interesting. And NASA ops were there nineteen

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sixties on. Anyway, Oh, have a great weekend, ary, Harriet.

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You want to read that song for us?

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Ok? I don't have it before me, but I know

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what it's saying here.

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I'll read it. I'll read it and then you can

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and then you can you can, yeah, decipher it for us.

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So it says mister carter Io three one eighty one

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six fifty six fifty seven AM two oh nine, Woodland Drive, Plains,

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Georgia fac Simile three C. C. King Bush still Alive

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seventy eight n N no Mindnescio. I think you referred

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to as Jack Danto made a deal switching Richard Nixon

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Class eleven forty four, Dan Cooper TNF California?

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What is tn F BAJO national forus. He's trying to

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quickly recap about what happened to the victims that you

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know during that era, the Dan the Dan B. Cooper,

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you know, jumping out of the plane. So he's referring

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to Donna West and swearing in there the remains there.

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Okay, and then the Holy See Archbishop Pope John Paul,

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the second AA what is AA?

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Alcohol Alcoholics anonymous? UC Davis though, So he's trying to

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quickly recap, and I'm shocked, okay.

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Okay, I just what right right right now? Before I

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have you describe, I'm just trying to get the message

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out there. So alcoholics anonymous saves sick MK ultra h

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ill me if want used the Cleveland Dealer newspaper Business reply,

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first class, eighteen cent envelope. Send it over by mail

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under Ina Flova Barnett top secret at location PO Box,

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North clear Lake, Texas. I'm four four four okay, no one.

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So that got really interesting because we know we know

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Flova is back in clear Lake. As a matter of fact,

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during this time, frame. You're stating that there is some

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type of a PO box in clear Lake, Texas. And

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then that clear Lake, Texas PO box is in the

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vicinity of League City, which is where the Tim Miller

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stuff takes place.

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Exactly I was when I was doing this one, which

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was a little bit of a surprise. I said, well,

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this is next one I'm going to do no matter what. Anyways,

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what I do is I see, you know, once I'm

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clearing away all these puzzle pieces, I see what's left,

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and I thought, I know Plova Barnett. I said, oh

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my god, he's bringing up about his mom and this

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one that's excilling cream coming to the surface. Was right.

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Well, and even more interesting is that we're in nineteen

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eighty one when this message is sent March of nineteen

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eighty one. It's nineteen eighty four. I believe that Tim

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Miller's daughter is killed, correct, I want to say that

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last of the year, just within a couple of years really,

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So he's already in the area, already probably setting up

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whatever this is going to be. And we'll see where

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this goes, and we'll see. But Laura Miller I believe

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dies in nineteen eighty four, which is very very close

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to the timeframe of this particular message. All right, well,

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let's see what else we said here, So Cleveland Plain Dealer,

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that goes back to another newspaper once again. He's talking

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about the archbishop. Like you said, he's recapping the Dan

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Cooper stuff in the Tahoe National Forest. Let's see top

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secret location the PEO box. So it didn't actually give

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a number for the PEO box.

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I tried looking in vain, but I said, well, it's

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a reasonable is this kind of top secret? And you

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got to understand it's also that area had the Johnson

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Space Center, the stuff Robert Abel worked, so a lot

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of classified things that part of Texas. Well, it fairly

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has some kind of post office box from there.

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Well, and we know he speaks the Tim Miller suspect

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of the Laura Millers suspect of Laura Miller's death, and

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many of what he calls the I forty five killings

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in the League City deaths. Does actually call out that

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Abel is not the devil that League City is searching for.

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So I really don't know where to go with all

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of that information, but I'm sure once we get to

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that letter, you'll make some sense out of that for

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us area. Yes, all right, So that brings us to

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00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:52.000
May twenty ninth of nineteen eighty one. We have Carmen

461
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:54.559
Rivera who is killed at Hayward. It is on the

462
00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:57.720
murder map of Sandy Betts, and I didn't have any

463
00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:01.480
information on it, and it kind of then flips flops

464
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:06.599
back and forth. I believe this is June sixth, nineteen

465
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:10.039
eighty one. In Florence, Italy, they have another Lover's Lane murder.

466
00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:12.759
So there's this set or series of lovers Lane murders

467
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:16.440
that occurs over in Florence, Italy. Not that I necessarily

468
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.400
think that the Zodiac or Jack was responsible for this,

469
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:22.079
but could the group be responsible for whatever it is

470
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:26.240
that's going on here? Very likely, it says Foggy and

471
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:30.559
Duke di Nuccio on June sixth, June nineteen eighty one,

472
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:34.160
he's a warehouseman. Giovanni Foggy, thirty years old and shop

473
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:38.200
assistant Carmela de Nuccio, twenty one, were shot and stabbed

474
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:44.200
near Scandici, where the engaged couple both lived. Denuccio's body

475
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:46.400
was pulled out of the car and the killer cut

476
00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:49.880
out her cubic area with a notched knife. The next morning,

477
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:53.759
a young voyeur paramedic Enzo Spiletti thirty, spoke about the

478
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:58.920
murder before the corpses had been discovered. Oooh, very interesting.

479
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:02.720
He spent three months in jail and was charged with

480
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:06.279
the murder before the perpetrator exonerated him by killing again.

481
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:09.400
Wow, how did you know that?

482
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:13.680
Exactly? So you have somebody who has inside information. This

483
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.640
just like brings up John Mark Carr and you know,

484
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:22.519
Henry Lee Lucas, these individuals being given information. But yeah,

485
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:25.359
so this this guy knows about it before the couple's

486
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:28.480
bodies are discovered, and actually almost takes the wrap for

487
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:30.960
it before the killer actually kills again. And I would

488
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:33.319
say these are all, you know, several months apart. It's

489
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:35.759
not as if they're doing these back to back or

490
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:38.759
within a very limited timeframe. I think that this stuff

491
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:40.920
over in Florence, Illaly has been going on for a

492
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:45.599
minute hereof and this is the one we've been waiting for.

493
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:50.400
July twenty seventh, nineteen eighty one, Adam John Walsh Sears

494
00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:55.640
he's purportedly kidnapped from Sears in Via Beach, Florida. And

495
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:57.960
then we have some involvement with Otis tool and Henry

496
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:02.000
Lee Lucas's suspects. Again, this circle just doesn't I mean,

497
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:05.519
it absolutely blows my mind that we keep wrapping around

498
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:08.559
these same individuals as if their patsy's are going to

499
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:11.680
continually be almost the same people over and over again.

500
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:14.480
They tried to close a couple hundred cases on Henry

501
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:17.599
Lee Lucas, who again had inside information just like the

502
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:24.119
what they say the paramedic Enzo Spiletti, he has information

503
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:27.400
before the bodies are even found that these individuals are dead.

504
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.839
And we have Henry Lee Lucas who has information inside

505
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.559
information to crimes that he didn't commit, that he couldn't

506
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.440
have possibly read in any newspaper, which meant somebody was

507
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:38.920
feeding that to him as well. Seems like that that

508
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:45.640
whole tangent of information inside information continues on and on

509
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:50.599
and on with these particular cases. So it says how

510
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.640
did John Walsh's son Adam die? On July twenty seventh,

511
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.480
nineteen eighty one, Adam John Walsh was abducted from a

512
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.400
Sears department store in Florida with his mother. Reeve had

513
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:02.680
left him near the gaming area where he watched older

514
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:05.319
boys play video games and advance to a nearby store

515
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:09.039
to continue shopping. Barely within ten minutes, she returned for him,

516
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:12.119
but he was nowhere to be found. Frandick to learn

517
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:14.519
that her son had gone missing. She checked with security,

518
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.359
and Cambridge footage revealed that Adam followed a group of

519
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:20.519
older boys and seemingly got kidnapped from outside the mall.

520
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.519
The Walsh finished his graduation after he moved to Florida, Florida,

521
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.000
where he married Reeve, his longtime girlfriend, and their first son, Adam,

522
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.240
was born in nineteen seventy four. Tragedy stuck in his

523
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:35.640
life when he lost his son to a gruesome murder,

524
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.279
and in two thousand and eight, the late serial killer

525
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:43.000
Otis Tool was officially named as Adam's killer. So is

526
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:47.000
that your information, Harriet, is that Otis Tool was named

527
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:47.640
the murderer?

528
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:56.319
Ridiculous information? But I think that to just yeah, they

529
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:00.240
just tried to name him, but he's not the or

530
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:02.759
definitely not the goer.

531
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:09.640
Now the Walsh has launched a massive away anyway, Yeah,

532
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:11.839
that's what it sounds like to me. They and how

533
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.839
is it that they picked o'tools somebody so closely related

534
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.319
to Henry Ley Lucas that we then see, I think

535
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:21.279
sometime here in the nineteen eighties that the entire Texas

536
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.599
Ranger system attempts to allow Henry Lee Lucas to take

537
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:29.160
culpability for a couple hundred crimes he obviously didn't commit.

538
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.319
And even that became a scandal in which a either

539
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:35.599
a public or I'm sorry, a district attorney or an

540
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:38.880
attorney in one of the cases had called out Henry

541
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.400
Lee Lucas as lying about having committed that crime and

542
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:44.960
that he had inside information nobody else could have had

543
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:47.079
and how did he get it, which ultimately called out

544
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:50.920
the Texas Rangers who actually paraded Henry Lee Lucas around

545
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:55.319
on TV to everyone trying to actually massively close over

546
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:59.039
two hundred cases across the United States. And what was

547
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:02.440
their purpose for them, Like, what's their involvement that they

548
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:06.079
want cases not only their own cases, but other cases

549
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:10.240
of farm closed on this same individual. Very very mind boggly,

550
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:15.519
the Walsh has launched what's that corruption?

551
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:19.480
Exactly, systemic corruption everywhere.

552
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:23.400
Says the Walsh has launched a massive hunt for their son. Disturbingly,

553
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:26.519
on August tenth, nineteen eighty one, his severed head so

554
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:31.519
now we've got bifurcation once again, we've got mutilation, bifurcation,

555
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.559
removal of body parts, which we've just been talking about.

556
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:38.160
Last week, severed head was discovered by two fishermen in

557
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.960
a drainage canal in Vero Beach, Florida, and his body

558
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:45.359
was never found. Over the years of criminals, yeah, over

559
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:48.519
the years, criminals, not only Otis Elwood Tool, but serial

560
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:51.559
killer Henry Lee Lucas, who also speculated to have been

561
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:55.279
involved in the murder. So I had to pop these

562
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:57.440
guys up. You got to see this. I mean, these

563
00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:58.480
people are tools.

564
00:32:58.640 --> 00:32:58.799
Now.

565
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:02.839
Of course Otis old two Otis Tools. Last name is Tool.

566
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:05.759
But I'm telling you, if you see these individuals speak,

567
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:12.000
they are tools. So basically we have Otis Tool at

568
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:15.960
the top here, says an American drifter and serial killer

569
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:18.240
who was convicted of six counts of murder. Like his

570
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:22.039
companion Henry Lucas, Tool made confessions which he later recanted,

571
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:26.240
which resulted in murder convictions. So they literally were convicted

572
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:28.319
of crimes they didn't commit because they lied about it.

573
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:30.559
And they are literally just running around. I mean, we

574
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:33.279
can see the two of these guys here hanging out together, like,

575
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:35.720
how is one of these responsible for John Walsh and

576
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:38.000
the other responsible for the other two hundred murders that

577
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.920
I likely have in my presentation that I claim as

578
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:45.519
part of this group. How big of a coincidence is that?

579
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:53.319
Just a dumb, big cointion because I see this all

580
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:54.640
the time, just like you do.

581
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:59.720
Unreal, right, And then of course they've given us some hand.

582
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:01.720
And I just want to read for you a second

583
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:05.599
something that Toole wrote to show you that he's a tool.

584
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:11.239
He says, Cannibal's posing because he can't spell quizzing. For me,

585
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:15.639
the greater thrill is when I wraps and kill, slicing

586
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.599
with my knife to find a woman's life, and I

587
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:24.400
penetrate the hide to find out what's inside. There's only

588
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:29.920
blood and shit, so I cut around. I think that's

589
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.039
supposed to say each, but it starts with an F.

590
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:36.440
Each tit titty is so nice. Oh my goodness, Now

591
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:41.639
there's writing it right over the top of this. When

592
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:51.719
surrude up fried with rice, yes, pretty girls and sweet,

593
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:55.840
but I lust for their meat prepared as a barbecue.

594
00:34:56.440 --> 00:35:01.960
When down with cold mountain dew, a washed down Yeah,

595
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:03.199
this man cannot spell.

596
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.440
I have to take off early today.

597
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:12.159
All right, Nolan, thank you for being here. We'll see

598
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.320
you next week. Take care next week for sure. Thank you,

599
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:25.480
debdificated to the only man who loves and understands me,

600
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:29.599
Nathan Cole. Oh have you ever heard of a Nathan Cole?

601
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:38.519
Uh? No, let us have done.

602
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:42.280
I know, I know, but I like to know what

603
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:46.000
he was convicted of. If they stated he was actively convicted,

604
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:49.719
let us be united forever in the hands of death,

605
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:53.320
beware the hands of death. And he has drawn a

606
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:57.639
hand on this little communication. This is definitely not Zodiac

607
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:03.599
style writing. It is clearly very deteriorated handwriting, very low level,

608
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:08.280
uneducated handwriting. And his little doodles are even worse. But

609
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:10.559
if you see his signature, my goodness, this man is

610
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:15.199
barely capable of writing cursive. Looks like a fourth grader. Actually,

611
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.199
all right, so I did find another It says otis

612
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.280
tool letter to John Walsh. So now we have this connection,

613
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.519
and maybe this is where they assumed that he was involved.

614
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:31.199
I'm guessing that this is dear mister Walsh, but it's

615
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:34.800
the institution. It's being written out of Florida State Prison.

616
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:40.360
It gives the actual prisoner number Otis Edward Toole. On nine.

617
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.360
He can't even make a date sequence correctly. Good Lord,

618
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:53.000
he does twelve comma six comma eighty nine. So seven

619
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:56.519
years after, I mean, what did we say this was?

620
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:59.480
This is eighty one? So no, eight years after, he writes,

621
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.400
dear miss. Now, let me see if you guys can

622
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:05.400
perceive this letter to have any inclination that the man

623
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.840
committed the murder, because when I read it, that's not

624
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.119
what I felt. Says I was glad to get a

625
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:15.840
Christmas card from you. So John Walsh sends tool a

626
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:19.159
Christmas card. I'm a little confused. To a man that

627
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:25.039
supposedly killed, beheaded and the remains, the entire body of

628
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:26.920
your son has gone missing, you're gonna send him a

629
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:34.519
Christmas card. I don't know about all that. No, it says,

630
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.800
I hope you has a merry Christmas and a happy

631
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:41.159
New Year. My name is Otis Edward Toole. I am

632
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:45.039
forty two years old. I am from Jacksonville, Florida. Mister

633
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:51.039
Nathan Cole, I will I will write you if you

634
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:55.840
will help me out with a little money. It has

635
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:59.360
to be in a money order, Okay, so maybe this

636
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:04.280
card from this Nathan Cole that he's asking for help from.

637
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.480
They tried to redact it. See again, I don't understand

638
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.320
why they do such lame redactions. So they react to

639
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:12.679
who the dear mister is that this is being written to,

640
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:15.360
But then they blatantly leave the name wide open in

641
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:18.920
the middle of the context. Mister Nathan Cole, I will

642
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:23.719
write you you will help me out with a little money.

643
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:27.519
It has to be in a money order. I will

644
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:32.639
tell you my lights, my light show, mister Nathan Cole.

645
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:37.000
I would like to have a picture of you. Mister

646
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:43.639
Nathan Cole, I will write soon. Your friend. Well, he

647
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.880
started to say your friend, and then he corrects that

648
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.920
and writes your friend's otis Toole. But it says this

649
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.119
is a letter to John Walsh, at least on the Internet.

650
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:59.079
I mean I've pulled where I actually retrieved this information from.

651
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:03.679
It looks like letter dot Best, Kitchenview dot co. But

652
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:06.000
they're claiming it's a letter to John Walsh. I don't

653
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.079
see that. I see that as a letter to Nathan Cole.

654
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:14.039
Yeah, that sounds like it now.

655
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:19.199
In this whole ordeal, you have made contact with Megan Walsh.

656
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:24.000
Correct, Yeah, and it was. If I can be brief.

657
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:28.400
I had already done, you know, those scorpion ciphers and

658
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:33.440
the letters. So somebody was contacting her and she was wondering,

659
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:37.639
my godess this ruly, my brother, you definitely need to

660
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:41.840
have her on the show sometime because she was funning

661
00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:44.480
to stay out of the show business. And all the

662
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.559
others said that was you know that her father and

663
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:51.920
mother were involved with but and I said, no, I

664
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:56.519
have information that Adam is gone. But then shortly thereafter that,

665
00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:58.639
this is now a couple of years ago. I do

666
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:02.800
the the other letter. They remember me, the blah blah blah,

667
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.119
the standard graphic code that said that Adam lived on

668
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:10.679
one but it was Dan Ran, another secret son of

669
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:15.280
the Walshes, that was gone. And so I could go

670
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:20.719
on and we really brief that Megan contacted me. She says, okay,

671
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:24.480
she's been watching the show. Contacted me on Twitter. She says,

672
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:29.400
can you do something with this? That's the Sentinel star

673
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.760
envelope and coded letter.

674
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:35.679
My god, yeah, I have not seen this before, but

675
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:40.480
it is extremely consistent with the scorpion letters. It's extremely

676
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:45.760
with the Winovitch letter, the formatting, the way that it's written,

677
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.760
the way that the appearances. Many things that I look

678
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:53.480
at in regards to this new isn't the Sentinel Star

679
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:58.400
also something that was I'm sorry, a business that the

680
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:04.280
anthrax letters were of fake to the nine to eleven.

681
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:10.039
It's in the region if I remember right, But which

682
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:12.760
sucked me as I looked at it, and she said

683
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:15.280
she's been watching the sell and she says, I think

684
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:18.559
this is Jack's handwriting. That it looked like it to me,

685
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.719
So I started decoding it. I said, I'll be getting

686
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.960
back to you in a couple of weeks. But the

687
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:29.639
reason why you've probably never seen this is this is

688
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:32.960
because according to Megan, she said it was her and

689
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:37.360
her father's Adam Walsh FBI files. You might want to

690
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:41.480
do an fo A request for those files you might

691
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:43.119
find in there.

692
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:48.400
So the Sentinel Star is in Florida, correct.

693
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:51.880
I believe so, yeah, I might have to.

694
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.280
And I did not do any research on this, forgive

695
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:58.519
me for that. I feel like that the Star paper

696
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:02.519
that the fake anthrax letters were mailed to after the

697
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:07.639
initiated or the original anthrax letters were mailed. We had

698
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.440
a couple fakes that went out to Malaysia and to

699
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:14.320
the Star, and I feel like that was also in Florida.

700
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:17.760
In my research. Again, that's well in advance right now,

701
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:21.719
but I do find again the information interesting. So I'm

702
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.440
going to at least read this here message and allow

703
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:28.840
you to actually discuss the solve it, says Charlie Reese.

704
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:32.800
And is Charlie Reese a editor at the Sentinel Star.

705
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:35.000
I believe so.

706
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:39.639
Yep, it says Charlie Reeves, Sentinel Star. I met this

707
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:42.920
guy in Ocala Barr who said he knew someone that

708
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.840
would pay ten grand for a young boy. This guy

709
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:51.000
had lost his kid and his wife was going nuts.

710
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:55.719
We took the deal. He paid cash. I went to it,

711
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:58.400
says Chi. I don't know what that was supposed to say.

712
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:03.119
Friend stayed, what's that?

713
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:03.599
Oh?

714
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:06.000
I was gonna say really quick. I believe that came

715
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.159
out of Chicago because it was cut off very much

716
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:14.119
consistent well how Jack would do some of his code systems, right.

717
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:18.000
I went to if it was Chicago, My friends stayed

718
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.800
put I get back and find this kid was killed.

719
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:23.599
I know his name was Adam and he was from

720
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:29.119
the Islands. We got him in Hollywood, which they're meaning Hollywood, Florida.

721
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:32.400
I don't know this man's name. We don't know mine

722
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:36.159
or he don't know mine. He is a he is

723
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:40.880
big beard and don't wear any shoes on his feet.

724
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:44.239
He is crazy as hell, basically is what I'm gonna

725
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:48.239
and I'm ad living the h and would probably likely

726
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:51.119
be the end of that particular sentence. All right, So

727
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.599
let's take that to your soul, because we've got about

728
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:58.199
six minutes. It looks like here is what you have

729
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:01.320
put together and brings us to the salve. Do you

730
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:02.760
have that one to read or do you need me

731
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:03.280
to read that?

732
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:06.679
I'm going to have to read it, but I know

733
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:11.719
he starts out saying, why you shitty President Reagan, and

734
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:15.199
then he's screaming about Megan Walsh. And there's the picture

735
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:19.920
of Megan on her own Twitter where she's a baby

736
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:23.519
being held in the arms of Reagan with her mom

737
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:26.599
and dad in there. That he's going ballistic for that.

738
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:31.880
But I don't think that I actually see the picture

739
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:35.159
of her. But let's go ahead and read this Washington,

740
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:38.519
D C. White House, Why you shitty President veteran Ronald

741
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:43.280
Reagan with Megan Walsh, Bobby the cook spelled incorrectly quote

742
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:48.639
Noman Nescio protected name, Father John Edward the second he

743
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:52.639
needs to tell the truth. Sold six year old Adam

744
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:57.599
Walsh is now Lilly Brandt for ten GI to Defense Department,

745
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:06.400
United States Air Force Master Sarge Marion Petty, Tallahasee City, Okay,

746
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:19.360
Tallahassee City, Florida. Douglas Amherman. Is that CIA Finders? Yeah,

747
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:22.679
it is CIA Finder's cold to tell the truth. You

748
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:27.400
have no idea how information systems technician US Navy nineteen

749
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:31.039
year old vet might see the brant knee Walsh taught

750
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:34.960
in the arms of the Nomannescio protected named father. Walsh's

751
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.639
limo you kidding me? Eight thirty one sixty nine. I

752
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:42.239
was Zodiac now and nothing I witnessed saddest way to

753
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:47.639
die as Sydney Gottlieb and George Hunter White push LSS

754
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:53.159
Office of Strategic Services and CIA streams strain Anthrax Frank

755
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:55.639
Olson out the windows. So you're saying there's a connection

756
00:45:55.800 --> 00:46:01.000
between the Aimes strain, which is used in the Anthrops letters,

757
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:01.960
and Frank Olsen.

758
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:08.119
He was working on it, he had basically created it.

759
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.159
That was way back in the early late forties, early fifties.

760
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:17.679
So people think that he's people think he's pushed out

761
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:20.400
over LSD when he could be pushed out the window

762
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:23.920
for so many other reasons. It sounds like then, so

763
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:27.480
pushed out the window eleven, twenty eight, fifty three, Ubi

764
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:32.920
is Remdium? Where is the mk ultra remedy for the dee?

765
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.719
President Dwight Eisenhower Saudi nineteen fifty three Execute order? Did

766
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:41.239
Prescott Bush save us Scott three twenty two, nineteen oh

767
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:45.239
eight series, Cincinnati, Ohio? Stamp the cure? I get even

768
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:49.559
for Nomanesio Walsh wife and mother switched IDs with Janette

769
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:54.320
Kamahaly nineteen seventy three, Frans Valley, Santa Rosa ninety five

770
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:58.519
four or four mistake, thus killing wrong. So you're saying

771
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:01.679
that instead he was supposed to to get.

772
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:05.960
Believe there was a hit all by Walsh because they

773
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:10.880
couldn't stop what was happening. So Nixon and those other

774
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:14.760
people sounds really horrible. They were tired of this grab,

775
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:18.119
so they were going to try to take her out,

776
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:22.840
but it was dark and he grabbed the wrong person.

777
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:26.519
So I said, he's going to get even and get

778
00:47:26.519 --> 00:47:27.599
their firstborn son.

779
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:32.920
Mistake killing wrong, Okay, I'm going to finish this off.

780
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:38.639
Was to do Nixon EO and assassinate Reeve girl. Uh

781
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:42.159
so got son Dan Wren and his boy was kicking

782
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:45.199
and screaming. I used rope, tied him up his hands

783
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:47.480
and feet. I ripped head off, dumped it in the

784
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:51.639
highway sixty I R C Florida. His body is at

785
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:56.480
jeep trail back where last Donal Last lays, Lower Lake, California.

786
00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:58.840
So you're saying that the head was left there in

787
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:01.199
Florida and the body was born back to Lower Lake.

788
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:05.800
Yeah, because there's a lot of calls I have where

789
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:10.840
they're talking about John Walsh and people connected to them

790
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:14.400
right there at the same jeep trail where we went to.

791
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:18.239
Because it's very close to NAPAs so you can go

792
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:21.519
fifteen hundred feature in Napa County.

793
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:24.159
Well, I wonder if they've found any remains of a

794
00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:27.559
small boy there that they haven't connected to and two together,

795
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:30.800
because they're literally completely across the United States, that might

796
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:32.760
be an interesting thing to look at. I got about

797
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:36.599
one minute. I'm going to finish this off. Backward law

798
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:40.440
last on a Last Let's Lower Lake, California. Also isg

799
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:45.280
Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum nineteen seventies, Highest Bobby Donadi is

800
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:48.960
to die by thirty eight gun next in New England.

801
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:53.000
So no Mineseo, no one former Zodiac killer. You're calling

802
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:57.480
it Jack Terrence. And then the envelope, I believe is

803
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:01.000
what we're looking at. Here is a quest Adam Walsh

804
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:04.840
Star Sentinel Moore to decode and add to main message.

805
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:07.000
It says, to tell the truth. You have no idea

806
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:11.800
how it Vet nineteen information systems technician US Navy veteran

807
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:15.760
at nineteen years old, might see the Brandt knee Walsh

808
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:19.880
taught in the arms of the Nomannescio protected name Father's limo.

809
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.599
A limo was bugged, had a camera sent transmission feed

810
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.079
to Jack and his crew as he's still in the

811
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:30.760
intel community in the early nineteen eighties. All right, you

812
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:33.079
got any last minute words about that, because we've got

813
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:36.119
about fifteen seconds.

814
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:38.760
My last minute words is you got to get Megan

815
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:43.800
Walsh on She's interesting. He does post guess.

816
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:46.320
And this is a communication she actively asked you to

817
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:48.920
look at because she believed it was Jack's handwriting. We're

818
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:50.719
gonna drop it from there. You guys all have a

819
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:53.320
wonderful weekend. We will see you next Friday, which will

820
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:57.119
be Valentine's Day, and I look forward to discussing and

821
00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:59.599
opening up this can of worms and how it all

822
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:04.599
relates to Rupert Murdoch and the Fox Entertainment News, America's

823
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:08.559
most Wanted Tom Voyd, Bart Baggett, all the things that

824
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:11.559
actually make this nice little ball. Take care everyone, We'll

825
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:13.039
see you soon. Thank you, Harriet,