Aug. 15, 2025

John Walsh Scorpion Letters

John Walsh Scorpion Letters
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The FBI and John Walsh withhold these Scorpion letters for 15 years. Jack retires in 1991 and goes back to Texas. Interesting things begin taking place like the letters to John Walsh from Scorpion. Narrative of the Zodiac Killer has changed from who will play me in a movie, to let me help you get it right, and I can beat all counter-measures of the CIA and FBI. Zodiac Killer claimed smarter than the cops and FBI. Unsolved cryptographs, cryptograms, and ciphers.

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Good morning, True seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.

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I must apologize for last week's episode, which was improperly

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labeled as John Walsh and the Scorpion Letters. We are

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going to get to that today during this podcast, but

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I did attempt to relabel that because all we truly

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covered was the Christmas card and another anonymous letter, which

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we're going to talk a little bit more about today.

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So I'm going to welcome on Lindsay mcgrair.

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Hey, how are y'all?

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I'm doing great? How about yourself?

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Good? It's Friday.

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It is Friday. I'm so excited. It has been one

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hell of a week after returning from Alaska. I have

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been absolutely slammed, but it was very My interest is

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very pequed in regards to that Charlie Reese Sentinel letter

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that you sent me, because we have got some dirt

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to talk about on that. But first I want to

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I want to cover somebody who has reached out to

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me claiming another suspect. He does believe that they are

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part of a group. He does not want any of

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his information shown, so I'm just going to kind of

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brief and go over some of the research that occurred

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over this contact. His email to me said I have

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information on the Zodiac that has not been released. I

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don't know what he could possibly mean by that, because

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he did say he's former law enforcement, so maybe he

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does have some type money in I know he says

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I am the one popping up in the last video.

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I don't know what he means by that because the

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last video was a pre record, it was not live,

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so I'm not sure where he popped up, and I

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didn't see any real notifications from him, but he said

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I'd like to speak to Nolan and let it be

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covered by attorney client privilege. Privilege. This is new information

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and not from old case files and attached to a

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person not named publicly. You cannot go over the files

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and find this information. The local police are taking it

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very seriously. If you can have Nolan call me, I

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have called him, but the voicemail is full. Please haven't

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called me any day at three pm Central time one

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pm his time any day. So I of course forwarded

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that onto Nolan. Nolan did reach out to him. I

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was hoping Nolan was going to be here this morning

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to talk about this a little bit. He may have

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gotten caught up with a court hearing or something to

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that effect. Anyways, this individual then proceeded to send over

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I guess Nolan had instructed him to send evidence over

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to me. So far as I can tell, the evidence

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isn't kind of winding out too very much, and it

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did cause me to do some research.

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Now.

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Of course, I know that the zodiacsiphers dot com site,

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this is a list of who they have as potential suspects,

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which many have already been ruled out, so I'm not

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sure why they're still showing these out. Arthur Lee Allen

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obviously at the very top named the primed suspect. We

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have told you guys until we were blue in the

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face and showed you evidence that supports Arthur Lee Allen

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was not the Zodiac Killer. And then we had Earl

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Van Best Junior by Gary Stewart, which we've proved that

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the handwriting he had examined belonged to the minister who

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married his dad and mom, Garth Penn and Michael O'Hare,

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Oh gosh, George Hodell and most evil. I think that

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Harriet has kind of weaved a a solve that indicates

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that George Hodell may have had some type of involvement

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with this group. I'm not sure what gray Smith Unmasked

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is supposed to lead to. Larry Kane again not a

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very good suspect, Lyndon Lafferty and the Silenced Badge. I'm

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not sure who this is. Richard gray Kowski again it

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actually says the wrong man and Richard Marshall aka Donald

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Jeff Andrews, and then Zodiac and the Unibomber. Although I

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would have to say that the Zodiac made it extremely

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clear that he did not actively use any bombs. While

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he used that as a ploy, he had stated that

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he was never going to blow up children anyways, that

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leads us to this neck.

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Give a picture.

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Hand Darleen was can approximately five foot nine. I did

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strike a line across the top of Darlene's head, just

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to kind of give us an idea how much taller

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this individual may potentially be than it looks like. It's

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roughly about five to nine. Now what I did learn,

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and this picture is covered over here on the right

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hand side, because this is the new suspect, and I've

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been asked not to release any of the information for

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fear that something may happen to the individual who is

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reporting this information to us. I'm not sure, Lindsay, why

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people reach out to me if they don't want to

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give me all the truth. I mean, what is the potential?

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Are you still there, Lindsay? I think I've lost Lindsay again,

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if you don't want to give me all of the

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information that you have to look into and see whether

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or not this person is a potential set for this.

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There you go, There you are?

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Okay. I kept hitting the micropron thing and it wouldn't

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it wouldn't let me click it off. But I was

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just going to say, real quick, like when you just

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went over that list of those suspects, there is an

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indicator and there is a sequence I see of similarities

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with these people that were named and that have been

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named in several different instances of being the zodiac in

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which we just rolled that out. I think they are

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connected in a different way to the government and to

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the CIA, So just keep that in mind, gotcha.

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Okay, So they're looking at him and well, and evidently

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this individual who's reached out to me as indicated that

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his suspect is also a stepfather, just like Dennis's step

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dad Jack, and that he was related to the CIA

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in the secret service type industry. At some point, I'm

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not really capable of making out a lot of his

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information because it doesn't come in flowing. And he indicates

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his former law enforcement and that he is has a

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master's or something in forensics, and I think he'd be

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able to plot out this information in a way that

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was far more palatable so that it could make sense.

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But so far I'm not getting a lot of sense

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made out of anything. But he did so.

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I will say that almost all those suspects on that list,

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if not all of them, have a military background or

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a military background within their family. That's very prominent.

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I thought that I thought that Richard Gaikowski did not

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hold on because there was two people, and I thought

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Richard Gaikowski was one of them that did not have

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a military background, and which case the twenty twenty Documents

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docuseries where the Orange chac fella who claims to have

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solved the three point forty indicated that they now believe

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that the Zodiac had no military connection, which I thought

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huge bs bs.

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Oh, yes, I was about to say, what, No, are

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you kidding me? That's a joke.

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That is a huge joke. And to follow that up,

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it was because the two suspects they were naming did

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not have military backgrounds, so of course they fit the narrative.

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And I thought Richard Gaikowski was one of them, so

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I'm not sure I would have to go back and

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check that information. Anyways, the picture of the unknown man,

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and you're gonna find this interesting, Lindsay, because it was

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actually John Walsh who put this picture out and I'm

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going to talk about that.

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Oh my god.

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Yeah. Either way, it became this huge hype, almost as

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if to reopen the case, and we've found new information.

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Who is this strange man in this picture? What I

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can surmise from this is that the man is a

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prox monthly five foot nine. In speaking to the individual

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who has sent me the information, on this new suspect

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claims that the suspect is approximately five to eleven, so

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we can see that clearly this guy is shorter in

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this picture than his stepfather. Was also to note that

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the individual in this picture, now this picture was purportedly

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stashed or hidden in Darlene's belongings, to note that it

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was not her her ex husband Jim Phillips Crabtree. He

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has indicated that he is not the individual in this picture. However,

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this person is absolutely wearing a wedding ring. So I

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went on to ask the new guy in regards to

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his suspect whether or not he was married at this time.

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He indicated no, he was not. So either this picture

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is stashed because Darling's cheating with a married man, or

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I would say, or I really don't know an alternative

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for her standing next to in all with an individual.

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Either way that had brought to light because they believe

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they were trying to I think in the fact that

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Darling knew her killer, and many people have suggested that

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they did not. When I actually put all of the

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pictures up in line, I've out fell over because in

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my reading some people had indicated they thought it was

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Brian Hartnell in this picture. And if you look at

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these pictures side by side, my god, they're almost a

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dead ringer for each other. It's like they're they're doppelgangers

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or something. And again, the picture that I was supplied

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of this new suspect looks nothing like this picture, and

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he's trying to claim that by biometrics it's matched the face.

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It's it absolutely, one hundred percent looks like two totally

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different people, and of course does not match the zodiacal

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closet either. So I'm starting to tend to think that

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this is just another person trying to buy up my time. Oh, welcome, Nolan.

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It does look like heart now, doesn't it. I think

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he froze up. Are you hearing me? You must be

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having some technical difficulties, all right, anyways, we are seeing

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that I'm back, okay, So yeah, does it not look

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like Ryan Hardell? I was a little blown away. I

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was like when I was.

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Scared referring to the state. What that's a step dad?

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Now he's all over born, right.

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Yeah, he absolutely is. He's talking about the BTK killer. Now,

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I thought the BTK killer had been caught. I'm still

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I'm still not getting responses.

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I was listening. I was just waiting for no one

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to respond. But yeah, the BTK killer, Yeah, he's definitely

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he was definitely caught and he he does not look

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like him either to me.

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Well, he's trying to say that they're all part of

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the same group.

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I guess, uh, oh they are, that is true, I

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do I can confirm.

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That BTK killer is part of the same group.

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Oh yeah.

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Has he made claims that there are others involved? Oh yeah, gotcha. Okay, well,

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so maybe there's a little truth between his connections somehow.

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Either way, like Nolan said, he's kind of all over

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the board with his information, and we know the connections

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to Mansion Manson. I was not aware of any connections

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to BTK. Maybe that's something I need to claim too. Yes, hello,

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oh I hear I hear him. But then he just

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froze again. Yeah, okay, you keep freezing.

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Me? Yeah hello, hello, Yeah, wrong with my computer?

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No, you seem to be working fine, now, don't leave,

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all right? What were you going to say about BTK?

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Oh, there's similarities in the haunting of law enforcement, in

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sending out of messages and whatnot.

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Things like that.

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The FBI did indicate that there is a good number

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of serial killers that absolutely write in and taunt the

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taunt law enforcement. So there's no doubt that there are

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going to be other serial killers that are as brazen

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as the Zodiac is. Now whether or not these individuals

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knew each other, I mean, I would love to see

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the picture of the BTK killer and see if that's

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anything I can match to any known pictures of Jack's

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that could be helpful. But I really don't even have

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in mind who it was that they caught. Do you

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know who the BTK killer was?

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I don't, lindsay, I have his face pictured in my head.

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Let me see, Dennis.

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I think his name isis something? Yep?

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Okay? Is the picture in the middle. Is that hurt? Now?

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That's the unknown man in a picture found hidden in

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Darlene's stuff. So evidently the purported story behind this was

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this picture was found hidden in her stuff.

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Clearly, if you go back to the last slide.

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That's him. That's partner in the hospital.

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So there's the picture of his face and color to

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the left, and then him laying in the hospital bed

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at nap Napa Valley. All Right, I'm sorry, brother, I

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know he is serious doppelganger there.

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All right, So well, I'm going to point out something

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I just noticed that you're well, no, you can go

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back to the next side because it's it's actually at

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the top of the next one, I think, because and

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you had it at the top of the picture of

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the other picture that was found in Darlene's stuff this one.

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So yes, so you you entitled it laundry and research. Yeah,

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I find it kind of crazy that that you that

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you named it that. Can you tell us why you

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named it that?

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Well, anytime I'm having to follow up on a lead

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or any type of research, that that's just the default

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slide that I plot everything down to. So that just

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means that's new work that I just recently discovered.

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Oh okay, just curious because the laundry actually that word

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comes into effect with John Walsh a lot actually, so

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that was kind of weird.

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Yeah, and I bet it's dirty laundry. Yeah, yeah, all right,

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So onto This is actually from one of the I

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think it's the Zodiac Zodiac Ciphers or Zodiac Killer zodiacciphers

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dot com I believe, is where I pulled this insert from.

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And you guys are gonna find this interesting, it says Tom.

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Voyd continued to suggest that the unidentified man in the

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photograph may have been somehow connected to Darling's murder or

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the Zodiac crimes. Yet many members of his own message

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board agreed with other reasonable observers and believed that the

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man was most likely Darlene's ex husband. However, I did

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read in the research that Crabtree had indicated he is

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not the person in that picture. I don't know why

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he would deny it if he was, because they were

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clearly married in sixty seven sixty eight, somewhere around their

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sixty six to sixty eight The America's Most Wanted website

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stated that police wanted to identify the man in question,

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yet anyone who wished to do so would have better

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luck contacting Darling's family and friends in search of an answer,

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rather than asking viewers all over the world who did

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not know Darlene Farrene at all. I think that's a

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very darn good point. The AMW jelo Yeah. The AMW

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broadcast consisted largely of material already shown in previous Zodiac segments,

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and the inclusion of the unidentified man seemed to be

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a little more than an attempt to boost ratings with

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the illusion that the broadcast was presenting important new evidence.

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The facts strongly indicate that the man in the photograph

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had no connection to the Zodiac, and that those who

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continued to claim otherwise were doing so in order to

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get attention. After Voight's unknown man mystery fizzled, rumors surface

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that Voight was claiming he had contacted Darlene's ex husband,

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Jim Phillips, and that he stated that he was not

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the man in the photograph. In two thousand and eight,

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Voy had written that Phillips was is a fabulous source

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of mine. Yet Void did not report any such denials

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from Phillips to the public. So basically he even tried

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to say that this was Gaikowski. I believe in what

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I'm reade from this website. Boy is all over the

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place as to who this individual could be. But again

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he also yeah, ah you Friz again. Oh my god,

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it made me crazy. You have something good to say,

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I'm sure either way, just as Gaikowski is not a

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match to what maybe you need to go to come

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back in again, there he did, all right, So just

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as Tom Boyd has alluded to Gykowski being the Zodiac

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suspect when he does not match the composite at all.

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I would suggest that Boyd get his eyes checked because

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there's something going on there, and onto some boundary research,

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which is just more communications from other individuals. Miss Vannerak.

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This woman, I really can't make heads or tails of

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some of her stuff. But she was talking about the

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mob ery using radio communication to organize their boost smuggling operations.

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I concur with that. So I would like to draw

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Harriet's attention to the newspaper ads posted by Fred Dodd

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aka Wallace Bard Mohammed especially. I think that this woman

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actually believes there's some Saudi Arabia connection to the zodiac, which,

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to the extent that I could find anything from East

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India was literally the uh the prince of we were

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talking Kagashi what was his name he is? He was

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hemmed up with ye and and and he was human

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trafficking you know, women, possibly children. Who knows what he

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was being investigated for with Riboso. But we have shown

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that connection between him and John Walsh and all of

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these other people. But this person believes that the zodiac

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was literally from I think East India and see India.

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I know, I know, I know. Compare with me, what's that?

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Okay, keep going, there is an Indian connection with.

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Oh you're cutting out again. I don't know what's going

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on with your internet right now.

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It was arms trafficker as well.

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Oh dang, yeah.

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Yeah, you're freezing and cutting Do you need to be

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closer to your server? I'm not sure anyways. Okay, so

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she says law is the French and the Z three

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begins with her all linked. So again I'm just missing

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what this connection is. These messages are shown in a

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document I found whilst reading the Nation of Islam. So

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there's there's the connection. She's claiming, an Islamic connection. I

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don't know what it is called, because I saved a

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copy and it just got labeled video download. It's presented

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by a man with a big silicon lemon. I don't

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know what that's most me this. I know the signature

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symbol on the zodiac soil barrel letter is therefore based

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on the Steno Company logo. I don't know who Steno

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Company is. I don't know what logo she's referring to.

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So again, you guys, when you're gonna reach out to me,

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be more specific, if you're trying to give me information

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that makes connections, I need to be able to understand

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those connections.

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She goes on, I'll say that there is actually a

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tree buried for Adam Walsh in Israel. So really, oh yeah, yep? Why?

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And I don't really know? And Megan that his daughter

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does not know either.

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Huh. Well, Ms Vanorak goes on to say, now this

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gets a little gross. Apparently in the early years of

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MI I six they discovered that seamen could be used

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as invisible ink. But how it was made visible I

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don't know. Wax resist perhaps, I don't know what that means.

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And I wonder if that is what is hinted at

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to the left of the leafy signature on the soil

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barrel letter, which always amuses me because the sperm is

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going away from the egg. Does anybody think that that

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logo on the soy barrel looks like a sperm leaving

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an egg? Well, I said that sounds disgusting, But if

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you use a UV light in a hotel room, biological

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biological matter will illuminate. So this is how they would

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then see if somebody had written in sperm. I don't

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know where to go with these people. All right, moving on,

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has Bob.

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We heard a little bit? Is Michael Joe still alive?

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Is he around?

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I believe he's still alive. I'm not sure where he's at.

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He probably, like Hartnell, is not doing any interviews or

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talking about the case anymore. And who knows if they

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are on a hush hush you know, Nda or what

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have you not to speak about the case. I don't

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know what the reasoning is for not wanting to solve it.

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I get it that there's a lot of kooks out

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there and you'd want to stay away from them, But

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there are sometimes people who are legitimately like us that

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are looking to solve this case with real evidence. We're

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not coming at you sideways with sperm and with all

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these other things that you're hearing about. Kasvo came back

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and he said, if your person of interest is Jack,

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Jack is matched to the zodiac and matched to Texas,

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then I have solved the Z thirteen cipher. How long

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time ago? It says I again? Please, people write clearly

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it says Texarkana phantom. So I responded back, the Z

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thirteen is just that thirteen symbols Texarkana phantom takes sixteen

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to make, so I'm not sure where he's going from there.

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I did ask, I haven't received a response. He indicates

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the two keys that we talked about in the Christmas

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card has clues in those mailboxes. There's probably a letter

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or some kind of proof or something in those mailbox boxes.

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I don't think there's anything left in those mailboxes once

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they stopped being paid for. Unless they were paid for,

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you know, years and years and years in advance. They

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were probably reissued to someone else. He said, think about it.

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It's very like James Bond movie, like to hide a

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clue in the US Postal Service safety box? Yeah, of

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course play. Here's the thing. If anybody got those keys

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and went to those mailboxes, it's going to lead you nowhere.

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Because he likes to play games. So in one sentence

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he's saying there's something probably hitting there, hidden there, and

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then in another post he's saying, it's just games again.

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I don't know, Gary Tong. This is actually a relative

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of of Jack's family. So he said, was there any

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chewing tobacco to ever be found to be connected to

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the zodiac, because it's the one thing that doesn't add

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up with Jack Jack absolutely loved chewing tobacco, So if

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he was really the Zodiac, you would think someone would

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have found a connection to the Zodiac and chewing tobacco.

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So if you can find any thing, just one instance

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of the Zodiac being known to chew it, or some

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found at one of the murder scenes, it would be

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a huge missing puzzle piece and a huge game changer.

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That is all. Now, if that was something they found,

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that might be something they withheld that may not be

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included in any of the reports, something that they wanted

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to keep secret. So I don't know that we would

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have any opportunity to figure that out. The other side

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of me says, you know, you got a nasty habit

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like that. Could you literally be chewing your cud while

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killing somebody? I mean, if you're swallowing your spit, maybe,

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but are you gonna stop to spit midknife thrashing?

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Yeah, exactly, And then that would just like, uh, you know,

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be a possibility of you leaving your DNA somewhere.

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So, yeah, he's committing the crimes, I would you think so?

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Yeah?

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I wouldn't think so. But if he did, and they

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do have this information, while we now know so that

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means that Jack chewed and smoked. He doubled down on

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his nicotine. Dude, Yeah, because when they can't smoke, they

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decide to chew. Right. So Gary Tungue, as Jack's nephew

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through marriage, can confirm he frequented Texas. Jack, Nora, and

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their son Charles, traveled a lot. And for the record,

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despite that Dennis claimed about Jack killing Nora, Jack did

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not kill Nora. She died from complications of diabetes after

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having her leg amputated. She died at the hospital, which

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I understand that and and Dennis did include that she

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was that she died at the hospital. The difference is

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is that he believes that Jack hastened her death and

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also prevented Dennis from visiting his mother at the hospital

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by having him stopped by security, making false claims of

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Dennis trying to do something illegal or bad or you know.

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He basically had him eighty six from the hospital, and

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he had found multiple pills underneath his mother's bed where

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it appeared as though she was hiding her medications after

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being given to her by Jack because she was afraid

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Jack was trying to kill her, so she wasn't taking

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any of her meds, and this would have hastened obviously,

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somebody in a diabetic state would have hastened their death

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because she wasn't getting properly medicated for the disease.

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Yeah.

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Now this brings us to the Charlie Reese letter, which

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I am about floored that this was written September of

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nineteen eighty one. Adam Walsh did not die till nineteen

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eighty four, correct.

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No, eighty one, he did. They found his head at

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nineteen eighty one.

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Oh, okay, so I had my years mass.

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He was kidnapped July twenty seventh, nineteen eighty one, and

463
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:57.279
found his head on August eleventh, nineteen eighty one.

464
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:00.480
So now we have the envelope and we have the

465
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:04.519
actual message, which we did not have before with Harriet

466
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:08.559
sol Which where did you find this particular envelope?

467
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:09.359
Uh?

468
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:11.880
This all was in them wash case file.

469
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:16.319
Okay. So there are other other documents that are likely

470
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:18.319
out there that we have not seen, but this one

471
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:20.640
was produced. And so this is going to be what

472
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:22.279
the Foyer file from the FBI.

473
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.759
Uh huh, yeah, it's I mean still, it takes it

474
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:29.759
takes years to go through that file because it's so

475
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:32.000
large there's thousands.

476
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:33.960
Of pagers, right, so it's like going through the z.

477
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:37.960
Is he an editor or a writer?

478
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:43.039
I believes that wrote to the The Sun Sentinel.

479
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:50.319
Charlie Reese was OK, but he's he's addressed. It was

480
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:52.160
Charlie Reese far.

481
00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:59.039
Y st. Yeah, that's what I didn't understand because it

482
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:01.119
looks like it's to Charlie Reeves.

483
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.359
But yeah, I guess so.

484
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:07.440
I guess. Yeah, he was an editor. There had to

485
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:07.720
have been.

486
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:11.519
I think that that might have been something that Harriet

487
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.400
had confirmed in her solves. I'm not sure either way.

488
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.279
It's the letter we went over two weeks ago or

489
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:21.279
last week in regards to uh, the individual claiming to

490
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:23.240
have met a man in a bar. He doesn't know

491
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:27.759
what say? Let me see, let me go.

492
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:30.920
That should have been a clearer version.

493
00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:33.480
Yeah, I have a clearer version. That was just the

494
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:35.759
one you sent me. So let me go back here

495
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:38.279
real quick. I know I have it there. No, not there,

496
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:43.960
Oh my goodness. It was back a little bit ago.

497
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:53.960
I think you're almost there. Yeah, it's gonna be sad ways,

498
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.559
because I think you had the coffee that was sadeways.

499
00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:05.359
I'm not seeing it. That was eighty six Uh, I'm

500
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:10.160
not finding it. You guys, what in the world I know.

501
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:16.200
We just recently read it. It's blurry. It's very blurry.

502
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:23.960
The image that I have is extremely blurry.

503
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:25.400
Really fast, and then I'll read it.

504
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:45.200
Sorry for the silence here, I am trying to make

505
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.680
my way back. That's the Christmas card. I would have

506
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:58.519
thought that it would have been no, okay, Oh it

507
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:00.440
says I met this guy in a note call a

508
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:05.839
bar and he said he knew someone that. Oh yeah,

509
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:09.799
it gets really blurry either way. He's stating that he

510
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:11.759
met somebody in a bar. He doesn't know their name.

511
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.559
They were solicited to abduct a boy for an individual.

512
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:20.480
I gotta here, I gotta here, I gotta here. I

513
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:24.720
met this guy in in o call a bar who

514
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:31.400
said he knew someone that was maybe ten, that knew someone.

515
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:37.119
That had ten thousand for that.

516
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.160
Would pay ten thousand for a young boy. This guy

517
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:42.279
had lost his.

518
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:47.319
Kid, yeah, his son yea, and.

519
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:55.319
His wife was going nuts. And we took the deal.

520
00:31:55.599 --> 00:32:00.720
He we took the deal. He what he? I think he.

521
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:07.839
Basically they took the deal. And then this guy leaves town,

522
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:10.799
the one that's supposedly writing this message. And when he

523
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:14.480
came back, he found out that the kid had been killed.

524
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:15.920
Here we go.

525
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.079
So this is the one, the most important part. You

526
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:20.720
could read it better. I know his name was Adam

527
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:24.240
and he was from the Islands. We got him in Hollywood.

528
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:28.039
That's Hollywood, Florida. I don't know this man's name, and

529
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.640
we don't know, and he don't know mine. He is

530
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:36.559
a big beard and don't and don't know. Let's see,

531
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:40.200
he is a big beard and no shoes on his feet.

532
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:44.640
He is crazy as hell, right, So what I wanted

533
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.240
to like remind everybody is that we had a similar

534
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:51.240
type communication. Now I have not identified this as Jack's handwriting.

535
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.680
I'm just putting this out there. In nineteen forty seven,

536
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:59.279
nineteen forty eight, we had the letter that was written

537
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.960
in regards to the real estate agent during the Black

538
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:05.759
Dahl era of murders, and that person also indicated the

539
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:08.079
same type of situation. I met a man in a bar,

540
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:10.000
I don't know his name. Blah blah blah, blah, blah

541
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:12.359
blah blah. It seems to be almost the narrative is

542
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.200
almost identical to a letter that we have seen before.

543
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:18.119
What mesmerized me here is that we have two six

544
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:21.079
six' one written on the actual envelope and two six

545
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.720
sixty three written on the actual letter. Itself that means

546
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.000
there's a page in between two six six y two

547
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:29.720
that we've not seen or how has not been produced

548
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:31.240
or did you see, that? Lindsay?

549
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:35.240
INTERESTING i, ER i went in order BECAUSE i was

550
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:35.920
looking for. It?

551
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:43.039
Gotcha, Yeah so we we're missing a, yeah, yeah it

552
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.240
could be a, cipher it could be an. Image it

553
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.319
could be you, know a multitude of. Things but it

554
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:51.400
appears as though the sequence of numbering is incorrect or

555
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:54.640
there's something. Missing oh here it is, brighton bright and.

556
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:59.839
Shiny so we took the. Deal he paid, CASH i

557
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:03.000
went TO i think he Said. Chicago my friends. Stayed

558
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.319
PUT i get back and find this kid was, Killed

559
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.039
which doesn't make any sense because if they took the

560
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:11.960
deal and they went and Kidnapped, adam where was this

561
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:15.719
kid during that? Time when this man says he left

562
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.920
After i'm assuming so the letter itself is not holding

563
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:25.199
any water because he's making so go, ahead, no go.

564
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:29.679
Ahead SO i wanted to read that last bit just

565
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.679
WHILE i go about the. Islands is Because John walsh

566
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:37.760
was working for a hotel industry In bahamamas and that's

567
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:41.000
why he was talking about the islands And. Meghan his,

568
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:45.679
Daughter Megan walsh has confirmed that her dad has told

569
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:50.639
her many times That adam and there's also a documentation

570
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:53.599
of this, too Of John walsh speaking and telling this

571
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:56.800
that he would Take adam to the islands all the

572
00:34:56.840 --> 00:35:01.039
time with him when he went to go. Work, oh

573
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:04.320
so he's. Been So adam's been in the, Islands so

574
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:10.159
that is The so this dude knows something, Him, yes

575
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:12.679
because he has been in the islands with his.

576
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:17.880
Dad so, yeah so he had basically some inside. Information

577
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:23.360
but we also know that inside the mob, World John

578
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:28.199
walsh's life isn't so, secretive, RIGHT i mean he goes.

579
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:31.800
To hire people to kidnap a. Child that's.

580
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:36.360
WEIRD i know, that the whole the whole, Thing, yeah

581
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:41.800
a little. Sketchy and they took the. JOB i mean

582
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:44.920
it says they took the. Job but then he says

583
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:48.519
but then he says he, Left And i'm thinking he's

584
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:51.599
saying he left The chicago and his friend. Stayed PUT

585
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.400
i get back and find this kid was? Killed so

586
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:57.480
who killed the? Kids so these guys are saying we kidnapped.

587
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:01.119
Him Then i'm going To i'm going to surmise that

588
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.719
these individuals were not the, killers but they were the

589
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:07.800
ones who kidnapped and Handed adam wash off to someone, else.

590
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:13.840
Well kill.

591
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:18.480
Him but these two people supposedly split the ten grand

592
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:22.000
to do the abduction for this other. Guy so he's

593
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.480
alluding to the fact that when he gets, back this

594
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:26.719
kid has now been killed by the guy that he

595
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:32.840
basically Kidnapped Adam walsh to give Two so he's implicating

596
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:35.960
somebody others they're the, kidnappers somebody else killed.

597
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:36.199
Him.

598
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:42.519
Basically, Yeah and So hollywood is not too far From Donia,

599
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:44.960
beach which we have a connection to in the earlier

600
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:49.559
texar can Of phantom murders after they had a suspect in.

601
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:51.840
Jail SO i just thought it was interesting WHEN i

602
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:55.239
pulled Up hollywood That Donia beach was so Close Fort, Lauderdale.

603
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.079
Florida we can see all of this is within approximately let's.

604
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:02.760
See that's SO i mapped. Out they would have had

605
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.480
to have driven almost a little over four hours From

606
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:09.800
ocalla To hollywood in order to do this. Kidnapping.

607
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:14.320
Yep, well and all of those, counties all those counties

608
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:19.519
together are very nefarious counties as far as law enforcement

609
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:23.119
goes and crime and. Secrets SO.

610
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:27.800
I just pulled out this blurb from the letter from

611
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:31.920
nineteen forty eight in regards to one of the previous,

612
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:34.719
murders and it, says made an acquaintance with a man

613
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:41.679
three weeks ago while In Griffith Stick Griffith Griffith. Park

614
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.280
he a great, Sport we got Friendly friday, night asked

615
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.559
me If i'd like to make about three hundred. Dollars

616
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:51.199
so this letter is coming from again a point of

617
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.800
an individual who met somebody who's now soliciting them to

618
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:56.960
make money to attempt to buy a house for, him

619
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:00.320
and he's claiming that he was then knocked out this

620
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:05.559
guy tied up and left unconscious while the person did

621
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.159
the deed and killed the real estate. Agent So i'm

622
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.239
just saying that this whole thought process and the communication

623
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:14.679
OF i met another guy who's responsible for, this THAT

624
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:18.920
i would you, Know i'm telling on them if you

625
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:20.760
get if you get Where i'm going with. That in

626
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:25.599
regards to The ocalla, letter it's big super, yes, yeah,

627
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:29.360
yeah all, right so we don't have to go through

628
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:31.679
all of. That but AGAIN i did, notice we do

629
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:35.559
know That jack had affiliation With Fort, Lauderdale, florida and

630
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:39.159
on the back it says looking. North and of course

631
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:43.400
we had some a couple's murder In Donia, beech which

632
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:46.400
is all very close To. Hollywood everything's within about fourteen

633
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:50.840
minutes of each, other and it may be. Neither, yeah oh.

634
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:53.519
Yeah that's how they and that's how they get, around

635
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:56.719
and that's how they d. Like it's Like florida is so,

636
00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:00.840
big But florida is really a small town where everyone

637
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:01.880
knows everyone at the same.

638
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:06.760
Time right, now that brings us to the nineteen ninety One.

639
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.800
Scorpion letters are mailed To John walsh Of America's Most

640
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.920
wanted jacksone an episode and this came From Dennis, jackson

641
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:16.880
an episode ran By America's Most wanted on The Zodiac

642
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:19.440
killer and Asked dennis for a book By John. Walsh,

643
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:22.079
now next we're going to see the letters that are

644
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:24.159
written To John. Walsh do you know the name of that? Book?

645
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:25.840
Again tears of.

646
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:29.440
Rage i'm still, Right i'm reading. It i'm reading it right.

647
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:35.519
Now, Okay so laundry and research on this particular letter

648
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:39.159
because it says it's been more than fifteen, years But

649
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:42.760
America's Most wanted is just now ready to reveal a

650
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:47.239
series of personal. Threats in nineteen ninety, One America's Most wanted,

651
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:50.679
Host John, walsh was sent a series of anonymous threatening

652
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:55.159
letters that contained cryptic, clues secret, codes and claims that

653
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:58.800
the author committed some serious. Crimes THE fbi has examined

654
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:01.079
the letters and while they pill don't know who wrote

655
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.440
or sent these, letters they say they were not sent

656
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:07.239
by The zodiac killer here, right and the cryptographs have

657
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:10.280
yet to be. Solved can you help solve this mystery?

658
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:15.159
Now my comments on this PARTICULAR foya file paper in

659
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:18.599
regards to these letters is that number, one they were

660
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:21.119
withheld from the, public just like The christmas card, was

661
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:25.119
just like the nineteen eighty Six sacramento letter. Was and

662
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:28.880
it says a, series so that means there were several

663
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:33.599
communications that were. SENT i didn't ACTUALLY i didn't actually

664
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:36.920
find anything Threatening John, walsh nor DID i find anything

665
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:40.760
that indicated the individual was familiar with anything that was

666
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.480
going on With Adam. Walsh THOUGH i believe that there

667
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:46.960
are portions of these letters that have been, withheld if

668
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:51.039
not absolute whole. Communications so as we go through these,

669
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:54.320
letters you'll see What i'm talking. About BUT i didn't

670
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:57.880
see anything that was Threatening John walsh.

671
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:01.719
And why They they. Wouldn't they, wouldn't they wouldn't threaten,

672
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:06.840
him but, He, uh what is the Reason adam was

673
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:12.000
taken in the first? Place because of something he? Did

674
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:14.320
and so they had to Use they just made him

675
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.559
a deal and turned around and, Said, okay you're gonna

676
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:18.880
be my. Puppet you're gonna do AS i. Say you're

677
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.159
gonna sit WHEN i say, sit and then you're gonna

678
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.039
do this. Show and, uh this is how we're going

679
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.400
to cover up all this mess because it's in connection

680
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:29.559
with all of our. Ship, so, uh this is what

681
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:33.079
we're gonna have to do in order to keep everything

682
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:34.239
going how they wanted to be.

683
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:36.920
Going, WELL i think it was interesting because it was

684
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.119
you that introduced us to the fact That John walsh

685
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:43.000
did not WANT fbi involvement in the solving of his son's,

686
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:45.760
crime yet he then teams up with them On America's

687
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.679
Most wanted to help them solve their. Crimes i'm a little.

688
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:56.360
That was the only law enforcement official that Endorsed America's Most.

689
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:59.280
Wanted he makes that clear and one of the early

690
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.119
commercials where it comes on like in between. You you're

691
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.440
watching a, show and it's like, saying what make sure

692
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:12.559
you Watch America's Most wanted because we're the only television

693
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.480
show that is endorsed by THE. Fbi and he says

694
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:17.599
it just like. That i've heard it so many. Times but,

695
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:24.199
yeah oh he makes that. Clear and so but in

696
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:27.840
the but in the case, files they he, said, no

697
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.440
we don't need THE. Fbi we got this. Covered we

698
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.639
got a good group of law enforcement that's working on.

699
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:36.880
This blah blah blah in the. Beginning so.

700
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.239
All, right so let's let's go. THROUGH i don't know

701
00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:44.679
why my. Okay so this is one of the first.

702
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:48.440
Letters it looks like it may be a complete uh uh.

703
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:53.199
COMMUNICATION i do not have envelopes for. This but the

704
00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:56.800
letter is signed off As, scorpion and it, SAYS i

705
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:00.119
am your worst nightmare coming. True my true identity is

706
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:02.760
not known to you yet and hopefully will not be

707
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:06.199
for a long. Time your show is more, exciting, interesting

708
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:09.320
and factual than in any ship falled movie or. Series

709
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:12.880
i've recently moved Into New jersey and began a new crime.

710
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:16.599
SPREE i am currently responsible for twenty three unsolved, crimes

711
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:20.519
ranging from arson to brewery to, sabotage, homicide and occasionally

712
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:23.840
everything in. BETWEEN i strongly advise that you keep this

713
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:27.000
letter and start a rather large, file since you will

714
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.000
be hearing from me. AGAIN i have enclosed a rather

715
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:35.519
difficultly encoded message containing information that will prove rather useful to.

716
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:38.800
You this code took a lot of time and effort

717
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:42.159
to develop and hopes that it will DEFEAT fbi AND cia.

718
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:45.480
Codebreakers anything you wish to tell me or ask me

719
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:48.719
can be conveyed to me on your. Show this is

720
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:52.079
it becomes a common reach. Out we're going to see

721
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:56.519
it With Tom, Voyd we're seeing it With John. Walsh

722
00:43:56.679 --> 00:44:00.079
the identity not being known yet kind of falls in

723
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:02.400
line with The christmas card that came out in nineteen

724
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:07.000
ninety which indicated guess who you? Know he's dressed in a,

725
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.760
disguise no doubt due to the show airing and it's

726
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.199
still being an unsolved case on The, Zodiac jack requested

727
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.360
a book On John walsh after seeing his release Of

728
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:19.639
The Zodiac Unsolved. Mystery the listing of the crimes that

729
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:22.599
this suspect has committed is not unlike The zodiac claiming

730
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.280
that he will commit in the. Future so if you remember,

731
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:29.280
Correctly zodiac, Indicated i'm not going to announce it to.

732
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:32.280
Anyone WHEN i commit my, murders they shall look like routine,

733
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:36.000
robberies killings of, anger and a few fake, accidents. Etc

734
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:42.280
so even in the linguistics and the message attempting to

735
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.320
be portrayed is very similar to what The zodiac has.

736
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:48.119
Said now keep coming up real.

737
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:53.159
Quick so the similarities you just mentioned about about you

738
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:55.800
don't know MY i didn't, andy blah blah. Blah if

739
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.199
you remember just that letter we just, READ i don't

740
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:01.159
know his, name he doesn't know mine.

741
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.679
Exactly, yes it does fall in with the Whole i'm

742
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.440
keeping everything a, secret and it's a guessing, game which

743
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.599
is exactly the communication portrayed on The christmas card which,

744
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:15.079
said guess is.

745
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:17.480
That the old Little Jack rabbit by The? Snowman?

746
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:21.440
Yes, yeah and that just came out in nineteen. Ninety

747
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:23.920
that's What i'm, saying is that he's been ramping up

748
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:26.639
all of a. Sudden now this coincides With jack having

749
00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:30.639
retired From Hewlett packard as a contract security. Guard but

750
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:33.800
as he's, retiring we're starting to see all of these

751
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:37.480
communications emerge as if he's just you, know piping up to,

752
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.800
say hey, Folks i'm still. Here so now he's accepting

753
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:44.000
responsibility for crimes in The New jersey. Area zodiac sent

754
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:46.960
A christmas card with copies of two postmaster keys with serial.

755
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:49.760
Numbers Now i'm not sure whether or Not harriet was

756
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.519
correct on, this but she indicated that these postal code

757
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:55.960
numbers went To, Princeton New, jersey and one was an

758
00:45:56.000 --> 00:46:00.599
international post office box. Key now that is contradict obviously

759
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:03.800
By Tom voyd And Sandy, betts who claimed that they

760
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:06.960
ran down these postal key numbers and located it to

761
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.679
some gentlemen In, eureka which we know The zodiac has

762
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:15.719
connections To. Eureka so it's. Interesting but there's a lot

763
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:20.920
of things That Tom boyd has been portrayed as somebody

764
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:24.400
who can't be trusted with his information nor his. Research

765
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:26.719
So i'm not really sure IF i buy into any

766
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:29.840
of the facts that he had gone and visited this

767
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.599
individual with a post office box in eurekain that those

768
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:34.840
keys went, there or if it was just a way

769
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:39.480
for him to disinform the public in regards to where

770
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:41.239
these keys actually link back.

771
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:45.159
To but, quick, broquick before we get off this. Subject

772
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:50.119
so WHENEVER i was doing, RESEARCH i actually researched Who

773
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:54.280
Charlie kerr, was AND i actually found this article that

774
00:46:54.320 --> 00:47:00.000
where somebody was Saying Charlie kerr is who also identified

775
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.800
The charlie In Paul bonacci's account of an abduction of his.

776
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:07.719
Abduction and this is if you, know if you're familiar

777
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.840
With Paul, bonacci he was the crazy guy that they

778
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:14.800
said that was, crazy that was involved In Johnny gosh's

779
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:22.400
kidnapping in nineteen eighty, two that this was An iowa was.

780
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.559
He a big, bearded barefoot. PERSON i don't.

781
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:31.039
KNOW i have to start for a. Picture but they're

782
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:33.840
saying that he was involved in an interstate pedophile. Ring

783
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.679
his involvement in pedophilia is documented in police, reports and

784
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:42.519
he attached the police reports. Here the chance That bonacci

785
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:46.679
would identify This Suex city area With iowa farmhouse owner

786
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:49.559
Named charlie as part of the child trafficking ring there

787
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:50.519
is in fact A.

788
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:54.440
Okay So i'm not sure how This you've lost me

789
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:57.079
as to how this even fits into what we have

790
00:47:57.199 --> 00:47:58.760
going on here with The scorpion.

791
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:06.360
Letters so it connects to this pedophile. Ring so SO

792
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:08.880
i think that they were part of This zodiac.

793
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:12.079
Ring but was that In New? Jersey how did you

794
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:12.480
make this?

795
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:16.840
CONNECTION i was just going back to that letter of

796
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:18.400
The Charlie kerr. LETTER i just.

797
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:21.400
Can't, okay but that's being written To, charlie not From

798
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:22.679
charlie And charlie.

799
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:23.599
Exactly so that's.

800
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:27.719
What so we got two Different charlie's going on, here all.

801
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:31.440
Right Charlie kerr that it named, him actually his whole,

802
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:32.800
name so.

803
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:35.039
Okay, yeah AND i don't. KNOW i, mean this Is

804
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:38.039
Charlie reese that is being written to at The Sentinel.

805
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:40.880
Star So Charlie kerr And Charlie reese are to different.

806
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:45.199
People let's, See zodiac was known to predict his crimes

807
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:46.920
in the. Future this may have been a ploy to

808
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:49.639
say where he was going to going, next if actually

809
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:52.679
received in nineteen ninety, one or if it was received

810
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.280
AS i believed to have seen in two thousand and

811
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:58.360
one and was discussing what he had just. Done SO

812
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:01.360
i also thought maybe there was connection if they're trying

813
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:03.639
to backdate this and say that they've been sitting on

814
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:05.880
these for fifteen, years when really they only sat on

815
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.719
them for about five and these letters were mailed in

816
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:12.760
two thousand and one following the anthrax. ATTACKS i believe

817
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:15.719
there was approximately twenty some victims involved in. That that

818
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:17.719
would make sense out of the postal keys going To,

819
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:20.880
Princeton New. Jersey it would actually kind of wrap a

820
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:24.880
lot of things up if these letters were were received

821
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:27.760
at a different timeframe in which they are trying to

822
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:31.480
let us believe either, way they withheld it from us

823
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:34.079
for so, long how are we supposed to believe when

824
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:37.719
they actively received these. Communications but for, NOW i have

825
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:41.039
it chronologically in nineteen ninety. One all, right we're about

826
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:43.320
ten seconds out from the show. Ending we didn't get

827
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:44.239
as far AS i want to.

828
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:49.760
Do, yes do we have the copies of the Other scorpion.

829
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:53.119
Letters, Yes we're gonna go over those Next. Friday so,

830
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:55.480
EVERYBODY i want to thank You, lindsey thank You, dolan

831
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:57.760
and we'll see you guys Next friday as we continue

832
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:01.000
with The John Walsh scorpion. Letters take, care And.

833
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:03.639
I'm gonna look in the case files two for anything

834
00:50:03.679 --> 00:50:05.199
in relation to The scorpion.

835
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:07.639
Beautiful all, right you, guys take.

836
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:31.719
CARE i have a Great, yeah