Harriette Sucher Solves Special

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True seekers and true crime junkies.
Welcome back to another episode of Hit the

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Road Jack Finding the Zodiac. Today. We have a great show for you

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on the seventy two hour eve of
the nine to eleven events. Another anniversary

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coming around for that, so I
thought we would kind of hold a little

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vigil in regards to the nine to
eleven events and discuss some possible solves in

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these communications. I'm going to go
ahead and start today with backing up to

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last week, and we're going to
take a look at the presentation where we

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left off, and then we'll climb
right on into the information I have to

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deliver. Today. We talked a
little bit about this Zodiac call to a

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radio station in Oklahoma City. We
know that Jack is very, very informed

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about radio stations. We know that
as a ham radio operator. It means

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that he knew how to get communications
around through teletype and other avenues. At

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the same time, we also know
that there are several communications that actually are

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written aside from two newspapers, but
also two radio stations, which seems to

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be a Zodiac EMO in many of
these crimes. The reason for the interest

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in the one that was in Oklahoma
City is because Jack actually has a PO

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box in Oklahoma and he has family
ties to Oklahoma City, and we'll be

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talking about that later in nineteen eighty
when he is listed as an heirror in

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a will. And it also is
kind of confirmed by what Dennis said,

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which was that Jack maintained a PO
box in Oklahoma because that's where he would

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pick up marijuana, which, interestingly
enough, that means that marijuana was going

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through the post office. I'm not
sure how it would be unbeknownst to them

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or how it could get around without
somebody being involved with that, but it

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leads back to the ability to get
things around through the mail that Jack was

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very very well at doing. Another
article that really interested me was one that

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said Zodiac called the Clumsy Criminal.
It does say that these mistakes as well

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as others that the police wouldn't elaborate
on. Says that the boast of being

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in the area where we were searching
while we were searching it is a lie.

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So he said I think his name
was Lee, Sergeant Lee or something

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like that, is indicating that the
Zodiac killer was lying about having been in

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the park while they were searching for
him, which would be interesting because then

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how would the Zodiac know what they
were doing or be able to repeat what

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it was that they were doing in
his upcoming communications if he didn't or wasn't

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there, or he didn't have some
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But even more interesting was this section
down here at the bottom portion right here

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that says knife attack leads investigators to
consider that the Zodiac may be a latent

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homosexual. His cryptic writings and hand
letter boasts don't indicate this, but the

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way in which he wielded the knife
does hint it. The knife fell again

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and again and formed the mistress and
its spelled incorrectly symbol like the crosshairs of

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a gun sight that has come to
be Zodiac home mark. So clearly this

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article was written after he accepts the
Zodiac statement or that he is the Zodiac.

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The newspaper is stating that the Zodiac
Killers stabbed his insignia into Cecilia Shephard

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based on what this article is saying, unless there's another victim out there that

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they're referring to. But they do
head it with Baryessa. So this is

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obviously again after September twenty seventh,
or the attacks at Lake Barriessa. I'm

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gonna check to see if there's any
consistency with other victims. This might have

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been information that was released, or
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I'm not sure. So the first
time I'd heard that he actually stabbed

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in the pattern of the Zodiac,
but I'm going to keep my eye out

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for those kind of things. I
believe we already talked about one victim who,

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while she was stabbed all over the
chest, that they specifically missed the

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breast area on purpose. Was that
in order to form the design that he

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was looking for, because the circle
with crosshairs might validly have missed those air

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he is I toyed around with the
idea for a long time that the Zodiac

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Killer communications needed to be printed in
the newspaper to get them to his handlers

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or co conspirators, and that there's
possibility that the newspapers were facilitating these messages

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coming back and forth between individuals that
are part of a group. Her seems

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to be somewhere in the mix.
Always in order for the newspapers to take

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him serious, he needed to kill
or commit some type of a crime that

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was painous enough in order to get
that message printed. I've also considered that

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he may be the author for a
group of individuals, or he is the

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postman, if you will, and
some task for a higher authority. The

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new theory that we're going to be
looking at might explain why some believe that

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the Zodiac Killer took credit for crimes
he didn't commit, and why some believe

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that there is a group of people
involved. I was discussing this week's show

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with my boyfriend about new messages sent
to the Zodiac Killer through the newspaper,

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and he came upon a legitimate hypothesis
based on Zodiac as a whole and as

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the message to the Zodiac Killer.
We will see call Libra and the two

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upcoming messages to Cancer and Leah,
which I believe discusses the dB Cooper upcoming

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hijacking and the my name is cipher
that clearly outlines the tour symbol three times

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with thirteen symbols. That might very
well be that one zodiac as a whole

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or a group, and the twelve
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Jack had a fence fascination with Constellation
mountains in Arizona, and he told a

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story to Dennis that three men,
including himself, had gone into these mountains,

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but only two came out, which
would have indicated to Dennis that one

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of them had been killed. So
what if the statement this is the Zodiac

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speaking is meant to refer to a
group and is signed off as a group

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with the Zodiac killer symbol. I
do not recall at this time if there

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are any communications that specifically says I
am the Zodiac Killer, and intend to

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keep a lookout for this reference as
we go through the continuing communications. It

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would reinforce the notion of the WII
that was found in the Zodiac Killer or

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I'm Sorry in the John Banny Ramsey
note and the Anthrax nine to eleven two

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thousand and one communications. As we're
going to see in Harriet Suche's solves.

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It indicates Jack is telling on others
who committed crimes that he did not.

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It was almost proposed that he was
the mailman as well, so which this

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night explain how he has the ability
to get communications moving in the manner that

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he did. This coupled with Harriet
Salves, is going to bring up some

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interesting questions. And today we actually
have Harriet Suchet with us and Terry Batcher.

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Yes, good morning again morning.
That of my opening right there,

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and I wanted to kind of just
touch bases on some things that you and

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I talked about. You had needed
that believe that these codes have been used

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for hundreds of years? Right?
What was that? Again? Got worth?

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Because now you've let it out,
so go ahead try again. You

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believe that these messages have or these
codes have been being used for years mhm.

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Yes, So I took that trip
back as early as nineteen thirty four

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in regards to Bob lords murder on
the docks back in the East Coast,

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and he had a note that was
pinned to him that said he accidentally knew

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too much, too bad and a
sign off of the zodiac gunsight. Yep,

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Well that's Zodiac apparently, according to
what we're going to very quickly see,

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just like I thought that it's based
off of the design of Washington,

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DC is designed by Charles lan Font
during the Revolutionary War era design of the

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zodiac because everybody that came to this
new country or was about it was coming

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from all over the world that needed
the zodiac to go back and forth.

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So I would say that this has
something to do with a pre Nixon getting

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into that, but he, oh
my god, Nixon was very much involved

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with a lot of this, and
that's what we're going to talk about.

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So let me let me, let
me get us going on this then.

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Ye. So this next half hypothesis
I plan on exploring is based on the

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Zodiac group or movement. The afterthought
of sending a key code to Sergeant Lynch

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might even actually confirm this, because
it had already been publicly announced that the

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Hardens had had us solved to the
four weight. So what was the need

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for this letter if the message had
been solved? What was the need to

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send multiple messages to multiple locations?
These are all questions I hope to answer

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in Harriett Sushi believes that these codes
have been running through an ongoing group for

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hundreds of years, which might explain
the earlier messages. Like I said about

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Bob Lord, Dennis's recollection of a
group of men coming into the memorial where

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Jack's ashes and urn were there for
viewing and paying respect, had picked this

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urn up and walked off with it
without saying a word to the family or

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anyone else, and everybody kind of
just stood there with their jaws agape,

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wondering what the heck was going on, And then Dennis stated that they returned

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that urn after approximately a week.
Dennis also indicated at one point in time

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that he thought that they were going
to close the case and that he was

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going to be meeting with people in
South Lake, Tahoe. And when he

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reached there, he found himself again
surrounded by men in black as he called

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it, so suits and ties,
and they had indicated that he was in

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a safe place as long as he
only visited the Zodiac killer crimes and didn't

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look into anything else, which he
didn't really know what that meant. And

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he was really kind of insistent on
me sticking to the Zodiac. He didn't

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want me to go off into these
other tangents. However, I couldn't help

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but noticing that the handwriting had those
similarities right involved right, and it might

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help confirm the Z at the bottom
of the Sherry Joe Bates messages as being

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a sign off for a group.
You know, everybody wants to argue whether

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or not these are twos or these
or z's, but this might have been

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before he adopted, or maybe he
didn't want to associate just yet. The

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gunsight symbol as the group has used
into these communications at that point in time.

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But we're going to be looking at
some decodes and we're going to be

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talking about how that group might operate. Going back to last week, we

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had the personal ad in the San
Francisco Chronicle on August twenty seventh of nineteen

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seventy six. So this is a
wee bit ahead of its time, but

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I want you to understand how these
are rolling out. The personal ad read

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zodiac. Your partner is in deep
real estate. You are next. The

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Imperial Wizard can save you. Surrender
to him, or I'll terminate your case.

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Are a well. While I was
on a message board, I looked

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at someone who had mentioned that that
wasn't necessarily least some type of a threat

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as much as if you read it
backwards it would read as a threat.

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And so I looked at that,
and well, let's just say, because

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the orange checks solve on the three
forty cipher indicates there was an entire section

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that was written backwards, there is
a good hypothesis that this message too reads

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backwards, and that person wrote in
that case the poster. The poster indicated

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that the message would read r A. I'll I'll terminate your case, surrender

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to him. The Imperial Wizard can
save you your next Your partner is in

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deep real estate Zodiac, so would
make it sound as though the message is

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actually coming from the Zodiac or the
group the Zodiac. Right. That brings

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us to Harriet's solve, which a
couple of years ago. So right,

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yeah, when I when I hit
you up about it, I was shocked

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to hear it was something you had
already done, because I am just now

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recently seeing something like this. But
do you want to go ahead and tell

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us I know that you used all
of the information that was in it,

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and then you did the inagram system
to it correct exactly. I was seeing

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by then a lot of hints about
Marilyn Monroe, the Z would usually be

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for Zodiac and but this time he
used it also for Elizabeth. There's actually

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a bee that you can barely see
in there, but I don't want to

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a peer of force fitting where the
says terminate. It looks like a B

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and a T together. But most
people are going to say, well,

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we're not sure, so I left
that out. That was a couple of

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years ago, and we are seeing
misspellings in the newspapers, all right,

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So what does that message tell us? It says, because this is when

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Ford is now the president, but
you know it's really President Nixon's administration.

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But it's saying, President Nixon,
we received Elizabeth short a A which is

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Arthur Ellen August seven, eight seven, nineteen sixty two, Marilyn Monroe pictures

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Treasury. I think it's seven pieces
of mail, but Treasury Department Zodiac era

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mail documents in order yours, yours
truly. Terrence ed at outer at Uxer.

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I was wondering why what, and
then I looked it up. It

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means Terrence and his wife at the
time, which is Norah. So so

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he's saying that they got they got
the information and that these pictures you're gonna

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find out later. These particular pictures
were used to lure Sam g and Connor

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into complacency that he's going to be
okay because Nixon's out of office now and

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blah blah blah. They actually lured
him with those and so now those particular

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items are being moved and they've finally
got them about a year later. So

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they're just you're a Treasury department.
Of course, you've had messages before that

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you believe yielded that Jack Terrence was
either an high risk for the Treasury.

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You've also you've also had Nixon show
up in several of your communications them.

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Oh my god, go ahead,
keep going, that's okay. Zodiac ara

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male might again indicate that he is
typically the maleman or the person responsible for

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the communications in these particular crimes.
And then let's see here Arthur Lee Allen.

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So we have this Arthur Lee Allen
pop out, and to me,

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that's a pop out because this isn't
seventy six. He is actually being looked

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at as the Zodiac killer. So
you believe that there was he was involved

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with some portion of these items,
and that the murder and maybe his heart

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attack was really a heart attack,
and maybe his heart attack was quite like

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many other heart attacks, which some
people perceived to be a poisoning or a

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suiciding. So either way, we
have Jack coming out and and it's funny

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because when I read the message backwards
and it came up to be from Zodiac,

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your sign off is Jack Terrence,
and that is who we believe is

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the Zodiac. He's the main Zodiac
guy. But there's a huge day,

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o god, right, Well,
if there's a constellation of day, there's

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a lot, there's a large day. We got ten names like a name

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on but that's not why we're here. So well we'll we'll we'll visit those

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later and we'll definitely see how they
hold or ring true to whatever's going on

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now. Another message to the Zodiac
after the Lake Berryessa killing was this particular

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message that went through the newspaper and
it says a message to Zodiac. So

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I'm continually finding these conversations that are
going on in the newspapers. I looked

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at it in both ways. I
looked at it and compared to the solve

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that Orange Chak came up with,
and I found that there were several of

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the symbols that were missing, which
means that it was not likely a code

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that was formed using the three forty, which would be consistent with the fact

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that it had not been solved back
in that day. But we had the

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key code and from Sergeant Lynch,
and that application to this particular message was

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actually a good one. So and
when I when I did it based on

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orange check solved. Like I said, everything here with the question mark means

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that these symbols were not used in
this particular side or these these particular symbols,

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sorry, we're not used in the
three forty cipher. However, these

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symbols were used in the hardened cipher. And after I applied that particular method

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to this message, I came up
with Zodiac called Libra four three three one

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o seven seven or Zodiac call Libra. And I'm not sure the ZIP code

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or where it was that he'd be
pointing this particular number two, but four

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three three ten seventy seven is the
phone number he's being told to call.

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I was more struck by the fact
that it says Zodiac called Libra. So

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we just got done talking about the
Zodiac. We've got done talking about the

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Taurus, the cancer, the Leo, and now we're seeing a message that's

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coming through the newspaper that actually says
called Libra. Well, who the heck

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is Libra? I think you might
have answered that and your solve, if

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your solve is correct, So you
did. You worked this over for me

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after I sent it over to you, and you substituted in your step one,

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you substituted the symbol for the letter
based on the Sergeant lynch keycode letter,

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which is just what I did,
correct pretty much it, but the

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one you added. You added the
words a message to zodiac because, as

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yourselves indicate, you including use all
information, so right, So after you

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did that, then you assigned numbers
and accounted for all the fifty eight letters.

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Correct pretty much, yep. So, and then you and a gramma.

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But that it's easier to keep prrect
that way. It's just how it

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works, so so read it well
and step I'm just trying to give everybody

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the foundation for how you got there. In step three, you anagram the

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all the letters into a message,
and you account for all fifty eight letters

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by numbering the tops of them so
that everybody can see you used every single

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one from the message and your message. Actually, yes, go ahead and

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tell us what this one. Don't
give me the full on, just give

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me what those letters came out to
say. Well, I'm gonna say really

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quickly the two words even says heaven. They were code keyes. So I

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said, oh, I need to
turn this a certain way. Anyways,

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he says z DF you same last
caliber gun. Anyways, he's saying z

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because he just killed Darlene Farren.
He's saying, you, same last caliber

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gun. Execute Orgies see it a
lot, Donna with the clever shot,

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E s r any v or end. But that's is the East Hey,

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Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, hold on, we're going to get

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to that. I just wanted you
to tell them what letters made the message

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that you are now going to comprise
from what you would call, I guess

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an acronym at this point that you
were extremely used to seeing in these particular

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messages. So you know what these
acronyms stand for, and that gives you

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this overall message. So go ahead
and read that for us. It's Zodiac.

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Darlene Farren pause use saying lass pause
caliber gun. So execute order Donna

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with the clever shot, estate line
round or round about Nevada. From Nixon

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Richard Nixon, President, Nixon.
So it's a what it's an execute order.

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He's saying, get ready, there's
now the execute order for Lass,

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which would also make sense that they
are just now currently taught, or that

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in this article they are talking about
I'm sorry, the stabbing of Cecilia Shepherd.

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No, actually, I don't think
I could read this article, so

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I'm not exactly sure it does.
It is saying Hartnell, So they are

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definitely talking about the Lake vary Essa
stuff, And of course that means that

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the murder has already been committed.
So this came at some point after September,

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but I'm not exactly sure of the
date. So I really do need

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to source the article. Who and
when and what does this article say?

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But the message obviously is the key
point here, and that message now appears

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to state that Richard Nixon is actively
writing back the Zodiac. Yep, yeah,

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amazing. Now when I got into
when I got into some of this

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stuff, because of course we had
Donna Lass. I had her up on

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here last week because of Moonlight,
making the statement that she believed that this

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could be Donna Lass's school. It
was found in a laundry bag. She

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did not indicate where, so I'm
gonna again have to source some of this

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information. But I thought, since
we're given the hit order on Donna Lass

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and he wants her to be shot
with the same caliber gun as you said,

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Darling Farren, I don't see any
type of damage to the skull here,

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at least from this view. There
may be something on the other side

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I can't see, but we're that
message would then indicate that he was to

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shoot and take her out correct it
was to do. I believe it ended

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up being both. He shoots her
with the gun, but he'd actually drugged

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her first, gotcha with the same
step that was used against Marilyn Monroe.

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So and so she's and every but
he's got her to the roundabout he shoots

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her there. Well, and everybody
needs to know that Jack working for South

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Lake Tahoe Linen Company, obviously having
access to laundry bags and uniforms and other

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types of laundry that is processed through
this plant, would actually tie into some

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truth with this. I know that
there are other other murders. I guess

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Moonlight has indicated there are other murders
where the remains were found inside of laundry

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bags. I know in the Oakland
County child killer case. He actually taught

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the accomplice. And I say that
with heavy air quotes writing to doctor Danto

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says that you know he brings them
in and stuff stuffed in clothes hampers.

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No one here knows the difference.
So it sounds to me like it's a

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really good way for the mob to
move things, as in laundry bags and

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through laundry companies. And we did
I think we've talked about in the past

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several murders that occurred in the San
Francisco area where there were folded uniforms or

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laundry working its way up or away
from the crime scene. Okay, so

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we'll be getting to those in the
future as well. That brings us to

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this card that's actually written to Richard
Nixon, which may play into the whole

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Hymn and Richard Nixon are happing this
conversation. Hard to do this one right

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next in line for me, and
I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna

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tell you why you have to do
this one because I got extremely interested in

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it. After looking at some of
the lettering, we do see that this

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one is mailed to Richard Nixon in
nineteen seventy four. The website that I

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founded on indicated they questioned it as
a Zodiac communication, but they also questioned

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it as to whether or not it
was written from the SLA. When we

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know that the Zodiac wrote a SLA
Norse word means kill a friend, and

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we know that that's adverse to what
the SLA movement is, which they are

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very concerned with the way blacks are
being treated, the misconduct by the police

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officers at the time, the underreporting
of the information in the newspaper, or

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the disinformation that the newspapers printing against
those black lives that have been killed.

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And then they're calling out Hurst.
So there's this great, big, huge

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conglomeration of people we're very upset with
Hurst, and I think that Hurst is

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being you, well, he's probably
right up in the mix of this whole

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entire thing. I would probably have
to put some money on that. Anyways,

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let's take a look at this card
real quick, and I'm just gonna

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show you a few letters. The
first one I noticed was the letter end

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Terry B. You're gonna love this. These are actually the ends from the

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secret Witness letter from Yeah. So
I automatically when I saw that in I

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was like, oh, I got
goose bumps right now. I'm like,

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oh my gosh, I know that, and let me go see where I

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found it before. So again tying
back into and it's really kind of more

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the era because this postcard is nineteen
seventy four, and the Oakland County child

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murders begin in nineteen seventy six.
I actually think they begin a little earlier.

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There's a series of murders that are
a few years before that, and

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that the seventy six seventy seven murders
were the ending of it. But law

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enforcement did not smack those killings of
children together, so they are kind of

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bifurcated, and they don't look like
it's the same killer, at least that's

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the way they make it look.
I also noticed the letter G. This

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is Jack's G. We've got this
heavy overhang of the G that's falling over

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sideways, again very similar to what
Jack does. We also have that wide

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fat number six almost looking G.
This one I believe I pulled out of

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I think the Atlanta Child Georgia killer
letters that that particular G. I did

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look at Jack's z's the concern or
the this would have been the Channel nine

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news letter Z right here as reference
to the Z that's found in here.

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And then of course I started to
see all these wonky t's from the Atlanta,

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Georgia stuff, and those wonky t's
definitely we see all the way throughout,

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and that T that doesn't cross all
the way over, so it stops

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just short before it passes to the
right, as seen in one of the

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Anthrax letters. We can actually see
that occurring up here in these as well.

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Also that can't bring these traits,
you know, they're all for a

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reason, and that those concave t
bars that we're seeing again here with that

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pressure from above, which could be
pressure from his handlers or others that he's

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working with. Either way. I
also took a look at the capitol N

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in Nixon. This is Jackson,
this is the end and the Tom Void

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letter and this is the end in
the which one did I pull that one

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from? Oh my gosh, probably
should have labeled that either way. This

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has taken from the presentation on the
handwriting that I've already done with everybody,

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and I just wanted to take some
quick looks and see how it fared out

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and whether or not I was gonna
want to take a look at it,

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but I also recognize other ends in
there that are consistent with the communications,

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the w and the way that it's
formed, and so I'm going to do

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a complete rundown on this, but
we're gonna wait until nineteen seventy four for

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that to happen. However, this
postcard, the making of a Zodiac killer

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communication is the fact that it is
a postcard. It names Patty Hurst,

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which we know is oh, definitely
delivering great news right for her father to

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sell lots and lots and lots of
newspapers with her being involved with a bank

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robbery. It is to Richard Nixon, which is confirming some of your solves,

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Harriet. I did take note to
the letters that we just discussed.

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It does say concerned citizen, which
is a Zodiac reference as well. It

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has the sideways Christmas stamp up here
at the top, and it may even

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be over postaged. I'm not sure
what a postcard ran back in these days,

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but this is an eight cent stamp
that's applied sideways here for freedom runs

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us back to the dB Revolution,
the Georgette Bauerdorf, Divine Retribution and the

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Black dawyat justified or the statements that
he makes that I have to or I

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must kill you. It's a have
to more than I want to, is

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what he makes it sound like.
That same stamp is used on the dB

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Cooper, one of the dB Cooper
lads, that exact same stamp. Can

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I point out a couple of things? Oh? Absolutely, well, you

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know it's the quotation marks on a
white house there. Yes, and also

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the W is two vs. Yes. That's why I would say that that

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same structure does that say dear King
on the upper left hand corner? It

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does? And I was kind of
wondering Tim King as in Tim King pending,

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which I've told you he been threatening
to kill Tim King since nineteen sixty

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nine, right, and this is
just two years two three years previous to

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the king. Look at the structure
of the letters like with Patty Hurst,

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and wow, that thing's old for
bear, isn't it. It's just yes,

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yes, it is. Either again
is a group of people who are

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working together, that are they know
all of the facts in order to be

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able to compile or put something like
this together. Clearly big never almost it

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says their daughter or dag Actually,
oh, that G. That G with

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the square around it is one of
the ones from my handwriting presentation and over

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the top. Yeah, yeah,
we continue dh ht e R though,

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isn't it. No, there's a
U in there, it's just behind the

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G. So I've covered up some
of the information two sections all right,

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well yeah it would be DUG and
then ht e R. Right, that's

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cool, that's very cool that way. Why structure, I mean tell you

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structure wow the whole right, Yeah, it's screaming Jack one O one,

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it is absolutely absolutely they're cool.
And then look here's that. Here's another

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one of those number six g's.
You know what, can I say something

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really quick? When you see my
souls I do I have to purposely do

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something with the G. We got
the health helicopter to go to the last

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middle. Anyways, I notice I'm
doing the same thing. I think Jack

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is probably trying to say, this
is supposed to be a GE, not

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a six. So clarifying because I
have that same problem. So where am

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I getting this from? Yeah?
Or duplicity is what you're saying more than

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one thing, that's for sure.
Absolutely there's two and three messages and that's

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what we're finding. So clearly even
with the message that came to the zodiac

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or a message for the zodiac when
I when I, when I solved it,

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it's saying called Libra. Who's Libra? And what does this phone number

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go too? I think? But
that l for g Gordon Liddy. I

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don't know who that is. Oh. G Gordon Liddy was his White House

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lawyer. But also he was very
much involved with Nixon at that time period

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and the Watergate erasta. He was
a fixer for A. Nix and he

404
00:31:55.160 --> 00:32:00.079
was a was he one of the
plumbers or something called He's help? He

405
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:05.720
was evolved. He was you do
anything for Nixon? He was totally because

406
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.440
I think I got some messages for
that are involving Gigordan Lyddy that were meant

407
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:14.319
for Nixon. You know passes through
this. I got hundreds of these by

408
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:16.680
now. But anyways, that's that's
just an educated guest. The il would

409
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:21.640
be for Lyddy. But let's move
in, let's move into those anthrax solves.

410
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:25.400
I mean clearly you used you said, a stenographic method on this particular

411
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:30.519
one, but it accounts for all
the letters. Once again, like the

412
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:34.640
system we just showed, and this
is the message that you came up with,

413
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:37.599
So maybe you can read this to
us and then tell us what it

414
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:44.519
means. Jack is very crazy at
this time, so I was very blown

415
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:46.680
away by this. Ill. This
is two thousand and one, so this

416
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:52.960
is like September eighteen or something like
that, following the attack on the Twin

417
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:57.160
Towers. These are letters that are
mailed with anthrax by a fourth grader,

418
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:00.559
which will address at another time.
But I did make the connection between the

419
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:05.799
fourth grader, So yes, go
ahead and read that solve to us.

420
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.640
This is which which one is?
Which letter is this one? Let's see?

421
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:19.519
Okay, this is I think Dashell
special. Yeah, yeah, well

422
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.480
I called it a nine to eleven, so anthrax nine to eleven special,

423
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:29.480
so I know. Right. So
here's the crazy thing. We know that

424
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:31.960
the zodiac writes Tom Void in two
thousand and two and two thousand and three

425
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:38.039
person's letters to him. Here Harriet's
saying that the solve, albeit it's a

426
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:45.440
anthrax letter mailed to Dashel, it's
actually a message when decoded to Tom Void.

427
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:47.960
So let's let her read it and
and then we can all talk about

428
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:54.000
it. It's convoy location, the
z and the zero he's been a million

429
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.799
zeros. I had to put z's
in them so I wouldn't get confused.

430
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:04.200
So this is Tom Voyd lowated at
sixteen thirty one Broadway Northeast, number three

431
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:09.360
thirty two, Portland, Oregon.
Stop Petty Fight with Dennis mom tattle Tale

432
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:17.440
show Most Wanted, America's Most Wanted. That was located at Anyways twelve twenty

433
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:22.480
eight ninety eight. That was the
show I sent anthrax. Diane Icu,

434
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:30.400
you're correct regarding swindle leebauers the second
and then EO for execute order. So

435
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:36.920
this EO f n J. That's
Farred and Jensen, EO Farren, EO

436
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:45.280
Sheppard, EO Stein, EO last
dB Cooper nineteen fifty two, USO Entertainment

437
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:51.119
attorney Warren Andrews, fifty two years
old. Lanzend die June twenty second,

438
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:58.599
seventy five, Gen Kanna die June
nineteen seventy five. John Bannet nineteen ninety

439
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:05.800
six, Get even O seven twelve
oh one. That's a long story,

440
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:09.239
but anyways, now he's saying to
tell the truth. Circa nineteen forty two,

441
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:17.239
Richard Nixon suggested use seventeen eighty two
seceded era Zodiac design. I have

442
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:22.440
a ring with that on there.
Oh my god, come wincidence anyways,

443
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:29.440
seceded era Zodiac design DC District of
Columbia, Charles L. Zodiac design and

444
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.760
then it's the location and a Z
with the zero in it for ground zero

445
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.199
code. And then he's saying he's
trying to talk to all of us.

446
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:44.320
FYI, Sergeant Lynch card is an
instagram that says to use Zodiac letter located

447
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:50.480
on three ports cipher watch four using
the word for anyways, miss belt words

448
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:58.039
and odd puntuation, then choose code
keys for message. Nineteen seventies President John

449
00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:06.440
F. Kennedy autopsy located photos located
under Earth Rice stamp sent October twenty eight,

450
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:10.360
nineteen seventy. That's a Halloween card
envelope. And he's saying President Carter

451
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:16.559
refused to pay so I rab Marlago
of Eisenhower fingerprint coin toy. It's a

452
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:22.840
biometric anyways. Now he's going on
to Texas I forty five killer. He's

453
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.440
pissed off that people are blaming him
for things he did not do. So

454
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:32.920
he's saying, Texas I forty five
killer wrong, NASA past table evenge Colombia

455
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:40.800
Broadcasting System North American singer Janis killed
by knockout Collette Wilson. I E is

456
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:46.199
thereafter Gonzalez. That's then r A
that's robert Able, and then Paul D.

457
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:52.519
Craven both of them killed his own
sister. Paul D. Craven is

458
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:58.559
a Nasaki too anyways, killed Alison
Craven. Then I E this thereafter r

459
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:02.360
A killed Brace Swelling Gear. There
are two Brenda k Jones, that's true.

460
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:07.039
I got to them both decoded.
Negro was killed by John Edward Walsh.

461
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:12.440
The second the white Brenda k Jones
and father was killed by Brevet.

462
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.880
Then adding RAA, which is robert
Able. He's involved in that too,

463
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:22.840
John and ed Bell, Oh my
god. Then he's saying ed Bell killed

464
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:29.360
Kimberly Pitchford, and then Michael Lloyd's
self killed Sean Johnson. They actually were

465
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:34.360
rested for that. But anyways,
Susie Q Bowers killed by Robert the last

466
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:40.480
same last name as Letha exactly sow
as Susie Q Bowers killed by r that's

467
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:45.320
robert Able. Pest. Then he
goes on to something really big. Pest

468
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:52.840
and Nasa Ralph Casa Santo killed the
following Harold and Tina Klaus nineteen eighty I

469
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:59.000
e. Then that means afterwards,
thereafter Garvey nineteen eighty two. Thereafter I

470
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:06.079
e nineteen eighty three. Thereafter it's
Lord Miller nineteen eighty four, thereafter Prude

471
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:07.840
Home. I hadn't done Prude Home, but he's saying it right here.

472
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:13.960
That's who killed prude Home nineteen ninety
one. Then he's saying currently lately.

473
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.760
I copy. Now he's crazy.
I mean, he's just way out there.

474
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:22.360
I copy Hyatt Regency, Princeton location
zero eight five four zero. That's

475
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:28.000
the zip code security guard on duty
cut face out tape, my Terence face

476
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:36.360
in use CIA as eisenhowerd coin fingerprint
toy biometric plus the dB Cooper code seven

477
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:43.360
one seven one seven one six eight
four at the Department of Defense location which

478
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:47.400
is Frederick anyways, and got the
webmons great Anthrax and Rice and two.

479
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:52.480
He's all, I mean, he's
oh my god. Then he says success.

480
00:38:52.960 --> 00:39:00.119
And I sent five number ten USPS
postal stationary envelope with one MD anthrax

481
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:07.199
to Tom Dashall location. And he's
just putting in for this particular decode the

482
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:12.039
entire zip code of Washington, DC
where the white house is located. He's

483
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:17.760
wiping. He's crazy. So anyways, and so that's he had a Capitol

484
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.800
Hill white house everything. But anyways, he's saying, also to the location

485
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.679
of NBC, the location for Winn
as Kathy Winn, she's a Vietnam spy.

486
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.960
Anyways, then he's just saying,
asshole a Connecticut. That's a bush

487
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:38.599
connection. And then he's saying an
editor Stevens. And he explains why he's

488
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:43.320
going after editor Stevens. It's pictures
that he ended up in and it got

489
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:46.559
sold to Ami with that he killed
John and a Ramsey. Anyways, he's

490
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:50.320
then saying, and this is true
if you look at the stories, Oh

491
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:54.280
my god, thirty percent spores with
perena dog food crumbs to New York Ghost.

492
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:59.159
That was true. They found it. It was hadnt dog food crumbs

493
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.480
in it. And then he's saying, FYI for your information, Barry Essa

494
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:09.280
located hood is inside voted most ugliest
man. That's Janis Joplin PA system and

495
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:16.679
they signed it off as Zodiac.
He's crazy And I completely explain. I

496
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:22.159
had to identify everything on these envelopes. Everything I have, I think I

497
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:27.519
have, I think they have note
pad paper that either has Hyatt or Hilton

498
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.079
on it. That yes, that
Jack had formed a message of So I'm

499
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:35.280
going to go back and see if
that from the giant Regency Prince stuff.

500
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:40.239
Well, you you said he used
everything everything ID identify the envelope. I

501
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:46.159
think this is the Dashel one.
So so it you had to give the

502
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:51.880
full name of Tom Thomas Joseph Dashel
and trying to remember and then the correct

503
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.480
address he had They put the wrong
address. Then he had to correct the

504
00:40:54.519 --> 00:41:02.760
address, and then everything because this
is a particular it's a giant stamped that's

505
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:09.320
pre stamped, and he's saying that
the eagle is there's so much information.

506
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:16.440
I had to identify everything about that
and then anagrammed. And that's amazing.

507
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:22.360
It's a fact that they said that
I read the dog food from in the

508
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:28.119
New York Post. And where did
Jack work? Briefly? At wasn't he

509
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:31.760
something to do with as a security
guard. Yes, he worked for Peerena

510
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:37.239
Mills in Arizona, and I want
to say nineteen eighty three, nineteen eighty

511
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.599
five, something like that. Yeah, No, that it is. It's

512
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:45.199
it's nailing on some things. So
basically his letter then to tim Miller.

513
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:51.480
Stating that he was the last one
to have seen his daughter alive and more

514
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.519
doesn't necessarily mean that he's taking credit
for having killed her, but he does

515
00:41:55.559 --> 00:42:00.280
mention at the bottom of that letter
from tim Miller that the the Blue Devil

516
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:07.320
or the League City Devil nasa Able
was not the devil that was being sought

517
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:14.039
because he's still alive. As Robert, the guy who's still alive, I

518
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:20.079
have that. Yeah, I think
Robert a supposedly society is still alive.

519
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:22.320
So he's trying to say, and
that's I have that whole thing to code

520
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:27.760
it. I got forty five pages
of work done that ended up. I

521
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:30.280
think it's ten pages for the salt. I have a friend who said,

522
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:34.119
I think you've got a whole book
out of that. I wasn't intending this.

523
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:38.079
I was trying to finish the Texas
I forty five pillar cases and if

524
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:40.679
you could allow me to read,
Yeah, I don't know a lot of

525
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:45.199
these names, so it'll be interesting
as I catch up with you about who

526
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:52.440
all these people are. He's he's
let's get back to this because there's another

527
00:42:52.480 --> 00:43:00.920
solve where he identifies exactly who's the
asshole at Connecticut. That's it. It's

528
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:07.760
utterly. It's utterly lang start,
yo, stepson Dennis Kaufman. Or let's

529
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:10.679
see which one is this one?
Well, I want to say that this

530
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:15.679
one is pretty much the same thing. Portland almost okay, Lee, Okay,

531
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:19.679
he's interesting. Oh my god,
he's he's saying a lot here.

532
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:23.920
Okay, it changes it a little
bit. I had to readdo the Patrick

533
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:27.800
Joseph. Okay, we only got
six minutes left. So if you're gonna

534
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.280
get this solve out, let's get
it out. Okay, this is again

535
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:35.199
everything that was on the envelope,
and okay, all kinds of stuff.

536
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:38.920
So let's go for it. Okay. Tomboy location sixteen thirty one Broadway,

537
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:43.960
Northeast, number three thirty two,
Portland, Oregon. Stop petty, oh,

538
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:50.400
this is this top pitty fight still
hold on in a second. So

539
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:54.519
okay, tattletale, let's see show
America's okay. So how about this one,

540
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:58.880
yo, stepson Dennis Kaufman. Oh
my god, can I read that?

541
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:02.000
Can you make it a little bit? I cannot from where I'm at.

542
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:06.159
You don't have it? I got
it? Hold on? Oh my

543
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:08.239
god, where's my Oh there's my
book? I can get this on here,

544
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:12.079
I'll be really quick or I can. I can read it, because

545
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:15.039
we've literally only got about six minutes
now, and I still have to sign

546
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:22.320
art Yo yo stepson Dennis Kaufman.
Nora called December twenty eight, ninety eight.

547
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:28.239
I sent anthrax. Read Oh,
I'm sorry. I sent anthrax mail

548
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:31.519
mother Die, I see you.
And this is true because Norah has already

549
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:37.119
passed, right, Yeah, I
have it. He's just he's trying to

550
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:43.639
recap and saying with I Avenge sixty
eight East, Oh, it is to

551
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:54.440
read Okay grenade victim sp four jet
Jesse Coon pursue, pursue Warren f Andrew's

552
00:44:54.559 --> 00:45:02.679
nephew Alan friend TUTSI bicycle hit Harryman
taught tran Now missing thirty year Treasury Bill

553
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:07.440
seven twelve of OH one. I
shot her in League City, she die.

554
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:13.679
I dumped Continental East Mattagorda Bay,
Texas Lately, I access Department of

555
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:20.280
Defense, Fort Dietrich aimestring with CIA
fingerprint, Eisenhower toy plus the code seven

556
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:25.119
one seven one seven one six eight
four. Please please to see ear Ie

557
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:31.000
ear throat worker who escaped when Saigon
fell, war spy newion in blue and

558
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:39.719
Gray scrubs Ppe on NBC after Twin
Towers fell. I e therefore thereafter on

559
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:47.400
CD in oh what happened? Okay, go ahead, let's see it,

560
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:52.679
says Yo. Let's just uh,
let's get past the bicycle hit Harmon.

561
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:58.559
He's he's avenging Jesse James Cohen saved
his son Denny and the Mekong Delta and

562
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:04.000
taught Tran was driving. So that
was a passionable thing. So he just

563
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:08.440
got busted. What was that that
that? Jesse James? He just he's

564
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:13.599
he just landed in federal prison,
I believe for for drug trafficking. Oh

565
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:17.320
no, Jesse, Jesse, you
gotta you gotta crack up right now,

566
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:22.800
because you do believe that the Walsh
was involved with the drug trafficking. Tim

567
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:27.119
Miller. That was evidence from him
telling Dennis that he had been involved in

568
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.840
something like this when his daughter went
missing. So it's interesting that you bring

569
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.119
that up. So that's something I
phoned, so I was were go ahead,

570
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:38.400
I'm sorry, Quinn. We's talbot
that Later he's saying that he's saying

571
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:44.280
that he excessed after the Twin Hours
fell. He's saying that he got the

572
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:51.280
postal stationary invit Lobes sent to George
Bush location in Connecticut, the Bronx.

573
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:55.920
Then he's saying, that's Kathy when
broke call. He's doing a recap,

574
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:01.639
but he's saying that he sends the
American media. Why he sent to American

575
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:09.440
media ugly passy Lie see Boulder,
Colorado resident Oliver He sit little Jabana on

576
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:16.800
Rug eight Jellou and then snap one
hundred note the one tan camera. It's

577
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:22.039
a one time camera photos as Navy
tarns him, gag circle the next strangle

578
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:30.360
and then he's pissed off that Pi
Gray lie and sold the photos to American

579
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:35.199
media as editor so for top coin. So he's also saying that he sent

580
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:39.119
the thirties percent spores with course for
Arena dog food from New York. And

581
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:43.960
then he's saying, oh, bit's
coming JT. He signed it off JT.

582
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:51.039
Wow, He's but he's crazy,
He's he's really what he's telling the

583
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:54.679
truth, though, isn't he?
That's all too circumstance, that's so circumspect.

584
00:47:54.719 --> 00:48:01.039
The whole works information. So how
many do we have? We have

585
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:05.719
about two minutes left if you want
to read off those last two right there.

586
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:09.199
I think that those are the end
YEP read off the federal Eagle issue

587
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:15.760
date January seventh, two thousand and
one. Do you have that one eagle

588
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:21.599
design hashtag number one eight seven based
on Ah Charles Thompson design adopted by the

589
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:24.639
Continental Congress. Oh, that's the
information. So you're actually they solved it

590
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:29.840
is. But okay, some reason
was focusing on this and this took apparently

591
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:31.559
years to do. They knew that
this was going to eventually come out.

592
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:36.960
He's planning this year's in advance.
But he's really out there. Okay,

593
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.599
so we have we have one minute
left. Thomas John brokon National Broadcasting Television

594
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:46.480
Studio three C thirty Rockefeller Plaza on
sixth Avenue also known as Avenue of the

595
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:52.639
America's between forty ninth Street. Oh
so is this just a reinformation that's that

596
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:55.760
was used? So then it got
into here that's where it comes out as

597
00:48:55.800 --> 00:49:00.039
Yo, stepson, Dennis copit Hello
and he's only at one to Dennis,

598
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:05.039
I don't he's crazy? Do you
think Dennis is getting these? I'm sorry

599
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.480
no, no, he's not figuring
this out. So what did you want

600
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:13.599
to say? Real quick? Terry
like a fox? That's for sure.

601
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:17.599
I mean right, I just want
to say he found it. He's finding

602
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himself. By two thousand and three, he's got his soul cleaned up,

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and he's saying he's gonna go after
Rubbert Able and he does go after that.

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So I'm that. I'm absolutely awesome. We will take we will take

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more time later to it and look
at this this top I wanted. I

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just want to take a second,
obviously to remember all eleven you guys,

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you guys. I have to sign
off, I have to get out of

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here, so I want everybody to
take a second to remember the nine to

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eleven victims, all that was involved
with this. But we do know that

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that did assist Bush, even the
anthrax letters, in being able to go

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to war. Everybody, have a
wonderful weekend, take care of yourselves,

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and we'll see you next Friday.
Thanks so much by you guys. Thank

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you Jerry, thank you Harriet.