Handwriting Compilation t, U, V, W, and maybe X

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True Seekers and true crime junkies.
Welcome back to another episode of Hit the

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Road, Jack Finding the Zodiac.
Nanette Bartow here along with Nolan del Campo.

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We're going to invite him in as
part of today's show. Good Morning

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Nolan. We basically just kind of
touched or brief for a second there on

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something called The Family. It's a
new docuseries on Netflix that I just started

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to watch last night. I haven't
really gripped exactly everything that it's about,

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but basically they likened it to a
religious mafia, and I've always kind of

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had this thought that religion was kind
of corporatized, or at least it was

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used to control the masses, and
in this documentary, the way they are

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even beginning it, it is what
they used to control. I asked you

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a little bit about it. I
know you haven't seen it yet, but

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if anybody is interested in something like
this, it involves presidents, involves politicians.

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It's on Netflix. I don't know
how many episodes there are to it

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at this point, but it is
headed by an investigative journalist who is actually

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inducted into this particular the family,
as they call it. But it does

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that sound like something that you'd be
interested in? Oh? Definitely. I

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saw them flash faces like Bill Clinton, the Bushes, Trump, all of

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these politicians that I've always thought always
were working together on how they could make

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that much more money off of us
as a whole. I was kind of

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rather more interested in the fact that
they described it as a religious mafia.

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Yeah. I'm interested to see it
me too. I can't wait to finish

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off some of these episodes. I'll
probably binge it this weekend, So everybody

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check out The Family on Netflix.
All right, So I'm going to head

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right on into the presentation and if
we could go full screen on that.

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So this I found actually this weekend
I thought was rather interesting or not this

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weekend? This week in my homework
studies for graphology, which is the behavioral

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trading, the psychological behavioral trading of
an individual's handwriting at the time that the

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writing is written. And what I
wanted to bring out because I had often

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long thought about these ds that the
Zodiac and Jack contain in their writing.

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So we have Jack up here at
the top, and we have the Zodiac

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here at the bottom, and we
can see how the stems of these d's

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are leaned so far right word that
they look like they were going to fall

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over, or what we like to
call the crossing of the lines. And

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if you can imagine the crossing of
the lines, and the brain is kind

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of like going a little cuckoo.
Anyways, in my studies, this is

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what it said, so I thought
it was interesting to let everybody kind of

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check this out themselves. But this
particular pink box is actually what is out

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of my studies. And they're talking
about the D that this arrow is pointing

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to right here, because of course
we see this far right rightward slant on

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the D stem. So it says, notice the small D. Can you

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see how it's off balance? It
slants so far to the right that it

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looks as if it's top lean over. This is referred to as the maniacal

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D. But do not repeat,
do not instantly conclude that you're always dealing

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with a madman or raving lunatic when
you see this. Now, I know

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that when we look at the Zodiac's
handwriting and we see this, we know

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we're dealing with a madman or a
lunatic. I just did not know that

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we would see characteristics of that in
the handwriting until I got into graphology.

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So it says, as you already
know, marked rightward slant is a characteristic

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of excitable individuals who overreact. When
right slant is excessive, we can expect

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uncontrolled, irresponsible behavior and lack of
resistance to both internal and external stresses.

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Therefore, any letter which slants more
to the right than the rest of the

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writing indicates a temperamental nature prone to
impulsive or erratic actions. The more extremely

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inclination, the more, and the
more frequently such letters appear, the more

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likely it is that the writer will
exhibit antisocial behavior. It is considered more

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serious when this is. This off
balance indication appears in the D because this

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letter represents that what a writer is
rather than what a writer does. So,

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if I could bring Nolan back on
real quick, hus, Nolan,

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done, No, I'm here.
Oh I can't see your little picture on

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the screen there. Okay, So
as much as we know about the zodiac,

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I had mapped out some of Jack's
stuff up underneath here as well,

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and I found that the letter D
is self represented, so basically, like

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it says here, it's an indicator
of what you are rather than what you

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do. In fact, I just
put it out to many of my friends

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to give me a handwriting sample so
that I can analyze it for them.

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I did a little bit of analyzation
for one at one point, and I

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may go back and do even more
as I know my lessons. But is

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that something you think you'd be interested
in letting me do, Nolan? Sure,

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I tend to print, and it's
kind of proper printing. But the

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faster I write gets right, you
get a little less concerned for um form

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and read a legibility, I suppose, unless somebody else has to read it

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right. Great. So um,
as I was noticing up here, I

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could, I, just like I
said, mapped out some of Jack's d's

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at the top, and I mapped
the zodiac's um z d's at the bottom

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and found that the slants of these
d's in the stems were almost identical in

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many of the cases. And of
course I just plopped a few down from

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the handwriting UM presentation that we've been
doing. So it's not like I looked

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to particularly find ones that matched those
particular slants, but we can see that

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exists in both. And then UM, I actually found one where the bowl

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of the D is actually streamlined right
in with that that stem, so it

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doesn't stick out or protrude letting you
know that that is a letter D.

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And I found that that was consistent
with what Jack was doing as well.

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So that was rather interesting, and
I look forward to doing your handwriting and

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maybe we can even do it on
the show. Okay, all right,

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let's go. They're more upright.
They do have that little loop, right,

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and the and the loop is more
of an indication of sensitivity to criticism.

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The larger the loop, the more
bubbly it is, the more sensitive

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you are. So many of us
have loops, and it doesn't necessarily mean

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that we are super sensitive or self
or or or self concerned about what others

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think. It could be in different
areas, and we could be sensitive to

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think criticism about herself about our work, about things we do, so um

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it really, once you wrap that
sensitivity up with the rest of the analyzation,

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then you get a better understanding,
maybe of what that sensitivity is about.

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But the letter D is um the
letter T and the letter D.

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I will want to look at it
like the letter T is the representative representation

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of how you act, whereas the
the letter D is a representation of you

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and yourself. And that brings us
to the letter TS where we're at right

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now. So we'll take this full
screen, and of course we start at

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the top with Jack as we have
done so far. We show that I

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call it the tao tea or the
it has the curve or hook at the

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bottom of it, just like the
copy book tea in print. We can

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see the different variations. We have
low cross T bars, we have concaved

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T bars. Sometimes we have him
crossing very close to the very top with

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just a small portion of the stem
of the tea sticking out. As we

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go down, we start to see
some of these long teas where the crossbar

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is very low at the bottom,
but we still kind of see that little

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curvature that occurs. It almost occurs
in almost all of his teas. We

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do have a few of them that
don't have it, but for the most

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part he tends to have that curvature
or that kick up at the bottom of

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the team. We also have what
I refer to as the plus T because

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he is equally crossed. The crossbar
across that T about the same length as

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the stem and midway points, so
it makes it look more like a plus

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sign than it does a letter T
if it was set separate and by itself.

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I did pull out some of his
double teas. I noted in in

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most of his double teas he actually
crosses the tea separately, though we do

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have one here where he crossed completely
across with one stroke. But for the

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most part we see this lowered T
bar on the left hand side and a

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littlettle bit higher, And we had
a right tea that was a little bit

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smaller and kind of lifted up off
the ground like we've talked about many of

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jacks in the Zodiac's handwriting, where
they have that uplift like we talked about

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on the letter H to the capital
T last week. I did pull out

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some cursive teas and then we had
kind of this funky looped T. But

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I just want I brought this one
out and you'll find the single single stroke

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teas where he has crossed. He
came down the stem and then in one

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full stroke moved back upwards and then
crossed over with the crossbar. And there

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were several of those in the Atlanta
Georgia, which is similar to the movement

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that we see here, that movement
down back up, and then of course

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the cross of the actual crossbar.
So making note of a lowercase T.

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In the Lipstick Killers, we had
this tented version and this indicates stubbornness,

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and we have this crossbar that is
actually jetting downward in a decline, which

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is notable for being domineering. Now
what I noted here is that in Jack's

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we have also this tented T,
which is exactly what the Lipstick Killer did.

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We have this up kick off the
bottom right hand side, which again

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we see and now the crossbar is
a little more leveled out, but it

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does have a slight decline on it
in Jack, so we had a very

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similar formation in the aspect that it
was tented, it has the uptick and

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it is definitely leaning rightward. We
have talked a lot about the combination jts

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or these Jack Terrence indicators as Terry
B. Likes to put out there,

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and I do look at these more
like a monogram, I guess if you

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will. And in Elizabeth's Short,
we saw that continuation of the Tao te

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We saw the tea that was crossed
very close to the top with a little

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bit of the stem sticking out,
and then of course this one, it

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has a backwards loop. We do
note that the Zodiac Killer liked to write

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some of his letters backwards, and
we've seen it in dB Cooper and a

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few other cases, which is just
another connection factor. But as we get

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over here into the tea at the
end of Elizabeth's short, we're going to

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find more of these and these high
crossed teas that we talked about in Elizabeth

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Short. As we go through the
presentation and the current where we'll Killer,

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I saw that many of the ts
were pretty much just on par with the

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crossbar. Again, this one is
very similar to the one up there in

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Elizabeth Short. We see that the
concaved crossbar is also a part of this,

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and we also saw this backwards JT, so the backwards Tao te that

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really acts as a j and a
T at the same time, when I

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got over into Oswald, again,
no shock. We have a T there

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that is absolutely identical in slant,
in crossing, in size to the Elizabeth

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Short murders, and that's in the
letter to the Dallas PD for the JFK

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case Sherry Joe Bates, we also
found the same style T once again all

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the way through to what I referred
to as that very long tea. So

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here's where we start to see the
very long stem with a very short crossbar

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that is at a very lowered position
in consideration to where cross should be on

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the tea. And we see the
slight curvature coming out of the bottom of

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this particular tea in Sherry Joe Bates, which is just matching, you know,

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pretty much dead on what Jack is
doing. When I got over into

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the deer draft board, we found
more consistencies. Although the first two teas

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that I pulled out they had the
appearance of being straight. But again this

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version of the straight with no curvature
is definitely happening in Jack's handwriting. We

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can see up here, and we
do see these tiny little crossbars that Jack

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does that we're seeing in the Deer
Draft board, and then that eventually moves

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its way into those Tao teas again. And when I map this particular Tao

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tea out from the draft board,
we can see that that is identical to

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Jack's. This one has a slight
curvature to the right, but we see

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that little exit stroke at the bottom
of that tea. We see the lowered

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crossbar that is very small all in
short in comparison to some of these other

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teas that we're going to look at, but again just right in line with

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Sherry Joe Bates as well. The
Zodiac Killers teas we've as we go through

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a lot of them look like plus
signs to me. We also had the

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concave crossbars that we can see that
are occurring here that we talked about up

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in Jack's. We also had the
Tao teas, again very similar. We

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see that that one is very close
in relation to the one right here in

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Jack's handwriting. And then I did
map out that slant again for everybody.

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So this blue bar you see up
here in Jack's I just copied and pasted

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it next to the rest of these
teas so that you could see that the

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slant was in line. Since that
hard right slant is something that's very consistent

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with the Zodiac and Jack. I
wanted to compare that to the rest of

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the communications. Moving on through,
we do find again some consistency with the

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double tas number one. They are
crossed separately. They are not a single

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stroke across, which is consistent with
Jack's The right tea is smaller than the

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left tea and it is jumps up
from the baseline, just a tad there,

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so it is raised up, just
like we see in Jack's handwriting.

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When I got into the Fairfield letters
again we had the plus sign that we

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were talking about. We had the
teas that were crossed very close to the

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top with a little tiny bit of
the stem sticking out, again consistent with

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what we saw in Jack's writing right
there. Sorry, I should have marked

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it at a rate that is a
consistent disguise that we are going to see.

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In fact, the Fairfield letters were
extremely consistent with things like the Channel

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nine newsletter, but we already know
that that comes from from the Zodiac and

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the Herb Kane also had that very
close crossing to the top with just a

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small portion of the tip of the
tea sticking out. We saw it again

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over here in the second Herb Kane
letter. As I went down the line,

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let's see where else we found these
guys. Oh, all right,

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So it is a consistency obviously that
we are seeing between the zodiac communications,

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and if I see more of them
as we go through, I'll point those

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out again. We found the double
cross T, so this is two tas

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that are together and they are crossed
separately. We have the right, the

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left one that is larger than the
right one, and the right one in

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this particular case looks more like a
plus sign. Again in the DC Freeway

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phantom, I found consistency with the
letter T that is very consistent with Elizabeth

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Shortz and some of these others that
we talked about in the position and placement

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of the crossbar, the actual length
of the stem, and that right word

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slant is also consistent dB Cooper.
We had a couple of different ts that

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we looked at. Most of the
stuff was capital letters and that, but

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these were some very interesting ones.
We talked about that crossing from the left

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hand side that doesn't protrude to the
right, but we can see as we

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get down there, he's starting to
come out to the right. Right here

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I did mark these down because this
crossing to the left and not coming over

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the right side of the stem was
consistent with a tea that I found in

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Buenovic and also teas that I found
in Bruce Ivans. So in the Bruce

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Ivans, the difference here is we
have that very long stem that he is

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noted for in Sherry, Joe Bates
and some of these others. We see

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it in the Albany Letter. Let's
see here. I found it in the

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Citizen Letter, and that's the length
of that stem in comparison to the crossbar

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itself. Back here we do find
the double ts again. This one,

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I'm not really quite sure due to
the image whether or not this is broken

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here. It does look like that's
a possibility, but I can't state that

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ver sure, although we do know
that Jack Cannon will cross with a single

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crossing across that the two teas,
and we also note that the slant and

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the lean of that particular set of
teas is consistent as well with Jack's.

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When I got into the Albany Letters, we found not only the Tao te

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So again we have that very very
tall stem, and we have the very

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low crossbar, and we actually have
that kick out at the bottom, which

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was consistent I mean with these curvatures
that movement to the right as he exits

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the letter, tum finding again the
concaved crossbar that is consistent with Jack and

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the Zodiac. Getting into SLA,
we found more of the plus style tas.

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We found again the formation of the
tea that is consistent with Elizabeth Short

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and is consistent with Sherry Joe Bates. Well, it's actually this particular t

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is consistent with just about every single
communication that we're going to talk about.

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And let's see here more plus sizes. When we got into the Citizen Letter,

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I found there was a cross between
both the tall, very tall stem

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teas and the plus style teas,
with of course the slant being consistent as

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well. Channel nine Newsletter. This
is where we saw more of those teas

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that are crossed closer to the top
with just a tiny bit of the stem

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sticking out. And again the plus
style tea that we found so far,

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Riverside was extremely consistent with the long
teas. Because this riverside, yes,

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this is the red Phantom letter.
I misnamed that the Riverside, but I

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tried to change that. We see
this again this looped t so this is

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the first time that we see the
tea where the crossbar is actually connected off

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of the stem and in one full
stroke, almost like the star formation which

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we then end up seeing in the
Atlanta Georgia Child killer letters as well in

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the Oakland County Child Murders, I
found a couple of the teas. Of

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course we know the Tao tea is
definitely a jack trait, and then we

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see that at the end here we
have one of those teas again that are

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crossed so close to the top,
but only a tiny bit of that stem.

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Protrudes also found that particular style in
Urb Kane, so it doesn't shock

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me that there's this cross reference in
the actual formation of these letters from one

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to the next, since these are
so close in timeframe. That continued on

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through the second Herb Kane in the
Guests and we found these plus teas again,

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so aside from the ones that are
crossed very close to the top,

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we have that plus sign. The
Atlanta Child, Atlanta Child or Atlanta Georgia

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Child murders carried the same style tea
that we saw occurring up in Elizabeth Short

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and some of these others moving over
into the second letter with the Atlanta Georgia,

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which I actual actually just skipped onto
a new line of research yesterday.

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Nolan is that the Atlanta the March
nineteen eighty one Atlanta, Georgia child murder

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letter indicates something about you rebels,
don't get it kind of thing. He's

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trying to get them to understand that
he is the same person that was killing

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women in San Francisco, but now
he's in Atlantic killing children. And when

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he mentioned the word rebels, I
about kind of fell out of my chair

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for a second, because I do
have a picture in Jack's belongings of a

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ball cap from the University Nevada Las
Vegas, which has their mascot, which

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is the Rebels. Are you familiar
with that? Yes too, University Wassissippies

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Rebels as well. Really yeah,
Well the letters on the ball cap is

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UNLV to my take, and and
I'm going to show that here, not

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to not I feel like at inside
this letter as well, he says that

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he's left clues by all the bodies. So this notion that I've been talking

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about, in the possibility that the
watch found at the Sherry Joe Bates crime

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scene actually came from the Swindles murder
because he was not only military and the

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watch was obtained, as they believe, on a military base that he was

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also a painter and the watch had
paint flex on it, so they likened

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that watch, I think as you
remember to the suspect, right, yep.

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And in California, yes, yes, that was down in the lower

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or south, but southern California basically
yeah, south of LA Yeah, yeah,

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I I noted. And it wasn't
until I started doing this podcast that

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I realized that there was any connection
between those two and that that was a

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plausibility after watching something on TV that
indicated the Zodiac was leading clues, which

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was something I hadn't been aware of
for most of the years that I've been

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involved with this. But if that's
how they were making that connection, and

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that's why law enforcement was actually making
the connection and believed way back when that

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all of these murders were connected to
each other, then that's something they never

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relayed to the public, and it
may be something we never actually hear out

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loud from the police because that might
be the one thing that they can keep

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close to the hip that would allow
them to weed out copycats, but the

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fact that there is a possibility that
this watch from the Swindles was then placed

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at the crime scene of Sherry Joe
Bates as a connection to those murders.

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We have now a communication that's indicating
this is exactly what he was doing.

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So what he meant by certain clues
we may never actually know, but I

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know that the communications tie themselves one
into the next based on some of these

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clues, and when he said the
Rebels, I have a picture in this

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picture is in Jack's belongings. It's
of a ball cap on the ground and

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it has the UNLV and I believe
what I can make out to be the

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rebels insignia or their little mascot that
is on the side of the hot um.

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I thought it was extremely interesting to
see if I couldn't locate a murder,

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because it looks like there's a giant
blood spot next to this ball cap.

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Either way, I digress. Um
new stuff that we'll be talking about

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when when we get to that point. Um occ k Orb Kane Atlanta,

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Georgia. So Atlanta, Georgia.
We had again some of the same styles.

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We had the same slant um,
same formation, some with low crossbars,

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some with high crossbars. Uh.
Sacramento basically followed the same the same

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um rhyme and rhythm we see again. Was that Okay, we see again

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those plus signs um right on into
the Christmas card again something attributed to the

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Zodiac killer Scorpion letter t's were absolutely
right on par um as far as the

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height of the crossbar or the level
of the crossbar in uh consideration to the

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height of the actual stem. Very
consistent. Again um, we also saw

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the larger and so this one is
marked here because the double tea again crossed

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separately from one another. We have
the left side that is longer, the

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right side is shorter, and the
right wind tends to hop up a little

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higher than that left tea. Again, I'm not sure if this was just

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an image that occurred because of the
bleed through of the ink, but it

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also looks like this one potentially has
that cross because it looks like the pen

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was not picked up and that that
was one full stroke like we were looking

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at back here and at the Atlanta
Georgia Killer. But we also see that

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the slant is very similar and on
par with what we're looking at. Moving

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right on into the John Benet Ramsey
not too. We see again we have

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teas that do not have the towel
part of them, but we have many

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teas that do have the curvature at
the bottom of the tea and the consistency

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again in size placement of the crossbar
and lean, the right word lean that

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we saw so far in the wind
of it. Again we have that backwards

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JT. So we can now what's
that? Say that again? All the

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John Benee letters to me say that
again you cut out? They always look

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like they're the John Bani letters.
Right, yeah, No, there's many

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many similarities between these and again,
Um, are you there, Nolan,

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Yeah, I'm here, Okay,
I'm here. I don't know what's going

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on. I know it's kind of
like you're cutting in and out or something.

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You're going in and out that I
wonder. Is everything good on your

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end? One? Is it sounding? Hit me up with the guys.

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Um, I can't hear one.
No, no, no, it's not

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good. Or no it's not happening. His internet is cutting in and out.

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So it's yours, Nolan. I'm
good, I'm good. We can

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hear you if I have to,
if I have to reask you I'll reask

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you, so anyways, in the
Villinovich we do now perfect We do see

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this um JT inclusion, which is
the Jack Terrence monogram, very consistent with

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what we see up here in the
Lipstick Killer, including at the point in

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which he crosses that T very close
to the top and we just see a

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small section of the stem sticking out
the top, So another consistency there um.

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Moving into the T H now I
found this in Obviously we're going to

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see that hitting the backside of the
H. We talked about this with the

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capital letter T, but we also
talked about the consistency between the shape of

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that H and that very elongated and
short tomp that comes off of it,

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and onto the verus ivens. Again
we have the very tall ts that are

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crossed low. We do have a
couple that are crossed about more midway.

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But again, there's just so many
striking similarities with these letters. And then

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when I got into we skipped right
over Tom void. Not only did we

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see the plus signs, we also
saw the tao te with the little kick

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up at the bottom, very very
similar, if not completely consistent with Jack's

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writing. And the slant again is
the same, and here we find again

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that letter T that we found up
in so many other of these communications.

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Let's move on to the letter U. In Jack's we found for the most

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part, the only time he used
a stem was on the capital use.

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So we found most of his two
just look like the horseshoe you, and

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some of them tend to be a
little angular and almost like a V in

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shape versus the round rounded U that
we would expect to see. But as

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we moved through we also saw the
square you, which we'll talk about I

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want to say, is over here. We saw it used in the dB

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Cooper case. Again, moving into
the Lipstick killers, the only you that

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I had there was one that was
extremely angular, likely the attempt to disguise

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that letter you. But we did
see that in Elizabeth Short we had both

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the horseshoe version and this more angular
version that we were talking about, just

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dead on what Jack is doing.
Over here in the French Lipstick Murder,

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where he wrote on the back of
the individual with lipstick, we saw two

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types of you. One is the
horseshoe and then one is this more V

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shaped that we're discussing again. This
one is very consistent with the one we

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see right here in Jack's handwriting.
When I get into the Sorry Mary,

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that was all capital letter, and
we see the capital letter you is very

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consistent with Jack's writing in that this
lower bar. So if we look at

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this U here, we can see
that the entrance stroke is actually shorter than

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the right side of that you and
stem as it comes down, and we

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kind of see almost a slight curvature
to that image there, which is what

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we're seeing here with Jack's and this
you pops up many many times in these

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further communications as we go down the
line I found it over here in Oswald,

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those are extremely similar in shape in
the Kern. In the Kurn,

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which is the real Estate Murder,
we found both again the horseshoe you and

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this more v shape you, which
is very consistent with Jack. The Sherry

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Joe baits you. Also, I
mapped out the slant of this particular letter

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as well, and we can see
that the slants in every single one of

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these communications are consistent with what we're
looking at in Jack's handwriting and in the

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zodiacs. The Sherry Joe BAITU was
extremely consistent with the citizen letter us,

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where the stem is actually separated from
the U itself. We do see in

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the uppercase US here. This one
in particular has the same shape of the

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actual round of the bottom portion of
the U that we're seeing up here in

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Jack's very angular Let's see where we
are the dear draft board letter. We

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found the two different types of US. So while he attempted to show us

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this horse shoe shaped U and the
angular versions that look more like vs,

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he also carried on with a U
with an actual stem, and we can

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see that stem sticking out. We've
talked about this one. I believe in

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the letter A as well. This
extension of the exit stroke is extremely consistent

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with those letters, and we do
see that that is happening in things like

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the Citizen letter. So this is
why I state that these have similarities and

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consistencies with each other, because this
attempt to disguise using this exit stroke is

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exactly what we see in some of
these other communications. Let's see in the

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fit well, in the zodiac we
had the V shapes, which are all

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consistent with Jack's. We have again
the attempt to use a stem on the

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letter U. This consistency again right
here in the zodiac is consistent with the

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00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:39.599
letters that come out of the Citizen
letter. And then we do see more

406
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:46.759
of these ones with this angular portion
of the round well it should be rounded,

407
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:52.119
but this more angular portion of the
bottom of the U the Fairfield letters

408
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:57.079
again in his disguise here, and
he attempts to make them look almost shaky,

409
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.119
if you will. But we do
see again that stem that is sticking

410
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.400
out that we were discussing, and
it sticks out and portrudes downwards below what

411
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.880
would be the baseline. If there
was a line drawn completely underneath this,

412
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.960
that stem would stick out the bottom. And we see that happening not only

413
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.920
in the Fairfield letters, but the
Citizen, in the herb Cane letters,

414
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:22.519
in the Sacramento letter. Let's see
where else did we Mark Green. I

415
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:24.519
did try to add some more collars
here. Does it make it a little

416
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:30.440
easier to find the ones I'm talking
about now Nolan by colors instead of them

417
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:36.359
all just being red and blue.
Yes, At least it will make it

418
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:39.279
easier for people to see which ones
I found to be similar in shape and

419
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:43.440
size. The Atlanta, Georgia Killer
did the same thing. Tried to do

420
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:46.240
this little looped exit stroke off of
some of them. Of course, we

421
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:49.920
don't see them on all of them, and we see some are just you

422
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:54.039
know, malformed, because he's really
attempting to disguise his handwriting at that point.

423
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:58.680
Either way. As you go through
here, we then see some more

424
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:02.599
capital used. The US definitely have
this angular shape at the bottom of the

425
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:08.639
round where the entrance stroke comes down
to the baseline and then moves its way

426
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:15.000
back up, consistent with Jack's handwriting. So where the slants, we again

427
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.719
see some of these US where the
left side is shorter than the right side,

428
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.599
and then we find that consistency,
like I was saying, that led

429
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:27.440
the document examiners to conclude that many
of the letters, such as the Citizen

430
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:31.000
Letter, was written by the Zodiac
Killer. The Albany, New York,

431
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:36.480
has more of these I want to
call them the horseshoe, but we see

432
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:38.920
that they are a little more angular
at the bottom, just like what we're

433
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:43.679
looking at up here, and they
also have these curvatures that kind of bring

434
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.840
the two stems in closer to each
other at the top, which is very

435
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:52.239
consistent with what Jack is doing.
The SLA Now, this one is a

436
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.679
bad image, but if you kind
of just follow my cursor here here is

437
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.360
the round of the U, and
then we see this tail that comes straight

438
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.039
out to the right hand side here, And that's what we were just talking

439
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:06.480
about, is that extended tale that
we saw back here in the dear draft

440
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:12.440
board. So there's a definite consistency
between SLA and the dear draft Board.

441
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:15.199
Along with the Citizen letter, we
see again this view that we were just

442
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:21.880
talking about up here, with the
agularity at the bottom of the round the

443
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:28.039
tails. The Channel nine newsletter also
had extremely similar use to Jack's. I

444
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.440
would say that they are closest to
this particular you right here, even with

445
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:37.760
the little flip out of the stem
that occurs down here at the bottom,

446
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:39.880
and then that moves into not only
the ones that he attempts to use a

447
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:43.960
stem, but in the end,
obviously as his hand starts to tire,

448
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:49.079
he starts using his stereotypical U,
which does not include a stem. And

449
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.239
that's kind of what I tell everybody
about when somebody's attempting to disguise, they

450
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:58.480
begin with one fashion and then end
in what is probably likely to be more

451
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:00.920
truer to their normal hand and writing. And we can see that not only

452
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:06.039
do these match the slants, but
they also match the shape of Jack's use

453
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.920
and that includes the red phantom letter. Again, we have these horseshoe ones

454
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:15.039
that get closer at the top to
one another, kind of almost like they're

455
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.079
going to close up like an oh. We see that the left side is

456
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:22.639
shorter than the right side, and
that continues on into the Oakland County child

457
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.079
murders. So we get to see
more of these us that are very consistent

458
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:32.079
with Jack's, including this more angular
portion or it's just it happens on this

459
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:37.599
right hand side right here, and
we can see that that's what's occurring up

460
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:43.440
here in Jack's. Is this more
angular or squared off portion? We did

461
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:47.559
cover the herb cane as far as
the stem that comes down slant again is

462
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:52.960
similar the US that are cross referencing
this one with that shorter side. This

463
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:59.920
ue is definitely more consistent with the
one we see up here in Jack's Atlanta,

464
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.719
Georgia. We again found two different
types of US. Of course,

465
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:07.840
it starts out as the horse you
you albeit made to look shaky as if

466
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:12.280
an elderly person was writing it,
but we know that the elderly wasn't out

467
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:16.119
there killing so and then back into
these particular US that we found over here

468
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:21.199
in the citizen letter. So this
you write over here on the side is

469
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:24.039
extremely consistent with the US that we're
finding in the citizen letter. So no

470
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:29.119
reason to believe that as this person
is indicating that he used to be the

471
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:34.400
person who killed in San Francisco,
there's no reason for me to disbelieve that

472
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.679
this is not the truth. Because
it is appearing though, that the handwriting

473
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:42.679
is working out to match just fine
with all of the other communications, including

474
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:46.679
the Zodiac Killers Atlanta, Georgia.
We pointed out again that use of that

475
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:52.840
extended exit stroke and similarities with the
dear Draftboard letters. So again I find

476
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:59.599
that these are consistent. Sacramento letter
again a little bit muddy because of the

477
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.800
quality of it, but we can
see those consistencies with the tail that sticks

478
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.719
down and goes below the baseline.
We also have some that have just the

479
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:12.760
little kick out, and we also
have at the very beginning it looks like

480
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.239
one of those horseshoe used without a
stem at all. So we flip flops

481
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:22.480
back and forth between these two versions. The scorpion letter you. We did

482
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.519
find the horseshoe version was pretty consistent
with what was being done. But I

483
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:30.239
do find that these are very consistent
with the horseshoe shapes that we have looked

484
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:35.519
at so far, including like Elizabeth
Short. Just the style of it.

485
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:37.440
Left side is shorter than the right
side, and we can see that that's

486
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:43.159
consistent with what's going on there.
And the slant again is one and the

487
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:47.840
same basically, and we can see
kind of the width of the actual script

488
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:52.400
itself is similar in appearance. And
as I went down and I started to

489
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:57.920
compare the scorpion use, they were
most consistent with the John Benet Ramsey us

490
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:01.199
again shorter on the left side,
higher on the right side, including some

491
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:07.079
that are actually curved more inward to
themselves that makes it look like they're closing

492
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:13.400
themselves up again like the letter O. So consistency for sure between Scorpion and

493
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:19.480
John Benet. The anthrax us were
kind of not a lot notable, but

494
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:23.480
the shape is definitely similar to what
Jack has going on. And then we

495
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:27.719
climb right on into tom Voy and
we can see that a lot of the

496
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:31.960
use not only have that lowered left
side in comparison to the right side,

497
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:36.840
but we can find that the shapes
of the ones with stems are consistent in

498
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:42.440
slant, the pointing of the bottom
of that bowl to left consistent with one

499
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:46.920
another. Again not a shocker,
as the Tom Voight letters had been identified

500
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:52.320
by a family member as being Jack's
handwriting, and the finale letter with Tim

501
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:57.079
Miller, we found both styles of
use. Once again, we have those

502
00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:01.519
without stems and we have those with
stems. So the Bruce ivans that was

503
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:08.239
more consistent with the V shape of
Jack's V shaped US. So clearly as

504
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:13.239
we go back and forth between these
us we see some definite consistencies. Is

505
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:17.880
all of that making sense? Yes, it's interesting to note that many of

506
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:23.159
them both have just the regular U
without the line, and but then there's

507
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:27.440
some with the line. But then
then there are others that are very consistent

508
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.079
no line, no line, no
line, or always a line right mind

509
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:37.519
writing, it's always always a line
on the side right. Some people use

510
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:40.000
it, some people do not.
And it's interesting to note that Jack only

511
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:45.880
uses it in his capital use.
So if he was thinking of disguise and

512
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.400
all he used with these were these
horse shaped use in his mind in his

513
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.639
lowercase writing, to add that stem
would now be a difference, and that

514
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:58.239
would that would set supposedly him apart
from this writing, if you will,

515
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.400
But we do know that he's capable
of doing it, and that this is

516
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:04.480
his preference, and the fact that
in some of these he flip flops back

517
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:08.360
and forth between a stem and no
stem or the use like you said,

518
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:13.840
of all stemmed, I think that
in some of these, as I pointed

519
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.079
them out, there would be just, you know, one, a horseshoe

520
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:20.360
shaped one, and then the rest
have a stem. That tells you that

521
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:24.440
somebody's manipulating their handwriting. Otherwise he
would have stuck with the same the same

522
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:30.199
style in a single communication unless he
was attempting to manipulate or make it look

523
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:37.320
like he Um was writing with a
different style and then reverting naturally back to

524
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:42.320
the ones that he was used to
using um obviously, like I was saying

525
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.159
right here in the Sacramento letter,
the majority of them have a stem except

526
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:52.599
for that first one right there,
right and then so jack stem yes,

527
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.880
and those are capital used. Yeah, yeah, those are capital used.

528
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.960
So Um, like I said,
in his lowercase, he did not use

529
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:02.800
a stem. So if I was, if I was a person trying to

530
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:07.639
disguise my handwriting, and I wrote
like this, as a horseshoe the whole

531
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.599
time. I would add that stem
obviously to make it look That's the only

532
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:15.559
way you could really make a U
look different right at a stem. So

533
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:19.840
I think that's why we're seeing these
with stems in many of these communications,

534
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:23.840
because we do definitely see where he
clearly when he looks like he's writing faster

535
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:30.280
and the zodiac stuff, he's not
using a stem at all. These far

536
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:34.760
right word ones that are written quickly
with haste do not have stems. And

537
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.679
then we get into the ones that
look more perfect, such as some of

538
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:42.639
these US that we got from.
I would believe the Stein letter, where

539
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.719
he attempted to make it look more
like a conforming coffee book you, he

540
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:53.280
uses a stem. The letter V. Interesting, I noted it was kind

541
00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:58.559
of a swap with the letter V. He has his very angular VS as

542
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.800
we see here, and of course
the left side again is shorter than the

543
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:07.199
right side, with that far reaching
an upward stroke away from the B.

544
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:12.559
On the right side. We also
had the horse shape U, which again

545
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:15.960
is a V. So he kind
of swaps back and forth between these two

546
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:21.039
letters, where in the US he
makes some of them look like vs.

547
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:22.840
And in his vs. He makes
some of them look like his US.

548
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:30.440
The lipstick letter V that we found, not only is it shorter on the

549
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:32.480
left side than on the right side, but I found that to be considered

550
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:39.400
very consistent with the Atlanta, Georgia
child murder case. I found as we

551
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:44.119
go through, we'll see it in
the dB Cooper right there, very similar

552
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:47.800
in shape and construction, with at
the top length of the bars. Even

553
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:54.960
this this rightward slant that we're seeing
here I noted in Jack's of course,

554
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:59.920
again lower on the left, higher
on the right. But these were extremely

555
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.960
consistent with the Sorry Mary letter vs. So as we go through this one,

556
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.360
I didn't map out different colors on
it, but it was such a

557
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:12.320
short slide, I figured it's relatively
easy to cross reference those that are similar

558
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.840
in appearance. Now in the Kern, I found three that we're actually angular

559
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:19.440
like a V is supposed to be, and then I found one that is

560
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:27.400
more of that rounded horseshoe style.
Sherry Joe Bates definitely had horseshoe style vs,

561
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:35.039
which are consistent with Jack's use.
The short vs that we found over

562
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:39.320
here, one Leon's right word,
one Leon's left word, again assigned somebody's

563
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:44.760
attempting to manipulate their handwriting, but
still very consistent in shape and size with

564
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.679
the Zodiac Killers. Here again is
that V. Now, of course these

565
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.159
are slanting a little bit to the
left, but this is the V that

566
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:59.239
I noted over here in Sorry Mary
and in the Lipstick Killer, that it's

567
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:05.519
very consistent in shape, form,
slant things of that nature. Um,

568
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:09.079
the Zodiac Killer V actually was extremely
similar this one in particular, and I

569
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:13.360
don't know if it was the type
of utensil that they the authors were using,

570
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:15.920
but we see this thickening that's happening
on the right side here, Nolan,

571
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:21.559
Yeah, I found that to be
consistent with what was going on over

572
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:23.760
here in the Sherry Joe Bates.
We can see that the left side is

573
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:28.519
very thin, but somehow that utensil
when he writes up to the right,

574
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.400
leaves a whole lot more ink on
the right hand side. And of course

575
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:35.840
graphology speaks about this, but I
haven't got into the duck dish yet,

576
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:39.199
And that's what we're talking about now, is the way the pen lays down

577
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:45.599
the ink. But I found that
that was similar with m within the communications

578
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:52.920
from these murders so on the zodiac
again once again. The John Bana Ramsey's

579
00:45:53.280 --> 00:46:02.199
always look like they're faked or trying
to disguise exactly, but the all are

580
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:07.039
all weird looking. Yeah, it's
almost as if he attempted to make this

581
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:13.159
again very shaky appearance in the letters, which is consistent with, like I

582
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:16.840
said, the Atlanta Child Georgia I'm
Atlanta, Georgia child killer case. We

583
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:21.440
did see a couple of the and
this may allude to the fact that he

584
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:25.320
was using the opposite hand, that
shakiness that occurs the lack of control that

585
00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:30.760
one has by using the non dominant
hand. I'm not going to say that

586
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:35.760
that is entirely true for these these
letters. I have not mapped that completely

587
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.679
out yet, but it is a
possibility either way. I find that the

588
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:44.199
attempt to make things look shaky occurred
in more than one of these communications.

589
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:51.320
So Fairfield Betters I found that the
letter V here actually was extremely consistent with

590
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:53.840
what we were seeing over here in
John Benet. So we see this attempt

591
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:59.400
to make these curvatures. As the
V exits out to the right hand side,

592
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:02.599
we see that that's a little bit
longer as it like sweeps. I

593
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:07.199
guess over to the right. Let's
see if I found that one consistent with

594
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:15.760
me oh Luinovic, that attempt to
curve that right hand side. So we

595
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:22.920
did find some of those in the
Vuinovich case. Let's see here, dB

596
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.960
Cooper, we had that V we
just spoke about. We also had an

597
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.559
attempt at what would be a block
V. I guess if you will,

598
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:32.320
because we have a straight bottom there. I did not find any of those

599
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:37.480
in Jack's handwriting. But these little
tiny us or v's, sorry, these

600
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:42.599
little tiny v's are very consistent with
some of the stuff out of the Zodiac

601
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:47.760
Killer's hand so leaning to the right, heavily leaning to the right again.

602
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:53.280
The Albany, New York. The
Albany, New York vs were again consistent

603
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:58.000
with the Lipstick killer vs, which
were consistent with dB Cooper, consistent with

604
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:02.239
the Atlanta, Georgia child killer.
The Citizen Letter had again these more horseshoe

605
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:07.519
shaped vs that are not as angular, but again very consistent with that lower

606
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:12.199
side on the left and the higher
side on the right. And then more

607
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:16.519
of that U shape versus a V
shape. Channel nine News went back and

608
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:21.280
forth, or actually this one these
ones did tend to be a little more

609
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:27.239
angular, but very consistent with herb
Knes letters. Also consistent with the occk.

610
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:31.000
We see a cross between the U
shape. We're down to a minute.

611
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:36.360
It looks like we are not going
to finish the use today, but

612
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.199
I did want to. I will
continue next week, finishing off with the

613
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:44.400
US. It looks like we have
about one to two more weeks. Probably

614
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:50.360
hopefully I can get through the rest
of these letters this next week and then

615
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:52.599
move on to punctuation the following week, and then we are going to move

616
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:59.000
right back into the zodiac cases.
Thank you Nolan for joining us again today.

617
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:02.800
Is there anything you'd like to add? Just let the citizen VS.

618
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:08.239
Look a lot like Jack's VS.
Right. There's so many consistencies as I

619
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:13.840
go back and through and forth between
these that when we looked at this letter

620
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:19.880
V here being consistent with this letter
V here again, the angularity to the

621
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:27.199
roundedness that we're finding that are in
these letters are just amazing. So again

622
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:30.880
we have a consistency here. We
have a I think when he tries to

623
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:37.360
write more more as if he's disguising, he uses this strict V shape,

624
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:40.559
but when he gets relaxed, he
goes back into that horseshoe shape that is

625
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:44.760
more rounded. But all right,
everybody, I'm going to let you go

626
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:47.320
have a wonderful weekend, and we'll
see you next Friday, all right.

627
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:07.039
I felt like so loud,