Handwriting Compilation R, S, and T

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True seekers and true crime junkies.
Welcome back to another episode of Hit

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the Road Jack Finding the Zodiac.
Today we have Nolan del Campo back with

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us. We're going to introduce him. Now, are you there, Nolan,

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Hi, Good morning morning. How
are you doing. I'm great,

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Yes, it has just a little
bit of laundry and research. I did

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have the numbers for last month on
the episodes. We had seventy listenable episodes

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with eight thousand, one hundred and
eighty eight total downloads. I'm still trying

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to determine if that is just with
Talk for TV or if that's the actual

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video itself, and that includes all
the places that I have it up,

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including Facebook and Twitter and all of
those other places, but the numbers are

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getting quite high. We did have
a YouTube poster JDM brace yourself said they

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were not smart enough to catch him, and that was in reference to the

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Dennis Kaufman video or I'm Sorry documentary
on Jack Terrence, and I did respond

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to that that to some degree,
I believe that PD was not properly prepared

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or trained for this type of crime
at that time, and at the same

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time, they were likely never going
to be able to solve it if the

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Zodiac had assistance, as we've been
discussing. He then also said it's the

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real deal, which I appreciate it
when people come on take a look at

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that and see that there is well
enough evidence there that law enforcement should be

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paying attention. I do believe that
there's enough evidence there and that Jack does

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fit the basic premise of who the
Zodiac murderer was. I know that you've

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heard a lot from me over the
years, Nolan in regards to the Zodiac.

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So what is your take on it? Do you think he's the best

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suspect? Yes, I do.
I mean I've got a lot of reading

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on different crimes, mainly Zodiac,
but tons of others, the Lanson murders,

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Satanic murders, Son of Sam and
to me, I think you've got

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you're onto something with Jack here,
and you're following in his footsteps. Correct.

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I was gonna say, I am
not responsible for figuring this out by

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any means. I think that Terrence
Pascal, who was the original examiner to

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look at Jack Terrence's handwriting back in
the early two thousands, they likely already

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knew. I did actually post somewhere
here recently that it wasn't a coincidence that

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right after Jack Terrence was turned over
to law enforcement by Dennis Kaufman, that

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we started to see all the information
and evidence in these cases disappear, such

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as the zodiac letters that are no
longer the originals are purportedly no longer available,

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though I know they are. They
may just be saying that to us

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so that we all just, you
know, shut up and go away.

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But that's not what I'm here for
today. I did this last Christmas,

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and I'll show that up there.
Oh, let me get it out of

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the light. The Book of Useless
Information, you guys. Now. Of

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course, when it starts at the
bottom with something like Earth is the only

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planet not named after a god,
you might think that, yes, that

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might be some useless information. I
do plan on going through this book,

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because as I thumbed through it,
and it only took me a couple thumbs,

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in which case I stumbled directly across
JFK being shot, Martin Luther King

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being killed, people like Elvis Presley
and Marilyn Monroe being you know, supposedly

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suiciding themselves. So I thought that
was extremely interesting that anybody would actually even

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produce a book for America to see
that says that this type of stuff is

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senseless or useless information. If it's
useless, then that must mean that we

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shouldn't care about who runs our country
and who's been responsible for us for all

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of these years, and who they
are willing to take out in life in

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order to facilitate whatever their agenda is. Either way, I digress. I

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am going to go through that and
I will point some of those things out

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later, but right now we're going
to go ahead and hop into the power

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point presentation. Last week we left
off at the letter RS, and of

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course I kind of hopped through that
one really quickly. I'm gonna try not

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doing that again so that we don't
have to relive this these slides again and

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again. We went through and we
looked at some of the lowercase RS that

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we talked about with Jack, which
was this heavy overhang with the stem that

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protrudes way up into the air above
that overhang to this right ward slant that

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occurs in his RS, and some
of his RS are almost completely straight and

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there's just a little tiny hook there
on it, and you could see that

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coming down off the top of the
one right next to it. We talked

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about the check mark RS, which
is exactly what they were looking for in

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somebody's handwriting back in the early seventies
in regards to these cases, and we

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can see the different variances of that
check mark that executes. We also had

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that flatlined, elongated overhang that occurred
these others that reached far up to the

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sky. Here's another one that's nice
and straight, and then the looped are.

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So as we start with this and
we hop over into the killing case,

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we can see some of these tall
cars with the overhang that shoots straight

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up in the air, which is
something we're going to see throughout this presentation.

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We also see the looped RS,
the looped stem cars with that high

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reaching overhang. Again, as we
went through the presentation, I believe I

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found them in the dear draft board
letter. We have a looped R here.

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We have one in the dB Cooper
case. Oh, speaking of which,

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I did handle a case this last
week in regards to a bank robbery,

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and I did kind of find it
a little bit comical that there was

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a note written. So I had
to analyze this note to determine if the

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suspects kendwriting was consistent with that note. And it made me kind of giggle

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and think of dB Cooper because he
asked for his back. So, if

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people are still out there trying to
rob banks and you're using notes to do

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so, please at least be smart
enough to take it back. Not that

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that's going to save you by any
means, because we have too many cameras,

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all phones and other things out there. They're going to catch you anyways.

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But I just thought that was kind
of comical because they just didn't know

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people were still out there robbing banks
using notes anyways, the money and run.

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Yeah. I also found a loop
R in the OCCK case. And

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let's see if we had any other
looped r's in there. No, all

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right, So moving on, when
we got into Elizabeth Short, we started

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to see these awkward overhangs that we
talked about in Jack's writing, we saw

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the stem that is protruding high up
into the air. That seems to be

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a ruse, but it is definitely
something that Jack does. And we found

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that the Elizabeth short rs were very
consistent with the current letter, which of

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course this is the same era forty
seven forty eight in southern California, all

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the way over to what I referred
to as kind of these hatchet ours where

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we don't see the stem at all
and we just see the overhang that comes

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directly off the top. I started
to see these actually in many, many

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of the communications. We'll talk about
those as we hit them and go through.

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Oswald also had that check mark are
just like we were looking at up

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there in Jack's writing. We can
see that those are very consistent. And

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then of course here again is that
high raised overhang and then almost straight overhang

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or straight are that we were seeing
up here in Jack's handwriting with no overhang

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at all. And then what I
refer to is the angular are that is

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found in Jack's handwriting, and we
started to see these over here in this

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part. We can see that angular
part up there. So we had consistencies

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between Sherry Joe Bates writing with Jack's
actual RS. Here again is that are

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with no stem and the overhang,
which I said was consistent with what we

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saw on the current We Werewolf Killer. And we also saw the check mark

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R in Sherry Joe Bates carrying on
into the dear draftboard letter. Aside from

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that looped R, we did have
some very close to that check mark R

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where it doesn't appear to be a
stem, it looks like an actual check

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mark. The overhang is actually the
exit stroke extending off to the right.

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And then we had again these no
stem rs that look like they are formed

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in a single stroke. This is
what I was referencing when we were talking

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about it back up here in the
Sherry Joe Bates and in the werewolf Killer.

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And these particular rs were found in
Let's see, we found them in

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the John Benet Ramsey. Note they
were fairly heavy there aside from the scorpion

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letters also bared similar if not identical
type rs to the Sherry or to the

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John Benet Ramsey. And those match
the Christmas card rs. So as we

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go through we'll see more of those. Let's see, I see I found

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one in the Atlanta, Georgia Killer. I've found one. I found them

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in let's see in the SLA letter
by the Zodiac. So we can see

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how these letters like the Christmas card
in the SLA and let's see if we

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had any of those directly in Zodiac. We did not, but okay,

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we'll keep on. I do have
what I refer to as the perfect copybook

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ARE, and I've notated those as
we go through. You can find them

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in places like the Oakland County child
murders. You can find them in the

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Red Phantom letter. Let's see here. I found it in the Tim Miller

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letters. So these perfect constructed rs
are absolutely an identical match to the Zodiac

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writings. We also had the check
mark RS that are consistent, if not

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identical to what we're looking at.
These ones here, in particular with the

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curvature, are consistent with what we
see up here or in Jack's handwriting.

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So as you go across and we
see a checkmark like this, we see

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it down here in the Zodiac.
We see that flatline overhang and the ARE

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that is consistent with what we saw
up here in Jack's writing. So the

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Zodiac actually stared several here's that angular
overhang that we found inside of Sherry Joe

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Bates that is consistent with the Zodiac
Killer. And so this if we are

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still catching up with everybody, so
you understand and you're just chiming in today

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for the first time. A blue
circle around Jack's handwriting means that that particular

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style are is found in the crime
scene notes, and we can look down

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and find those circled in blue as
well. If they are circled in red,

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that means that there is a consistency
with between crime scene notes the letter

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are and then if it's circled in
red and blue, it means that it

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is consistent both with Jack's handwriting and
another crime scene note. The stars indicate

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that the Zodiac Killer has been identified
in these particular communications. So as we

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go through we see the Zodiac Killer. We see the Fairfield letters, the

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SLA letter, the Citizen letter,
the Channel nine news letter, the Red

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Phantom letter, the Sacramental letter from
nineteen eighty six, and the Christmas card.

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So if we take and combine all
these letters that have already been or

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all these communications that have been identified
as the Zodiac already, and then we

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turn around and apply those particular disguises
and look for those disguises and other communications.

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That's how you're seeing all of these
markings on this page. Typically speaking,

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I tell people, when you see
this many markings in any type of

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a handwriting, you're looking at an
identification unless I'm pointing out differences, which

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indicates it's an exclusion. So we
also have slants that we're paying attention to.

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So I have a slant bar up
here on this particular are showing that

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it actually leans very heavily to the
right, and I laid the I copied

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him hasted, so it's identical.
It's not manipulated or moved. And we

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can see that that slant is consistent
through many of the RS. Going through

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the Fairfield letter again, we found
this high stem with the heavy overhang.

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We found the RS again without the
stem, and it's just basically a single

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stroke that is consistent with what we
just talked about. Onward and down to

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even more check mark rs and flat
flattened overhangs that we saw in Jack's handwriting

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that are consistent with the Fairfield letters. dB Cooper also used the high stem

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R as we see here. We
see that stem protruding to the left,

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and we start to get into what
I refer to more of these flattened or

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straight line RS that we are seeing
out of Jack's handwriting. The Albany Letter

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has this very almost umbrella like or
heavy overhang on the R, which was

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consistent with other RS throughout this series. Here again we have another one that

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matches Jack. It's that small overhang
that kind of leans to the right that's

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up here in this top portion.
And then again I want to say that

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Terry B refers to these particular RS
as pistol rs. He looks at these

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almost as if they're kind of animated
versus being not animated, I'm sorry,

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as pictures versus being letters. And
he refers to in a lot of cases

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this pistol shaped R, and so
I've kind of nicknamed these in the SLA

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and on Foard the pistol shape rs. SLA also had this very straight stem

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with almost no overhang, which is
consistent with what we've seen in Jack's handwriting

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as well. And then when we
looked at the Citizen letter, I started

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to see this particular it's almost a
V shape with a little hook of an

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overhang that's occurring. But the Citizens
RS was very are very consistent with the

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Oakland Any child murder rs, let's
see, consistent with the Red Phantom rs,

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consistent with let's see. I did
start to find some of that particular

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style also in the John Benet Ramsey
RS. So moving into Herb Cane,

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these ones are very hard to see
that they almost look again like that pistol

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shaped R in the guest letter.
We actually had that perfectly printed R that

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we saw in the Zodiac Killer when
he was attempting to disguise that as copybook

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writing. But we certainly started to
carry right on into those check mark rs

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that the Zodiac is well known for. The Atlanta Georgia child Killer also used

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the similar style rs as the Herb
cane and as let's see, this is

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the this is the one with no
stem that we kept talking about, so

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SLA rs are consistent with the Atlanta
Georgia child Killer. We did again also

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see what appeared to be a very
close resemblance to the elongated overhang that we

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saw in Jack's and that checkmark a
version along with those pistol shaped rs that

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we talked about that we're occurring down
there, and John Benny Ramsey and scorpion,

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and in the Christmas card, the
Sacramento letter. Again we found one

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that was matching with Jack and matching
with other crimesing notes, and in the

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Winovich I thought these were very interesting
rs that occurred. They'd had definitely this

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high stem, which is consistent as
we go back and look at things like

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Elizabeth Short and other places. This
is just one of the disguises or ruses

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that he used when I climbed down
into the tom Voight. It is not

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a surprise to me that many of
these rs, as we can see again

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here's that particular R. I probably
should have marked this one. Here,

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that's the one with no step,
very consistent with the Albany, New York

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message, very consistent with the Christmas
card, the scorpion, and the John

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Benny Ramsey. But we also had
some with angular tops that were consistent with

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Jack's, and then of course a
couple others that were consistent yet again almost

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as if this is that similar style
of that check mark R that we were

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looking at, with the curvature in
it, very similar to those in the

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Tim Miller letter. I found various
rs that not only matched the zodiac,

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also matched Jack. Again, here
we have those angular top rs that we

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were talking about that were consistent in
Sherry, Joe Bates and in Jack's.

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On the Bruce Ivans, I found
these straight rs, and at first I

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wasn't sure that we had anything that
was really a match. I mean,

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some of these were consistent with rs
that were found in in the crime scene

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notes, but these straight ones,
I thought, did we have any of

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those? And sure enough, when
I went back and looked in Jack's handwriting,

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I started to see and find these
straight lined rs with this heavy rightward

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slant. So that again puts the
Bruce Ivan's greeting card right in the middle

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of the mix and consistent with everything
else we've seen. Is there anything you'd

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like to add to that? No, one just said Jack's original writings on

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top. There's so much variation in
his RS. He had several different styles,

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and yeah, it's hard to hear
all when he's being natural or when

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he's trying to disguise. Well,
I and I laugh about that because I

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naturally think that if you're attempting to
disguise, your brain is reaching in for

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an image it already knows. It
just believes that in that particular moment that

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is not a version that you use, and they may recollect or see themselves

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or idealize a particular version when we
in reality have two to eight ways we

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can write any letter and number of
the alphabet and the number system. So

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it doesn't shock me that we see
at least I want to say about six

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or seven different variations of the RS
up here, But there are many variations

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inside of Jack's RS that I don't
do at all. You know, I

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don't do any of these check marks. I don't do any of these flatline

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straight ones. I don't do anything
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So I have to then idealize the
deviation from the learned lesson, which

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is the alphabet up on the board
at school. Yeah, idealize that perfect

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copybook print. How does this individual
deviate from that? And then I also

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compare that to my own handwriting.
I don't know if I'm being a little

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self interested at that point, but
if it's different from mine, then it's

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worthy of noting. Is how I
feel right, And people's writing can change

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over times and different parts of their
life, and a lot of it can

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have to do with how much they're
hurry, they're writing as well for drugs

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that they might be on outside influence
is like, yeah, emotions. In

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graphology they discuss handwriting is just a
snapshot in time based on the emotions and

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feelings of the author and how they're
portraying written communication at that point in time.

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So while we perceive it as a
change and that we all have different

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ways we could write, it's really
just an arsenal that we have. Like

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I said, you can write any
letter of the alphabet two to eight different

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ways, and we carried those capabilities. So the chances that he is pulling

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out something he believed to be disguised
is probably one of the versions he least

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recognizes that he uses. I still
find that even when people think they're disguising

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their handwriting, just as this bank
note writer was, there were so many

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small, fine, subtle characteristics and
identifying factors that he couldn't stop doing or

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get rid of. And that's what
makes an identification in handwriting. So moving

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on to the letter S, is
I have combined both the capital letter S

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and the lowercase ses in this particular, I believe, Yeah, yep.

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So let's just talk a little bit
about some of Jack's The capital s's in

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Jack's writing, obviously, we are
going to pay attention to the overhang on

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the top, how the midsection is
formed, how the bottom actually exits out,

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and we can see there are variations
in Jack's capital s's. He tends

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to have this again reaching forward look, and some of his actually look like

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backwards z's backwards twos, and so
those are kind of some of the idealizations

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that I've made as far as the
perception of the appearance of the letter.

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We did have some look like the
number five to several look like the number

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five exactly. So I have pointed
those out and I will reference those as

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number five's because we will see those
throughout the communications as well. I did

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circle up here the S that was
done in block form, and that was

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obviously because we have Jack liked block
form. We saw block form used in

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several of the communications. I want
to say that the block form and this

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one was probably found in dB Cooper
Yes, but then there's that number five

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Nolan yes, yeah, So speaking
of which, um yes, So as

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we go down the line, we
have what I referred to as the lightning

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bolt sum. This one, this
lightning bolt S obviously is missing most of

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it's the top portion of its actual
curvature. At the top, we have

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the number five S. We have
what I referred to as the backwards two

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S. Again, these kind of
reminded me, was that the ZZ top

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who had the double zs? You
know who I'm talking about, Top?

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Okay, because we see a lot
of these. Look at Elizabeth Short,

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I mean right away, just tag
boom, we've got these Nazi symbol too.

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Ss. That that's kind of where
I my head kind of went there,

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but I wasn't familiar enough with that
to be able to state it.

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Yeah, and again here is again
that Z shaped or the backwards Z should

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I say, the lightning bolt S. So carrying on lipstick killer, obviously

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his rusor disguise was to attempt to
elongate that S and straighten it out as

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much as possible with very little curvature
in it. But one of the final

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s's that I found was that lightning
bolt S and that was consistent obviously with

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Elizabeth Short. So here he is
thinking he's doing something out of disguise,

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when in reality it's something very much
existent in his own writing. When I

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looked at this particular S here with
Elizabeth Short, we can see again how

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that is running in rhythm with these
over here from the Lipstick Killer right.

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This one may not be as angular, but you can see how spread the

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top bowl from the exit stroke of
the S is and how consistent that is

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with Elizabeth Short are moving right on
into now. I found these little guys

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here. They're almost like squigglies,
and one S sits on top of the

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ANOTHERS. And I found that whenever
I found the double s is in these

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crimecne notes, that they were truncated. I guess if you will. They

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were very small in comparison to the
rest of the writing around them. And

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we noticed right over here in the
current letter here's another double S, very

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tiny little ass like we're seeing when
I climbed in this Sorry Mary letter.

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These ses with this right word slant
were very consistent with other Crimesne notes.

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Let's see if we can figure out
where I had those so with the Oswald

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the right word leaning s. Oh, these guys down here in Atlanta,

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Georgia, we see similar style ses. Moving on through. I also found

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this kind of square shaped and that's
what really kind of brought me back to

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that number five, is having that
square shape on top, very consistent.

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As we go through, I'll point
those out. We see that again,

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the s's that are in Sherry Joe
Bates are consistent with ses that are found

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inside of the Deer draft Board letter. I've found many consistencies between Sherry Joe

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Bates and the Deer Draft Board and
likely, like you said, Nolan,

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because it's close in timeframe, this
was the style or this was what he

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was using at that particular point in
time. But I did note that this

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angular portion that's happening on these ses
that look like number fives were also found

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in the Deer Draftboard letters, so
we can see those again here. And

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in fact, this particular number five
or you know, combinations of both this

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one and this one together are consistent
with Jack's number five s is as well.

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And also in the Kern Werewolf Killer, we found the backwards two s

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that I was discussing up here in
Jack's handwriting. There we see it again,

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so it basically looks like a backwards
number two with a very elongated exit

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stroke Oswald. Again we found similar
markings. There's that number that backwards two

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s again that just keeps popping up
in these communications. Let's see zodiac.

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We had several. We had the
Z shape, we had the backwards number

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two shape, we had the perfect
s copybook shape. Obviously, this one

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was directly cross comparable with the Scorpion
letters. We can see them down here,

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absolutely identical. We could see even
in the Scorpion letters the little tiny

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s's that are used that are very
consistent with the current very consistent with let's

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see here even the zodiacs little s's
are consistent with those. So okay,

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So here is another version in the
zodiac that is very consistent with the Oswald

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number two's. So as we go
back and forth again, here is another

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S that is a little more straight
line, a little more elongated. We

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have that high reaching instead of curved
top portion, which is consistent with more

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crimesing notes like this one's, these
ones down here with the Atlanta Child Georgia

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killer, the Fairfield letter had consistencies
with that, very very similar in shape

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and size. We just got done
looking at these says here, I want

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to say the Atlanta Child Georgia killer
also matched SS found in the Oswald letter.

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And of course we did start to
see that lightning bolt shape s again

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in the Fairfield letters that is consistent
with Jack's. The DC Freeway Phantom sas

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again very consistent with that high reaching
top arch of the S, very consistent

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with the Atlanta Child Georgia killer.
So DC Freeway Phantom was very consistent in

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that sense, dB Cooper. The
number five S is that we discussed.

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There were several of them found in
there. But I also found other versions

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of these sas that were consistent.
I was looking for this one last night.

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Where did I find this one?
Okay? So the Fairfield letter is

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consistent obviously in the bottom shape of
that particular letter S, and even the

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top portion being flattened out with an
angular backside was consistent. The Albany,

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New York letter had the number five
S. Again, it had the backward

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two S, and then of course
it just has some other wonky ses.

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The bottom line is is when you
look at some of these, I probably

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should have marked this one. This
one was very similar to Jack's right here,

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as it pertains to these ses up
here at the top. SLA also

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attempted to use that strung out looking
S where the bottom portion of the bull

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is extended so far out it doesn't
really necessarily have a curvature and it is

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leaning far to the right. Getting
over into the Citizen letter, we found

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again that backwards two formation. And
I'm not sure why I'm aren't this one,

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but I know that there be a
there'll be a version of it inside

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of here. Uh, the Citizen
letter being very consistent. Oh okay,

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that's where it is right there.
The Citizen letter is No, I wouldn't

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be comparing that one to the same. We'll come across it. Channel nine

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news letter had the lightning bolt or
backward Z shape, the number two shape,

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and again we see that lightning bolt
shape as well. The red Phantom

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also had consistencies with the Citizen letter, because of course we know that was

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written by the same hand. The
Oakland County child Murder says. We did

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find we're consistent with I want to
say this one was consistent with the dear

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draft board letters, and this one
here with the curvature, was very consistent

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with the Atlanta, Georgia child Murder
says. So climbing down into the Herb

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Kane, we did have a set
of double says that I found to be

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consistent along with that more copybook or
attempt at making a more perfect letter.

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Sum let's see we had this one
matching Jack. Yeah, the atlantimers you're

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referring to, the child murders,
are those the ones that I think a

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guy named Wayne Williams was accused of
and convicted of. But there's a lot

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of theories. There were a lot
more people involved, were different people involved.

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He was Wayne Williams, I believe, was actually convicted of killing a

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woman, so he did actually kill
one person, but that wasn't the victimology

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of the Atlanta, Georgia killings that
I think. They were males, and

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they were and they were children,
so we had some teens but mainly younger

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children. Correct, Correct. And
one of the one of the phone calls

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from the victim home to her mother
had indicated a nice white man had picked

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her up and given her a ride
to his house where she was calling from

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the police surmised that the suspect had
told her to say it was a white

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man when it was actually a black
man. That's their premise. But I'm

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going to show you when I get
to that phase, how none of the

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evidence fits a black man committing these
murders. And on top of that,

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she had no duress, She wasn't
scared. There was nothing inside of this

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little girl that led her mother to
believe that she was in an unsafe position.

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So I think if a child was
being told or forcefully told to lie

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strictly to their parents, there would
have been some type of indication or some

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sense. Because I want to say
she was young, she was between like

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eight and twelve years old. I
think that if she felt she was in

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a dangerous place or she was being
told to lie to her mom, there

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would have been some indication in her
voice. Correct, all right, So

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the S is obviously the number five
asses continued on, and of course that

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wonky little shape that we see down
here is definitely what I was looking at

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back up there in the Elizabeth shorts. The way those sas are formed are

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just very consistent with the way the
s's are formed in the Herb Kane letters,

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the Atlanta, Georgia murders. Of
course, we had some of these

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sas here are just more copybook like
this one here, in particular, is

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more consistent with what we see in
that copy book impression from Zodiac from Oswald.

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We also saw that again lightning bolt
styles. We saw the s that

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had that straight up overhang, and
that is straight that we are seeing in

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DC Freeway, Phantom and many of
the others. These I found directly relatable

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to Jack's handwriting. I want to
say, it's cut off a little bit.

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These are the s is over here
that we're looking at down here that

405
00:32:55.920 --> 00:33:00.799
are consistent and it's cut the screen
is kind of cut my exit stroke off

406
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:05.880
there, but you would find that
it is elongated just like this. Again,

407
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:10.839
we found that lightning bolt and that
carried on through the Sacramento letter into

408
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:19.240
the Christmas card letter. Actually again
was more of these upright, very attempt

409
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:23.720
at making them very perfect until we
got into the lowercase says scorpion. We

410
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:29.519
already discussed that we can also see
these small s's are very very consistent with

411
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:35.599
things like the current letter in which
Jerry Joe Bates I'm sorry with Elizabeth Short

412
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:40.160
John Bena Ramsey also had I mean, I just don't find these to be

413
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:45.759
coincidences. These Z shape says that
we keep finding anywhere, and this one

414
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:47.880
might be turned up just a little, but if we looked at that in

415
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:52.920
comparison to Jack's, very very similar. Once again, again, it's the

416
00:33:53.039 --> 00:34:00.240
Nazi SS now the I think the
singles they looked like they're trying to disguise,

417
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:05.440
But the SS looks more natural,
It looks a lot more like the

418
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:09.840
sss that we find in Jack's writing, and lots of the other writing as

419
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:15.360
well. Correct. And the relation
how they sit next to each other,

420
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:20.400
very close in relation to each other, very consistent. I probably should have

421
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:23.239
marked some of these up here with
the zodiac as well, but they're definite

422
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:29.199
consistencies that I'm finding in the John
Benny Ramsey Vuinovic we had again, we

423
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:34.280
had that backwards number two S that
we saw in Jack's handwriting, and then

424
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:38.639
of course we had that flat topped
S again that we were seeing. So

425
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:44.559
basically the Vuinovic s here is very
consistent with the zodiac killer s up there.

426
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:50.000
The tom Vo no no strange.
It is not strange to me that

427
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:53.599
we are looking at again extreme similarities
in both the bottom and the top portion

428
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:58.199
of these ses, both with Jack. So here's that one with that little

429
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.880
tiny overhang with the tick mark.
We talked about that early on. It

430
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:05.199
was one of the first ses that
we looked out up here in Jack's writing.

431
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:07.360
Again, it does not shock me
that many of the sas that we

432
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:13.039
see in the Tom Void's letters are
very consistent with Jack's writing, since that

433
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:17.519
had been identified by Jack's steps or
a biological son. And again, of

434
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:25.559
course we have that flat top s
that we had marked out. Over see

435
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:30.519
if I can find where I had
that, it's in here. As you

436
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:32.039
go, oh, I think that
was actually right up in here. So

437
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:36.480
that's that style in the Oakland County
child murder. And there's more. I

438
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:37.760
mean, as you go through,
you're going to find them as you look

439
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:44.440
for it. Tim Miller letter.
Again, these ones had that that impression

440
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:47.400
of that backwards number two. We
see it. He's of course trying to

441
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:52.039
stay more upright about it, and
the exit stroke is not as long.

442
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:57.719
But again as I look at them, they just appear to be just like

443
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:01.440
number twos that are backwards. We
also see those perfect copybook written says that

444
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:07.079
are consistent as well with things like
Scorpion in the Zodiac Bruce Ivans. These

445
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.280
ones were a little bit more hard
to determine, but they have that elongated

446
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:15.079
look that we talked about early on, such as those up inside of the

447
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.679
Oswald the Lipstick killer case. Um, that's probably where I should have marked

448
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:23.000
these guys to be consistent with things
like these elongated ses. They almost looked

449
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:27.760
like they took the s and pulled
on both ends and straightened it out.

450
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.960
And that brings us to the letter
T, the capital letter T. Where

451
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:37.599
are we at seven thirty six?
We're doing good, Nolan. I've only

452
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:46.360
got about five minutes left though.
Okay, thank you. The capital letter

453
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:50.480
T. I did two things with
this one. I posed it next to

454
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:57.440
the letter H because I wanted to
talk about the way um Jack worked his

455
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:04.039
capital letter T into the utter H
when he wrote these words in his teas.

456
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.679
I find that Jack has a very
heavy overhang which is nearly the size,

457
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:12.880
if not longer, than the actual
stem of the tea. And we'll

458
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:16.800
see this as we go through.
We also have the tea that is crossed

459
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.559
more to the right hand side than
it is to the left, that is

460
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:24.639
consistent in many of his teas.
We've marked and notated the slant of the

461
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:29.199
stem of the tea as well as
the slant, and I went with the

462
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:34.280
obvious, the furthest degree that we
found in Jack's handwriting for that slant.

463
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.400
So we do have one that is
a less of a slant to the right.

464
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:40.280
But I marked both of those.
One that was probably more normal and

465
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:45.119
than the one that was ranging on
that hard right slant. Also, I

466
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:51.920
have notated or put out a bar
for the slant of the crossbar on the

467
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:55.199
top of the tea, and we
can see that in many of these cases

468
00:37:55.800 --> 00:38:00.079
like these up here actually dB Cooper, but I brought in because of this

469
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:05.000
left hand crossing. So of course
he attempted to make it look like he

470
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:07.679
only crossed on the left hand side
of these particular teas, but we do

471
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:12.800
see one that actually crosses through.
And I found some lowercase teas that he

472
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.960
actually didn't attempt to make that disguise
and he crossed all the way through just

473
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:20.920
like a normal tea. So now
we can go back and look at the

474
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:23.960
way Jack poses that crossbar and how
it meets up with the letter H.

475
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:29.559
It actually meets up below the top
of the H. So your H should

476
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:32.559
be technically underneath that crossbar, just
like we see right here. But in

477
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:38.559
many cases we see where that crossbar
touches right into the stem portions of the

478
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:42.599
H, which makes the H look
like it's kind of hopped up off of

479
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:49.199
the baseline. And so another one
that I notated was this fanciful T that

480
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.320
looks like the stem was drawn down
to the baseline and then he wrapped back

481
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:58.559
up in one full stroke. Oh
arn't it and cross that T at the

482
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:00.719
top. And I brought that one
up because we're gonna look at at least

483
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:06.880
one version of this. It's more
like create if you will, in my

484
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.199
mind, where you don't pick the
pen up and you just continue moving until

485
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:14.840
the letter is completed. So as
we go in and we start to look

486
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:17.360
at the letter TS in the Lipstick
Killer, one of the things I noticed

487
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:22.239
first was that we had very long
stems. That's contradictory to what we're looking

488
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:28.079
at in Jack's handwriting. And we
have these very short crossbars. And of

489
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.599
course this one is only crossed on
the left hand side here and then brought

490
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:37.760
down in a single stroke, And
that is consistent with the dB Cooper letter

491
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:45.360
TS T that actually runs into the
H right here in Lipstick was very consistent.

492
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:50.480
Obviously, if we take that particular
TH and we cross compare that to

493
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:54.559
Jack's THH over here to the right, you see that we are extremely consistent,

494
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:58.800
not only in the way the T
connects to the top of the stem

495
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.920
of the H, but how that
H plays out with the left hand leg

496
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:06.159
that is shorter than the right hand
that comes down a little bit further,

497
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:12.280
again very consistent with Jack. And
then back into a course these very tall

498
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:16.960
stem teas with very short crossbars.
So obviously this is what Jack believed to

499
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:21.719
be a disguise because he didn't want
it to look like his short, fat

500
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:25.159
wide teas. So we've got straight
and we're going to see a lot of

501
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:30.079
these in the communications, which tells
me that's truly the disguise that he went

502
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:32.840
with. When we climbed over into
the Elizabeth Short, we started to see

503
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:37.800
more of the heavy weighted crossbar on
the top that was more even or if

504
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:42.320
not longer than the stem, that
is very consistent with Jack's teas. All

505
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:46.119
the way down to again longer stem
teas with very short crossbars, which is

506
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:51.599
consistent with the lipstick going case.
The slant of the teas were consistent,

507
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.719
and we had teas that were identically
in shape. So we have this tea

508
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:59.920
up here by Jack, and we
can see how the stem actually has a

509
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.800
slight curvature to it and leans hard. Right, that's what we've got going

510
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:07.400
on over here, and the Elizabeth
Short. When we got into the Sorry

511
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:12.639
Mary again, we started to see
these long stem tas with short crossbars.

512
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.400
So these are extremely consistent, you
guys, with what was going on in

513
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:21.079
the Lipstick Killer case, and very
close in time frame. The current letter

514
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:24.239
had the backwards JT. I call
it the backwards JT. Well it's the

515
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:31.280
backwards it's a it's it's a J. But the TS stem actually curves backwards

516
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:35.719
to the left and has a slight
hook on it. And this is what

517
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:39.400
Terry B refers to as the JT
inclusion because it not only makes the T,

518
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:44.039
but it also makes the J And
if you paid attention, well we

519
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:45.760
haven't gotten there yet. Sorry.
When we get to the lowercase t's,

520
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:51.280
we're going to find these type of
ts we're actually used in the Lipstick Killers

521
00:41:52.079 --> 00:42:00.280
communication, which is that JT mix. The Oswald letter T was just bought

522
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:04.599
on with what we were looking at
with Jack. The slant of the bar

523
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:08.239
is slightly lower than the slant that
I pulled out up here, but like

524
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:13.440
I said, this was the extreme
version. Jack also can do, obviously

525
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:16.400
a straight crossbar, so this fit
within the realm, and of course the

526
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:21.679
slant of the stem as well the
weight of the crossbar over the top of

527
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:25.639
the stem is very consistent with Jack's
writing. In the Sherry Joe Bates,

528
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:30.199
we had kind of a mix.
We had both these heavy weighted crossbars with

529
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:36.239
the stems all the way to the
very long stem with the very short crossbar,

530
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:40.119
which again is consistent with Lipstick Killer
Elizabeth Shorts. Sorry, Mary,

531
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:44.320
I could just go on. Like
I said, We're going to keep seeing

532
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:49.679
those The slants of the crossbar and
the slant of the stem are consistent both

533
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:54.239
with Jack's dear draft board. We
almost seen again this backwards JT formation with

534
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:59.360
that curvature that happens in the stem
of the tea. But we do see

535
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:05.239
these heavily weighted or heavy crossbars again
with the shorter stems that are very consistent

536
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:08.360
with Jack. In fact, I
found again that this one was extremely consistent

537
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:14.920
with Jack's particular handwriting. With that
angular portion that happens at the top of

538
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:22.400
the hump. Zodiac Killer tend to
attempt to cross his team and touch the

539
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:24.679
top of the stem, which we
did show that Jack does do in his

540
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:29.880
writing, but we can see that
he more often than not that crossbar hits

541
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:32.880
right into the backside of that h
stem. Well, that's what started to

542
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:38.320
happen once once the Zodiac began to
write a little more freely. Not only

543
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:43.800
do we see that curvature in the
tea that curves back towards the left that

544
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:47.360
is consistent with Jack's tea, we
also see ches that are very consistent with

545
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:55.800
Jack's h's as well. Now,
all right, we'll have a good day

546
00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:00.440
in court, and I wish you
luck. I'll see you seven, all

547
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:07.360
right, take care, but bye. Continuing on again, the crossbar in

548
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.880
this particular tea. Not only is
this tea a dead on match to what

549
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.639
we were looking at up here in
Jack's writing and Elizabeth short, we see

550
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.199
that the crossbar of that tea heads
right into the backside of that stem of

551
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:22.679
that H once again. And that
shape of the H we've already discussed is

552
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.800
a shape that was used by Jack
when we talked about the hs in the

553
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:35.480
past. The curvature that occurs on
this particular letter H is definitely something we

554
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:39.880
see in Jack's where the actual feet
of the H are closer in relation to

555
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:46.159
each other than the actual hump itself. No, let me get that timer,

556
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:52.880
Okay, continuing on, we in
the Zodiac Killer, we found there

557
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:58.599
was consistency with this particular formation of
the T. Let's see if we can

558
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:08.880
figure out where that one. Hmm, yeah, we'll come to it.

559
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:15.679
I'm pointed out the slant actually in
the Zodiac killers stems are consistent the weight

560
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.280
of some of the teas. Obviously
with the heavy crossbar over the top of

561
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:23.519
the stem that is slanted to the
right is consistent with Jack's handwriting the Fairfield

562
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:30.239
letters, the crossbars again consistent with
the slant of Jack, and the stem

563
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:35.480
the DC Freeway Phantom actually chose to
use that long, skinny stem with the

564
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:40.000
tiny little crossbar like we saw in
in Lipstick in Elizabeth Shore. It's the

565
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:43.559
Sorry, Mary, I mean,
we could just keep going on. We're

566
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:49.400
gonna keep seeing that. Also using
again these particular T H references, and

567
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:53.760
we know that the hs are very
consistent with Jack's once again and to what

568
00:45:53.880 --> 00:46:00.719
I would refer to as probably more
of Ah, these are dB Cooper.

569
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.320
So what is he doing? Oh
I'm sorry, So all of these teas

570
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:07.480
right here, dB Cooper's I thought
that was DC Freeway Phantom. It's not.

571
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:12.360
But we do see the relation.
We also see the attempt at disguise

572
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:15.840
to kind of sway that stem to
the left, But we do see that

573
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:19.840
there are plenty of teas that move
in the correct direction, including the weight

574
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:24.239
of the crossbar over the stem.
The Albany again, these teas were very

575
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:30.159
consistent with this curvature in the small
crossbar. So we had long stands small

576
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:35.360
crossbars in the Albany letter, and
we see that curvature in some of these

577
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:39.039
stems that were happening up here in
Lipstick Killer as well, all the way

578
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:45.880
to the more the more square version
of the tea that I like to refer

579
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:50.360
to, which is that heavy crossbar
in the shorter stem. Also notated.

580
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:55.199
The not touching down to the actual
stem happens in some of these other communications,

581
00:46:55.199 --> 00:47:00.119
like the Channel nine news letter.
Again we see that these teas or

582
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:04.440
heavily weighted with that crossbar in the
stem, just like Jack's. In the

583
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:08.280
Oakland County child murder cases, I
found HS, which if you take these

584
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:14.360
and look back into the HS of
Jack's, we find that these forms were

585
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:21.039
used and we're very similar between different
letters. So I have this one mapped

586
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:25.480
out here for this square letter H. Where did I place there should be

587
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:36.400
a yellow? All right, I'm
not finding it right this minute. Once

588
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:38.760
again, there's just so much to
look at on these slides. But we

589
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:44.320
do see that the t in the
occ k case was very consistent with what

590
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:49.960
we were seeing in the hes that
we're in the Zodiac Killers range. Uh,

591
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.639
these square hes. I must have
mapped this one out on purpose,

592
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:57.000
but I do not see my yellow
bar at this point or my yellow circle.

593
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:01.800
This slant is consistent when we laid
down the slant with the stem in

594
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:07.199
the herb kane. Again, we
just could cross reference these all day,

595
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.239
including these teas where these stem protrudes
at the top of the actual crossbar.

596
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:16.039
These particular teas were extremely consistent with
that of the O C C KT S

597
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:22.480
herb Cane. Again, so we
had some more t These ones were probably

598
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:30.239
more consistent with the teas that were
separated, such as DC Freeway Phantom.

599
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:37.000
The shape is still there. The
Atlanta Georgia Killer had in two different letters.

600
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:39.519
We had two different types of teas. We had the tall skinny with

601
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:45.840
the short crossbar, and in the
other letter we had the more squarish looking

602
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.760
one. We've got about a minute
left here. We do see that the

603
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:55.000
slant of the scorpion teas are consistent
the shape and weight of the crossbar over

604
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:59.920
the stem or consistent in John Bennet
Ramsey, again we had these capital tea

605
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:04.360
that ran into the backside of the
H again just a dead on I just

606
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.280
I don't see that very often where
that crossbar runs into the backside of the

607
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:12.239
stems. So and then we had
the more heavily weighted crossbars over the top

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of the teas of John Benny Ramsey
as well. Getting into the Winovich we

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see the same thing once again,
the T bars right smack dab in the

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back of the H. That considered
that happens to pretty much every single THH

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connection that we see. We did
have a backwards JT again, and of

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course we had that lowercase one which
was a combination of the JT Anthrax had

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the heavily weighted crossbars over the stem
with some tall stems and short crossbars.

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And then of course Tom Voight's ts
were just dead on Jack's if I could

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match those all day long. And
then in the finale letter again we saw

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some of them that were just more
heavily weighted with the crossbar to the long

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stem and short stem I'm sorry,
short crossbar. So that is pretty much

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all we have for today. You
guys, we will be back next week

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with the lower lower lowercase teas and
we'll hopefully sum up this handwriting presentation in

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the next couple of weeks. Take
care, have a wonderful weekend, and

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we'll see you next Friday.