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True Seekers and true crime junkies.
Welcome back to another episode of Hit the

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Road Jack Finding the Zodiac. Today, we have some exciting news. I

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want to welcome to the show first, Nolan del Campo and Harriet Susche,

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Good morning, Good morning. So
you stumbled across an article in the Sacramento

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b that indicated that Donna Lass's school
had been found correct, Yes, yesterday's

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Sacramento be page three. Nice and
I had you send that over to me

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so we could share with the public. This is very exciting news. It

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turns out that Donna Lass's school was
recently identified by DNA. The school had

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been found in nineteen eighty six on
Highway twenty at Highway eighty. I just

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want to kind of read over this
article real quick with everyone, and then

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we're going to hop into what that
means to this case and how Jack fits

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into this, It says. One
Plaster County family received closure this holiday season

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after the Placer County Sheriff's Office connected
human remains found near Interstate eighty to a

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woman who went missing in nineteen seventy. Once suspected to be killed by the

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Zodiac killer. Donald Last, twenty
five, was last seen walking in the

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South Lake Tahoe area with a young
blonde man near an apartment she had rented

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but never lived in. The registered
nurse left behind a new car, bank

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account, and a large wardrobe.
La Lass, who worked at a casino

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in State Line, Nevada, was
last seen in September sixth, nineteen seventy.

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The South Lake Tahoe Police Department exhausted
all leads trying to find Lasts,

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according to a Sacramento Beat newspaper clipping
provided by the sheriff's office. In nineteen

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eighty six, the Plaster County Sheriff's
Office found a school near Highway twenty,

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not far from Interstate eighty in the
Camp Spaulding area. Deputies and coroners couldn't

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identify the school, so it was
classified as a Jane Doe, the sheriff's

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office said in a social media post. The Tahoe Daily Tribune reported many people

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at the time had the Zodiac At
the time, had the Zodiac Killer,

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the elusive Northern California serial killer,
had claimed Lass's life. That's because of

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a postcard depicting the Sierra Club was
sent to the police and a Christmas card

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was sent to Lass's sister, according
to the newspaper. The b newspaper clipping

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shown by the Plaster County Sheriff's Office
includes the postcard with the Zodiac Killer's signature

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on it, though that did not
go That did not appear in the pages

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of The Bee that day. That
information calling, or that infamous calling card

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is a circle with a cross through
it. It was published in the March

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twenty sixth, nineteen seventy one edition
of the newspaper. Sergeant David Smith,

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a spokesman for the Plaser County Sheriff's
Office, said by email that authorities haven't

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linked Lass's death to the Zodiac Killer, who has never been apprehended or identified.

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It was unclear if the coroner had
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Las's death. A cold case team, which includes members of the Sheriff's office

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and Placer County District Attorney's Office dedicated
to solving cases with few leads, sent

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the school to the state Department Justice
in the hopes the DNA technology could provide

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more answers. Justice officials match the
skull's DNA with the DNA of a last

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family member. The Sheriff's office said, sorry, you guys, this is

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hard to read. This allowed them
to provide school as the remains of Donna

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Lass. The Sheriff's office, all
right, it starts getting so blurry.

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I will find a better I know
you said you were going to hold on

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to that clipping for me, so
I'll probably get that from you and then

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post it when it looks awesome.
All right, let's go on. So

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they also included the infamous postcard,
the Sierra card, that we've already discussed

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and talked about. They also posted
another insert of this story, which was

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in the Sacramento be back in It
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So very very interesting that her remains, or at least your skull.

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They haven't found all her remains,
but at least your schools found and they

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now have closure of some sort.
This brings us to the area was found

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in. I want everybody to take
notice here that she was abducted in this

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area down in the right hand corner
of South Lake Tahoe, and her remains

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were found up here at Highway twenty
where Highway twenty meets and intersects with Highway

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eighty. That is near a campground
called Camp Spaulding. This is within six

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miles of Immigrant, Immigrant Gap and
Nayak. You guys, now, I

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know everybody has heard us talk about
Nayak many many times. Yes, this

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is this is very familiar to Jack, and so it seems once again you

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can't even swing a bat and not
hit Jack with the circumstance evidence. It

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is also by Harriet had mentioned that
Dennis knew that Camp's Faulding was one of

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Jack's favorite camping areas while he was
in the Nyak area. Correct, Miss,

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Yeah, definitely Nyack. Every time
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often, he would stop whatever he's
talking about, say Jack work there.

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Jack worked there at the gas station
hit the Nayak area. He knew about

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his camping all in that area,
a very familiar territory and also Nevada City,

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but still it's in that same area
exactly now. And I know that

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he was driving a tow truck while
he was in that area. So he

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did that you said for Nevada City. No, I think he did it

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for both the Nevada Shell Nevada City
shell, but the Nyak shell gotch.

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He was definitely in that area,
in that area, familiar with that area,

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stalked that area if you will.
Now, I know that you had

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mentioned you had salves that dictated that
the school or the remains had been moved

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at some point. Correct. Yeah, that's what I'm seeing doing hundreds of

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these by now. And there's one
I'm not sure if you've seen this one

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or not, but there's one that
I got where he's calling again donal Lass

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and I think it's the scorpion CIPHERSS
salves that I did that, which is

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John Walsh Scorpion ciphress. Anyways,
that he's he's been calling donal Lass an

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old nag, a twenty five year
old nag, a horse associated with horses

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head Sam g and Connor the mob
the Appalachian area that she was supposed to

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be connected or under a bitting rock
in the north h V. Here in

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Lower Lake there is a bit on
the rock, like a horse's bit.

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So to make that long story short, I believe that he put a bit

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in her mouth when he killed her, a horse's head. I mean a

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horse's bit, because she was the
old nag sam g and Kanna's horse's head.

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So anyways, will Nick, I
think those will make some sense out

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of that when we get there.
But everybody, Yeah, but you're how

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close I put it up Nayak versus
Camp Spalding. Now, remember Camp's Faulding

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is a couple miles off of the
twenty, and it was said that she

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was found at the twenty at the
eighty near Camp Camp's faulding. But Camp's

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Faulding is literally less than eight miles
to Nayak. Yeah, and that brings

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us to swearing in Saul, which
we've already discussed, so I'm going to

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brief it very quickly. He talks
about the symbols and and let's let's cover

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this because when Swearingham came to me
indicating that he had found Jack's name in

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the three cipher, I believe it
was Yeah. I put him in touch

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with Harriet and and so that Harriet
could describe the methodology of ciphers and coding

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that Jack had discussed and shared with
Dennis and Dennis had shared with Harriet.

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Right, Yes, so I have
went out about the book. Okay,

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nice? Is that the new one
or is that his first one? Now?

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This is the one that's it's still
recent, but the new one.

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I haven't got his bell. I
I like to see what you got,

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right, But yeah, it's all
in here. And more so, we

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see that he is pointing to the
area that I just showed everybody where where

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she had gone missing from, and
he's labeled at as point A, and

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point A being the point where it
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Highway eighty nine into Tahoe City,
and then is going to strike to the

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left and over to that very area
next to Boreal that we just us where

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Donald Lass's school was found. I
don't know if that's a coincidence that Donald

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Lass is dumped just past Donna Pass. It is kind of crazy, it

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is. Yeah, I don't think
you can make this stuff up, But

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that would simply be one of those
coincidences that you have to look at just

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as a coincidence. But I noticed
that when I was looking, there was

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Donner Lake right there. And then
of course you're coming over the Donner Pass

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when you're when you're entering that area. He then for a few years back,

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Yes, we did, and then
down eighty nine to South. Well,

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Harriet and I actually went and visited
this, So we did the opposite

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truck. We went up fifty to
South like Tahoe. We visited the Paradise

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Hotel, We visited the roundabout in
which she thought that that is where Jack

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actually killed Lass. And then we
traveled on to check out the area in

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which Lauren Swearingham had solved. And
this was long before the falling out.

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Was swearing him where he decided he
wanted to run off and write a book

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and have me rip everything down and
take everything out. When he knew that

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we were collectively together, all of
us putting together our heads to solve this

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stuff, he decided it was more
important for him to run off and sell

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a book. So his integrity speaks
volumes. But it still kind of boggles

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me that this area that not only
he solved, is solved from the dawna

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Lass reward poster. So now this
is where everything gets huge. I think

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that some research needs to be done. I might even need to reach out

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to law enforcement to try and determine
what this cipher was and where it came

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from. Was it something that was
established by the family or was it something

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the family received. The fact that
he was able to use this reward poster

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to pick up this solve and actually
locate her skull in the very same area

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in which this sol led them to
is mind blowing for me. How is

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this possible unless they again? So
I had two theories here, you guys

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and speak up if you will.
I thought it either the Zodiac saw this

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reward poster and was capable of making
the solve and this sal led to that

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location and he placed her scholl there
as proof, or he wrote this cipher

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and they included it on this reward
poster. So I need to obviously figure

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out which one it is, because
it appears as though this poster came from

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law enforcement or firm family members.
So how is it that her school was

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found at that precise location that this
solve decoded on? That either either Zodiac

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did the poster the whole poster,
or he's superimposed the cipher on an existing

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poster and put that out. That
sounds like, yeah, okay, so

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you're saying that you think that he
might have because of that cipher leads to

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where her school was found. Uh, the family wouldn't have known, you

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know, nobody would have known,
but the killer right or whoever was capable

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of solving this this cipher. It
also leads me to believe that there's still

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a possibility that they are communicating through
these types of messages with each other,

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and that there is another side that
is maybe saying, you know, here

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at this location is where I want
the proof that she is dead, and

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that's where her school is deposited or
moved, as Harriet has indicated that her

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remains had been moved at some point. So it also firms Harriet's solve in

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a way that says we were on
the right track. We've ended up with

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the right location. Don Alasa's school
was there. It's within spinning distance of

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Jack's proximity. So I think that
we are still on track, and I

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think that there's this is lending some
credibility to the solves that you and Lauren

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swearing them have. Yeah, I
think the ciphers code too, because I

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think when you say Zodiac, we
know Jack's included, but there may be

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more than one person involved, And
like you say, they may be communicating

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with each other through ciphers and other
means, exactly well, and we've seen

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it happening in the newspaper. I've
shown various different degrees of messages that have

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gone to the Zodiac through the newspapers, including ciphers that led to a phone

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number called Libra if everyone remembers that
one. So there is definitely something here.

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And I know that. I nearly
fell out of my chair when I

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realized that that location was basically the
area in which Laurence Swearing took us to

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from this poster. Blows my mind. Yeah, all right, so for

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the Zodiac, for the Zodiac,
as he as an amateur, a named

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person, I was like, yeah, he's not an amateur. He had

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a book out by then. Anyway, it's an affirmation that we're on the

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right track. Absolutely. You know, one more peg? You know,

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I can't. It's like I said, every time I look at some piece

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of evidence in these cases, I
can't ever exculpt Jack from it. It

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never ends up in a place where
Jack isn't right And it's always just more

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in our favor, and there's everything
on the negative side exactly, either it's

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neutral or as Baxus. This bax
Us big time. I was elated.

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I just was absolutely in shocked to
discover that it was that location. Now,

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in the Hunt for the Zodiac,
they did go to that area and

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they did run cadaver dogs. They
the dogs hit on human remains sent but

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were they were unable to find any
remains. So, but that could be

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because the school had been there in
nineteen eighty six. I don't know if

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your solves indicate if he just moved
partial remains or if he removed all or

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moved all of her remains. I
think it's both, you know, moved

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the remains and moved him here,
moved them there. So it doesn't indicate.

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Yes, the timing is we've been
talking about Donald last for two weeks

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and then boom, very next,
you know, before the next episode,

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we have this article in the page
three prominently. It's crazy, it is

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almost it's beyond coincidence. It is
great, it's fortuitous. Yes, it

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was on the side. Through the
classic movies, The Most Dangerous Game,

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the nineteen thirty two movie Most dangerous
game that that class movies. Last night

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Nolan and I watched. I couldn't
sleep. It's crazy. Wow, he

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hunts humans. Yeah, that's a
little ironic, that's a bit much.

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Well, whatever is that? Zarkov
is the guy's name, and he is

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the island and he hunts human beings
for game. I think I've ever seen

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that. I don't think I've ever
seen that, and I'm not sure that

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I do what a what a sad
state. But he definitely mimicked it.

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He definitely called it out. And
that brings us to our next My next

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revelation is is that Nolan pointed out
that the particular comic strip that we were

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looking at that was used in the
Halloween card was actually a Dick Tracy comic

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strip. Correct, Yes, go
ahead, Yeah, no, no,

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go ahead. They had a Zodiac
gang in the Dick Tracy College trip that

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the cops are chasing. Really huh. Yes. All of these things,

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when you put them together, just
kind of wrap it up so neatly.

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I did some research and background on
it because I have talked about the Dick

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Tracy comics and the use of those
comics by the Zodiac Killer, because he

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used them previous to them being released
to the public, which again shows and

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supports, like Terry Batcher has said
so many times, intensive inside information,

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things that shouldn't be known, but
also make that relation right back to Chicago,

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Illinois with Jack and with his happenings, the mob politicians, all of

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the things that were happening in the
lipstick killing case that just continued on through

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the years as this career killer literally
made a career out of this. The

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Dick Chacy murroel in downtown Pawne,
Oklahoma show's Chester Gould birthplace in Oklahoma,

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which is also another tie back to
Jack because Jack was in Oklahoma for quite

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some time as hisself. I always
see all of these ties to all the

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organizations listed behind the Dick Tracy publishing
and the following of Gold. But I

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did also note that the Reading Eagle, which was something that the Atlanta Atlanta

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Child Atlanta, Georgia child murderer had
placed an insert that included the Reading Eagle

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in it. The Reading Eagle also
ran the Dick Tracy comics, and we

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can see connections from the one of
the letters where he said where it's too

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much for you rebels to handle,
and I have placed that over the top

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of a University of Nevada Las Vegas
ball cap, which is for the the

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the Rebels. That's the actual mascot
for this particular team. And this,

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yes, right, and this hat
appears to be next to a very ominous

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appearing puddle of what really kind of
looks like blood to me. So I

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found this in Jack's belongings and or
I think it was actually produced off of

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rolls of film in Jack's belongings.
So nobody has any clue as to why

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this picture was in his or on
his film at all. Period. That

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brings us right back to the Douglas
County Sheriff. So we were still talking

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about the near the roundabout the Paradise
Hotel where Harriet and I had gone to

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visit. I don't know if I
I think I oh, I wanted to

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back that up because we were at
the time last week still talking about Paradise.

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There's also a relation to Paradise,
Nevada, which is actually the Las

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Vegas Strip. We know that that's
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then the Paradise Hotel and Casino that
was owned by Bill and Sam Boyd that

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was started January first of nineteen seventy
five. So we see a lot of

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relation to the Paradise, to the
Dona Lass. So everything is kind of

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wrapping itself nice and neatly right around
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I took a look at some of
the stuff in regards to the Paradise Hotel,

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of course who the owners were.
You can see the total assets and

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the operating income and all the things
that are going along with that. I

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don't need to necessarily read all of
this, but I thought it was interesting

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that it says in nineteen eighty four, after leveling a three million dollar fine

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against the Stardust for skimming, the
Novadi Gaming Commission asked the Boyds to run

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the properties gaming operations. When the
Stardust was taken over by the reputable Boyd

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family, they were surprised by US
profits now that every penny of income was

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being recorded. Ex FBI agent William
F. Rohmer, junior, longtime senior

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agent at the FBI's Organized Crime Squad
and show Cargo and expert in Las Vegas

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doings, said the amount of skim
had been so heavy that the profit and

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laws statement did not represent a true
picture of the gold mine that the Stardust

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was after several years of successful operations, BOYD Gaming officially acquired the Stardust and

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Fremont in nineteen eighty five. So
and then, of course we have the

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nineteen eighty six dropping of Donald Lassis
or finding of Donald Lass's skull. So

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the time frames just kind of also
wrap themselves around some things. And I

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don't know if that whole calling out
Paradise is because it was the hotel he

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was in or the people who were
running the Paradise casino. I have no

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idea, but that's razing. I
just wanted to interject real quick. Those

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skimming operations have a lot to do
with the Blestrie family and mister Big and

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Jack. I understand through coding that
it was kind of a lot of friction,

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but they were actually on the on
Jack's people's side, so a lot

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that happened, and they did pay
their debt back to Society for those skimming

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operations, and a lot of actually
a lot of respect for the Bolestrie family

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by the way. Anyways, so
I'm well, the Blestrie family is much

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rever revered in that region. They
said they have some dark sides to them,

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but a lot of people said,
you know what, we still respect

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them. So anyways, that's the
skimming operation that they're referring to. M

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hmm. So okay, well that
brings us to what may or may not

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be an actual portion of the Halloween
card. And I say this because I

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have nothing that's sports or shows.
Okay, I know, I'm gonna let

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you talk about that. I just
I don't I myself don't have any proof

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of it, but I'm bringing it
up so that you are capable of talking

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about it. At one point time, Tom Voyd and Crewe attempted to give

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me this by case statement with the
I perceive it to be the J Tar

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because if you've studied the handwriting like
I have, you know that he makes

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these jas that look like these little
squiggly s's almost on their sides, like

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this one that we see down here, and to me it says J.

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Tarr, which would be Jack Terrence. But it also has been perceived to

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say Star, because we see in
Robert Graysmith's book that he has named his

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suspect Star. So of course the
spin off or a playoff of that.

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So I don't know what came first, the book and the naming of star

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or this actual insert that Harriet believes
is actually true and correct and part of

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the Halloween card. So we know
that it says peekaboo. Now where is

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that? Let's see, Oh not
peekaboo. The peekaboo is obviously these eyes

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all over here. So you are
under the impression that this is an actual

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flap that's supposed to be a flat. But where the bike case went?

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If you have the envelope, especially
one that's from Robert Graysmith's book where he

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shows the envelope quite clearly, there
was a flap underneath the October twenty eighth

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section that lifted up and the bike
case was under there. Will let me

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go see if I have it was
in puzzle pieces. Let me go see

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if I have the envelope for that. There it is, Go back,

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go back a couple more. I
did my best. It's there where it

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says the Wednesday, October twenty eighth. I wish I got a clear picture,

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but right here there was it was. He lifted it up and there

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was by case under there. Because
my brother recreated that whole thing. Robert

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Graysmith, people showed them at the
school. He went to how it was

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done. Oh, so you have
suicide information that others brother was starting to

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be a commercial artist like Robert Graysmith, to do cartoons, to do comics,

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and that was a big deal at
the school. He went to John

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O'Connell Vacational High School and Technical Institute. So so that's why I remember him

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working on that. And he lifted
up and there was the by case.

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Now case this is this case is
actually I believe a German cheese. Yeah,

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it's German for cheese. Boy,
just wait until you see the salves

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I get to send you next week. It's German for cheese. He's hinting

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something about this, right well,
because later they they shuffled off onto us.

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The cheese letter, right Well,
it's supposed to be a fake,

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but I found it to be from
Jack and but it's it's a zodiac communication

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that he's making a reference to Gouda
and Malay and all different kind of Well,

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it's a cheese letter because all his
references are are about cheese, which

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is interesting because that would then literally
tie back to this particular flap. So

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I'm finding it hard to believe that
they had made this stuff up themselves.

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But again, now, I guess
there is information that supports that this is

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part of the Halloween card, don't. I don't find that there's any true

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investigative behavior behind what it is that
Tomboy is doing. He is just directing

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people in the direction he wants,
he's giving the information he wants, and

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he's selling his agenda. If it's
so easy to make this stuff up,

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then can you imagine what they have
taken away in hopes that we won't figure

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this out? I mean to me, it speaks volumes that if they're willing

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to make things up or let us
believe they made things up, that they're

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very well capable of changing things,
as you've stated, maybe even the times,

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the timeframes of the letters and things
of that nature. The j TAR

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may very well be evidence that was
help from Yeah that too, right,

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Yeah, he was he was chosen, he was chosen to do what he

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did. So he's just following agenda, just like you said, right,

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And the JTAR may very well be
evidence that was withheld from the public,

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and now voy uses it to disseminate
information. But I could see our author

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autographing his work by all means.
Then Voight followed this with the Monterey Cheese

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letter case is a European Yeah,
we just talked about that, but very

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interesting. Here is an actual interview
in regards to Let's see It says hot

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garbage. Zodiac expert they call Tom
Voight calls bullshit on possible idea of infamous

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serial killer Zodiac Killer. Just the
Facts author Tom Voight tells us why the

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new report about Zodiac Killer's identity is
completely bogus. Rolling Stone spoke to Voight

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on Wednesday about the Bombshell report and
why, in his opinion, it's bullshit.

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It says, you have been researching
the Zodiac Killer for twenty five years.

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What got you into the mystery?
He said? My father was an

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investigative reporter in southern California in the
nineteen sixties. He was a reporter for

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the Los Angeles Herald Exam Examiner.
Is that also owned by Hurst Harriet at

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one point? It was at one
point. I don't know if it still

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is, but that was a herst
paper from what I understand, right,

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Yeah, which was the newspaper that
the black Doahll you avenger wrote to his

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letters to. That's what I grew
up hearing about and seeing and all the

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craziness in southern California at the time, and the Zodiac was part of that.

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The heart of their argument is that
post, and this is who they

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were trying to blame, or they're
trying to say that it is the Zodiac.

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Was this post guy? We have
already shown how he's not, but

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that post maybe killed this possible Zodiac
victim, Sherry Joe Bates. Do you

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think that Bates was killed by the
Zodiac, Voight says, I do believe

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so. The original task force in
November nineteen sixty nine, the Zodiac detectives

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and the Riverside Police got together,
had a meeting and determined through sharing evidence,

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that Zodiac was absolutely responsible for the
murder. That's what they determined,

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and that's what I believe. I'm
glad now if you had to put money

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on God, yeah, I agree. Yeah. What's that one quick question?

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Yeah, that's one point that Boyd
is right on. Yes, Zodiac

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is responsible group Sharry Joe Bates.
Right but even now, right now today,

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right now, what's that question on
that Black Dolia avenger. Does that

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mean he's avenging the death of Black
Doahlia or he just yeah, because there

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were several women murdered after Elizabeth Short
or is black Dahlia want a victim of

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the same murderer or group of murderers. Jack's series is offense, so he's

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an avenger. He's avenging what what
got into that? What got her killed?

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Yeah? No, because he was
Jack new Elizabeth Short in Illinois and

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followed her or I don't know if
he followed her, but they both came

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out to La at the same time. Yes, and then she died within

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a year after that, right right. They were visiting the Bill Hyron's trial

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in the Lipstick case in nineteen forty
six, and then by January nineteen forty

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seven she was dead. So it
says, if you had to put your

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money on one suspect, who would
it be? Voight, says Richard Gaikowski

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is my best bet if I was, if I was an employer looking to

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hire the Zodiac, he'd probably had
the most impressive resume in my eyes.

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I cannot find anything that has an
impressiveness for this man. But the reality

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is that Alan is the suspect.
You just can't quit. I just can't

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heard it. I he was,
he was he actually he actually produced I

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think some type of a play or
movie or something in San Francisco, right,

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Ariot, I think, so it's
it's very minimal. It's it's hardly

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nothing to show that is in something. What's that I I talked about him

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at some point in time and during
the podcast as and showed how he could

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be excluded. Number One, he's
not a match to the composite. He's

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far too tall, far too skinny. He looks nothing like the Zodiac's composite.

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And he was also gay. So
what I read was his obituary that

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was written by his former lover,
who talked about all of the things that

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he had done. So here's another
person who's you know, in in the

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I called hollyweird stuff. You know, he's out there making movies, doing

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things. Obviously, we're clearly too
busy to be running around killing people and

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creating all this havoc. But he
names that and then says Arthur Lee Allen

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again, Well, gosh, Arthur
Lee Allen has been cleared so many times

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for him to even maybe when the
book came out exactly it is just it

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is the biggest joke that I can't
even imagine. But he says, but

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the reality is that Alan is the
suspect. You just can't quit. I

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just can't quit that big al,
especially now I'm going over all these old

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emails and tips and leads going back
twenty five years and some of the stuff

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that was that was said to me
about there's so many duplicate words in here,

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bad article about how it is just
mind boggling. Yeah, if he

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wasn't, if he wasn't the Zodiac, he might be responsible for some other

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murders. Why do you think Fox
News picked up the story? They asked,

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and he said it was probably some
overnight intern that didn't read the press

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release carefully, didn't realize it was
just a publicity thing, and threw it

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in the news feed. And then
other people thought, well, this must

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be legit. It's on Fox News, and so they started recycling. And

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it's so funny because there's not even
one person who has had any trouble seen

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through this. For what it is
comical, extremely comical. This many Yeah,

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he's a voice of reason here.
And then that brings us to his

404
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:51.480
little hate camp. And I wanted
to go over the emails or this attempt

405
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:55.320
to or rouse to mess with Dennis
and I and Harriet with this by case

406
00:34:55.440 --> 00:35:01.199
thing and buy and the cheese letter. So here is the link, which

407
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:05.440
I need to go back and see
if this link actually still takes me to

408
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:09.440
it, but it says you missed
this one. It doesn't. I'm surprised.

409
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:15.320
I know lots of things have been
Anything that was connected to Dennis Kaufman

410
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.239
in any way, shape or form
has been erased off the internet. So

411
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:22.559
it's a good thing we saved this
stuff right well, And that's what Moonlight

412
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:29.239
was telling me. She was saying, it's very very disconcerting that or concerning

413
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:32.480
that all of this stuff has been
removed. You know, Aphrodity Jones segment

414
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:37.719
is no longer available on the Internet
for people to view. His web page

415
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:43.119
has been taken down, like so
many things have occurred to erase him basically

416
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:46.039
from the history. At the same
time, they started trying to bifurcate these

417
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:52.159
cases by saying or claiming that Cherry
Jobates wasn't killed by the Zodiac killer.

418
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.440
We know very well different. But
it's a new generation and if they can

419
00:35:55.519 --> 00:36:00.559
promote this information, then people are
surely never going to put these together.

420
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:06.400
And that's why I'm glad I'm still
here to share what everybody has collectively done

421
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:10.239
in this case between you, Dennis, myself, Nolan's knowledge all of this

422
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:15.960
stuff. It's great that we're here. So Sad Badge hit me up on

423
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:20.480
June seventh of two thousand and nine
and said, we have reasonably years fifty

424
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:25.159
years later. What was that,
Nolan, It's amazing that forty fifty years

425
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:30.360
later that they're still suppressing stuff.
It's because there's people people out there.

426
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:37.840
There are still few to suppressed information. I think. I think that there

427
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:40.199
are people still very much alive that
could be connected to this. And this

428
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:45.280
is why it's not results untils.
There's a shift change until people are dead

429
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:49.199
and people cannot be harmed by this
information anymore, I think, and we

430
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.440
see that in pretty much just about
every operation that the CIA or government does.

431
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:57.800
It isn't. It isn't until twenty
thirty years later we learn the effects

432
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.199
of something they've done to us because
we're fine, we granted the information,

433
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:12.800
yes, Jac, well, yeah, they don't have invented all this information

434
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:16.719
in code. He left it to
be fair hiding in plain sight the whole

435
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:22.519
time. What if you erased which
what I'm doing, but if you erase

436
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.079
Jack from the scenario like they've done. It's going to be very complicated to

437
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:32.400
put that stuff together, right,
I mean if you get rid of yeah,

438
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:38.480
right. I just kept see coding
and and unraveling and revealing and things

439
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:44.719
that we're hiding at plain sight on
envelopes. People didn't and we finally and

440
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:49.480
we finally got to see those solves
come into play, makes sense and show

441
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.280
that there is a reality behind those
solves, and that I'm most excited for,

442
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:57.880
Sad Badge said. Sad Badge said
to me, we have reason to

443
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.679
believe perezent Company were paid to create
a firestorm to both distract from and discredit

444
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:07.280
mister Kaufman. Void is being held
at the Federal Detention Center and Sheridan Oregon

445
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:09.960
in Bolston Road. I believe you
can call them and confirm. I thought

446
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.199
you'd like to break the announcement and
get credit, but I suppose it can

447
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:16.119
wait until the news picks it up. I said, tell me, you're

448
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:21.039
not kidding, because I have info
that SFPD was planning to back that wacko

449
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.159
deveror Perez and the FBI is watching
for it. He says, you may

450
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:29.320
announce that mister Voyd is being held
as we speak this week will feature huge

451
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:31.679
news, maybe the story of a
century. Oprah, here you come.

452
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:37.039
It isn't me that solved this.
I wish people could understand. I only

453
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:42.400
put the information together in chronological order
to be able to show and support that

454
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:46.079
Jack is the best suspect. Dennis
solved this. Dennis figured this out.

455
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:53.880
Not Miss Dennis had the right.
Oh absolutely, she was backed by my

456
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:59.000
own mentor who tried to keep me
from coming to my opinion or expressing my

457
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:01.760
opinion on the news. He was
going to do a book in a documentary

458
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:07.360
about her. It was a complete
farce. And yet the farce was extended

459
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:13.760
to SFPD giving hundreds of hours to
her story, testing glasses, testing key,

460
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:15.880
everything that was found to be false
and negative. And they came out

461
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:21.119
later and it's like I said,
they come out with this huge publicity release

462
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:24.280
that goes across all the news stations
that we've got, we've got the suspect,

463
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:28.239
and then when they find out it's
false, you get a three second

464
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:31.840
blurb somewhere that they've been excluded and
they are not. So nobody half of

465
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:36.519
America never even hears that three second
blurb where they turn around and say the

466
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:44.079
person was false. Yeah, wasting
time and taxpayer money. Absolutely, the

467
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:47.960
interrogation sad Badge sent me another email
on June seventh, saying, the interrogation

468
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:52.599
facilities are second to none. Why
would I give you such specific info if

469
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:54.519
I was being deceptive in any event? If you don't believe me, I'm

470
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:58.280
sure you'll watch it on the news. I never saw it on the news,

471
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.480
guys, and I ever saw that
the fb I was holding Voight or

472
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:05.639
or was questioning him. So I
said, the center you referred to in

473
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:08.519
a is a prison, not an
FBI detention center. Are you messing with

474
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:14.039
me? And that's when he responded
that they were interrogation facilities. I don't

475
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:15.559
know the truth of it. I'm
sure I could have called, but I

476
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:19.199
would have just gotten the run around. Nobody would have answered my call,

477
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:24.800
let alone any information in regards to
them having Tom Voight. Why would Yeah?

478
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:31.039
Why they were saying because of the
the farce of Deborah Perez. Oh

479
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:37.360
okay, it wasn't that backed by
mel Belli's people too. Yes, yes,

480
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:43.559
the attorney, the attorney that represented
her was or was her spokesperson,

481
00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:47.000
was the Dispard partner. I think
of Flee Bailey or Melvin Belli one of

482
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:51.280
the two. I think it was
Flee Bailey, but e Flee Bailey was

483
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:59.639
related to Melvin Belli. The circle
gets even wider when right and and and

484
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:05.159
my mentor who was backing the Debora
Perez Farce also worked with Tom Voyd on

485
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:08.960
America's Most Wanted on with John Walsh, So we can see the neat little

486
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:14.679
yeah, I mean, it just
doesn't get any more obvious as to who

487
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:21.320
is doing what and is behind the
misconception and misinformation or disinformation that we're being

488
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:31.280
given notoriety quick point. In the
Boston Strangler case, he represented Descelvo and

489
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:36.719
Uh may or may not have been
Boston Strangler. I don't think he was,

490
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:43.239
but later in Sir Hansor Hand's notebook
the name Dessalvo appears over and over.

491
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:55.360
Anyway, slow aside stuff. I
think the guy that Uh was convicted

492
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:59.920
in the Boston Strangler murders, and
definitely Bailey was his lawyer. He got

493
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:07.519
basically Coppa ply and he brought in
doctors, mental doctors to hypnotize them and

494
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:14.840
things like that. Is a lot
of hypnoteses mk ultra that type of thing

495
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:19.360
going on. And then Sir Hansor
hann Is talking about him in his own

496
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.800
same thing. Yeah, yeah,
No. For some reason, in his

497
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.599
notebook, the name the slave all
appears over and over along with you know,

498
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:31.920
Kennedy must die blah blah blah,
and this repetitive writing in his notebook.

499
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:37.400
Weird. Well, we also had
let's see, So, Sad Badge

500
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.719
tells me on June tenth of two
thousand and nine, I would prefer to

501
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:45.360
communicate through the message board, so
there's a public record in the event something

502
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.320
happens to me. Perhaps you could
start a new thread called sad Badge I'll

503
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:52.519
be in touch soon, which I
did. I created the sad bash thread

504
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:57.159
so you can go to my message
board and you can actively see the communications

505
00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:02.239
and conversations that we were having.
He I sent to him an email that

506
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:07.760
said investigative reporter journalist Larry Garrison comes
forward to support the evidence that Guy Hendrickson

507
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:13.079
is the Zodiac Killer Los Angeles.
And Guy Hendrickson, by the way,

508
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:19.960
is the adoptive father of Deborah Perez
and not the author of the Zodiac Letters.

509
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:23.000
I have completed a handwriting examination for
his biological daughter and he has been

510
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:29.519
excluded as a possible author. Albeit
mart Maggott said that Deborah Perez showed a

511
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:34.760
genetic predisposition to write like the Zodiac
is a complete farce as well, because

512
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:39.119
she is not even biologically related to
the man. But so this press release

513
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:45.920
comes through and says Los Angeles June
nine PRN Newswire first, for the first

514
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:49.320
time in twenty five years, the
San Francisco Police Department will call in a

515
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:53.159
key potential witness for questioning to identify
the Zodiac killer. Officially, Debah Perez

516
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:58.920
has been called in by Lieutenant Michael
Stascos, Badge number seven to four of

517
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:02.440
the SFPD Homicide Unit. Date to
appear as June seventeen, two thousand and

518
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:07.000
nine. She will be questioned about
her father, guy Ward Hendrickson. The

519
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:13.360
nation's top forensic experts have endorsed her
handwriting, psychological and DNA evidence showing participation

520
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:19.599
in the Zodiac killings. Her evidence
was recently turned over to Lieutenant Stascos of

521
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:24.199
SFPD. What a joke that hit
the news? Why that was on PRN

522
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:30.639
news the pr Now didn't you also
say over the news? Every Oh,

523
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:35.440
it hit so hard. And that's
because just a week earlier, or maybe

524
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:37.920
a month earlier, I had released
the opinion that Jack Terrence had wrote the

525
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:45.039
letters. What a farce. Forensic
experts have endorsed her handwriting, psychological and

526
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:51.159
DNA evidence showing participation in the Zodiac
killings. Where did this evidence go to?

527
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:55.719
Who are they misleading? And why
such bulks? Yes? And why

528
00:44:55.840 --> 00:45:04.559
is the definitely why is the SFPV
so lame? Dennis said that at one

529
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:07.199
point in time he was told by
one of the s FPD officers that all

530
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:14.039
of his evidence that he took there
was round filed. Yeah, well so.

531
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:19.679
Also, the FBI and the CIA
have infiltrated almost every major police force

532
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:27.639
in the country, entire departmentspapers,
everything, no media, all of it.

533
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:34.239
It's crazy. They have to be
the secret Service. The CIA infiltrated

534
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:39.159
the Service prior to kennedy assassination.
Oh boy, there's something that's not being

535
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:45.440
addressed at this point the way the
media was going. But there was a

536
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:52.840
woman who was at the same time
coming up with her documentation that she was

537
00:45:52.039 --> 00:46:00.199
a Kennedy baby. That but a
real one, a real one that is

538
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:07.800
related related to Marilyn Monroe Norma Jean. Her biological name and her name is

539
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:15.400
Gladys Baker Morris. She had also
came up with something after fighting for years

540
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.559
at the same time period. The
reason why I discovered this was I'm seeing

541
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:27.639
Jack doing decoded missus years later,
the name of Gladys Baker, a baby

542
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.119
that's supposed to be a Kennedy baby, but not John F. Kennedy.

543
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:37.519
It's showing up in decoded missives,
the name of Gladys Baker. I seen

544
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:40.519
a picture of that woman and she
looks she looks a lot like Marilyn Monroe.

545
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:45.840
Yeah, because sir, she was
raised as a biological like a like

546
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:52.039
a second cousin, but looking like
her. And then she finds out that

547
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:57.199
on the deathbed, the mother's deathbed
who she thought was her mother anyways,

548
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.639
adoptive mother anyway, anyway, she
says, well, you're actually a Monroe

549
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:05.760
and a Kennedy baby, and you
know, best of luck trying to get

550
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:09.159
the paperwork to prove this. And
that was happening at the same time period.

551
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:14.920
I didn't know about its until I'm
decoding. Well. Deborah Perez also

552
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.239
had been on the Internet claiming to
be the love child of JFK. So

553
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:24.320
it's I honestly that we find we
find her involved with disseminating information in two

554
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:30.280
of the hottest cases around, the
Zodiac Killer and the love child of JFK

555
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:36.039
and Marilyn Monroe. This is just
insane not to be believed, whatsoever misinformation,

556
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:43.400
misperation. They were doing their best
to bury us with bullshit media stuff,

557
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:47.920
don't. This is the continuation of
that article. It says Deborah Perez

558
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:52.400
was seven years old at the time
she became his innocent sidekick. Deborah became

559
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:58.000
aware of her father's involvement in the
Zodiac murders years later after viewing a segment

560
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:01.800
of America's Most Wanted composite. And
here we got America's Most Wanted included you

561
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:07.480
guys. I know I used to
respect John Edward Walsh, junior diplomat Hotel

562
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:14.920
Cocaine guy. Is that I got? It's in the books that you've got.

563
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:19.519
Now there was reasons why he went
after him, but for some reason,

564
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:23.519
we've got we're down to one minute. We're down to one sorry,

565
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:25.880
no, no, no, that's
okay. I just want to give us

566
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:30.039
that tim or we're down to one
minute. So I really I'll finish off

567
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:35.159
these articles and everything next week,
but I want to if you have anything

568
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:38.360
really quick to say before we let
everybody go. I want to wish everyone

569
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:42.760
a happy new year. Thank you
for being here, thank you for supporting

570
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:46.920
the podcast. It's been another amazing
year. Yes very much. A happy

571
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:51.559
new year everybody. Yes, it's
I think it's going to be a great

572
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.519
January. Just wait until you see
what I'm sending to you in the net

573
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:59.800
this weekend. Okay, I'm actually
going to be filming a documentary the weekend

574
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:01.039
of the fifth, which is why
I want to do that pre record.

575
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:05.119
So we're gonna stay online, you
guys, don't hop off so that we

576
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:07.480
can talk with one after this.
Everybody, have a wonderful cakend, a

577
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:10.480
wonderful happy New Year, and we
will see you next Friday.