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True seekers and true crime junkies.
Welcome back to another episode of Hit the

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Road, Jack Finding the Zodiac.
I want to at least bring in right

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now. Nolan del Campo, good
boring, and Harriet Souchet, Good morning.

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I wanted to start Actually today,
you guys are gonna have to excuse

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my voice. I've been getting over
a head cold for the last couple of

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weeks. Hopefully I make it through
this without losing it. Terry Batcher actually

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had some extremely good points that he
made in regards to last week's episode,

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and some of them pointed at all
of us, so I thought I'd discussed

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those with us real quick before we
get started. He said he was catching

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up on episode one eleven the person
in that picture, So we looked at

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a picture last week that was on
the Black Doll You documentary, and we

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just we discussed whether or not the
YouTuber had believed it was Jack Terrence,

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and I said that I didn't believe
it was. He stated that the person

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in that picture was identified specifically as
I recall he was e Schwart's boyfriend at

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the time, and his name escapes
me, but I can find it for

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you. He said, Suddenly the
name Fickling comes to mind. Do you

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remember that name Fickleing Fickerling blacked all
his boyfriends. Well, it made sense.

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That's why I had remembered actually seeing
that face before, is because that

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I believe he's correct. I believe
Terry is correct in the fact that that

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was a man named Fickling or Fickerlan
or something. Might have to go back

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in the presentation to check it out, but I just got this last night.

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So anyways, he said. When
he went on to talk about because

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we've been discussing Gaikowski, he said, when all of the other PET suspects

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failed to fit the bill, the
TV camp dredged up the name Gaikowski.

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Remember that folk described the purp as
being of Welsh descent, not Polish.

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So you guys know, d you
know what I'm referring to. Oh,

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well, it would explain the color
of the hair, right, the red

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hair of the reds brown hair.
So basically, Folk was the police officer

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in the presidio who witnessed and spoke
to the Zodiac that night as he escaped,

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because he said that he saw a
man running around the corner with a

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gun, and the cops sped after
that person, but then he turned around.

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The Zodiac turned around and wrote a
letter stating they had me. Basically,

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I was there, I spoke to
them. I told him to go

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look for this guy running with a
gun. So he admittedly stated he had

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spoken to the police officer. The
police officers the one that gave the original

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composite sketch in the San Francisco psidio
or the killing of Fallstein. So the

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fact that that officer said that he
was of Welsh descent, not Polish descent,

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kind of kicks the whole idea that
gay Kowski is our guy, since

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he's Polish, not of a Welsh
background. So he did one of the

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reasons I was gonna say, one
of the reasons the cops didn't detain the

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guy because the first APB that went
out listed the suspect was a black man.

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Correct, correct, So yeah,
well whatever reason, that's wild,

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that's crazy, that's very that's very
wild. There's a big difference between black

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and white male, right, I
mean that. I think that was almost

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kind of a setup in itself.
Anyways, he went on to correct me

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and tell me that a thirty thirty
is a high powered rifle, not a

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shotgun. What he's referring to is
me stating that Stephen Dewhurst had wrote it

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written in his book that Danny Reynolds
had been busted trying to rob a liquor

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store with Jack's thirty thirty. I
called it a shotgun when it turns out

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it's a high power rifle. He
said. Special ammunition might have been fabricated

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to fire shot or pellets, but
highly unlikely. A model ninety four Winchester

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thirty to thirty rifle was a very
popular weapon in those days. He also

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said that Nolan had a good point
at twelve minutes and forty seconds into the

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podcast. Yeah, yeah, you
give me the details, don't tell me

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twelve forty So I'm not sure what
he really about what you said, but

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you can go back to twelve forty
in last week's episode, and see what

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you said that he thought was very
astute. He goes on to say,

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punched out triggers for him, IBM
computer punch card files. I think PAL

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capitalized obviously as an acronym, is
another computer reference from Secret Powell. He

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says, reference to Harriet and roundabout. In fact, from an aerial view,

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there was and may still be a
perfectly round oppression that fills with snow.

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The cops never made it clear if
that was where the evidence of the

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human remains were discovered but later mysteriously
removed, And aerial view is the key

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thing to making note, he says, in his honest opinion, and that's

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in regards to the roundabout that you
talk. He's right, he's he's right,

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the eyes of Texas. You have
no idea what I'm talking about.

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But he's right then that we were
the only ones spying on us as well

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as Russia. So the area of
view, the stuff that I'm seeing,

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yes, he's correct, Actually amazing, He says, bear in mind that

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the whole punch is perfectly round,
and IBM, whole punch is rectangular.

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Another keyword is incline the artifact that
I'm talking about is on the base of

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the incline of a certain hill.
Hey, I tipped the cops to look

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there several years ago, and shortly
afterwards there was some detectable movements and updates

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that occurred. I don't know what, but that's again, I guess another

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one of those things. So basically, he says another historial, historical zodiac

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jack keyword is the word secret,
as in secret pal, secret witness,

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secret Santa from the JBR case,
and perhaps secret friend too police spelled incorrectly

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on the Ramsey murder note as well, So those were kind of some of

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his ad ins. I like to
get him involved when there's computer stuff involved,

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because he's more the technical IT guy
than me, or I assume any

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of the rest of us, since
we can't maneuver our own EarPods do that

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for me exactly. I tell Dean, the one that owns Talk for TV,

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I tell him all the time.
I stay in my lane. I

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do not try to do things that
I'm unfamiliar with. I feel like I'm

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gonna change something inevitably that will damage
my entire computer, so I don't even

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try. I let somebody do it, all right, So I'm gonna flip

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over to the presentation because we are
still quibbling with this guy from Poland.

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And I can get it. I
get it now. If this guy's from

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Poland and he wants this Polish guy
to be his key suspect, that's fine.

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But he actually hit me up with
a couple of things I felt to

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be a little bit offensive and also
a little bit ridiculous. So, oh,

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you know what, Harriet, actually, when you're solved last week talked

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about Cia. Yes, ugly DMV
Doris see me leave west Lake Herman Road.

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Are you saying DMV Doris because you
believed she worked at DMV? According

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to what I got, she was
briefly working for the DMV in the Fairfield

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something area, just only briefly,
so so he So that's why he's taunting

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her. And they must have saw
her at the DMV, I wonder.

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And and of course we have the
series of Fairfield letters that came out from

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the Yeah, it has something to
do with somebody in Fairfield. Boy,

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I got some more coming up too. Okay, I just wanted to clarify

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that because I did not discuss that
last week. So anyways, Liberton sixty

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six two one YouTuber says he totally
disagrees that that Gaikowski is not the suspect.

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He says, I'm waiting for your
new material because I think you really

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manipulating your audience. Oh I'll empty
altar of yountt. Yeah, I've got

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these secret words that are triggering everybody
to believe me. Yeah. Ah,

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well, I told him the material
doesn't become new, So waiting isn't privative.

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I'm simply giving the information on my
suspect, which has a match to

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the handwriting and all the capabilities needed
to be the likes of the Zodiac Killer,

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and so much more. This is
in no way manipulating the audience.

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Gykowski neither has the skill set or
the makings to be the Zodiac Killer.

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Otherwise, I have not seen one
piece of credible evidence that shows he has

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any of the training or background that
makes for a serial killer. You know,

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people want to talk about his height, his size. He's a journalist.

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He lied about where he was when
he wrote a story, he plagiarized

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somebody else's article. All these things, they claim was his way of covering

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up the fact that he was truly
back here in the United States killing somebody.

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Instead of over in Europe, as
his passport dictates. So this guy

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goes on to say, first,
I have to say sorry about my poor

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English. Stop apologizing for your English. If you're Polish, okay, I'm

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a journalist from Poland. He says, Well, now we know why you're

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trying to distract everybody with nonsense about
gay Kowski. You're not doing your investigative

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work, sir. He says,
I do my private research for z crimes

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about a couple of years, and
I have a few answers for you.

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So he's been doing it for a
couple of years. I've been doing it

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for almost seventeen. How long have
you been doing this, Harriet? It

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actually starts out when I was ten
or eleven when I saw the zodiac,

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but definitely by nineteen ninety five,
So yeah, we're talking about closing in

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on thirty years, right. And
then Nolan, you're just a history buff

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from mc git, so I'm gonna
say you've known about a lot of this

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stuff all your life. Yes,
I'm an avid reader. So between the

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two of us, we likely have
somewhere near seventy eighty years of experience with

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this crap. In combination, I'm
working together to kind of sort out the

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truth. So I loved it that, he said. He's been doing it

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for a couple of years and he's
got answers for me. He says,

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you know why in a dec in
cipher is geyke not geyke, And he

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spells it the two ways. Obviously, the one that is premised in the

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in the cipher is g y k
E, and Geyke actually would have been

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g a i K. There was
no reason to change that. There was

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no reason to go by g y
k E when g a i K actually

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is sufice for guyke. It's self
explanatory. When you cut somebody's name and

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half for nickname, you use that
portion of their their name, right,

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Yes, that's the ultimate and force
fitting something I definitely try to avoid.

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This is somebody trying to force fit
something a square peg into a round hole.

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It just doesn't work, right,
he said, Because Gaikowski is a

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Polish surname, and up for up
for this nickname Geike, you have word

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cause and if you take those K
you also have y and upright, so

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you have this geyk ouves key and
you've got the phonetic version of his surname

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in Polish language. Is Guyjkowski gas
Cow, So he's now changed the spelling

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of it one more time to ga
j Awski. I'm at a loss that

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they've twisted this name so many times
because what they found was gyke. Either

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way, you guys have fun with
twisting names, he says, I thought

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was more important. He says,
we absolutely don't know what he was doing

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from sixty one, but he worked
for the newspapers in the San Francisco area

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from sixty one and then sixty two
to seventy one, first in Martinez,

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where he probably met Darlen Darlene.
He says, probably not he did,

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but probably met Darlene, so there's
no evidence there that they knew each other.

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Then he followed her to Albany and
go back to San Francisco after Darlene

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back, maybe one week after her
return. He said. First time that

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he told that he was gay was
in seventy seventy one, in a Good

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Times article. He says, please
do your research, greetings from Poland all

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right, the other way around,
dude, I said, please do not

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tell someone to do their research.
You have no idea what I've researched,

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and I already know all those things
about geik, and I spelt it correctly.

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You think he only turned gay in
seventy seventy one when he came out,

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laughed my ass off. That's hilarious. He was likely gay his entire

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life. Of the gay serial killers
that I'm aware of, they kill same

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sex, not opposite sex, and
typically speaking, it's because they don't want

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somebody to know they're gay, so
they're having interrelations with these gay men.

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In my I haven't seen a lesbian
serial killer, but in the gay serial

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killing realm we have what was his
the clown guy. I'm gonna lose his

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name. He's dressed as a clown
and he was taking all these boys.

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He stashed him under his house,
wow in the well. Basically, he

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was gay, but he didn't want
anybody to know he was gay, so

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he was making dates and having sex
with these boys and men and then killing

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them because he didn't want it to
get out that he was gay. Oh,

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why can't I think of his name? It'll come to me anyways.

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It's not John Way Casey Gaysey.
Yeah. Okay, see I've been doing

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too much of this stuff. Okay, yeah, Well, John Wayne Gaysey

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came across as a straight heterosexual male
who was in fact actually likely gay and

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didn't want anybody to know it.
So we was killing all of the men

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he was actually bringing home and sleeping
with, and then he'd stash him underneath

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the house, in the crawl space
beneath it. So they came in and

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found bodies. What's that that must
have sunk? Haha? He had a

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lot of lie, I was if
I launched a documentary, had a lot

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of lie down there. I said, it's not the first name of a

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suspect that people have tried to twist. What's that you put light on his

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legs? All right, I'm gonna
let that one be that. My head's

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still a little cloudy from this cold, but I got it. I said,

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it is not the It is not
the first name of a suspect that

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people have tried to twist in some
way into the cipher. It is literally

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the most ridiculous reason to call someone
a serial killer without any other behaviors that

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backet that up. It is so
easy for you geich fans, and I

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spelt it incorrectly in that case to
negate that the handwriting doesn't match and that

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he does not look anything like the
original composite, and that the psychological assessment

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of the Zodiac killer is that he
hates women gay men love women, not

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just not just not sexual, just
not sexually. I'm sorry, PS,

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I have researched these cases, false
suspects and sorted through the bs of disinformation

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for fifteen years. You just got
started, so please catch up. I

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hope not no losing. So I
started to compile some I started to compile

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some pictures of Gaikowski. And we
can see a couple of them that Tom

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Voit and over here is this Gaikowski. Na, that's Tom Voit. But

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what's his face doing? In a
conglomeration of Gaikowski pictures? Hear me?

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I can hear you? Can you
hear us? So here's even other one.

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I think she might be breaking up
and breaking out. I don't know

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anyways. I know she's gonna have
to figure it out. I have to

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keep on going. Gaikowski travels.
It's a journalist, Okay, Gaikowski travels

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as a journalist for one month.
But we know that visas and passports get

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extended all the time. Even if
he came home by December first, nineteen

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sixty eight. Do they seriously want
us to believe that he traveled to other

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countries and came home to start a
killing spree. I mean, that's what

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this guy is wanting us to believe, that he's out there acting as a

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journalist and turning around and being a
serial killer. So this is his request

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for a passport, and he applies
for the passport on October thirteenth, nineteen

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sixty eight, with the departure date
of November one, nineteen sixty eight,

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for the following countries. United Kingdom
and Belfast, Ireland happens to be one

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of the places he writes his article
out of that. They have claimed he's

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plagiarized. He's going to go to
France and he's going to go to Spain.

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The article at their stating that he
plagiarized was written on January thirty first

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of nineteen sixty nine, which obviously
far extends the one month period he was

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due to be out of the country, But again, passports and visas are

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all extendable once you get there,
especially if you're working. So basically,

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their claim that he plagiarized this particular
article and wrote it to make it appear

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as though he was in Belfast on
January thirty first would have given him an

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alibi of being out of the country
this entire time writing articles in regards to

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things that were going on in a
countries. Either way, this picture is

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actually rather shocking because I'm going to
show you a lineup of what I could

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find to be Gaikowski's pictures over the
last several decades of his life. So

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over here in the left hand corner
we have what appears to be either a

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high school graduation it's probably twelfth grade
graduation picture, I would guess, very

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very young Gaikowski. They actually just
opposed that to the actual composite of the

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Zodiac Killer, but they're completely missing
all of the other elements, which is

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the turkey neck down here, the
wrinkles on the forehead. They had to

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get rid of all that. So
if anybody's manipulating anything, mister Libertine,

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it's the images that are being put
on the Internet to try and persuade the

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public that Gaikowski is the Zodiac Killer. He's just not. But we get

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over into college era here we can
see and this is where I maintain he

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was gay long before he came out
in seventy seventy one. We see this

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is more likely one of his military
pictures fifty five fifty six. And then

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we see this picture oftentimes just opposed
to the actual composite, and we can

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see it looks absolutely one hundred percent
nothing like the composite. If that one

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guy's forty ish, that's Jack and
the other one is what I mean what

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at this particular time he'd have been
through in nineteen sixty five, he would

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have been twenty nine years old,
So I'm highly doubting. This does not

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look like a twenty nine year old
Gaikowski to me. We hop over here

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to his passport picture in nineteen sixty
eight. Look at the differences between the

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two. Yes, one is a
hell of a lot younger looking than the

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other picture. And this one actually
predates it, because this one's in nineteen

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sixty five, this one's nineteen sixty
eight. We see a very very square

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jaw line, very very square,
and he maintains and has that square jaw

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line all the way. Look at
his nineteen ninety line, CODO, what's

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that? Say that again? It's
got long chin. The second right,

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his chin is long. Who's this
one? That's just the way he smiled,

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That's just the way he's smiling,
okay, Yeah, and we can

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see there is no there is no
square squareness of the jawline and the composite

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whatsoever right, very thin, very
large chin. I think that that might

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be why they're throwing this one up. But I think that this one is

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disinformation. I don't necessarily believe.
Well, I'm not even sure it's Kaykowski

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to begin with, because it doesn't
even indicate his name here. It just

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says Contra Costa County, California County, Jail ten nine sixty five. But

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when I look at these two pictures
back to back, they look to me

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within three years to be two totally
different people. Yeah, don't let the

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glasses fool you, because obviously that
can cover some things up. But as

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far as like, look at how
far back the hairline is right here on

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this particular side, we don't see
that. Over here, we see more

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of a squared off line. So
I don't know. I just started looking

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at these pictures and thought something is
off here, something is not right either

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way. As I go through it, not one of these pictures look like

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the composite that has been given of
the Zodiac Killer though, and the fact

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that he's Polish and not of Welsh
descent, which is what the officer described

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is likely more more true what the
officer is saying than what Libertine is saying.

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Anyways, then I just pulled up
both of them. So this one

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being from nineteen sixty eight when he
applied for that is the closest picture in

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timeframe to the one year later in
the Pallstein murder that the officer witnessed.

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And once again we can see this
very heavy square jaw line, and that

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is not consistent with what we're seeing
in the Zodiac composite. All right,

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that brings us back to the I
forty five murders. Now, you had

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said, Harriet, that you didn't
believe Jack was respond for the I forty

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five murners. You yours sorry,
Well, I said, you believe you

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believe that Jack was not responsible for
the I forty five. No, no,

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he didn't. From what I got, it was shocking one right after

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the other. In fact, it's
known, but you have to dig deep

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that Robert Abel confessed to killing Colette. Wilson tried to get help, but

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the Terrant County DA last named Coffee
quit the next morning. He said,

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in a matter of words, Hell, no, I'm not going to prosecute

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somebody works for NAST with Cold War
secrets in their head. So so he

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did try to confess Robert Abel WoT
Yeah, Yeah, it says in the

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two thousand and five But here's what
it says. In the two thousand and

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five letter that I know was written
by the Zodiac, it stated that NASA,

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it's again, come on, NASA, devil sought Abel. Basically,

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he's stating that he knows that Abel
works for NASA, that he's not the

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devil sought by the League City police. And he states in that same letter

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that there were more than one person's
other than himself who were committing these crimes

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like the murder of Laura Miller,
which is Tim Miller of Texas Equisearch's daughter.

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He indicated that there was someone else
that was killing Hispanics and Chinese,

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and that there were other people during
the eighties series. The thing that I

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have is that I was able to
actually locate pictures of Jack in the area

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in Texas on nearly every single murder
that had occurred that I have in this

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presentation, and it was something that
I was able to show Dennis. We

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mapped it out. I said,
here's the picture during this timeframe, Jack

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is in Texas when this happens.
Now, these pictures went missing when Tim

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Miller and Steph Watts, I believe
was his photographer, had come to discuss

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the case with Dennis and I and
spent a few days going through Jack's stuff

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and looking through the evidence, and
I was able to show them how every

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single one of these pictures were consistent
with a day and timeframe that somebody was

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murdered in Texas and Jack was there. Well. All of a sudden,

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in the middle of a big fight
with everybody, because they had told me

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that Dennis offered to sell the driver's
licenses from the victims to them, I

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lost my stuff. I thought we
weren't in this to sell anything. We

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were in this to get the truth
out. So I got really upset and

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in an argument with Dennis. In
the middle of that argument, after we

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came back inside, all of a
sudden, we could never find those pictures

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again. You think they stolen.
Somebody did, something happened, something went

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somewhere. Dennis was on board with
the fact that Jack was probably part of

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some of them that were going on
in Texas, so I don't see him

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getting rid of them on purpose.
But we could never find them again,

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not even after Dennis and I made
up, after that whole experience, could

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we ever find those pictures again.
So that brings us to the first I

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forty five murder, and this is
where it begins. On June seventeenth of

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nineteen seventy one with Colnett Collette,
a niece Wilson, on Highway six and

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County Road ninety nine. She was
found at Attics Reservoir. She was found

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nude, a gunshot to the head. It was a waterway dump site,

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as we know, was something that
the Zodiac did. And it looks or

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it would appear that Jack is on
his way home from d C because when

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we looked at the last crime,
it was actually in the DC area as

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the DC Freeway Phantom, So this
would be a natural progression back and forth

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to DC while he committed this.
And everybody needs to keep in mind that

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the DC Freeway Phantom was again about
ten eleven months free where the killer popped

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up and then fell off the face
of the earth as quick as he popped

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up, which is exactly what happened
in the Zodiac case. It was approximately

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eleven months long, and then we
have him disappearing obviously into the abyss if

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you're not going to if you're going
to choose not to believe all the communications

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he sent where he says he's still
actively killing. So a little bit of

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a background on this, we can
see that sagein Texas was originally way back

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in the day where I thought Jack
had actually been. But I also found

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out he had residences over in the
Houston area, so not as far away

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as we thought. Colette thirteen,
disappeared from the Alvin bus stop in Galvinston,

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On, Texas on June seventeenth,
nineteen seventy one. Her body was

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later found near Adis Reservoir. She
had been shot in the head. Four

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months later, the body of nineteen
year old Gloria Gonzalez was found near the

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reservoir, just thirty five yards from
where Colette had been located. Gloria had

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also been shot. Colette and Gloria's
murders are thought to be related to the

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disappearances and murders of twenty six other
girls and women from the Galveston area since

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nineteen teen seventy one. Now I
know that I have pictures of Jack during

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this from seventy one on I want
to say seventy one through the eighties,

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actually into the nineties. It says
actually she was dropped off by our band

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director, Charlie Mays at the corner
of Highway six and our county Road ninety

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five to walk home and was abducted
from there. There is no bus stop

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there. It was just a long
gravel county road. The county is Brazoria

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and the town is Alvin. Galveston
is a very long ways from Alvin.

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Her body was discovered on November twenty
sixth, nineteen seventy one, so there's

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a little bit of information there.
But if we cross reference the fact that

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both Collette and Gloria, who has
obviously with the last name Gonzalez, is

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of Hispanic descent, this GLORYA Gonzalez
we would rule out based on the letter

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because he stated he did not kill
anybody who is Hispanic or Chinese. That

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brings us back to California by June
nineteenth, nineteen seventy one. I'm saying

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all of this is doable. We
know that Jack is an avid traveler.

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He travels fast because he's usually doing
methamphetamines. So he is driving straight through

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on whatever he's doing, and he
can make it to some amazing places in

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the limited amount of time. Either
way. June nineteenth, nineteen seventy one,

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Susan Marie Lynch hitchhiking from Santa Cruz
to home in Nevada City. So

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this reminds me Jack coming back home
right, So he's on his way out.

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We have the Texas murders and back
into California, passing back through the

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Santa Cruz or San Jose area on
his way back to the Sacramento area.

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Either way, it says she lives
near Placerville area. It is on the

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murder map for bets. It's possible
as Zodiac is heading heads back to DC

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at some point. But Susan Lynch
Susan Marie Lynch twenty two was discovered murder

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on July thirty first, nineteen seventy
one, found buried alive in sand by

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bottle Hunters near East Levee Road,
one half mile north of Del Paso Road

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and point six miles southwest of the
dump side of Carol Beth Gilburn. So

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now we have another body in the
same area or in a general area being

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dumped. Carol twenty two, was
last seen at Lloyd Hickey's forty Grand Club

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at eighteen nineteen Del Paso Boulevard and
Sacramento and found later that day on Saturday,

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November fourteenth, nineteen seventy. Wow, that just jumped back a year.

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That seems a little wrong. That
should have said November fourth, nineteen

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seventy one, battered and naked,
only thirty feet south of West Ascott Avenue

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and West fourth Street near Riorlinda.
Jack does eventually live in Riolinda as well.

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It says, so is that Lloyd
Hcky's place? Is that still around

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with a different name. I have
no idea this is. I would have

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to look it up. My brother
gives dance last Deseri. Oh, I

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don't know. I didn't actually look
it up because I always take for granted

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that most of these businesses are out
by the time I'm you know, talking

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about this some twenty four years later. Yeah, Lloyd he died and he

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was a local country music legend with
different clubs, and he had hosted a

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jamboree on television on Sundays too.
Huh. Well, really big club.

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Well that takes me back to the
Black Dollia stuff where Yeah, where Spangler

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had gone missing from the club that
that was hosting the most beautiful world girls

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around the world on stage, sixty
beautiful girls. And literally they had indicated

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that the post or I'm sorry,
the postcard, one of the postcards that

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was written in the black Doll you
case was actually purchased at that club.

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So we may have another club and
high influential individual relation. Yeah, oss

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Cia, I'm noticing it's okay by
bottle hunters. There's quite a few of

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these cases, especially once I've done. People were, you know, unnamed

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individuals were looking for bottles and found
a number of the alleged victims and I'm

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finding out so many of them weren't
killed by Jack, but his crew knew

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everything about them, and it just
it's amazing. So he's linked. Let

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me let me finish off this slide
real quick. We did. We did

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find another individual who was found in
Fairfax, California. Estimated age range thirty

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five to forty five years. Yes
see, he was six foot seven inches,

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00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:41.359
estimated weigh one hundred and eighty pounds. Estimated circumstances of recovery. Subject

405
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.039
was found hanging from a tree.
Condition of remains were recognizable. Face.

406
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:51.799
Hair color was brown. Head hair
had hair description shoulder length, brown hair,

407
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.839
body hair description dark brown, chest
hair, facial hair description full beard.

408
00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:01.240
Accessories were a canteen near the body. Clothing a long white cotton robe

409
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:07.119
gown style that was ankle length and
on the body. Footwear white rubber Japanese

410
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.480
sandals on the body. This one, I believe was given to me by

411
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:14.559
moonlight, so it's an unidentified person, but happened to be found hanging by

412
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.039
rope, which we know was one
of the Zodiac's ms. He claimed in

413
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:22.960
the Halloween card, and that kind
of brings us back to the that's going

414
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:27.359
to bring us back to the DC
area and the Albany area, which we

415
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:30.119
know the Zodiac has written a letter
in regards to and a cipher stating he

416
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:34.960
was going to kill somebody there.
So I have included these murders. June

417
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:39.200
twenty ninth and nineteen seventy one,
Gloria South on Morris and Lark Street,

418
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:45.039
near Albany Medical Center and Albany Veterans
Hospital. The suspect thought to be known

419
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.640
to the police. The victim was
shot behind her left ear and on August

420
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:52.079
first, nineteen seventy three. There's
a letter that takes claim for this murder.

421
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.960
I'll have to go back and verify
that, but I believe that's what

422
00:32:55.000 --> 00:33:00.400
that letter was in regards to on
July first, nineteen seventy one, Brenda

423
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.039
Jones of I forty five. So
now we see again he's made it all

424
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:07.839
the way to one end, killed
on his way back, and only a

425
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.680
couple days between the two of these. This is what makes it possible,

426
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.079
is that we have this individual who
has gone missing and killed on June twenty

427
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:21.279
ninth, and by July first,
we're seeing another I forty five murder with

428
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:27.079
Brenda Jones and I forty five going
to Galvinston General Hospital, so again we

429
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:31.119
have this hospital connection. She was
fourteen years old, her slip was put

430
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:34.720
in her mouth, she was shot
in the head, and she was found

431
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.480
in Galveson Bay, five hundred yards
from Pelican Bridge and close to Sea Wolf

432
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:42.640
Parkway, again a waterway dump.
The body of the first known victim,

433
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:45.359
fourteen year old Brenda Jones, was
found not far from the Fields, which

434
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:50.319
is the Killing Fields in League City
on July second, nineteen seventy one.

435
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:54.279
She disappeared while walking to visit an
aunt in Galveston. Over the next six

436
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:58.640
years, the remains of eleven more
victims were found in the area. Another

437
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:02.279
spat of murders took place in the
nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties. So now

438
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:07.000
we can clearly see over here in
the Tim Miller letter that says, I

439
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:12.480
am I am not the only one
killing girls. Tim No Mexican, no

440
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:17.039
yellow. I'm gonna guess, says
Chinese. No, something ain't killed by

441
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:22.199
me. The very first kills in
the eighties series was some other guy too,

442
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:29.639
I am the one. What's that? Okay? Here we go here,

443
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:37.199
I can hear you. Okay,
Well, anyways, we do have

444
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:42.559
him. We do have him saying
it says understanding who is at fault is

445
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:47.079
key. It's her behind this monster
and me that makes me kill other Caucasian

446
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:52.480
girls with brown hair. Second in
the eighties series or the League City Fields,

447
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:58.199
So he's definitely coming upon the k
Jones was filmed. There's two Brenda

448
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:02.800
kay Jones, though, one the
the Negro lights that's on the list.

449
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:15.039
Shee and Galvivey. You're breaking up
really bad. So what you're saying is

450
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.519
there's two Brenda Jones that were killed. One was an African American and one

451
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:21.719
was Caucasian. I can only tell
you that based on this letter, we

452
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:23.800
know that he when he says he's
done something, we can take for granted

453
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:28.360
that he did. Uh and where
he did it at is probably a little

454
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.679
more subject to whether or not he
died. He didn't kill any of these

455
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:36.519
girls. We we even covered he
didn't kill any of them. I haven't

456
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.000
covered it. And I'm listening to
the letters of the Zodiah. Yeah,

457
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:44.199
we did in the in the nine
to eleven special, he had the whole

458
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.159
list of who he killed and who
he did. Okay, Okay, I'm

459
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:50.880
going based off what the letters say, and what your solve is is not

460
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:54.159
necessarily what I go by. I
go by the communications from the killer,

461
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:58.639
and so once we get to that
point and we make it down that road

462
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:00.679
to be able to prove that up, I can only say that right now

463
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:05.679
he is indicating that he is somebody
who is part of these killings. We

464
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.760
have Jack in the area the entire
time at every single one of these killings,

465
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:12.920
so there is a connection there,
and whether or not he's the actual

466
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.000
killer or not is negatable, because, like we said, there's a possibility

467
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:21.280
that Jack is just the author.
He's just the writer about the happenings,

468
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.719
not the actual killer. I've said
this a million times, right, you

469
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:29.440
know, but I'm just saying he's
taking credit for it in this particular letter

470
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:36.119
in two thousand and five. And
when did Abel die? Robert Abel Jackson's

471
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:39.840
he killed him in two thousand and
five, And Jack was in Texas in

472
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:45.599
two thousand and five. Yeah,
what he was dying in Texas? Eh?

473
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:50.079
I'm like, wait a minute,
what did you just say? Yeah,

474
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.119
Jack was in Texas in two thousand
and five when we were able to

475
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:57.840
establish that with Tim Miller. Dennis
Kaufman had actually gone back to Texas and

476
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:02.159
visited Jack's aunt with Miller into and
they were able to determine that Jack was

477
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:06.800
in fact in Texas and September two
thousand and five. So do we know

478
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:13.480
what month Abel died? I believe
it's September, September, hold on,

479
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:17.559
hold on, it's July. I
think it's July in two thousand and five.

480
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:21.639
I got it here. I got
to look it up, but I

481
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.280
don't want to read it right now. Yeah, but yeah, he was

482
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:28.000
there, He is definitely there.
All right, Welcome back to that because

483
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:30.079
I want to get into this letter
with you we have. It looks like

484
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:34.760
the Zodiac killer did not go silent
as I had thought after the Sigherra card.

485
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.840
I think he begins a new spree
and starts to connect them through future

486
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.599
communications. And this is where I
get the idea, not only from the

487
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:46.119
handwriting in the DC Freeway phantom case, but the connectivity of this particular letter

488
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:50.920
we're about to talk about now.
It says this wasn't the only communication to

489
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:54.320
refer to the murder of Kathy Bilic. You do you believe that Jack killed

490
00:37:54.480 --> 00:38:00.039
or Zodiac killed Kathy Bilic? Which
which one is the name? Kathy bilk

491
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:07.199
B I l e k Oh,
my god, No, I don't think

492
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:10.039
I got that one yet, so
I okay, but I need to work

493
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:15.159
on it. I'm going to cover
that in here. Uh. It's actually

494
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:20.519
her and another individual that was killed
in the San Jose area near Monticello in

495
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:24.000
the woods, but they actually convicted
I believe somebody else of these murders,

496
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:29.440
but these people are trying to connect
the Zodiac to these murders through this communication.

497
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:31.000
I'm going to show you a new
theory and how to look at this

498
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:36.639
communication in a different way, placing
it in the timeframe, so sometime in

499
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.760
nineteen seventy one, likely in early
May, and before the mailing of the

500
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:44.079
Monticello card. Another zodiac course,
I want to find out what the Monticello

501
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:49.519
card is. Do you have that, Harriet? Now, yes, I'm

502
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:54.360
it's somewhere's in my phone. Okay, I've seen it. Yes, I've

503
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:58.360
seen it. Okay, okay,
I would like to see it. And

504
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:02.679
another zodiac corresponding and cipher was received
by the San Francisco Chronicle postmark Fairfield,

505
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:07.320
California, running in tandem with what
you're saying about the last solve and Doris

506
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:12.400
being in Fairfield and working for DMV. I do it because I'd done it

507
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:16.079
twenty one times. I can't stop
because each that I kill makes it worse,

508
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:20.639
and I must kill more. Man
is the most prized game. I'll

509
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:24.199
nerver give my name because you don't
understand. Now, you guys just heard

510
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:29.480
me use the word understand in the
Tim Miller letter. Understand is going to

511
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:34.519
be a huge key factor in a
word that connects one communication to the next.

512
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:37.199
Next time, I will send a
patch of human skin if there is

513
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:43.039
some left over. The one hundred
and forty eight character cipher decoded two.

514
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.719
This is the Zodiac speaking, why
can't you stop me? I can't stop

515
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:50.280
killing, stop listening to the phonies. If this is not on the front

516
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.280
page in a week, I will
skin three little kids and make a suit

517
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:59.000
from the skin. Wow. Just
completely so. The wording in the letter,

518
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:01.360
I'll do it because I'd done it
twenty one times is consistent with a

519
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:07.400
mailing date sometime after the March thirteenth, nineteen seventy one Los Angeles correspondence from

520
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:13.679
Zodiac claiming seventeen plus victims. Using
this person's website, Using a simple calculation,

521
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.079
we can estimate how often the Zodiac
claimed the victim. From December twentieth

522
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:22.119
to nineteen sixty eight to July twenty
sixth, nineteen seventy, the Zodiac killer

523
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:25.360
claimed thirteen victims over five hundred and
eighty four days. This is one victim

524
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:30.239
every forty four point nine days.
Therefore the victim thirteen to twenty one.

525
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:36.239
Another eight victims were claimed add three
hundred and fifty nine days to July twenty

526
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.960
sixth, nineteen seventy, and we
arrive at July twentieth, nineteen seventy one,

527
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:44.880
approximately four months after the Los Angeles
letter. This letter in cipher appears

528
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:50.079
at first glance at dubious zodiac communication, but as zodiologists dot com pointed out,

529
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:53.719
how difficult would it be for a
hoaxer to mimic the ciphers or crosshairs

530
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:58.559
of the zodiac, The fact the
author failed to do this should be paused

531
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:01.280
for thought. There is also something
about this letter that indicates the author had

532
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:06.559
written another Zodiac communication, or the
author was the actual Bay Area murderer.

533
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:10.000
The other communication, also mailed to
the San Francisco Chronicle on July thirteenth,

534
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:15.360
nineteen seventy one, mirrored the one
forty eight character cipher and letter in one

535
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:20.599
crucial way, the victim total.
The last two widely accepted zodiac communications were

536
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:24.719
March thirteenth, nineteen seventy one Los
Angeles letter claiming seventeen plus victims and the

537
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:30.639
January twenty ninth, nineteen seventy four
exorcist letter claiming thirty seven victims. The

538
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:36.400
author of the above correspondents had nineteen
victims victim totals to choose from eighteen to

539
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:42.679
thirty six, yet he chose the
claiming of thirty seven victims. Oh I

540
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:46.840
just missed that somewhere anyways. Yet
he chose the total of twenty one,

541
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:51.880
exactly the same as the total mentioned
in the July thirteenth, nineteen seventy one

542
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:55.679
Monticello card, which featured in the
San Francisco Police Department DNA report under suspected

543
00:41:55.760 --> 00:42:00.559
Zodiac correspondence. Did the author of
the above correspondent just get lucky and by

544
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:06.519
randomly choosing twenty one victims and thereby
mirroring the Monticello card? Or was he

545
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:09.440
the author of both? I say
he was the author of both. So

546
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:14.440
this is guest to be mailed somewhere
between May and July of nineteen seventy one.

547
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:16.639
This is the letter we just read
about. I'd done it twenty one

548
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:22.159
times, and I just the letter
set from Fairfield right now. I want

549
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.760
to point out to everybody that he's
talking about skinning people. You guys.

550
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:37.320
I have literally laid out the four
page recipes skinny and that's oh my god,

551
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:40.400
this is jack. Where's that for
Gaikowski? How many people of or

552
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:46.440
how many animals is Gaikowski skinned or
killed? He skinned some Polish bears somewhere

553
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:52.800
in Russia. I bet you that's
going to come out as a news article

554
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:59.639
next, so the twenty one Times
letter and the patch of human skin is

555
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:04.400
just write up Jack's alley. We
also saw things like the doodles of the

556
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:07.920
word over is he doodles and drags
the pen down. We saw this in

557
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:14.480
the Annihilating letter, where I believe
it was removed by grace, dripping pin

558
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:19.639
drip, drip drip, the bleeding
Knife letters, the gall and Sharp letter

559
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:23.639
like it is definitely the zodiac all
day long. So doodles, drippings,

560
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:28.639
drawings and scrawlings we know or something
that he likes to do. The word

561
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.440
understand we talked about was used in
the Dear draft Board letters and then the

562
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:36.639
Tim Miller and and a few other
letters. The more reference has been used

563
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:40.239
since the Lipstick killings on and the
next theme has been used also since day

564
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:46.760
one. So that brings us to
your solve. Why did I Yeah,

565
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:52.320
okay, that brings us to your
solve. Which that's just showing the work

566
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:58.719
it was with no with no power
that time. So oh yeah, all

567
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:04.639
right, okay, So your cipher
came out to say if you can read

568
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:07.199
that for us, I have it
on the screen if you can see it.

569
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:10.519
Yeah, it says it came out
after I did the cipher. It

570
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:16.039
came out as an anagramming. Of
course, afterwards, Michael Payne's missus Ruth

571
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:27.039
sold Dallas the Rambler to Faraday father
the I e's for thereafter it's in Latin,

572
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:31.880
I'm murderer Betty Lou and the Lake
Kerman Road kids. Let me let

573
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:37.519
me smeet on my phone, because
you read it a little bit more better.

574
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:42.760
Well, he's he's admitting that he's
feeling guilty for what happened. That

575
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:50.159
he was to go get these two
kids who were in the Rambler, the

576
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:57.000
JFK Rambler, the c I A. Michael and Ruth Payne that moved here?

577
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:05.719
What was that? And didn't she
what wasn't she red Harvey Ogwald's landlord.

578
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:08.679
Yeah, see so she moved.
She moved. She's the one that

579
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:13.920
got in the job of the stupid
depositor. Yeah, she moved to Santa

580
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:16.760
Rosa. And that this is saying
that she sold the card to the pains

581
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:22.880
the Rambler, and so there's evidence
in there. So he's he's feeling guilty

582
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.280
that he's the murderer, that he
killed them on Lake Kerman Road in the

583
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:31.079
Venetia area interesting, So that's where
you also, this is also where in

584
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:37.719
the actual letter itself you got the
cias ugly DMV doors see me leave with

585
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:42.000
west Lake Herman Road. So he
is literally in both of these messages you're

586
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.880
finding something that is referencing Lake Herman
Road and the rambler that they were in

587
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:51.639
right, all right, Well,
and then that brings us to the Monticello

588
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:53.760
card, which I haven't seen,
but the mono Cello card was mailed on

589
00:45:53.840 --> 00:46:01.719
July thirteenth, nineteen seventy one,
stating near Manticello shot sho ught victims twenty

590
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:07.119
one in the Woods Dies April.
This is as much as I've gotten on

591
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:08.800
it. And what I want to
remind you is that while they're ooh,

592
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:14.480
while they are trying to claim that
it is the Kathy Blick murder or the

593
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:20.039
murder of two teenagers in the woods
near Monticello in California, I actually believe

594
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:22.800
that. Oh. Let's start with
the fact that in the Woods Dies April,

595
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:28.880
the DC Freeway Phantom murders, not
only were they shot, but they

596
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:35.880
were the murders ensued and began in
April of nineteen seventy one. Look at

597
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:44.000
that connection in the Woods Dies April. Let's see, now this is my

598
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:49.360
take on it. When I'm using
the shot. Shot is also a very

599
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:55.039
good cross connection the sho ughd to
the sought victim twenty twelve. So the

600
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:59.559
two in the one is just transposed. But the sought and shot the way

601
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:05.639
he spelled are similar in again connecting
those correspondences. When I got into looking

602
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.239
at the map to see where everything
was, this is the happenstances of the

603
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:14.280
murders that are occurring in Albany,
New York, and in the Baltimore or

604
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:19.440
the Maryland and Washington DC area.
Of course, these are also crossover jurisdiction

605
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.840
murders between Maryland and Washington, d
C. And is happening around at air

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Force base. Here's the Joint Andrews
Air Force Base, and we have all

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00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.880
of this stuff that's going on over
here. And then lo and behold,

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I find Monticello. So the letter
claiming twenty one victims, it is accepted

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as a possible Zodiac communication. Here, I'd like to address this very mysterious

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letter that is alluding to twenty one
victims in the Woods Dies April. It's

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cutouts, just as the twelve victims
sought postcard. Is it is words cut

612
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.840
and pasted on a picture, just
like the Sierra Club pasted on the picture

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of Tory Pines. I need to
check that one out and see why I

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00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.199
had Tory Pines in there. But
my research, which of near Montaicello,

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00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:07.000
comes only to one political reference of
President Thomas Jefferson's property near the latest murders

616
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.079
in Albany, New York in Maryland
d C. Albany, New York is

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eight hours from Mantaicelo, but Maryland
and d C murders are minutes away.

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00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:19.760
So near Manaicello, as he stated, And it began in April, which

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00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:27.599
these murders in the DC Freeway phantom
case start in April. So and I

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don't know why this letter has been
kept from us, but if you have

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it, I'd love to see it, Harriet. And so, yeah,

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00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:35.519
Thomas Jefferson's vote is called mana Celo
in the state of Virginia, where the

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00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:39.519
FBI and Quantico are located. He
got a lot of cult stuff going on

624
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:45.960
there. Oh my god, the
guy who founded I've only got I've only

625
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:51.320
got one keep going, I've only
got well, i've only got one minute

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00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:54.760
left. We're going to be hopping
into some additional murders that are occurring over

627
00:48:54.840 --> 00:49:00.199
there in that area at that in
July, and again I think that if

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Jack doesn't meet Nora until August to
seventy one, there may be a possibility

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that that more sets the precedence or
timeframe where we can actually start to place

630
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Jack in a particular spot. But
during seventy and seventy one, I literally

631
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:21.119
have no clue where he is established
or living. But we are also going

632
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:23.280
to see justin a couple months now
that he's in Kansas City, Kansas,

633
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:28.239
which places him on the other side
of the United States where he could viably

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00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:31.079
be doing exactly what I say he's
doing. But that's not only half for

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00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:37.599
today. Anybody have any last minute
comments. I'm saying hello to Megan Walsh.

636
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:43.039
I believe she's watching Dakota. Did
that thing? Were her? And

637
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all these new followers? So love
everybody, everybody, have a wonderful weekend.

638
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:52.079
You guys, take care and we'll
see you next Friday. Bye for

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now, go jefs beca