DB Cooper and Zodiac Coincidences? Part 6

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True seekers and true crime junkies.
Welcome back to another episode of Hit the

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Roadjack Finding the Zodiac. We have
dB Cooper episode that we are continuing with

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today and a soul that has been
done by somebody else on the internet.

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I want to first at least welcome
to the show. Terry Batcher, Hello,

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good morning, Good morning, And
Nolan del Campo, Good morning everyone.

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Good morning. I feel like you
have my same chair. Do you

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have my same chair, Nolan?
I do. I just bought it about

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a week ago. Yeah, I
love awesome, Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

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I got it for a half off. I did. I got it

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for like one hundred and nineteen bucks. I thought I would never appreciate anything

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that was gaming because I'm not a
video game player, but this is a

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video gaming chair. I love it. I'm like, these people have this

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stuff on lock. Why didn't we
know about this? Is so happy.

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I don't even know how to explain
my last year. I think, yeah,

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I think my last year I had
for about, I don't know,

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fifteen twenty years. So when you
sat on it, it was like you

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were just sitting on cardboard and hardwood. There was no cushion left in it.

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And I didn't know how good my
buck could feel until I got this

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chair. Now I love my office. It says Emerge Emerge. It's a

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video gaming chair, and of course
the arms flip up so you can actually

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get underneath your desk. Most of
your chairs with arms, you can't slide

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your chair in under the desk because
the arms are in the way. So

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those flip up, and then of
course it reclines like you saw us rocking

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away. I love you, and
let's see. I'm not sure if Harriet

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is here with us yet or not, but if she is, I would

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welcome her to the show when she
comes in. Oh I'm here, I'm

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here, yay, good morning.
He said something in a blurb, and

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I said, whatever you said,
just patch me through, hit me into

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the show asap, please, all
right, well go ahead. Sorry,

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Oh no, I was just laughing
when he said whatever he said to me,

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and I said, just as long
as I'm in, Okay, you're

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in. I think he said basically, don't speak now, you're not going

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to be unmuted, so, you
know, just something like that. I

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don't know, but anyways, yeah, I'm in either way, yeah,

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okay. So I actually was contacted
by a podcast viewer, somebody who's been

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watching the show. Obviously he has
an adoration for Tom Boyd like I do.

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Oh, so he sent me this
super long article that this journalist had

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written in regards to Tom Voight,
and of course, as I read through

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it, it's like, wow,
everything that's in this article is what I

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have said on my show. So
I'm glad somebody's finally jumped on board.

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But I think that it was literally
like Butterfield or somebody like that, you

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know, is basically calling out Tom
voy and it's that Zoo crew over there

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on the other side. There's still
a Zoo crew themselves. Either way.

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I told him, I said,
I really appreciate the article. I feel

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most of it is true, and
I've probably spoken every single one of those

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words on my show, so to
follow that up, he had indicated that

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he had written a poem for Cecilia
Shepherd, and I asked him to forward

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it on and he did, which
I thought was actually a beautiful poem.

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He said it is published on the
internet, so he did give me permission

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to read it on the show.
Tony wrote this poem and it's titled Cecilia.

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It says, calm water on a
sunny day, deeply tranquil in every

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way, beneath and oak beside a
lake, a psalm of eternal heartache.

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A black hood was his disguise.
Sunglasses hid his heinous eyes. Nothing can

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forge set sadness as a man's plunge
into madness. A massive years have passed

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away. I bowed your grave today
and say a poet's song for someone so

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brave, and lay pink camellias on
your grave. Oh that was Sweethe well,

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I can tell you that I know
that Jack is feeling quite guilty in

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the seventies and eighties. So but
you know that this isn't This isn't about

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Jack. I think this isn't about
this is about Jack. This is the

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same poem, but this is a
poem Tony wrote this has nothing to do

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with Jack. Yeah, and I'm
just agreeing that that's the same sentiment that

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they something's going on there. But
it is a beautiful ending, you know,

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it is a beautiful It's a beautiful
poem. He was told that he

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couldn't possibly come up with a poem. What's that? Sad? Sad?

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But yeah, definitely sad but beautiful. Yeah, but he was told that

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he couldn't possibly come up with a
good poem in regards to the Zodiac and

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Cecilia. And in fact he did, and so I was proud to share.

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It was very moving. Last week
we left off on the page of

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the dB Cooper solve that is on
the internet in regards to the Playboy magazine

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cutouts and the letter am Alive and
doing well in hometown po the system that

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beats the System, dB Cooper.
The page that we left off on was

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where the L and the I and
Alive was pulled from, which is a

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page that literally alludes to a mannequin
head, a faceless mannequin head, a

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wig and it looks like some other
products that are around them. Now,

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this guy actually said that these cutouts
come from an article that shows a faceless

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mannequin with a two payer wig.
It wasn't clear that the time if the

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FBI publicized sketch was correct, And
there are theories the hijacker wore two pay.

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Huh, let's address that. Let's
not talk about theories, guys.

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I mean, I think that this
means he was literally wearing a disguise,

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doesn't necessarily allude to a two pay
at all, And there shouldn't be theories

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unless somebody specifically said the man was
wearing a two pay, because in most

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cases, you can tell a two
pay all day long from real hair,

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right m m, yeah, I
mean how many of us have seen them?

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You know, you see a two
pay, the first thing you're doing

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is pointing in giggling to your friend
as his ears flopping in the wind.

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You know, especially in the nineteen
seventies, those two pays stood out.

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Yeah. They were ridiculous fake and
you can spot them a mile away.

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Yeah. I remember how many of
the old TV shows that that they would

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be doing the seventies, So yeah, they stand out. So so basically,

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my thought and concept here is that
the FBI profile that they showed showed

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that the hair was combed back,
much like you see in the composite for

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the Zodiac Killer. If this individual
was wearing a two pay and then slicked

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it back like that, you would
absolutely see the line of the two pay

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and somebody would have stated or said
something in regards to his hair having been

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fake. The gal did say that
the hair was shiny, like it had

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been dyed, so that leads me
to Jack wearing the black hair or dying

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his hair black during the seventies the
early seventies. So either way, I

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think that the faceless inference may just
mean that he again is a phantom,

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or that he wore disguise as the
Zodiac claimed to be in his first during

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his escapades. This also confirms the
first letter from dB Cooper that he said

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the FBI's composite was not indicative of
what he really looked like. Couple this

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with the shiny look of the hair
that could be dyed or even I said,

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or even a wig. But I
highly doubt that he was wearing a

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wig. Anybody else have anything.
Stewardis says that the the the description of

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the guy was completely bogus. That
was one of the things I sent you

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today. It's a Wikipedia where they
said the composite of this guy wasn't at

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all even close to what the guy
looked like, right, fake exactly.

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Yeah, And that's what we're really
trying to just bust out here and show

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everybody is that the public has been
being calmed about these crimes for way too

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long. That brings us to our
next slide, which is the d I

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N G in doing was pulled from
the dry Martinis was born one hundred years

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ago. Now, this guy that
did this saw said these cutouts come from

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an ad showing a Martini cocktail in
an hourglass. The author appears to be

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saying time has run out. The
hijacker drank bourbon and soda cocktail on the

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plane, not reported by the media
before the postmark on this letter. So

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I only have two statements here,
time reference right right, So this is

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this is nothing more than a zodiac
one on one to the watch, to

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the time, to the the inference
of time in general. We know that

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he didn't drink a martini on the
plane. We know that he drank a

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bourbon, So I would have to
go to the latter side of the time

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reference versus the alcohol reference. What
do you guys think that the time reference

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absolutely. The time reference is the
zodiac one on one. Absolutely, I

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got I got many of just be
really quick. Many of these decoded missives.

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You'll even see that he's somehow the
rearranging the numbers put in the date

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and the time that the message was
sent. So he's trying a very important

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Yeah, it's all there, right, yeah. So the next one,

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the next one that comes about is
the O in doing is take it.

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It's actually post sideways. So now
we see more zodiac one oh one where

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he's flipping his letters. Right.
Harriet's known about this for a while.

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He transposes him backwards, he puts
them upside down, he puts some sideways.

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And if you use these different solves
that Harriet has discovered, sometimes it's

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about flipping that image or that symbol
correct exactly. The O could be the

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shape. O could mean many things. It could be a zero, but

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it could also be O for location. He's a master at this. I'm

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just a breaker. So yeah,
well so well, this author says that

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note this cutout comes from a Joan
Bias article. FBI suspects the hijacker has

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some military training. Many military became
anti war after Vietnam and Korea does anybody

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know anything about Joan Bias. I
believe Yeah, she was singer, folk

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singers. She was Dylan's girlfriend for
a while. Oh, oh my god,

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Dylan. What is it called dylan
agraphy his garbology Dylan? Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yes, what
was that Nolan? She performed at Woodstock

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too. Oh she's a singer,
yeah, singer, yeah, oh,

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I see it. She's a folk
singer, a very nice voice, very

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nice, a candid conservation. I'm
trying to read it with the dedicated anti

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war something and folk singer. So
okay, so anti war folk singer Joan

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as. I just thought maybe this
was just to dissuade about the agenda,

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because we have the dear Draft Board
letters that talked about being in the military

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during that time frame in nineteen sixty
eight, which also leads back to Vietnam.

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I think that he's constantly or you've
even actually decoded some of these missives

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Hariat, that indicate that he talks
about somebody who was in Vietnam, right,

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Tran or Tam Yeah, definitely in
Vietnam, which was definitely his son

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then, right. So yeah,
So I'm amazed at how this is done.

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And well, we know that Jack, He was in the Jack was

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in a couple of wars. He
was even involved in the Korean He was

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in the military during the Korean War, and he definitely had military knowledge.

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So I think that the author of
this particular solve probably nailed it in regards

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to the military training. So when
they try to bifurcate it, like we

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are see in twenty twenty and on, and they're trying to claim that there

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was no military connection to these cases, we know that they're automatically trying to

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bifurcate or separate the true information about
these cases to remove the aspect of military

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and politics. Yes, hold on, Harriet, Harriet, Harriet, hold

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on, go ahead, Terry.
How about the idea that he was doing

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Joan Baez in the prom position,
Oh John, what did you say?

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What about that? All right?
No, no, no, no,

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no, I don't need you to
I don't need I'll put in the position

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I said. I don't need you
to repeat it. We don't. We

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don't talk about that. That's just
inappropriate. Sorry, sure it is inappropriate.

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Making sexual references on my show is
inappropriate. Terry's doing dead, you

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know, not sexual, but dead. Maybe I don't know. I'm just

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idea. It's attached to the word
doing. Okay, that's all I'm saying.

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You lose me when we go there. I don't know you lose what's

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a guy? Think? That's a
guy think that you know? All right?

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So the W in the word well
from the communication is found on the

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page called bow Brummel and it is
in regards to clip on bow ties.

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Now we know there's a huge tie
reference. This codebreaker says the hijacker wore

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a clip on tie. The article
references clip on bow tie. There were

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no media reports of a clip on
tie before this letter was postmarked. If

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you don't wear a long tie,
you probably wear a bow tie. And

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I know that Terry has things to
say about the tie, lots of things.

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You want to go into an am
right now. You want to continue

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with it tie. It was said
to have had over two hundred highly specialized

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particles on it. That's big.
I mean how you'd have to have quite

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an imagination to get two hundred separate
highly specialized particles on it, or be

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involved with someplace that had all of
those materials available. One of the things

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I said to you was was about
in the Wikipedia one that I sent to

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you today. They point out the
name Tectronic and one of their was it

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tel Adine or something like that.
I forgot. The other as being that

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that was referenced by the dB Cooper
caper. In other words, that's in

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the public domain. I mean,
that's with the Wikipedia thing. But yeah,

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the boat, the tie, the
clip on tie, not a bow

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tie, but the clip on tie
had a lot of highly specialized particles on

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it. And I think that's a
massive statement. You know. All this

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is so when I was saying,
you remember that going back the last thing

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we were talking about one of the
persons threatened down there on the Bibi Cooper

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caper who says I'll do that guy, I'm when I'm saying he's doing somebody,

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he's talking about doing him in Well, did did Joan Bias die?

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Was she murdered? No? No, I'm just saying that he's saying he's

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you know, I'm saying, is
he saying he's doing her or threatening to

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do her like he did on the
guy that's the picture of the guy that's

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sending the Black Dolly a document,
wheres I'll be that guy too? And

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had to take I think he is
Jack style means he's probably doing him in

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okay, And I think that I
kind of go back to the whole soul

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that Harriet has had, where the
dear draft Board letter indicates that he has

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been compromised by whatever program he's in. His brain has been hijacked, he's

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been drug he's been used, all
of these things that like literally lead back

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to the hatred he has for the
military because it's likely that he became part

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of MK culture in the military because
he was in the military when this stuff

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started. One more thing about that, when we get up to the o

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CC case, you're going to find
that the guy was described and he was

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seen, but they don't like to
talk. That isn't talked about. But

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as a guy that was talking to
himself a lot, Well, I'm not

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gonna I'm not gonna focus on there
yet because I really, I really need

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to stay in dB zoo. What
you're saying about his mind, that's what

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I'm I know. But we can
talk about the OCC case mind. When

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we get to the OCC case,
we need to stick his mind. What's

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it with the guy's mind? You
know what I mean? He's been compromised,

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his mind has been a by hugs
and hypnosis and programming and you name

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it. I don't. I can't
even pretend to understand what Jack might have

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gone through during the military in the
MK Ultra program, or what he had

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to do to train to get there. It all seems rather sadistic to me.

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Yeah. Yeah, he was a
programmed guy. He was a mind

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robotly you know. Right. So
now as it pertains to these specialized particles,

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we know that Jack worked for General
Electric Nuclear Power Plant in San Jose

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in nineteen sixty two and nineteen sixty
three, very close to this timeframe,

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in which case wearing a tie was
not out of the ordinary forum. I've

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seen him in dress clothes and ties. I wasn't able to determine whether or

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not his tie was a real tie
or a clip on tie. But Jack

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doesn't seem to me like a tie
tie tying fool, right. A clip

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on seems more up Jack sally right. I thought that the most important clip

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on tie particle was I believe it
was lathanium tantiling, which is a crystal.

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When heat falls upon it, it
changes its voltage, and it's used

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in infrared detection. I'm thinking that
there had this guy who'd have had this

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guy that jumped out of that plane
would have needed a would have really been

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handy if he had ground references.
He had infrared lanterns, if you will,

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big ones since nineteen fifty three.
So this country had that technology now,

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whether or not was shared in nineteen
seventy or not. It probably wasn't

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because I don't think that infrared detection
became a bigger thing until some years later.

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But I would say that the military
definitely had something like that. And

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we know Jack's late to military,
so he would have needed some way to

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find the right spot on the ground. And that would have been perfect for

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him. If he's flying over and
he can look out the window and say,

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oh, there's my smudge spots,
and he can jump right then and

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there he can hit his target right
on the money. Harriet wants to add

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something to this. Go ahead,
Harry, Oh definitely, you're right up

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the perfect valley there, my god. Okay, from above the satellites and

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whatever the high flying planes that were
flying above us, you know West Coast

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Norad they had, they must have
had a way to look down. And

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this is at night. You got
the infrared technology, the zoom lens was

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whatever they had, Yeah, so
they would be They were able to I'm

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believing it now. They were able
to see him falling out of the plane

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and jumping at you know whatever,
and making his his spot and landing at

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a certain area where he was supposed
to land. He had all that pre

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planned. Military wow, very very
much a military somebody else would have had

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access to this except for military,
government, CIA, NSA, FBI,

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all of these individuals. And of
course that leads us right into, you

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know, the knowledge that the individual
knew that the FBI was scouring Playboy magazines

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for criminal criminal activity. So it
all fits in now. Our next one

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is the E and L. One
of the l's in well come from a

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page that says, for people who
are not ashamed of having brains. We

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know that Jack was intelligent, We
know the Zodiac was intelligent. We know

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dB Cooper had to be intelligent,
if not intelligent. They had inside information

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and they had people to make sure
they did not get caught in the process

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of these crimes. In this particular
article, the solver or the coder says

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these cutouts come from an encyclopedia ad
about not being ashamed of brains. The

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hijacker appeared to be intelligent and well
educated. This brought me back to Jack

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and his need for his bookshelf,
which we can see here right behind him

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in one of his little famous Halloween
card poses. As I'd like to say,

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he looks like he's crazy. His
eyes just look completely out of control.

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And we see this bookshelf behind him
with all of the books on it,

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And so I know that I noticed
that in Jack's belongings there were various

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books in regards to astrology, the
zodiac symbols and meanings, like he had

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all kinds of different books in his
stuff. In that picture, he reminds

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me of Jack Torrance and the Shining
Jack. Yes, he's out of his

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mind. Yeah, considered the skeleton
card hint there with Jack hanging his arms

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like that, with the skeleton card
hanging his arms. You know what I'm

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saying, That's what I said,
is a direct this picture. This picture

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is a direct reference to that Halloween
card. Now this picture was taken Jack

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had just come back from next door
his neighbor's house and killed their dogs.

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So Dennis tells the story about Jack
being out of his mind and having just

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killed the neighbor's dogs. So this
is just it's insane and you can see

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it in his eyes, I said, right. So Jack loved to read,

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and his wall of his home looked
just like this, and he was

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very intelligent. Jack created the first
water waste removal system for nuclear waste at

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GE in nineteen sixty two, and
it was patented for one hundred and ten

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thousand dollars at that time. Do
not discount the intelligence of Jack, my

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mentor tried to when he tried to
dissuade me from getting involved in this case.

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All I knew at the time was
that Jack was a security guard for

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Hewlett Packard. What I didn't know
is he was a contract private security.

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After even receiving an attempt with an
assault with the deadly weapon charge going on

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probation for it, he was still
able to get this particular job at Hewlett

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Packard. My mentor thought that meant
that he was nothing more than a lowly

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security guard. But we're finding out
Jack is so much more than that.

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Oh yeah, yeah. Dane Caesar
was a security guard too, and he

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worked for Lockheed. Who's that the
guy that Dane Caesar, That's the guy

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that's accused of shooting Robert Kennedy.
Really he was a security guard. Yeah

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yeah, just a security guard contract
security for Hewlett Packard, one of the

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biggest computer companies back in nineteen eighty
three that existed contract Now in this next

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one, the letters in the HO
and E and home the too in town

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were found on an article that says
he's too good a trooper not to talk

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about our tire and too profession to
let us know his name. Zodiac Corner

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one. Yes, yes, yes, we have a mask. We have

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the Texas reference to a tech I
mean cowboy hat always takes people back to

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Texas. Right, Texas is a
reference to where Jack came from. We

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have the masked man that brings me
back to Texarkana Phantom, you know the

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hood in Zodiac Killer. All of
this is another, I think clue into

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who this individual was and that he
was much more than somebody who just skyjacked

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plane. Right. The saw the
code solver on this says these cutouts show

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a masked man who isn't using his
real name from a Western state. The

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FBI doesn't think Dan Cooper is the
hijacker's real name, as shown on the

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plane ticket. He is suspected of
being from a Western state. Bingo,

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yes, yep, well yeah,
yeah, no Maneso. It means it's

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a protected name, but it means
you didn't see this name. You didn't

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see this person. You're not going
to find any data, nothing, It's

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nothing. Wow, Right, but
I'm seeing that a lot lately with Nono

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Jack, Nono Zodiac anyways. Right, So yeah, well, the EMIN

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home and the N in town came
from a page out of the Playboy book

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that said the ABCD FG of love. Now, the M and N came

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from the direct link to Magnavox.
And this article is showing radios, recording

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devices, TVs, tape recorders,
things of that nature, which we know

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Jack was in possession of all of
these things during that time. I'm not

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sure if he was pointing to the
ABC D e FG, but that almost

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sounded like he was referencing some of
his cryptics, ciphers and things like that.

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At the same time, we know
that Jack was into TV repair and

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ham radio and all kinds of stuff
back at this time. This guy says

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these cutouts come from an ad about
letters. Every letter stands for a gift

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you would be proud to give.
Appears the author is saying the cutouts within

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the letter have meanings related to the
ads and articles. What is your take

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on that, Harriet, You're hitting
so many things there. God, it's

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just a hint that you need to
anagram everything there, all this stuff that

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this person did. If I were
in an anagram and I would be telling

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a story. And he's trying to
tell you in another way to find a

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way to tell the true story.
And you know he's trying to he's trying

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to say, he's trying to get
a message across to people in the White

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House. That's my take. You
know, make sure that you got this

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story correct. Remember him, no
mineo, but this happened, and that

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happened, and and uh please,
you know, make sure you check the

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time, the date, the names
everything. And another thing I just wanted

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to say real quick. You brought
up about bro Bromo, bro Bromo,

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and then we're bringing up about the
music industry. You know you got Joan

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Baez, of course, Woodstock with
what's your name? Definitely Dennis beau Bremmel

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so b O W. Bau Brummel
is in reference to the ties. Well,

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that's what I'm saying. There was
both stones really and the Brotherstones they

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had. They were the same generre
of rock of uh you know, Janice

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Joplin, Joan Baez, all of
that. So and the little laugh laugh

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laugh. I thought, I die, it seems so funny to me.

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Uh wow, okay that that song
it's very soon, I guess, yeah,

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name that in a while. Yeah, so yeah, laugh laugh.

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I thought I'd die. It seems
so funny to me that stuff you see

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in Jack's the X stuff he's taunting
people laugh laugh laugh. I thought you

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got me, so wow. I
mean, is there another hint there?

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But you also pointed out a reference
that he is in he does. I'm

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saying that I'm finding a lot of
his documents he's making references to music,

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as we'll see in the future alive
it quite often. So yeah, it's

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a good fine. So the system
that means the system when you still have

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one for that yet right, well, yep, we haven't gotten to that

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one yet. Now. The next
w in the word town was taken from

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a page out of the Playboy book
that was on du Wars Profiles introducing d

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Wars Bourbon. So it's the author
of this says at least one suspect in

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the case was a professor and lawyer, So I don't know why he's pointing

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to a suspect who might have been
a professor or a lawyer, but would

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also fit with the well educated profile. Yes it would. I also look

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at this overcoat as kind of CIA
ish, right, like the the nomenclature

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of the CIA or a spy is
that long drench coat. We also have

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a covered up face in this particular
article, and I don't know if that

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was blacked out by the person who
did this because they didn't want that to

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be shown, or why they even
necessarily alluded to an attorney or a professor

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by any means, when simply to
me, this is talking about bourbon,

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and bourbon was the drink that the
culprit asked for on the plane, So

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possibly not an attorney or lawyer reference
at all, just really base giving more

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information that only the FBI or the
police would know in regards to what the

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suspect did on that plane. Right, all right? But then well I

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just oh sorry, I just wanted
to quickly add that description of the figurine.

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I mean, the person in the
cloakinbagger and someone's that's the original supposed

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to be the original figurehead concept for
uh, the between the OSS and the

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CIA. There's something somebody posted about
that if I found it on Twitter,

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But that was supposed to be the
original figurehead for the CIA, the representation

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of the CIA. Ah, well, and that's what that's what from my

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mind goes. I think of inspector
gadget, I think of the CIA when

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I think of long trench coats or
the other option for a long trench coat

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for me is a pervert. Yeah, right, by stuff I said pervert.

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I did not allude to anybody doing
somebody, please and thank you,

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please, please and thank you.
But I'm just talking about an overcoat and

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why individuals were known to wear them
somewhere somewhere, especially in a hot day

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in San Francisco. If you always
knew, my mother would say, don't

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look over there, kids now.
The O and PO for Portland Oregan came

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from the front page of the July
nineteen seventy issue of Playboy, And what

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we find in this particular image is
a girl upside down in water. She

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doesn't really quite look live. It
almost gives me that impression of drowned eyes

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open upside down. He actually,
I guess it says. The picture of

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the girl on the cover is upside
down. The letter OH is turned upside

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down on the dB Cooper letters,
So now we have a changing and rotating

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of the actual letters again, and
not many people knew this at the time

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of the Playboy magazine released. So
literally, the OH that's taken from this

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just and being turned upside down really
kind of takes me back to don alas

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upside down and around in the snow. Mm hmm. Yeah. We know

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that the Zodiac killer had started to
dump victims in or around water and waterways

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like canals, culverts, aqueducts rivers, lakes and storm drains. Or washing

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of the bodies is seen in many
of the cases, probably to destroy evidence.

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This woman could appear dead to this
killer and remind him of his deeds.

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Upside Down letters are indicative of Zodiac
communications and if the public hadn't seen

406
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:37.639
this yet, it means more inside
information the hijacker had ah and that brings

407
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:44.519
us to the system that beats the
system in this particular solve this individual says.

408
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.639
The meaning is self descriptive regarding hijacking
a plane the way he did,

409
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:53.960
and folk hero type article was published
with wide exposure before this letter was postmarked.

410
00:34:54.000 --> 00:35:00.519
Excerpt from a sociology professor. Sorry, guys, I'm still getting over

411
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:06.119
this cold. It says his was
an awesome feat in the battle of man

412
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:10.519
against the machine, one individual overcoming
for the time being anyway, technology,

413
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:16.000
the corporation, the establishment, the
system. Now, I recently was watching

414
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:21.679
something in regards to an African American
woman who was fighting the system to get

415
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.440
herself into Congress, and one of
the statements that she made in the movie

416
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:30.159
was the system that beat the system, so literally overcoming the government and their

417
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:37.760
system was her goal to get herself
as the first African American female into Congress,

418
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:42.360
which she absolutely achieved. So this
would be Zodiac Killer's ultimate taunt,

419
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.320
as he wanted everyone to know he
could beat anyone, and eventually this did

420
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:50.760
include the CIA. So I think
for some time that his deeds were looking

421
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:57.079
to outsmart the FBI and law enforcement
because of that infighting between the FBI and

422
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.679
the CIA. And I think that
based on a hair solved where he's eventually

423
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:05.119
not getting paid for his deeds and
he's streaming and he's yelling that he's all

424
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:07.199
messed up from what they've done to
him, and he's still not getting paid.

425
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:14.039
That this would literally to somebody like
Jack be him that being the system

426
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:17.280
that beats the system. So in
nineteen seventy two, this was a way

427
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:22.079
to say that we can beat the
government and the likes confirmation of the Zodiac

428
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:24.360
taking his payment that the government failed
to give him for his deeds was kind

429
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:30.880
of what I thought. The reference
to beating the system is so true if

430
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.960
you believe that this is a CIA
job done to embarrass the FBI, who

431
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:38.840
has received more funding from the government
while CIA programs were cut as such as

432
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:43.239
the MK Ultra and others. And
I know that you have a lot to

433
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:49.480
say on this one, Harriet,
the system that beats the system, I'm

434
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.239
looking forward in my book, but
I don't seem to have it here.

435
00:36:53.360 --> 00:37:00.039
So do you have the solve there
or I know there was a lot that

436
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:07.760
ended up saying something. Yeah,
that's like my and he's he's he's definitely

437
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:12.599
saying something. I think he's saying
something about the PA system. Uh.

438
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:20.199
For Jennie Jumplin, that would be
I thought we had already covered this solve,

439
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.400
but maybe we haven't. Maybe it's
at the end of this, but

440
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:23.960
I think the next solve that we're
coming up to is going to be the

441
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:30.360
next the Revolution letter. I think
we've already all right, Terry B.

442
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:35.239
What was that? I'm just going
to simply say that, you guys,

443
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:39.119
I've got corrected by Bruce A.
Smith a little bit. A few times.

444
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:43.480
I've talked to him, and he
says, you guys should always remember

445
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:49.719
to mention the N S A as
well, right as you do yourselves something

446
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:52.559
about N S A because that's they're
big and powerful too and ugly and have

447
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:57.760
all the telephone calls monitored and all
that stuff. So oh o S S

448
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:01.000
N S A C I A F
B I all all of the progress is

449
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:08.119
outdated, outdated terms. Now go
ahead, Nolan. Do we know what

450
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:16.679
brand? Do we know what brand
that stereo system is advertising there? Sylvania?

451
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:23.639
Yeah? Okay, well, and
it is referencing a radio, a

452
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:30.599
record player and speakers. Yeah,
it's a Sylvania record player. And it

453
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:35.280
looks like a more modernized one because
we have buttons instead of levers. So

454
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:39.559
and it looks like you can even
control sco another record player together, right

455
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:45.360
right, and the eight track too. It looks like it's got a flock

456
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:50.519
for an eight track on the right
outside I feel like that's a little small

457
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:53.599
for an eight track. But I
mean, if I was just like,

458
00:38:55.079 --> 00:39:00.320
because eight tracks were fairly large,
they're large. Yeah, I thought anything

459
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:01.960
in that right hand slotted. I
can't tell the little of this picture.

460
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:07.719
Did they have a track? Yeah, I feel like it's too small,

461
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:13.159
like maybe it's maybe it's some type
of a stick out far either though.

462
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.719
No, but I was just talking
about the width and the the comparison of

463
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:22.960
the size of that notch or hole
in reference to the overall size of how

464
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:25.440
big this record player might have been. It just seems a little small for

465
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:30.800
it, and especially when you when
you're looking at the buttons next to it,

466
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:36.159
those buttons you know, were only
about ya big, and it looks

467
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:38.480
like you could probably put about five
of them together. I feel like it's

468
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:42.559
a bit small, but it could
be, and it could be a smaller

469
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:50.440
version of the eight track that he
knows definitely precossessed time frame a track.

470
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:57.679
Now, this brings me to one
of my my more interesting pages, because

471
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:01.559
I think this is where the decoder
of this butarticular solved was a little bit

472
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:08.239
off. He says that the D
and dB comes from the page that this

473
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:14.039
is the This is the only non
cover page cutout letter from June nineteen seventy

474
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:19.519
issue. Appeared important for the author
to have a lighter ad included. The

475
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:23.079
hijacker used matches on the plane.
This fact was not reported before this letter

476
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:27.639
was postmark. If you don't use
matches, you probably use a lighter.

477
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:30.400
Kind of a bit of a reach, at least for me, if he's,

478
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:35.880
you know, putting together a utane
lighter when that isn't indicative of what

479
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.480
the suspect used. But what I
noticed was in the top left hand corner

480
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:47.039
the words career killers. Now that
brings me back to what Jack really was.

481
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:51.960
I'm sorry, you guys, go
ahead. I hired guns, A

482
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.519
hired gun. Yeah, you're talking
about lighting, sending something out fire and

483
00:40:55.559 --> 00:41:00.360
you've got to buy fire. Threat
by if by gun, I wrote,

484
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:04.159
he got one of his threats.
And from that page, well, and

485
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:08.760
it's taken out of the word medico, which was a refillable buttane lighter back

486
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.639
at the time. But I couldn't
help but noticing that right next to it

487
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:17.519
is a complete article on career killers. And it made me think of something

488
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:23.199
that Jack had written to his mom's
husband or significant other at the time.

489
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:29.400
At one point in time, Jack
wrote on an envelope, and he mailed

490
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:34.320
the envelope and probably the contents in
it inside back to Red, and Red

491
00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:37.760
was somebody who was dating his mother
or married to his mother. I'm not

492
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:43.800
sure how that one rolled out,
but he said, read, I,

493
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:49.000
what is that? Uh, I
guess you're right? That is. I

494
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:55.199
guess I'm going to have to go
down there and fly a red flag literally

495
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:59.760
meaning to most people, if you're
gonna fly someone as a flag, you've

496
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:05.079
cut You've killed him and hung him
on a pole. So basically he has

497
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.800
set the form for whatever it is
that he's upset about to him at one

498
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.760
point in time, and Red has
not done anything about it. So Jack

499
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.679
is still getting mail in regards to
it, and he's saying, I'm going

500
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:15.880
to have to go down there and
do something to you if you don't take

501
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.800
care of this. But it was
an interesting statement. I don't think that

502
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.880
I would ever say to anybody I
knew or loved, or friend or family

503
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.000
or otherwise that I was going to
fly them like a flag. Is that?

504
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:32.440
Isn't that a killer reference? Like
a killing reference? It's definitely what's

505
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:42.320
the proper word here. It's definitely
showing some yeah that he's not happy with.

506
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:49.840
Whoever read is it might be Ronald
Reagan. I see everything is as

507
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:54.840
an anagram and anything with and an
L and everything. This is a This

508
00:42:54.920 --> 00:43:00.920
is a letter that. This is
a letter that Jack wrote to his mother's

509
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:06.519
significant other. It has nothing to
do with Reagan. Nothing to come down.

510
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:12.199
He's complaining about somebody that would began
during that era. No, no,

511
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:16.440
Jack is not sending missives in a
communication too. I get what she's

512
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:22.639
saying, but yeah, but he's
not sending missives or hidden closer messages to

513
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:30.119
his mother's significant other when it's self
explanatory. He has sent information to Red.

514
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:31.760
Red has not done what he's supposed
to do with it, and Jack

515
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:35.800
is re sending this information to him
saying, don't make me come down there

516
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:38.920
and fly a red flag. So
I and nothing to do. I can't

517
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:44.199
even make a political reference in regards
to this, because he's specifically talking about

518
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:46.119
something Red should have done. And
of course I've cut off the rest of

519
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:50.880
the message so you can't see this. But this message was intended specifically for

520
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:53.159
Red to say, take care of
these forms. I've sent them to you

521
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:57.039
before you're not doing your job.
Don't make me have to come down there

522
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.599
and fly you like a flag.
Well, we don't know who it was,

523
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:06.199
right, Red was the significant other
of his mother. I don't know

524
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.280
if they were married. I don't
know if it was just a boyfriend.

525
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:15.760
But the message is basically in regards
to and read. He's also written letters

526
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.199
to read and Mom. So we've
seen these letters, so it must be

527
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:23.679
something that that's together with Mom.
So this article, while the creator attributes

528
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:28.159
to the use of matches, we
know Jack indeed smoked. But I noticed

529
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:31.000
that the top left hand corner where
the word career killers is printed, because

530
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:35.920
this is what I believe the Zodiac
killer. Jack was thus pointing back to

531
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:40.239
the saws by Harriet, leading us
right back to the career killer type idea

532
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:45.039
and concept, and maybe even giving
them a clue as to who he is

533
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:52.440
during the time of this actual crime. Well, now the next one is

534
00:44:52.480 --> 00:45:00.039
the Bee from DBI Cooper and it
comes from an article that says everything you

535
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.320
always wanted to know about television.
So again back to the media reference.

536
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.760
Just like you were saying, you
guys were saying earlier about the song references

537
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.880
and the bands and things like that, we keep getting this hit back to

538
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:20.400
television, little tiny B right,
And it says the B and dB Cooper

539
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.800
is incorrect. Plane ticket has the
name Dan Cooper. Media didn't report the

540
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:29.400
proper name at first, and dB
was used by all media. Author appears

541
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:32.559
to be saying he knows this to
be an error. Author highlights an otherwise

542
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:38.039
rather insignificant letter and it is because
it says, explained by Ben Maslink,

543
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:44.559
I don't know who that person possibly
is, probably connected in some way to

544
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:51.800
television our journalists. B. You
have to read that, Samo B.

545
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.840
Right. Yeah, no, it
just says explain yeah, And I can't

546
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:59.840
because most of these once you blow
him up, they're so terribly pixelated with

547
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.440
take me for ever. Actually,
I'll get you a copy of that there

548
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:07.199
on the net. I think every
page of every Playboy is on the net.

549
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:13.079
I don't know what are you saying
about yourself there, Terry B.

550
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:17.360
I don't want any play I don't
want any Playboy magazines. I'm just saying

551
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:24.079
that there are I've at times seen
copies of certain Playboys. There's collectors that

552
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:30.000
are looking for ones that are more
obscure. And well, the article,

553
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:37.039
every single page I don't want.
Yeah, I actually I've read a couple

554
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:40.719
of articles on Playboy, but not
for god thirty forty years. But that's

555
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:44.639
what does that mean about television?
I don't know. I have to read

556
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.280
that article. Yeah, I know
that this, along with the magnavox at

557
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:52.119
is screaming TV for some reason.
I believe that the players at the highest

558
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:58.800
level of media are involved with what's
going on things like Hurst Hollyweird. There's

559
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:02.280
definitely it. Almost. The theory
that comes to mind for me is that

560
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:07.000
all of this was created in order
to make money off of to sell newspapers

561
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.840
due to the horrificness of the stories, then to keep it a mystery so

562
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:15.280
they can continue to make movies and
more money off of it. People can

563
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:19.079
write books and sell books that are
untrue. As long as this doesn't come

564
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:22.480
to light and is never solved,
they can continue to make money off of

565
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:28.239
it. But Jack, definitely,
Jack definitely has extensive knowledge of electronics.

566
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:31.639
But maybe this is leaning towards the
syndicate and it's involvement with TV, movies

567
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:37.480
and newspaper news or newspapers. Yes, Sarah, you can probably type in

568
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:40.039
Ben masterlink and google him and find
out what he's all about it when he's

569
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:45.920
written right, sure, I think
the bottom word I see on there is

570
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:51.840
parody, so it's like I can't
read all the words either way. I've

571
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:55.320
seen it a clear copy of it, but not recently. Now this one

572
00:47:55.360 --> 00:48:00.840
I'm really confused about. And I
didn't have any notations but the sea e

573
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:04.360
r In Cooper. We're down to
one minute, you guys. We do

574
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.320
not have time to cover this slide. We will definitely have to come back

575
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.280
for this one at a later time. Is there anything that anybody wants to

576
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:17.519
say? Last minute? Oh?
Wow? Okay, what my clock is

577
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:24.440
off? No, that is not
the last That is not the last minute

578
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:28.320
word I thought you'd say, but
Jack would love the reference to time.

579
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:30.880
Thank you Nolan. All right,
you guys. Everybody have a wonderful weekend.

580
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:34.719
Thank you Terry Nolan, Harriet for
being here. We will see you

581
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:38.440
guys next Friday. Everybody enjoyed themselves
and I hope weather is better for everyone

582
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:43.960
this next week. Take care.
Oh it was beautiful here, so okay,

583
00:48:45.000 --> 00:49:04.719
bye bye you guys and th