March 15, 2024

DB Cooper and Zodiac Coincidences? Part 3

DB Cooper and Zodiac Coincidences? Part 3

After finishing up with the basics of the evidence that suggests we should look at how similar the operating style of DB Cooper, Zodiac Killer and Jack are, we will cover information in the actual Caper. We will analyze the letters for M.O. in the...

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After finishing up with the basics of the evidence that suggests we should look at how similar the operating style of DB Cooper, Zodiac Killer and Jack are, we will cover information in the actual Caper. We will analyze the letters for M.O. in the content, style, draftsmanship, locations of mailing and places they are sent to. Harriette Sucher’s solves in her book, “DB Cooper Solved,” will be covered as we look at each letter.

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True seekers and true crime junkies.
Welcome back to another episode of Hit

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the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac. I
want to welcome to the show. Today

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Live with us is Terry Batcher,
Hello, Hello, Hello, good morning,

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and Nolan del Campo having during the
net Good morning, and by phone

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we have Harriet Toouchet. Yeah,
weather, it's not cooperating here sixty So

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I said, you know, that's
okay. We got plenty to talk about

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without the weather being involved. I
actually wanted to start with something I found

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in your dB Cooper's Solved Book because
as I was going through it and getting

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ready for the content, which I
did in like the midnight hour last night,

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because Nolan and I spent three days
in San Diego going to court,

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and literally as I'm putting this stuff
together, I found this anagram that you

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had done of Daniel B. Cooper, so I wanted to ask. I

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know that they they labeled him as
dB Cooper because they found a dB Cooper

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in I believe Oregon, but the
ticket name was Daniel Cooper. So why

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did you add the B in there? Because I was getting to know the

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code system quite well, I thought, let's see, I was throwing something

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at the wall, Let's see what
sticks here, and I came out with

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this was having something to do with
this particular caper. Well in that pentagram

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you came up with, but by
anagramming out Daniel B. Cooper, you

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came up with r N B Dole
E ci a Off, which you then

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expounded on by putting together Richard Nixon
Bob Dole, which was a Senator emeritus

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cia Off. Can you tell us
what that means that this was? I

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was learning about the same time period
as I was putting the book together.

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Before that, anyways, that Hoppa
got himself into some serious truck bull by

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tipping off some information in Vietnam.
He was trying to use his bartering trip

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tips chips to you know, get
him out of a prison early. And

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that he was tipping off some people
where our CIA agents and Vietnam were so

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so there was just another reason to
bring down Halfa. He's the emeritus at

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the time, so Halfa doesn't really
know. Maybe he does know, but

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they're looking to bring him down any
way, shape or form. I was

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shocked. I said, okay for
emeritus, and he was. He was

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the emeritus president in nineteen seventy one
for the Teamsters union. Bob Dole was

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Bob Doll, Bob do. Bob
Doll was definitely linked with Nixon on a

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lot of things. This is a
little uncomfortable for me. Congressman. Yeah,

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yeah, Republican. Yeah, So
Richard Nixon and Bob Dole have a

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connection. And then emeritus alludes to
Hafa. Yeah, they were going to

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bring down Haffa. One of the
other reasons was he was betraying, in

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their view, according to this fault
the United States of America, so he

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had to go. So they were
trying to do anything. Yeah. So,

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and this has to do with this
microfilm information. I was seeing as

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I'm doing this, My god,
but what was our country doing taking pictures

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of Joe and light in a bedroom? Compromising pictures? That's what I'm seeing

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who, oh my god, Joe
and Ly the then president, yeah,

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the then high ranking president of Communist
China, and they were getting pictures of

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him and a lot going on here. They were using to they were using

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it to try to stop the Vietnam
War. And they got these pictures,

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and then you got Papa allegedly,
you know, finding this information and data

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and trying to use that as bartering
chips. Really very complicated. Nothing I

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was expecting, but it was hitting
home for me because my father was going

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to Vietnam a couple of times a
year, Hazard Booty Merchant Marine and bringing

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our supplies into the war zones.
So anyways, what's going on all right?

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Well, that brings us to where
we left off last week. We

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began to talk about the episode DBI
Cooper, Where Are You By? With

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Bruce Smith, who seems to be
the lead man. I would state in

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regards to the dB Cooper caper and
his famed suspect, I guess Rackstraw I

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think his name is. I think
that by the time we got done with

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this particular documentary, you could definitely
exclude Rex Straws. So we'll get to

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that as we go. We started
to talk about the event. So the

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day before Thanksgiving, on November twenty
third, nineteen seventy one, northwest Orient

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seven to twenty seven. Flight three
oh five was skyjack from Seattle, Washington,

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actually from mid flight and circled for
two and a half hours until the

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extortion demands were ready on the ground. The flight plans of flight three oh

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five was originating in Washington, DC
and stopped in Minneapolis, Minnesota, Great

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Falls, Montana, Missoula, Montana, Spokane, Washington, and Portland,

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Oregon being the last stop. He
had Tom Kolbert with the news media in

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there, and I equated him somehow
to Tom Voyd. I'm not sure why,

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but the passenger, Bill Mitchell,
was a college sophomore from Portland.

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The stewardesses were Florence Schaffner and Tina
Mucklow. Tina Mucklow printed this note based

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on what the what Daniel Cooper told
her to write. I'm not sure if

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she wrote it. I'm not sure
if he handed her a note and told

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her to rewrite it. Do you
know how that worked? Terry? Not

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exactly sure. It's been a while
since I write up on this, but

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it seems to me she tried to
copy it as closely as she could.

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He'd had her copy it side by
side with him, and that's why.

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Well, and this looks like something
she wrote well after the fact, because

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it says beneath it, well,
it says, miss I have a bomb

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in my briefcase and want you to
sit by me. And then it goes

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on to say, he told me
to write it in a piece of paper

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upon his request, So why would
you write that at the time? Fact,

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yeah, yeah, was given to
her. She wrote what he wrote

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and tried to emulate his handwriting,
but he took back the original note and

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she took the one she wrote up
to the cabin right, And and so

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this little statement of he told me
to write it in a piece of paper

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upon his requests, I suppose that
could have been done at the time,

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but you would think that he would
have stopped her from doing that. I

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don't know. I guess that this
was written after the fact as a recreation.

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But ye, recreation from the details
and everything. And I do like

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that the an signed is is literally
the an sign, which we know that

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is stereotypical Jack and zodiac and signed. So if she was attempting to mimic

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it in some way. I'm not
shocked. I think so because it's because

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it's so screwing. And you know
how many people, especially a lot bit

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like that, they usually have really
consistent and nice handwriting. And look at

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how wacky the whole thing is.
Whole thing has just distorted. Yeah,

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it is. He could have been
stressed. She could have definitely been stressed.

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So that might have caused you know, if we could revisit later armed

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with a little more detail. What
we do know is that it your brain.

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If it's going to affect your brain, it's going to affect your handwriting.

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And you have to imagine this type
of scenario definitely affected her brain.

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And what was that? Nolan and
got gressed for a second and Bob Dole.

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So in seventy six he was the
vice presidential candidate with Gerald Ford against

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Jimmy Carter. They lost, and
then in ninety six he ran against Clinton

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for president. He was a Republican
nominee and he lost to Clinton in ninety

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six. Huh. He also had
a bad wing. He had a bad

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iron from is a war hero I
think World War two injury, so he

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was disabled in one iron. So
he was kind of an all American boy

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hero and it was wildlife with him. What he did is that I don't

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think he's one of those guys ever
gotten hi himself in any trouble. And

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he stayed pretty clean, so that's
odd. Yeah, maybe I would.

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Maybe he was too clean. I
don't know. All right, So this

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is what these are. He was
on viagra. He was He was on

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viagra in the nineties. That's what
I remember about him. The public was

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he making Oh did he make commercials
up for it? Remember that? Yes?

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And then he had Yeah, then
they then they had Then they had

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the Clinton Monotica Winskey thing going on
at the same time, and all the

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all the jokes about Bob Dole and
the viagra sold. Bob Dole must have

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sold the viagra to to Clinton to
do it in the White House. I

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mean, anyways, we're getting back
to the story. Let's get off of

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my hagger, guys. So basically, this is the notes that I took

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as I watched the documentary. So
I'm just gonna give some briefs on it.

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Uh. It stated that the suspect
had olive complexion, Latin appearance,

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medium smooth skin, dark brown or
black hair that was combed back, possibly

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brown eyes. Suspect put on dark
wrap around glasses during latter part of flight,

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which actually kind of contradicts the passenger, Bill Mitchell, who said he

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was wearing sunglasses before they took off. So I'm not sure at what point

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in time he removed those for them
to be able to tell what color his

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eyes were, or put on these
wrap around glasses, or if they were

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one and the same. I really
couldn't make that one out. Either the

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race is white? What's that?
People? Because Jack is an all complexed

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and the suspect dB Cooper suspects I've
seen are not all complexed. There pretty

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much was I know we're gonna get
to that. We're gonna get to that,

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okay. So he was dressed in
a black suit with a white shirt,

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a narrow black tie, a black
rain type overcoat, and he knew

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it would be raining, so we
obviously, And and that goes plays back

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into that Ham radio thing that Jack's
a part of is getting the weather and

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knowing knowing what's coming on the weather
before anybody else does, because you're getting

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it over the airwaves, right,
Terry, right, I see you?

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Not in that head he drank bourbon, which was crown on the plane.

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He was a heavy smoker Raleigh cigarettes. He asked for two hundred thousand and

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four parachutes. He circled for two
and a half hours until everything was set

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on the ground. He shut all
the windows on the airplane and he had

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a big battery connected to dynamo dynamite
sticks in an attached We like that the

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attache right, which the problem of
fake right, It was fake I got.

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I don't know if he got that
far, but it was fake.

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We were going to get there.
Yes, you keep talking about that,

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and we're going to get to that
too. He bought the ticket that day,

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purportedly, and he must have.
He must have purchased it either in

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Missoula, Montana, or at least
one of the stops. I haven't figured

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that one out yet. But does
not mean that he didn't come in on

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the originating flight from DC, as
I suggested earlier, as he left from

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the DC Freeway. Phantom stuff,
and he could have bought his ticket at

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each stop as he got there,
making him basically untrackable. And who knows

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what name he used for those tickets
as he traversed across the United States.

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This is the beginning of mass travel
on airplanes. They said all skyjackings were

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political at this time, which leads
us right back to the Mob and Zodiac.

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So if all skyjackings are political,
then I'm not too far off the

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base to say that the Zodiac was
something political as well. Flight was headed

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to Reno from Spokane, Washington,
per perjack or Jack dB Cooper's request.

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The skyjacker asked for two hundred and
fifty miles per hour flaps down at a

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minimum height. The pilots didn't even
know the plane could go that slow and

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low. It said. They flew
over an area called the Dark Divide.

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Do you know what that is?
Terry dark Divide? I mean slby pine

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trees and there's water or pine trees. There's all very few open areas with

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something like that. Gotcham says he
was not nervous. It says he was

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not nervous. We know that to
be a Zodiac killer. M o especially

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as he walked to the presidio after
killing Paul Stein, he walked looking as

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if he was just some normal person
walking down the street. He hadn't just

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committed a murder. He was nice. As described by Mucklow, he sent

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Muckler to the cockpit and told her
not don't come out. At eight twelve

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pm, the pressure in the cabin
changes, Pilot's ears pop and the aft

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st went down. He takes off
the tie and he leaves it, which

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I think is another one of those
clues that the Zodiac states that he's always

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left behind. They searched Woodland East
Ariel and they had fingerprints on the ticket.

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So where are these fingerprints? Folks? Again, We're back to you

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know, square one, Lost info
or lost We'll never know, We'll never

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see it. Was he a clip
on time? Yes? Yeah, jac

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Penny clip on? So suspects per
Bruce Smith throughout this documentary mentioned Richard Floyd

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McCoy. He was a composite lookalike, but suspect wrote that it was incorrect.

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But the suspect actually wrote the FBI
to say that the composite that they

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drew was incorrect. He jumped out
of a seven to twenty seven plane four

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to five months after Cooper, so
evidently he either was attempting to mimic or

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show that it could be done.
I'm not sure what the purpose of jumping

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out of it seven twenty seven is. Like the parachute. What's that got

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away with it? But he didn't
get busted. Oh, Richard McCoy,

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Yeah, but it was stupid to
try it after right? Then his next

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His next suspect was Dwayne Webber.
He was an insurance salesman in a career

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criminal aka the mob who gives a
deathbed confession. But he looks nothing like

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the composite, which ironically makes him
a better suspect than McCoy because the suspect

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said, your composite is wrong and
let's see. But he lacked any parachute

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training. I thought that was a
buzzkill, Like, how are you going

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to give us this guy's a suspect. If he doesn't know what to jump

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out of a plane, he's not
gonna jump out. You're gonna like this

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one. Harriet Barb Dayton confessed to
be in dB. He used to be

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a man named Bobby. So what
is it? What is the deal with

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all of these individuals like John Mark
Carr? Once they get caught up or

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wrapped up in the middle of this
mess, they go and turn themselves into

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a woman so nobody can identify if
a kid. So you have one of

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the books I read? He she
is one of the primary suspects. That's

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what it says here. Used to
be a man named Bobby was a merchant

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marine, just like you were talking
about, and a librarian. So I'm

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assuming when he was a man he
was a merchant marine, and as a

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female he was a librarian. Hold
on, hold on one at a time.

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Go ahead, and oh me,
you haven't come across the tina mucklose

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surprise. I know this. Yeah, well we're going to get to that.

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There's a lot Okay, Okay,
we're gonna get to that. Nolan,

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what did you want to say.
I've seen pictures of Barb as a

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man and a woman, and I've
seen her in a woman and like a

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jumping flight suit. So she had
skills, perishing skills, right, it

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says she was he was a merchant
marine, so yeah, undoubtedly, right.

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Is that something that your father would
have learned, Harriet? As a

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merchant marine, he had a lot
of training. He was Navy. He

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was also Navy. He was Navy
because of the thing of World War Two.

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Before World War two he became Navy
reserved. So yeah, he had

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a lot of training. Yes,
well, I did not take that is

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this is eerily like John Mark Carr. Right, the man admits to a

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crime and then becomes a woman.
So we had John Mark Carr who takes

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credit for John Benay Ramsey but then
ultimately is found innocent. He had enough

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information to get them on board and
believe that he was to bring them all

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the way back here to the United
States. And then once he gets here

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they release him of charges. They
can't find his computer, so he's no

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longer up for pedophile charges in Sonoma
County. And then he becomes a woman

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afterwards. So there seems to be
this I have an objection to that because

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there's footage of John Mark Carr posts
the oh no, no, no,

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no, no, no, let's
let's not when we get to John I'm

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only using that, Okay, yes, but I'm only using that. It's

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I'm only using that as an analogy
for another person who makes or or admits

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to something they claimed to have done
and then ultimately becomes a woman afterwards.

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It was a faulty, but he
never turned into a woman, per se.

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So John Mark Carr, no,
he's actually really but sporting a wig

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and everything, being real tough guy
these days. Oh really? Anyway,

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all right, then there was Ken
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which who was bought out evidently by
del To Airlines in the end.

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I don't know that there was very
much information on this Ken Christianshin other than

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he worked for Northwest Orient. But
that doesn't necessarily make him a parachuter,

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you know, just because you work
for the airline. I'm pretty sure there's

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a lot of people who work for
the airline have never jumped out of one

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of those good running airplanes. Sheridan
Peterson worked at Boeing, which was another

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one of their options. And then
I said mob aka drug trafficker. Ron

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Carlson claims in twenty eleven to know
who DBI is claims he ran drugs and

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met Dick Briggs in nineteen seventy eight, who was a cocaine supplier. I

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think this is too braggy. I
mean, honestly, that's my personal opinion.

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But I think if you knew who
pulled that heist, you wouldn't even

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ever mention their name or you'd be
dead right. Yeah, yeah, but

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I've seen those two names come up
in documentaries on DV Cooper though. Briggs,

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Yes, there's so much different inform
a dB Cooper. It's all aside

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show. So this Ron Carlson inside
connections as well, absolutely, and enough

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to disseminate information so that it pointed
into different people or different patsies or what

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have you. Dick Briggs the well, I'm sorry Ron Carlson is actually on

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the dB Cooper documentary that we're talking
about right now, and he is stating

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that this Dick Briggs told him that
he knew who I'm sorry, Ron carl

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said. Carlson said that Dick Briggs
was the actual dB Cooper and that at

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one of his parties, he pointed
to a hippie family at one of his

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parties and said that they would find
some of his stolen money in three days

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on the north shore. And then, of course, on February tenth of

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nineteen eighty, Howard Ingram's son found
fifty eight hundred dollars on the Columbia River.

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And everybody's aware of that. That's
the money that doesn't look like it

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literally had sat out there for what
nine years in water. It was under

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it was under this, it was
sticking out of the surface. I'm not

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so sure about that. It was
something. It was weathered money but they

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also found a lot of it that
was shredded. That left that left them

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to believe that it was dredged up
as they dredged that area of the river

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to make a little deeper on a
regular right now some of the Yeah,

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but the bulk of it side got
hold on, hold on finish, finish,

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Terry. The bulk of it was
never found, gotcha, Yeah,

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all right, Nolan, Yeah,
on s This is one of the documentaries

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I've seen on dB. Cooper and
the side note too, the name Dan

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Cooper is taken from a comic book
character who was like a Stormtrooper hero.

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I think it was a Canadian comic
book. It was, Yes, it

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was, absolutely so. It is
believed that dig Brit Dick Briggs planted the

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money so his partygoers would find it, and it sounds like it was publicly

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announced for a purpose. If he
did, it shows conspiracy. If it

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didn't, then Carlson is making the
whole thing up after the fact in twenty

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eleven, which also suggests a conspiracy. So either way you go with this

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guy, you're looking at a conspiracy. Jack Trimarco of the FBI on Doctor

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Phil claims that Carlson is telling the
truth. Of course, the FBI said

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that, like, let's let's just
go with that. It doesn't prove Briggs

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was dB, just that he had
inside information and knowledge to turn suspicion,

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is my thought. John Richard Briggs
owned an auto repair shop in Portland,

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Oregon that died at the age of
forty one in an auto accident on Taylor

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Ferry Road. He was not in
Vietnam and he couldn't parachute, but evidently

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held he made suspect list. At
some point he was what if they're guaranteed

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a broken leg on that within the
old days, So I was thinking you

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could jump out with the parachute and
be Okay, you're going to get injured,

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You're going to get hurt well and
Briggs evidently I'm thinking this John Richard

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Briggs was related to Dick Briggs somehow. But he had this accident and it

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I think that there was some questions
as to whether or not he was suicided

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or murdered. So that's what I
took from that. And now finally it

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would be Rackstraw and this is actually
the legitimate suspect of Bruce Smith. Rackstraw

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was a member of the Playboy VIP
club, and we saw that at least

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one letter used the cutouts from Playboy
magazines. Rackstraw would call and say he

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was the President's personal pilot. Rackstraw
had forty six thousand dollars in bad checks,

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explosives, and already frauded a plane
that he called in as a plane

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crash over the ocean, when he
actually landed in LA and repainted the plane

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and replaced the ID numbers to get
over on an insurance scamdal. The FBI

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ruled Rackstraw out as cooper in Norjak
and Bruce Smith of Mountain News covers him

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being a CIA operative, which makes
sense. And he worked for Bell Helicopter

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and I ran in, let's see
that I had not finished my sentence.

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It looks like I didn't. Oh. And then he married Linda Kunkle in

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nineteen seventy four. He was married
to her for two years. She claimed

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they traveled like celebrities, which to
me, again, that reminds me of

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the Mob. You don't have to
be a celebrity. If you're the Mob,

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you get treated like a celebrity.
So they're going everything. Sorry,

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yeah, you ci mob front connection. Correct, Let's see Rackstraw opened a

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print shop in San Jose and forged
her name for a loan in nineteen seventy

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eight. And the FBI runs this
particular or they at least covered this particular

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fraud that he committed in nineteen eighty
five and Nicaragua. I cannot confirm this,

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but I'm sorry. So they said
that he was in Nicaragua in nineteen

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eighty five, but I think the
FBI said they could not confirm this,

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which then alluded to them making a
statement that that's code for yes, he

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did. I love, I cannot
confirm was Pablo Escobar and cocaine? Sorry,

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well, and then this is all
revolving around cocaine. You have a

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lot of references to cocaine, and
some of these solves correct. Oh,

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I had a time for every time
I'd be riches. What was that knowing?

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Yeah, n in eighty five was
in the middle of a civil war.

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Uh. The sending each is a
taken over and it was a socialist

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government under Daniel Ortega and Ronald Reagan
and her all Leenolords and that crew were

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That's what the I Ran Contra was
all about. They were funding the contracts

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and they were making deals with that
Ranian's on one hand and funding the countries

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on the other hand, all through
that, and Bush was involved with that

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too, Right, Bush was involved
with Yeah, I cannot confirm, Deny.

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I gotta tell you. I'm seeing
Bush was secretly running the White House.

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Reagan was a cocaine cowboy. The
stuff I'm working on lately, and

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I'm Republican, it's difficult for me
to say that cocaine cowboy. Yeah,

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that's him. She's I cannot recall. It says that there were eight cigarettes.

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It says that the there are eight
cigarette butts that were with the FBI

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in Las Vegas and those have gone
missing. Go figure. So DNA is

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out. The chief of disguise for
the CIA is actually on this episode,

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and she says that her job in
the CIA is to reverse everything about your

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looks. Witnesses said Cooper was wearing
makeup and his hair was shiny, like

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it was dyed. That took me
back to the nurse murders and Jack rocking

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the black hair. We did see
him dye his hair black at one point

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in time, and we have pictures
of that where it's growing back out.

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Rackstraw was some sort of accomplice,
but not likely Cooper. Stewardess Tina Muckler

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was shown pictures and said suspect had
brown eyes, but these could be contacts

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and Rackstraw had green eyes. The
stewardess also said that Rackstraw was not Cooper.

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So she's there been shown Rackstraw's pictures
and they're saying that's not the person

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that was on the plane. So
it kind of it conflicts with what Bruce

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Smith thinks. But the chief of
disguise, I thought was interesting. She

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said that they would give you a
different nose, they would put makeup on

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you, they would dye your hair. They literally were to reverse everything about

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your looks so that when you went
into one of these operations, you could

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not be identified afterwards. And that
hits home with us because we know that

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the Zodiac very clearly stated that he
doesn't look the same when he does his

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thing. There's a Canadian connection,
is this is where that came in?

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Canadian connection. Dan Cooper is a
French pilot comic book Albert weinbook. Weinberg

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who visited Royal Canadian Air Force in
sixties and seventies in Canada, and the

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author was Jeoffrey Gray sayes that sound
familiar. Nolan, Yep, That's what

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I was saying earlier. But also
when it comes to the disguise, is

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it's an m for the CIA and
their front organizations. For instance, Howard

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hat was involved in Watergate and many
think he was involved in the Kennedy assassination.

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He stated in his book that he
always had disguised as different looks for

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different missions and different ideas, so
that should he have to should he get

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caught, he's giving a fake name. They're going to arrest the wrong person.

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We've seen this happen in Jack's case, where he's been arrested and bonded

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out and continued to go through probation, all under the wrong name. So

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all of that is completely true.
And then of course that Dan Cooper comic

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book which takes us right back to
the Zodiac again with the Dick Tracy comics

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that he knew about ahead of time
and was publishing information that hadn't been shown

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to the public yet. So again
we have a distinct connection there between Cooper

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and Zodiac. Lynn Doyle Cooper was
a suspect that was never ruled out.

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Revolting was going on in Canada.
Thus the Revolution letter by Cooper and the

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tie. And this is where the
tie comes in. I know you sent

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me some stuff earlier terry on this, but the tie had pure titanium and

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stainless steel on it, which is
commercially pure that would be found at places

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like Boeing Aerospace and the chemical sector, so the moon landing stamp by the

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zodiac and the NASA relation as in
Tim Miller letter, and the chemical sector

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being like the General Electric nuclear power
plant. Am I wrapping that up all?

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Yeah? They're over two hundreds highly
specialized particles found on the tie by

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an expert some years two hundred.
One of them was lehantium cantillate, which

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is an infrared detecting type of a
crystal, and that we'll talk about later.

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But that's so there was a valuable
sie. I wouldn't have left it

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behind it as it's a definite message. You know that stuff? You know?

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Do you think all of that stuff
would have been something that he could

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have collected working for General Electric?
YEP, go ahead and no One a

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lot of places. I think he
was supplied with the tie by his handlers,

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Yeah, than just him. I
think the whole operation is bigger than

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just Dan Cooper. I think so
too. I think all right, So

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we had a letter, and I
don't actually actively have the letter, but

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there was a letter that was mailed
November twenty sixth, nineteen seventy one to

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It doesn't say who was just as
miss and then it doesn't state who it

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was. But the interesting part was
it was postmarked from Minnesota, which is

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one of the stops along the dB
Cooper flight plan from DC to Portland,

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Oregon. It was addressed to Miss
something in South Richfield, Massachusetts. It

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was a one page handwritten letter,
dated November twenty fifth, nineteen seventy one,

389
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:35.519
beginning Dear so and so saw your
picture in the paper. And I'm

390
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:37.319
not sure what this is about or
why this was in the FOYA files,

391
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:39.880
but I thought I would just throw
it in here and then take a look

392
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:44.720
just because the Minnesota connection, and
it was on the flight plan of that

393
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.480
flight three oh five. So I
pulled some of the zip codes to see

394
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:52.119
where we would end up with that
particular zip code, and it listed so

395
00:32:52.279 --> 00:33:00.440
many different places. But that brings
us to the very first letter I believe

396
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:04.759
in the series that came out,
which is attention, Thanks for hospitality was

397
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:09.119
in a rut dB Cooper. This
was mailed to the Reno newspaper, Reno,

398
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:15.319
Nevada. So hospitality. We've seen
hospital reference in many of the Zodiac

399
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:20.240
the Dear draft Board letters. Almost
every time there's a mention of what happened

400
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.960
to the Zodiac or this killer,
it's mentioned that either he has died,

401
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:29.400
or he's in the hospital, or
he's in jail. So this runs Postpark,

402
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:34.240
California. Yes, postmark is California, Oakdale, California, which is

403
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.839
the Modesto area, And I'm pretty
sure that these cutouts came out of the

404
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.799
Modesto b So when they said that
the suspect was a Portland work and resident,

405
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:45.680
I laughed. I scoffed. Aha, Like the first letter that comes

406
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:51.079
out of this caper is mailed out
of the Modesto area because that's where Oakdale

407
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:55.400
is is in the San Jwaquin Valley. That's his first reactive police response.

408
00:33:55.519 --> 00:34:00.000
Okay, he's got to be from
Portland, you know, which doesn't make

409
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:05.240
any sense because he's around the airport
and they searched the airport in the vicinity

410
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:09.239
when he jumped out way before the
airport. You know, it's lazy police

411
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:16.039
work. Doesn't That letter would get
to be a lot of Zodi hag Jack

412
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:22.920
as would get Look at the look
at the ny V it has. It

413
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:27.039
has that eerie symbol that we found
on the Halloween card. A lot of

414
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.480
very similar, very similar. The
way the n e V is written,

415
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:38.760
that is comparative to that the US
steel stamp everything and the R and reno

416
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:49.039
and the whole word reno is reminiscent
of the the card to Count Marco right

417
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.719
right, Yes, the long dragging
ends in the finals on the on the

418
00:34:52.840 --> 00:35:00.440
handwriting, Yes, this is definitely
what's that one of your documents Asia that

419
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:05.199
will be addressed BB Cooper. Yeah, we haven't gotten there yet. We're

420
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.920
just now starting on the very first
letter. So I also notated Nolan that

421
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:15.119
the writing was like the red Phantom, which is the Count Marco the North.

422
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:21.559
Any the N formation is indicative of
the symbol for Mount Diabolo in the

423
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:25.599
Halloween card. The period dots are
a running system that's used and from Oakdale,

424
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:29.400
which is around the corner from Modesto, which is where the abduction of

425
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:34.039
Kathleen John's happened. So letter number
one it says it was sent out from

426
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.960
Oakdale, California, on Saturday,
November twenty seventh, nineteen seventy one.

427
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:42.239
It reached the Reno Evening Gazette on
Monday, November twenty ninth, nineteen seventy

428
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:45.119
one, and was immediately published on
page one of that evening edition. It

429
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:49.920
reads, attention, thanks for the
hospitality. Was in a rut dB Cooper.

430
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.159
It was a cut and paste letter. This is something that the zodiac

431
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:57.199
all the way back to Black Dahlia. I mean, from day one this

432
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:01.639
man has used this determined within two
days that the letters, words, and

433
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:06.519
phrases came from the Friday, November
twenty sixth, nineteen seventy one edition of

434
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:10.639
the Modesta b newspaper. Bill Gossett
lived in Merced, California for many years

435
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:15.800
prior to nineteen seventy one, and
his first family was eating Thanksgiving dinner in

436
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:20.559
Merced the night after Cooper hijacked Northwest
Airlines flight number three oh five. I'm

437
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:24.440
guessing that the person who wrote this
thinks that Bill Gossett is a possible suspect.

438
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:30.519
Mersett is about twenty miles from Oakdale, California. The FBI took possession

439
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:34.280
of this letter and it has never
been seen since. Go figure. Huh.

440
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:40.119
Yeah, one of the first songs
going on. It's with a cigarette

441
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:49.519
butts in JFK's brain in a vault. So so yes, I did a

442
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:54.559
dream vig. I did a quick
map of the location. We can see

443
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:58.880
that Modesta, California is here.
The letter was mailed out of Oakdale,

444
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:04.159
California up here, and they are
approximately fourteen point eight miles from each other,

445
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.360
so twenty seven minutes away. But
it is highly likely that the Modesto

446
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:10.840
Bee is actually servicing the entire area, so he could have gotten that newspaper

447
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:15.559
right there in Oakdale, I'm sure
so. Using an alive they were.

448
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:21.159
They were the Modesto b head all
of central California. That the people who

449
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:25.480
owned it right. So, using
an anagram system that Jack taught to Dennis

450
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:30.239
and applied by Harriet, you came
up with this solve. So you used

451
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:34.760
all of the wording that's in this
particular letter, and you came up with

452
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:38.800
attention United States, Robert Kennedy shot
in hospital. I dare Northeast British Columbia

453
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:45.400
and Northwest Orient Airline to pay for
it. Do you recall that solve?

454
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:50.119
Yes? I do, and I'm
looking for it in my book. But

455
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:54.000
yeah, there's yeah, there's there's
a lot going on there there. Well,

456
00:37:54.039 --> 00:38:01.840
that kind of it, kind of
what they believe Papa's behind killing Kennedy.

457
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:07.000
So it's another it's not a sign
to bring him that it's not a

458
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:13.480
cipher. She anagrammed the letters on
this particular communication, so the words attention,

459
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.400
thanks for hospitality was in a rut, dbe Cooper, and the Reno

460
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:23.559
newspaper Reno, Nevada was all used
in order to complete the anagramming process that

461
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:29.280
read a message that stated attention,
United States, Robert Kennedy shot in the

462
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:32.480
hospital. I dare Northeast British Columbia
Northwest Orient Airline to pay for it.

463
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:37.000
This kind of reminds me of the
fact that Harriet was starting to see solves

464
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.840
that indicated that he was upset that
the Zodiac was upset for not getting paid

465
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.239
for his little list of people that
he killed in retribution for Robert Kennedy.

466
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:49.960
So now to say I dare these
people to pay for it is almost as

467
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.559
if to say he was he was
going to collect his money because he's not

468
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:58.239
getting paid from the government, from
the politicians that he is reaching out to

469
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:04.039
as a handler he's not seen pay
right parent. Actually, okay, I'm

470
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.960
trying to the one that I have
that's in the book is where the Reno

471
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:14.280
newspaper Reno, Nevada, Oakdale,
et cetera interrupt dB Cooper. That one

472
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:16.360
is. Yeah, we're gonna go. We're gonna get to that one.

473
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:20.199
We haven't got. This is an
old solve that you gave me. So

474
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:24.400
I've had this. I've had this
one in the PowerPoint presentation since back in

475
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:30.440
twenty thirteen, so I know that
you. Okay, okay, since then.

476
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:32.440
Yeah, and we're gonna we're gonna
move right into the one you're talking

477
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:37.920
about right now. So the dB
Cooper solve on the Reno newspaper. Go

478
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:45.079
ahead and read that solve since you
have it. Yeah, I was learning

479
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.880
more about this system. It just
came out as I'll just read what the

480
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:54.199
Reno newspaper then e v Oakdale,
c A. The zip code ninety five

481
00:39:54.360 --> 00:40:00.239
zero six one. November twenty seven, nineteen seventy one. President Dwight David

482
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:07.519
Eisenhower, USA eight cent attention exclamation
mark, thanks for hospitality was in a

483
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:14.880
rut dB Cooper that all added rammed
out to President Nixon ok Agnew USA spy

484
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:21.760
Attack Op Ratchet. It was to
collect money via a Northwest Orient seven sixteen,

485
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:28.679
nineteen seventy one. A tackle spindle
line was hid briefcase door compartment void

486
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:34.480
ad usom when went over Reno at
the zip code of eight nine five zero

487
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:42.519
two. So ratchet means ransom ad
usam is very I see him using that

488
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.199
a lot a US Latin for ad
use them and then the zip code.

489
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:51.440
And that's where Jack Dennis said a
million times that Jack got injured as he

490
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.840
had jumped out back there, busted
his shoulder, motorcycle, all kinds of

491
00:40:54.960 --> 00:41:00.559
information there. But that's what this
is saying that the that the just like

492
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:06.039
you said, Terry b that was
a fake bomb thing the compartment void.

493
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.400
Yeah, he probably took it in
the bathroom and burned it up. It

494
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:15.199
was just a fake paper copy of
it. And they were painted red dynamite

495
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.920
sticks and dynamites only read in the
cartoons. It's actually a different kind of

496
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:24.639
a beige collar a real dynamite.
So so he's having his little joke there

497
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:30.159
too. But you know, use
of red dynamite well, and I'm interested

498
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:37.039
that the Agnew Pops up in the
dB Cooper messages because Agnew at this particular

499
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:42.199
time was also forced into resignation.
And since he was forced to resign,

500
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.239
he then turned around and borrowed two
hundred thousand from Sinatra and he pays it

501
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.519
back within a very short period of
time, like he almost immediately pays his

502
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.239
money back to Sinatra. So where
where did that two hundred thousand come from?

503
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:54.519
If he had access to that kind
of money, why did he even

504
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:59.000
need to borrow it? First off? And second off being able to pay

505
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.079
it back so quickly. Into cakes
that he came into some money rather fast.

506
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:09.440
So this might be connected somehow,
right, yes, And the reason

507
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:15.079
forced out because he was caught red
handed taking bribes when he was the governor

508
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:20.400
of Maryland. And the reason Nixon
put him on the ticket he was one

509
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:24.760
of the part of the most conservative
parts of the Republican Party and Nixon wanted

510
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:32.880
the sport of the hardline Republicans and
because there were other more conservative Republicans than

511
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:37.400
Nixon running, so he'd be brought
Agnew on the ticket for that. Then

512
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:42.599
when Agne was vice president, he
still kept taking bribes, so he finally

513
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.119
had to go that they ran him
out before they ran out Nixon. Wow,

514
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:50.400
that's that's one of those things with
politics. They end up taking somebody

515
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:52.679
they didn't really want to take,
but they have to. That's right.

516
00:42:53.719 --> 00:43:00.679
Yeah. So we have the first
letter coming out of Oakdale, California.

517
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:06.320
The second letter that follows actually comes
out of Canada. So on November thirtieth,

518
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:10.840
nineteen seventy one, we receive a
letter that's mailed to the chief Editor

519
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:17.400
the Province in Vancouver, and it
says the composite does not reflect the truth.

520
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:21.920
So this is the first time that
he is stating that whatever the FBI

521
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.119
is put together as a composite doesn't
reflect the truth. And the only person

522
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:30.239
I've seen so far that has ever
been willing to put a communication out there

523
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:35.159
telling law enforcement that they got it
wrong was the Zodiac. I've never seen

524
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:40.280
this occurred before and probably we never
will again. But here it is.

525
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:46.199
It says chief Editor the Province,
the composite drawing on page three, as

526
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:51.920
suspected, does not represent the truth. I enjoyed the Great Cup game and

527
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.519
am leaving Vancouver. Thank you for
your hospitality, dB Cooper. So we've

528
00:43:55.559 --> 00:44:00.480
got the hospitality thing going again.
Go ahead, Darry, can you match

529
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.920
this handwriting to Jack's hand a long
time Agoal We're going to actually get to

530
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:08.960
that point because I just found the
clearest version in Harriet's book that I've ever

531
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:13.559
seen. This was a little too
muddled. It does have the overall gustalt

532
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:17.880
of the Winnovich letters the Scorpion letters
to John Walsh. It does have the

533
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.280
overall image for me is very similar
and the thickness the weight of the writing.

534
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.960
So let me just run down this
letter real quick. November thirtieth,

535
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:31.119
nineteen seventy one. Composite does not
reflect the truth. The Vancouver Province newspapers,

536
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:37.280
where it was mailed from Vancouver,
British Columbia in Canada says he got

537
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.880
it wrong that Zodiac one A one. He watched a game which runs in

538
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:45.960
tandem with Zodiac's Fun and Games.
Hospitality is mentioned. Again. Handwriting is

539
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:49.599
indicative of Scorpion letters to John Walsh
in nineteen ninety one, which is a

540
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:55.199
twenty year anniversary of this. I
do find anniversarial communications where we are seeing

541
00:44:55.639 --> 00:45:01.559
twenty thirty fifty years Apart that the
style of handwriting or the mo in the

542
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:07.880
disguise of the handwriting is similar.
We Canada and the US share relationship unlike

543
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.719
any other in the world. The
US Armed Forces, as well as most

544
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:15.239
government departments in most countries, are
being mandated to make the most of what

545
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:19.239
funding it has. If a stable
and trusted facility exists, it makes sense

546
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.239
to purchase services when needed rather than
to operate a base. It secure.

547
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:27.800
Military access is needed, then arrangements
can be made to use Canadian Force Forces

548
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:31.480
bases. The same holds true for
if Canada needed to access US soil.

549
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:37.480
So we run hand in hand evidently
with these people. So here, I

550
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:43.320
just just opposed this particular writing to
the Scorpion letters so that everybody can see

551
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:47.599
what I'm talking about in regards to
the setup of the communication. The overall

552
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:52.840
assault for Cooper's Vancouver letter is most
similar to the Scorpion letters to John Walsh.

553
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:55.519
And it's also no coincidence that Cooper
letters were nineteen seventy one and the

554
00:45:55.599 --> 00:46:01.119
Scorpion Letters were written in nineteen ninety
one, which is an anniversary that brings

555
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:08.199
me to this particular No, I
think, oh, there's there's Harriet's okay.

556
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:14.440
So basically in this one, the
I put over here the Zodiacs letter

557
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:17.000
where it says I look like the
description passed out only when I do my

558
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:21.320
thing. The rest of the time
I look entirely different. So there he

559
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:23.800
is to tell them that, yes, that composite is reflective of who I

560
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:28.440
am, but not who I look
like daily. So he is admitting to

561
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:32.760
disguise that's occurring. Letter number two
it was a handprinted and mailed from Vancouver,

562
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:37.400
British Columbia, Canada, to the
Vancouver Province Editor's office. The province

563
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:42.199
published the letter on Wednesday, December
first, nineteen seventy one, but the

564
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.079
postage date was Tuesday, November thirtieth, nineteen seventy one. The letter was

565
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:50.400
taken by the Vancouver Police Department and
never seen again. The composite drawing on

566
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:53.440
page three is suspected by FBI does
not represent the truth. I enjoyed the

567
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:59.079
Great Cup Game and leaving Vancouver now. Thanks for your hospitality, dB Cooper.

568
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:02.360
The Cup Game is the Canadians version
of the Super Bowl and was played

569
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:07.559
on Sunday, November twenty eighth,
nineteen seventy one, in Vancouver. The

570
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.519
hijacker first saw the FBI's sketch of
himself in the Monday, November twenty ninth

571
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:15.840
nineteen seventy one newspaper and apparently didn't
like the drawing by the FBI. The

572
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.360
words thanks for the hospitality appeared again
in a letter that was sent in the

573
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:22.480
Vancouver, British Columbia, a long
ways from Reno, Nevada. This is

574
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.599
the same author of both letters,
a man on the run and taunting the

575
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:32.239
FBI. He says that his suspects, Gossip liked football, he liked Canada,

576
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:37.280
and he used the phrase thanks for
your hospitality often. So this person

577
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:44.280
whoever wrote this is definitely onto Gossip
as the DV Cooper suspect. That's the

578
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.599
last minute we have. If anybody
wants to share anything, we're going to

579
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:51.519
pick up and do the soll for
this next week. So does anybody want

580
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:55.320
to add anything? All hospitality must
be some sort of a single or a

581
00:47:55.400 --> 00:48:01.519
message, right that we haven't yet
addressed as such. But I have to

582
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:10.559
tell you the clue there. He's
always adding I t y afterwards, right.

583
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:15.159
Yes, it's kind of a thrown
back to where the zodiac. How

584
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:19.920
he breaks up his words quite often
exactly. That's good. That's good.

585
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:24.679
That's what I'm getting at. Anything
from you, Harriet, They happy saint

586
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:30.079
Patrick's Day, especially to those of
us with a touch of Irish blood in

587
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:35.360
us. So it's gemming up.
Yes, it is all right. Well

588
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:40.679
everybody, everybody have a wonderful weekend. Thank you guys for being here,

589
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:44.320
and we will pick up where we
left off next week. Everyone having a

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wonderful weekend. He was much funnier
today. Yeah, it's beautiful today.

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Yes, you're not where the tornadoes
are, all right, you guys,

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take care. Happy Saint Patty's Day. Yeah, exact think an exact