Feb. 13, 2026

Cryptography, Jack and Nora

Cryptography, Jack and Nora
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Finishing the discussion on cryptography and the methods from last week. Then moving onto Jack and Nora’s life as they depart California to Texas. Jack is terribly sick, but what they don’t know is that his heart is failing. CHS was a description from a witness in the Jonbenet murder, and as you see how mixed up the dating of Nora’s diary is, you have to wonder if Jack truly came home on Christmas when Dennis recalls New Year’s Eve with a sick Jack, but not that Jack had left for a month.

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Good morning, True Seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Road, Jack Finding the

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Zodiac and Happy Valentine's Eve.

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Tomorrow is Valentine's Day, and I hope everybody has a

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wonderful weekend this weekend.

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I'd like to invite to the show. Nolan del Campo,

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Good morning everybody.

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And Monday is a holiday too, what, Yeah.

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Resident's Day. Okay, I'm glad I know that now that.

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I won't expect my phone to bring and sit around

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waiting for business. Maybe we can meet on Monday, it's Alliday,

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and then I'd.

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Like to welcome to the show as well. Lindsay mcgreer, Hello,

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Good morning bubbles.

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Yes, I'm still trying to figure out, like how I

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could fit the whole piece in there.

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Yeah, reducing the size of the image. I don't know.

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I'm not very good at all at well.

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I'm just still getting used to like stream cast.

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So what is it? What are you using?

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Well, I use OBS, but I think you do yours

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through stream yard. I'm not I'm still getting familiar eyes

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with stream yard. I actually was on a show with

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someone else last Sunday and kind of played with it

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a little bit.

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So I'm just gonna get used to it.

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Gotcha.

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Yep, we're starting ours back next week.

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Hopefully we can get Megan on and I'm gonna try

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to pull her leg to get up on here one

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of these now.

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And what is the name of your show.

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Real Truth, Real Justice, Real Truth.

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Real Justice? And where's it? Where's it air on?

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It's at at Real Truth, Real Justice.

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And I'm gonna stream it on X and on YouTube

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like at the same time. So if you want to

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watch it on X you can, or if you want

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to watch it on YouTube you can as well.

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Beautiful good. I'm glad that all of the watchers out

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there get to hear that. So the thing that where to.

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Find you and of course you primarily cover a lot

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about the John Walsh stuff, right, Yeah, and how.

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He connects to all these different cases and you know,

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like we covered the Zodiac and you know even Epstein. Really,

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I mean I've been digging in those files lately, and

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you girl, I'm not you. It's like a rabbit hole

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after a rabbit hole because you're you know, you have

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the redaction, so many reactions, so it's like a puzzle

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literally and in like they're they're not in order, so

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I mean, they're like so you know, you kind of

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have to pull each one individually and then put them

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in order, and uh, you know, kind of put these

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puzzy puzzle pieces together to create the story of what

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you know, and see what's going on. And I mean

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I've done it, and it's a lot of stuff going

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on with I believe Erica Kirk and her mother.

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So wow.

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Well, and I say that. I say this because there's

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one of two things going on here. Either they're putting

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this information out in the in the manner in which

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they are in order to cause and create such a

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great amount of work to have to be done to

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be able to understand the documents. Or if this is

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clearly how the police department or the law enforcement or

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FBI runs their files, then no wonder they can't figure

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anything out. Yeah, if you got to swap back and

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forth from one date to the next, or literally pull

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the whole file printed out date order it so that

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you can read it in the right order, just yeah,

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I think that's absurd.

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Why would you not provide it to us in the

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order it came in the file?

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And I will say that a lot of creators that

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have the capability to UH and to AI and these

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UH like more expensive softwares, they've they've actually been creating

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putting loading all the files from the d J into

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this software and the software organizes it for you.

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A couple of people that I've been working with also

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have been doing that, and so that's like amazing. So

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that way, once they get it all set up, then

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you can go to this website and look for the

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files yourself and see them in order.

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And I just I just had a girlfriend ask me

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somebody had met on my trip to Ireland, which we've

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maintained friendship since then, just to ask me the other

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day whether or not I have been through the JFK files.

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Has any of you guys looked at the JFK files.

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I have briefly. And I've also looked at the MLK

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once and found some explosives.

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But so maybe something I should visit.

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And nothing that you should visit.

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Yeah, all right, all right, but.

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Maybe it's more it is.

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I would say it's more organized than the Epstein files

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for sure.

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Okay, go ahead, and if you talk JFK or MLK,

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I'm game anytime or RFK right.

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Ye, No, I know where I'm going. That's why you're here. Well,

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let's talk today about some current politics. Uh. I was

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just looking at Okay. So another thing that was brought

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to my attention was the Clintons and Guthrie. This the

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Hignaw God the journalist's mother. Have you heard about that one?

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Yes?

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I have, and it seems like that somebody should be

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able to identify that guy, right? Why did they take

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so long to release that footage exactly?

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But we know so that that This is why I

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think it was.

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Brought to my attention whether and by the same person

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who asked if I had seen the JFK files or

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had if I was working on those, had mentioned that.

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Uh.

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Guthrie's husband, the investigative reporter's husband was part of the

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administration for the Clintons.

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And of course maybe politically motivated some.

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Way, I think it is well.

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And her question was, I want to see if I

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can let me see if I could quote that correctly,

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because we don't talk a lot, so I don't have

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to go very far back to figure out what it

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was that she was trying to say.

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Listening to let's see, oh, find anything new in the

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JFK papers, and I interest, Oh.

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The deep dive here it is.

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She said, I was looking through Facebook this morning and

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thought I would talk to you about something I think

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is strange. The Clintons are in the hot seed over

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Epstein and Benghazy and what happens the Guthrie kidnapping splashed

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all over the news, Clinton reports barely reported on it,

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and Savanna's husband worked for the Clinton administration. Strange, right,

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I don't see that as strange. I mean, obviously that's

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the distraction method. Right, Let's create something so freaking outlandish

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that everybody pays attention over here while we figure out

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how to get ourselves or we's a way out of

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whatever it is that's going on.

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And yeah, I don't really think there's any way.

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I mean Clinton looking hungover in a picture with Epstein

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pretty much describes it all.

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And the picture of him win a dress and hanging

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up in Nepsyen's house. What.

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Yeah, there's a picture of Clinton, a painting of Clinton

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in a dress, dressing address, sitting in a chair, and it's.

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A portrait on his wall. There's a picture of it

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in the falls.

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Yeah, that is way more than casual business relationship.

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I'll send it to you after the show so you

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can see it and get a good laugh, because.

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Yeah, you should, because it's pretty hilarious.

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I wonder if it was the dress that Monica Lewinsky had.

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I don't know if he was supposed to be posing

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as Mona Lisa or what.

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But that streams a way better night than even Nolan

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and I have had.

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Exactly.

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I don't mean such. We've had some fun, but it's

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not caused any of us to dress in a really

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stand for a painting.

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That must mean that there's a I can't even I

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can't even see Clinton standing for a painting. That must

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have been a picture that was taken and somebody painted

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a portrait of it, and they probably thought it.

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Would I think I think the actual picture of that

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he that was taken of him. The girl the love

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picture is in there too, But I thought it was

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hilarious that he had a portrait done of it and

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put it on his.

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Wall, right, Yeah, well.

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It was large, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Every time he visited in his house he saw it

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on the wall.

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I'm like, oh, yeah, my minded event.

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You know that.

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That was a good night. Oh man?

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All right?

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So for more Some more local news, which actually kind

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of tied into some of the things that we've been

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talking about, was by a local journalist reporter named Katie Grimes.

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Her bio is Katie Grimes.

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The editor in chief of the California Globe, is a

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longtime investigative journalist covering the California state capital, the co

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author of California's War against Donald Trump, Who Wins, Who Loses,

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and a contributor to Taxifornia twenty sixteen. A California native

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and Navy mom, Katie lives in Sacramento, California. Are either

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of you familiar with the California Globe.

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No, I'm not, I should be right, but Capital correspondence

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for years familiar with most of the people that cover

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the capital.

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But evidently she's liking to out some of these things which

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I found a commonality between, and I will discuss those

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when we get there. But some of the comment or

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some of the things that were said at the end

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of the actual article itself says, Gavin Newsom is furious.

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We asked, how did okay? So let me give you

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the headline.

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First Vice President JD Vance to lead anti fraud task

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force in Newsom's California. California has been a focal point

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in recent fraud investigations. And at the end of the article,

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it goes on to say, Gavin Newsom is furious. We asked,

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how did this happen? How did public employees and elected

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politicians allow this to happen? How many are involved? So

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much fraud? Things are heating up. We'll keep you notified.

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This is going to be good. So I can't wait

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to see some of the outcomes in regards to this,

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because I already have my own feelers about Newsome and

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his hypocrisy of running this state and the homelessness and

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the fraud that's.

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Going on, and why have this.

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All of it?

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All of it? And this article really kind of hits

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home for that.

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It says the White House has announced its finalizing plans

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for new anti fraud task force targeting welfare abuse in

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California and other states, and assigned Vice President Jade Vance,

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Andrew Ferguson of the Federal Trade Commission, and Attorney General

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Pam Bondi. As The National Pulse reported Wednesday, California has

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been a focal point in recent fraud investigations. State auditors

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previously identified billions of dollars in fraudulent unemployment insurance claims

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and improper pandemic relief payments. Governor Gavin Newsom, Democrat, has

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defended his state, claiming his administration has made efforts.

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To recover funds and strengthen oversight.

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Last week, California's US Attorney, bill Essa Assale, is that

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how I say?

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Is that correct?

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Nolan?

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Do you know California's US attorney? I've lost him?

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Announced the arrest of Alexander Suffer of Los Angeles, who

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was charged with wire from odd and that officials seized

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his one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars range rover

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in La Mansion after he was arrested for allegedly stealing

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millions at taxpayer funds meant to house and feed the

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homeless in Los Angeles. Super was contracted with the City

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and County of Los Angeles to hows.

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I guess you got to get my clicker up and running.

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Here we go.

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Howse to feed up to six hundred homeless?

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What's that?

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You're not? No, you're not. Are you there?

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I can see.

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People, I do. I can see you, but I'm not

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hearing you.

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Very well, We'll come back to you, It says, feed

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up to six hundred homeless people, but instead spent millions

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on a luxurious life. The Globe reported super stole approximately

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twenty three million dollars. Shortly after this revelation, doctor mehmet Oz,

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administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said

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California is one of the epicenters for fraud, waste and

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abuse in the entire country, and they are proving massive

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suspected hospice and home health fraud in Los Angeles. If

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even a fraction of this is true, elected officials and

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public employees knew of it and allowed taxpayers to be

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robbed blind home health services.

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Our government approved.

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In March, Globe contributor Richie Greenberg and I addressed the

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less nonprofit Shadow Campaign Fund and explained when corporations cozy

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up to politicians through charity, they're not competing on merit,

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they're buying influence. We have been ringing the alarm bells

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for many years about dubious nonprofits tied to politicians and

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their families, friends and associates, nonprofits that are untraceable black

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holes for taxpayer government funding.

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And it's going back. It's been going back a long

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time back.

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When Jerry Brown was California Attorney General, we'll talk about him.

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I was reporting on.

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Nonprofit fraud and sending the information to the Attorney General's office,

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but all I got back was cricket.

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It kind of sounds like me on this case.

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More details came available last week about massive health care

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fraud occurring in California. Trump's CMS administrator, doctor oz is

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exposing jaw dropping fraud in Gavin Newsom's California with US

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Attorney Bill Asali.

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Are you back with me, Nolan?

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Yeah?

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I can hear you, am I saying his name right? Okay.

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We have witnessed a sevenfold increase in hospice in La County,

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sevenfold that doesn't happen naturally. Three point five billion just

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here in Los Angeles County. We think around hospice and

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home health care, then you add in all the other

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things like they have in Minnesota, but in California scale,

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it's huge.

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They are not.

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Seven times more deaths in La County than there were

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five years ago. These rosters and these do tend to

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be foreign influences. These are Russian Armenian gangs, mafia that

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are leading a lot of these efforts. A lot of

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it's driven by foreigners who came to Los Angeles very

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different culture, Russian Armenian groups, and this mafia seems to

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have taken over the system. They corrupt the doctors, They

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normalize fraud so that everyone sort of expects it, but

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the magnitude of it is so great that we have

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to take it on aggressively. It's a focus area for CMS,

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and this administration under President Trump is not going to

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tolerate taxpayer dollars being stolen because people aren't paying attention anymore.

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We're focused on this. And then that ends with Gavin

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Newsom is furious. I bet he is, But I'm going

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to tell you why this means so much to me.

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So basically, when I was a member of the American

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Society of an industrial security, which basically carries on continuing

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education for likes of homeland security for the Governor's detail,

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for private investigators, and security security personnel for all different

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I mean I even met people who.

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Was private security for celebrities. I met so many different

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people from so many different fields. But they would also.

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Have to do continuing education, just like myself, just like Nolan,

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just like a paralegal or anybody else who's required to

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keep up to.

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Date on education.

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And in this particular one of the particular meetings I

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was at, the FBI had come two of them actually

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stood there and spoke before us and said that they

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were tracking a ring of human trafficking that was being

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mainly committed by the Russian community, and the hub for

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that was in Sacramento areas, and the largest amount of.

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Fraud and crime that they were seeing was from the

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Russian community. So there was number one. Number two was

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my aunt who worked for.

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Medical fraud, and she had stated to me that the

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largest amount of fraud that she was seeing was coming

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from Russian immigrants, whereby many family members would be given

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whatever it was to get a house and to get

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benefits and suppose to get on their feet and become

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active participants in American society. But what they would actually

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do is be collecting fifteen twenty benefits deep in food stamps.

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So these people are.

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Eating like kings while we have homeless people and veterans

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on the street they can barely make a meal. And

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then they would all funnel their money together, albeit as

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under the table as.

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It could be, not paying taxes on anything. They would

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pay off one house, and then once they have that

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house paid off, then they would move families into another

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house pay that house off.

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So they're quickly becoming owners of real estate much higher

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and greater than any American citizen can't afford.

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And she was disgusted by it. So that was number two.

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Now we have this investigative reporter coming out and stating

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that they are proving. So if we can prove that

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this is who's doing it, why aren't we getting rid

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of them, Why are we not hammering down Why are

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we not kicking them out of the country. Why aren't

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that's committing a crime right after coming to this country.

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You should then be yeah, you should then be deported

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back to wherever you came from. And if they're achievable,

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the FBI has proved it. My aunt in medical product

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fraud has shown it. And now we've got an investigative

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reporter on the hill saying, we know where this is

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coming from. Why aren't we doing anything about it.

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I'm just.

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Like car workers and people like that that are actually

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contributing to society and not these.

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Crooks exactly one percent, and a lot of the times

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I just see it. I just see I don't want

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to believe that they're just so big and so strong

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that we can't overcome it or we can't do anything

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about it. So it has to be more of a

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political pat you on your back.

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Kind of thing.

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Right, If Nusom's letting these individuals get away with this stuff,

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where's his back?

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Law enforcement would have rule too, because there's very little

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state pleae.

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I fact, I don't even know if we have state

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pleas anymore for the role of the state police.

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Well, he's obviously he's obviously getting something from that. He's

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benefiting in some way in order to let it keep

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going on.

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Right, That's what I'm saying, Like there's no others.

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But I mean, he could lead the fire attorney general

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could come out against it, but there has to be

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a local enforcement.

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So well, we've got the FBI stating it, and actually THEBII.

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Authorities investigated themselves.

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The FBI indicated the only cases they wanted us to

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bring to them that were over a million dollars. So

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if you're only looking for, you know, fraud over a

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million dollars.

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Then how I mean a couple four.

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Different cases of two hundred and fifty thousand amounts to

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a million? Do you know how easily that can get

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away with the amount of money that can be responded with.

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I mean, that's ridiculous either way.

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That's how they do it.

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They do it in little increments here and there and

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like in different varieties.

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Right right.

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So then on LinkedIn, I see by Kyle Raid, he's

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posted something that says, holy cow. The sam La King

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County Sheriff Captain alleges that Pakistanis who have never even

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been in the US are voting in.

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California elections from Pakistan.

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According to the captain, voting records indicate individuals outside the country,

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specifically in Pakistan, can can participate in the California elections.

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I'm sorry, you guys, my picture of this is really

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bad and the line's through it has interrupted the words

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it says.

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If this is.

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True, taking it on, I guess national security threat. No

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wonder why California wants to hide voter info.

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From the FEDS.

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Basically, So, what they've stated is that California has created

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a online system where you can go on sign up,

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whether you have identification citizenship papers or not. And once

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your for your party and you say that you want

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to be entered as registered to vote, then you're automatically

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sent an email and from that point on then you

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start getting all the things that I would get in

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the mail as a United States citizen that has the

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voting propaganda and the ballots and everything else. So California,

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under Gavin Newsom's control, has created a system that has

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allowed anybody from outside the country to participate in our elections.

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Wow, where else is it happen?

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Exactly? So that's why my little picture over here to

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the side eagle eye. You know, Newsroom's out there, you know,

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just trying to stomp on Trump or whatever it is

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that he's doing. But I like this one where the

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birds looking at himself in the mirror and saying you mother.

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All right, So back to last week's stuff. Just some

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catch up on it.

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I did figure out Don Chaney was actually Arthur Lee

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Allen's friend. So when we were asking about Cheney, thinking

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it might have been a politician, this was actually somebody

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who narked Allah off and claimed that he thought he

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was the Zodiac. But I myself perfectly if Don Chaney

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had been the Zodiac, he would never have gone to

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the police to nark somebody off. He might have laid

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some clues, he might have done some things, but he

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would not have gone to the police department. I think

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that's the last thing the Zodiac would have ever done.

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In forty hours I watched. I don't know if anybody's

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watching them in forty eight hours that has just come aw,

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that's a twenty twenty five series. It's about thirty two episodes.

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Of course, right off the bat you could see, you

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know what their agenda was, by who they were host

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who they were.

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Deciding to promote in these particular forty eight hour cases,

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and one of them I skipped across to actually happened

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to be John Benney Ramsay.

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And I think some of that stuff. Since we haven't

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left John Bonny Ramsey yet, and we're gonna climb into

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nineteen ninety seven in January with Jack here, I thought

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it was important to show you guys what it is

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that they're trying to spin on this case now in

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twenty twenty five. So basically, oh girl, it'll just make

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you mad.

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Okay, you said twenty twenty five, maybe I haven't.

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Well, it's it's thirty two episodes and it's not just

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on John Minny Ramsey. John min A Ramsey just happens

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to be one of their episodes. And I'm not really

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quite sure why why they're even portraying this, except for now,

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I feel like this is who John Ramsey is owed

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to and continues to participate with knowing what it is

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that they can do to him, Because why hop on

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a forty eight hours segment when forty eight hours is

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meant that if you can't catch him in forty eight hours,

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you're probably.

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Not going to write.

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So they're supposed to show you what they do within

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the first forty eight hours, and then ultimately any other

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leads that come in, they will kind of try to

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air and then show you what the results were if

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they were capable of catching them person.

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But I've never seen an unsolved.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, and now that is it's nothing of the likes.

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So the one thing that hit me hard was they

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claimed that the Ramseys were never publicly called suspects.

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Yes, now they don't.

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So much to like immediately say no, that's incorrect.

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Yes, but at the end of the episode they double back.

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And say they remained crime suspects. I'm so confused now.

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I rewatched it just to make sure, because I thought

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maybe what it had said is that the police never

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00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:48.680
publicly called them suspects.

483
00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:51.079
But we know that's untrue as well. But they didn't.

484
00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:54.720
They just said they just blanketly said never publicly called suspects,

485
00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:56.160
and I about fell out of my chair. I'm like,

486
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:56.839
are you kidding me?

487
00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:59.680
This man didn't lose everything that he had, including his

488
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:02.240
daughter and his wife in the middle of this process

489
00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:09.119
to have never been a suspect the episode Clayon, I

490
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:16.000
am yeah, And this episode at the end goes and

491
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:20.440
says it all over again, remains prime suspects. They claimed

492
00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:23.480
that these leaks were fed to tabloids, so they're they're

493
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.759
trying to like Buifer Kate what a tabloid would do

494
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:29.440
versus what they want to call real news, when we

495
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.160
know that's just yellow journalism as well, but it says

496
00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:36.759
claims that claims that leaks were fed to tabloids, mostly

497
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:40.519
trying to blame the tabloids, tabloids for the weaponized press.

498
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:43.920
No, we can see many articles.

499
00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:46.480
Where they were vilified, so that's just simply not true.

500
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:47.839
It says in this.

501
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:52.839
That was, uh, I've read a book I can't remember

502
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:55.279
the name of the rough from my head about It

503
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.039
was written by one of the police officers. That was

504
00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:00.599
originally only case he wrote, and he said his book

505
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:06.079
that the tabloids are the ones that actually outed the

506
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:09.160
police for what they were doing. They were going, they

507
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:11.680
were the ones going after the Ramseys. And that's what

508
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:14.000
I'm saying, if we they were on a trail that

509
00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:16.480
they didn't want them on. And that's when the tabloids

510
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:20.759
say they went into his personal life and exploited him

511
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:24.839
by putting pictures and everything, a family in there and

512
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:27.839
like giving like secret death like almost like a death

513
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:30.680
threat of like you better not go there, because right.

514
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:32.720
Right, right, So but let's let's focus.

515
00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:35.279
Let's focus on what the news is trying to do,

516
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:38.759
because honestly speaking, if the tabloids were out, there're the

517
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:42.880
ones leaking what was leaked to them as false leads

518
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:45.839
are false words, then these tabloids need to be shut down.

519
00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:46.920
If they are.

520
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:51.799
Simply just mimicking bad information that isn't true, sensationalizing something

521
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:54.839
to hurt another person, then I think that's grounds for

522
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.240
that to be shut down, right, I mean, Nolan, the

523
00:27:57.359 --> 00:27:59.960
limit to freedom of speech is that what you're speaking

524
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:00.519
it's true.

525
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:03.880
Right, Well, they do it and make money off it,

526
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:05.400
so but.

527
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:08.240
They shouldn't be allowed to They should be we should

528
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:10.480
be looking at who the heads of these tabloids are.

529
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:14.960
Wasn't Murdoch head of Star? Yeah?

530
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:19.799
I was asking, So Star is a tabloid and Star

531
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:23.359
is random by the way, Yes he is.

532
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:25.759
I would not put anything past it.

533
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:28.319
I saw a post on Facebook where Burton Ernie was

534
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:31.160
thrown up as a picture by one of my favorite

535
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:34.119
drummers in the Young Doubliners, and it said they're not

536
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:38.480
on the on the Ramsey's list. I giggled and slapped

537
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:44.599
back and said, how about their creators? It may not

538
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:46.480
be Burdon Rnie on that list, but I bet you

539
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:50.880
who created them might be. Anyways, there should be a

540
00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:53.319
way to shut these tabloids down if they're in fact

541
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:58.079
just producing nonsense, you know, aliens, and you just can't

542
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:00.799
go around saying some things without some proof for truth

543
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:04.400
behind it. And heaven forbid that Hillary Clinton make mention

544
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.880
that any any American citizen who is not speaking the

545
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:09.160
truth on social.

546
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:12.480
Media should go to jail. What about these people?

547
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:14.799
Why don't we start at the top and work our

548
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.279
way down and somewhere meet in the middle so everybody's

549
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:21.279
getting the right information. It said that also John went

550
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.000
from a billion dollar company, which I've said this many times,

551
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:27.160
to no work in four years and has to sell

552
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.079
their Atlanta mansion due to financial hardship. From the case,

553
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.920
there's another connection back to Atlanta. I did not know

554
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:35.000
that the Ramsey's own Atlanta.

555
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:39.480
So you did it? No? No, I mean, but I

556
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:43.880
know Atlanta. Well, yeah, and I'm.

557
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:46.240
Sure I read it, but it never really made like

558
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:50.559
any connection for me until this particular case in which

559
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.839
you know the fact that he went from a billion

560
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.039
dollar company to no work in four years.

561
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:57.720
This is what I talk about. They can make and

562
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.599
break you. So he was made.

563
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.359
I don't know if I believe that totally in total.

564
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:07.880
Well, he had to sell pretty much everything into downsize, yeah,

565
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:12.920
sell everything was losing money, you know, left and right,

566
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:16.079
and as far as no work in four years. If

567
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:18.359
there was some truth about the software that he sold

568
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:22.680
the Lockeed being outdated and they figured this out, then

569
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:25.119
that may have been the hit to him. That he

570
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:28.200
sold a program for a billion dollars that had no

571
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:32.400
value because it was now outdated software. And then of

572
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.720
course General Electric being the ones who come in and

573
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:37.079
sweep up his company for pennies on the dollar that

574
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:40.359
it just it screams making break. And of course now

575
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.319
I feel like they're giving back to him a little

576
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:43.839
bit at a time. I don't know if he's being

577
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:48.200
paid for these particular documentaries or these episodes that he's doing,

578
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:50.400
but the bottom line is is that every single time,

579
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:53.920
ever since twenty twenty one, I want to say, every

580
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:56.240
documentary that I have looked at on the John Bennet

581
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:58.960
Ramsey case is intimated to the fact that they should

582
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:01.480
be able to run the DNA through Ancestry in twenty

583
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:03.359
three and meters and come up with something.

584
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:05.759
Exactly still not done that.

585
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.240
Well, let me tell you a secret. They do get paid.

586
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:13.599
And I know that for a fact because I was

587
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:16.000
just on one.

588
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:22.240
We we we We taped it last October or maybe

589
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:23.000
before that.

590
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:25.759
But it's coming. It'll come out in March into March

591
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:27.880
or so on Hulu and Peacock.

592
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:32.039
But I was about a murder that happened in my hometown,

593
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.599
and so they wanted and since I was close with

594
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.200
the individual that was murdered, they wanted to interview me.

595
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:38.559
And they did pay me.

596
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:41.200
I'm not that it wasn't a lot or nothing, but

597
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:46.279
just imagine what it would be for John and as ramses.

598
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:47.640
Yeah, now you're nailing it.

599
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:49.480
Yeah, I want to say, I have a check over

600
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:51.480
here that's taped to my wall for me doing Life

601
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:54.079
After lock Up, which I'll never do again. That is

602
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:57.039
such a stummy, freaking program, the way these people are

603
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:00.000
treated like celebrities after they've done wrong to other.

604
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:02.480
I made two hundred and fifty bucks.

605
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.640
Yeah, it was it was like it was like it

606
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:08.400
was like, well, I had to go twice and I

607
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:11.000
actually provided some pictures and stuff that they want and

608
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:12.319
they wanted to pay me for the pictures.

609
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:14.079
But it was under three hundred dollars.

610
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:16.079
Right go ahead, Nolan.

611
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:18.880
Oh, way back when I worked at Channel three when

612
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:23.839
I was in college. Uh, real, people contracted kcra that's

613
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:26.400
where I worked because they were the NBC affiliate and

614
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:29.720
the TV show Real People, and they needed help with

615
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:34.640
the Anna Conrad story. The woman got frozen in Tahoe

616
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.480
and had to have her feet indicated anyway, so they

617
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.480
did an episode on Anna Conrad and I helped them

618
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:42.359
with that, and they sent me a little check.

619
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:46.480
Oh well, yeah, it's always gonna be a little people check.

620
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:52.400
Yeah, I love that. Yeah. So some of the other

621
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:53.880
information that it talked about was.

622
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:57.920
Loui Smith in a police the loose Smid police interview

623
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.440
tapes were given to forty eight hours, it says, by

624
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.160
John Bene Ramsey. But how would John Ramsey be in

625
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:05.559
possession of police interview tapes?

626
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:09.119
No one, because he was very close with the family.

627
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:12.319
Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.

628
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.920
Lou Smith was the interviewer. You got to stand track

629
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:18.119
here with me. Loui Smith was the police interviewer.

630
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:22.519
Oh yeah, he was an attacked him and the interview

631
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:23.640
of Lou Smith.

632
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.079
These tapes were given, it says, on forty eight hours.

633
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:29.880
So they're they're showing, oh, we've got hours of this footage.

634
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:31.720
You should see this, you should see that. Some of

635
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:33.640
it made lights, some of it made fun some of.

636
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:37.319
It kind of damage the Ramseys, in my mind is

637
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:39.279
the way they showed or portrayed it on this on

638
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:43.400
this documentary. But it says that these tapes, the police

639
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:46.960
interview tapes of lou Smith interviewing the Ramseys, was given

640
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.480
to John Ramsey. Is that something you would do in

641
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:51.319
an open case.

642
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.519
No, exactly.

643
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:58.279
So again, we've got evidence slipping to the outside, just

644
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:00.920
like Tom Boyd with all the evidence that he's been given.

645
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:04.480
How is it that these individuals, other than to continue

646
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:06.960
to perpetrate the misconception of what's really going on in

647
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:07.599
these cases?

648
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:09.960
Are these type of things happening to me? I thought

649
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:11.840
that was odd, so I put it in here as

650
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:12.599
a side note.

651
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:16.480
They didn't say because they paid him for it. He

652
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:17.599
probably paid him for it.

653
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:26.079
Who did John release me? Well, forty eight hours. Shouldn't

654
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:27.159
be able to pay for crap.

655
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:31.320
It's police evidence, it's evidence in an unsolved crime. Like

656
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:35.079
Nolan just said, it shouldn't be given to anybody, and

657
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.159
nobody should be able to buy it, and it shouldn't

658
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.760
become the highlight of tonight's entertainment.

659
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:43.239
What's that, Nolan?

660
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:44.159
That's odd?

661
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:48.079
It's very odd. So that was another thing I pointed out.

662
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:51.079
Now also, I was under the impression, and I think

663
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.840
it was Terry Batcher who stated that he read the

664
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.079
autopsy report that indicated that the blow to the head

665
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.760
for John Benay occurred after her death because there was

666
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:04.400
no poolling of blood where would have would have shown

667
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.559
that her heart was still pumping in order to produce.

668
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:11.000
The blood in that area from that damage. So I

669
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:12.559
took that to mean that he.

670
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.559
Read the autopsy correctly, and I reported on that in

671
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:18.119
our episodes about John Benny Ramsay.

672
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:20.440
But in this particular.

673
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:25.480
UH documentary, it says that the head injury occurred before

674
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:26.039
she died.

675
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:31.400
I think they've always retained that that was the fact,

676
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:32.679
that that was the fact.

677
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:35.760
So then I'm wondering where Harry got it and what

678
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:39.599
information had been fed, you know, to other sources. He

679
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:42.840
again just to confuse people, so he gets an authofs

680
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:44.920
a report that states that they believed that the head

681
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:47.880
injury occurred after she had been strangled because of the

682
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:51.079
lack of pooling of blood. And I tended to believe

683
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:53.679
that because, yes, that's something that if your heart stops pumping,

684
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.039
the blood doesn't keep flowing to the damaged area.

685
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:58.159
So there was another case.

686
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:00.440
I wanted to correct that if that's true, if that's

687
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:03.199
not true, and we're just being feded bs, I mean,

688
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:05.559
then just know that there are two versions out there.

689
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.480
And of course that's just keeping us all up in

690
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:11.320
the confusion world. It did point out that there were

691
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:14.599
fibers found on the duct tape that was on a

692
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.079
Ramsey that did not come from the Ramsey home, So

693
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:20.320
that indicates the tape was brought by a perpetrator. And

694
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.960
if that can simply be said that the fibers on

695
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:25.360
that tape when that little girl never left that house,

696
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:27.639
there was no rule of duct tape found in the house,

697
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:31.639
and there are fibers that are attached to that that

698
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:34.599
did not come from anything at the Ramsey house that

699
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.000
explicitly states intruder.

700
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:40.840
Well, they also have it. There's a lot of stuff

701
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:44.159
in this police investigator book that he notes, and one

702
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:45.760
of the things that stood out to me about the

703
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:48.719
duct tape was that, Okay, when he was he was

704
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:55.840
investigating that duct tape and he said that Patsy duct tape.

705
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.360
And that's just somebody making some statement that were said.

706
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:05.480
I mean this particular docum series is stating that this duct.

707
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:06.679
Tape did not come from their home.

708
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:08.599
There were fibers found on it that does not match

709
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:10.719
any fibers on the home, so that would indicate that

710
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:11.559
it was brought in.

711
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:15.199
The other part was the stun gun issue.

712
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.880
So most doctors claim that they were in fact stun

713
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:18.400
gun marks.

714
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:20.440
A majority of who.

715
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:25.000
They had indicated had done autopsies or consulted on the

716
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:28.559
autopsy reporter stuff like that, stated that they believed that

717
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:30.880
they were in fact stun gun marks. But John Benny

718
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.199
Ramsay was buried so quickly that when these theories came about,

719
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.199
nobody had the ability to actually measure them on her

720
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:38.760
body to verify.

721
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:39.360
Or validate that.

722
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:46.719
Except one examiner, doctor Spitz, which of course.

723
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:49.880
I won't even say the words, it just sounds bad.

724
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:54.159
Anyways, he was also the examiner in JFK's case. He's

725
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:56.400
the one that states they were not stun gun marks.

726
00:37:56.760 --> 00:38:00.199
He's the only opposition to all the other examiners. So

727
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.639
if you got JFK so horribly wrong, why are we

728
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:03.280
going to believe you?

729
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:04.400
In JBR.

730
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:10.320
Right, I was soada, that's like, well.

731
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:12.599
This was nineteen ninety six. She was killed.

732
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:17.119
Yeah, that's thirty thirty five years.

733
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:19.800
Yeah, but but he would have still been probably one

734
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:22.760
of the highest paid examiners out there for the rich, right.

735
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:24.920
I mean, they go back and take a look at him,

736
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:28.119
and then you you'll know why.

737
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:31.239
Then, well, if he was if he was what in

738
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:33.679
his forties, even he would have been in his seventies,

739
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:35.320
but he would have still been a great consultant.

740
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:37.639
Most of these people who work for the government.

741
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.239
Become consultants afterwards and make big money. My, my, the

742
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:44.039
thing that just stuck out in my mind is he's

743
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:46.519
the only opposition to that those are stun gun marks.

744
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:49.079
And he worked on the JFK case, And I went, boom,

745
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:49.599
there you go.

746
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:52.559
And then would why would they bring him in it? Anyway?

747
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:54.199
I don't, I don't know he was.

748
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:56.519
I think he was the original examiner in the case.

749
00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:59.159
I'm not sure I would. I'd have to go back

750
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:02.079
to see how he got self involved. But I'm sure

751
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.559
at the height of the DA trying to make their

752
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:07.199
claim against the Ramseys, would do you know, bringing in

753
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:08.960
all the big dogs in order to see if they

754
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:12.079
couldn't make a case that sticked against the Ramses. The

755
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:13.960
other part about this is that the only way to

756
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:17.360
verify the stun gun marks is to exhume John Bene

757
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:20.519
Ramsey's body to measure the precise distance between the marks.

758
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.920
But John Ramsey declines to exume his daughter, even though

759
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:27.199
this would prove the intruder theory.

760
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:28.639
I was at a complete loss.

761
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:32.239
You were being given an opportunity, and I get it.

762
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:35.039
Nobody wants to exhume their child. Nobody wants to exhume

763
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:37.960
their loved one period. But in a lot of cases,

764
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.480
people are exhumed just to figure out the truth. The

765
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.360
person that really wants to know the truth is going

766
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:48.559
to They're not going to stop at anything. They're going

767
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:53.840
to do everything that it takes. Whether you can't this piece, yeah,

768
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:56.000
you can't disturb the peace of a dead person.

769
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:56.440
They're dead.

770
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:59.159
They're not with us anymore. Like if you were asking

771
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:01.760
to you know, I don't know. I can't even imagine

772
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:03.599
in what world I wouldn't want to know that truth,

773
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:07.119
especially if it exploped me from the activities that happened

774
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.679
that night or that day, because neither of them owned

775
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:12.199
a stun gun stun gun and one was not found

776
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:16.360
in the house. But again John Ramsey denies or declines

777
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:19.920
to exume her, and most families I think would gladly

778
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:20.280
do this.

779
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:21.840
Just as you just said, lindsay.

780
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:26.639
That found the.

781
00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:29.159
Body, Well, let me tell you something. There actually was

782
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:31.320
something about.

783
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:32.800
Who found the body.

784
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:38.000
It was John Ramsey and his friend. They were both

785
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:40.960
searching in the basement after being told to look again

786
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:43.039
throughout the house by a police officer who had been

787
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:44.119
there for quite some time.

788
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:50.199
Last Bill White, Bill White, I think it was a white.

789
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:56.679
So it was him and a friend that went down based.

790
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:57.039
On the basis of the ransom road. They hadn't even

791
00:40:57.079 --> 00:40:59.360
searched the full house before calling the cops.

792
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:02.960
No, because they assumed she was gone. So they probably

793
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.639
looked in the general living areas. They looked in her room,

794
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:07.599
they looked, you know, in the playroom, they looked in

795
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:10.280
the The first thing.

796
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:12.079
I would do is where's my little girl?

797
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:14.840
Well, yeah, but you're gonna go to where you expect

798
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:16.800
her to be, and if she doesn't have a history

799
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:19.159
of hiding out in the basement, you probably aren't gonna

800
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:21.840
go there, right, I mean, get a ransom note.

801
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:24.280
That says I've taken her. Now your brain is on

802
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:26.679
the fritz. I'm sorry, But if I.

803
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:32.079
Basement, attic wherever.

804
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:35.159
Well, I'm sorry, but I pick up a ransom note

805
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:36.920
and I'm calling the police immediately.

806
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:37.639
I'm sorry.

807
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:40.840
That shouldn't be in my house. That's red flag number one.

808
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:43.320
And now do I believe the contents of that letter.

809
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.000
I mean, they honestly thought their child had been kidnapped

810
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.239
and now is being ransom So they wouldn't have any

811
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:50.599
reason to believe she's in the house, especially.

812
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:51.599
If they can't find her in her room.

813
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:53.360
If they can't find her in the playroom, they can't

814
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:54.880
find her in the living room, they can't find her

815
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:56.920
in the kitchen. I don't know that I would have

816
00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:59.199
gone so far as the basement. Some people have more

817
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:01.880
of a I think as a female I problem. Like

818
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:03.559
I said, my brain would just go on the fritz.

819
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:06.320
I don't know that I could have logically thought about anything,

820
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:10.400
even though my my normal calm self would say did

821
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:12.679
you check here? Did you check there? Have you checked here?

822
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:15.480
Have you checked there? That I'm not in that position.

823
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:18.960
I would also be looking for like clues or any

824
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.360
evidence too that they may have been left at the scene,

825
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.599
you know, and right Dan, I would have discovered there

826
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:27.000
is dead you know.

827
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:33.400
Well, another Another documentary I kind of picked up on

828
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:36.000
was The American Pickers, which I had always really liked

829
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:39.760
The American Pickers, and then I started seeing seeing stories

830
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:41.920
like this on here where the family made their money

831
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:44.960
from bootlegging and it would take it would take the

832
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.679
liquor out to the water on Hempstead Harbor and sell

833
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:50.679
to the well to do Gold Coast family, similar to

834
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:55.000
the Wolvers family, definitely screamed mob and it is sensatialized

835
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:56.960
as if something to be proud of, like here are

836
00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:00.639
these new generations of these families saying that.

837
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:03.760
All my family made money bootleg and and do the

838
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:06.800
illegal things. That right there should cause them to come

839
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.519
in and take all of their family's money.

840
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:12.400
Okay, Well, the Kennedy family made a lot of their money.

841
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:17.800
Through uh uh smuggling whiskey in the Northeast through Canada.

842
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:21.280
Exactly, and they they their money should be taken.

843
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:22.920
They should not be in politics.

844
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:25.280
They came up the wrong way to begin with and

845
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:27.360
learned that it was okay to do things dirty, and

846
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:29.920
they continue to do things dirty.

847
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:34.760
Yeah, Joe Senior, he had ties to the mob too, exactly.

848
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:37.440
That's what I'm saying, That's that's my own point for

849
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:38.119
bringing this up.

850
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:44.440
Purcello and Giancanna and trapid Conte and all those guys. Costello,

851
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:49.480
they all felt betrayed when RFK as Attorney general started

852
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:50.559
going after the mob.

853
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.280
When because that's the way they made their money.

854
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.679
The FK win the election as a favor to the

855
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:58.760
Dad that they would be protected, they.

856
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:01.639
Scream and hypocrite. No, you're dirty, dude.

857
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:04.639
Yeah, first said we got to kill Bobby. We just

858
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:07.679
got to the rim. Then said waiting, no, let's do

859
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:11.400
it even better. If we killed joan body will go away.

860
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:12.480
And that's what happened.

861
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:14.840
But he didn't. He didn't go away.

862
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.280
Oh, he waited a few years and he never you know,

863
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.960
he resigned as Attorney general sod thereafter and he began

864
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:23.159
an afterthought for a couple.

865
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:24.880
Of years until he came out.

866
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:25.679
Yeah.

867
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:30.280
So some of the information on this particular family, it

868
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:33.880
was great uncle Harry Brouse from Seacliff, New York, nineteen

869
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.280
twelve where he made his family's wealth. When I researched that,

870
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:42.559
I literally came up with the These are the I'm sorry,

871
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:43.719
these are the Google searches.

872
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.159
So past exhibits, Holocaust.

873
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:48.800
Memorial and Taunton center of I'm not sure what that's

874
00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:52.519
gonna say, Nassau maybe, but it includes Harry Browse. New

875
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:56.519
museum set up opening highlight Jewish history on Long Island

876
00:44:56.679 --> 00:44:59.880
again featuring Harry Browse. So this is the media now

877
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:06.519
all praising these individuals. Yeah, and on exhibit Island's Jewish history.

878
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.559
Harry Browse, a liquor store owner in glen Cove, became

879
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:13.880
a bootlegger during Prohibition. Actress store closed like they're priding

880
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.920
these people after the fact that I'm just disgusted by

881
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:20.559
it airing them on TV afterwards because you're picking out

882
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:21.400
some great fines.

883
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:23.719
I just can't even go there.

884
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:26.639
The great grandmother's house was actually a tailor in dry

885
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:30.760
cleaners that screams mob Prown family came to this country

886
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:35.559
and prospered as mob f w woolwort because woolworsts were

887
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:40.440
mentioned in this particular segment was linked to the paper

888
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:42.519
used in the communications of the Zodiac Killer.

889
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:44.360
The no address letter actually.

890
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:48.920
Came from New York from the Woolworst, from a Woolworst

891
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:49.639
in New York.

892
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.360
And of course I have cross connecting with that. Mary

893
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:53.719
Pinchot Meyer the mk.

894
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:57.280
Ultra in New York Okay, what's what? How does.

895
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:03.159
Because if this group was part of killing her in

896
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:05.320
New York, I think she was sixty two.

897
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:06.679
Right, he was killed in DC.

898
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:09.199
Still close?

899
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:14.079
Yeah, yeah, and she was one of jft's girlfriends, right,

900
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:18.320
and she her husband was Cordmyre, a high rate.

901
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:22.800
In CIA of THEA and as of the he thinks

902
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:24.199
the CIA killed Mary Meyer.

903
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:27.840
I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure it all wraps itself

904
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:29.719
right back around the same exact people.

905
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:33.039
But my point is is that if in sixty two, yeah,

906
00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:35.440
we're here committing this murder, it's easy to hop over

907
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:37.599
to New York and pick up this Woolworth paper that

908
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:41.639
then becomes a huge piece in a zodiac crime in

909
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:44.159
nineteen sixty nine. We got to agree that the paper

910
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:48.159
was achieved before the letter was written, right, So who

911
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:50.960
knows when and how, But it happens to be from.

912
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.320
New York real quick. On Mary Meyer.

913
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:58.519
Her sister was married to Ben Bradley, the editor of

914
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:02.079
the Wall Street not West her journal, but uh Washington

915
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:06.800
Post during the Watergate era. By some robirds in the

916
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:11.039
movie Ben Bradley, that was her sister was married to him.

917
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:17.159
After Ben Bradley and her sister went over to her

918
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:19.960
house to get her personal belongings and they ran into

919
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:25.480
James Angleton, the master c I a uh luck picker

920
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:29.119
in a high rank and CIA official house.

921
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:35.559
And so there's uh that that Angleton did get in

922
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:37.920
before they got in, and he took her like her

923
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:39.000
notebooks and.

924
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:42.280
Her personal lot of personal effects that could have pointed

925
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.880
out her knowledge about the JFK assassination exactly.

926
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:49.280
And that's what they want to do. It's clean up, man.

927
00:47:51.960 --> 00:48:00.639
They killed kill they had information that was gonna exposed.

928
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:04.280
The CIA and FBI is involved with in not just

929
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.880
the murders but the cover up well.

930
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.599
And it specifically talks about Mary being part of the

931
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:12.719
MK ulture program, which I think would have put her

932
00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:15.800
in the league of socialites, right, that's climbing into bed

933
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.679
with high political figures in order to soak information from them.

934
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:22.400
So they would be terribly concerned about what she knew

935
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:24.719
if she wasn't. Did you say she was a mistress

936
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:29.280
of JFK. Yes, So yeah, she's a mistress and not

937
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:33.000
a mistress, she's a plant. So there's physically sending these

938
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:35.400
women in to do these things and then turn around

939
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.280
killing them for what they knew possibly could tell somebody

940
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:41.320
else it's disgusting. Anyways, I thought I was going to

941
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:43.360
make it to the last of this cipher stuff, and

942
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.199
I did not. So we'll pick up at the cipher

943
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:48.599
stuff next week. Hopefully I don't get any more great

944
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.599
research about current history and things that keep taking us

945
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:55.079
into the future.

946
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:57.559
But I just thought these were some interesting points.

947
00:48:57.320 --> 00:48:59.480
To show that the mom and all of this stuff

948
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:03.920
is still very very well alive and running among.

949
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:04.960
Yeah, it's still going.

950
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:08.440
And I believe that Erica was in California as well,

951
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:11.719
right here in California.

952
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:16.159
Yep, so many last minutes.

953
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:17.199
Yep.

954
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:20.519
Now can you hear me?

955
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:23.920
Yeah, I can hear you.

956
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:24.320
Oh.

957
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:27.039
I was gonna say I think that Erica Erica was

958
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.079
a plant for Charlie. She was sent to him.

959
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:32.400
I wouldn't doubt it. And I've been hearing a lot

960
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:32.719
about that.

961
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:38.559
Yes, sends to be some very interesting things, and if

962
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:40.599
I wanted to fast forward to the future, we'd cover it.

963
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:42.639
But I just haven't really tried to climb into any

964
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:44.960
of that. We just know that these operations are continuing

965
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.360
and ongoing. This is not something from the past. This

966
00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:52.039
is mob is not an old age issue or uh.

967
00:49:53.000 --> 00:50:01.360
I don't know Sucubis on Society, the Charlie kirk Way more.

968
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:04.679
All right, you guys, you have a wonderful valance weekend

969
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.079
and I will see everybody next Friday.

970
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:09.039
Take care and have a great week too.

971
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:13.599
I'll see you soon too, Yes, mondays okay, sounds good.