Aug. 23, 2024

1975 A Year of Murders and No Communications

1975 A Year of Murders and No Communications

Jack moves to North Highlands, California, and is still fighting for his benefits, but takes a job at Cameron Park Shell that doesn’t last but a few months before he leaves on a Work Comp Claim. Doctors say he seems fit for work, but that is not on...

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Jack moves to North Highlands, California, and is still fighting for his benefits, but takes a job at Cameron Park Shell that doesn’t last but a few months before he leaves on a Work Comp Claim. Doctors say he seems fit for work, but that is not on Jack’s agenda. Last murder is November 1974 and last communication was December 1974 as well. Next murder takes place in July 1975 which has given a nice break for Jack to do some traveling and possible scouting.

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Good Morning, True Seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.

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I'd like to from Nolan del Campo to the show today.

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Good morning, Inette, Good morning.

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You've had a busy week, he said, Court every day

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every day today, and you had two wins, two wins

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yesterday just yesterday, getting justice, getting justice. And I'd like

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to welcome Harriet Souchet to the show.

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Yes Good morning from fall like weather, Lake County, Yay.

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I know, I'm wondering if we think we're going to

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heat up again like our Indian summer that we know

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we move into September. But it seems very nice today.

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Well if it does for three days next week, I'm okay.

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But the rest let's take fall.

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So you already know what Wednesday. Okay, I was just

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gonna say, so you already know we're going back into

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the heat. Thanks for depressing me. Whatever I am. I'm

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gonna get all the use I can out of these

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summer tops until I can't anymore. So some of the

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laundry and research that I have here just a couple

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of things from YouTube and at Midnight Ventures mentioned a

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year ago. This channel is grossly underrated. YouTube and subs

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are both at fault. Sure this is content everybody has

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seen before, but it is still entering or entertaining to

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watch it. If you haven't seen it lately, aren't interested

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in the zodiac case. So clearly, either I don't have

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something set up right on my YouTube that is allowing

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them to search and find me correctly, or what they're

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saying is that somebody else has evolved in an algorithm

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that is keeping it suppressed. Either way, I still find

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people saying that today, which is why I brought this

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particular post back from over a year ago, because I'm

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sure I've already covered it. But I did do some

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admin work on my YouTube channel and hopefully that picks

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up some more views and some more pathways for people

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to find me. I also got one from somebody at

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Tigers Are Forever. It's so weird seeing my family from

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back then, so I'm totally intrigued. Who is this person?

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Who which which ones are their family? Yeah, and Tigers

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Are Forever kind of gave me that Tiger King feeling.

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So we'll see how how functional or dysfunctional this becomes.

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I have somebody miss miss his channel saying I'm curious,

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why don't you think the guy who said his father

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is the Zodiac Killer is not legit? He after being adopted,

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finds his dad and evidence that his dad is the

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Zodiac picks match to the t and writings too, So

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what about that case do you reject? Well, missus channel,

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if you don't tell me what the case is or

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who it is that you're looking at, I can't rightly

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tell you anything about it and how I feel about it.

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But I did a no, no, yill no, because it's

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saying this person was adopted and then found his father,

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so as if he never knew his father, and then

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I just I don't know, I don't know. Well that

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was well except for son, right, and he knew who

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Jack was from you know day well from the time

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he was four on and I responded, I don't know

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who you're referring to, but if I'm doing a podcast

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as a handwriting expert on a suspect, Jack Terrence, why

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would I put stock in any other person. I've come

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writing exams on other suspects and done fit the bill,

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no matter who claimed the suspect was legit. In fact,

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just recently on my Facebook channel that it that covers

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the hit the Road Jack, I had an individual throw

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up some handwriting of what they say is somebody named Golden.

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Do you know who Golden is?

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Harriet, No, just keep on coming up with crap anyways,

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go on, I.

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Know, well, so anyways, they had san Fran written by Golden,

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and then above that san Fran was purportedly written by Zodiac.

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And while neither of those handwritingst home for me as

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far as a comparison were concerned, I noted that they

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were both on lined paper, and I laughed. I said,

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I don't recall Zodiac ever writing san Fran on lined paper.

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If he wrote san Fran, it was because it was

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on an envelope and there were no lines. So I'm

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not sure where this person got their evidence attempt. And

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it was funny because I guess they didn't realize who

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they were talking to, because when I said, from an

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expert's point of view, I do not see the similarities.

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Please explain, She's like, well, are you an expert? No?

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No, stab it?

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You know communication in sixty years worth of a man's

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life an expert though, don't rely on me. Yeah. Anyways,

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So we did talk start talking about some Finland murders,

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which I didn't realize at first, other than one of

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the YouTube commenters had indicated that this is something I

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thought was closely connected. I did find that connection and

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what it was that made me actually look at those

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which was that the SLA manuscript. So from the the

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Simianese Liberty Libertarian Army, Liberation Army, liber.

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Liberation Army, you're gonna have a bunch of angry libertarians.

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Oh poop. The SLA manuscript was actually found in Helsinki.

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So this is why people have then turned around and

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attempted to put those murders that occurred in Helsinki together

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with the zodiac. I am looking at right, so I'll

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have to go back and find out when I want.

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I feel like it was long after the Zodiac that

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they actually found the manuscript, meaning maybe in the two

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thousands if my memory serves me correctly. But I'll have

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to go back and figure that out. If you wrote it,

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I need to find it, That's what I'm saying. I

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need to research and find it and see if it's

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even in a written form. I have no idea. It

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was information that I read somewhere, and I'm thinking that

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it had to do with those Finland or the tax

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overseas that we were talking about last week. I'm going

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to start actually doing my second fingerprint examination this week.

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I'm very excited about that. I'm really enjoying fingerprints. I

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really wish I could get my hands on some of

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the images of the Zodiac's fingerprints, because we do once

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again have the right thumbprint of Jack Terrence, and it

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has both deltas and it has this entire thumb print

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which is absolutely to fall and I think would go

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a long way to telling us whether or not he

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is consistent with the fingerprints that they have on file.

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Now we know that the Zodiac claims to have covered

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his fingerprints with oh my goodness, with cement, airplane cement. Yeah,

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with a glue, and so I think that that's interesting

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to note that he did that because when he sent

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in his two thousand and two and two thousand and

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three letters to Tom Voynt, when he sent in his

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fingerprints as proof, all he did was actually print from

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the first knuckle down to his palm. So we got

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these areas here, but we didn't get actual fingerprints as

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if to say there were no actual fingertips involved, which

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would coincide with what the Zodiac said in his own

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letters that he covered them with airplane cements. So we'll

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see either way one day, hopefully I get that opportunity.

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A little bit more on research and news is that

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I actually got a full breakdown of the case from

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the nineteen ninety six murder conviction of my client who

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is looking for rid of Habeas Corpus as an actual

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innocent person. So I just started reading it. I did

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not have the time to go through the entire thing,

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but I'm seeing that he is putting forth a lot

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of evidence that there was its sculptory evidence that was

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withheld from the jury, including sperm found on the victim

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that was never tested and was never allowed to be

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mentioned in front of the jury, that this sperm even

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existed because they did not want the factor of her

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having been played into the case to convict him, and

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likely because that sperm would not have matched him. So

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that's how much I got out of it so far.

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I do plan on doing a segment on this once

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I get everything completely down. He not only sent me

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a brief synopsis, but he's sent me it looks like

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almost an inch worth of pleadings and filings and evidence

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that he has, which is going to be extremely interesting

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to read. Needless to say, I also plan on doing

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a segment coming up here soon because I recently talked

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to somebody who has the Veterans Administration on voice recording

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falsifying documents or defrauding documents to deny benefits, and I

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think this goes back to what Harriet has been solving

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with the Zodiac stuff, where he is not getting the

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treatment that he needs, and maybe because he's being denied

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after the fact, they don't want to continue paying for

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things like this unfortunately either way. Also, I have four

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episodes coming up on the News, you guys. I will

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let everybody know when they're going to air. I'm extremely

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excited about it. After the induction to Who's Who, I'm

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being asked to do some interviews, so this will be interesting.

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Hopefully I'm going to do some on my career and

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then also do some on this Zodiac channel as well.

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Oh ready to go girl?

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Well, oh and here I wish you. I sent you

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this envelope, Harriet, so you know what it looks like

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in person. But we were all talking about the Washington

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two cent stamp that Harriett says, the solves is what

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Jack is consistently looking for because it holds the remedy

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to the MK Ultra brainwashing or maybe the effects of

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the drugs used in that program, and this is the

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way that he's supposed to get his head straight. So

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I wanted everybody to see that this was a nineteen

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fifteen letter that I examined and to the best of

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my ability, off of photos and high resolution scans, was

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able to literally authenticate the stamp, the time frame of

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the stamp, the postmark, the postmark being that from New

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York of the time frame of nineteen fifteen. We see

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that they're using a quill and ink NIB type system

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because we watched the heaviness of the ink deplete as

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the author continues to write, and then when they have

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to dip and bring in more ink to continue writing.

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We see the thickness develop again. The colors were of

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the timeframe. The writing is in a new Russian basically

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that occurred or took place and became established in nineteen eighteen.

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But those that were actually lobbing for this new script

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was they were using it previous to it actually being adopted.

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And this individual was evidently part of that communist movement,

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which I wasn't sure if communism wasn't just something they

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made up as a reason they hate people before they

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could yeah, before they can hate races, right, they needed something.

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So if you were a communist, we hated you. I

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guess kind of thing. I don't know, but can adopt

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this gentle quickly.

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About the stamp, Yeah, you have the sideway, you have

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the side view of that stamp. The one that Jack

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is looking for is pull face and it says seventeen

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thirty two seventeen ninety nine. But either way, I would

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not live the face of that stamp because probably we

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don't know. Okay, don't do it the same colors?

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Okay, so continue, So so I'm looking for a drink

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your soul. But yeah again, Nolan if I lick it,

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it makes it mine, all right, So then I had

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to continue looking for this Washington two cent stamp you're

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talking about. Then all right, well that's okay, so in

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spring or summer. Oh, and that brings me back to

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old news, because we had discussed the Minnesota murders from

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September second of nineteen seventy four, and my assertion at

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that point in time was that this was a possibility

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of Jack actually traveling to Cotton, Minnesota in order to

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scow out his new property. I have mentioned, though, that

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I don't have solid evidence of Jack bean in Minnesota

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until October nineteenth of nineteen seventy six, So that puts

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a just over a two year mark, which is really

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kind of outside the boundaries of when I would expect

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Jack to be scouting for a place to live. But

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I really don't know at what point in time in

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nineteen seventy six that he moved there. And I want

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to say that we have evidence in here that he

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is still having doctor's appointments in February March, so maybe

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spring summertime he actually moved of seventy six, just over

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a year. Either way, I still think all is possible,

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because we're going to continue on with the murders on

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that side of the country as California watches our murderer

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actually go away and unsolved murders actually actually diminish. So

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spring and summer of nineteen seventy five, we have a

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picture from Nora's photo album with her handwriting on it

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that says the house on San vincent Way, North Highlands, California.

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So now they are renting instead of owning. So they've

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moved from Mount Auckham, where they owned twelve or so acres,

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to North Highlands. I just I can't make any sense

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of that.

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We go there anyway?

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Yeah, who moves from mountainous pine trees and plenty of

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places to Rome. You could send the kids out on

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the acres for hours to a duplex. It looks almost

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like a duplex, but to a house in North Highlands.

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Is that mclan air Force Base was still open at

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that time?

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Very good point?

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Wanted an air force base?

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I don't know, very good point because I think he

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was purportedly sick during some of these times. Do her

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shows nineteen seventy five Jack and Family leaving Mount Aukham

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for Sacramento California. These pictures actually coincide and bolster that

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statement with the movement. Jack shows to be bedridden. So

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here he is bedridden March to June of nineteen seventy five.

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But at this point time he's also attempting to obtain

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another work comp case against Cameron park Shell, So notwithstanding

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the fact that the doctor's visits, but the doctors don't

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really believe him, and we've talked a little bit about that,

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but I think I have more in continuing reports. Jack

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is obviously having trouble remembering when his brother died, because

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we see on the back of a picture that he

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names Charles Arthur Terrence date of birth or date of death,

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he's unknown seventy five or seventy six, which I thought

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was extremely interesting and that might make him I want

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to say, this particular writing sequence was somewhere in the

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eighties or so, so this is still quite some time

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out before his brother, well his brothers died, but he

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isn't actually journaling or putting this information down, I think,

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until a much later date. Let's see, So Torrance, California

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is where Charles Terrence lived, and that's midway exactly between

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Gaviota and Poway, which is two major locations for this

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killer and his brother I think would be the same.

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So I know that some of these things in Gaviota

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are being laid on the Golden State Killer. I want

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to talk some about that. At the same time, Poway

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was also another place of unsolved murders, and if Charles

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Terrence had been living here that entire time in Torrance, California,

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it gives a home base for Jack.

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March.

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What's that, Charles Nce and Torrence. Yeah, that's a tongue twister.

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Somebody's bound to misspell that. On March thirteenth, in nineteen

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seventy five, Jack begins working for Cameron Parkshell, So we

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still have him, like I said, during the early springtime

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in the Sacramento, California area, despite claiming that he has

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been disabled and in bed from March to June nineteen

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seventy five, the February twenty seven to seventy six report

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shows that he was supposedly bedridden, but I show that

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he started working for Cameron park Shell at this time,

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So everybody pick which one he's lying about and go

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with it. Many of the jobs for these underground employees

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are medium no one would miss them from like a

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gas station should they have to up and take off.

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So when I read the Dear Jane letters, it talks

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about some of the gas stations that were involved in

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positions for people like in the CIA or Secret Service

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or whatever. Their position is that they're there manning until

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they need them to do something for them. And those

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gas stations were standard oil shell. So we have Cameron

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Parkshell as one of Jack's jobs and Exxon as the

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attributors to this employee pool of hired killers. On April

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twenty third of nineteen seventy five, the San Francisco Examiner

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runs the story that Sonoma County murders were all committed

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by one person and that they could be linked to

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the Zodiac. On May twenty first, nineteen seventy five, Jack

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begins to see begins seeing a chiropractor for his back injury,

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supposely acquired at Cameron Parkshell. So he goes from working

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in March to being bedridden at some point in March

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to June, and in May. In the mid May he

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starts seeing a chiropractor for it. Between May and September

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of nineteen seventy five, Jack supposedly seeing that chiropractor frequently

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for both upper and lower back pain. So that would

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put him if he's visiting this chiropractor in the California

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area through September of nineteen seventy five. June of nineteen

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seventy five, though we see the print date of a picture,

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So Jack has visited Flova in Texas, and all I

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really have is the print date. So at some point

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before June of nineteen seventy five, he did make a

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trip out of California to Texas. And per the two

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to twenty six seventy six report that Jack is suffering

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from an industrial accident that occurred on June of nineteen

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seventy five, this coincides with the picture of Flova in

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Texas printed June of nineteen seventy five. This means, like

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I said, he must have visited at some point previous,

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maybe even previous to the injury. I have no idea.

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He's making it real quick. Let me just finish this

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one line. Let me just let me just Harriet, let

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me finish this one line. Maybe to claim to work

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comp for both now Cameron Parkshell and Lake Tahoe City. Lennon,

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So his attorney's going after both previous employers. Go ahead.

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Oh, I was just going to say, that's perfect timing

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that he would be able to sneak out and on

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a trip and get up to do his his execute

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order of Sam g and Kanna around. I think it's

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June thirtieth because he's in that area. He's definitely outside

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of California, but he's in that area then, and then

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of course he would have the timing to go down

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to Texas. So that's the perfect timing right there.

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Well, and I note that there's no murders during this

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time either, So while he's got all of this going

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on with work comp and working and things, we see

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that we're void of any type of unsolved murders that

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are taking place as well. In fact, the next thing

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that we actually find is on March eleventh of nineteen

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seventy five. I am completely out of order with that March.

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That should have gone in there, that should have gone

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just one step before. Last scene July eleventh of nineteen

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seventy four was Deanna Hooper, and she is now being

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found in March eleventh of nineteen seventy five. And they

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have some photographs here and some information in regards to

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her death. I think and she was the one that

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was partying in the area of Mayor Island shipyard. And

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this is why some people's theories is that the Zodiac

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must have been stationed at Mayor Island.

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Yeah, that's a really weird picture. Makes her look like

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she has a really long neck.

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Yeah, they didn't quite get the shading correctly. That would

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show you the differentiation between her shoulder. The one to

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the right looks a little bit better as far as

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that goes, guys. Yeah, anyways, this information comes from zodiacsciphers

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dot com. That brings us into what we do see

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as the first murder is July twenty fourth, nineteen seventy five,

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Barbara Colby and Venice, California, shot to death walking to

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her car with a friend who died after giving a

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description of the shooter. There was no attempt to rob them,

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but from what I can tell, and I think this

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was a Wikipedia search. Colby starting her acting career in

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the theater following a performance in Six Characters in Search

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of an Author in nineteen sixty four. She moved a

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Broadway with a debut in The Devils the following year.

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Throughout the rest of the decade, she appeared in such

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plays as Under Milkwood, Murder in the Cathedral, Deer Liar,

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and A Dolls House, and garnered fine reviews for her

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Portia in her portche in Julius season in nineteen six

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sixty six. Her first important television role was in the

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first season of Colombo. You guys, I thought that one

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was interesting.

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Umbo.

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I got Columbo anyways.

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I know, in an episode titled Murder by the Book.

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In nineteen seventy one, she played many support guest roles

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on such established shows as The Odd Couple, McMillan and Wife,

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The FBI Medical Center, Kung Fu, and Gun Smoke. It

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looked like she was just returned to the classes off

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Broadway Let's see two films. Street Wise. Prostitute in an

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episode of The Mary Tyler Moore Show led to an

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appearance in the subsequent episode. In nineteen seventy five, Colby

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appeared as a new regular player on the Mary Tyler

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Moore Show spinoff Phyllis, starring Chloris Leachman. Colby, who had

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appeared with Leachman in the TV movie A Brand New

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Life in nineteen seventy three, was Cassis Leishman's boss, Julie Erskang,

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the owner of a commercial photography studio. So basically her

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and her partner, whoever it was that she was walking

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down the street with, we're both killed with No, it's

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still unsolved at this point. Venice California puts us back

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down inside of uh that southern California area, like we

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were just talking about with Torrance, California. Correct, Nolan, Yes,

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you know what. Yeah, So if if Charles did in

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fact die in nineteen seventy five, this could be a

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proximity murder where Jack happens to be in town when

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his brother is ill. Who knows. I don't put anything

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past these people.

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Why would he not know the year his brother dies

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that that's just oddly now ten years in.

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The past, exactly exactly so well, and like I said,

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that looks to me to be his older writing. So

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when he's older, like his late sixties seventies, he may

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have been yeah, yeah, maybe he was trying to bring

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that back at that point. I do see that he

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does a eulogy for one of his brothers, but I

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want to say that I think it was Dawn. We'll

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know when we get there. Either way, it's pretty far

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into the future, I want to say, in eighties or nineties,

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so it gives us some personal life based on her.

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And so the two people, Colby and calling James Kiernan,

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were walking to their car following an acting class in Palms,

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Los Angeles, California, when they were shot inside a parking area.

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The murders occurred sometime after the first three episodes of

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the upcoming TV series Phyllis had been filmed. Colby was

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instantly cute killed, but Kiernan was able to describe the

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shooting to the police before he died of his wounds,

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but they don't give any information. Kieran said that he

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did not recognize the two men who shot them, so

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obviously there's two people involved, and that the shooting had

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occurred without warning or provocation. It was normal for Colby

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and classmates to congregate in the parking lot after acting

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class and talk. Kiernan told him instigators. They were approached

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by two black men in a light colored van and

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were each shot once, so that it sounds obviously odd,

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but I've seen several of these crimes where they've attempted

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to put pin the crimes on an African American or

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a black male in that particular case. So I'm wondering

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if this information is truly accurate and what Kiernan actually

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gave the police as information. The police said there was

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no attempt to rob the pair and concluded it was

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randomly drive by shooting. That's not a randomly drive by shooting.

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Those two statements conflict each other. I mean, Kiernan says

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that they were approached by two men in a light

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colored van. Let's see, wait a minute, where was that

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at shot inside? Did not recognize the two men who

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shot them. Kieran said it was normal they were approached

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by two black men. So being approached by two black men,

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thank you. So even the two statements inside of this

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particular Wikipedia post is contradicting what happens. So you have

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to hold very little truth in what we are reading

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because only the only law enforcement and whoever Kiernan spoke to,

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knows the absolute truth. It says. At the time of

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her death, Colby was separated from her husband, Bob Levitt,

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son of ethel Merman. Could there be a reason. While

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the first three episodes of the first season of Phyllis

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were her final works, all released in September of nineteen

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seventy five. Her final appearance to be released was in

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the TV movie The Ashes of Missus Reasoner, aired in

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January nineteen seventy six. Colby's immediate survivors include her mother

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and her half sister, So that's what we had on her.

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Then our next one comes into play with Deborah Carrick

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August seventeenth, but before August twenty sixth, nineteen seventy five,

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So maybe this is another case of somebody being held.

459
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It says she was hitchhiking and riding the bus from

460
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:06.119
Maryland to California, visiting national parks on the way. Maryland

461
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:09.960
had been the latest strikes up to nineteen seventy two

462
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:13.640
seventy three by the DC Freeway Phantom. She was last

463
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:17.759
seeing August seventeenth at the Flamingo Motel and Flagstaff, Arizona.

464
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:22.839
We do coincidentally have Jack and Flagged Staff, Arizona, but

465
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:28.079
not until is that ninety in the nineties pariot it

466
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:31.480
is nineteen ninety three. Yeah, yeah, I want to say

467
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:33.680
that that's about right, and she planned on going to

468
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:36.400
the Grand Canyon the next day. We've seen pictures of

469
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:38.599
Jack and Nora at the Grand Canyon, So these are

470
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:42.559
obvious routes that Jack has traveled. August twenty six some

471
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:45.119
of her belongings in ID was found near the intersection

472
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.200
of Highway one oh one and Mark West Springs Road

473
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:51.400
near Santa Rosa, California. So I'm thinking that she was

474
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.079
attributed to the Santa Rosa hitchhiker murders. Did you have

475
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:55.680
any information on Deborah Carrick.

476
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.680
No, but she hung Gracemiss list as a Zodia victim,

477
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.880
if I remember right, And it's very interesting just off

478
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:08.200
the tent you said August twenty sixth, that's the date

479
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:13.359
of Arthur Lee Allen's birthday. So I think there's a

480
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.960
connection there. But I don't think Jack killed her. But

481
00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:20.440
she's connected somehow to the others that became victims that

482
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:24.599
and it's usually drugs and people owed money and they

483
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:28.880
sold the kids, et cetera. So but that's my basics

484
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:33.960
on that. So anything that's rock Racemiss lives needs to

485
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:37.680
be decoded so.

486
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.039
Well that I can always send you this information. September ninth,

487
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.880
body is found inside a canyon of the Little Colorado

488
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:46.119
River off Highway sixty four, which is halfway between Cameron

489
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:49.559
and Grand Canyon National Park, which did not make any

490
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:54.160
sense to me because between Cameron and Grand Canyon National Park. Oh,

491
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:58.519
I'm sorry, it says the body is found, but the

492
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:02.000
other information though, says that her.

493
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:06.839
Personal belongings near Santa Rosa is them all the way

494
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:07.759
to Santa Rosa.

495
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:13.599
Because if you were Jack traveling, okay, from one location

496
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:16.079
to the next, let's say she was abducted at the

497
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:22.160
Grand Camp. Well, her belongings were found.

498
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.440
There's so much that I've seen where bodies were being

499
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:29.400
I've got them lately, bodies being transported or victims being

500
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:33.640
transported across state lines all the way into California. So

501
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:35.519
you know, that's the one that I have to get to.

502
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.519
And we've seen that with Sharp and gall they believed

503
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:46.759
that they were actually no abducted. Their apartment was in Albany,

504
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:50.079
New York, but their dead bodies were found in Los Angeles, California.

505
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:53.359
Either way, like like Nolan had mentioned, we've got a

506
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:57.000
body between Cameron and Grand National Park, and we've got

507
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:01.440
belongings found on Highway one oh one near Santa Rosa, California.

508
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:04.839
And we know that ultimately her goal was California. So

509
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:06.799
let me read a little bit about what they say.

510
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.759
On August eighteenth, Deborah left her hotel with intention to

511
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:12.160
visit the Grand Canyon. On the very same day, the

512
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.160
murder of a young man took place nearby off of

513
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.160
Highway one eighty and Kendrick Park. The man was killed

514
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:21.279
for his car, and the suspects were later apprehended and convicted.

515
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:23.759
These same men would later to go on to claim

516
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.240
they were also involved in the murder of Carrick, but

517
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.279
then would soon recant these statements. I would find that

518
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:32.880
interesting if if they attempted to take credit for it,

519
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.079
because how would they have then ended up in Santa

520
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.240
Rosa and still have been caught for the murder of

521
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.000
this man they stole the car from. It is unknown

522
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.400
whether or not Deborah actually made it to the Grand Canyon,

523
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:44.960
being able to check it off her list of national parks.

524
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.119
She was not spotted again in Arizona or anywhere along

525
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.519
her route home to California. On August twenty six the

526
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.920
handful of her belongings, as well as her ID would

527
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:56.759
be discovered in Santa Rosa, California, at the intersection of

528
00:31:57.079 --> 00:31:59.559
Highway one oh one in Mark West Springs Road about

529
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:03.240
thirty mine of her final destination of Sebastopol. This is

530
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:06.000
the exact same location that the bodies of four other

531
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:08.839
murdered women would be left around this time period. So

532
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.720
we've got somebody dumping her belongings around four other murders

533
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:18.319
that's involved with the Santa Rosa hitchhiker murders. This issue

534
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.119
clues Yeah, yes, it's.

535
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.039
I might be the same person that killed these other people,

536
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:26.039
basically right.

537
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:28.359
And that's what we find with the League City field

538
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:33.920
of deaths and the the Tim Miller League City and

539
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:37.720
I forty five killings, the Galveston killings, is that a

540
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:41.079
consistent return to the same area where these bodies were.

541
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:44.599
On September second, four of Deboras travelers checks would be

542
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.119
cashed at a bank. However, these checks were cashed by

543
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:50.160
a mail and the signatures were forged. I wish I

544
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:55.000
could get my hands on those. When investigators arranged arrange

545
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.759
these checks in numerical order, the checks were being cashed

546
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:01.880
at banks heading from north to south from Colorado. The

547
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:04.680
next day, on September third, three more checks would be

548
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.920
cast at a bank in Albuquerque, New Mexico. We definitely

549
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:12.359
have Jack traveling constantly through New Mexico lots of stories

550
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:17.319
from Dennis and in Nora's diary that actually puts Jack

551
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:21.279
traveling through those areas. On September ninth, Debra's body would

552
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.359
be discovered in a side canyon of the Little cat

553
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:27.000
Colorado River on Highway sixty four. This area is about

554
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:30.559
halfway from Cameron, Arizona to the Grand Canyon. It appeared

555
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:33.240
that Deborah had been dead for about three weeks, with

556
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:35.839
the cause of death being from blunt forced trauma to

557
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.799
her head. The body was fully clothed, minus her shoes

558
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:42.160
and socks that had lied nearby, and investigators were unable

559
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:44.759
to tell if any sexual assault had taken place. Her

560
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.839
body would be identified through dental records, so an apparent

561
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:56.039
murder with no sexual assault involved. In September nineteen seven,

562
00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:59.160
what's that I'm.

563
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:04.960
Seeing CIA Intel community. That's all cryptic information code? Oh

564
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.680
my god. Anyways, well, I'll.

565
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.400
Send over what I have to you. Yeah, I'll send

566
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:12.079
over what I have to you. But it looks like

567
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:14.920
the killer wanted to make sure Like you guys said

568
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.400
that there was some clues left behind, and the Zodiac

569
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.239
has definitely stated he's left clues at the scenes of

570
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.559
his crime. So we see that the ice blue Chevy

571
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:26.159
Biscayne is being sold by Nora on September third of

572
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:30.360
nineteen seventy five. This might literally be and I don't

573
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.519
know where it was sold at. I just have a

574
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:35.519
copy of the title that is signed. So whether or

575
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:38.800
not this is them already over in Cotton, Minnesota when

576
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:42.719
or they're selling it in order to facilitate that move,

577
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:44.679
one of the two things are going on here. But

578
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.880
we do now see that they're getting rid of assets,

579
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:50.920
and they've already sold Mount Auckham and they moved into

580
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.960
a place to rent. So maybe Jack had planned and

581
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:57.840
scouted Minnesota much earlier than we anticipated based on his

582
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:02.519
collective moves. As they sell off all of their assets.

583
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:07.400
September eleventh of nineteen seventy five, we have Claude Snelling

584
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:11.079
in Vicelia, California, discovered a mass intruder in his home

585
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:14.920
trying to kidnap his daughter. Claude was shot and killed.

586
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.800
He's a journalism professor at the College of the Sequoias.

587
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:20.880
And of course this is similar to some of the

588
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:25.320
other home breakings that we see in Dagnan class, the

589
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:28.840
John Benny Ramsay case and others where they were stolen

590
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:31.920
from their home or killed inside their home, which appeared

591
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:35.760
that the suspect actually knew the layout of the home

592
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.119
in order to be able to go directly into that

593
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:41.320
room and obtain the victim he was looking for. This

594
00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:44.639
shows basically some ransacking that's going on, which really kind

595
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.360
of steps foot into the East Area rapist, the Golden

596
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:50.639
State killer, and the Visalia ransacker, which has all been

597
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:56.079
laid on DiAngelo. I thought it was interesting to note

598
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.639
so when people think that I might be a little crazy,

599
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:02.119
putting all of these different together as one person, we

600
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:06.320
can see how they have collectively placed many crimes on

601
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:12.000
James Dan James dant with D'Angelo. We're coming up on him. Anyways.

602
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.519
Let me read a little bit about what they are saying.

603
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:18.000
That Visalia ranstacker had been breaking into homes for over

604
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:20.800
a year when he targeted the residence of Claude Snelling,

605
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:23.599
a journalism professor at the College of the Sequoias, on

606
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:26.800
the night of September eleventh, nineteen seventy five. It's not

607
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.559
clear whether the killer knew Snelling, although the arrest weren't

608
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.639
for D'Angelo offers a few tantalizing details well we would

609
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:39.400
like to see that, you guys. I really By nineteen

610
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.719
seventy four, DiAngelo attended a police academy for two hundred

611
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:45.920
hours at the King's County Public Safety Academy. I wish

612
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:48.519
I knew how long that two hundred hours last. I

613
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:54.559
mean literally, if we just even did map, what's that I.

614
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:56.360
Was going to say? There could be a month, or

615
00:36:56.360 --> 00:36:59.400
it could be a year. I mean, it's just ours,

616
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:00.320
I know.

617
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:02.360
And if you did eight let's say you did eight

618
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:07.199
hours a day, the calculations for that puts it around

619
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.519
in about fifteen days. That's not very long. So when

620
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:13.760
they say two hundred hours, this is what irritates me

621
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:16.360
about the statistics in the news. When you say something

622
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:19.599
like two hundred hours, it makes it literally impossible for

623
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:23.079
an individual to completely understand the breadth of the width

624
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.400
of the time frame that he's spent there. When two

625
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:27.880
hundred hours, if he's doing eight hours a day, is

626
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:31.800
literally only fifteen days. So how long are they really

627
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:33.920
seeing that he was there? Right?

628
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:38.280
That's yeah, show us the receipts, show us the paperwork, come.

629
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:42.400
On, right. The King's County Public Safety Academy, it notes,

630
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:46.000
was held on campus of the College Koyas the over

631
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:49.960
one hundred residential burglaries into Larry County reclustered on either

632
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.480
side of the College of the Sequoias. The warrant calls

633
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:56.039
it the epicenter Drainage ditches connected many of the neighborhood's

634
00:37:56.039 --> 00:37:59.079
ideal for prowling and for getaways, another trademark of the

635
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:03.599
Golden State killer. I just find it hard to grasp now.

636
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:06.559
Don't get me wrong. We've seen plenty of established law

637
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:12.719
enforcement officers become violent suspects, right like the history of

638
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.239
but usually you've already gotten into that or you've been

639
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.159
rejected from becoming a police officer, so you go on

640
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:21.559
your little I'm going to show them I'm going to

641
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.719
do a crime that I can get away with, right

642
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:27.079
the mentality behind I'm going to go do two hundred

643
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.719
hours at the safety Academy to become a police officer. Meanwhile,

644
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:34.719
I'm out running a robbing over one hundred people, raping

645
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.239
over fifty people, killing over I think eight or ten people.

646
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:41.159
Seems like this person had a whole lot more time

647
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:45.119
on their hands than actively trying to become a police officer.

648
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:47.119
What are your guys' thoughts on that?

649
00:38:48.920 --> 00:38:51.519
Well, he did become an officer. He was an officer

650
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.639
of Auburn and I think other places.

651
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.960
That's what I'm saying. So he's where do you find

652
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:02.119
the time when you're going through schooling. I don't know.

653
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:04.199
I've been to college and I can tell you that

654
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.159
it is no easy walk in the park. And if

655
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.679
you're doing anything full time with college, you're likely not

656
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:10.480
doing anything else but sitting on a couch.

657
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:15.599
Right, Well, being an officer or a cadet is good

658
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:21.960
cover because people are going to you well.

659
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:23.599
Well yeah, but you would have to think about that

660
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:25.639
ahead of time. Now, the other side of that is

661
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:28.000
they said that there was reconnaissance going on. So not

662
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.599
only did this person commit these robberies, but he was

663
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:35.920
staking out and investigating these particular houses or places that

664
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:37.719
he was going to rob Do you know how much

665
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:38.920
time it takes to do that.

666
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:44.079
Well, that's just uh, perhaps it's circumstantial evidence that maybe

667
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:44.960
he had accomplices.

668
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:50.960
Well, and to day with the East Area rapist, they'd

669
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:53.960
only indicated that the men had been tied up to

670
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:58.800
watch their significant other be raped, but that man would

671
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:05.840
have been able to state there was a second person involved. Rights.

672
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.800
I'm just saying that there were statements early on before

673
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:14.199
he got completely arrested, that there were there were other

674
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:18.280
people in the room, but anyways, they just had that.

675
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:21.000
Yeah, that yeah, that's that's some crap right there. Basically

676
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.880
on the press release they discussed the micro penis that

677
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:27.039
the East Area rapist had, and I thought, easy, peasy,

678
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:31.800
just take a picture of his junk? Did I do

679
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:35.719
your funny bone there? Knowing? Okay? So if if it

680
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:37.880
was as easy as taking a picture of his drunk,

681
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:41.440
They then did a press release stating that they had

682
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:45.559
gotten the warrant to take that picture of DiAngelo's junk.

683
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:49.039
And immediately following that, I began hearing the press release

684
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:51.920
you're talking about Harriet saying that, oh he must have

685
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.039
had a partner. Why because he didn't have the micro

686
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:58.320
penis that all of the fifty sum victims declared that

687
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.599
he had. And now you guys are looking for a

688
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.159
completely different person to be involved so you can continue

689
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:06.840
to hem him up. If he doesn't have that micro penis,

690
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:09.880
then why is he the one listed for for these

691
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:13.840
particular killings? And like I said, of those fifty some rapes,

692
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.280
not one person, even men who were tied up and

693
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:19.440
made to watch. Ever reported there was a second suspect involved,

694
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:21.920
So I think there's something crazy going on there. I

695
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:22.920
just don't know what it is.

696
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:28.119
And not to mention, my point was that maybe he

697
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:32.159
had like people doing reconn and then he would go

698
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:33.840
in and do the act.

699
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:38.360
Yeah, there's stuff by himself. I think that's the longest.

700
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:42.639
The whole the whole thing here, though, is this micro

701
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.320
penis even if he went in and did the act.

702
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:48.480
If he went in and did the act, they reported

703
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:51.239
a micro penis, then where's our proof that that's exactly

704
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.599
what the angelo. I just think too much of the

705
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:58.360
important evidence was withheld and and I'm gonna I'm gonna

706
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:00.320
share some things with you that might even not your

707
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.880
socks off in regards to these cases. But I did

708
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:07.840
find a March eleventh, nineteen seventy four Vicelia Times Delta

709
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:11.199
that actually had a picture of what they call the

710
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:14.440
original nightstalker. And now this got my head up because

711
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:18.360
I thought Richard Ramirez was the original night Stalker? Am

712
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:19.960
I wrong? Or was he the second one?

713
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:21.760
No? He was.

714
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:27.119
Right, And they're saying that they are literally trying to

715
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:30.800
man was known as East Area rapist Golden State killer

716
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.800
and most notoriously, the original nightstalker. He started his criminal

717
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:40.719
career in Vicealia. So here they're saying that he's the original.

718
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:43.159
So back as early as nineteen seventy four, and I

719
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:46.880
believe the article discussed DNA testing that actually helped connect

720
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:50.400
these cases. So how then does it? Where did Richard

721
00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:55.280
Ramirez operate out of was he la are? I thought, well,

722
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:55.519
that's what?

723
00:42:57.239 --> 00:42:59.760
And then he did? He did do a brief stint

724
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:03.039
in the San Francisco San Mateo area. I I don't

725
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:06.480
know because he was rubbing people in our neighborhood. But

726
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:15.679
that was briefed. So who I've definitely followed, you know, I.

727
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.280
Get even more confused. So here we have this composite

728
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:21.920
which is definitely kind of a likeness to Joseph DiAngelo.

729
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:24.400
I knew I had that wrong. Joseph Dangelo was an

730
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:28.159
Exeter police officer in the nineteen seventies, so he's already

731
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:31.199
a police officer in the Exeter area, which means he

732
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:33.960
had to do all the work to become that police officer.

733
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:36.920
You don't know, you don't go stalking all night long

734
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:39.639
and have to show up and take tests and classes

735
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:40.360
the next day.

736
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:46.119
I just exitors nearby Celia, and they're both near Porterville.

737
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:48.039
It's the same region, right.

738
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:50.840
Well, it gets even more interesting when I started to

739
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.239
look up what I had for information on the original

740
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:57.280
night Stocker versus what's actually being portrayed in Wikipedia today.

741
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.559
So over here to the left we see the different

742
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:05.639
sketches of various suspects seen in the area of the

743
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:09.159
East Area rapists that I found interesting. We also have

744
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:11.840
the three sketches focused when they reopened the case in

745
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.000
June of twenty sixteen. It looks to me like they

746
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:17.000
just picked out the ones they thought they could attribute

747
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:22.639
to DiAngelo.

748
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:27.559
Yeah yeah, or like DiAngelo the three on the top right.

749
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.320
Right now, focus on this one over here to the left.

750
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:34.039
Not only does it have more of a likeness of

751
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:38.599
Richard Ramirez, but this was the actual face and composite

752
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:42.639
that made Wikipedia in twenty sixteen. So I've kept all

753
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.199
of my research from the years that I've been pulling

754
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:48.760
this information and this likeness and this composite to have

755
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:53.000
made Wikipedia. Wikipedia either means that we are being misinformed

756
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.440
or they really thought that the suspect and to my knowledge,

757
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.559
there was a police officer that actually chased the suspect

758
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:03.960
and the vice alia ransacking cases out of one of

759
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:06.159
the burglaries that he was committed, and he hopped on

760
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:10.159
a bicycle and purportedly took the bicycle to whatever vehicle

761
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:12.079
he had and got away. So you think that it

762
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.639
would be a more reliable sketch from the police department.

763
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:19.400
But this looks nothing like di'angelo, you guys. And this

764
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.079
was what was on the This was what was on

765
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:27.840
the Yeah, none of them really kind of looked like it.

766
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:30.079
So I was just kind of blown away. And then

767
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:33.840
when I got into the original Nightstalker once again, here

768
00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:36.679
we see this face. But then we also see, now

769
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:39.239
this is the face that Wikipedia is putting on and

770
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:43.800
in its sketches of two suspects in the maggior murders.

771
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:46.360
So it's almost as if they want a flip flop

772
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:48.159
back and forth. It was one, it was two, it

773
00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:50.559
was one, it was two. I don't know where they

774
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:53.199
got the information that was two. Because the Maggiora murders

775
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:56.960
say a young couple, twenty one year old Ryan Keith Maggiori,

776
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:00.039
a military policeman at made Their Air Force base, and

777
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:03.320
his twenty year old wife, Katie Lee Maggiori were walking

778
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:06.760
their dog in the Rancho Cordova area on the night

779
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:10.119
of February second, nineteen seventy eight, near where five East

780
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:13.639
Area rapist attacks had occurred. The Maggioris fled after a

781
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:16.320
confrontation in the street, but were chased down and shot

782
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:19.480
to death. Some investigators suspected that they had been murdered

783
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.079
by the East Area rapists because of their proximity to

784
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:25.880
the attacks, other attacks and locations, and a shoelace was

785
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:29.800
found nearby. The FBI announced on June fifteenth, twenty sixteen,

786
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.199
that it was confident that the East Area rapist had

787
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:35.480
murdered the Maggyioris, and on June twenty ninth of twenty twenty,

788
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.400
Giangelo entered a plea of guilty to these murders. So

789
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:40.440
we don't get the evidence. We just get to see

790
00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:42.920
what they had to say. But like I said, if

791
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:46.039
you look over here, this is the twenty sixteen Wikipedia

792
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:49.559
page and it has a completely different police sketch and

793
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.239
it says the leaf sketch of the suspect. I just

794
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:56.800
don't know who gave that information, but we see things

795
00:46:56.840 --> 00:47:00.280
constantly changing, and I wanted to note that in this

796
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:03.840
particular original night Stocker case when they entered this information.

797
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:09.880
Let's see the crimes initially centered on East Sacramento, where

798
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:13.199
at least fifty women were sexually assaulted between June eighteenth,

799
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:16.880
nineteen seventy six and July fifth, nineteen seventy nine. The

800
00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:20.719
perpetrator was dubbed the East Area Rapist. In two thousand

801
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.639
and one, the Northern California rapes were linked by DNA

802
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:28.039
to murders in southern California. The original night Stock or

803
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:31.360
East Area rapist was never apprehended. Several suspects have been

804
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:35.360
cleared through DNA alibi and other investigative means. But in

805
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.800
this article they also stated that when they did these

806
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:41.840
DNA tests, this is when they began to develop the

807
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:49.079
DNA database that they actually used to hem up DiAngelo.

808
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.519
And then we saw in the press release of DiAngelo

809
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:56.119
them asking for the public to fund or to give

810
00:47:56.280 --> 00:48:02.920
money towards their DNA future goal of evolving the ability

811
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:06.559
to test DNA to determine whether or not somebody's involved.

812
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.679
So I see this heavy hitting thing going on with

813
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:13.679
the DNA industry over these particular crimes again makes me

814
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:17.639
question things. Let's see what time we have. We're at

815
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:20.679
N ten forty eight. So before I continue to go

816
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.320
on with any of that, I just thought that was

817
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:26.159
some very interesting information. And now we can see how

818
00:48:26.599 --> 00:48:32.079
the Internet is actually evolving to remove information, replace information,

819
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:36.039
and insert what they want people to believe and perceive today.

820
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:40.440
Is there anything you guys would like to add?

821
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:43.360
I just find this for me. I find this very interesting.

822
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.639
Is I follow the Ether Area rapist cases, all those

823
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:50.400
cases for years because anything that people thought was linked

824
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:53.679
to the zodiac, that was also one of them. So

825
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:56.760
I just wanted to say something really quick. For about

826
00:48:56.800 --> 00:49:00.320
fifteen years people were talking about a guy with a

827
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.079
bull tattoo on their arms and you know, as Easteria

828
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.239
rapist suspect, and then all of a sudden, Dangelo didn't

829
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:13.679
have it. That all went off the internet. So oh see, Okay.

830
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:15.719
This is what I'm saying you guys, And we're going

831
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:18.960
to heavily get into their desire to convict and close

832
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:21.719
cases on people and their ability to get people to

833
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:25.039
accept a plea deal to crimes they did not commit,

834
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:29.360
and this is falsifying documents. We're going to talk about

835
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:31.800
the nineteen ninety six murder case and all the things

836
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:34.719
that the DA did to secure this conviction against this guy,

837
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.360
all of the perjury that was committed, the evidence that

838
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:41.360
was withheld. So again we're just back. At this point

839
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:43.679
is do we really have the right guy? And I

840
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:45.440
only say this because, like I said, one of my

841
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:48.880
really good girlfriends has been friends with D'Angelo for more

842
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:51.280
than twelve years, working with him at Save Mark, and

843
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.000
did not ever suspect that he had this type of

844
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:58.280
mentality inside of him. That's it, you guys, That's it.

845
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.480
That's all we got. Thank everybody for being here, have

846
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:21.039
a wonderful weekend. We will see you next Friday. Bye

847
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:27.119
h