Nov. 30, 2024

Where’s Jack? New Crimes, Letter, and Solve

Where’s Jack? New Crimes, Letter, and Solve

Robert “Bob” Crane, a Hollyweird celebrity, is killed and the happenstances are nothing short of what we expect to see in this ring chaos. The Friction Tape letter is a new letter that plays quite nicely into the Zodiac Killer’s persona and what we...

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Robert “Bob” Crane, a Hollyweird celebrity, is killed and the happenstances are nothing short of what we expect to see in this ring chaos. The Friction Tape letter is a new letter that plays quite nicely into the Zodiac Killer’s persona and what we know about Jack Tarrance. Harriette has a solve on this letter too. Jack and Nora are in Texas where their son, Charles, is born before Jack moves the family back to California January 1979 where the Zodiac Killer style murders begin again.

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Good morning, and welcome back to another episode of Hit

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the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac. We have some interesting information, letters,

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new crimes and things were going to probe today. I

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would like to start by inviting back to the show

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Nolan del Campo, Good morning, everybody, Good morning, and Harriet souche.

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They Good morning Nolan and Lynette.

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Now, Harriet, I can't believe either of us didn't pick

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up on this, but Nolan informed me that last Friday

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was November twenty second, twenty twenty four, and what date

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that was. So Nolan tell us how we missed.

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It's the anniversary of the assassination of John F.

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Kennedy about fellow. I know that we talked talked last

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week Harriet about jfk in that particular podcast, but I thought,

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oh my gosh, I never even picked up on that

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or thought about it. So yes, we did do that

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on November twenty second, twenty twenty four. And then this

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episode is going to be our Thanksgiving episode, which is

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actually going to fall on Black Friday for those shoppers.

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I'm done with my Christmas shopping. I am not going

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out on that day. You can't make me, all right,

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So I'm going to start with some YouTube comments, and

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we have an Ezra Cubis, which he says, I believe.

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I remember Dennis saying that the FBI had made a

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positive DNA match between a Zodiac letter stamp and Jack's

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son or stepson that was in prison, who would have

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been a young kid at the time. To me, this

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would prove without a doubt that Jack was involved. So, Harriet,

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was it on a letter, on an envelope or stamp?

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I thought, I remember Dennas saying something about Danny Reynolds DNA.

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It was the stamp. It was a large portion of

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the stamp for the Halloween card, which apparently the only

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document that we can maybe have access to. But anyways,

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he said it was the Halloween card the stamp, and

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I think it was forty or sixty percent of the

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DNA had come back for Danny Reynolds, of all people

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who you know, was in jail at the Oh my

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god jail at the time.

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And they had Danny Reynolds DNA.

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He'd done something where they were going to need his DNA,

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I guess, and he's in prison. So he came up

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with the match. But Dennis said this, This actually came out.

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I think it's a few years earlier before he was

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able to make the official announcement. He said to me.

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He said that he was waiting forever for that, but

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that's when he was able to make the official announcement

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on his on his website, which is no longer in existence.

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See. And I was under the impression that we needed

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to obtain a sample from him because I was trying

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to discuss with Doris Reynolds at one point time, coming

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to visit her and discussing things with her in regards

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to Jack in hopes for me to obtain because I

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thought that what the FBI had said is they had

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two profiles on there. They needed one to be able

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to sort out the second, and if Danny Reynolds was

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a match, they could then remove his profile in the

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profile that was left would hopefully lead them to the

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actual killer. So I guess I was a little confused

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on that. I didn't know they had made an identification

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on him, because then the FBI told me, after I

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had discussed with Doris Reynolds coming to visit her, that

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they didn't think that I could obtain the DNA sample

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properly with the proper chain of command. And they claimed

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that they had gone down to visit Doris Reynolds, I

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guess a couple months after I had conversed with her,

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and they said they found her in a home. She

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was unable to speak, basically just lethargic. I don't know

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what had happened or what her medical situation was, but

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they indicated they weren't able to even interview he or

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talk to her because of the condition she was in.

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So and I want to say that Danny Reynolds has

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been or yeah, Danny Reynolds has been in and out

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of prison so many times, they should have his DNA

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on file, and maybe that's where they got it when

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they did that particular testament. Then why were they letting

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me go through the motion of contacting Doris and why

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were they attempting to go down to speak to her.

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If they already had this DNA's profile.

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Well maybe it was, And I'll just throw this out there.

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It was just because they wanted to get a outsider

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type of confirmation, you know, to try to get it again,

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you know, to verify what they were already had, because

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it makes it more believable. Not so, but I just remember,

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and I think I have it somewhere in the emails

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that I was exchanging many many years ago about the

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announcement that Dennis was so proud. They said that it

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came back with a huge chunk, matching the other steps

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on before him, Danny Reynolds.

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So, and then that makes me insane because I know

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that the FBI and Dennis and I all had a

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conversation amongst each other in which case Dennis was questioning

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the DNA of Denny. So Jack's biological son was purportedly

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found on a water bottle that was at the scene

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of the crime of an unsolved murder of a woman,

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and the FBI's response was, well, he could have been

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driving down the road and toss the bottle out. It

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doesn't make him the killer. But now that we have

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two sources of DNA that link back to the to

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relations and proximity to Jack. I mean, doesn't that literally

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scream we should be investigating him and only him.

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Yes, yeah, I've been saying that for you.

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That's very though, Yeah, very much more than circumstances. I'm

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a little confused. Unless, again, we're just back to Hollywear

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trying to make sure that this thing isn't solved. Well,

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that brings us back to Hollywear, because the second part

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of his YouTube message was if you watch the new

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Netflix documentary series on this Zodiac, they make a very

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compelling case Arthur Lee Allen was at least complicit in

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the series of crimes going all the way back to

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Sherry Joe Bates. The Zodiac cases may have been more

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than one killer working on a team. I believe Jack

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did the Lake Barriessa and Paul Stein murders. Well, let

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me let you in on a secret here, as rap

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Cherry Joe Bates was committed by the Zodiac killer, and

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the handwriting and the typewritten messages are all consistent and

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the same as the Zodiac killer. So unless Arthur Lee

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Allen is all that, then he's none of that. Whether

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he's complicit or not, I think that that really boils

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down to the fact that Jack knew who Arthur Lee

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Allen was. Jack also indicated he was taking flying lessons

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with a friend, and if I remember correctly, Harry, didn't

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you say that Alla flew planes?

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I'm sorry, what what is that again?

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Arthur Lee Allen?

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Yeah, it was in a pilot sizense.

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So he could have very well have been the person

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that Jack was flying with, taking lessons with, and I

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think set up the whole D. B. Cooper cape with

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So if he's complicit at all ways, because he was.

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I think he was kind of forced to go along

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and play the games, and he took the blame for

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killing Darlene Farrin and being Zodiac because it was better

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than taking the blame for being a part of the

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conspiracy as to who killed Marilyn Monroe and Robert F.

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Kennedy Senior. I can go on and on, but so

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I'm going to tell it up with him.

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I took the time to watch this documentary against my will,

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and be grudgingly stomping and kicking my feet the entire way,

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I did not see any evidence that led me to

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believe that Arthur Lee Allen was the Zodiac. In fact,

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he explicitly stated on many many occasions, sometimes crying and distraught,

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how much of a toll this has taken on him

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because he was not the Zodiac. Every time he thought

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it had quit because they cleared him, it came back

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around again because there were just jackwagons like Robert gray

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Smith and this Rita Miller. We're going to get into

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her because I'm really pissed off at her. But the

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bottom line is is this man died with a typewritten

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letter signed by him in his hand on the floor

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of his apartment that stated, I Am not the Zodiac.

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So people, let's get one thing straight here, because I'm

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really upset about this docu series. Zodiac was a boastful man,

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and a Zodiac wanted his story told. If this man

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had been the Zodiac when he died, that letter would

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have stated implicitly that he was the Zodiac and that

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he had committed those crimes. Why else, there's nobody else left.

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If he's dead and gone, there's nobody to come back onto.

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He's never going to see a day in jail. So

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this man died protesting his innocence, and I wish America

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would just get over it anyway. On hold on, Harriet,

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No one, go ahead.

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He was in Riverside at the time of the share Joe.

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But that's just I think.

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I think that I think that he did gave the rides.

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I think he was the plane ride. He he was

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the means of transportation. And if he's part of the group,

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he's part of the group. But he's certainly not the Zodiac.

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He certainly didn't kill anybody. So let's see. I basically

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just go ahead, Harriet.

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I was just gonna say really quick that author Leollen

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was Middle Saint, but he was by far not the Zodiac.

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So it looks like it's at times he had to

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go along with stuff. But you know, years later he's

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trying to say I'm not the Zodiac, but he's in

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some he's in some really weird crap. Okay, So that's

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all I'm going to say.

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It looks like I'm on the right for digital mic.

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Does that sound a better one?

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It's different If it's better, Well.

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He was saying make sure I was on the right mic,

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and it's usually defaults to my mic, so I've never

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had to actually check it. I'm going to say, this

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is the microphone array until.

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You sounded far before you sound good doubt, so.

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Then I'm not going to trip on it, all right,

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So I'm sorry, Harriet, I kind of I kind of

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lost you. What were you saying there?

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No, I was just saying really quick. I know, I've

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seen a lot of things through the Coding Jack's world

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that Arthur Lee Allen was by far no saint. He

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was into some really weird crap, and he was involved

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in some things so and more. He was, according to Jack,

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made some stamps out of Marilyn Monroe's pictures when they

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killed her for people to lick those naked pictures. And then,

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I mean, I've seen it more than one. But he's

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he's by far no saint. But he's not the Zodiac.

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He's not smart enough for it in his hand. Doesn't

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make I mean, uh yeah, Jackie's day one.

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It was he was probably born bald and lived bald

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and was always bald. Because I looked at the pictures

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and the video footage of Sherry Joe Bates time frame

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and he was bald. Then, so, folks, this is not

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the Zodiac. My gosh, he looks nothing like it. Well anyway,

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So Ezra goes on and says, why weren't these fingerprints

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compared with Jack's. I read, I read the shuffle walk

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that was walking away from sign cab was precisely Jack's shuffle. Absolutely,

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So he said, didn't Jack have a scar on his

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thumb that was consistent with the thumbprint on the cab?

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Do you know anything about a scar on on Jack's thumb, Harriet.

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All I know is that he is parts of the

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finger tips tips were missing, so and I believe that's

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in the original Zodiac by Gray Smith, where he had

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some amazing photographs. So I'm going to say that I

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don't remember a scar, but I'm remember showing some really

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really great fingerprints.

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Zodiac took great things never to leave fingerprints, so they did.

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I don't think they were the perpetrator.

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Maybe their fingerprints, but they're not the Zodiac's fingerprints.

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He said he clevered his fingers in cement, airplane cement.

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So that's basically like taking a thick super glue and

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covering your entire tip. You wouldn't have any ridges or

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fingerprints otherwise to actually expose. So I think that really

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alludes to the fact that when he sent the letters

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to Tom Voyd. He sent fingerprints in, but they're missing

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all of the tips of the fingers and it only

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covers from here down because he likely did exactly what

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Dennis had said, which was destroyed his fingertips by dipping

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his hands into acid. Either way, yeah, that's see they mashed.

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We know that. Write to me so well, if they

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had this portion of his hand, so from top knuckle

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down to the palm, then and there was any match

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in those areas, then certainly if they've got those type

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of fingerprints or something like that in order to compare

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that too. Otherwise, I think even if they have a

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thumb print, we do have Jack's military records and on

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the microfisient actually it actually shows his delta's and the

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center swirl. It has all of the ridge quality that

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we're looking forward to do a comparison if we can

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just get our hands on it. But NAP the Sheriff's

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Department has been reluctant to even work with me on

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it or even take a look at it or provide

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them for that matter. To my girlfriend who does fingerprint

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analysis and had been the fingerprint tech for the NAPA

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Sheriff's Department, either way.

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We're so reluctant, you know, because jacksd.

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It, because jack'sd and look at everything we've tied Jack too.

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You know, if Jack wasn't such a superb suspect, if

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we didn't have all of the links and the qualifying

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factors for him to be the Zodiac, then I think

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that they would definitely give us that hours that they

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gave Deborah Perez, or that they're giving to Arthur Lee Allen,

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or to many of these other fake suspects that Hollyweird

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keeps willing to produce on an annual basis. It's like

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each year they come out with another person they have

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no evidence on, they have no handwriting for, they have

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no fingerprints, they have no information, and they're just blowing

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things up to confuse America. I'm so mad at those people. Anyways,

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So he goes on to say, actually the scar was

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on the right index finger, clearly seen from the fingerprints

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taken off the cab. Dennis had said that Jack had

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the same exact scar before he dissolved his fingerprints and acid.

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Gary Stewart had claimed that his father, Earl van Bess

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was the Zodiac and had the same scar until they

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discovered it was actually on his left index finger, not

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on the right like Jack had worth trying to pull up.

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Dennis had talked about it in a blog. I believe so,

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and Dennis's blog is down. I can't really go back

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to find the things that Dennis had actually posted on

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tool website Toolbox. So that's unfortunate that once he passed

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that that came down because he was likely not paying

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the bill for it anymore. Either way, So it's on

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an index finger, not on a thumb. And Dennis claimed

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that Jack did based on what Ezra had read from

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his blog. Boy, come on now, all right, so let's

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go to the Arthur Lee Allen information. Like I said,

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I did watch this docuseries. I look to see what

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I could find that was consistent. I didn't find anything

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that I felt was consistent with the actual crimes of

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the Zodiac. And it is called This is the Zodiac Speaking.

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It is playing on Netflix. The one thing that I'm

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most upset about on this particular docuseries is the fact

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that RIEDA. Miller, the investigative journalists for I didn't even

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catch which news company, because you guys know, I believe

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they're all dirty. So it doesn't matter. By the way,

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these particular communications in regards to the All New York

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we've already gone over them. But I brought this up

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for people to see because I wanted to discuss it

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with Harriet Rita Miller actually promised not to show Arthur

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Lee Allen's face, So she's on screen in this docu

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series stating that Arthur Lee Allen agreed to do an

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interview with her, but he made her promise that he

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would not She would not show his face, so she

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agreed to pixelize his face because his concern was as

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things had died down, he didn't want his face to

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be prominent back in the news again and start getting

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hounded by individuals again because it was too stressful. Well

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this be I and yes, I said BI, I want

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to say bitch, Let me say bitch. Not only does

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she produce this segment an interview with Arthur Lee Allen

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after making the promise not to show his face, they

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pixelized his face for the first airing of it. They

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decided at a later date they were going to come

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back and remove the pixelization, and they played this interview anyways,

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still claiming and putting him forth as the Zodiac Killer,

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which absolutely floored me. How the hell do you make

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a promise to some in exchange for an interview and

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then turn around and take that promise back when you

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see it fits you. You are nothing but a money hungry,

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rating grabbing, backstabbing piece of crap that I find that

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the news is to begin with, you guys all have

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to lie or what? So anybody want to chime in

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on that?

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I was so mad.

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Yeah, keeping their promises to their sources, you know, so

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that's really an ethical of her, say the.

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Least, completely unethical. I couldn't even believe. And she's got

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this smirk on her face like she's excited and proud

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about it, Like, oh my gosh, you've just decimated this

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man's life. Throw him back up in the middle of

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the news again because you think that what everybody else

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is saying about him being the Zodiac even though she

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clearly knew that he had been cleared from handwriting, from searches,

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from fingerprints, from palm prints, from DNA, this man had

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been cleared fifteen ways from Sunday, and she's still, Oh,

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I think I just interviewed the Zodiac. You're dumb, Okay,

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you're just dumb right rant. Now that goes on with

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we already talked about he died with the letter in

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his hand, and then they talked about the cipher that

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reads and redacted. So the other part of this docuseries

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is this Connie Hensley or Connie Hensley isn't even her

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last name. Hensley was her mother's maiden names, Birdley. Allen

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took so well care of and provided all kinds of

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opportunities to because their mother was single. I think there

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was either five or seven of these kids running around.

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But he's helping this woman out on a daily basis

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with taking care of these kids, literally one of them

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who she looks like she doesn't even believe he's the Zodiac.

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She just participated in this docuseries and I don't know why,

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but she indicated that while she was living in New York,

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this letter came into the Albany Medical Center that was

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predicting their next victim, and she claimed that the coded

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cipher at the bottom contained in the name Connie Henley,

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not Hensley, but Henley, and that was so close. It

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was one miss spelling, and she figured the Zodiac misspelled,

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so the misspelling of her name. Here's what I don't believe.

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First Off, Arthur Lee Allen knew exactly the family. He's

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taking care of the family, providing for the family, taking

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these kids on trips, gives this girl a boat, yet

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he can't spell her last name. I don't buy it.

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Number two, I'm looking at the code at the bottom

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of this actual letter. It has exactly the number of

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characteristics that reads out the word Albany Medical Center. This

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is only the beginning. So this is his threat. So

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he says he's going to get her August tenth, at

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five pm when the shift change. First Off, Connie Hensley,

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which that's her mother's maiden name, not even her maiden name,

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wasn't even living on that side of New York. She

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was living a great deal of distance away. So Albany,

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New York is the target. And she's now trying to

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claim that somehow the Zodiac is insisting he's going to

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get her. I don't see her name in this anywhere

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the ciphers in my information and research, it says cipher

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redacted Albany Medical Center. This is only the beginning. Well,

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if you look down here and you count out these

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symbols at the very bottom of this letter. There's just

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enough symbols to actually make the words Albany Medical Center.

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This is only the beginning, nothing left. Did you find

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any portion of this code redacted? Harriet?

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I didn't have anything redacted, so and I even have

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the solved. We've done the show a while ago. But

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it's not saying anything about Connie Hensley.

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No, and I don't see any reaction whatsoever. So where

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is it that this redacted area that they're claiming and

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it it purportedly says her name, and if it had

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said her name and they couldn't find a Connie Henley,

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that this person didn't exist, why redact it? That makes

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no sense.

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Yeah, So I never seen a redacted version unless somebody

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like and we got to go there. They don't like

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us dot com put it on. There a tomboyt in

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his crew.

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When I saw Tom Voy is on this docuseries. Tom

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Voy is on the docuseries. This is the Zodiac speaking

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you guys. Life is giving him a hard road because

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this man looks nothing, nothing like he used to look

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when he dealt with Dennis ten years ago. So either

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things are bad for him because he is not looking good,

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or everything's kind of falling apart in that kind of stress,

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with somebody competing against your belie when you're actually delivering

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the truth, could cause somebody to have an inability to sleep,

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likely to get sick, and maybe even gain some weight

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from stress. I don't know. Anyways, another rant, so we

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don't see anyone.

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Want to see him.

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I was shocked when I had actually stepped away for

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I was doing my daughter's hair. I was doing some bleaching,

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some braiding for her, and I'd stepped away to get

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something upstairs, and when I came back down, I saw

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his face flash on the screen. But it wasn't that

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I recognized that it was him, but I was like, oh,

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dear God, is that tom Boit?

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Are you?

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Are you?

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Sings? So I had to reverse it and replay it,

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and my daughter's all, yeah, I think it is. I'm like,

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are you kidding me? And I had to kind of

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like do this little lu le Yep, yep. It's Tim

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definitely not looking the same anymore. So we don't have

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any reaction that we can tell from this image. And

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I pulled this image from your book, Harriet. I don't

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see any area where there's anything redacted. I don't see

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any extra letters that would allowed for that name to

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be told. So I'm going to rule with the fact

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that that was just completely made up by these people.

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Pipe bombs as usual? What's that?

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I said, Yes, as usual, right, so to get a

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series out of it and make some money going the

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wrong way.

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Pipe bombs were basically found at Arthur Lee Allen's house,

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and they were trying to claim that this was one

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of the reasons why he should be considered a viable suspect,

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which doesn't make any sense because the Zodiact never talked

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about pipe bombs. Guys, he was far more intelligent than that.

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He talked about schematics and diagrams for trigger mechanisms and

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other things that would help this bomb to go off.

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So I highly doubt that it was something as simple

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as a pipe bomb, let alone the fact that Arthur

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Lee Allen said that he allowed a friend to store

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some things underneath this house. Can't believe he allowed somebody

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to store bombs. That blows my mind. But he does

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seem kind of like a care free, a little dumbed

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down individual who may not have cared, but he said

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he wasn't even aware of what his friends stored underneath there,

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So he had no idea they were bombs. And I

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tend to believe that because who knows that somebody stores

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a bomb under their house and allows them to do that? Nobody? Well, no,

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ridiculous it is. So let's move on to Bob Crane

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at this point and June twenty ninth, nineteen seventy eight,

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Robert Crane, actor from Scottsdale, Arizona, gray Smith actually writes

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about his death too, So I find it interesting that

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somehow Robert Grayce Smith has made some connection between these.

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Crane frequently videotaped and photographed his own sexual escapades. During

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Front of Hogan's Heroes, Dawson introduced him to John Henry Carpenter,

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a region regional sales manager for Sony Electronics. Now we've

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got already we're talking. Sony Electronics was one of the

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cutout papers I believe in the dB Cooper Cutouts, wasn't it, Harriet?

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Yeah, I know it's an electronics company, but I believe

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so yeah, yeah.

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So Dawson is that Richard Dawson of Hogan Zero's Richard Yeah,

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game show host?

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Right, Wow, I didn't put that together. So yeah, they

458
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just said Dawson like.

459
00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:47.880
He was in Hoven Zero's.

460
00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:53.079
Gotcha Holly Weird? All right? So he was. John Carpenter

461
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.920
was a regional sales manager for Sony Electronics who often

462
00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:58.759
helped famous clients with their video equipment. The two men

463
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:01.839
struck up a friendship and begin visiting bars and nightclubs together.

464
00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:04.920
Crane attracted many women due to his celebrity status, and

465
00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:07.640
he introduced Carpenter to them as his manager. Crane and

466
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:12.640
Carpenter would videotape their joint sexual encounters. Crane's son, Robert,

467
00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:14.720
later insisted that all the women were aware of the

468
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:23.400
videotaping okay and consented to it and consented to it,

469
00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:28.240
but several claimed they had no idea that they had

470
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:31.119
been recorded until they were informed by the Scottsdale Police

471
00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:34.880
after Crane's murder. That's what I believe they didn't know

472
00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:39.359
during their friendship. Carpenter became national sales manager at Akai,

473
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:42.319
and he arranged his business trips to coincide with Crane's

474
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.279
dinner theater touring schedule so that the two could continue

475
00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:49.000
videotaping their sexual encounters. In June of nineteen seventy eight,

476
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:51.880
Crane was living in the Winfield Place Apartments in Scottsdale

477
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:56.680
during a run of Beginner's Luck at the Windmill or

478
00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:59.559
Dinner Theater. On the afternoon of June twenty ninth, his

479
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:03.079
coast Victoria and Barry, entered his apartment after he failed

480
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:05.279
to show up for a lunch meeting and discovered his body.

481
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:07.519
Crane had been bludgeoned to death with a weapon that

482
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.839
was never identified, though investigators believed it to be a

483
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:14.559
camera tripod. An electrical cord had been tied around his neck.

484
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.200
This sounds like Zodiac to me. We see so many

485
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:22.440
of these kind of murders that are unsolved. Crane's funeral

486
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:24.680
was held on July fifth, nineteen seventy eight, at Saint

487
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:28.039
Paul the Apostle Catholic Church in Los Angeles, and a

488
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:32.039
estimated two hundred family members and friends attended, including John Aston,

489
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:36.440
Aston's wife, Patty Duke, and Carol O'Connor. Paul Bearers included

490
00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:40.039
Hogan's Heroes producer Edward Feldman, co stars Robert Clary and

491
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:43.839
Larry Hovis, and Crane's son Robert. He was interred in

492
00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:49.400
Oakwood Memorial Park Cemetery in Chatsworth, California. Patricia Olsen later

493
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:53.160
had his remains relocated to Westwood Village Memorial Park in Westwood,

494
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:55.039
and she was buried beside him in two thousand and

495
00:27:55.119 --> 00:28:01.000
seven under her stage name Sigrid Valdis that failion? Heard

496
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:07.480
you giggle? Harriet? Okay, Oh you weren't giggling at Forritris Olsen.

497
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:12.240
Yeah. Well, I'm just when I heard the name and

498
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:15.480
saw the name Olson, I'm thinking, is she related to

499
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:22.079
the Frank Olsen you know, and connections? Now I don't think, Okay,

500
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:23.519
it just sound very weird.

501
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:27.079
Well in the trial. In the trial, it says that

502
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:29.880
the nineteen ninety four trial, Crane's son Robert, testified that

503
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:32.839
Crane had repeatedly expressed his desire to sever his friendship

504
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:35.279
with Carpenter in the weeks before his death. He said

505
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:38.119
that Carpenter had become a hanger on and a nuisance

506
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.799
to the point of being obnoxious. My dad expressed that

507
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:44.680
he just didn't need Carpenter kind of hanging around him anymore,

508
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:47.799
he said. Robert testified that Crane had called Carpenter the

509
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:51.240
night before the murder and ended their friendship. Carpenter's attorneys

510
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:55.079
attacked the prosecution's case as as circumstantial and inconclusive. They

511
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:57.920
presented evidence that Carpenter and Crane were still on good terms,

512
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.480
including witnesses from the restaurant where the two men dining

513
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.079
the evening before the murder. They noted that the murder

514
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.160
weapon had never been identified or found. Prosecution's camera typod

515
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.359
theory was sheer speculation, they said, based solely on Carpenter's occupation.

516
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:14.640
They disputed the claim that the newly discovered evidence photo

517
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:17.480
showed brain tissue, and alleged that the police work had

518
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:20.960
been sloppy, such as the mishandling and misplacing of the evidence,

519
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.839
including the crucial tissue sample itself. They pointed out that

520
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:27.759
Crane had been videotaped and photographed in sexual relations with

521
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.039
numerous women, applying that any one of them might have

522
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.599
been the killer. Other potential suspects proposed by defense attorneys

523
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.400
included angry husbands and boyfriends of the women, and an

524
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:39.000
actor who had sworn vengeance after a violent argument with

525
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:42.359
Crane and Texas several months earlier. Texas comes back into

526
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:43.240
play all the time.

527
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:47.119
So this Carpenter, who was actually arrested and brought the

528
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.519
trial for Crane's murder I didn't know that.

529
00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:52.799
Yeah, it says. Carpenter was acquitted, and he continued to

530
00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:55.759
maintain his innocence until his death in nineteen ninety eight.

531
00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:59.720
After the trial, Robert speculated publicly that his father's widow,

532
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:02.599
had dy Olsen, might have had a role in instigating

533
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:04.839
the crime. Nobody got a dime out of the murder,

534
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.480
he said, except for one person, alluding to Crane's will,

535
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.559
which excluded him, his siblings, and his mother, with Crane's

536
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:16.759
entire estate left to Olson. So dun dunk dune. He

537
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:20.039
repeated his suspicions in the twenty fifteen book Crane, Sex

538
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:24.359
Celebrity and My Father's Unsolved Murder. Maricopa County District Attorney

539
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:27.640
Rick romle We responded, we never characterized Patty as a suspect,

540
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:31.400
adding I'm convinced John Carpenter murdered Bob Crane. Officially, Crane's

541
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:40.480
murder remains unsolved. That was a lot out Follow the money,

542
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:43.960
Follow the money precisely so. That brings us to the

543
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:47.319
July seventh, nineteen seventy eight, friction tape letter from the

544
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.880
Zodiac mailed from Los Angeles to the San Francisco Chronicle.

545
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:54.000
We got to remember that in nineteen seventy eight, Jack

546
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:57.759
is in Texas. However, Jack has come back to California

547
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:00.240
to find Nora, and I'm not exactly sure what month

548
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.000
that happened in, but we know that he has made

549
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.759
at least one trip back to California to retrieve Nora,

550
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:08.559
who has left him and gone back to California. So

551
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:11.319
it is possible that this could be the timeframe in

552
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.720
which this letter was mail This letter was typewritten is

553
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:16.960
says I am the Zodiac and I am in control

554
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.359
of all things. I'm going to tell you a secret.

555
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.279
I like friction tape. I like to have it around

556
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:24.880
in case I need to trust someone up in a hurry.

557
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:27.839
I have my real name on a small metallic tape.

558
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.440
You see while you have it in your possession, I

559
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:32.400
want you to know it belongs to me, and you

560
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:35.279
think I may have left it accidentally. There's that little

561
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:40.480
poetic reference. I am athletic. It could be swim fins

562
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:43.480
or a piece of Scooby deer gear, but maybe you

563
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:46.680
played chess with me. I have several cheap sets in

564
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:49.480
closets all over. I have my name on the bottom

565
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:51.880
of the lid with the Scotch tape. My tape is

566
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:53.880
waiting for me all over California.

567
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:54.680
Do you know me?

568
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:59.039
I am the Zodiac and I am in control. That

569
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.920
was a whole lot. We can say that there are

570
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:03.839
a lot of words in here that are consistent. We

571
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:06.400
know that playing chess seems to be exactly the game

572
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:10.440
of the Zodiac. Having closets all over California is something

573
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.839
that I kind of attribute to Jack because he seemed

574
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:17.519
to have storage lockers all over the place. I mean,

575
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:19.839
he would just load up a storage shed and take

576
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.680
off somewhere, and I don't know if he just put it,

577
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:26.240
paid it for years in advance, or what have you.

578
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:28.799
I'm sure these storage sheds have now been absconded with

579
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.839
by somebody who's auctions because they haven't been paid for

580
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:34.240
and that information. They probably wouldn't even know how to

581
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.559
acclimate it to this case or what to do with it.

582
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:38.680
It would probably look like a bunch of junk, as

583
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:42.400
most of Dennis's and Jack's storage sheds look like. But

584
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:44.079
if you knew what you were looking for, you could

585
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:45.440
certainly find those items.

586
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:49.799
The table in Oldsville that you and dnnis had access

587
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:50.240
to at one.

588
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:54.880
Point, Yes, and he had one in Lake County where

589
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:59.279
Harriet was, and that one went up for auction as well, right, Harriet.

590
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:03.079
Yeah, and the guy tried to sell it to me

591
00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:08.359
for fifty thousand dollars and then okay, and then I

592
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:10.759
said good luck and trying to shop this around because

593
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:12.799
he was going to take it to Hollywood, and I said,

594
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.240
and I think I told him, they said they're going

595
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:17.200
to try to kill you, you know. Oh yeah, I'm

596
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:20.200
a tough guy. Anyways, it's a couple of weeks later

597
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.359
and I thought it was my three people calling me.

598
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.839
It was him. And he's practically peeing his pants when

599
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:27.839
he called me. He says, he still want to offer

600
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:30.880
the amount that you did, because I offered a small amount.

601
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:32.839
And I said, they tried to kill you. Huh. He said,

602
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.119
I was followed all the way. I mean, this is

603
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:39.559
a tough guy. So anyways, yeah, he tried to get

604
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:42.240
he tried to shop it around and all he was

605
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.880
And I said, just the same thing that Dennis told me.

606
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:48.359
He said, after what he did with DOLLIEA. He said

607
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:52.039
they were following all over the place. Anyway. So yeah,

608
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:56.240
so and I was happy to get the core parts

609
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:58.880
of what you know, used to be in the house

610
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:00.880
that was no longer there, so that was part of

611
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:01.680
the reason.

612
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:06.240
Right, So yeah, well it definitely leads us back to

613
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:08.960
the idea that well, and the tape part of it

614
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:12.559
really reminds me of the earlier murders in the forties

615
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:16.800
where he actually tried to tape or he we found

616
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:20.159
tape used in the commission of the mos of the crimes,

617
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:25.440
so this could also be a linguistic cross back to

618
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:28.840
those particular crimes. But he's saying that we're looking for

619
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:32.800
chess games with his name taped to the bottom of him.

620
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:34.760
Did you ever see anything like that in any of

621
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:36.039
Dennis's or Jack's stuff?

622
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:40.760
Harriot. I'm just trying to remember, but I think the

623
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:45.119
thing that Jack had this locker, I think it may

624
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:48.639
have had some tape on it. So because Jack was

625
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:52.440
good at making sure that things were detailed, you know

626
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:56.519
that this was this, This didn't held this, but I

627
00:34:56.599 --> 00:35:02.360
remember something like that. But yeah, it's very possible he

628
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:03.559
had it all over the place.

629
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:06.800
Well, I'm gonna just put it out here on the podcast.

630
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:09.480
If anybody else comes across any type of a storage

631
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:12.079
shed and you find anything that says Jack w Terrence

632
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:14.960
or John W. Terrence in it. Please reach out to

633
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.440
myself for Harriet Soouchet, because we'd be happy to take

634
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.719
a look at what you have. So that brings us

635
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:23.920
to your solve on this particular letter. And in this version,

636
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:27.360
I'm showing what it would typed up on a typewriter.

637
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:30.880
And Harriet, you found this from a zodiac site where

638
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.840
they had already pre typed it in a typewritten manner.

639
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:34.280
Correct.

640
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:37.559
Yeah, you know it sounded like you almost said a

641
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:39.000
bogus Zodiac site.

642
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:46.079
I agree, But isn't that what we nationally think?

643
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:51.039
Yeah, so they think that of us, saying back to

644
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:53.960
you guys at they don't like us dot com. So

645
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.320
the reason why I went looking for something because I

646
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:59.800
thought I saw it over the years. This was reminding

647
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:02.360
me that since it's a type version, it would be

648
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:06.079
like the Sergeant Lynch code, which had a lot of

649
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:08.760
small type in it. So that's what I was looking

650
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:10.760
for to get the feel of how am I going

651
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:15.840
to get the aspect of which direction to go? And

652
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:17.840
then I just went from there and it floats so

653
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.360
fast and I feel.

654
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:23.679
Like there's some definite differences in the Sergeant Lynch code

655
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:26.480
as far as the relation to the typewriter that they

656
00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:30.800
attempted to use. This typewriter that they are using to

657
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:35.280
create this letter has this lowered letter n as a nancy,

658
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:38.719
and so this one dips down in each time. And

659
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:42.039
that's how you can make an identification on typewriter. On

660
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:45.119
a typewriter and whether or not it executed or drafted

661
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.920
a particular letter is because all the keys are not

662
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:51.320
going to strike exactly the same. Keys become loose over time,

663
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.960
areas of the actual letter on the actual key become

664
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:59.079
damaged or where away, So it is going to leave

665
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:02.079
its own distinct, especially if it's a typewriter that is

666
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.119
used quite frequently. And what I'm looking at in comparison

667
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:08.199
to the Dark Sergeant Lynch letter is that the type

668
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.519
print on this particular document that they attempted to imitate

669
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:15.239
is not consistent with the deer Sergeant Lynch typewriting. But

670
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:17.360
you do have a solve on this. So that's what

671
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:20.639
we came here to hear. Well, don't you go ahead

672
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:22.119
to us.

673
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.039
Well, well, we came off of and this is from

674
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:28.559
the last show. We came off of a very very unstable,

675
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:33.880
very bizarre even advindedly by Jack Crazy Guy in nineteen

676
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:39.000
seventy eight, seventy seven. So he's screaming for years for

677
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:43.800
this particular stamp. This is now during the Scember of

678
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:48.400
nineteen seventy eight, right after he's shouting eight A Richard

679
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:52.400
Nixon nicknamed d word and the other one to get

680
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:56.039
harder to get Carter in the channel nine. Anyways, so

681
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:58.760
this is like, I was so happy to see this.

682
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:05.119
It is saying fac simile tomorrow Lago High President Carter,

683
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:11.159
John Pope, John Paul, the first Holy See, have several

684
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:16.519
of the Washington Cincinnati, Ohio secret mind control program remedy

685
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:21.519
in possession. The Twin tours AB that's for the Archbishop.

686
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:26.639
And I see New York City Field Office waiting for sake,

687
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:33.440
ill me with AA. That's the alcoholics Anonymous CIA LISERGIC

688
00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:37.320
Acid actually have some left in case I need it.

689
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:42.599
On nine first, seventy eight, I have been looking all

690
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.840
over the place nine years. I want you to know,

691
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:49.000
and I believe he's crying at this time. I want

692
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.320
you to know you may have saved me. I tell

693
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.239
you on my honor, from the bottom of my heart,

694
00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:03.800
I am grateful to you all. At UC Davis his holiness.

695
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:09.280
See attention, that's the Holy Cee attention GTTT. That's to

696
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:14.559
tell the truth. Dank you you remember me once a

697
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:20.280
success like Dahlia, Zodiac PA System, dB Cooper. Now I

698
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:25.199
am to hunt ea. That's each to nay. Then there's

699
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:28.079
a pause. Ice that they were looking for Nazis at

700
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.639
the time for like twenty years. That's the immigration people.

701
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:34.840
They wanted to expel them. So it's Ice utl unable

702
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:41.719
to locate evil Nazi animals Illinois tttt to tell the

703
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:44.800
truth to all I owe you. And he's signing off

704
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:47.519
as no One. I got quite a few where he's

705
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:49.760
signing off as no one because he's no one. Now

706
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:53.000
he's not DV Cooper, he's not the Zodiac. He's now

707
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:56.320
back into the Intel community and he's no one.

708
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:01.159
And so he's violent re screaming for out of all

709
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.360
of these letters, we're not going to see him screaming

710
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:07.039
for this remedy anymore then, huh uh no.

711
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.400
But he's bringing it up in quite a few other

712
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:12.920
future ones that you know he was trying to he's

713
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.039
not working, he's not saying it exactly at this point,

714
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:18.960
but he's right then and there he's getting into working

715
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.679
for the Holy See, the Pope and the Vatican. He's

716
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:24.920
got it. He's not got his money for what they

717
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:27.559
owed him and his crew for, but he's got a promotion,

718
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:34.119
and so is the Holy See. Is the government for

719
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:39.519
the Vatican, the Catholic Church, and it's like two thousand

720
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:42.840
years old compared to all the other governments that later

721
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:48.000
evolved after that. So this is like the boss, the boss,

722
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:52.239
the boss of the boss of a lot of people.

723
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:58.400
So one of the top money making Yeah, and religions

724
00:40:58.480 --> 00:40:59.159
in the world.

725
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:03.719
I'm Catholic, so I said, I got this, and I'm

726
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.239
I had a difficult time trying to present this and

727
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:09.199
going to send this to you because I'm starting to

728
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:12.159
cry when I was doing this, and he finally got

729
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.280
He's finally got what he's looking for. And like you said,

730
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:19.400
the wife is pregnant, so I mean, and he's trying

731
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:21.960
to work. I'm seeing he's working in the intel community,

732
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:26.239
but he's now like I can't believe this, and is

733
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:30.440
at the Twin Towers. Okay, what else was it, Jerlyn Towers.

734
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:32.000
We've seen a lot about that.

735
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:36.760
Well, we know that jacket axis. We do have a

736
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:40.440
picture of him at mccleanley Park. This is actually in

737
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:44.760
Jack's handwriting, so Mcleanley Park, Austin, Texas, summer of nineteen

738
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:48.119
seventy eight. Actually this is Norah's handwriting. So I am

739
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:51.199
thinking that if this summertime is obviously going to be

740
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:55.800
June twenty first through what September twenty first, June to July.

741
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:56.519
I believe.

742
00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:00.639
So, so this really kind of lines up when we're

743
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.000
looking at it with that whole notion that Jack can

744
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:07.360
come back to California to pick up Nora. And we

745
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:09.639
have this friction tape letter that is mailed out of

746
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:12.280
the Los Angeles area, which is where Jack would have

747
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:14.480
traveled through on his way back up.

748
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.519
But no, no, no, it's not, it's not it's not

749
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:25.360
but the San franci It's not Los Angeles San Francisco Chronicle.

750
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:31.000
That is the Angels at the St. Francis Chronicles. That's

751
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:32.679
a place in Kansas.

752
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:37.039
So no, no, no, this letter, this letter says on

753
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:42.559
it mailed from Los Angeles, California, sent to San Francisco Chronicle.

754
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:47.400
No, I only got it's even at the other websites.

755
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:51.159
It's from Los Angeles to San Francisco Chronicle. But when

756
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:54.960
you when you do. That's what I just said. No,

757
00:42:55.400 --> 00:43:00.559
San Francisco Chronicle is also the Saint Francis San Franciscoicles.

758
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:05.239
It is a religious newspaper in Kansas City, Missouri that

759
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:08.280
chronicles the pope events. And they're the angels and all

760
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:12.320
kinds of stuff that are in there. So that's where

761
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:18.400
words it's it's a play on words. We all, I said, Okay,

762
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:22.840
not Los Angeles, California, and it's from the it's the

763
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:27.320
Angels to the Saint Francis Chronicles. There's all this. It's Catholic.

764
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.800
It's all this religious stuff. And it's otherwise known as

765
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:37.559
the National Catholic Reporter in Kansas City, Missouri, which is

766
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:39.559
not that far from the land of Texas.

767
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:43.679
I am not understanding. So these people are printing on

768
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.719
the Internet that this was mailed based on the postmark

769
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:50.159
from Los Angeles, California to the San Francisco Chronicle, which

770
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.119
is a zodiac movie.

771
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:55.960
There there's no postmark, there's no picture of an envelope.

772
00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:57.840
This is just the same.

773
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:04.800
Or this individual. I believe. I believe this individual where

774
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.000
I picked up Okay, hold on, Harriet, I believe the

775
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:12.159
individual that produced this particular communication is a former FBI

776
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.840
agent would have some inside information. So unless he's looking

777
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:19.719
to deter or deliver disinformation, I don't know why you

778
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.559
would place that there unless he had evidence or some

779
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:25.599
envelope or something that would suggest that this was the

780
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:28.559
postmark on it. Either way, that's what this says. And

781
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:31.360
I don't have anything else to support or state that

782
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:34.280
it was mailed anywhere else, from anywhere else other than that.

783
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:40.079
Well, there's like thirty different zip codes in Los Angeles,

784
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:42.599
so I can go on. But when I saw that,

785
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:44.199
I said, one.

786
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:47.360
I'm not sure about any zip code. It doesn't list

787
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:50.280
a zip code. But what I'm trying to establish, and

788
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:52.519
it sounds to me like you keep going back to it,

789
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:57.000
is that it was mailed out of Los Angeles. Was

790
00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:57.960
that your believer or not?

791
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:04.239
It just says from Los Angeles to San Francisco chronicle.

792
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:08.239
But that's what I said, And we just spent five

793
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:11.159
We just spent five minutes with you arguing that it's

794
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:14.239
being mailed from somewhere else to somewhere else, and we

795
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.920
have no evidence to suggest otherwise than what that site

796
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:19.079
says is.

797
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:21.880
Bringing up the pope and what chronicles that's the saint

798
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:24.559
Francis Chronicles, the San Francisco.

799
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:27.480
What is the same Francis Chronicles. I did not see

800
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:29.840
that in your soul at all. There's nothing to do

801
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:31.599
that where.

802
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:34.159
That's That's what I'm That's what I'm trying to say,

803
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.519
that that this is it just at the bottom and

804
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:41.559
it goes with that type letter. But that's what this is.

805
00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:44.400
We're talking about the pope, the chronicles of the pope,

806
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.559
the activities of all the popes, and that's what You're.

807
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:50.519
Not hearing what I'm saying, Harriet, You're not hearing what

808
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:54.199
I'm saying. And somehow I do not hear what you're saying,

809
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:56.960
because we're now spending way more time on this than

810
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:00.199
is necessary because you attempted to correct it. I don't

811
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:04.000
see anything in your soul that indicates what you're saying

812
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.519
about this Kansas City newspaper.

813
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.760
It's a play on it's a play on words.

814
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:13.000
Is what's lay words?

815
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:19.920
It's it's Los Angeles. That's Spanish for the Angels. Theisco

816
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:24.599
Chronicle is Saint Francis Chronicles or Saint Francis Chronicles. It's

817
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:25.360
another paper.

818
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.519
But that's not even in California. Because this says it

819
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:32.639
was mailed in to the San Francisco Chronicle.

820
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:38.519
That's it's it doesn't say you're not getting. What I'm

821
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:41.119
saying is from a Catholic point of view, and that's

822
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.159
what he's talking about, how the Pope and the Holy

823
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:52.000
See is helping him. Finally, Okay, all right, yeah, all right.

824
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.440
So this brings us to the next event in Jack's

825
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:56.079
life at this point in time, and if he has

826
00:46:56.239 --> 00:47:01.400
just received the remedy, as Harriet has solved in the

827
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:04.440
last letter, then we see that he is probably a

828
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:06.639
little bit more mellow and a little bit more calm

829
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:10.480
when his son is born. So Charles Terrence is born

830
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.400
in Austin, Texas, son of both Jack Terrence and Nora Terrence.

831
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:18.199
In this particular birth certificate, I thought it was interesting

832
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:22.280
that Jack actually lists himself as Jack W. Terrence, which

833
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.440
is very rare for him to do. He does sign Jack,

834
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:27.239
but a lot of the stuff that we're going to

835
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.679
see after Charles is born, he's going to swap over

836
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:33.960
to John Terrence. What I did show that he was

837
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.320
fifty years old. Did you know that he was twenty

838
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:39.480
years older than Nora Harriet.

839
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:43.679
Yeah, yeah, I had no clue.

840
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:49.599
Wow, what a difference. Anyways, he shows that he was

841
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:51.039
what's that.

842
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:56.880
She's thirty when she gave birth to Charles, and that's upcoming.

843
00:47:56.480 --> 00:48:00.559
Faract and Jack Mooty at the time where I got

844
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:02.960
the age, I didn't even know until I'd put this together.

845
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:06.599
It shows that he was a service station manager for

846
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:13.199
Hudson Oil Company. So again we're back at another gas

847
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:17.320
station type job that as we have noticed that that's

848
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:20.000
where they would place members of the CIA, so they're

849
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:22.039
not missed, you know. I mean, obviously anybody could do

850
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.920
that job, but they're there to collect and deliver information

851
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:26.920
and when they need to be called into service to

852
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:28.559
do whatever it is that they're being asked to do.

853
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:32.239
There they can up and move on and go do

854
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:34.320
that job and then come back to that little gas

855
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.079
station once again. So I wasn't shocked to see that.

856
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:40.840
Here we have Jack in the middle of another gas

857
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:45.280
station a Hudson Oil Company. See we show that Jack

858
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:48.920
lists himself as a service station manager. His mother's residence

859
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:52.239
is listed as singin Texas. At this time, he's living

860
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:55.199
at two thousand and five Thrasher Lane in Austin, Texas.

861
00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:58.880
And Jack I got that another reference to the type

862
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:02.599
of gas station type obvious that these assets would have had.

863
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.960
We do show a picture of go ahead, I think

864
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:11.880
our time is up. Oh yeah, you're right. We're about

865
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:14.840
thirty seconds away from all right. Well, we didn't make

866
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:16.440
it through all of the slides, but we did make

867
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:19.000
it through a decent amount. I want to wish everybody

868
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:23.400
a happy Thanksgiving. Enjoy this episode on Black Friday. Is

869
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:32.480
there anything you guys would like to add.

870
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:31.000
Black Friday?

871
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:34.480
I'm yeah, yeah. I hope you all had some great

872
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.119
turkey and some good comas and some good leftovers.

873
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:40.039
Go ahead, Harriet, Yes, yes, yes, no, I'm just saying

874
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:43.000
I'm very grateful to be the voice for the dead.

875
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.400
I mean, so many of these people are gone.

876
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:47.320
I thought you were going to do a sign off.

877
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:49.440
I thought you were going to do a sign off.

878
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:52.800
All right, we gotta go guys that we're gonna take care.

879
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:53.960
Hey, so