Jan. 23, 2026

LK & MM, Fake Suspects? Part 3

LK & MM, Fake Suspects? Part 3
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Last few points on Lawrence Cane and were are going to see a very interesting twist of fate as we knock out several fake suspect pushers and fake suspects. Re-investigating Lawrence Cane after hearing about the release of a new suspect December 2025 led me to Sandy Betts which led me to Alex Baber which led me to Marvin Margolis which led to a circle jerk of oldies but goodies. How many people can you claim is the Zodiac before it’s obvious you’re covering something up.

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Good morning to truth seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome

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back to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.

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I'd like to welt the show today. Lindsay mcbrear, Hey,

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good morning mornin.

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He's got a.

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Very interesting show today. I think we're going to see

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a little bit of a circle jerk and hopefully everybody

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finally understands why I'm even involved with this.

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Stuff, right.

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I wanted to start first with the presentation I was,

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of course.

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Awoke.

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Let's just say that, by the introduction of Christina Chloe,

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who is the individual working with David Burkewitz, I did

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take a look at his military records within the last

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couple of weeks because she was interested in a signature

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and that said Rosemary's Baby, which I guess he was

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touted for being a fan of Rosemary's Baby, but that

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wasn't known until after he was caught in seventy seven,

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and these documents were from nineteen seventy one, so one

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I think she was trying to figure out who would

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have signed Rosemary Baby on this military record, because she

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actually subpoenaed them directly, I think from New York and

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nor I think she called it is another type of

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AFOYA file type information, and it appears on all of

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these documents. I don't really know the chain of the

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command of these documents, but I do know that in

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nineteen seventy one, when Berkowitz wrote on these documents that

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handwriting is very much, very different from the Rosemary's Baby signature,

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and I detected another word on the documents that said

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deceased in the mother's area that seemed to match the

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handwriting of Rosemary's Baby.

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So question becomes.

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Was that information written in nineteen seventy one or at

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a later date such as seventy six or seventy seven

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when his apartment was rated and all his documents were

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I'm sure taken by the police department for the investigation,

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or where they actually obtained these from, because we know,

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the military is generally known for dotting their eyes and

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crossing their teas and making sure that all peoplework is

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filled out correctly, and this would appear as though on

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his entry for enlistment that it was not properly witnessed.

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And then, of course, so maybe even this information was backdated.

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Let's or not backdated, I'm sorry, done after the fact.

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Let's say the recruiter realized that these areas were missing

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and then proceeded to fill them out with the deceit,

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the word deceased, and Rosemary's baby. But then why why

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sign it with some funky name, you know, I mean,

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sign it with your own name? So I feel like

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there's something shady going on there. I really can't put

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my finger on it. But the real reason that Christina

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reached out to me was because she was working with

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David Berkowitz or I'm sorry, she wanted to look at

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Lawrence Kane.

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She's doing the.

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Symbolism in the letters, and she finds that there are

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significant things about the letters between Zodiac and the Son

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of Sam murders that were consistent with each other, like

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stuff or kind of instilling that group theory that we're

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talking about. With the Zodiac and with Berkowitz and the

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Son of Sam murders, which we know he's flip flop

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back and forth. So I guess when he was originally arrested,

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he declared it.

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He was the single shooter.

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But there were multiple eyewitnesses to different suspects, different vehicles.

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There were lots of reasons to believe there were more

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than one person involved, and I believe also there were

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people caught videotaping one of the murders as for a

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snuff film that was also involved, which would kind of

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support the whole group theory.

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Yeah, that's not surprising.

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Right, Everything's a project and you need more than one person.

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He has since the flip flop back to he's the

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loan shooter again, so he went your group conspiracy, loan shooter,

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boom boom. So now I think she wants me to

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look at the letters that were written in the Son

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of Sam murders to determine whether or not there was

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more than one author involved with them. We'll see if

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I got there. I already told her I needed, you know,

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good samples from David that he's willing to accept, and

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so far that's kind of been a pushback from him,

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and I think that's because he's back on the stance

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of single shooter theory.

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I don't really know. Sami must be in his ear exactly.

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Yeah, I would love to speak with him, honestly. So

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I'm glad that somebody is still like doing that actively,

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because I mean, they're not going to be living forever.

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So well, I think that I've at least got her

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on track with what I've shown her so far to

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show that there's media involvement in what is going on,

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and that the biggest benefactors out of these obviously, aside

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from whatever agenda they were accomplishing by putting forth these

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type of projects, was that the media got extremely rich

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off of all the newspapers that they were selling.

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Oh yeah, well, and not only that they were able

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to easily pass us lulls and get all this stuff

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done that they wanted to done so easily because you know,

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when you manipulate the public, it's easy for them to say,

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oh yeah, okay, that sounds great, you know, right.

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Right, And we are very impressionable. We tend to believe

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what's on the news on the TV. Most people don't

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see a reason or why the media or hollyweird.

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Let's just say, would want to disinform them.

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So that's why we have so many people arguing over

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the morning news. One watch thirteen, one watch Channel four

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and now, oh, our information is different, let's have a debate. No, guys,

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the news is never a reason to debate. They're almost

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always wrong, exactly.

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And I was gonna say, also, a lot of it

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all boys bowls down to emotion. That's how they, you know,

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get you on their side, and they get you to

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believe what they want you to believe.

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And e tho.

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Yeah, And that's literally almost every single time they use

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emotion in some way, shape or fashion.

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So they can do credibility, they can do statistics, and

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they can do emotion. And there are three different there's

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are always employed. I think all three in any attempt

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to you know, start a narrative for the mouse public

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to believe. Let's go to the PowerPoint presentation here real quick,

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because I'm gonna tell you what got me on my kick.

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So basically my message board is https call in forward slash,

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forward slash, nanette be as in boy period forum, chit chat,

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dot com, forward slash, And at one point in time

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I had literally had basically gotten rid of everybody that

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was a member on the board because there was so

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much infighting. I couldn't tell who was the trolls who

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was legitimately there to you know, research the evidence. And

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I kicked off everybody who was just either sitting and

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steering or you know, would pop up one and I'd

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come in and put in new information. I saw the

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numbers immediately jump from myself being the only person on

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the board to the area of one hundred and twenty

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seven people at one point in time. That literally the

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second that I would drop information on that message board,

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all of these people would pop up to see what

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I've got. Well, if I'm so wrong, why why are

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y'all popping up?

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Yeah?

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Either way, I looked at the members just to see

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what was going on, and I saw a huge amount

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of people jump on in twenty eighteen, obviously, But the

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one that really kind of caught me off guard, said

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Tom Voight joined July twenty twenty four. Now, I thought

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his name was Voigt. So this could be a fake person, right,

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It could be somebody who well Tom Voight runs the

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Zodiac Killer website, you know who? Yeah?

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Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, and he was one of Dennis's adversaries.

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When I first came into contact with Dennis in these cases,

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he's and said things about me personally. I think that

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at one point in time he had put up a

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picture on his message board that showed some girl in

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the background with Dennis, and he accused them of doing drugs,

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and he said that the girl was me.

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Quite frankly, I've never taken with Dennis, I know.

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And that's what leads me into this whole story with

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Christina Klough and me making the opinion that that handwriting

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was not done by David Berkowitz in nineteen seventy one.

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At a minimum, I told her I needed validated sources

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of handwriting for when he was arrested, to see if

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at any point in time when his handwriting matured, if

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it was possible that he wrote it in a later time.

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Since we do not know how they obtained.

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These documents, she's attempted to get them through FOIA files

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or through the military, and they say his files are

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non existent, so I don't know what's going on there

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either way. She posted what I had to say about

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this handwriting on her message board, and literally this man

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named Mike Morford, and you'll know him on the internet

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is morph m O RF pops up, obviously upset over

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the fact that she has joined forces with me, which

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either scares them or he thought he was going to

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do me in with his nasty little words, and he

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proceeded to say that Dennis Kaufman and his meth fueled

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expert investigation.

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Yeah, yes, funny how they always use the drug thing.

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You know, they can go wherever they want to go

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on it. You can take my hair, it's pretty darn long.

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You can take you can.

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Take anything you want, and you'll find no drugs in here,

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thank you.

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Not necessary. I have far too much energy. I would

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spin straight off my top, I'm sure. So I mentioned

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to her that I believe that he was indicating that

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I did drugs, and so he's on there lying saying

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that we falsified and fraudulently created pictures of Jack and

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handwriting and all of this to suit the case. And

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so I explained to her that that is At first

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I had stated that was defamation, but it turns out

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I was told that was libel and it's liable per

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se because there are three things you can't say about

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somebody unless they're true. One of them is that they

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do drugs. The other one is their sexual orientation by

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calling somebody gay who is not. Or the other one

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is that they've been to jail or done prison time

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when they have it. So these three things go for

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a per se which includes United damages. And this is

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why I'm bringing it up at this point is because

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Mike Morphord listen to me, now, I do not and

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should I find any other messages on any Internet site

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anywhere where you have indicated or intimated that you thought

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I did drugs. I'm letting you know that this is

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not true. This is something I can prove, and you

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need to discontinue and take down any references to this whatsoever.

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And that includes tomboy, thank you, my rant.

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Anyways, until he has a Twitter account, doesn't he who

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the morph go?

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Yeah, yeah, he's got, he's got a website, he's got you.

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Know, he's wishing his page.

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So he's running his own operation on falsifying information and disinformation.

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So either way, it is Martin.

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Luther King week.

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And since we are on talking about projects, especially for

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the last couple of weeks, I would like to have

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permission to read what you wrote me, Lindsay, Yes, all right,

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so this was your take on Martin Luther King. There

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was a journalist that actually covered the riots on this,

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but he was shut down by media. I don't recall

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the documentary at this point, but he attempted to produce

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a story that showed all the rioting and the buildings

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on fire, and the streets on fire, and all the

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things that occurred over the assassination of Martin Luther King,

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and the news company shut it down, which doesn't make

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any sense to me, because I believe that they were

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looking for this agenda.

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We know that he was a.

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Program, a program of the government because they have it

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in the FOIA files.

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It was called Cointaeil.

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Pro where they were putting this man through everything that

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one could possibly imagine. But, so Lindsay says, by harvesting

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the energy of people who loved him and mourned because

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of his death, in which they create symbolism by making

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him a martyr, so they are always reminded of what

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they are capable of and how much power they have

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over the people and under others underneath them.

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Reminds me of a.

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Psychopaths serial killer, right like keeping a symbol of their victims,

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so they are always remind Oh wait a minute, so

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they are always reminded like the holiday created in statues,

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et cetera, while fooling the Black people to create a

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false narrative of peace when they knew there would never

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be peace because that's never what they wanted nor unity.

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They did this fake racism stuff and very intelligent once

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Lincoln freed them from slavery.

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Then in order to revert what Lincoln.

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Did, they create a false race warm among the people

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to take psychological ownership over them. A lot of black

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people in present times are waking up to this stuff

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and cannot believe it.

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But it's one hundred percent true.

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It was never caused or created by the normal average

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white person.

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But many still believe that it was.

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And that's exactly what they wanted, a long term race war,

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picking sides white versus black and left versus right. When

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we don't take either side, they get bad and create chaos,

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almost like a parent when they discipline their child or

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scold their child. That's what they do to try to

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get us to snap.

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Out of it. In the beginning, Mlka Jr.

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Was a good man seeking peace, but they fooled him

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by allowing him in as he wanted to only create

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peace and love, and turned him into a monster by blackmail,

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their most favorite tool of all, and used black mail

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in retaliation if MLK did not do as they say,

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which ultimately I think led to his death, which is

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another Patsy defined murder as well.

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I think MLK Junior.

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Saw what they were really doing, but he wasn't allowed

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to do anything about it. So sad I will say,

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do you an email the CIA documents on MLKA Junior

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that was released last year, so you can see what

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all the FBI and CIA.

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Did to him.

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He was always being watched constantly and almost steadily blackmailed

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in each step he made, so that that way he

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kept his mouth shut.

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I thought that was a very succinct expression. Thank you.

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Sometimes I'll like go ranting on. I feel like I'm like,

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get this long paragraph, and then I go back and

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read and I'm like, wow, did I write? Did write?

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Have you ever done that before?

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It's like, so I started journaling and writing everything down,

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like even that stuff in my head, you know. So yeah,

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I appreciate you reading that, no.

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And I appreciate you sending it Honestly speaking, I do

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believe that he was a programmed death. These people do

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not care who they kill in the act of their agendas.

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They don't care who they are, don't care how, they

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don't care. I mean, just to see the Project Marking

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Bird and the you know, Anti Defamation League and all

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of these other things, I think that can be attributed

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to the type of murders that we're seen, especially as

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they go unsolved. Absolutely mind blowing and well, you know,

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I also heard that there were things that Mlka was

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not a decent person, you know, So it's really kind

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of who you I'm really being led to believe. Everybody

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I thought we should appreciate is literally not something we

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should actuate anymore.

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It's like totally the opposite. It's like your history book

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and school. It's like total opposite what they tell you.

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Right right, So we are getting back into Kine now.

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So Christina Klobe brought me back Lawrence Kane as a

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fake suspect. Of course, I do not believe that she

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still thinks anymore. Maybe she thinks he's part of the

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group or program, but I know she doesn't think that

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he is the zodiac. Based on several things But one

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of the things I wanted to point out is that

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we last week, we were looking at his handwriting, and

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all of the handwritings said kin with a K. And

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then here this handwriting, which was a produced sample that

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he obviously had to give, he writes kin with a C.

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So it is the first time that we see C

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A N E for Kin.

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Well, I'll tell you about why they do that, because

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that's just caused more confusion and you know, and yeah.

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Yeah, all of these multiple names, just like this Marvin

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Margolis that came out, But I understand why he changed

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his name if he was the last person dating black

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doh yeah, and the media wouldn't leave him alone.

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I'd tell you to use my name too, like yeah.

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Like, but when you're doing it multiple times, and there's

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so much different, different, different differentiality of like every single

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aspect of your handwriting and your name, then that's indicator.

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Yeah you know you lost write Oh really.

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Yeah, if you look into it in the ancestry files

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and like the government and like public files on him

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and his name and different variations of it. He's he

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doesn't like to tell anyone who his middle name is

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for some odd reason, and his daughter can verify that

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for anyone. And it's very hard to find his name

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written in any document with an E, much less his

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whole entire middle name Edward.

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So.

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And he is also a junior, which no one knows that.

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But if you look back, I didn't know that, yeah, ye.

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But he doesn't want to. He doesn't tell people that.

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He doesn't tell people about his middle name, and and

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so then you have all these different variations of it everywhere,

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and just and him using it here on this document,

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not on this one, this one, And then you know, well.

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If he's not using middle middle names and juniors, then

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it may be to kind of abscond with his dad's

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credit rating or information, if you get what I mean.

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So if he wasn't on the up and up, but

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dad was, I know that my marriage to my children's father,

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he was a junior. He was the second actually, And

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because three items matched up with his information and his

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dad's information, including the name, it meant that his dad's

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credit was reporting on his credit report, it showed he

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was married to.

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His mother, and that he had three oh yeah, children.

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So there I can see people using that as a

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way to boost themselves when they don't have anything, but

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it's not normal for people to be running around with

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a level.

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And I think also he would want he did it

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because he wanted to hide his pass and like.

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Might have been family, which makes.

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Sense because then when I actually find the family background,

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it's like, oh, okay, well this is why he didn't

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want a mind to see because.

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All right, so let's move on.

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Let's move on from John because I have a lot

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to get through right now, and I want to focus

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because we've been trying to get through Kane and Margolas

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for a while.

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Now I know.

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To finish off on Kane.

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Basically, I had grabbed some things from the Internet and

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I want to say this was like zodiacsciphers dot com

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or something.

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It says the prelude to these events.

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Larry Kane, spelled with a K, suffered a brain injury

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to his left frontal lobe in nineteen sixty two after

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a serious car crash in San Mateo, California. Doctors diagnosed

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that he had developed an inability to control his urges

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for self gratification, and was subsequently arrested several times as

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a peeping tom in the preceding months to the first

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confirmed Zodiac attack. On Betty Lou Jensen and David Faraday

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on December twentieth of nineteen sixty eight in an isolated

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turnout alongside Lake Herman Road. Three years after his brain

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injury in nineteen sixty five, his prognosis in terms of

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rehabilitation was extremely poor and Lawrence Kane was left with

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facial paralysis on one side of his face. We did

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not see any facial paralysis in the composite, So again

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it's just another reason to check.

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That box off.

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He would have had a rudimentary knowledge of coding after

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his brief time in the United States Nabel Reserves.

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What's that? No, okay, So along with the Modesta induction. No,

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I couldn't.

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Oh, I said, there's the Navy again.

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The Navy just keeps coming up to But.

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That's because in this case he was in the Navy.

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So but he would have had rudimentary Like they said,

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he wasn't part of I guess you know, Ham Radio

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or working the Ham radio, so he had some limited knowledge.

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So and that was a brief time, it says in

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United States Naval Reserves in nineteen forty three. So along

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with the Modesto abduction of Kathleen John's and the dawna

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last disappearance of at South Lake Tahoe. Did Larry Kane

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have the means and opportunity to commit the five murders

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at four locations attributed to the Zodiac killer question mark?

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There are a lot more circumstantial elements suggested by people

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that have elevated Larry Kine into the list of widely

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touted Zodiac suspects, But in truth the list is built

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with many suspects that don't warnt much consideration. As the

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murderer of five in the Bay Area, Lawrence Kane is

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almost certainly not the Zodiac Killer. Then it goes on

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to say Harvey Hines went on to elaborate about his

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search for Donald ass in particular the Pines card mailed

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on March twenty second of nineteen seventy one. After studying

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the card, I drove to Nordon, located on Old Highway

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forty north of Light, Tahoe, and found the Sierra Club.

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I learned the club was not called the Sierra Club.

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It was named the Claire tap and Lodge, and it

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was a private club for Sierra Club members only. I

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believed if I followed the directions on the postcard. I

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would find donal Las's grave. I believe she was buried

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near the Sierra Club and most likely on donner Ski Ranch.

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I would later have the pictures of the Sierra Club develop. Then,

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using a copy of the Zodiac's card, I cut out

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the phrase as he had pasted on his card. Using

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these phrases, I overpasted them on the copy of the

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Sierra Club picture. It was striking similar to the arial card.

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So now we have a point out right to more

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elite people because Sierra Club members only could attend this lodge.

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That reminds me of like Bohemian grove in Coconut Crush

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in Florida. Yeah, so he's pointing his fingers at these

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people for a reason.

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Now this gets me to the response.

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So when Christina Kloh reached out to me and wanted

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to have Sandy Bets information, I asked Sandy Betts. I

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emailed her and asked if I could extend her email

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address to Christina and I got a response back from

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Sandy Bets.

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And you guys, this is where everything.

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Kind of took a full circle jerk on me this

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last week, because when I realized what I was sitting on,

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I was absolutely blown away, so it says from Sandy.

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She says, heinenat I'm okay, but I got another death

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threat from my suspect on December one, twenty twenty five.

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That would make the man like ninety years old if

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he was the Zodiac. So I'm really like thinking that

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she's just being messed with. People like to mess with people.

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I don't know why they do this.

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But the law Lawrence Kane is still alive. No, no,

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I don't believe he is. I'm just saying.

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She's saying that she received another death threat on December first,

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though she didn't tell me what that death threat was.

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She says, I hope all is well with you.

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Tell the person who likes Kine for a Zee suspect

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that Larry Kane has been proven to not be the Zodiac.

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Detective Tom Bruton from SFPD went to meet Kin. He

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got his DNA, prince and handwriting. Nothing matched. It was

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VALAYOPD in nineteen ninety who told me the picture I

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have of my suspect looked like Kane. Darlene's family told

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me the picture I took, who was who followed it

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and killed Darlene? They thought he was Kane. I wasted

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ten years investigating Kane, believing he was my stalker. It

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wasn't Kane. It wasn't until Cain died and my suspect

471
00:24:54.319 --> 00:24:57.480
was still following me that I knew he wasn't Kane. However,

472
00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:00.240
they looked a lot alike. So this takes me back

473
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:02.480
to her suspect. If he looked a lot like Caine,

474
00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:05.720
and we can visually see that Kane looks nothing like

475
00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:10.240
the composite, then yeah, then why would she think why

476
00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:13.039
would she even continue with the thought process that it's

477
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:13.799
the Zodiac?

478
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:15.079
I don't really.

479
00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:20.279
I mean because that one PD officer standing he looked

480
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:21.359
like him, I.

481
00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:24.039
Mean, no, he didn't. Folk, I think that's lies. I

482
00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:30.319
think that is intentional disinformation. I cannot see folks giving

483
00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:32.839
that type of a composite and then turning around and

484
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:36.640
saying that woman's king was the most look alike to

485
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:38.440
the person he saw in the presidio when.

486
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:41.359
It looks nothing like the composite. It's just it's idiocy.

487
00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:44.440
I just think that that's new information they're putting up

488
00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:46.240
for those that want to research the case, so they'll

489
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.799
be led down the wrong road. That's just what we're

490
00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:51.720
used to in those cases. Now it gets even better

491
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:54.400
because then she goes on to say, a guy who

492
00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:58.559
has a website, his name is Alex Batter from Philadelphia,

493
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:00.079
from Philly, PA.

494
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:01.279
He sent that letter.

495
00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:03.720
So she's referring to one of the communications that she

496
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:06.759
believed she received from her suspect, which she thinks is

497
00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:07.400
the Zodiac.

498
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:09.720
She'd sent this to Alex Baber.

499
00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:12.839
He sent that letter that was left for me from

500
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:16.599
my suspect in nineteen eighty six to the nation's top expert,

501
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:19.599
Kurt Baggett. I don't know where she gets this information.

502
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:23.039
And maybe years ago somebody called him. I think it

503
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:26.359
might have been something in regards to John Benet Ramsey,

504
00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:29.440
and they called him out from calling out a percentage,

505
00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:32.680
which he says he never gave a percentage of likelihood

506
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:34.599
that Patsy Ramsey had written the letter.

507
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:37.599
But so he's already.

508
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:40.359
Being admonished in the news and the media for having

509
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:42.720
given a percentage that he says he didn't give.

510
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:45.440
But she's calling him the nation's top expert.

511
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:48.759
And then both Baggots she's saying, so she's saying Kurt

512
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:51.880
Baggott and Bart Baggott confirmed that the letter from nineteen

513
00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:56.240
eighty six was written by the Zodiac exclamation mark. I

514
00:26:56.359 --> 00:27:00.640
cautioned her on this simply because Bart Baggett named Perez

515
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.440
as the likely daughter of the Zodiac. So how can

516
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:06.400
you have both? You can't have it both ways. You've

517
00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:08.279
got to pick one and be one.

518
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:08.759
That's it.

519
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:13.400
So Sacramento, DOJ told my detective that the true Zodiac

520
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:16.440
has a lazy eye, and we see that in Jack's

521
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:19.880
in pictures. So one eye slants more than the other.

522
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:22.480
And she says Hansho has a lazy eye, but still

523
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.640
he looks nothing like the composite. I asked Alex send

524
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:28.000
me a copy of the document from Baggott. He is

525
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:30.240
always too busy to send it to me. I need

526
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.279
it because I want to go to the FBI. I'm

527
00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:35.359
tired of these idiot detectives who don't seem interested in

528
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:40.920
the Zodiac case. Now introduction to Alex Baber. Now he

529
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:44.960
has facilitated this connection. He's connected now to Bart Baggott

530
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:49.880
and Kurt Baggott. He's now connected to the latest fake

531
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:52.920
suspect that's put out, and that's going to be our

532
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:57.240
bridge to Marvin Margolis. So she has now indicated that

533
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:00.759
Alex Baber believed that this was written by the Zodiac

534
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:04.400
as her suspect, and that the Baggots also back this up.

535
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:07.160
And we can already clearly show that Bart Baggott is

536
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:09.160
on the side of Debora Perez, who was confirmed to

537
00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:16.240
not have any any likeness, affiliation belongings that happened in

538
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:17.759
this particular Zodiac case.

539
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:19.599
Step forward.

540
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:22.160
Alex Baber is a fifty year old West Virginian with

541
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.960
autism who claims to have solved the Zodiac and Black

542
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:28.680
Dollar murders, identifying Marvin Margolis as the likely killer. He

543
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:31.880
used AI programs and his code breaking skills to analyze

544
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:35.279
the Zodiac killer's nineteen seventy cipher and cross reference it

545
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:39.160
with historical records and witness accounts. So now we have

546
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:43.839
him who has also declared that this letter was written

547
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:47.000
by the Zodiac, now claiming that he has another suspect

548
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:49.720
and he has broke the code. I thought that was

549
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:52.920
extremely interesting because if his first choice was to go

550
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:55.759
to the Baggots, then that means that there's some inclusion there,

551
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:57.519
that's a relation.

552
00:28:58.960 --> 00:28:59.200
Yep.

553
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:03.640
It's an continuation of the conspiracy where bag Itt and

554
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:06.319
Void and now bag It and Babber and all of.

555
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:11.039
These people are putting forth fall suspects. So I thought

556
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:13.039
I'd read a little bit of what.

557
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:19.680
This Babber guy has talked about, and it says post

558
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:22.119
is from two years ago posters trying to claim Marvin

559
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:26.480
was an identity thief who forged marriage certificates to divert investigators.

560
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.359
So this looks like it was posted. It says twelve

561
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.000
days ago was posted, but two years before this. I

562
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:35.960
think maybe Baber has come out trying to convince people

563
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:40.039
on message boards that Marvin Margolis was actually the Zodiac.

564
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:43.119
It says personally still not convinced he is Z and

565
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:44.000
the notion that Z.

566
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:46.559
Thirteen was cracked as simply ludacrous.

567
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.319
However, the above post was an interesting read and certainly

568
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:53.160
a good suspect for black Doll. Yet and then somebody

569
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:55.720
fresh Pepper eighty eight says, none of you really seemed

570
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:56.720
to read the details.

571
00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.599
AI did not crack the cipher. The guy did it himself.

572
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:02.400
He went through several different rounds, and then he came

573
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:05.160
out with letters, and then he fed those letters into

574
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:08.480
a database using a nineteen fifty census. That was the

575
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:11.680
first time every single person in the United States was listed.

576
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:13.640
It just came out a couple of years.

577
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:15.759
Ago, and AI went through those billions of names to

578
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.440
try to find ones that match those letters.

579
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.279
AI is one hundred percent capable of doing that.

580
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:24.920
Initially, it spit out eleven million returns on possible names.

581
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:28.079
He tweaked something something you should be able to tell

582
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:30.519
us more than something, and got it down to eight

583
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:34.200
hundred thousand, kept tweaking it down until he got thirty five.

584
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:36.559
Then manually he went through those names himself.

585
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.519
Several expert cryptologists are saying his method is solid, So

586
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:43.079
for you amateurs to poo poo, it really shows a

587
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:45.880
lack of flexibility. Perhaps it will turn out wrong, but

588
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:49.160
considering the fact that so many top cryptologists are saying

589
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.519
it's solid, maybe you should adopt and wait and see approach.

590
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.680
To keep saying AI figured out the ciphers wrong. All

591
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:57.759
AI did was take the letters that this guy came

592
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.519
up with and rifle through names looking for a series

593
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:05.240
of letters that would fit exactly. And if it's a

594
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:09.119
nineteen fifty census, then I would have to believe. I

595
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.880
would have to first substantiate that Marvin Margolis had already

596
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.720
changed his name to Margolis, because if it was his

597
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.240
previous name, which we'll get to it in here somewhere,

598
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.880
it isn't thirteen letters, It's only twelve, as somebody has

599
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.839
put out. So what name was Marvin Margolis listed under

600
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:28.599
a nineteen fifty census? If it was Margolis and not Merrill,

601
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:31.599
that would be fourteen characters and not thirteen, So he.

602
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:34.400
Couldn't shouldn't even come up in the search.

603
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:40.119
So for a yeah, so it is fourteen letters or yeah,

604
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:42.720
fourteen letters for Marvin Margolis. And if he was said

605
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.440
to have changed his name after the death of Black Dahlias,

606
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:50.000
so sometime between nineteen forty seven and this nineteen fifty census.

607
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:51.799
He changed his name, he would be at fourteen.

608
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:55.200
Letters, not at thirteen anymore, which it was a Z thirteen.

609
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:59.400
So they go on about some more of the code ciphers,

610
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:03.160
and they talk a little bit here about Alex Baber.

611
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:03.680
And what he did.

612
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:06.359
It says, let me see in detail twenty two about

613
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:12.279
the February second crime. HQ hosted a special event with

614
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.400
Alex Baber and Jalen Baber the Cold Case Consultants of

615
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:18.640
America led by Kelly McLear. I think I probably should

616
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:21.440
look up who that place is. But this is my

617
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:25.880
point in media giving people like this attention over nonsense

618
00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:30.160
when the real suspects or the real evidence that needs

619
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:33.559
to be investigated is being presented on a constant basis

620
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:37.720
through this presentation, and they haven't given Jack near the

621
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.680
time that they decide to give these other individuals that

622
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:43.079
turn out being fake. But they get big, big news,

623
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:46.960
and then when it's attracted and it said that it

624
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.759
was false, it's two seconds somewhere and maybe it's just

625
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.200
even a little blurb on the Internet, they don't ever

626
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:55.440
go back and give us the same amount of media

627
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:59.319
attention to discrediting the nonsense that these people are putting

628
00:32:59.359 --> 00:32:59.680
us through.

629
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:02.160
So he says that.

630
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:07.240
Although Alex had not known anything about the case before that,

631
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:09.720
oh I got to see when this says, finally got

632
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:11.599
involved in March of two thousand and seven.

633
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.400
What drew him in was David Fincher's Zodiac movie.

634
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:18.359
Although Alex had not seen The Zodiac or had not

635
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:21.920
known anything about the case before then, so he's claiming

636
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:24.279
he didn't know anything in two thousand and seven. Now

637
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:26.839
I want to know when Sandy Betts gave him that

638
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:28.680
letter and when he forwarded it.

639
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:29.799
To the baggots.

640
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.920
I know that I met Sandy Bets in probably two

641
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.279
thousand and nine, so there could be an area there

642
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:37.960
of two years. But for him to claim that, I

643
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.079
want to say, she probably submitted it to him much

644
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:44.920
sooner than that before he claims to know anything about it.

645
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.400
It says that evening a Friday, he decided to take

646
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.480
a cracket solving one of the infamous ciphers associated with

647
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.880
the case. Alex claims that he solved it that evening,

648
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:58.000
after four thy five and twenty seven attempts. His solution

649
00:33:58.119 --> 00:33:59.599
gave him a name. I want to know how he

650
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:01.319
knows exactly how many attempts he.

651
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:10.599
Made that for each time on a piece of paper

652
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:12.719
and direct.

653
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.679
They say his solution gave him a name. His solution

654
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:18.199
didn't give him a name. His solution gave him more

655
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:20.920
work to figure out a name. Then, it says next

656
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.320
he went online to a forum devoted to the Zodiac

657
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:25.920
Killer and posted the name he came up with. So

658
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:29.559
they skip out on this entire AI tweaking of the system,

659
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.599
breaking down the names and then eventually coming up with something.

660
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:36.519
So he went on to the forum devoted to the

661
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:38.920
Zodiac killer and posted the name he came up with.

662
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.679
On Sunday, he received a phone call asking do you

663
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.639
want to play a game. After Alex replied no, the

664
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.920
speaker said, I want to compliment you on cracking my cipher.

665
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:50.800
So now we've got the zodiac calling him up.

666
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:59.360
Oh my god, I'm sorry before now, Oh my god.

667
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:06.039
Yeah, a little shock that freaked out.

668
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.679
At this point, he shows because especially because he didn't

669
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:10.320
know how the caller got his number.

670
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:11.400
Alex said that he.

671
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:13.840
Didn't want any trouble and volunteered to remove the post

672
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:17.000
from the forum that mentioned the man's name. The caller

673
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.000
then went to prove that he knew Alex's full name,

674
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:24.320
place of work, address, and fiance's full name. At that point,

675
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:26.920
Alex said again he'd take the post.

676
00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:28.000
Down and hung up on the caller.

677
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.480
Oh now that now we're playing on ethos, right, We're

678
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.639
playing on people's emotions because it must be the real guy.

679
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.639
So you're saying, Marvin Markolis reached out and contacted you

680
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:41.280
because you mentioned his name. So somebody's response to that

681
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:43.800
was no, it is rubbish. I'm very familiar with the

682
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:46.360
cryptography and have studied this at a high level. It's

683
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.440
pseudoscientific nonsense, and there's no way to extrapolate any useful

684
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:54.920
information from Z thirteen. Another person or the same person says,

685
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.519
could you share where he describes his method? I would

686
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.719
be happy to do a more detailed post explaining it's rubbish,

687
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.119
as I'm not expecting you to just take my word

688
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.840
for it, happy to go into detail if his method

689
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.800
is published. If it is not published, well then there

690
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:12.039
you go. So what if you already have the key

691
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.239
as in the zodiac having it, well, Alex Baber is

692
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:16.880
not the zodiac, so how would you have it?

693
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:18.719
Either way?

694
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:21.280
They go on to talk about different variations of it.

695
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.280
So Marvin Merrill was his name when he was dating

696
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:27.599
Black Dahia, and then it says he it was the

697
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:33.199
alias Marvin Margolis adopt. Oh, so Margolis was the name

698
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:35.800
that he was, that he had when he was dating

699
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:41.360
Black Dahia. So Marvin Merrill is what he changed it

700
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:44.400
to after her death, But it doesn't say when. It

701
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.559
says it was the name he lived under until his

702
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:51.119
death by cancer in Santa Barbara in July nineteen ninety three,

703
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.800
aged sixty eight. Though this gravestone at Riverside National Cemetery

704
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:57.440
bears the Margolis name.

705
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:00.400
It was the alias.

706
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:03.840
Okay, so he died and was listed as Martin Marbulist.

707
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:07.199
So maybe he never legally changed his name. I mean,

708
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:12.639
which people do they do? Yeah, well you're trying to hide,

709
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:14.920
but usually you go the legal route, right, so that

710
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.599
you can get an identification cord. You can do all

711
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:20.559
of these other things, not simply just be called Meryll

712
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.639
that you live as Meryll either way.

713
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:25.079
Yeah, so well it's easy to do.

714
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:28.360
Actually you just tell you like you just get a

715
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:31.000
new utility bill and say, oh, well this is myne

716
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:34.559
you know, say you did. Especially nowadays, it's easier because

717
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.760
you can digitally sign up for things and put your

718
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:38.920
fake name in.

719
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:42.519
You know, right right, and they don't question it. You know.

720
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:46.119
Well, there's got to be more to tie in to

721
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:48.440
be able to continue to use that if you go

722
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:49.519
to work for somebody.

723
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.800
I oh yeah, yah, yeah, yeah, I feel like this

724
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:56.039
guy was Maybe he wasn't the real estate agent. Maybe

725
00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:58.960
that was Kane. That was probably Kane. But any way, I.

726
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:03.119
Mean back then, it is easier, easier as far as

727
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:07.159
like other things, like more variety of things too.

728
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:10.880
Yeah, I would still think that there would have to

729
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.000
be some type of legal name change in order to

730
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:17.320
continue to live in existence under a name.

731
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:19.079
Otherwise people would find you.

732
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:21.280
You know, let's just say I want to be called Merrill,

733
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:24.920
but my last name is really Margolis. Your information in

734
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.360
the system is going to be Margolis, and people can

735
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.880
find you. So just because you want to call yourself Meryl,

736
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.760
if you're not actively changing that, it's not changed on

737
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:35.679
your credit report. You're not able to use that name

738
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:38.079
in order to get a place to rent, or to

739
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:40.320
buy a house, or to do all of these things

740
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:41.639
that a normal person would do.

741
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:45.199
Yeah.

742
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.280
Yeah, So again, it would be interesting if he had

743
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.840
done a legal name change as to when that happened

744
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:56.679
and what so that's easier to find. Came up with, Well,

745
00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:58.400
if that's easy for you to find missing, then you

746
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:05.360
find it. I'm just trying to say, hey.

747
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:04.119
I dates.

748
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.679
I mean, I just need the dates of the variations

749
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:09.719
of where you're in between at and that, and then

750
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:10.960
just go through the pages.

751
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.400
Oh I never paid attention to baber So I got

752
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:18.639
this email from Sandy Betts back in December before he

753
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:21.760
had published the article on December twenty third or twenty fifth,

754
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:24.199
or whenever it was that he claimed Marvin Margolis, and

755
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:24.920
the media.

756
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:25.920
Picked it up and ran with it.

757
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:29.719
So I was sitting on this and when I reread it,

758
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:33.119
and I said, Babber, Why do I know Baber? Like again,

759
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:35.800
I'm not going to commit too many people, especially fake people,

760
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:40.360
to my memory, but I know I saw that somewhere

761
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:43.039
Where's Baber? And holy crap, if it wasn't the next

762
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:46.159
big suspect I was going to talk about, I'm like,

763
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.800
there's your circle jerk people, and we can see here

764
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:52.599
to the right, this is the La Times and Inside

765
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:59.719
Edition that are producing miniature videos and comments and responses

766
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:04.880
to Black Dallion. Zodiac's case is solved. Like, oh my gosh,

767
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.760
absolutely insane, but I'm glad you all hopped on board.

768
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.440
Now we know what the media is up to. So

769
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:14.559
looking at this La Times, he.

770
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.880
Was Marvin Skipton Mark Goulis born March twenty fifth of

771
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:21.320
nineteen twenty five, so his age range is within range.

772
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:23.719
He's five foot nine inches and one hundred.

773
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:24.360
And fifty pounds.

774
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:28.960
Again, very small to be what we know as the Zodiac.

775
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:33.079
No pop belly, probably no lumber, the glasses that were

776
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:35.119
actually put on here every picture and we'll see every

777
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:36.639
picture that I found of this man, he does not

778
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:40.239
wear glasses, so these glasses were inserted to make him

779
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:45.719
appear more like the actual composite he died nineteen eight money.

780
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:48.000
They do it to almost every single one of them too.

781
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:51.519
Right, Yeah, And then every picture that I find, even

782
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:56.719
driver's licenses, they're not wearing glasses. Purportedly dated Elizabeth Short

783
00:40:56.960 --> 00:40:59.400
at twenty two years of age in nineteen forty six

784
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:03.480
in Chicago, Illinois. That would have made when Elizabeth Short

785
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:05.440
was twenty two, that would have made him twenty one.

786
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.159
Now I tend to feel like she was probably dating

787
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:08.840
above him.

788
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:10.639
I mean, as far.

789
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:13.559
As she's pretending she's a journalist, she wants to be

790
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:16.360
an actress. Are you really going to just date some

791
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:18.400
random twenty one year old from the Navy.

792
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:23.679
Probably not. Yeah, I get Here's more La Times.

793
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:26.519
So LA Times very big, and we know LA Times

794
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:30.559
is involved with many things, including one of their investigative

795
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.760
reporters was Tom Boyd's father. So whenever I see LA

796
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:36.679
Times jump on this stuff and just start spreading, spreading

797
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:38.880
and spreading, And then we also see from Reddit, but

798
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:41.440
Reddit is just repeating what La Times said.

799
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:44.880
Somebody had indicated. I've read everything.

800
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:46.760
Released so far about Marvin Margullis, and I have to

801
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:49.280
say that this is one of the best suspects I've

802
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:49.880
ever seen.

803
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.519
Upon first looking at them had shown.

804
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.360
I thought, Wow, that's him. But most of the outlets

805
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:58.480
are stating that this image was enhanced. I'm hoping this

806
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.960
just means some brightness adjustments. However, the glasses appear to

807
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:03.920
be added on, and it makes me doubt if the

808
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:06.800
image has been altered in a significant way beyond that,

809
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.360
and if they are willing to alter this image in

810
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:13.119
a major way, that dishonesty hurts the validity of their claims.

811
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:16.320
I'm certainly open to Margolis being the Zodiac and even

812
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:19.639
the Black Dollia killer too. Nevertheless, I am eagerly awaiting

813
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.519
further evidence beyond what has been made public so far.

814
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.159
I think there will need to be a smoking gun here,

815
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:27.760
really close the case, and that just may not exist

816
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:30.840
after so much time has passed. Very well said people,

817
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:34.760
but he's not it. Now. Here's some pictures of Marvin Margolis,

818
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:40.039
Marvin Meryl and up here he's calling himself Skip Meryll. Right,

819
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:44.880
this is definitely after Zodiac or after Black Dahlia passed.

820
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:46.760
He looks much older.

821
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:50.159
This timeframe right here in the military uniform would probably

822
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:53.320
be closer to the age and timeframe that he had

823
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:57.239
met and dated Black Dahlia. So now he's going by

824
00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:01.079
skip Merrill. Well, nobody mentioned that, so obviously he's still

825
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:01.880
using Meryl.

826
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:02.760
That means.

827
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:07.079
That he didn't change it immediately after she died, because

828
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:08.719
he's definitely much older here.

829
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:11.039
He is missing a lot of hair. But they see

830
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:12.400
if I can see.

831
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:16.039
But say, in these photos, you can definitely tell that

832
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:17.519
he's very petite.

833
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.880
Man, very petite, Yeah, very very small, is a man

834
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:22.119
of many talents.

835
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:22.639
That says.

836
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:27.199
What he might mean to Wellington is this and an

837
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:31.960
entire new enthusiasm for creativity.

838
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:36.079
In the arts. He hopes to form a Wellington art

839
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:39.559
something I don't know. I can't read it, it's so small. Anyways.

840
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:44.639
Margolis, now another person workat Yuzuo, says Margolis didn't wear glasses.

841
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:46.920
If you look at the picture of Margolis, you can

842
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:49.800
see that those glasses were drawn on and not very

843
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:54.039
well because the top they stopped short of going over

844
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:57.239
his age laugh out loud, Yeah, and how is Alex?

845
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:01.639
How is Alex able to receive a phone call? In

846
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:03.840
two thousand and seven from Margolis when he died in

847
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:06.920
nineteen ninety three. Alex phoned me in two thousand and

848
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:09.000
seven telling me it was Larry Kine, who was our

849
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:12.880
suspect Zodiac at that time. When someone makes up even

850
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.199
one lie, how do you trust anything else? He has

851
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:17.119
to say the Zodiac is not dead.

852
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:18.440
He is very much alive.

853
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:20.840
Oh my god.

854
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.599
So so now we've got two or at least now

855
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:27.800
we've got two other versions of Alex Baber saying somebody

856
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.920
is the Zodiac and that was completely untrue. So we

857
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:33.760
can't trust a word that this man says. I'm sorry

858
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:36.000
that they put everybody through this. It always gets everyone

859
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:39.199
hype around me. I get a million phone calls and texts.

860
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:48.320
They solved it again again again.

861
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.920
Who did you know that there's another recent guy that

862
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:55.119
came out and said his dad was the Zodiac.

863
00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:01.880
No, which one was that? God Niche Mitch. I can't

864
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:02.760
think of his last name.

865
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:05.360
I'll have to I'll stop have to send it to you,

866
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.559
But it was it was one of the witnesses that

867
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:11.800
was at Fort Wachuka. I'm sure you've seen the Fort

868
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:18.199
Watchuka stuff that Candice Owens has exposed as a military

869
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:22.440
base well, she was a he was a witness there

870
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:25.800
during a during particular time period where she when she's

871
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:30.800
investigating Charlie Kirk's case, and he came out randomly apparently

872
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:34.079
and said that he thought that his dad was the Zodiac.

873
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.400
And I haven't even went down that hole. I just

874
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:39.280
kind of ignored that and just put it in the

875
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.320
back of my head because I was like, no.

876
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:43.800
Well, if you do get any information on it, you

877
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:44.119
know we.

878
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:47.199
Are literally I feel like this entire podcast has revolved

879
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:50.519
around outing all the fake suspects and the individuals of

880
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:53.440
that are putting them forth so that we know not.

881
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:54.639
To trust these sites.

882
00:45:55.719 --> 00:46:01.880
Now here's pictures of Margolis with the Zodiac compot, and

883
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:05.159
of course we can see the differences, and one of

884
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.360
the ones that I wanted to actually point out is

885
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:11.960
his ears goes straight up, not flared out, and when

886
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.320
we look at Jack's we see Jack's flared out right.

887
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:21.320
His chin is very pointy versus this very blunt and

888
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:24.280
wide chin with the dimple. I don't even see a

889
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:28.519
dimple in Margolis's. However, we can see the very wide

890
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:31.320
chin of Jack, and we can see the dimple that

891
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:34.519
he has in his chin. So many of these things

892
00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:37.760
were taken down properly by officer Folk, and he was

893
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:41.320
capable of maintaining an image in his mind of what

894
00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:44.320
he saw, and he pretty much nailed every aspect as

895
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:47.199
it compares to Jack. I also brought back the commission

896
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:53.159
Zodiac composite by Sonoma County Sheriff's Don Stripkey, done in

897
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:54.360
nineteen seventy five.

898
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:56.079
I don't know how much guff I.

899
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:59.440
Got from Tom Boyd's crew and trolls, should I say,

900
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:03.639
not group, but from his trolls about how this particular

901
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:07.880
composite was not drawn by Sonoma County, that it was

902
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:12.199
drawn by somebody else from another investigative reporter, I believe,

903
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:13.679
from a newspaper.

904
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:14.239
Out out east.

905
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:18.039
But somebody's producing in a book that it was actually

906
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:19.840
done by Sonoma County Sheriff's Department.

907
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:20.639
So hmm.

908
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:24.079
I wonder why everybody's confused and quoting the wrong stuff,

909
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:28.480
because there's so much disinformation out there now. I did

910
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:31.159
take a look at some of Marvin's handwriting. It was very,

911
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:33.679
very small what I had to look at. One of

912
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:36.400
the things I did note was this capital letter L

913
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:41.320
that he uses in his handwriting, which is improper.

914
00:47:41.400 --> 00:47:43.480
Obviously, in the middle of lowercase writing.

915
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.039
But I did not note any capital letter l's in

916
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:49.079
the middle of lowercase writing and the zodiac letters, So

917
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:53.559
right there, that is a significant, significant, unexplainable difference. We

918
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:56.480
would have seen him accidentally drop it somewhere along the

919
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:59.079
lines if in fact he was the author, due to

920
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:01.760
the amount, in the enormity of the amount of writing

921
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:04.840
that was done in these cases. One thing I saw

922
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:08.440
that obviously everybody was very very in tune too, was

923
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.079
the capital letter M made in two strokes. Now, you guys,

924
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.639
you can make an M in two strokes, three strokes,

925
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:20.199
one stroke. These are not unusual or highly significant values.

926
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:23.079
But what we want to see then is the differences

927
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:27.440
between the way it leans, the length of the legs,

928
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:29.960
because we kept seeing these very long legs with this

929
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:33.360
very shallow If I was to put a crossbar about here,

930
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:38.119
it's just above half that the midpoint of this M

931
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:41.400
comes down, which is consistent both with the capital ms

932
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.480
in Marvin and in Margolis. And we can see that

933
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.559
that variation, the way that it leans, the direction that

934
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:51.360
the actual points point, all of these are differences. So

935
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:56.639
while the construction is similar, everything else is different. Yeah,

936
00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:58.880
and I also wanted to bring forth his letter G.

937
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.440
So I went back, just like I did with Lawrence Kane,

938
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:04.400
and picked out some of the letters that I did

939
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.880
not see occur in the communications. And when we look

940
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:09.679
at this letter G up here in the right hand

941
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.639
corner from Marvin Margolis, you'd be hard pressed to find

942
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.800
that type of G in any of these actual writings.

943
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:19.199
In fact, when the perpetrator or the suspect attempts to

944
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:21.679
write their letter g's in what I would say, that

945
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:25.000
type of fashion, you can see how awkward and unusual

946
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:27.719
it looks. It's nothing like what we see going on here,

947
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.119
and even the shape of the goal is completely different.

948
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:33.079
So I still look back at these and I look

949
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:36.840
at Jackson say that you know these this is jackx g's.

950
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:41.400
It's not Marvin Margolis's g's for sure. Also with the

951
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:47.119
letter else, the jacks look like nines right exactly.

952
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:49.840
I've got just a couple seconds here I should actually

953
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:51.960
be closing out, but here on the letter L, just

954
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:54.480
to be able to finish up this presentation. You can

955
00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:56.840
look through here yourself all you want, and you'll be

956
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:59.599
hard pressed to find any l's that actually look this

957
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:02.559
potent killer shape as you go through, you do find

958
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:05.239
though that they are all consistent with Jack's letter. Ls

959
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:08.639
I did put the m's together so that you could

960
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:14.199
see the ms again, major differences. And then this writing

961
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:16.760
was actually found in a box and it said Elizabeth

962
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:19.719
Marty Merrill nineteen ninety two. But this doesn't look anything

963
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:23.320
like Elizabeth Short and supposedly it's covering up what they

964
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:26.239
claim to be damage to the breast, which supports that

965
00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:28.119
he was the one that killed her. Well, he could

966
00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:30.440
have just mimicked an image that he saw her. So

967
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:33.119
we'll leave off here. Yeah, we'll leave off here. It

968
00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:36.519
looks like we've got diagrams and other things to visit

969
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:39.440
for Marvin Mark Goullis. That excludes him. So I want

970
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:42.239
to thank you Lindsay for being here. Awesome speak on

971
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:43.159
Martin Luther.

972
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:43.920
King and.

973
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:51.079
Exculpting these particular fake suspects. We'll be looking more at

974
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:53.880
this next week as we finish off with Marvin Mark Goulis.

975
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:56.079
I hope everybody has a wonderful weekend and we'll see

976
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you next Friday.

977
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