Handwriting Compilation Y, Z, and Punctuation

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True seekers and true crime junkies.
Welcome back to another episode of Hit the

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Road Jack Finding the Zodiac. Today
we have Nolan del Campo with us again

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as we finish off the alphabet in
our WIS and z's today, let's welcome

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Nolan on. Good morning, Good
morning everybody. I love the tide Eye.

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Thank you from where for you?
Nice? You just went not too

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long ago, right, Yeah,
I got where I was down there.

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Yeah yeah, jealous. I'm trying
to get myself off onto a vacation,

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but gosh, I just seemed to
be too busy to be able to pull

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away hopefully soon. All right,
So there wasn't a lot of research this

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last week. I did have a
couple of people comment on YouTube, which

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I thought was rather interesting. One
individual thought that it was bogus that Dennis

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had found the hood inside of the
PA system and that he magically decided to

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open this PA system while it was
being video videoed by somebody. I thought

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that that was kind of interesting that
somebody would think that, yeah, Dennis

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would be smart enough not only to
make a hood, that it would be

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the correct material that predated the murders. That he had no idea or concept

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really of what the police or FBI
might have been hiding or keeping to themselves

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in regards to what that would look
like. Yet he felt compelled to turn

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it over to the FBI, who
still has it in their possession. But

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nothing short of a coincidence, and
it really isn't a coincidence. Jack had

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been asking about that PA system on
several occasions and had indicated if Dennis ever

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got rid of it, that he
should return it to Jack. And so

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when he started to think about this
PA system as he was going through Jack's

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stuff finally to get rid of a
bunch of things, he just thought,

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why I'm going to open it up? I guess it was kind of the

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concept. And when he opened it
up, he saw that something was inside

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there that he didn't believe Obviously a
piece of material doesn't belong on the inside

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of a radio receiver, right,
So he closed it back up immediately and

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then got his friend to come over
with a video camera and then proceeded to

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reopen that PA system and out came
that hood. So for people who think

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that you know that was something that
was set up, or that you know

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it was some you know, phenomenal
coincidence that Dennis did this, he I

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don't think Dennis was smart enough to
put this together in a way that would

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have deceived law enforcement in any way. And people have to remember when Dennis

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was turning over evidence, he has
no idea what they believed to be authentic

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or not. But I'm sure that
they had a concept of what they were

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looking for, and if that didn't
fit the bill, then the FBI would

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have told that Dennis immediately that that's
nothing like what the Zodiac wore. What

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would you think, Nolan, Well, didn't they say that they couldn't confirm

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reyn either was the actual Zodiac,
could but that the fibers in the garment

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were made prior to the murders,
so it could be correct. They won't

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give it back. Yeah, they
haven't given it back, and obviously if

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they're keeping it at some piece of
evidence, then they believe it to be

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conforming or fitting to what was explained
by Brian Hart. Now, they called

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it a juke juke fabric, and
that juke fabric did in fact pre date

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the murders. So that means that
that that piece of material, and albeit

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you can see the folds and the
material, because it had sat in the

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machine for that long, indicates that
it had been there for quite some time,

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right, I mean, and who
knows. Maybe Jack wasn't the person

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who donned the hood, but he
was the one that was the possessor or

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the keeper of it and the author
of the crimes. Like, there's a

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lot of different ways I think that
this could go. As I've said in

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the past, I believe Jack is
in fact a killer, Yes he's admitted

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to that. I do believe that
he is responsible for many of the crimes

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briefs, But is there a chance
that he's also an author in regards to

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some of them to kind of deter
the police from figuring out who really is

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responsible for some of these crimes?
Who knows? Anyways, let's get back

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into the PowerPoint presentation. I am
looking at the letter why we started this

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off last week. One of the
things I did fail to mention last week

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is that one of the nuances that
Jack actually uses in his writing, which

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is this letter why, so,
his capital letter ys are always positioned like

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a lowercase why. So this particular
read why that I'm pointing out here is

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actually a capital why. And you
can see that because he extends the arm

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of it so far up into the
sky, as if to make it as

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tall as some of your upper gender
letters. And so that, I guess

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is one of the things when I
come back to where he positioned wise,

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such as the ones over here in
the Dear draft Board, which looks like

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a U sitting on top of a
stem, is because Jack literally does not

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know how to form a capital y, or does not form sorry a capital

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y in his own writing. And
we talked about some of those other ones,

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like Sorry Mary, where we see
the stem and then it looks like

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the V shape of the Y is
placed on top kind of offset there,

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kind of a little wonky looking,
but you see that throughout many of them,

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including Anthrax, and for the most
part, though we see the lower

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y formation in these letters. I
want to say, you remember where we

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left off No One. Well,
I thought we're almost finished with Wise.

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I thought so too. I think
we kind of made it down into let's

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see here. Well, needless to
say, we can go back and forth

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and see these U shaped wise like
the one over here in the Oakland County

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Child Murder. This one is extremely
similar to what's going on in Sherry Joe

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Bates. This intention to kind of
disguise. We saw her happen as early

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as the Lipstick Killer. And then
we had these um what I referred to

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as this funky why that we see
down here in the Scorpion letter, which

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has been consistent and we've seen it
with these small heads and tall long tails

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in many of the otherwise such as
the Fairfield letter right there in the Dear

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draft Board letter. Here, back
and forth, you can find it all

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over this display. Here's another one
in the Zodiac Killer that is very similar

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to the Scorpions. John Man A. Ramsey was nothing short of again similarities

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that were being found with the small
heads of the y and the long tails.

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Again, we get to see some
of that funky form that is used

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with the this why here that is
again consistent with the wise up in the

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Deer draft Board and the Zodia at
one of Bitch again we had the same

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slant, We had the same style. Everything was kind of running intandem with

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what we've been looking at, including
this one over here again with a very

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small head and a very long tail. Anthrax only used capital wise. But

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once again, like I said,
those were the stem placement with the V

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shape of the y head being placed
on top of that stem. When I

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got into Tom Void's WISE, I
actually found that they're extremely consistent with Jack's

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and extremely consistent with the rest of
the writing that we've been looking at.

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Here I have the slant bars.
Of course, you can go through here

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and find that the slants of these
wise are consistent with every single communication,

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not differing one from the next.
Now, it's not so much of a

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huge identifier that the slant is the
same. It's really kind of that it

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isn't different. So we're not seeing
a run of WISE that hold a different

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slant on the plane. It's basically
that every single time we look at wise

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that look more fluidly written, we
find that they have this hard right slant

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that we were talking about, like
with that maniacal d A couple of weeks

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ago. The different to me or
the deer draft board, and of course

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the John Benny Ramsey, they always
look different. But the Anthrax and the

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Tim Miller look similar to each other, yes, exactly. So when you

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when you go back and forth between
the communications, you can find that the

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disguise that was used in one communication
is definitely the disguise that was used in

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another communication. I do trade.
And note this stem that comes off on

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John Benny Ramsey. We can see
it actually curving to the right here at

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the bottom, so it has that
hook as if it's moving off to the

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right. Definitely something that Jack did
in his own writing, and it was

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definitely con instant with what we were
seeing down here in the Tom Voight letter.

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Ys. We can see at the
bottom here that hook that picks up

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at the bottom. So some of
these minute nuances. But here's that U

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shaped one again that we found up
there in the Lipstick killing case. And

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of course I noted it wherever I
found it all over these particular documents,

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but it did find it in the
DC Freeway Phantom again. So while three

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or four, sorry four out of
the five ys and the DC Freeway Phantom

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you can tell that there are two
strokes there. So he did the stem

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and then he did the arm.
But in one of them he actually did

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a single stroke y, which is
that you shape that we're talking about,

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and that is definitely consistent with the
one we see down here and John Benny

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Ramsey. We see the little arms
that have the curvature as it moves into

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the stem. That is definitely consistent
right there with Jack's let's see here.

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Other than the actual let's see,
I also found a quincid are not a

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coincidence a similarity in one of Tom
Voight's wise here with another one in the

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presentation. Let me see if I
can figure out where that one is.

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I hate going back and looking forward. I wish I had a much larger

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screen to put all of this on
any who that it's in there somewhere.

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And then yes, the finale letter
to Tim Miller. Again, I think

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that a lot of this was an
attempt to be more copybook straight, which

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is why it's more consistent with the
Anthrax letters as well. But anywhere you

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go up and you find some of
those copybook wise where he actually attempted to

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make it look strictly like a print
or text. We find that those wise

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are constructed in that manner. All
right, So I'm not sure where we

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left off last week, but you
can go through. Anything circled in red

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means that it matches one of the
other crime scenes. Anything in blue means

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that it actually matches Jack and the
famous letters. Z Oh boy. I

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did not obviously have a lot to
work with on here, so it's going

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to be a short slide. He
did find zs in the Sherry Drobe Bates

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letter, in the Fairfield Letters,
the Zodiac Killer Letters, the Channel nine

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letter, the Herb Kane Atlanta,
Georgia, Sacramento Scorpion, John Benny Ramsey.

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I also found a Z in though
it's it's obviously horrible, horrible image

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of it. In Anthrax we had
a Z and then Tim Miller and Tom

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Voight we had z's. So let's
talk about those for a minute. The

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z's that I mapped out for Jack, he has these rounded versions, but

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he also has the very angular versions. And one of the things that I

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noted for Jack was the small crossbar
on top with the very long crossbar on

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the bottom, and then and kind
of an offset. I only saw it

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happened this one time where the actual
top portion of the Z, the crossbar

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there was a little bit longer than
the bottom portion of it. And actually

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it happened in two of them there. So when I started cross comparing these,

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I was actually able to lay out
some lines so that we can go

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straight to the ones that we were
looking for. The black Dahlia letter Z

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right here was consistent with the shape
and formation of the Z here in the

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zodiac. Let's see here this particular
Z, and well the size of the

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crossbar at the top and that the
bottom are similar with the Z found here

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in the zodiac's writing. The Channel
nine newsletter again also very consistent with that

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version of Jack's Z, this particular
one in the Channel nine newsletter. I'm

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sorry, so this is the Citizen
letter and this is the Channel nine newsletter.

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So we had a match between Jack
and the Channel nine and in the

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Citizen letter we had more. Now, the top is a little bit different

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with this curvature that's happening here,
but I notated it for the bottom and

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the way that bottom shape is actually
coming to more of an angular point there

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on the left, while it still
is rounded. It is consistent with what

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Jack was doing over here in these
first few zs in the Zodiac Roum.

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I actually found that this turned down
bottom crossbar was consistent with what we were

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seeing in Tom Void's writing, and
it actually happens a couple times here in

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the Zodiac's writing. Though we also
have this version again that I was saying

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that was more rounded or was rounded, but with it a little bit of

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an angularity, again very consistent with
Jack's handwriting. We go back and forth.

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So this letter Z right here in
the Fairfield or in the Zodiac letters

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is consistent with the herb cane,
but we know that because herb canes were

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written by the Zodiac. We also
had a consistency with the urb Kane guest

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letter, and that letter Z was
consistent with another letter Z found in the

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Zodiacs writing. I did find a
consistency with the letter Z here in the

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Zodiacs writing to the finale letter from
Tim Miller. This curvature or it's actually

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bending in two different directions. It
comes down and then back up again,

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so it has a wave basically to
the bottom crossbar in one of the Zodiac

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zs, which is definitely consistent with
what we see going on in Tom Void's

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letter z's. Let's see here,
so a consistency between the guest letter as

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well with the Tim Miller. As
far as the size the slit in the

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shape, it almost reminded me that
some of these z's were kind of hunched

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backwards, like a snake getting ready
to strike something. I kind of just

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idealized an image in my mind,
like terry beds. Again, over here,

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we can see it in almost that
shape of that number two. Look,

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as we were talking about before,
I think when Jack writes naturally,

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it's more like a number two,
but when he's trying to be proper,

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it's more like a regular Z,
like a textbook Z. And I think

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with the zodiacs, most of them
were like textbook z's. And I think

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that's on purpose, right right,
well, And we can see here that

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number two structure that you were just
mentioning, And we can see up here

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in Jack's again that number two structure
so rounded at the top right hand corner

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and angular at the bottom. Now, of course the slant is different between

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these two, but we know that
he was manipulating his slant in many of

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these letters, some of these other
shapes in the Fairfield letter, we can

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see the sharpness and angularity of those
points are very consistent with Tom voids as

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well. Uh. Let's see here. I want to I should have marked

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the scorpion one right here, because
that is consistent with the Tim Miller.

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Um. Here we've got that downturned
crossbar again on the bottom, very consistent

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with what was going on in Tom
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letter to Tom Voight was taking credit
from being the Zodiac, and while Tom

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Voight believes that it's not from the
Zodiac, I find that there are far

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too many consistencies with the Zodiac's handwriting
for it to not have been him.

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Um. Again, this is this
leads back to that evidence thing. Um

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Nolan, let's get I'm gonna go
back with Nolan on screen here. Um.

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When the Zodiac wrote to Tom Voight, can you bring up Nolan please?

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Is he still there here? Oh? Okay, I'll see you anymore.

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Um. When when the Zodiac wrote
Tom Voight, he submitted fingerprints in

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DNA, and he stated that he
would that this would identify him and that

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Tom voy would know who he is, And so in a follow up letter,

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he then hells Tom Voy by now
you know who I am because he

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sent him this stuff. Why would
there would be no benefit for anyone,

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I would think to submit evidence that
would exclude them, right, I mean

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if you're trying to take credit for
it, which is gonna odd too,

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because if the FBI or some other
law enforcement has any trace evidence of DNA

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things like that, then there could
be a match by him doing that.

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He obviously figured that they did not
have that evidence. No, well no,

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I think he did know that they
had this. This These letters were

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written into two thousand and one and
two thousand and three, so let me

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just give you that background. So
well after the crimes, well after it

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had been established that there was DNA
on the letters. Yeah yeah, So

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if he had thought that they didn't
have any, it would have been worthless

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to send it in, right,
Okay, Yeah, I mean, how

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are you going to out yourself and
say, I am who I am,

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here's the proof if they didn't have
anything to match or compare it to.

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So, in my mind, I
would think that the author believed that they

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had something that it could compare that. And also in these letters, when

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we get to him, you'll see
he's trying to talk Tom into adopting his

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story of the events to make a
real movie, because I believe that they're

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in the makes of some type of
a movie or maybe a documentary or something

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that's going on. And he's reaching
out to Tom saying, I have the

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real story. You want my story, here's my evidence to prove I am

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who I say I am. And
then that follow up letter comes in two

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years later saying, by now you
know who I am? So why would

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another again? Would somebody presume that
they had made that match? And when

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you get into the Tim Miller letter
in two thousand and five and he states

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that the secret killer is no longer
secret. Basically he's out at himself.

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But why why the identification hasn't been
made is key? So I do believe

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that he was attempting to let these
people know who he was, what he

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was up to, and that kind
of in my mind, it kind of

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solidifies it. It's no different than
Dennis turning over this hood. If Dennis

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had created this hood, fabricated the
whole entire thing. Let's say he was

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smart enough to go out and find
juke fabric that existed before in nineteen sixty

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nine in order to make this hood
then to turn it over knowing that it

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was all completely fake and fraudulent,
and that that could be torn apart and

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blow his entire case that he has
been working on for at this point in

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two thousand and eight, when he
turns over the hood, he's been working

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on this case for eight years.
Why would he do something that would jeopardize

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and blow his credibli out of water. I just don't see that he would,

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Okay, so right, yeah,
So basically to identifying himself as Zodiac,

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not as Jack Curs, but correct. Correct. He wanted to say

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he was Zodiac. I have the
real story. We can make this omega

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hit. Some of the keywords in
this letter is that he can make the

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movie or whatever it is that Tom
Boyd's involved with at this point in time,

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a mega hit like it should be
by telling the truth about what really

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happened in these events. So for
Tom to negate, it is almost as

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if to say that he has purposely
and specifically done everything he can to admit

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the solving of this case, even
when it comes to an individual handing out

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DNA and fingerprints and everything else.
Excuse me, now, I also noticed

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in the Tim Miller or We Again
had these I call him tailgates. We

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have these tailgate tick marks that are
at the top, coming down from the

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top of the crossbar on the Z
and coming up from the bottom of the

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crossbar on the Z. And that
was something that I noticed that Jack had

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done with several letters. We seen
it happen in it l Oh go back.

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We seen it happen in the L. We seen it happen in the

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C, and then even in the
Elizabeth short we also saw it happen.

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And this was in I want to
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But for whatever reason, he placed
that crossbar up there that made it very

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very much more like a square C
than the letter L. But it still

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has that up kick or that tailgate
that I was just talking about. And

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I found that in the Tim Miller
letter, And of course that was not

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a shock to me since we know
that's one of the manipulations that Jack does.

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And then I didn't really kind of
cover while I said it was a

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wonky appearance, we do see that
this is also that number two style Z

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in the John Benet Ramsey letters.
So again, when I was looking at

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some of Jack's been talking about that
number two style we see it in a

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few of these letter z's where it's
curved at the top like a number two

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and then has an extremely long tail
on the bottom, And that's what was

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going on in the John Benny Ramsey, all right, well that makes it

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for the alphabet. We have finally
completed it. Oh my goodness. Yeah,

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I just don't see. I don't
see somebody going out of their way

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to write a lengthy two page letter
to Tom Voight to include DNA, DNA

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and fingerprints, claiming to be the
zodiac, offering the true story, and

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then following up with another letter that
states, by now you know who I

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am because of what I've already provided
you. Again, that would seem futile.

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If he wasn't that individual and there
wasn't any evidence to make that comparison

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too, then he wouldn't have,
I don't think, asserted in that second

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letter that you know who I am
based on the evidence, right, Yes,

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correct, So I'm going to leave
it with that. Definitely, of

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all of the letters that we matched, and here Tom Voight's seems to match

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Jack's and the zodiacs the best,
because again it's more natural handwriting. I

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think you should remind the listeners and
viewers who Tom Void is and what he

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does. Tom Voight runs and manages
the Zodiac Killer website he in nineteen ninety

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eight. I want to say he
copyrighted the website, and I want to

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and buy two thousand and five.
As far as I can tell, two

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thousand and three, two thousand and
five, he was given all the evidence,

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all of the images, all of
the newsreels, everything and all the

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information. Should anybody from the news
or from moviemaking have any questions, he

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is the go to guru of the
Zodiac case as they'd like to stay.

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And of course, at that same
time, a majority of the letters went

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missing, but he seems to have
high resolution color copies of it. He

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seems to be in possession of evidence
and items that should not be provided.

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I would assume to the public if
they were trying to keep things as close

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to the hip as they lead other
people to believe when it comes to this

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case. But I find that he
has promoted several different false suspects, and

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we have broken apart several of those
suspects. When I first came onto the

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scene, he had Arthur Lee Allen
listed as a suspect now it's because that

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oh gosh, oh, I just
because Geikowski. I was gonna second,

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what is that name Geikowski which appears
to have been eliminated. They just don't

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fit the bill. But so it
looks to me like he is making money

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off of many of these images by
providing them in movies, documentaries, and

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other things, while maintaining the mystery
this is an unsolved murder, when in

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fact, I believe that he knows
exactly who committed it. He was contacted

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by the individual, and that cross
reference in handwriting has been made to identify

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Jack Terrence. So that brings us
to punctuation. And I'm going to be

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bringing this up at the end of
the presentation when I'm finished with all the

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letters and communications, because there are
several letters I realized that did not make

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it into this. But I wanted
to brief you guys just a little bit

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on some of the nuances, punctuation, and the things that were consistent between

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the communications outside of the actual alphabet
itself. So I wanted to start with

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the A sign in Jack's writing,
and I have been drawn directly over to

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where you can see matches in these
particular styles and forms of the AND sign,

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and they're very consistent with the Zodiac
killers. We see these funky little

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curved ones. Obviously that's the disguise
that was attempt to being used. But

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then we start to see these more
angular ones in free flowing definitely more naturally

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written and signs that are all extremely
consistent with the form that Jack shows laying

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down a slant bar across the forward
slash in Jack's handwriting, we can see

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here was consistent with other forward slashes
that were found, and also consistent with

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the slant of many of these AND
signs as I went back and forth,

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and we can see here how close
that slant line is to the slant of

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the Channel nine News and John Benny
Ramsey percentage signs that were placed in those

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letters. Now, let's see we
did find consistency between the dB Cooper letter

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and which is here, which I
also found. This one picks up.

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It's very light, you cannot see
it, but there is a curvature here

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and it works its way back up
into that loop and exits itself out,

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so we can see that he does
have a I have it at least of

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moving to the right as he does
it. So we have two different styles.

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We have one where they draw from
top to bottom of the stem and

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then they exit on the left hand
side of the stem as they move into

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the loop and then cross back to
the right, very consistent with Jack's writing.

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However, we did find in several
of these, including let's see the

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zodiac right here, we can see
that he drew the stem down and then

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by virtue of the second line of
ink right here, making that that much

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thicker than he actually exited to the
right before moving leftward into the loop and

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back into the right into the exit. So we can see that that is

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one of the attempted disguises is to
move to the right instead of to the

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left as these more natural ones are
done. Yeah, disguise. Yeah,

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what's that four on the zodiac,
the one that you were just examining,

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Yeah, four, and it's thicker. Yeah, it's yeah, attempt at

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disguising exactly. So to me,
when I saw these ones that moved to

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the right rather than the left,
I could not rule them out of something

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he hadn't done, because I can
clearly see in some of these that that's

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exactly what he was doing. Um, we had a plus sign for an

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end in Elizabeth Short, and we
had just a very strict but we can

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see that that is angular on the
left hand side as it moves up.

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And we saw that this particular an
sign and the Elizabeth Short is definitely as

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well in Jack's handwriting right here at
the top. So I found that the

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hand signs were completely consistent. We
see the an signs here and the Tim

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Miller and it's almost as if Jack
can't even form one. We track really

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hard. Of course, this looks
like the best one, but it's like

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the third one in the series of
the letters. So he tries, you

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might right, eventually you'll get it. Between the Deer draft Board and the

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occ K the Oakland County child Murders, we found the use of the number

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eight as an apostrophe in the type
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Board where he wrote don't and shouldn't, we see that in the Oakland County

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Child Murders he did exactly the same
thing, using the number eight instead of

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the apostrophe. That's eerie, right, two different typewritten messages. Yeah,

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and they're not that far report part, honestly, I mean we're only talking

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eight years there. And of course
in ooh. In sixty eight, bom

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comeback. In sixty eight Jack is
in California, and in seventy six Jack

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is in Minnesota, which is just
a hot skip and a jump about twelve

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hours away from where the Oakland County
child murders are occurring in Michigan. Yeah,

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yeah, so like literally just proximity. Again, he just happens to

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be there. Sure, of course, getting into the now, when I

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bring up the punctuation, you guys, you got to understand, not a

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lot of people use punctuation, and
not a lot of people use it correctly.

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And so here I'm really talking about
the use of punctuation and how many

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of these different authors, and I
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likely the same author uses the same
amount and type of punctuation in their letters.

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Now, I did already cover in
the letter Eyes back when we did

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that that there was these period dots
that are formed as circles, or we

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have heavy grinding dots, which has
been seen in the zodiac letters time and

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time. Again, here's a colon
that has the grinding dots and the circular

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pattern. So we know that that's
within Jack's realm, and he's a heavy

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punctuation user, semi colons, colons, periods, and as we go through

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here we get to see things like
Lipstick Killer with the circle eyed dots.

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We had the Zodiac with the circle
I dots, also the semi colon again

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with circles, periods with circles,
we have the semi colon the heavy grinding

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dots, just like we talked about
up there. In Jack's Cherry, Joe

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Bates also used a colon. I
mean, I was just blown away how

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many of these communications actually used colons. Let's go through here. In Lipstick

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Killer, in one of the typewritten
messages from Bill Hyrons, there was a

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colon used in the Sorry Merrit letter
colon Sherry, Joe Bates, the Oswald

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In regards to the JFK. We
had a semi colon used in Deer draft

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Board twice. Zodiac used it.
Let's see the Winovich letter also contained colon.

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The Exorcist letter from the Zodiac.
We have Hurricane, the Herb Kane,

408
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:22.039
the Atlanta Georgia Killer. Let's see
here so that that's primarily just about

409
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:28.920
all of them. There was a
colon used which I've handled cases where I

410
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:36.480
do examination and identification of anonymous text
communications, whether it be emails or social

411
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:43.960
media, and colons have made identifications
in cases because most people aren't using colons

412
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:47.759
these days, and unless you're writing
a book, writer or something like that,

413
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:52.000
most people don't even know what to
do with a colon unless it's followed

414
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:58.000
or used in regards. So like
if they did the R, they might

415
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:00.799
use a colon, but they don't
typically use us it midline or after a

416
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:06.039
name or in the places that we
see or being used by the Zodiac Killer

417
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:12.679
and many of these communications, I
also found exclamation marks you can see just

418
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:15.440
all over the board for every single
one of these letters. Once again,

419
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:21.480
semi colons. We see um,
this question mark was actually turned into a

420
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:29.800
semicolon. And then we have semi
colons with the Zodiac Killer with let's see

421
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:37.920
the Channel nine news letter with let's
see oh, Sherry Joe Bates. There

422
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:45.280
also the use of let's see Nope, I think I covered it, so

423
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:49.360
we've got x oh. And then
I started seeing and this is why I

424
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.360
say, I'm going to have to
go back. In the Sherry Joe Bates

425
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:57.000
typewritten letter, I found the bigware
with the dot dot dot and that stuck

426
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.400
out to me after looking at some
of the dB coopers which also carried the

427
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.880
dot dot dot, and then I
found it again in this um. This

428
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.639
is a letter, and I want
to say this one is in regards.

429
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.880
It's called friction tape or something like
that. It's about chess games. Anyways,

430
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:15.079
I found the dot dot dots again. Albeit there four dot dot dots

431
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:19.840
and these, but it is definitely
something that is running in tandem with what

432
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:25.599
we see going on. The slants. Again, of all of the exclamation

433
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:30.480
marks, we can see that they
are all consistent with that right word slant

434
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.280
that we've been talking about, and
even some of the some equoalents have that

435
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.760
same kind of slant to the right
to them, where the top period dot

436
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:42.880
is more to the right than the
bottom one. So that was consistent with

437
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:49.159
several of the zodiacs as well.
All Right, question marks, I'm gonna,

438
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:52.159
like I said, just getting started
on these, but I wanted to

439
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:55.159
show you how many I have already
discovered used the same punctuation. We had

440
00:35:55.239 --> 00:36:02.079
question marks in Jack's Well Jack,
of course, but in Elizabeth Short Sherry,

441
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:07.840
Joe Bates, the Zodiac Killer,
which included the citizen letter, the

442
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:12.760
Scorpion letters, the Anthrax letter of
the Juinovich letter, and the Tim Miller

443
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.400
finale letter, along with the Dear
draft Board letter, and some of these

444
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:20.440
we can see the different slants that
are taking place here. One of the

445
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:23.159
things that I noticed is that when
I ran the slant bar down the backside

446
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:28.480
of this more angular question mark from
Jack, I saw that it ran across

447
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.800
the top of the period dot at
the bottom, and that was consistent consistent

448
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:36.480
with the angular one I found in
the citizen writing. So when I placed

449
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.239
that same slant bar at the same
angle, because all I do is copy

450
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:43.719
and paste it, it fell right
across the top of the period dot as

451
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:47.760
well. So again just a relation
to that period dot and the angularity and

452
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:52.360
how far back that angularity reaches in
order for that slant bar to map itself

453
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:57.760
out that way on it. But
I did find some that we're leaning more

454
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:01.000
forward as well, like in the
Alley letter to Tim Miller, and then

455
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:08.000
one of the zodiacs happened to have
a far left lean. We also had

456
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:13.320
quotes that were being used, so
I pulled out quotes from Jack quotes and

457
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:19.599
what I refer to as a long
straight comma and that it started out with

458
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.639
the comma and then I just started
picking everything else up. But we did

459
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:25.760
also see the dollar sign being used, so we've got all of those in

460
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:31.199
here for viewing. We have this
common Lipstick Killer, which is obviously created

461
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:36.480
backwards again an attempt to disguise,
but it also happened to be rather large

462
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:40.079
in comparison to the numbers that it
was surrounding. But as we go through

463
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:45.079
Elizabeth Short again, we can see
these long straights in the Sorry Mary,

464
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:52.079
very consistent with what we have going
on in Jack's handwriting. Dollar signs are

465
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:58.039
being used both in Lipstick Killer and
the Well Werewolf and dB Cooper. Let's

466
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.719
see also in John Benny Rams,
I have a lot of dollar signs there.

467
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:06.280
He even used one in Tom Voight's
writing. But as I go through

468
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.840
again, we have these quotes,
and these quotes should be actually facing towards

469
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:17.440
the bee, and Jack has this
natural inclination to face that have them face

470
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:22.599
the opposite direction, So he's using
the wrong side of the quotes in an

471
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:28.719
opposite direction. And I actually found
that happen in the Fairfield Betters. Let's

472
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:32.440
see where else did I find?
Maybe that was the only one. Now

473
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:37.280
So these are two sets of quotes
actually in Tom Voight's letters right here,

474
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:42.840
and we can see that the first
one faces to the right towards the wording,

475
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:46.440
and the ending ones actually face to
the right away from the word as

476
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:54.039
well. Do you find that the
phrase pick off in the Atlanta Georgia didn't

477
00:38:54.199 --> 00:39:00.679
Zodiac use a similar phrase in the
school bus letter where he would pick off

478
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.280
the children one by one as the
answered the school bus yep, the pick

479
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.639
off the kiddies. And in that
actual letter, the Atlanta Georgia letter,

480
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:13.199
he's actually saying, don't you know
who I am? I used to I

481
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:17.119
used to kill um I think women
or something, because the Atlanta Georgia is

482
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:23.280
child murders. So not only is
he using key phrases, but he is

483
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:28.400
also stating that he is the Zodiac
and that's where he used to be and

484
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:30.239
where he used to be killing,
and now he's here doing that. And

485
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:36.079
even then in the Atlanta Georgia,
I also found again these long straight commas.

486
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:39.679
There's one small one that's curved,
but the rest of them pretty much

487
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:45.920
long and straight, just like Jack's. Atlanta Georgia also used quotes. So

488
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:50.760
as far as quotes are concerned.
Let's see we found them in in the

489
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:55.639
Black Doll your Murder, in the
Sherry Joe Bates. We about time for

490
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:07.639
what we see that is quoted there
in the Zodiac Killer letters, the Exorcist

491
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:15.639
letter, the Citizen letter, the
Atlanta, Georgia murders twice we see quotes.

492
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:22.760
Let's see here in Tom Boyd's letter. And then of course we had

493
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:29.440
more commas that were being used.
So again, even in Bruce Ivans,

494
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:35.920
straight long, straight commas, very
consistent with what the Zodiac had going on.

495
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.760
I also notated that the Oakland County
child murders up here, with the

496
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:44.119
heavy grinding dot at the top of
the comma, was also consistent with some

497
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:47.000
of these other ones, especially by
the Zodiac Killer, where we can see

498
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:52.559
that he made that grinding circular dot
at the top before he drugged the tail

499
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.719
down. So that was the consistency
there between that and the Oakland County child

500
00:40:55.840 --> 00:41:04.000
murders. Another thing that the author
liked to do was used, and I've

501
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:08.920
pulled out Jack's here, let's see
or on seven forty one. Okay,

502
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:14.320
we got a few minutes. He
liked to use parentheses, he liked to

503
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:19.440
use hyphenation, to break words and
to actually break thoughts. So instead of

504
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:24.719
using a semicolon or a comma or
something when he adds adds to a sentence,

505
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:30.039
he actually just uses a hyphen instead. He also uses it in strange

506
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:35.559
places, like at the end of
times. So when I started to go

507
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:39.079
through all of these letters, I
found that the Bauerdorf letter, it contains

508
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:44.679
several hyphens that were used in the
typewritten matter. It was found hyphens were

509
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:49.280
found in Elizabeth Short in the Oswald
letter used right there with the semicolon.

510
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:52.760
After the Oswald case. This one
is sort of a hyphen, but it's

511
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.400
more of an error. I want
to say that points from Oswald back to

512
00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:00.199
Ruby, as if you should be
looking to Ruby for the answers. Sherry

513
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:07.920
Joe Bates used parentheses. Dear Draftboard
letter used hyphenation and parentheses. Lipstick Killer

514
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:12.239
used a hyphen. Zodiac Killer used
all of the above. So we had

515
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:16.039
parentheses, we had hyphens, we
had broken words with hyphen, we had

516
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:21.639
starting, we had that again,
that hyphen that occurs around a date or

517
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:27.039
a time sequence, breaking of the
word rampage again with a hyphen, and

518
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.440
gall and sharp, which is a
typewritten letter that was left in New York.

519
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:35.599
Um. These were I think part
of the mentson former Manson family members,

520
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:40.440
gall and Sharp, and they were
also I think members of scientology and

521
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:43.960
they were trying to get away from
all of that. But we saw the

522
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:47.760
hyphen, so we basically broke one
idea with a hyphen before we started another

523
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:53.440
go ahead chart. They were found
dead in a Los Angeles, but they

524
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:58.639
lived in New York and the typewritten
letter was found in New York in their

525
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:04.719
art. So it is thought and
if you follow my reasoning for it,

526
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:09.599
I believe that it was taking out
all of the people. It either involved

527
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:15.119
in some way with the Tate murders
and the four family or the four Manson

528
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:20.639
family members that were killed were kind
of done in a procession and it moved

529
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:25.079
through Pennsylvania out to New York and
possibly were kidnapped or even killed in New

530
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:29.320
York and then brought back and dumped
in LA. Or they were brought back

531
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:32.039
to LA to face whatever it is
they had to face and then killed and

532
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:36.920
dumped. But we'll be looking at
them in nineteen sixty nine as well.

533
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:45.519
DC Freeway Phantom hyphenated as well.
dB Cooper hyphenated through several of the communications.

534
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:51.079
We can see it here where he
hyphens in the newspaper name, which

535
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.679
is also consistent with the Albany,
New York. So Albany, New York

536
00:43:53.719 --> 00:44:00.679
Crimes were again taking it right back
to that area again and making it look

537
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:05.519
like it was a random serial killer. I believe they use parentheses in the

538
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:09.880
SLA letter and in the Citizen letter, we had plenty of hyphenation in parentheses.

539
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:15.440
Once again, Red Phantom showed the
use of parentheses and hyphenation. And

540
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:23.239
that hyphen that that long hyphen that
we saw back here following where did I

541
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:29.559
see that? Can you go back
to the Phantom letter again real quick?

542
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:35.679
Yeah, just at first glanced when
I see it, and it just it's

543
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:38.920
like Zodia. It's definitely Zodia.
Yeah, absolutely, yes, This one

544
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:43.800
is the Count Marco letter. And
of course we see these long, long

545
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:49.880
um hyphens that come off of particular
letters in there, and we continue to

546
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.960
see that. So here in the
Ghost Killer the long hyphen is before the

547
00:44:53.079 --> 00:45:00.159
name instead of after um the greeting. But as we go through here you

548
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:07.800
start to see even more We've got
more hyphenation usage through the zodiac more parentheses

549
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:13.920
and hyphens used in the Channel nine
the occ K Oakland County child murder hyphened

550
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:17.320
again. Two thoughts were hyphens,
so he started one that ended in Roger

551
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:24.960
and then has it picked up after
placing the hyphen Atlanta Georgia child Killer used

552
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:31.719
to hyphen again in the studio name
and before the sign off as the ghost

553
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:36.480
killer. We saw the splitting of
words in Atlanta, Georgia as well,

554
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:43.639
hyphens in Sacramento, hyphens in Scorpion
letter, hyphens in the John Bennet Ramsey

555
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:50.679
letter, parentheses in the Winovich letter. Hyphenation in the zip code of the

556
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:54.440
Anthrax mailings are consistent with the hyphenation
of the tom Void zip codes that were

557
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:58.440
being that we're being executed, and
we saw that in few of them.

558
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:01.920
But we also saw the parentheses as
well, and the hyphens between the word

559
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:08.159
between words in the Tomboyt letters too, So again that boils back to the

560
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:15.960
authors of all of these communications are
using Colon's hyphens, parentheses, quotes,

561
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:22.199
all of the same type of punctuation
as well. Another nuance that I found

562
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:27.960
was the use of arrows. So
Jack was an engineering guy. He worked

563
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:32.360
for General Electric for the nuclear power
plant out in the San Jose area,

564
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:39.320
and when he did diagrams, he
used arrows to dictate which direction wiring was

565
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:45.239
going. We also see the use
of arrows that are curved. And of

566
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:50.280
course, when we got into some
of these communications, the Elizabeth Short used

567
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:55.119
arrows. A nuance between Elizabeth Short
and the Fairfield letters is this five in

568
00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:00.679
hill in Elizabeth Short and five in
mission in the Fairfield Letters. He used

569
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:07.199
basically the same exact concept when describing
a location. The Fairfield letters also had

570
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:12.280
arrows. The Dear draft Board letters
had arrows. The Oswald and JFK Letter

571
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:17.599
arrows, Grime sisters arrows. Let's
see here this is all Zodiac obviously using

572
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:24.000
lots of arrows. He also referred
to battery as bat, which is exactly

573
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:30.440
what Jack does bat. Zodiac also
used the sun symbol as the power symbol

574
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:35.039
for his device. That's what Jack
uses in his diagrams for power in his

575
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:43.079
device is sons. I also found
the breaking using lines and underlining. So

576
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.280
one of the things the Zodiac did
when he broke one thought from the next

577
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:51.599
is he would draw a line across
the last thought and then begin his next

578
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:54.440
statement or thought beneath that line,
and that's definitely something we can see here

579
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:59.679
that Jack was doing underlining. Again, we can find a lot of that

580
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:02.039
need to go back, like I
said, find look at all of these

581
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:07.599
other letters, but we can see
that it happened in DC Freeway. Phantom

582
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:15.320
was underlining Scorpion dB Cooper of the
Winovich. Definitely several of the Zodiac items

583
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:22.199
were underlined. Dear draft board uses
underlining and several underlining lines just like we

584
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:28.000
saw in Zodiac. And then last
but not least, I actually had some

585
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:34.119
references directly to Black Dahlia that have
continued in communications. So in the Sherry

586
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.599
Joe Bates they said, the killer
said, but I shall cut off her

587
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:42.320
female parts and deposit them for the
whole city to see. We know that

588
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.960
wasn't done to Sherry Joe Bates.
So his threat to do this as if

589
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:51.599
he had done it before, I
believe points directly back to Black Dahlia.

590
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:54.960
He also said in that letter to
Sherry Joe Bates, I said it was

591
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:59.559
about time, and we know time
is a huge reference for the Zodiac Killer.

592
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:04.760
The gallin sharp letter actually said time
is short. I thought I did

593
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:10.760
not think that was a coincidence,
Nolan um that he referenced times yeah yeah,

594
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:15.239
and Elizabeth Short and then as dB
Cooper. I found in more than

595
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:19.519
one instance the letters actually were swapped, so instead of saying dB Cooper,

596
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:25.559
they said B D Cooper as if
in black. Yeah yeah, and dB

597
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:30.039
is a made up name. dB
Cooper isn't a real name, correct,

598
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:37.320
And then I was noticing that too, the BB black dallia dB Yeah yeah,

599
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:39.760
it's a it's a flipping play um. And then of course reference to

600
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:44.920
time being found, time and dates
being found both in Elizabeth Short and the

601
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.400
Zodiac Killers. That's it, you
guys. I'm sorry we ran over,

602
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:51.800
um, but I'm glad we got
this all out. Next week we're going

603
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.559
to start back with our first crime, which I believe is the Lake barry

604
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:58.320
Essa murders. So thank you so
much for being here. And Alan,

605
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:01.679
okay, you back next week.
Yeah, we'll see everybody next week.

606
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:04.000
Take care, but