DB Cooper and Zodiac Coincidences? Part 4

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True seekers and true crime junkies.
Welcome back to another episode of Hit

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the Road, Jack Finding the Zodiac. I am so excited to share today

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with you. We have so much
going on, and I spent until the

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wee hours collecting information that I thought
everybody was going to enjoy, and you

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simply cannot deny the connections we're going
to show you today. First, I

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want to start by welcoming to the
show, Terry Batcher, Hello, good

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morning, Good morning, Dada,
shine Boy. I have more more slides

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for you to go over than I
do for myself. Cool, very cool.

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And then we'd like to welcome as
well, Harriet's Touche. Good morning,

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and we're gonna hear an interesting song
from you today as well. And

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then we're gonna welcome Nolan del Campo, everybody, good morning. We we

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we are we allowed to talk about
San Diego courts or should we just suppress

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that one for a minute. The
fix was in, I want to say.

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In short, the beneficiary signed as
a witness whose husband drafted the will,

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and the will was not even not
even cope ascetic with the wishes and

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the needs of the individual it purported
to be for. And somehow they were

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found credible. Yeah, a Durer
was found credible and a forgerer was found

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credible, right right, the witness. Did you know? I had long

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since I've done a couple of cases
in San Diego, and I had literally

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felt that those courts were kind of
the good old boy system and the fix

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was in and no outsider was going
to come in and ever win anything there.

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And it's just proved to me by
that case that it did. I

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hope you saw my new reports and
everything I put together, because I spent

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four hours on that yesterday as frustrated
as hell, going over that evidence once

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again, just to sum everything up
that we learned in trial. Yes,

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I haven't. I've been trying to
stay from it for a week. Yeah,

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me too, It did me too. It's like I told them.

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I can't even talk about it right
now. I'm so shocked and frustrated that

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the evidence didn't prevail over the perjured
witnesses. And we had clearly enough witnesses

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in the room that disinterested witnesses could
have signed that will based on their lying

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testimony. Yeah. Anyway, businesses
were like our witnesses, but the judge

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didn't didn't care. I know,
I know, I'm crossing my fingers for

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a better result and the justice will
prevail, so I always have a hope.

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Yeah, and that brings me to
my first slide. So we're going

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to throw out my PowerPoint presentation because
I had another case where I was working

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on an anonymous letter and complaint to
the city permit office and that led me

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to the post office. So I
was looking at this particular envelope in order

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to determine its origination. So I
went into the post office, and quite

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frankly, it was interesting because I
ran into a gal who I know.

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She's been working at my local post
office for the last probably ten or so

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years, but she was absolutely my
postmaster when I first bought my first house

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when I was twenty one in Elverta, and she is now here locally with

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me in Citrus Heights, so it
was kind of cool. I brought the

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envelope in because mainly I wanted to
find out its origination, what process it

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went through. And while I was
doing that, I noticed this random L

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to the side here. And if
everybody knows what the random L means to

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me, I find it a lot
on the Zodiac communications, the Black Dahlia

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communications. It's just this letter L
for whatever reason, that doesn't equate to

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anything, and I couldn't make any
sense with it other than it existed.

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So I took this into the post
office. I made my questions to as

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to what I was looking for.
She literally went into the back of the

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post office and she was gone for
about fifteen minutes. I was starting to

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get a little bored, but when
she came out, she said, Nanette,

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I don't know what the L stands
for. She said, my postmaster

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didn't know, his supervisor didn't know, and the big guy, the big

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supervisor, has no clue what this
L stands for on this envelope. So

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for me, it reminded me of
the The Blacklist, where they talk about

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the the CIA operations being in the
post office. They call it the post

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office. So it always gets my
little conspiracy head going, especially when I

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see this L. Now I know
that even supervisor after supervisor after the big

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wig in the office has no clue
what this L established. So if anybody

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can figure this out, I would
absolutely love to know what the L stands

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for. Not letter, what's that? And not letter? Yeah? Not

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letter? I wonder that would be
interesting. At any rate. We left

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off last week with the the Vancouver
Letter, which he indicated that the composite

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was incorrect and he wanted to make
that known. dB Cooper that is,

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and of course I showed you where
the zodiac also said the same thing that

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I look like the description passed out, but only when he does his thing.

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And we talked about how the CIA
is phenomenal with making someone look absolutely

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different than they normally do. So
we move on to that. Did we

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lose Harriet? Has she called in? We lost her? No? Yeah,

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she said she would call Yay.
All right, so we're now to

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your We're now to the solve of
your of the dB Cooper Vancouver letter.

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So I'm gonna read this off for
everybody and you can tell us what it

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means. Okay, okay, all
right, So the letter chief Editor the

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pro the Province, the composite drawing
on page three, as suspected does not

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represent the truth. I enjoyed the
Gray Cup game and leaving Vancouver. Thanks

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for your hospitality, D B.
Cooper. And it was mailed to the

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Chief Editor the Province, twenty two
fifty Grandville Street, Vancouver. And then

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there's just this random backwards nine uh
or well, we're going to see.

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I'm gonna call it a backwards P
because Terry, you're gonna be talking about

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this, this letter P and this
backwards version. So in Harriet solved.

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She worked this out by anagramming the
information and it came out to say FB

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director m O Terrence received CIA Vietnam, China Border Chua Buddhist Cave two thirteen,

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nineteen sixty six, VC m O
two LRS zero zero battle drone camera.

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Oh yes, it's the last.
Do you have that solve in front

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of you? I'm looking for it, so I don't see what it says

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after drone camera. Okay, read
that solve for us. Okay, it's

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definitely saying as I atagram did out. It came out with the oh my

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god, FBI Director Richard Hill's m
O. This method of operation is Terrence

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received the CIA for Central Intelligence Agency
be It China Border Chua Buddhist Caves,

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February thirteenth, nineteen sixty six,
Viet Cong MO two Team Long Range Surveillance

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Operations Order Battle drone camera images sent
plus twenties money sack Tina Bar, Columbia

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River, Vancouver, Washington. He's
saying that they recovered what they were.

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What the main caper was about was
getting those compromising images, and future solves

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are going to see there they were
compromising images of the then president of the

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closed up communist China. They're going
to use this to try to stop the

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Vietnam War. You know, Dixon's
going to blackmail them. Wow. Now

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everybody knows that technology exists fifty years
in advance to the normal public receiving.

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So when I saw drone, I
think of drones as something relatively new because

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to the public, they are relatively
new, just in the last what maybe

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ten years. Yeah, So it
would stand to reason that the military had

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had this technology in advance and that
they had been using it for secret spy

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missions. We see that there's going
to be a lot of uses for drones

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dropping things off in the blacklist.
You get to watch them or I'm sorry,

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I think it was Queen of the
South. You got to watch them

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actually use drones to deliver their drugs
across the Mexican border. So drones are

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a thing, you guys. And
I'm not shocked to see it as early

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as this particular communication, which is
in nineteen seventy one, because that sets

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that fifty year precedence that I keep
telling everybody about. So the plus seven

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twenty seven flight three oh five twenties
Moneysack, Tina Bar, Columbia River,

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Vancouver, Washington, the message that
is being purported here would have been relatively

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easy to have gotten back to Rackstraw, who then pointed out the hippies in

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his group that their son would find
this money on the beach of Tina Barr,

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which is where in fact it was
actually found. I get so excited

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while looking at yourselves, Ariiot,
Oh no, what to do with myself?

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They are just like subtle confirmations of
what we talk about in the evidence

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that is actually existing in this case. And I got Can I say something

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really quick about the Tua Buddhist caves, please? Father brought back something about

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the that's very important to the Catholics
as well as the Buddhists because they believe

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that the Virgin Mary, which was
the then Vietnam Oh my god. Still

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a lot of people from Vietnam say
the Virgin Mary, it's our lady of

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Levong was there a couple hundred years
ago. And this is what I have,

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something that's from those that's depicting those
two Buddheskays. Because my father brought

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it back from Vietnam. So wow, this is how come Wow, because

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my father was there. He was
there for Vietnam beginning to end. He

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brought stuff into the war zones.
So anyways, this is a very personal

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connection. I said, wow,
I know something about that. I managed

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to save it from fires, you
know. But anyways, yeah, so

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this is very very amazing, you
know. Right yeah, all right,

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So that moves us onto the composite
since he is so adamant that the FBI

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has gotten the composite wrong. I
did. I did briefly watch another podcast

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that was trying to instill that dB
Cooper was Hispanic. Okay, yeah,

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okay, I know. However,
like I said, the description says white

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male in his forties So where did
that literally take on the Hispanic origin.

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I'm not sure because white male and
Hispanic are definitely two different colors. Five

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ft ten inches to six foot,
no coincidence. That's Jack one hundred and

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seventy two, one hundred and eighty
pounds. These are again Jack's stats during

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this timeframe, and he is known
to lose weight rapidly or to gain weight

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depending on what he is trying to
abscond from. Go ahead, Terry B.

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You remember from the Black Dahlia case
it was described as being a how

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they describe as complexion as being swarthy. Remember we talked about swarthy being skin

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so yes, yeah, yeah,
yeah, and Jack tanned well as a

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matter of fact. So this whole
Hispanic thing almost reminds me of the Mexico

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connection that we actually have, you
know, running rampant through all of these

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crimes, just another ploy to get
people on the wrong track. And dB

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Cooper seemed to want to let people
know that what they were looking at,

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as far as the composite was concerned, was not indicative of what he really

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looked like. So they must have
made some alterations. However, I can

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see here the Turkey ac right,
we got that turkeync wrinkles in the neck.

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We've got the high forehead, we've
got the combed back hair, We've

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got basically pretty much the same jawline
as the zodiac yours too. Everything everything

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was there everything. What are the
three on the upper right. These were

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suspects or possible eyewitness accounts of people
who may have been involved with like the

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bellinak the nurse murders in Sacramento.
So the crossover from leaving the Bay Area

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into South Lake Tahoe. And we
will show this one later because I have

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a picture of Jack where he actually
dyed his hair and his beard, and

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you can see that the dye is
coming out and that the color is literally,

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let me shut that off, the
color is literally fading away. But

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for whatever reason, during that timeframe, he literally dyed his hair black,

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also putting that next to obviously Jack
once again, same jaw, same face,

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structure, same everything. Uh.
I just thought it was interesting they

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did have three different takes on three
different but maybe these people weren't even related

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to what was going on. I
just thought it was ironic that we had

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this version of uh, this particular
look with black hair and a black beard,

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and we were gonna We're gonna see
that later as we've moved through this

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presentation and talk more about Jack.
This is where I got excited. Yes,

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something really cool, because I remember
last week you said that you found

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this pic. This picture that I
got very amazing and clear. I got

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on some by that was trying to
claim that this was copywritten material and you

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can copyright this or you know whatever. Copy I said, this bullshit.

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This is fair, so source,
fair use, Okay, I mean it

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out there on the internet. We
have the right to use it. Buddy.

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So I got the copy, and
it's I forget how I got the

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copy, but yeah, this is
extremely clear, you know. So it

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is the best version so far I've
seen. It is definitely, so far

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the best version that I have seen
of this letter. It now means that

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I can include this in the handwriting
examination, because before I couldn't literally make

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out some of the finer characteristics.
But this is perfect. It's something I

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will take myself back to and I
will actually break apart and show. But

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again, if you look at it, it's very consistent with the the Winovich

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the Senator of Winovich's letter in two
thousand and one. So and for me.

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It just it touches home for sure. All Right, So this is

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where I got excited last night.
You guys, I about fell out and

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we're going to be did I do
more? Oh, we'll get to the

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biggest one. But I was staring
at We're going to be looking at these

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dB Cooper messages of course today,
and Terry B. Has made some good

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connections between images and caricatures from the
actual writings. Again, there's that backwards

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p or the nine that we just
talked about on the envelope. Where did

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I cover that? Not there?
Oh, we haven't gotten to it yet.

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I'm a little bit ahead of myself, but Terry B Is going to

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talk about that. I just wanted
to point out that I knew I had

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actually seen this letter D before.
So last night I was scouring until the

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wee hours of the morning looking for
this letter D. Everybody's got to remember,

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I'm dealing with something like five hundred
communications two hundred plus written by Jack

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three hundred plus, which I believe
are written by the same person that encompasses

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all of these particular crimes. So
lo and behold, I went in and

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I actually found the Donna last card, in which case it says Saint Donna.

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Now that letter D is identically identically
formed in the same manner as the

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d's on the dB. Cooper,
this is actually a request to be part

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of a parachuting group. And we
see that it says professional, Hi jacker.

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Yeah, it's right, it's right, Hi Jack, Hi jacker.

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Right. And then I looked at
the letter B with this long drawn in

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stroke, the tiny little top bubble
and the bigger bottom bubble we see again,

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and even the slant of that top
bubble actually works out its way up

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in the same fashion. Now everybody
has to remember that we never write the

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exact same way twice. So when
I'm looking for things to make an identification

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or an exclusion, I'm looking at
all aspects. How does the tail on

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the D form, how does the
exit stroke of that D form, which

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direction does it slant in? And
how tall is that in reference to the

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rest of the stuff around it,
And we can see that the D in

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Donald is actually absolutely perfect. I
was just so overjoyed when I found this,

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I couldn't literally sleep. It's like
a kid on Christmas last night.

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That's a great document, right,
absolutely. And then you have some things

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up here that you were talking about. Can you see this particular communication,

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Terry, I can't. I don't
know what any of the mishmash in the

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second layer is or second level,
but it says B D Cooper instead of

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D B. And uh, yeah, there's another document I said to you

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where I thought, well, was
he implying that by that age she would

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have been a cougar? I don't
know, but but that's just black literacy

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have been a cougar by then,
that are qualified to be a anyway that

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I've only known about that term cougar
for the last six or eight years.

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But but yeah, it's B Clearly
B d's to the dB. And he

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did that more than once, as
he'll see. So, yes, speculating

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is you know what? What was
it about? It's all you know,

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well, but it is an obvious
thing to point out, since we do

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believe that he's responsible for Black Dahlia, that he is continually misplacing that B

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and D in order to say B
D in many of these communications. Again,

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it's well, he's hinting because it's
Bill Hilliard is the editor for the

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Oregonian, and Bill Hilliard has everything
to do with according to his grew with

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like Golia, So he's, yeah, just wait until you see some of

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these other souls. He's he's a
hinting, Hey, you're involved with this,

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dude. So I never thought about
that, but you were absolutely right.

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So Billy Hilliard is the editor at
the time of the Oregonian, Right,

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Yeah, and you're going to see
we're going to see many references from

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DBI Cooper in regards to the Oregonian. Yes, goes everything. Yeah,

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Terry, you also have one last
one on here, the strong ampersand hint

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right, Well, I think that's
what I was speculating. I don't have

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anything in depth to say about that, but I'm just these are my notes.

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You were actually seeing my notes at
the time, saying you know,

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that's why I never really labeled this
stuff carefully because I thought, well,

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there's still a work in progress at
the time, so I just set it

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aside by thought, Oh b D. Cooper hadn't mentioned it before. And

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so if you're willing, I'm glad
you found this other stuff on the left.

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That's great. That's I've seen that
document and I've seen hijack, but

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I didn't pay attention to Hijacker.
But I think that's great. He commits

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a lot of this stuff. There's
a ton He was cryptic on everything.

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Everything he did was cryptic everything.
One of the things I didn't quite understand

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is you said, note that the
ampersand is above the number seven on a

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Querity keyboard. What does that mean? Well, as you look at your

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keyboard, I only have in your
front. Is it that the ampersand or

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is that the plus sign? I'm
looking at a mine now, I two.

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I made a mistake, right,
which one's apersand or anymore? A

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lot of times since I was in
school, I thought hipper sand was the

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and, and it's that number seven
and it's over the seven, just like

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because there's the other one that's over
the letter to and I don't know what

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you call that. That's the act, that's the at at at that.

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But that's everything he did. Was
that. Everybody saying it was cripping every

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and nobody knows that better than Harriet. Well, so does the number seven

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strike you some way? I mean
number seven? Yeah, because you stated

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that note that the ampersand is above
the number seven on the Queerity keyboard.

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So I was looking more or less
for an explanation of what that meant to

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you at the seven. To me, it's just a seven hind so far.

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I mean, that's the depth.
You have to look to what Harriet

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would have to say, and she'd
probably have more that I put on that

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right, and we will be getting
to all these solves with Harriet as we

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moved through them. Today was more
or less about the connections between Jack Zodiac

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and the dB Cooper Kper so we'll
move on from that. So this was

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another one that you sent me,
Oh, there's that pe. So as

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we were talking about this backwards P
that looks like a G with this long

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tail, uh, you then pointed
that out in the cutouts from the Black

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Dohlia, this very long stemmed P, which you thought Jack was rather fond

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of, or at least he uses
it a lot in his messages, And

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you are correct. I've seen it
a lot. I didn't really know what

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you were talking about until I saw
it in the B D. Cooper and

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I went, there's that that nine
again, or that P. It draws

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attention to everything he does in a
certain way, and that's one of them.

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The p is is a big one, and it's gonna be a real

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big one when we come to when
we go off to the Ramsey case is

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going to be a gigantic one.
We can talk about it later on the

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W is too, I mean everything
and Harry knows this stuff all too well.

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So now explained to us the W
and follow Well, I'm just pointing

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out that that there's actually a V. He's making it. He's making a

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flova, Hitt, because by breaking
that W, he made a V,

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you know, right, So once
again we have a flow of a hit.

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I mean he has all the way
up to the Ramsey murder. Yes,

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he does. And they said that. I think that the profiler in

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the Zodiac case indicated that the Zodiac
had a perversed love for his mother.

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I believe that Dennis said that Jack
had Mom tattooed on him. Is that

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correct, Harry with a heart?
Yeah, Mom with a heart. And

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where was that? Was that on
his wrist, his forearm? I think

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it was on his upper arm,
so that when I would never see it,

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if he was laying his shirt or
anything, you'd never see it.

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That's what I understand. So that
perverse love brings us back to the fact

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that when his father died, Jack
thought he was going to take the male

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role in the ranch with his mom
and found out that his uncle was actually

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coming to take it over. And
that's when he split down and left.

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That's when he got the heck out
of Dodge, when he realized he wasn't

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going to be the man he desired
to be in his mom's life. So

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there was kind of some sick perversion
there. And of course we know that

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he returned on a constant basis to
his mom as much as he possibly can.

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I mean, multiple times in a
year, no matter where she was

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living, whether it was Texas,
Chicago, California, you could find Jack

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on her heels at all times.
How is that guy? He died in

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a tractor accident on the farm.
He was ran over by a tractor and

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then here's a plow tractor. Jack
watched it happen and simply walked away and

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didn't tell anybody that his dad was
trapped underneath the tractor. Also, well,

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that sounds like a complex exactly.
One quick point about the last one

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is simply that remember the sorry Ma
thing in the Black Dahlia case where he

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puts sorry m A at large and
then for instead of sorry Mary. I

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was wondering what the reference was for
Sorry, Mary, but you're right.

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I could see that at the time. This this one here is just to

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show crop marks and how they resemble
the letter K, and how he liked

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to draw a lot of his k's
as crop marks where he actually detached the

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two you know, sections of it. So that's I just grabbed that this

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one from the black Dahlia era,
just to make this point. That's the

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only significance of the that I've read
into this particular photograph except from the box

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in the picture. But it's from
nineteen forty seven, and it's from the

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back dolity case it was we don't
have. Yeah, you have to go

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back and read the papers in the
day. This is a newspaper. This

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was found in a certain library out
of California that had some really nice clear

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images from that era. And I
could share any of it, all of

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it with you guys, and tell
you later. I remember what library it

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was when I just I think Nanetta
is the first one that helped me to

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crop marks from the Grimes Murder nineteen
fifty seven Grisburn. And this is what

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the editors do to say, this
is all I want. I want to

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crop this photo down to the center
area. So those are that's the crop

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marks that the editor says, here's
what I want for a final picture.

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Fit. This picture will then be
fit to put to where he wants to

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put, you know. So of
the Halloween card, however it is,

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I mean, it is obviously different. And we know that the script on

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the Halloween card came from the Dick
Tracy comics, so yep. But I

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did not know that this k was
meant to crop. But I can see

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how it would be because it's giving
you a place to crop it at,

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and it's saying downward and here and
to the side. So I can definitely

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understand at least that concept or reason
or cropping pictures that and and how it

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relates to some of his letter ks
is the only reason that and the grimes

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case. So while you are an
expert at writing this stuff in chronological order

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in detail, wonderful, I'm kind
of always working in circles with this stuff,

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you know where I'm you know,
kind of like navigations in circles.

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I'm working front to back. How
does this relate to the early crimes,

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the middle crimes, the later crimes? How does this stuff fit? That's

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right? What I look for.
That's kind of a lot what drives me.

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And we know Jack was into photography, so this would be something that

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he was very well aware of.
Certainly, Yeah, this picture, well,

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murder watch in the Sherry Joe Bates
case I found to watch. And

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also why do you know that you
asked yourself okay, set murder watch and

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how that might relate to Dbe Cooper
is course, timing is going to be

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everything, and he's going to make
that jump. He's definitely going to have

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to watch his watch. He's going
to have to and maybe that has something

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to do with that magic ambulant amulet
that we can talk about later, that

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he might have had been wearing a
special device to know to aid him and

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where to drop and find the drop
zone. I'm not sure that's speculation,

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but when we come to the magic
amulet part of one of the documents you

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presented already, that's what I had
in mind, and that's why just sent

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you this particular document to say,
you know, we'll look at that murder

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watch. Isn't that a keyword?
You know? It is? That's all

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I coul and that's all that from
the Black Dohlia case too, that's from

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the newspapers. That was something that
was printed in the papers, or I

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assume was printed. But anyway,
there's a paper, they're's printed in some

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circular So what's circular when we go
back to find out, you know,

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and we know that the Swindles,
mister Swindle had his watch taken, so

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evidently he was the individual with a
watch that would have been covered in paint

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since he also painted on the side, painted houses on the side, and

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the painting of houses just brings me
back to the irishman. He said,

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I started painting houses myself, which
meant killing people. Yeah, yeah,

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everything cryptic him and so maybe maybe
Swindle was secretly a hit man, you

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know who knows There was certainly more
than him. You guys figured that out,

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you know, and figured that out. So but next document, there's

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just simply water. Is the reason
I grabbed that one because we know that's

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going to be important when it comes
to those cutoffs with a woman underwater.

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I never even paid attention to that
before, but when I saw that,

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I went, wow, that is
clear as day. Well he's placing great

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emphasis on the word water, you
know, right when I thought about the

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cutouts and sometimes you have to look
through different pages to actually come up with

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what it is that you're trying to
say. But I have to believe that

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in the smaller font he could have
certainly founded a W, A T and

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a E and R. These are
very common letters that are used in many

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words. That he could have found
something that would have been inside these particular

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smaller versions. But you're right,
he chose specifically to actually highlight or to

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pronounce louder than anything the W,
A, T, E, R,

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as well as the I N G. Over Here we do note that the

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zodiac had a reduce seen I N
G at the end of his words,

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so that was something that that's a
mystery to me. But crack, I'm

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going to point out the word crack
as being that's what you do to a

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cipher. You crack a cipher.
Right, And he says, crackproof is

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the zodiac, So again the right, Yeah, you cracked this exactly what.

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I'm sorry, Jack, but we
cracked you. He just fifty years

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too late. I think if you
look at them, you know, you'll

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see that when he's saying, try, you know, I'm crackproof or practice

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or whatever that he's hinting to whoever's
seeing this. This is supposed to be

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a version of a cipher or find
you know, find the message. Yep,

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that's what i've all these years later. Did you ever saw did you

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ever try assault on this one?
Harriet? Which which one is this one?

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Doll? It's the cutouts in the
black DOLLI it says da Dahlia's killer

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cracking. Comma wants terms at the
top, says express. Then you'd have

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to send it to me. I
don't think i'd done that one. He'll

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do, Yeah, all right,
next one, Terry, Well, it

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just simply shows where he cut it
out of what particular paper Red was.

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Red was a person that was a
temporary suspect of that in the Black Dahlia

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case. And this is just them
showing where they got his for the uh

407
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.199
gasoline soulp letter. Where he got
Dahlia from. He got it from this

408
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:46.800
particular publication, The Herald expressed or
expresses he has misspelled it intentionally X he

409
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:51.440
skipped the letter R and one of
the Zodiac documents. So yeah, he's

410
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.599
putting this stuff full circle, full
sir, Yes he is, so yeah,

411
00:34:54.639 --> 00:35:00.000
that's all I read that for.
This is from the Zodiac stuff.

412
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.800
I credit hear it a little bit
because I didn't know that that was a

413
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:09.320
symbol for the compass. So I
just applied something I tried on the Ramsey

414
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:14.400
verder, which worked for me,
and I just said, okay, are

415
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:19.000
these pointers. These nines and p's
are pointers, so let's use those as

416
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:23.440
pointers. And so we've got a
north so we and I tried a decimal's

417
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:29.639
fall and it took me to it
ended up being right straight on the top

418
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:36.440
of Pelican Butte. And there's not
much more I can tell you about that

419
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:40.679
other than Pelican but as a sign
of the zodiac or me is a zodiac

420
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:45.159
sign from something to do with the
Chinese language. But that's as far as

421
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:51.039
I took this. And then I
just put the flow there showing a east

422
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:54.880
west sign. So he's you can
clearly see that that's a three forty cipher.

423
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:59.559
And the thing that stood out for
me is it's definitely built in quadrants

424
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:06.519
and a parent the other people have
treated his quadrants also. Is a pelicanute?

425
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.559
Is Pelican Butte near you, Harriet? No? Yeah, it's in

426
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:15.280
in California. No, I'm asking, Harriet or gone? I think,

427
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:22.079
oh, okay, but but but
what you're describing, Terry B. Would

428
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:27.960
you would you say this the thing
like, uh, global geospatial imaging from

429
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:34.039
above to where you can uh interpret
the images. Yes, yes, yeah,

430
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.719
because that's what he did often,
as you know, he was looking

431
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.559
at it from an aerial view.
A lot of his stuff based on an

432
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:45.960
aerial view. And we can take
that back to dB Cooper and Jack who

433
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:51.280
both were able to identify lakes,
bodies of water and air force bases from

434
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:58.360
thirty five thousand miles of feet in
the air, right right, yes,

435
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:05.079
well circle and that well, I
just I just wanted to say real quickly.

436
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.079
That's why we need Terry B.
To do a lot of these now,

437
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:12.599
because when you're seeing what I've done
with the evidence and you ask me,

438
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.760
how could you do this that the
evidence was describing, you know and

439
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:22.320
related newspapers in the seventies, it's
because they were taking pictures from way about

440
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:28.519
thirty forty and fifty feet in the
air, following the bad guys and trailing

441
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:31.480
them. And then that's how they
knew at two o'clock in the morning the

442
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:37.760
body was dragged twenty feet in the
middle of nowhere, Texas. So anyway,

443
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:42.000
so you'll get this. We'll definitely
get that far. That's what they

444
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.360
were doing. Even in the World
War Two, they were taking pictures from

445
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.760
high above click click click click click
click click. Everything was real Jews,

446
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.679
Yeah, in the military. And
this is what was merely me pointing out

447
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:57.119
simply, well, what can we
say about the three forty that it is

448
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:00.559
said? The simpless takeaway, and
that is that these all these f l

449
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:06.719
o v's are adjacent letter and there's
no other letters on the whole doc or

450
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:12.119
symbols on the document that do that. And and they're in the quadrants they're

451
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.760
in. You know, they have
an upper left right quadrant, a lower

452
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:20.440
right and a lower left quadrant where
you find that And that's the most redundant

453
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:25.239
hint of the three forty cipher.
And I took it no further than that.

454
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:29.440
I can only just say that.
But isn't that sufficient If you if

455
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:34.280
you know that Jack Terrence's mother's middle
name was full or Flova, you know,

456
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:37.480
so I think that's that's you know, there's more evidence this is he's

457
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.840
taken ownership of all this stuff,
which is something the area it's been saying

458
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:45.199
for years, and that's been saying
for years and This fortifies that I think

459
00:38:45.559 --> 00:39:04.480
hijacker. Hijacker almost spells that zodiacs. It's like the zoe exactly. The

460
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:09.400
zodiac right after the zodiac is Jack's
monogram. So we see the the T,

461
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:15.559
J and W with a plus because
he's the second. Everybody needs to

462
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:20.639
remember that sign is more. Well. I know that when they when they

463
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:23.199
did the solve on this on the
Hunt for the Zodiac, they discussed and

464
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:28.360
stated that the last two symbols of
the cipher were the sign off of the

465
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:31.760
individual who wrote it. And I
already knew that this is Jack's monogram.

466
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:36.360
This is the J, W,
T all in one little monogram, and

467
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:38.880
the plus sign to me just says
number two. Because Jack was a junior,

468
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:45.480
well I can leave with this document. He was One other point I

469
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.920
got made with this document. I
circled RKO because I know that he had

470
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:52.760
a fixation not all I have music, but movies, and that the Zodiac

471
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:57.840
Killer from the Charlie Chan movie I
think was an RKO production. I'm not

472
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:02.840
positive of that, but he definitely
not only not only did he quote you

473
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:07.480
know, music titles and things like
that, he had a fixation which we'll

474
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:12.599
see when you get to occ k
but and and other things. But I

475
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.320
just circle that because oh r kl
the studio, that's all. It's a

476
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:20.119
real plain and obvious observation. That's
all I did. I took it not

477
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:22.880
much rot, you know. And
then there's plain words like tom and air

478
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.639
and things like that. Is that
Tom boyite? Who knows? Right?

479
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:31.519
It wasn't that jan movie filmed on
Treasure Island and in the Bay Area?

480
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:37.360
Yes, probably so probably so.
Yeah, I've never even seen the movie

481
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:42.800
yet. I had to have to
look that one up and watching me movies,

482
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:46.960
I haven't been there yet. All
right, So here's another and this

483
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:52.159
one points out all those backwards nine
that I'm not going to call them nines

484
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.840
because I don't think anybody equated this
the cipher to nine. Rather than equating

485
00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:01.960
it to backwards peas the pointers.
I take them as basically being pointers.

486
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:07.079
He's pointing, So that's all.
That's That's where the pelican but simple,

487
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:12.199
I mean this is this is nowhere
near sophisticated, is what Harriet does because

488
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:14.920
I don't have the patience for the
time to do that sort of stuff.

489
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:19.079
But I'm glad that Harriet's done that
sort of work on and I never understood

490
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:22.960
all anagram solves work, but I
do now I get it. I couldn't

491
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.119
do it when I get how it
works. Right, Well, that's a

492
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:35.199
dream I dream of dreaming of one
last night. The pointer again pointing to

493
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:40.320
the monogram of j W. Terrence. And there's a better version or visual

494
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:45.400
of the j W T monogram once
again down there at the bottom right.

495
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:49.440
All right, So now this one
you had some things pointed out on it,

496
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:53.280
well, dyslexic end you don't got
it backwards and the V. And

497
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:59.519
if you examine the V and the
Ramsey no victory SBTC, you'll notice that

498
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:02.480
actually little hooks on it if they
haven't modified your copy, which is very

499
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.920
possible or likely. And so it's
actually saying instead of saying of V,

500
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:15.239
it's hinting at a at a dyslike
say or backwards stemmed letter V or and

501
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:17.920
rather so the head does that,
and it's a colon right next to it

502
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:22.280
with the way he made his letter
I. So he's saying north colon.

503
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:28.079
And that's important to me because that
crack things open. There's a lot about

504
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.239
this document to say. There's just
a ton of things to say about this,

505
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:36.239
but I'm trying to difference once you
get into the backwards writing of letters

506
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:39.320
that we just looked at in the
dB Cooper case. So it's again another

507
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:45.360
running thing. Now, does every
serial killer write the FBI or the newspapers?

508
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:47.760
No? Does every serial killer tell
them when they've got something wrong?

509
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:52.960
No? Does every serial killer write
letters backwards on purpose? No? That's

510
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:59.199
what makes these strong connections between these
crimes so significant. Right, there's one

511
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:07.159
on The little thing I could throw
in here about this is that that there

512
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:09.400
were senior moments where I was had
three things going to once. Oh,

513
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:13.880
the on fire look. Notice how
all of these have I call that how

514
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:17.039
he made these look like they're like
they were lit on fire? And what

515
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:21.400
signals you that is to buy fire
up in the upper left hand corner.

516
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:25.719
Okay, on the Ramsey murder note, there are only two examples of words

517
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:30.239
that are on fire that are absolutely
identical, and he didn't do that.

518
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.880
But any other words or plaintech words
on their ones on the first page and

519
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:37.360
the other ones on the second page. And it's the word the and it

520
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.679
has an on fire look to it, And that's another one of my note

521
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:44.599
things. So that was important to
me from the on fire. Look,

522
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.719
there's another thing we could talk about
later with the secret pal and the secret

523
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:54.320
This the secret to your secret pal
that relates to course, what is the

524
00:43:54.360 --> 00:44:00.159
fourteen circled for? Well, I
think he's saying four teenagers, that's one

525
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:06.360
guess, and then relates to something
zodiac. But I think it also hearkens

526
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:20.800
forward to something that Manett doesn't want
to talk about yet. Just yet we're

527
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:25.119
all circling together in the same direction. Yeah, I think I was just

528
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:30.880
saying that it's obviously he has something. It's a very deliberately drawn little image.

529
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:34.039
What does it mean? So it
was a question mark to me,

530
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:38.440
I don't know. To two it's
a detailed thing amongst a fairly rough drawing,

531
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:42.400
And of course it doesn't show on
this document. But I and I

532
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.519
didn't discover it. But one of
you guys or somebody previous to us pointed

533
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:49.519
out that one of the eyes as
the image of the jet was this document,

534
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.360
wasn't it as a Cooper jet?
I remember that's another document I sent

535
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:57.599
you that you probably even have a
better copy. And then you ate you

536
00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:00.920
can see you ache, Well that's
on the Ramsey Murder. No too.

537
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:04.599
At this part of ata. I
played it out last time we got together

538
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:12.599
at Shay as the words a C. So you ach at Shay. Everything

539
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.679
with this guy was cryptic. Everything
parkns forward and backwards. There it is,

540
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:21.119
there's the Cooper. So how did
you get this version without? You

541
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:29.000
have a version without the jack jackal
lantern. Oh that's you have one the

542
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:31.639
jackal lanterns. You mean for the
Ramsey murder. Well look at this,

543
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:36.960
this version. It has the jackal
lantern and on top of the skeleton.

544
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:44.440
But you have this version. All
this stuff was on the internet. The

545
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.400
I didn't add that jackal lantern on
there, but I did circle you ache

546
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:52.320
but up the upper left hand corner, of course, is that I'm talking

547
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:55.440
about the the image of the jet
and how that relates to the dB coop.

548
00:45:55.599 --> 00:46:00.199
And that's what the prediction of dB
coop. This was before Cooper happened,

549
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.400
as I understand it. You guys
can correct me on that, but

550
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:07.599
I believe this document came out before
Deeping Jemy Cooper. Pal p AL was

551
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:14.760
a program that was a special computer
language early language program. I don't know

552
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:16.880
much about it. I can't give
you any details, but I just know

553
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:21.119
that it's a program and it's on
my to do list to see what its

554
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:25.119
specialty was. And because my friend
Dob Shield says, you know what,

555
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:29.559
we couldn't have done this stuff without
a computer, especially the rams murder note.

556
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:31.920
It's too much to organize. But
I don't know, I don't know.

557
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:37.880
Well, Jack, that pumpkin is
our Jack reference once again, right,

558
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:43.039
yeah, yep, absolutely, Now
what else we got? Yeah,

559
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.079
Jack o' lantern, Yep, there
we go. Jackal entered Pelly. Jack

560
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:50.519
is the keyword. Just like all
of his images, he emphasized the word

561
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:52.880
Jack. So yeah, I want
to get down all over left and I

562
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.760
don't remember own stuffcause this was done
about eight nine years ago. Let's see,

563
00:46:55.760 --> 00:47:01.239
practically identical to the letter structure hims
founding the Ramsey murderer. That's what

564
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:07.000
I'm pointing out, some of those
little he you know, family friend Fleet

565
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.199
White Junior said the morning of the
crime of the Ramsey murder that he kept

566
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:16.679
talking about the structure of the Ramsey
note, which upset Missus Ramsey, Patsy

567
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:20.920
Ramsey. She's what is he talking
about? She didn't have it for she

568
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:23.159
was upset and not examining that note. You know what I mean? Her

569
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:27.800
daughter was missing, and she was
upset. Meanwhile he's trying to figure it

570
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.880
out, and he he pointed out
something out that's very key, a very

571
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:36.679
key observation, and that is that
structure had a lot to do with that

572
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:40.519
note and everything. A Zodiac jacket
one thing to do that where we go.

573
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:46.679
That's that next document was one of
my favorite documents ever, the one.

574
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:52.880
This is the one they tried to
say was forged by but I found

575
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:57.760
that it was not forged by Tashi
and in fact, was definitely written by

576
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:02.000
Zodiac jack right, And I'm saying
that he used an inner exchangeability for that

577
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:06.920
little The plain text word is about
Oh, all right, you know what,

578
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:10.079
We've got one minute left, you
guys. We blasted through this.

579
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:14.760
I think this was an awesome show. I didn't even pay attention to the

580
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.760
time. We have one minute left. If anybody wants to add anything at

581
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.400
this point in time, Terry B
you go, oh, I'm just going

582
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:24.480
to say that that letter A is
is something he exchanged for. No,

583
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:27.960
no, no, no, we're
not going to talk anymore about letters.

584
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.079
If there's anything else you want to
sign off with, oh, I'm just

585
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:34.679
going to say thanks to everyone,
especially Harriet. And then I'm glad that

586
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:38.159
no one's involved, and I'm especially
glad that Harriet's I mean that and that's

587
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:42.400
involved. And I really love your
top and you can't tell if I'm making

588
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:47.480
eye contact or not. Shame on
you, Terry b all right, no

589
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:52.760
longer go the last card that you
showed, where was that set to?

590
00:48:53.199 --> 00:49:00.480
That was sent to Aver? That
was Chronicle right Avery at the Chronicle,

591
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.199
I believe, right, Okay,
all right, it's the Halloween card as

592
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:10.599
I know it, Harriet, Harriet
anything. I just want to get a

593
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:16.000
shout out to Stephen Doers. Professor
Stephen Doers. Did you know his specialty

594
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:23.880
was the global spatial stuff from above? Yeah, we'll pick up on that

595
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:28.039
next week. I've got to let
everybody go. Thank you all for being

596
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:30.119
here. I hope you found this
as fascinating as I did. I know

597
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:34.119
that we all enjoyed sharing it with
you. Have a great weekend and we

598
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:55.639
will see you next Friday. Take
care bye,