Sept. 5, 2025

Walsh Review & Jack is on the Move

Walsh Review & Jack is on the Move
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Reviewing the contents of the John Walsh letters from Harold Blum and John Stack wit Lindsay MacBrayer. Jack and Nora split again, and Jack is all over the place it appears with Texas being the go-to. Murders begin to happen in the locations that Jack is found. Proximity is key here and the MO is eerily reminiscent of the Zodiac Killer statements and other crimes we have discussed.

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Good Morning, True seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.

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This morning, I'd like to welcome to the show Lindsay mcgraar. Hey,

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good morning, beautiful. How are you doing good?

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How about you?

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I'm awake, I'm happy, I don't know all kinds of energy.

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I don't know what to do with my hands. Let's

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bring Nolan del Campo to the show as well.

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Oh my god, that's hilarious.

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It is.

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It's hilarious that it happens to be both our favorite characters.

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Good morning. I actually have that set as a notification

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for my text messages. And I was at the super

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dealership and this gentleman that was sitting across from me

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was on his computer, and of course we're set in

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the middle of the dealership. So there's service and people

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and kids yell and dogs barking. There's all kinds of

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things going on, and this man has the nerve to

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look over to me and tell me to silence my notification. Now,

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the minions laughter is absolutely great. I almost laugh every

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time I hear my own notification. But how dare this

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guy be such a humbug?

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As?

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Could you turn that down? Please? I'm like, oh God,

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and I'm so noisy, angry individual. Obviously that wasn't having

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a good day or he's that way all the time,

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And thank goodness, I don't know him. Come on, who

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doesn't like laughter? If that's the whole notification is them laughing?

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I just I fall out every time. It's like SpongeBob.

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If you hear that fun song the f is for

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Friends and you is for that literally starts laughing and

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I lose it. I can't sing the song anymore.

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Oh yeah, what what's funny?

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Is?

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Uh?

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What's even more funny is the the stuff they put

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in SpongeBob, like and it's supposed to be for kids,

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and you're like.

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What.

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Realize you didn't realize it when you were little? But

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like then when you as an adult watch like you

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see it on TV and you're like, oh my god,

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is this is this real life?

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Like what it's your young heart? Because I only know

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it as an adult.

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Well, no, I knew it.

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I was like a teenager whenever. But I remember it

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being on my little cousins and stuff. And even when

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I was a teenager, I didn't even notice it, all right.

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I got corrected only because I didn't finish it. And

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one says it and I'm gonna try to do this,

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but it's epis for friends who do things together you,

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is for you and me, and is for anywhere, anytime

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at all here in.

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The deep lucy, Oh my god, we are definitely at

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that level.

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I said, I don't know what to do with my hands.

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Did you have a Nialani today?

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And I'm barely on my coffee? I just started whatever.

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I got some good sleep? Is that an energy drink?

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Y'all don't know about Alani's what now?

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Now, I can't drink energy drinks. If you imagine this

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energy that I have right now, put me on one

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of those, you all kick me to the curb. You

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won't be able to stand me, I promise, all right,

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So last week we left off on the Herald Bloom letter,

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which I barely made it through reading. We didn't really

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have an opportunity to discuss. So we are back today

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with Lindsay mcbrair to talk a little bit about this letter.

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So you found this in the atom wash files.

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Correct.

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Yes, Now it appears as though based on this notation

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at the bottom, and this looks like a card that's

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probably created by the Hollywood PD. I don't believe that

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this was written in conjunction with the letter, but it

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is labeled John R.

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Walsh and in the bottom of it it says has

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been receiving mail and pH calls lost and yeah regards

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to this letter. So obviously Harold Bloom is trying to

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reach out to him pretty pretty hard, right mm hmmm.

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Oh yeah.

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There's several different letters in there from him really. Yeah,

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there's some to the police into him and to John Walsh.

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So what what what made you pull this one of

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all the ones that you saw?

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Uh? Well, I thought it was significant because that way

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it's you see that that is documented legal legal document

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where it says that you know, it just proves our

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point of them constantly receiving calls and things like that,

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and then because it doesn't really specify it, it doesn't

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say that it was that he's been seving receiving multiple

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from Harold Bloom. He's been receiving multiple in general, and

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we do know that so, but Harold Bloom has sinned

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multiple But I don't think that that particular one is

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saying that directly towards Harold Bloom, because they're like, the

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way the case file is set up is so like discombobulated,

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like it's all out of order, and so it's like

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you have to piece it together yourself, and especially when

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you're on.

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A computer doing that.

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Yeah, right, it's a lot harder than if you had

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it all print it out, you know.

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Yeah, I'm not sure if it ran in date order

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or not. It seemed like I would find things skipping

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around in the zodiac files, so I then had to

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come and put them in chronological order. So you're right

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in that aspect. The files are jumbled. They're scanned in

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with no rhyme nor reason. They definitely don't walk from

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beginning of the case to the end of the case,

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which is something that I've been trying to do with

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Jack's evidence so that people can meet know and see

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who Jack was through his life. We're going to get

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an earful today on him. But I was kind of

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I was kind of like a little confused because it

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says white male, date of birth twelve nine oh seven. Who.

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Yeah, Yeah, I don't know why he wrote why they

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wrote that on that either?

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No? Oh, no, he died in eighty one.

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Yeah, and I don't even know it could have been seven.

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Whose day of birthday? I don't know whose that could

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have been. Now, John WASH's birthday is in is in December?

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It's not December ninth, and it's not in two thousand

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and seven.

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Correct.

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Also, the number underneath press looks like a phone number

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and not zip code. Yeah, for zip code, but there's

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no area code. Correct.

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Well, a lot of them don't have a lot of

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them don't have an area code because I guess they

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just when they're drotting things down, it's they know so.

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They're in their area already. Yeah, that makes sense, all right.

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So as I went like that, as we went through this,

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and we do recognize that in our first couple of

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segments together, lindsay that Harold Bloom was mentioned in a

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newspaper article is one of the theories as to what

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had occurred with Adam Walsh. That amongst O'Toole, which we

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know is a complete joke. Uh And and I think

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a couple other theories, but this one stood out to

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us because he kept claiming that this was a political move,

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that this was mob related. I mean even in this

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letter he says they're basically one and the same thing,

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and that the Hollywood Police Department felt that this was

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a mob hit from the beginning.

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Oh yeah, they did.

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And have you read this entire note.

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It's where he's saying that they made some kind of deal.

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It was some kind of deal went wrong, and it

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was had tied to the mob, had ties to Nixon,

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had ties to uh but the Bahamas, the Paradise Hotel,

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and he did.

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The Paradise Hotel. I didn't read the Paradise Hotel in here,

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but that's interesting.

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So that been another letter, but I may I may

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not have sent you.

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Yeah, but well then I definitely see that one because

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we know that the zodiac refers to Paradise, and while

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he's played on it, using it making it look as

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though he's talking about a pair of dice as in gambling,

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that still leads us back to mob. It still has

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its own innuendos. But if you find that letter, definitely

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let me know. I know that in this particular page

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he had indicated that the murder was a political assassination,

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that let's see a six year old boy a political murder.

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But the letter does not stop here like it did

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all the times before. In the circle of Vero Beach,

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Indian River County law enforcement, it is well known fact

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that it was a political killing. And then of course

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the Hollywood detectives also thought that it might have been

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a mob hit. So basically back and forth, and then

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this guy, I guess I'm assuming, gets stifled. Right. I

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don't know what the disposition of this individual is, if

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he's still alive, if this was he's basically stating that

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he used to be a millionaire and that that due

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to what they have done to him, he's basically lost

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all of his money and was hiding out at a

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friend's house in Vero Beach or yeah, Saint Saint Petersburg.

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I think see if I can go to that, I

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believe he was sorry.

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He was a big to do in the media and

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newspapers and things like that, so I think he was

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a journalist.

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Oh, it would be interesting to figure out who this

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gentleman is. And he does refer to some media people.

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So at the end, which I wasn't able to decipher

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the entire message, said an innocent ad lib to me

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by Hans Freeman. Hands Freeman of CNN at least be

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terrified these people into Adam's death. They had to do

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something drastic at once or be exposed. What about the

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statement of Barbara Walters in San Francisco? And then I

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couldn't read this last little section that's there at the bottom.

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It's too blurry. The letters have bled into each other.

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But I really feel like if they're going to create

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a FOY a file of information on unsolved cases, that

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they should have the gall to scan it in at

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a resolution good enough to make it legible thirty forty

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years from now. I mean, you're not serving anything in

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this state.

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And it made me think, like, you know, because I've

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seen other case files that are not like this. But

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then it makes you think, like, what other cold case

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files that are that old are like this and that

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are unsolved. And that's one reason probably why they're not solved,

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because they probably threw away the paper file and all

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you have is to scan file.

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So what if that was the case, then you're like,

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it's like.

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Really, and they shouldn't do that because clearly this being

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a piece of evidence or at least a lead in

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the actual case, you should not throw away these types

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of evidence, right.

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Right, No, it's it's physical evidence, right yeah.

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People get the same exactly and what I founds whatever, No,

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you have to have the original document, especially.

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Some of the pictures.

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You should see what some of the pictures in here

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look like, Oh my god, they're like it's like white

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with like a fake but like like like like a

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box around it, like you could tell it was a picture,

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but like how they scan it in like you.

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Could a picture of anything, Like Yeah, I was like,

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what is this?

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Well if that's intentional or inadvertent, yeah.

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about the Zodiac Foil files. When you go into the

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Zodiac Foil files and the FBI archives and you look

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at some of the communications that are attributed to the

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Zodiac case, the way that they scanned them in, now

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you can you can look at the the reports and

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the different communications going back and forth between law enforcement,

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and they're scanned in they look absolutely normal. There's nothing

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messed up, deranged, or altered about them. But if you

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look at the actual communications, they have truncated them, squosed

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them down like they have done. I said, squos this

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is a word, at least for me, guys. But they

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warped the communications so badly that it would be almost

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impossible for anybody investigating the case today to know what

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that handwriting looked truly like. So it wasn't just the

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fact that they scanned it in at such a low

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resolution and DPI that it literally you know, truncated or

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compacted it. I mean it literally warped it. If I

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showed you side by side, and I believe I've done

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this in the past, where I've showed individuals what the

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actual communication looked like in comparison to what was scanned

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into the FOIA files, you see that drastic difference. And

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I think that that's not inadvertent, that's definitely on purpose.

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I really do think, because this is the same it's

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the same concept in the Adam Walsh case. Ftile this

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clear and then it's like crap.

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Right, and this one it looks clear, and thing's warped

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about it whatsoever. It doesn't look like it's been squished

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or truncated like it. It looks absolutely normal. So why

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the zodiac communications do not is really kind of baffling.

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Now that takes me to this letter, which we didn't

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make it to because I honestly can't read this thing.

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You said, this was an extremely interesting letter from John Stack,

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and I don't have a clue what it says. Who's Yeah,

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tell us what you.

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Said, John? He said, who's John Stack? She means.

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Right, it's no, this is a letter you sent me

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from a John P. Stack. And you said, this is

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an interesting letter from John Stack.

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Yeah he was. He was the man on Unsolved Mysteries. Yes,

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and he was from California and their studio and everything

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was in California.

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Oh so you mean he was what the commentator on,

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you know, the guy that.

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Used to have the coat on Unsolved Mysteries, and.

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He'd be like today on Unsolved Mysteries was going to

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be discussing by basis.

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Like that.

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John Walsh before John the John Walsh And because you

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know you didn't, Unsolved Mysteries pretty much faded out and

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went away.

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When America SMIs wanted came out right, and that my

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thought was kind of significant. Why is he writing a

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letter to write?

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Okay, so like that famous guy that's on Forensic Files,

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he's the voice over or the the person who talks

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and commentates throughout the segment.

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Yeah, but he actually it shows him.

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So if you if you remember a makrismas wondered how

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John w Wash he walks up and has his hands

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in his pockets and he's like today on Yeah, Like

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it's like the same concept, but instead of the black jacket,

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the black leather jacket and the jeans with John Walsh,

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John Stack is wearing a long trench coat and it's

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like they're usually like a it's like a gray or

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sometimes it's like a light brown tan or beige, and

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it's always like uh, like he always has his hands

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in the pockets too on it and it's.

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Like Loss copied him.

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Literally if you go if you just pull up little

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clips like the later on Today or something, and you

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see what I'm talking about, and I'm like and you're like,

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what is going on here?

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Like what?

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So do you know what the contents of the letter

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was that made it so interesting or is it just interesting?

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That it came from an individual who was on Unsolved Mysteries.

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Oh he was the man. He was the John Walsh

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back before the John Walsh.

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No, no, no, But what I'm saying is is you stated

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that the letter was interesting. I'm trying to determine why

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it was interesting to you. Were you able to read it?

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Do you know what the contents of the letter said.

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I couldn't read the middle part. It was just saying

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how they might have had information about another case that

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was in California that may be connected, because there's a

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lot of stuff like that in there where it's like,

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I mean, people from all over the United States would

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contact the police station and say, hey, we have a

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similar case here, blah blah blah, we might have some

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information for you, or we might connect something like that.

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I think it was that kind of deal. So yeah,

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all right, well then that.

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Makes sense saying that, you know, he's out of California,

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and while I look and when I look that address

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up that actually was his address where he was living,

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and everything so got and then the way he was

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on the show, on his show, and then the way

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John it was just like very strange.

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It looks like someone intentionally almost redacted significant portions of

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it to conceal what it really contains, because you can't

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read most of it.

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His signature is nice and strong, so why the rest of.

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The top is readable the first paragraph, but after that

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it gets tough to read.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean completely missing portions altogether. This was

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never meant to be.

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And if you think about, like, okay, a type letter

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should be the easiest thing to scan in and to

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show up clearly.

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All of their.

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All of their file requests, all their reports, all of

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their law enforcement things back and forth to each other,

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are a very nice and strong and they're all type

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written as well.

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Mm hmm yeah yeah within like yeah, so it's no

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excuse for that, you know.

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No, no, unless this was a carbon copy set in

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threes just like the zodiac did.

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I mean it could be, but at all, because but

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they were cop they were scanned in like in ninety eight.

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I think, well, even even the Sherry Joe confession letter,

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which was type written, was indicated to have been on

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carbon copy. So he put in what I think they

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thought was at least three pieces of paper and two

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pieces of carbon And then this letter evidently was sent

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to either more than one location, or he chose the

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one in the center that was definitely just made out

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of the carbon portion rather than the actual type print

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in order to submit his message. Either way, it it

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was scanned in at a resolution that was much better

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and it was readable unlike this letter. All right, well

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we now know why this one was interesting. That's going

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to actually take us back to the murders, to what's

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going on with Jack. Now, we have a murder in Austin,

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Texas on December sixth of nineteen ninety one that I

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thought was completely up the alley of the Zodiac Killer.

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And what I do know, though I don't know the

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precise date, is that this is really the time frame

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in which Nora and Jack split again. So I like

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to remind everybody that we start to see things pick up.

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Jack is back in Texas. Whenever there's a split or

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a breakup for Jack, whether it's with previous wives or

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with Nora, we start to see things going on once again,

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and murders seem to ramp up, ramp up communications, just

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as we've seen in these nineteen ninety one communications coming out,

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and we know that Jack is going to be I'm

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going to show you that he's back in Texas at

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least by February, if not by January. So we have

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this murder and it's called the Yogurt Shop murders in Austin, Texas.

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Thirteen year old Amy Ayre's, seventeen year old Jennifer Harbison,

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fifteen year old Sarah Harbison, and seventeen year old Eliza

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Thomas were killed in this. In this murder spree, cops

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believed that it was shortly after midnight that it occurred.

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They were all tied to gather, bound and gagged with

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their own clothes. They were shot in the back of

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the head, execution style, and three girls were stacked on

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top of each other. This was really reminiscent to me

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to the South Carolina murder in nineteen forty three, the

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Lake Bottom murders that were obviously in another country, but

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it was a campsite, and then the place after they

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were stacked on top of each other, they were set

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on fire. So we have the arson aspect as well.

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So we have by gun, we have by knife, we

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have basically by rope, even though it was his their

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clothes that were used. Right either way, it kind of

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ticked off all of those boxes, and we know that

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Jack has left Nora, though we're not exactly sure of

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the timeframe. December twenty seventh, nineteen ninety one, we see

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a murder back in Fairfield, California, of Amanda and Nicole

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Eileen Campbell. Her bike is found in a field. A

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lot of these child abductions and murders, we literally find

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a bicycle that's been posted up somewhere close by, left behind,

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in some cases stacked on top of the bodies. Either way,

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it's almost like when we have these couples murders where

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the cars go missing and are found some you know,

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short distance or miles away to the same token. It

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is very reminiscent, and that brings.

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So I found so real quick time later I found

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a whenever I first found that letter from John Stack,

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I forgot that I had took it and put it

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in my software and made it like blew it up

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to where and made it more contrasted so I could

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read it.

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And I just found that piece.

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So are you able to read any portion of it?

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Yeah, yep, it read it. My name is John Stack.

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How are you doing.

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I've seen your story twice and as a single parent

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of a ten year old boy.

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I'm very scared and very angry.

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Your statement about not understanding the priorities of this country

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when and when it comes to the protection of our

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children rather surprise me. If you look at history world, abuse,

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mayhem and exploitation of children is nothing new.

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In Scotland. Something something.

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Mothers had days to take their babies' whole minds and

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drove and broke their backs drying trying to take enough

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money to feed them benefits. This country had to pass

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child labor laws to stop the brutal exploitation of children.

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Okay, we're about to get the good one.

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Uh.

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There it has.

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There has down a felony complaints arrest weren't issued for

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any for something ex wife for years to provide child support.

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The DA just informed me that the collection of child

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support has been very has been very a priority and

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nothing new to him for the parent court.

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Blah blah blah. I'm trying to just skip down. Okay,

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here we go.

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So you know, the FBI has plenty of this information

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and all and all the money they need to run

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this sting operation to entrap some rotten congress that we

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all know are a part of the system. Any Aren't

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they running sting operations to find out what's happening to

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the fifty thousand children that are go missing each year

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in this country, never to be seen again. His answer

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will be, there's no money, there's no persistence in it

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for them. I've written a very hard hitting documentary film

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proposal about this subject.

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Instantly.

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No one has seen it, nor I have had the

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time to shop for production money or had time something.

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It also suggests, in basic detail.

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How there can be a new protection system designed and

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developed for children.

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If you feel you.

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Have the time and avenues to secure the needed funds,

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I would be happy to send you the proposal upon

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written requests. It should be produced and distributed asap. He

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wrote that out in put dots you can see hot

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Congressmen dor Nan spends our time sincerely yours John's deck

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or John B's deck.

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Wow.

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So he's right. So he is basically touching on the

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child trafficking ring, the involvement of politicians, just short of

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actually indicating that there's mob involvement, which I'm pretty sure

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that that's where it all emanates from. I mean, I

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don't believe that those in politics are running the illegal

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rings they're just participating in it and facilitating. Right, they're funding,

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allowing me, they're allowing it. I just watched the plight

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on the steps of Well it was in Washington, d C.

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By the victims of the Epstein case, and it just

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dawned on me. I mean, I'm not going to say

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dawned on me as much as instilled my thoughts that

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Trump is not going to release this Epstein file. It

476
00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:58.319
implicates him. It implicates just so many different political people,

477
00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:02.319
high influential, rich, well individuals.

478
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.200
I don't think I don't think that they're allowing him

479
00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:06.839
to I think that, but he's in it.

480
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:10.039
He's in it. I mean, let's let's let's be real, right,

481
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:13.160
he's part of it. So there's there's a reason for

482
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:17.079
him not to and join that band. So it's unfortunate.

483
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:20.720
But watching that just really made me, you know, realize

484
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:23.640
that we've got people who are standing here saying I

485
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:28.799
was abused by the Prince of England. I was abused

486
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:33.759
by political people, by rich people, and nobody.

487
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:35.519
A secret guy what was his name?

488
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:44.440
Uh him exactly. So to know that this is going

489
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.640
on and the public is no more outraged than they are,

490
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:49.880
and they're just going to turn their heads and look

491
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:52.440
the other way. And then we've got these individuals that

492
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.519
are out here that are you know, maybe they're Democrats

493
00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:58.079
that are hating on people who got Trump into office,

494
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:02.119
not actually realizing or wanting to rationalize that every person

495
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.319
that they back and believe that should be in office

496
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:08.880
are part of this ring and the separate to you know,

497
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:12.319
separating state from church. And we've got this the family

498
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:15.920
with the prayer breakfast, which you can see Trump as

499
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:18.200
part of. You can see all the presidents all the

500
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.000
way back. We're part of. These world leaders are part of.

501
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:25.000
And and then I was told that I think recently

502
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:27.119
and maybe Nolan you might know a little bit about this,

503
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.440
they're trying to overturn the precedence that allows same sex

504
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:34.640
marriage in the United States. Have you been aware of this?

505
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:41.319
But yeah, there's a movement and Trump and his people

506
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:47.200
are all want to abolish it. Basically, right, why do

507
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:51.039
you have to get in people's bedrooms or right, that's

508
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:52.160
their own choice, you know.

509
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.079
And have you not have you not heard that proposal

510
00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:02.880
from from Pam Bondi, that proposal about not letting extremist, uh,

511
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:06.880
you know, the shooter that that shooter guy. I've kind

512
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.839
of just put it to the side and the whole thing. Yeah,

513
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.960
well I've heard business pieces about him, but apparently he's

514
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:20.160
a trans or something. And uh, they're trying to have

515
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:24.759
those type of people uh banned from owning guns uh

516
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:28.160
and and or having them in they're in their possession.

517
00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:34.640
It's like, so that leads me to think that, Okay, well.

518
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:35.519
We don't need to do that.

519
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:37.720
We don't need to do that to anyone, because that's

520
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.279
just leading up to more people. Okay, well, if they

521
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:44.400
have mental mental issues, then that means that they can

522
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:46.920
take this law that they're trying to propose and put

523
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:49.920
it on somebody else that has mental issues, that that

524
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.279
does need a gun and protect for their protection for

525
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:57.039
whatever you know, or there whatever it is, and then

526
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.559
it's gonna be got something else. It's gonna just keep

527
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.519
going and then eventually like no one's going to have one.

528
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:04.920
So that just need that that needs it doesn't need

529
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:06.400
to be against anyone.

530
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:06.319
You know.

531
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:08.720
Okay, I got I got two statements, and I'm hoping

532
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:10.920
that I can keep them both in track. So when

533
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.759
we go back to the Netflix documentary on the Family,

534
00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:16.240
which talks about the prayer, breakfast and the induction of

535
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:19.200
all these world leaders. We see that co the guy

536
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:21.640
behind the scenes that's been seen with all the presidents

537
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:25.519
all the way back to Roosevelt. Uh. He has literally

538
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:29.319
once he gets these countries leaders on board, he then

539
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:35.200
times to manipulate their different laws and standards and things.

540
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:37.440
And in one of the countries, they were literally trying

541
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:41.079
to get same sex marriage overturned. It failed in that country,

542
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.440
But the documentary itself talked a lot about the integration

543
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:47.559
of state and their desires to have things ran the

544
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:51.880
way they believe, and that includes changing laws in other countries,

545
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:53.720
and now we're about to see that happen in our

546
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:57.319
own country. Second note on this, on this gentleman that

547
00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:59.920
had mental issues, yes, I don't believe that you should

548
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.880
have If you truly have mental issues without medications, you

549
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:06.440
probably should not own a gun because we don't know

550
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:08.359
what you're going to do. We don't know when you're

551
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:11.839
going to snap. And of the twenty three shootings, this

552
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:14.400
was some information given to me, at least from two

553
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:18.000
different avenues. I was told in one case, twenty one

554
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.680
of the twenty three shootings were mentally ill people who

555
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:27.319
were on psychotropic drugs. So basically, if you've already got

556
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:29.759
mental issues and your brain isn't working correctly, can you

557
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.400
imagine throwing a chemical at it that may not agree

558
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.799
with your system in general? And so if and then

559
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:40.599
another individual indicated they read that all twenty three were

560
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:45.200
on ps psychotropic drugs. So if you have mental issues,

561
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.039
if you were on these type of drugs and you

562
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.359
fail to take them, let's say they are working and

563
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.000
they're not messing you up, if you fail to take them,

564
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.440
as many do, then you're bound to spiral back down

565
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:58.319
into that bad behavior of those bad thoughts and then

566
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:01.920
commit these crimes out getting rid of these drugs. How

567
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:04.799
about working on the person's real issues rather than throwing

568
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:08.400
chemicals at them that cause even more issues. There's my

569
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:09.119
two cents.

570
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:12.400
Okay, I just a little sight on that. It's it's

571
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.720
a full moon last couple of days. And I never

572
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.920
said I drive on the freeways all the time in

573
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.119
Sacramento area, and I can tell when it's a full moon,

574
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.039
not even by looking at the moon, by the way

575
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:32.359
people drive, because because the moon affects a lot of people.

576
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:37.880
And there's a song about that too, the freaks come

577
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:38.599
out at night.

578
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:47.960
A speed they drive like lunatics. Yesterday, tomorrow, it's going

579
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:51.000
to be terrible. So just be careful, you know.

580
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.440
And three Rex this morning.

581
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:57.200
Three I truly, I truly believe that what you eat

582
00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:59.599
and you put in your body can have an extreme

583
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:02.839
effect done your hormones on your the chemical makeup of

584
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:06.599
your body. And what if just some of these foods

585
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:09.240
were being fed, or some of these foods that were

586
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:11.920
being allowed to buy in our grocery stores have just

587
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:17.160
enough chemicals or hormones or pesticides or other things in

588
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:20.200
them to cause these type of mental issues in people.

589
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.759
We need to start starting. We need to start with

590
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.319
the basis of what we eat and put into our

591
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:28.279
body and see how that affects everything else. Because we

592
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:31.599
do know that there are particular foods and chemicals and

593
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:36.160
preservatives and other things that absolutely affect the hormones which

594
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:39.599
will affect the chemical makeup of your brain in individuals

595
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:42.039
as young as seven and eight year olds who are

596
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:46.160
going into puberty well before they should be. So just

597
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:48.799
to note, let's look at what we're eating making money.

598
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:52.240
They know, they already know.

599
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:57.440
Yeah, all right, So back to our murders. Well, we

600
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:03.960
now have Jack, it was going on? What was really

601
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:09.039
going on? Now back to Jack, We actually have Jack

602
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:12.960
in Texas. Now, this is the first documented picture I

603
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:16.039
have of him back in Texas. It's February sixth, nineteen

604
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:19.440
ninety two. Jack's birthday at his mom's in Texas. Would

605
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.079
confirm that he is now living separate and apart from Nora,

606
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:25.440
as indicated by the next entry of her address during

607
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:28.960
this time. Also receipts for an Azuzu pickup truck sold

608
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.360
with the address in Dale, Texas from two ninety two

609
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:33.639
through twelve ninety two, as we see for Jack for

610
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:36.920
some time to come. So, Dale, Texas is approximately thirty

611
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:41.239
six miles from Austin, Texas, where the yogurt shop murders occurred. This, again,

612
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:44.239
is that proximity in which case I had indicated in

613
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.360
the past that the Zodiac held anywhere from half an

614
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:50.639
hour up to two hours away from home, maybe another

615
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:53.039
hour off in another direction to dump the body, but

616
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:57.599
always within that proximity. So we know that Jack has

617
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:02.280
purchased this property for flow in Texas, which may or

618
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:04.280
may not be his property with his name on it.

619
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.840
But I know his mother resided there until she passed

620
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:08.920
and I want to say that was the ninety six

621
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:11.400
ninety seven. We'll be getting to that soon. But you

622
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:13.719
can see these receipts down here at the bottom. He's

623
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:18.039
definitely giving the Shady Oaks a dress, which all makes

624
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:20.360
it makes sense when I say we need to be

625
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:23.760
looking at Jack and the zodiac for those yogurt shop murders.

626
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:29.199
Well, and that's whenever almost like.

627
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.840
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold, hold on, hold

628
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.840
on one second, guys, let me go back, no one

629
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:40.199
go what'd you say? The picture on the left is

630
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:46.239
actually flover This is Flova on the left, and then

631
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:49.239
on the right over here is Jack sitting here eating

632
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:54.159
his birthdake care and this is Red and and he literally,

633
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.400
in one of his letters to Red said he was

634
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:58.920
going to have to come there and basically put him

635
00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:01.159
down or shut him up like a dog, basically if

636
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.239
he didn't do what Jack was telling him to do.

637
00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:06.559
I don't know if we've gotten to that letter yet,

638
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.559
right like, don't make me have to come there and

639
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:15.119
fly a red flag, he said. I think that was

640
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:17.719
the words. All right, now, go ahead, I'm sorry, Lindsay.

641
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:18.960
She's gonna say.

642
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.400
This is kind of like the timeframe where everything kind

643
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:26.440
of hypes up again, that serial killer error and all that,

644
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:28.880
all the craziness kind of starts happening all of a

645
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:30.960
sudden again. You know how he slows down and then

646
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:33.880
he picks it back up. Well, we see that in

647
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:37.320
these years again. And also I've seen in the case

648
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.119
file that there's a lot of stuff that hypes up

649
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:41.800
in those years as well that are in the case

650
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:45.360
files about crazy stuff that is in their random things

651
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:49.000
are put in there. And and He's and then John's

652
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:51.239
getting all these letters like back to back from all

653
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.320
these different people about all these crazy, you know things,

654
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:55.400
And it just says.

655
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:59.360
Well, but by this time he's on America's Most Wanted, right,

656
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.719
Uh So he may very well be getting the crazy

657
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.000
letters because now he's in the eye of the public.

658
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:10.360
He is a celebrity, and he's trying to solve crimes, right,

659
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:12.719
So he may be getting a lot of craziness in

660
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.239
regards to it. But I always find it interesting that

661
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.800
whenever Jack is in the middle of a separation, a

662
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:20.440
divorce or a split or whatever it is that he's

663
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:24.159
got going on, trouble with the law, trouble with his

664
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:27.400
step son and the law, we start to see things

665
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:32.000
happen zodiac esque like murders in Texas. And we know

666
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:34.360
that Jack is often back and forth to Texas, but

667
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:36.679
we're going to see him here in Texas at least

668
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:40.519
for a good solid year. So anything that's happening in Texas,

669
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:42.960
I highly suggest we need to be looking at or

670
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:47.519
maybe even the affiliation to or acquaintances of these other

671
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:51.639
individuals that have been considered prime suspects for some of

672
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:54.079
these crimes, which we're going to talk about a couple

673
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:58.159
more here. On April eighth of nineteen eighty two, Robin

674
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:02.639
Fuldaur and it says Indianapolis shoe store clerk, which is

675
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:07.239
considered one of the I seventy murders, dies. On April

676
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:11.880
eleventh of nineteen ninety two, we have Patricia Maggers Patricia Smith, Whichita,

677
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:15.639
Kansas bridal shop shot after being pushed into the back room.

678
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:20.199
It's another I seventy murder. They let a witness go

679
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:23.239
after being seen, which was strange, and it happens to

680
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:26.360
be a male customer. And we know that there was

681
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:30.920
overkill on the females versus the males in the Zodiac stuff.

682
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:34.239
So I had notated myself that I wanted to research

683
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:38.039
the I seventy murders. Nora left Jack this particular year,

684
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:40.000
so we know he's free to do whatever he wants

685
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:42.920
to do. Also, research the activity compared to each time

686
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.400
they break up and divorce and get back together, which

687
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.840
I just discussed a little bit. We see the activity

688
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:50.280
pick up and we see it slow down when he

689
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.880
has a job. We see the communications kind of go

690
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.559
to the wayside, and the murders maybe go to the wayside.

691
00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:58.000
But then we start to see it ramp back up

692
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.239
and pit back up whenever something bad is going on

693
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.840
in Jack's life. On April sixteenth of nineteen ninety two,

694
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:07.039
we had the murder of a Hispanic Maria Carmen dell Strata.

695
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:11.280
Now this one was attributed to Anthony Allen Shore, so

696
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:13.000
I paid a little bit of attention to the fact

697
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:15.440
that there is a reference to a partner named Alan

698
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:19.559
in the Oakland County child murders the same spelling even

699
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.760
and he's considered to be a tourniquet killer, uses a

700
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.000
toothbrush or a bamboo stick in the tourniquet with a

701
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.719
special knot, which really kind of drove me into the

702
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:31.079
John Benny Ramsey stuff. Because yeah, she's just about to

703
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:36.960
say that. And then in Tim Miller's letters, we know

704
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:41.519
that the author is claiming that there was someone else

705
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:45.599
out there killing too Oriental and Hispanics, but not Zodiac Jack,

706
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:48.159
because he's very aware of the individual who is doing this.

707
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:51.159
He wants to make sure that Tim Miller understands that

708
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.119
there's other people out there also killing at the same time,

709
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:57.639
and almost to the degree that he even knows them.

710
00:39:57.719 --> 00:39:59.480
I mean, the way he makes it sound is like

711
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.880
he has some whole knowledge or at least he's able

712
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:05.400
to say, please, don't attribute these to me. And that's

713
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:11.159
very zodiac asque and it brings me back to when

714
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:14.400
the Zodiac was talking about the BTK bomber Kazinski that

715
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.639
I didn't bomb that cop on the police station steps.

716
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:19.199
Don't look at me for that. If you guys thought

717
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:20.880
I was going to set a bomb off your nuts,

718
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:23.159
he really just used it as a tactic to keep

719
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:30.639
them busy. And I guess Anthony Allen Shore's victims are

720
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:35.920
primarily Hispanic So this was brought into the display because

721
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.199
Jack recognized this killer in the two thousand and five

722
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:40.880
confession letter to Tim Miller. I believe he may have

723
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:43.199
been an acquaintance of this individual, and this may be

724
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:45.639
who we are looking for in the John Bennet Ramsey

725
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:47.760
case where Jack wrote the ransom note and the very

726
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:50.760
unique tournique that was found on John Bennet may have

727
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:54.119
been the work of Shore or somebody who was familiar

728
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:58.360
with it and repeated or copycatidate. Either way, I've always

729
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:01.159
been kind of convinced that they're a possibility that the

730
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:03.880
DNA is not going to match fingerprints, that's not going

731
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:06.920
to match the handwriting. So the confusion will carry and

732
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:10.480
continue on forever in regards to John Denny Ramsay, because

733
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.360
if they found somebody where the DNA matched, it's likely

734
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:16.440
the handwriting won't and fingerprints and so on and so

735
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:18.199
forth on down the line.

736
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:25.039
Quick question, Yes, Maria Carman della Strata, where was she killed?

737
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:29.559
This is in Texas, tex I figured tex Was it

738
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:30.239
near the border?

739
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.000
I don't know. I think you're we have thinking the

740
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:34.480
same thought.

741
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:38.119
I think because at that time period there were a

742
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:42.880
lot about killings in northern Mexico near Waters, the City

743
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.960
Waters and al Paso, and some of the United States,

744
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:49.239
some in Mexico, most of them in Mexico, but there

745
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:53.480
was a ring and a long Mexican law enforcement was involved,

746
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:59.039
and there's a productions and killings of young young Mexican girls.

747
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:02.400
Some more trafficking, more human trafficking.

748
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:06.159
Well, and the thing that he's talking about is all

749
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:10.679
was also this ring was associated with Honest Tool and

750
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:12.480
the cult that he was in as well.

751
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.559
Yes, there's cult connections and a lot of it goes

752
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:20.119
back to what they call the Machilodoras, the United States

753
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:24.559
factories in northern Mexico that hired cheap Mexican labor.

754
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:26.440
Have you heard of.

755
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:30.320
So have you heard the cold call it the hand

756
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:30.760
of death?

757
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.000
I have, I've probably heard of it, but I'm.

758
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:38.960
Not Yeah, and it's not it's not any it's not

759
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:42.559
anything I cover in this presentation. Unfortunately. I do know

760
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.079
that there is a relation though with Mexico in a

761
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:48.079
ranch that the CIA would post people up who were

762
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:53.039
under indictment or suspicion for that's a lot of tax evasion. Okay, Oh,

763
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:55.480
that's the one you're talking about for the hand of Dad.

764
00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:57.000
Yep.

765
00:42:58.000 --> 00:42:59.960
Oh, okay, So maybe there is a connection I'm not

766
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.960
aware of, but we do know that they would often

767
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:06.920
hide mob politician, anybody who was under indictment that they

768
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.360
needed to get out of the country. I think if

769
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:11.800
they didn't kill you or your kids to shut you up,

770
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:15.519
they scurried you out to another location where you couldn't

771
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:18.320
be questioned because you would ultimately probably pop the can

772
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:20.760
on everybody, kind of like Epstein.

773
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:26.119
I'll get my notebook out and I'll take a picture

774
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:30.960
of my notes from that from whenever I was saying that, Yeah.

775
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.039
Yeah, I did not know that was a cult. I

776
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:43.280
just thought that that was kind of a CIA operation, Yes, yeah,

777
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.440
And I didn't really find the cult. I think it

778
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:49.599
was Louise Louis if if I'm correct, it was a

779
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.960
Her last name was Spangler. She worked for one of

780
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:58.400
the big big nightclubs in the LA area, and she

781
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:03.280
had gone missing, and the Black Dahlia author had written

782
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:07.840
a postcard that was from that particular joint, and then

783
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:11.239
they had indicated that she was with another person, either

784
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:14.679
a member of the CIA or the Mob, and the

785
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:19.320
two of them had been seen. They had been seen

786
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.760
after we'ds after we were told she had gone missing.

787
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:26.239
Body is never surfaced of this individual, and that there

788
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.960
was potential for them to have been flown to Mexico

789
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:32.599
to keep them quiet basically in regards to some indictment

790
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:35.400
that they were under. So I didn't recognize it to

791
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:37.400
be a cult as much as I recognized it to

792
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:41.400
be a system within the system to ensure that these

793
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:44.159
people never testify because others would end up in trouble

794
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:48.039
over it, if that makes sense.

795
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:53.840
Anyways, A click note on the whole satanical thing. In

796
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:56.840
the Maury Terry book the journalists that wrote about the

797
00:44:56.840 --> 00:45:01.920
So Sam murders, he alleges that they're different centers, mainly

798
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:06.400
New York, but also Houston, Texas in l A and

799
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:10.360
then min not or men. I think it's North Dakota

800
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:14.039
or South Dakota. It's one of the Dakota's for centers

801
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:18.559
of uh Satanic cold activities and Houston is one of them.

802
00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:23.920
So anyway, Wow, it was called Metamorris Ranch.

803
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:28.239
Metamoros Okay, Yeah, Martha Morros.

804
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:31.079
Okay, now you you made a comment here on the

805
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:35.920
studio chat, Lindsay in regards to the Walsh fighting against

806
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:43.360
the release of Outam Walsh's files. Even that was one

807
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:43.960
of the things.

808
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:45.800
I'll put that in there because that when we're since

809
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.000
we're coming up on the on the on then on

810
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:48.840
the mid nineties.

811
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:51.039
Uh, that was in nineteen ninety.

812
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:53.159
Six where they literally went to court and tried to

813
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:55.480
fight against fight against them being released.

814
00:45:56.239 --> 00:46:00.400
That's insane, That makes absolutely no sense, no sense.

815
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:01.599
Yep.

816
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:05.480
You supposedly don't know who killed your son, beheaded him,

817
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:09.480
no less mm hmm, and you want to fight against

818
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:12.719
the release of that information which could help solve the.

819
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:15.800
Case someone coming forward.

820
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:19.760
The only thing I can read it that is that

821
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:23.239
you don't want your information, the things that might lead

822
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:27.480
back to your nefarious deeds released, because ultimately speaking, they

823
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.039
dug up I'm sure a lot of information. Oh yeah,

824
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.599
probably the same reason why he didn't want the FBI

825
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:35.360
to assist and hoping that in that particular.

826
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:45.199
Yep, and then hired his own uh retired uh not

827
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:51.079
FBI retired police agent from Miami to uh come in

828
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:54.679
because oh he was a good friend and got him

829
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:58.960
to solve the case after that, but.

830
00:46:58.920 --> 00:46:59.920
They didn't solve the case.

831
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:05.639
A right.

832
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:09.440
Yeah, that's just a little bit too too, too crazy,

833
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:13.559
too strange. How do you promote a show working with

834
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.760
the FBI trying to solve cases when you fight to

835
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:20.440
keep yours from getting saltd you fight from having the

836
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:23.440
very individuals that you now work with involved in it.

837
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:26.119
That's it's too shady, it's too strange for me.

838
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:31.480
That's why I'm like digging, just keep I just keep digging,

839
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:32.960
and I just keep.

840
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:35.800
On Fox.

841
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:39.639
Yep, yes, I guess your own Fox.

842
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:46.119
Yeah yeah, anyway, Yeah, I just I had a hunch.

843
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:49.039
I never really watched show I was airt.

844
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:58.719
But so carrying on with Jack, at this point, we

845
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:03.000
have more more instances of him being in Texas, and

846
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:05.760
this is April nineteenth of nineteen ninety two. As I

847
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:08.400
had stated in the past, there are plenty of times

848
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:12.079
we've seen Jack in Texas, visiting Mom on Easter. It

849
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:14.599
must be something particular, but we know he is literally

850
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:19.360
living here at this point. It says April nineteenth, nineteen

851
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:21.800
ninety two, Jack is at a family gathering for Easter,

852
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.679
and there's no sign of Nora or Charles in these pictures,

853
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:28.280
so it's clearly Jack here. Loane, there are pictures of

854
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:31.519
Flova's new house on Shady Oaks and Chubb's place in

855
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:35.119
Sagein Now I'm a little confused because we read some

856
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:39.519
time ago what was supposed to be the eulogy for

857
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:44.800
Chubbs for Jack's or maybe Chubbs is Jack's uncle. I'm

858
00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:47.800
trying to determine whether I had the right one. But

859
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:51.159
it's said that Dawn had written the eulogy for his brother,

860
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.519
and so now I'm even more I'm confused. I'm gonna

861
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:57.440
have to go back and cross reference to see if

862
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:01.920
Chuck or Charles is than Chubbs, and maybe one is

863
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:04.360
an uncle, and maybe I have misstated some of the

864
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:09.159
family dynamics here because Chubbs I believe is Jack's brother

865
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.400
and he is still living in Texas at this time,

866
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.960
So that pretty much I'm going to stop there. We'll

867
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.039
pick back up on this next murder and other information

868
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.239
that we have about Jack in the Texas area at

869
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:23.280
that time. Is there anything you guys want to add

870
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:23.880
last minute?

871
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:26.840
Be careful out there.

872
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:33.039
It's a full man. Yeah, it said the seventh. There's

873
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:35.920
supposed to be some type of I think eclipse. Again,

874
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:39.719
I don't know what it knows about these things. It

875
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:43.360
was showing this bright red blood moon. Yeah, that would

876
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:47.440
be even worse. Well, thank you Lindsey for being here,

877
00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:50.719
Thank you Nolan. Everybody have a great weekend, and we

878
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:51.920
will see you next Friday.

879
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:55.280
See your Friday not sooner

880
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:15.360
Do you think do