Dec. 5, 2025

Segway on John Mark Karr

Segway on John Mark Karr
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One of the most controversial suspects in the Jon Benet Ramsey murder is John Mark Karr, and I simply can’t ignore the simple “coincidences” surrounding his confession, earlier charges of pedophilia, Zodiac Killer letters to Tom Voigt, extradition, subsequent acquittal of all charges, and the rabbit hole I found myself in after following some of the connections. I was right back in the middle of John Walsh, Jeffrey Epstein, and those they are affiliated with. How this shapes history and future.

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Good morning, True seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac

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to Welcome to the show today, Nolan del Campo.

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Good morning everybody. Sorry about my lighting.

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No, that's okay, you're incognito. You just need some dark

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glasses like Terry b used to wear. And I'd like

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to also welcome Lindsay Mack. I'm all Mac macbrayer prayer.

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Good morning, beautiful. All right, So this last week got

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a little bit in saying, you guys, I hate it

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when I get taken down a rabbit hole, but I

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think I got sucked in for about six hours last

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Sunday on some of this stuff. I was trying to

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do some research on John Mark Karr, and my fingers

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just led me to where my fingers led me to

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and I hope I can make those connections as to

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how my brain operated in the way I ended up

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finding the things that I found. But we are going

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to definitely go from john Mark Carter segueing back to

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today and current things, because some stuff was just absolutely

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awe shocking. Last week, we were finishing off on a

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article that was in regards to John Mark Carr. It

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was written in two thousand and six, of course, after

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he was turned it after he turned himself in. So

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this was Saturday, August nineteenth of two thousand and six.

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This article was written. I don't see the name of

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the person, but it was the Spokesman Review from Washington.

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I'm not sure why they climbed in other than the

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fact that John Benney Ramsay was pretty much an international case.

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Everybody knew about this little girl. This particular article read though,

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and we started it. I started this portion, but I

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just want to refresh. We'll start from the beginning of

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the article and make her way through. It says case

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and now everybody case is the interesting. She has a

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case which is john Mark Carr, but she is the

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attorney for john Mark Carr. And it says Cay said

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that she did not know the depth of the investigator's

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suspicion in two thousand and one that her client could

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have had a role in John Benney's death, but she

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said it seemed somebody dropped the ball. She said that

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she was not contacted by law enforcement officials from Boulder,

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and that no one sought to test her client's DNA

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to determine whether it matched evidence from the Colorado crime.

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It never went anywhere, she said, So this was supposedly

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a inside information that she had been given by somebody

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that John Mark Carr was purportedly a suspect of interest

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in de John Benny Ramsey murder as early as two

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thousand and one, which I know he moved from Alabama

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to Pedaloma, California, I want to say in two thousand

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and one, because this is where he gets busted ultimately

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before leaving the country. And I don't know in hindsight

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when she's discussing this in two thousand and six, that

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she's revealing these type of sentiments in two thousand and

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six because he is, you know, worldwide news at this point,

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and she had previously been his attorney. But she goes

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on to say, and her name is Marie Case, who

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represented Carr on two thousand and one misdemeanor charges, said

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Friday that members of the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department mentioned

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to her at the time that there was possibly some

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involvement in the Ramsey slain twelve hundred miles away in Boulder, Colorado,

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just saying, hey, we're looking at this guy, so what

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what is it that you know? She was told at

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that time, And like she said, they they were interested

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in him, but never ran his DNA. And needless to say,

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when we when we do see him get busted and

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his DNA's ran, he is not a match. But he

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has some inside information that makes it plausible for our

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country to believe he is the suspect. And we fly

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all the way to Europe and we you know, gather

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him up and we've extra di ited him back here

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to California. And that's pretty much where this article is

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going to go.

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Yeah a good question.

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Yeah, oldest Sonoma Kuty Sheriff Department have been looking at

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the John Brancakes exact. Well, why would they share their

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information with Bowler.

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Right right there? Well, that's that whole pissing contest. Everybody

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wants to be the person, right, Yeah, you bagged the

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man who blocked the suspect who you know, in either way,

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if they thought they had him incarcerated at this point

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time in two thousand, when she's if they searched his

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house or what, I'm assuming that their thought process for

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having him as a suspect was before he moved to California,

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I mean obviously, right, So how she gets this with

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you know, this whisper from you know, law enforcement is

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is beyond me. But again, I don't know if she's

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just looking for fifteen minutes of fame to say I

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represented him back then, and he was a suspect back then,

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and she's just highling on you know, the plus plus factor.

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It's odd for law enforcement to reach out to defense

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attorneys with any information.

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Well, and I think says she said that, Well, so

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members of the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department mentioned to her

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at that time. So so for whatever reason, law enforcement

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and what you're right, why would they be sharing anything

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like this. He is incarcerated it at this point for

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child pornography. I would assume that his DNA would have

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had to have gone into the system, right, two thousand

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and one. We're doing that, are we?

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Okay? But I thought at the time, but I know now,

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could he porners up feeling?

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Yeah? Yeah, it's not a misdemeanor, I think. But this

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is written after the fact. And of course they subdue

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the things they want to subdue, right, they blow up

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the things they want to blow up. Like that, the

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media is ultimately in control in the thought processes and

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the narratives that we're going to perceive. I guess. The

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article goes on to say on Wednesday, Sonoma court records

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show at California Superior Court judge granted prosecutor's requests to

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steal the police reports that had led to cars arrest

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on the child pornography charges. That blows by minde.

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I'll tell you why.

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Well, he was a patsy. Well, I know, and that's

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kind of what I'm leading to in the whole he

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was and I'm not going to say he's a patsy.

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A patsy as somebody who blamed the crime on unbeknownst

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to them, right, in.

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This sense, it was a different type of patsy.

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Yeah, I think in this sense that he was the

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distractor and he was given full reign and opportunity. But

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the connections that we're going to make here today, just

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again they blow my mind, it says. The porn charges

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were lodged against Car less than a year after he

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moved with his family from rural Hamilton, Alabama, to Petaluma,

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a small town in California Wine Country, in the summer

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of two thousand. Several acquaintances from Alabama interviewed Friday said

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they never understood why the family left. Starting in early

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two thousand and one, Car worked sporadically as a substitute teacher.

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That April, Sonoma County detectives informed him that he was

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under suspicion for child pornography based on a confidential tip.

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Investigators served two homes in Pedaluma and seized two computer

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hard drives, a laptop, computer, and other equipment that belonged

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to Carr. During an hour long videotaped interview with Detective

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Martin Frey, Carr denied that he had engaged in child pornography,

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according to court records. The records indicate that he told

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Frey he was researching a book about Richard Allen Davis,

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the man convicted of another notorious child slain in the

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nineteen ninety three. Yeah, the nineteen ninety three murdered of

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twelve year old Poly Class, who had lived in Pedaluma.

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Carr said he kept Class's death certificate in a binder

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at home. The record show Carr was charged with five

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counts of child pornography. In an interview Friday, Mark Klass,

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Polly's father, said he had never heard of Car until

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his arrest this week, but speculated that Carr came to

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Pedaluma to be close to the side of his daughter's death.

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The guy had an obsession with my daughter. Class said.

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He lived in Alabama with his family, and all of

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a sudden he moved to a sleepy little farm community

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in northern California and ends up living eight tenths of

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a mile from where she was. This guy seems to

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be a little dead girl group pedophile groupie. Now. The

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only thing that really boggles me about this is that

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Class was killed in nineteen eighty three, one year before

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Walsh's son. Why, if you're a groupie, you move when

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all the happenings are happening, you know, only not nearly

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a decade later. So whether he had an a you know,

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infinity for you know, looking up class or or keeping

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information in regards to her, almost as if he's cataloging

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some of these deeds. I guess, if you will, that's

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the way.

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He's part of.

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He's some type of way linked to their little crew

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of like like it's like a serial killer group. That yeah,

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a different aspect. He was a different player of that group.

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That's what That's what I think. I think this evidence

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shows that there's definitely some inclusion with John Mark Car.

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So on Thursday, after learning that car may have corresponded

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with Davis Class's killer, guards at San Quentin State Prison

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searched Davis's death row cell but found no evidence, according

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to Lieutenant Eric Messick, a prison spokesman. On Friday, Case

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Carr's former defense attorney confirmed in an interview that she

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had been aware her client had an interest in both

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the Class and Ramsey cases. After Car's arrest in two

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thousand and one, the bond was set at one hundred

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thousand and he was jailed for five months. Carr was

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released under a program of supervision. He skipped a court

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appearance before the trial and left town. He just vanished, disappeared.

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Case said, now, is that normal Nolan in these types

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of cases where they would imprison you for five months

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and then just before your trial let you go.

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Depends on his record, I would think, and if he's

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deemed to be a potential threat to the community or

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to be bailed out, so there's got to be a

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bailam in those things. And then my thing is, did

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he get convicted of a mistermeror or a feeling? Because

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I think back then it was told maybe they reduced it,

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maybe they pled out and reduced it to a mistermeanor no.

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No, he never even appeared at trial. He left the country.

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So we've got a William Coleman on our hands here, right.

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You've been busted or you're being looked at for a crime,

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and you just leave the country, which this boggles me.

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So if his bond was set at one hundred thousand,

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then that means he would have had to come up

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with ten thousand dollars right to get out of jail.

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Unless he's represented by a private council, it would be

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eight thousand.

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Okay. Even then the man is acting sporadically as a

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substitute teacher. Where do you come up? Where do you

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come up with eight thousand dollars? You know this is

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like Jack and his lack of jobs and being able

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to move and buy places in different states, constantly on

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the go, going here and going there. It's an oddity.

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I know that right now, somebody asked me to come

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up with eight grand and bail myself out. I have

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to sell something.

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In the bail analysis, especially at that time. It's changed

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a bit because of recent cal For's Supreme Court cases,

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but it's still essential to same. It's two things, threat

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to the community and flight risk.

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Well, if the.

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Guys from Alabama, that makes him a flight risk to

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begin right there. And if it's the wherewithal of the

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post eight grand bail, that means he's got the wear

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with all to get plane tickets.

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Well, and that's the other thing.

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So just to took flight risk and he's the potential

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threat to the community, he's a pedophile.

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You're saying all that the oh, I'm getting goosebumps. You're

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saying all the things that I think when I think

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about this man going to jail for five months and

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then being released forty five days, so he had to

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come up. Why didn't he come up with this bail

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money in the first five months? Why was it that

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it occurred at the time that it did. I have

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so many questions.

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Well, it says on Thursday, after learning that car may

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have corresponded with oh we already did that, okay, and

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to the next one. Oh huh, all right, So this connection.

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So I told you guys, I'm going to keep you

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in the loop of my brain. So this guy has

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a connection or an interest in the class case. Now

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we know that Polyclass created some legislation, right, yeah, And

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then we know that John Benet Ramsey case also or

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I'm sorry, John Walsh case a year later, not only

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created some legislation but also then created the National Center

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for Missing and Exploited Children. So something seems to fall

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in line. And we've also got John Walsh beginning the

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America's Most wanted with the FBI, which is what I

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find so interesting about the National Center for Missing and

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Exploited Children, because once I started to look into that.

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So Polyclass is murdered on October first, nineteen eighty three.

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It garnered national media attention, made media outlets big money

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on the stories, which garnered national media attention and created legislation.

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Adam Walsh in nineteen eighty four made media outlets big

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money on stories that garnered world world media attention and

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created legislation, and the National Center of Missing and Exploited Children,

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and John Walsh becomes the host of America's Most Wanted.

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So when I looked up the National Center for Missing

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and Exploited Children, I came across this from Wikipedia, says

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the abbreviated NCMEC is a private, nonprofit organization established in

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nineteen eighty four by the United States Congress. So that's

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the legislation I'm talking about that they create. Government created

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this on behalf of John Walsh. So in September twenty thirteen,

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the United States House Representatives, United States Senate, and the

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President of the United States reauthorized the allocation of already

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million in funding for the organization as part of Missing

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Children's Assistance Reauthorization Act of twenty thirteen. The current chair

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of the organization is John Grosso of Coles So Cole's

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Department Stores, Think Very Big.

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And see and it used to be jac Penny.

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Wow. I didn't know that.

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never heard that.

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That's that's what we have here. And I want to

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say that we still had j C. Pennies at the

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time Coles possibly was around. I can't really recollect for

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a long time. It wasn't the mall for a very

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long time, right, So typically j C. Pennies you'd find

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in the mall. Coals you usually find in a strip mall,

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not like a standard mall like the Galleria exactly.

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So it says real quick before we get off.

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That I'm not getting off of this. We're going to

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be here a minute, go ahead. Well I was.

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I was just gonna say, I know for a fact

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that's Jase Penny because they still have the signs on

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jcpenny doors. I went to a j Spenny last year

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and saw it and I was mind blown about fell

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on the floor when I seen that it had the

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little code atom uh symbol on the freaking front.

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Door of j C.

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Penny.

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I literally and I videoed it. I was like, holy

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s Hi, what.

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Are you talking about? The code?

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into department stores to uh. It's it's like a protocol

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that aught that they put in. Certain department stores have

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to adopt it, adopt to it and uh where they

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have like this, certain protocol what the employees are supposed

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to do in case of a kidnapping.

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Actually have been closing or whatnot like the series in

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other places like that. Even the Macy's are closing now.

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But did Coles acquire part of J C. Penny or

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overtaking that might be.

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That might be what has happened, and that may be

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whyt Wikipedia has updated to that.

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I guess, you know how sometimes they close here, but

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they're still open in other states. So things like Albertson's

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and I mean these different stores that we used to

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once have here in California. It's almost as if they

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start up here in California, move themselves across the East

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and then slowly but surely are you know, replaced by

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other entities here in California. But they still remain open.

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Like Lindsay said, she saw what j C. Pennies last year.

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Yeah, and ours is still open our.

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Okay, So see jay C. Penny's is not gone. It's

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just been rebranded, renamed, re whatever, and probably to get

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them out of those contracts in those malls that are

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going down and under when the mall starts to fail

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and nobody's going there anymore, and they want to produce

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a larger, greater, better mall. You know, they start shutting

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down all those little stores and they reopen under different names,

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I believe. Yeah, so this says the current Yeah. The

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current chair of the organization is John Grosso. Cohle's NCMEC

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handles cases of missing miners from infancy to young adults

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through age twenty. Primarily funded by the United States Department

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of Justice, the NCMEC acts as an information clearing house

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and resource for parents, children, law enforcement agencies, schools, and

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communities to assist in locating missing children and to raise

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public awareness about ways to prevent child abduction and child

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sexual abuse. John Walsh, Noreene Gohosh, mother of Johnny Gosh,

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who went missing in nineteen eighty two, and others advocated

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establishing the center as a result of frustration stemming from

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a lack of resources and a national coordination between law

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enforcement and other government agencies. Whoo Okay, My issue here

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is that the information that Lindsey Mack has shared with

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us indicated that John Walsh did not want help from

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FBI and other agencies.

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Correct, Correct, And that's documented.

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So why are we getting a forty million dollars a

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year contract to create a center to bring the law

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enforcement together when he did everything to avoid the assistance

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a law enforcement agencies is question number one now as

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I get further into it. On April six, twenty eighteen,

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it was announced in Forbes magazine that the Department of

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Justice had seized and shut down the website of frequent

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nemesis of NCMEC called backpage dot com, on the grounds

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that it had frequently facilitated human trafficking. Now, mind to

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with this is that they're very well aware now Internet

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servers are not being held responsible. So there are actual

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laws in the Internet RURLD where the person who's posting

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these individuals that are creating these types of websites cannot

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be held responsible for how their patrons use their sites.

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I think that's complete. BS. Yeah, you are making a

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type of money that you're making off of servicing individuals.

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You should also have who Facebook monitors us, Lincoln monitors us,

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You too monitors us? Why are these other people monitored

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or monitoring the individuals that are using their their servers

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to create or to commit crimes. Also, this kind of

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reminded me of is NCMEC getting rid of their their

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competition exactly.

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I don't know me, you.

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Guys well, and it makes sense because they have access

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to as you just read, they have access to even

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the pictures that the yearbook comes to the school and.

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Takes the pictures of these children.

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They have access all have access to those pictures, all

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of them, anytime they want.

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And I think this might have been what Harriet was

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alluding to when she stumbled onto the National Center. I

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got the sense that she was trying to explain to

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me there was something nefarius about this agency and wait

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till you get to the part that really blew my

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shorts off. But that might have been what she was

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trying to allude to in some of her solves, it says.

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NCMEC released a statement, The National Center for Missing and

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Exploited Children just learned that backpage dot Com was seized

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by the FBI, I r S and the US Postal

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Inspection Service with analytical assistance from the Joint Regional Intelligence Center.

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This is another step in the year's long fight against

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the exploitation of victims who were brought and sold for

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sex on backpage dot Com. Hashtag NCMEC is waiting alongside

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the rest of the world to see what will come next.

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We stand by the victims and their families as they

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process this news and continue to fight for justice against

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those who profited from their abuse hashtag and sex trafficking.

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In September of twenty thirteen, the United States House of Representatives,

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the United States Senate, and the President of the United

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States voted to reauthorize the forty million in funding for

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the organization as part of Missing Children's Assistants Reauthorization Act

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of twenty thirteen. In nineteen eighty four, the US Congress

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passed the Missing Children's Assistants Act, which established a National

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Resource Center and clearinghouse on Missing and Exploited Children. On

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June thirteenth, nineteen eighty four, the center, formed by Adam

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Walsh's parents, Revey and John Walsh, alongside other children's advocates,

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was officially opened by President Ronald Reriggan in a White

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House ceremony. The national twenty four hours toll free Missing

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Children's hot Line one eight hundred the Lost was also established.

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Did I wait a minute? Where did I?

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And?

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When George Bush came into the effect, he passed the

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Law for the Sex of the National Sex Offender Registry.

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Say that again, then that's so.

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So at first the National Sex Offender Registry actually was

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only in.

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A couple of states, and he made a.

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Made a deal where it would where every state had

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to adapt to it, so that way it could be

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in every state where they could track any sex of

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any sex offender that has created any type of prime.

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Uh to a minor and there.

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And that's so that's another system, another database that they

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created so they could just pick these people out any

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time they want to pin something on them.

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Now, so so when did you when did Bush do that?

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You know, it was one of the last years. It

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was one of the very last years that he was

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in office.

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That was Bush, not w Right.

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Yeah, Bush Bush Junior.

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Yeah, so when was Bush Junior president.

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Before Obama? So right, so yeah, in the oh, I'm

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looking up on my computer.

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Now, yeah, yeah, two thousand and one would have been president.

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George Senior was president from eighty eight to ninety two,

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I believe.

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Okay, so this is well after the fact that this

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would have been Junior's act.

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Then, Oh, yeah, it was. It was definitely him.

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Yeah, Reagan did the other one. So I'm thinking he

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was the next president after Reagan, but who knows.

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But it's Bush Junior that we see hanging out with Epstein, right.

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Oh, two thousand Actually, guess what it was actually done

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on Adam Walsh's birthday, July twenty seventh of two thousand

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and six.

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Okay, yeah, that's because he ran twice.

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He ran two years, right, I'm sorry, two terms. Yeah,

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oh yeah, okay, and so but again back to its

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Bush Junior we see with Epstein, right, not Granddaddy Bush. Okay,

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so we're making those connections here. Now here's the controversy,

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and this is what threw me for a loop, it says.

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In August of twenty twenty four, former NCMEC board member

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Don McGowan criticized the organization's board in a Tech Dirt

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podcast appearance, stating, I mean NCMEC has data in its

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stat banks that say some of the kids most at

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risk in the world are trends kids, and they ignore

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that data. Goes on to say in February of twenty

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twenty five, so here just recently, this is why it's

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part of what I'm doing, because this stuff is still

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ongoing in February twenty five, under the threat of losing

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funding from the federal government under the Trump administration that

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NCMEC scrubbed all resources relating to or mentioning lgbt US

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as well as removing resources for male victims of child trafficking.

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What the f.

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So I have seen that so.

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Basically or afraid if they kept it that type of

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their operational live that Trump would cut their fundy funding.

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And did you see the picture of like last year,

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i mean last month of him of John Walsh standing.

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Next to Trump at his freaking desk in the White House.

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No, yeah, And I was wondering.

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What that was about.

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And it seems like he's undercover, outing him and but

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making it look like everything's okay.

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Well, I'm just more or less plored. What do they

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think that male victims don't have the same right as

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female victims. And if our tax paying dollars are going

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to this type of an organization that was to protect children,

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it should protect both girls and boys. Yes, correct, whether

469
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:19.039
they're transgendered or not. But they're absolutely right. Transgendered are

470
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.200
the ones most at risk because they're usually displaced from

471
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:26.400
home early, they are on the streets, they are unable

472
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.960
to you know, be safe in their own skin, and

473
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:32.519
who they are around their families, so they end up

474
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:35.480
running homeless most of the time. And then these are

475
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:36.839
the kids that they're picking up.

476
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:40.279
Here's the thing. Here's the thing.

477
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:44.759
It's it's crazy how they claim that they labeled in

478
00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:48.839
those trans but the most, but the most, the ones

479
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.559
that they are interesting in the most are the little

480
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:53.440
boys I know.

481
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:57.039
And so why does this get scrubbed from the National

482
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:01.680
Center of Missing Children? And it says LGBT as well,

483
00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:06.680
not just transgendered kids. But these are the ones that

484
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:10.400
are looking for acceptance and they're probably easy to groom,

485
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.279
probably easy to pay money to to get them on

486
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:18.799
board with whatever the tactics that there are. I I'm

487
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.279
just blown away that they were able to scrub that word,

488
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:24.480
scrub all the resources.

489
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:28.119
So then if you notice the ones that are are

490
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:31.519
trans or whatever, are they're confused or they're in that

491
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:34.400
state where they don't know which way to go, those

492
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:36.960
are the ones, like you just said, they pick out.

493
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:40.039
And another reason I think they pick them out and

494
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.960
that this was probably scrubbed is because they also use

495
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:49.319
those individuals to blame other things such as like gun violence.

496
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.240
They blame it on them all the time.

497
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:58.000
And those individuals are certainly taking some type of you know, antidepressants,

498
00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:06.319
and yeah, oh, I thought I would look up who's

499
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:10.319
in charge of this joint and it was this John Grosso.

500
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:12.319
So I ran a check on him to kind of

501
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.079
see what's going on. And of course when I ran

502
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.240
a check on him, I ended up with some extremely

503
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:22.599
interesting links being Pittsburgh Crime Family. I don't know why. Again,

504
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:24.720
I did not have time to read through most of these,

505
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:27.079
but when I type in John Grosso, why is the

506
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:30.279
Pittsburgh Crime Family coming up? And then I saw something

507
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:34.440
from Reddit that said bye bye bye, mister Grosso. So

508
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:39.200
I went into that link because clearly that contained his name,

509
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:41.960
but it said yep, my asm just confirmed it. He

510
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:44.640
even questioned, what the hell is going on? Are they

511
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.200
jumping ship or what? I know? The investors have been

512
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:49.759
very unhappy with the way things are going. But yeah,

513
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:53.319
Michelle Gas and John Grosso are out. So when I

514
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:57.759
went into the reddit, yeah, when I went into the reddit.

515
00:29:57.480 --> 00:29:59.839
When I just looked him up, this is what it read.

516
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:06.319
July eight, twenty twenty five, NCR Digital editor John Grosso

517
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:10.119
shares his favorite meatless meal for lent because it's like

518
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:13.000
in the it's like from the National This is from

519
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:18.799
the National Catholic Reporter. Whatever he said for lant one

520
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.839
of the four horsemen of Roman Pasta, greedy and ingredients

521
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:25.799
is blah blah blah blah blah. You know what pas

522
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:26.960
pasa is.

523
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:29.599
Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did. We're gonna get

524
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:34.559
to that in about two seconds. I love you're always

525
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:36.599
one step ahead of me. But it's because we're researching

526
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:39.240
the same stuff without even you know, checking in with

527
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:39.920
each other on.

528
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:40.680
What we're doing it.

529
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.599
Yes, So on the Reddit article it said bye bye bye,

530
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:47.200
mister Grosso. Now that Grosso has left the company, who

531
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:49.960
will be next, how many additional upper level cuts will

532
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:52.000
be made, what other changes what we see as the

533
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:55.200
fiscal new year begins. I went down a little bit,

534
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.319
of course. It was back and forth, just talking about,

535
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.799
you know, the astonishment of Grosso being out because of it.

536
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.599
He has been running Cole's department store for who knows

537
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.319
how long. But I came across this one from Luna

538
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:08.880
Soulshine that says I think it had more to do

539
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:10.920
with the fact that he got called out for selling

540
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:13.680
these men's pajamas when he is a chair on the

541
00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:17.079
board of the directors for the NCMEC and it says,

542
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:20.480
if you know you know? So I looked at this

543
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:24.799
particular we can see these shorts right here, guys, and

544
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:30.799
I could see this emblem, this TRIANGLEA I'm getting goosebumps too,

545
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:36.200
me too, I automatically said, I feel like I just

546
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:39.079
recently saw this label, and what is this about? So

547
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.160
if you know, you know, I got to find out, right,

548
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.680
inquiring minds need to know. So I went into a

549
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.039
post that I made approximately two weeks ago from one

550
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:52.160
of my former clients and friends. Now we are friends

551
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:54.799
on Facebook, and she will post every now and again

552
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:58.000
things in regards to, you know, the stuff anybody would

553
00:31:58.039 --> 00:32:01.200
want to hate. Let's share this with everybody. So she

554
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:04.960
sends me this thing that is called codes pedophiles used

555
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:09.279
to communicate. And the first symbol is the symbol found

556
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:17.200
on these men's shorts, and it's called the boy whoa art. Yeah,

557
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:22.039
so this symbol is for pedophiles. They use it for

558
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:26.039
the boy lover. This logo, featuring a blue spiral shaped

559
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:29.839
triangle surrounded by a larger triangle, is used by pedophiles

560
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:33.839
who like young boys. The small triangle represents a small boy,

561
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:37.359
while the bigger one represents an adult man, according to

562
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:42.359
the FBI document. Now, the next symbol is kind of similar,

563
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:46.000
but it's rounded instead of angular like the triangle, but

564
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:49.440
it has the same inner circle movements, and it's called

565
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:52.200
the little boy lover. This is a variation of the

566
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:56.119
boy lover logo used by pedophiles who like very young boys.

567
00:32:56.440 --> 00:33:00.519
It also features a spiral shaped triangle, but it's are

568
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:03.960
not straight. This is deliberate and is meant to resemble

569
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:08.599
the scribbling of a young child. FBI agents say. Then

570
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:11.880
they use the heart, which this is disgusting because I

571
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:14.240
feel like the heart is just like ugh, it's one

572
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.720
of the things you want for caring, not for abusing,

573
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:21.200
And it's basically the same type of movement in the

574
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.079
heart that you see in the triangle, only the inner

575
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.359
heart obviously is going to be expressed as a little girl,

576
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.480
So it's called the girl lover logo. This logo, featuring

577
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:33.400
a small heart surrounded by a larger heart, signifies that

578
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:36.920
a pedophile is sexually attracted to young girls. The two

579
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:40.759
hearts symbolizes a relationship between an adult male or female

580
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:45.000
and a minor girl, according to the US agency. Then

581
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.319
it gets down into what looks like a butterfly and

582
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.079
all the wings are made out of hearts. This logo

583
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.640
is used by pedophiles who do not have a gender preference.

584
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:56.920
These people are sexually attracted to young boys and girls.

585
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:03.839
Then there's a the child Love online media activism logo

586
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:08.159
CLOMAL and I guess that's the acronym clo ms and

587
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.519
mary al. This symbol is used on social media by pedophiles.

588
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.559
It tells other predators that they are interested in children.

589
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.719
The FBI bulletin describes how pedophiles are using logos like

590
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.960
this one to promote their cause. Now it goes into

591
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.920
a little bit more here it says xxx is the

592
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:30.159
terminology used to refer to sites with child pornography pack

593
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.639
a set of child pornography photos, usually in downloadable format.

594
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:39.559
DW is short for Deep Web or Dark Web IRC

595
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:45.159
Text Messaging System CP slash ts slash ls are the

596
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:49.119
acronyms that identify that the message refers to child pornography.

597
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.480
Then they go on to show what they the equivalent

598
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:56.760
of these children and things mean. So, if it's a walnut,

599
00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:59.679
that's referring to children of color. If it's a hot

600
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:02.599
dog that equals a boy, If it's a pizza, that

601
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:06.119
equals a girl. If it's cheese, that's a little girl.

602
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.360
If it's chicken or pasta, there you go, there's your

603
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:14.239
pasta's hmm. It refers to a little boy. Ice cream

604
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:18.880
refers to male prostitution, sauce equals an orgy, and a

605
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:23.039
map equals semen or is the context of DNA evidence.

606
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:26.639
So I shared this so other people, if they come

607
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.880
across these particular insignias on any type of a website,

608
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:32.920
report it. There are reporting agencies that you could send

609
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.440
these people to. Sometimes we as the public have to

610
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.079
be the ones doing the work, even though the rich

611
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.599
guys are the ones making the money off of hosting

612
00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:40.559
these individuals.

613
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:44.400
So either way, can you remember you remember Joe Biden

614
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.800
and the ice cream?

615
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:47.199
No?

616
00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:50.280
I do remember something about the ice cream, but I'm

617
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.320
not sure. Go ahead, tell.

618
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:57.480
Us, Well, everybody was making these memes about him going

619
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.000
to eat ice cream because like they videoed him.

620
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:01.360
It was there's like a video.

621
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:04.960
Of him going to eat going to eat ice cream somewhere,

622
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.519
just like they would video him on the beach walking

623
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.639
around like That's whenever they were video and him randomly.

624
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:13.599
It was one of those of him eating ice cream,

625
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.760
and then everyone and then the people that do know

626
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:20.280
what that means made memes of him eating the ice

627
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:22.480
cream and they were like everywhere, like all over Twitter,

628
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:26.239
and and what's funny is like here in the South,

629
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:31.000
we just like to expose people and I don't really care.

630
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:33.840
Yes.

631
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.320
So I was driving down the road one day, it

632
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.840
was not long after this was going on, and there

633
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:44.719
was a billboard, a big billboard that had Joe Biden

634
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:49.239
looking wide eyed with his mouth open holding ice cream.

635
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:53.960
On it, and I was like, oh my god, dude.

636
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:57.360
Has has Biden been found to be connected to Epstein?

637
00:36:57.400 --> 00:36:59.119
Because you know, he had the files and he had

638
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:03.039
the list, and he didn't release him during his entire presidency.

639
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:11.360
I haven't heard anything that he was in charge way

640
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:11.840
back when.

641
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.280
Well, if you read his daughter's diary, then that's how

642
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.559
he's connected. He then prostituted his own daughter out to

643
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:21.079
people when she was little.

644
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:26.840
Yeah, but what so you don't know about what's her

645
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:28.199
name's diary?

646
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.280
No, it's out there on the it's on the web.

647
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:32.119
Yeah.

648
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:38.159
Is Joe mom is the doctor Biden?

649
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:41.519
I don't know if that's her mom or if it's

650
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.760
that other lady married before, the one that died in

651
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:46.599
a mysterious car crash.

652
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:48.760
I bet it's the other lady. I don't think it's Jill.

653
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:54.519
Yeah, I wonder what she thinks about these allegations you and.

654
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:59.440
Yuck like, Yeah, how do you have you stayed with Joe?

655
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:02.679
But that's way I haven't heard about it because they

656
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:04.039
hide it.

657
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:11.079
Hey, if they can scrub LGBT and transgender from the NCMEC,

658
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:13.719
then they can scrub anything else they want to scrub.

659
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.159
You guys, I haven't gone on to the last line.

660
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:17.360
I keep everything.

661
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:20.159
I as soon as I see it, I get I

662
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:21.400
got it.

663
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:24.400
It's mine and you can't get it back, So you know,

664
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:25.320
I want to know.

665
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.800
I spend a lot of time collecting URLs back in

666
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.280
two thousand and nine when I started my research, only

667
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.960
to find out that many of those URLs are broken today.

668
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.440
I should have captured images of what I saw, But

669
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.360
I also didn't like to hop onto a lot of

670
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:44.719
these sites because I did recognize that they are computer crashers.

671
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.599
You're going to get a virus, and there's a reason

672
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:49.760
why that stuff is out there and imposed with a virus,

673
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.000
so that if you're doing this type of research, you

674
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.960
will get that virus by entering that URL, and then

675
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:58.000
your computer will eventually crash with all the hard research

676
00:38:58.079 --> 00:38:58.719
that you've done.

677
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.360
So ye, void those sites.

678
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:03.679
Yeah, and I found a couple of them, and.

679
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:06.079
Then we didn't know that we didn't know we didn't

680
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:09.440
have any white to screenshot back then, we exactly a

681
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:10.400
picture of the screen.

682
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:13.320
So yeah, and we're gonna what, We're gonna see some

683
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:16.199
broken links here in a minute. So as I continued

684
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:19.639
my research on John Grosso, I also came up with,

685
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.239
in fact, Jeffrey Epstein. So I got a list of

686
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:25.360
about six or seven URLs. One of them was Reddit,

687
00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:27.320
and then you had to click on more if you

688
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:29.360
wanted to see more. So if you came to the bottom,

689
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:31.119
you would think that that was all you had on

690
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:33.880
John Grosso. But I clicked more, and the second I

691
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:35.840
clicked more, the very first thing that came up with

692
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:39.199
Jeffrey Epstein and Wikipedia, and I thought, what the shrek?

693
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:44.679
Now this could be a connection because the ncmec IS

694
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:46.960
is supposed to be out there, you know, taking care

695
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:49.880
of and who knows, you know, what information they may

696
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:52.760
have on Jeffrey Epstein or why this became a connection.

697
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:55.280
It also came up with a couple John's, but I

698
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:57.880
anticipated that to happen simply because I typed in the

699
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.599
word John. You know, Google is going to pick up

700
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.440
John and throw out some random John's. But John A.

701
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:09.000
Gotti was one of them. The John Brower minook from Wikipedia,

702
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:11.880
which that one is all in a completely different language.

703
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.519
I had a John Elite, John Sumraw, and a John A.

704
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.719
Gotty that came up, but I was most interested in

705
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:19.760
Jeffrey Epstein as it applied to the fact that it

706
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:20.400
was Johnary.

707
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.480
First of all, Yeah, familiar.

708
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:27.239
He was the head football coach at the two A university,

709
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:32.239
which I'm not sure where that is. Let's see Orleans, Okay,

710
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:36.599
so he served as head coach at He served as

711
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:39.559
head coach at Troy University from twenty twenty two to

712
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:41.880
twenty twenty three, and will become the head coach at

713
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:44.199
the University of Florida in twenty twenty six.

714
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:47.800
So, oh, that's why he's familiar, because that's yeah, it's

715
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:48.440
like new info.

716
00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:50.079
I don't know why he would have pulled up. That's

717
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:51.760
kind of weird, but well.

718
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:54.599
Because it's John. If you look up here, this is

719
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:56.920
what I put in. John grosseo.

720
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:01.880
So it developed you got to use yandex dot com

721
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:07.440
is another server of searching and and and uh in

722
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:09.800
de dout go they they if you want to, I

723
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:14.719
used dup doug go. Yeah, then I used the difference

724
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:19.400
is Yeah you said yandex. Yeah, it's y A N

725
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:23.039
D A X dot com dot com.

726
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:24.840
Yes, so this just pools.

727
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:27.000
Stuff from other countries more than any other one.

728
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:29.280
So yeah, and I did get some links from that.

729
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:30.880
Yeah.

730
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:33.159
So I'm thinking that the reason why is that my

731
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:36.880
keywords are John and Wikipedia. That I got these jawns

732
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:42.880
in Wikipedia, so moving on to others, so basically that

733
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.719
that made me fall right back into, of course Jeffrey

734
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:48.480
Epstein because he was the first link. And Jeffrey Epstein

735
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:53.159
does not match my criteria whatsoever. So why this takes

736
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:55.599
me back to when I looked up Zodiac or any

737
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:58.000
other in the FBI FOI files and came up with

738
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:06.199
Beabe Riboso connected to was that Saudi Arabia and individuals

739
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:09.199
who were into human trafficking and things that they were

740
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:12.119
being looked at. I was very interested in Roboso because

741
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:14.119
what did he have to do with the Zodiac case

742
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:16.840
and why did this crisscross itself. There had to be

743
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:20.840
some amount of information that crossed over that caused this

744
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:25.119
to pull when I researched the zodiac. So I just

745
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:27.159
want to share some things I did not know about.

746
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:32.000
Jeffrey Edward Epstein was born on January twentieth, nineteen fifty three,

747
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:34.599
in Brooklyn, a borough of New York City. His parents,

748
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:40.119
Pauline Paula Stilowsky and Seymour George Epstein, were Jewish and

749
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:45.360
had married in nineteen fifty two, shortly I know, shortly

750
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:47.960
before his birth. Pauline worked as a school aid and

751
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.440
as a homemaker. Seymour worked for the New York City

752
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:53.519
Department of Parks and Recreation as a groundskeeper and gardner.

753
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:57.119
In the mid nineteen eighties, Epstein traveled multiple times between

754
00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.000
the United States, Europe, and the Middle East. While in London,

755
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:04.039
and Epstein met Stephen Hoffberg Hoffenberg they had been introduced

756
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.480
through Douglas Lease, a defense contractor, and John Mitchell, the

757
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:11.159
former US Attorney General. An anonymous source met with Epstein

758
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:14.320
and Lese as early as nineteen eighty one. Epstein also

759
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:16.639
stated to some people that at that time he was

760
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:26.360
an intelligent agent. Epstein associated Hoffenburg right all before polyclass.

761
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:33.000
John Walsh Adam Walsh, should I say Epstein also stated

762
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:37.239
to some people, oh Epstein? Associate associate Hoffenberg in twenty

763
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.039
twenty alleged that Epstein was recruited in nineteen eighties by

764
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:43.320
Lease to work for British intelligence, and that Hoffenberg introduced

765
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:46.599
Epstein to Robert Maxwell during the ninth.

766
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:50.000
John Mitchell he was attorney general. He was an attorney

767
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.519
general under Nixon, and he was the one in charge.

768
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:56.199
Of oh my god, the committee.

769
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:58.599
To re elected President and they called it creep So

770
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:01.519
that's are if that's a weird word.

771
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:06.000
Association. Then you got him introducing Epstein to people and whatnot.

772
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:08.119
To Agreeland Roland.

773
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:10.960
Do you just know that you did? You know that

774
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:12.480
John Walsh hated Nixon?

775
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:16.360
I did not know that most people did.

776
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:18.519
We go, now we know why.

777
00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:19.559
A lot of people hated Nixon.

778
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:23.000
Well, he made this, He made this claim in in

779
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:27.039
the case file and speaking to UH investigators. Though, so

780
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:30.159
why would you say that, like who cares you hate him?

781
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:33.239
Why are you telling people this in the interview? Why

782
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:35.679
are you saying this to people in the interview, like

783
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:36.639
about your child?

784
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:37.280
Like what?

785
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:42.199
Yeah? One part I think Mitchell went to jail during

786
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:43.239
the Watergate scandal.

787
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.159
Prison, I think, but do you want to club a

788
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:48.760
fan and got out quickly of course, probably on release.

789
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:54.320
And that's where we had that news article Watergates. Uh

790
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:57.199
about you remember we read that? You read that?

791
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.639
Oh yeah, oh yeah, ways back yeah, no, I mean,

792
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.800
honestly speaking, we know that the group in entirety was

793
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:09.000
all up and involved in that. So let me get

794
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:11.360
back here. An anonymous source met with Epstein and Lisa

795
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:13.960
as early as nineteen eighty one. Epstein also stated, to

796
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:16.920
some people, think okay, but during the nineteen eighties, Epstein

797
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:20.280
possessed an Austrian passport that had his photo but with

798
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.360
a false name. So this is what I suspect Jack

799
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:26.039
was into and why he had so many different names.

800
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.400
The passport showed his place of residence in Saudi Arabia.

801
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:33.920
Very interesting. In twenty seventeen, a former senior White House

802
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:37.320
official reported that Alexander Acosta, the US Attorney for the

803
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.360
Southern District of Florida who had handled Epstein's criminal case

804
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:43.320
at the end of the George W. Bush administration, had

805
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:47.360
stated to interviewers of President Donald Trump's first transition team,

806
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:50.599
I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave

807
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:54.000
it alone, and that Epstein was above his pay grade.

808
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:59.880
That's an interesting statement during the edit.

809
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:03.199
It just another reason to suspect that it was not

810
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:04.800
suicide that killed him.

811
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:08.760
They're going to warn him dead.

812
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:12.400
Yep he knows too much. During this period, one of

813
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:17.039
Epstein's client was a Saudi Arabian businessman, Adnan Kashagi, and

814
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:21.840
Kashagi came up before all the time who was the

815
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:25.800
middleman transferring American weapons from Israel to Iran as part

816
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:29.000
of the Iran Contra affair in the nineteen eighties. Cashagi

817
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:31.760
had been introduced to him by Lease, and Kashagi was

818
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:37.199
one of several defense contractors that he knew who with Richard.

819
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.639
Se Cord and Aline North and all those guys.

820
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:43.920
Well the booze ball and buys his boat from him

821
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:44.920
right right.

822
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:49.480
It's like did you It makes you wonder, like did

823
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.760
you know what was going on? And tried to buy

824
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:55.119
that boat so we could get evidence on him.

825
00:46:55.039 --> 00:47:05.840
Well or later on it was it was Robert Xwell's boat. No,

826
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:11.159
I thought, I thought that was somebody's wife one of

827
00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:16.199
the people affiliated with Epstein whose wife ex wife had

828
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:22.400
purchased the Lady gislaying Robert Maxwell's boat. Yeah that's a

829
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:26.119
different boat, right, So, yeah, that's a different boat. But

830
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:28.840
it's all within and and And the thing is is

831
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:30.960
that a lot of people would claim that Epstein might

832
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:34.920
possibly because he had cameras all over his joints, that

833
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:39.000
they that he was attempting to get blackmail information on people,

834
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:43.119
kind of like you know, the cabal were to keep

835
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.239
the most sensitive information so that we can control you

836
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:48.519
in whatever manner we need to, but at one point,

837
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:51.920
if you become a liability, then you have to be

838
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:54.440
taken care of. And maybe everybody was buying up all

839
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:57.639
these different things of his thinking that somewhere this information

840
00:47:57.679 --> 00:47:59.760
would have been stored or kept and if they did

841
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:01.559
find that it's gone, we're never going to see it,

842
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:03.840
or they're going to hold it for their own control

843
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:05.559
over these high powered people.

844
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:10.239
The CIA, the mafia, and the FBI did the same thing, right.

845
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:16.320
So Tower's Financial Corporation was actually one of Epstein's businesses.

846
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:20.280
Stephen Hoffenberg hired Epstein in nineteen eighty seven as a

847
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:24.159
consultant for Tower's Financial Corporation, unaffiliated with the company of

848
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:26.719
the same name founded in nineteen ninety eight and acquired

849
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:30.079
by Old National Bank Corps, a collection agency that bought

850
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.199
debts people owed to hospitals, banks, and phone companies. Hoffenberg

851
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:40.960
set Epstein up in offices let's see, I just lost

852
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:47.639
my yeah in offices in Villard Houses in Manhattan, and

853
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:49.719
paid him up to twenty five thousand per month for

854
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:53.800
his consulting work. Hoffenberg and Epstein then refashioned themselves as

855
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:57.280
corporate raiders, using Tower Financial as their rating vessel. One

856
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:00.800
of Epstein's first assignments for Hoffenberg was to imple implement

857
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:03.639
what turned out to be an unsuccessful bid to take

858
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:06.920
over Pan American World Airways in nineteen eighty seven. A

859
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:09.599
similar unsuccessful bid in nineteen eighty eight was made to

860
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:12.880
take over every air freight corp. During this period, Hoffenberg

861
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:16.280
and Epstein were closely together and traveled everywhere in Haffenberg's

862
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:19.400
private jet. Now, those in the mafia, those in the mob,

863
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:22.719
those in the syndicates, they need a way to transport

864
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:26.159
their goods, whether it be humans or drugs or guns.

865
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:29.159
So here they are trying to take new hostel takeovers

866
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:32.039
of airlines, which I'm assuming that at some point they

867
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:38.000
either did or just continued to use private jets or yeah,

868
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:39.840
and it's going to get even more discussion by the

869
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:42.880
time we get into the Lolita Express, because we're going

870
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:45.639
to find out next week, you guys, that Epstein was

871
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:48.320
part of the two thousand and eight crash that cost

872
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:51.800
millions of Americans their four on one k's, their stocks,

873
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:56.119
their retirements there and millions of Americans their homes in

874
00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:58.880
that little debacle that they used to blow up the

875
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:01.920
market and then tear it down, and I think was

876
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:06.199
all to reap the rewards of not only the debt consolidation.

877
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:08.840
We see that he has this debt consolidation business here,

878
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:12.480
but one of my theories was that they would foreclothes

879
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:15.800
on these individuals' houses, they'd sell the debt to another company,

880
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:17.840
they'd get the insurance, and then they'd throw it on

881
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:21.360
the steps of the courthouse in order for it to

882
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:24.320
be sold at auction for a very low cost. They

883
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:27.199
were winning three times over. But we are at the end.

884
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:29.519
I've actually ran over at this point. You guys will

885
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:31.679
climb into that next week. I want to thank you

886
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:34.360
both for being here. Everybody, have a wonderful weekend, and

887
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:35.559
we'll see you next Friday.

888
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:39.440
Soon all right, yes,