Jan. 9, 2026

Lawrence Klein False Suspect???

Lawrence Klein False Suspect???
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Provided with more evidence on the suspect Lawrence Klein aka Kaye, let’s look at the possibility of him being the Zodiac Killer. One might question why we are even looking at him when he bears no resemblance to the Zodiac Killer composite outlined by Officer Foulke of the SFPD? I read that there claims that Officer Foulke now states that Lawrence’s likeness was the closest to the person he seen that night in the Presidio. Is this a lie or a lie being told about him to continue to mislead?

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Good morning, True Seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.

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I'd like to welcome to the show today. Nolan del Campo,

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Good morning everybody. Good morning. Any exciting cases last week.

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No, Well, I finished the trial and I won. It

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was a domestic violence.

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So yeah for the wind.

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But there was no.

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Domestic violence on either side. It shouldn't have been in court,

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but consistent, I'm going to trial, so we took.

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To any one.

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Wow, that is insane.

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Family law trial that I broke even on. But then

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I had to do xparte because the chick didn't follow

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the coroner.

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It was she your client or the other person on

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the other side. Oh gotcha? Damn Well, I think our

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show is all about dictators, so that fits right, in Well.

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I had a couple of comments off of last week's show,

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which was Dennis Kaufman's video. Did you get a chance

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to watch that?

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Not yet, But I've seen parts of it before and

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we've gone over lots of it as well, and I

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met Dennis of.

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Course, right.

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But I didn't see the actual episode.

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Okay, I did see that YouTube kicked back that there.

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It was not going to be shown in some countries

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because there was copyright on the music that was on it. Now,

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I hardly believe that Dennis produced this thing and was

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able to get it produced without having rights to do so.

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I mean, will people literally produce a documentary or a

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video without that? Do you know? I have no idea, right,

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I don't know either either. There was a these.

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Yeah but sticks on the wall. It sticks.

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Evidently there were three songs on there, and they were

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stating that of course they're copyrighted, they're owned by the

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people who sang the songs. So I don't know if

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Denis had permission to use them or not, or how

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many people were actually able to view that. But I

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did have one person who was clearly able to view it,

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and they had a lot to say. I want to

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say it's at Trashy. That's the name trashleg Why would

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we want to name ourselves that? And maybe it's a

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spin off of Ashley Like, I don't know either way.

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This person says these handwritten ones we know weren't Zodiac

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according to Riverside PD. So I'm assuming what they're talking

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about is the Sherry Joe Bates and I would like

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to make a correction for this individual if they are

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back to watch the next episode, is that there is

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no according to Riverside PD, were not the Zodiac every instance,

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in every evidence. I mean even law enforcement from the

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San Francisco in Bay area joined Riverside to discuss the

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commonalities between the communications and the author and it was

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stated by the document examiners at that time that were

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working for the government. Now I know this is this

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is one of the quandaries that I have. I want

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to say that they're always giving an inconclusive or they're

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not really you know, doing their jobs, and then I

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want to say that, yes, they identified the handwritingess being

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one and the same. The upside here is that I'm

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not some layperson doing this podcast. I am a handwriting

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expert and this is what I do for a living,

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so I have viewed these letters. I have made the

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connection between the authors, and I do believe that the

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Sherry Joe Bates crime was committed by the Zodiac, And

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in recent years they've been trying to do whatever they

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can to bifurcate these cases and act as though they're

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not one and the same. And I think that that

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really is because they're just trying to keep the conspiracy

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from being seen by everybody, which is more people are

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involved in this than we really actually know.

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Let's welcome, even gray Smith and others. I think most

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of people know admit that the Charchobates and Riverside was

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part of the Zodiac, the persona of Zodiac, but it's

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still the same person or people.

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Well, you know what's interesting is at the bottom of

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the three notes and Sherry Joe Bates there is actually

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it looks like a number two or a Z at

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the bottom of it. So was he really only Zodiac

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come Zodiac era or was he this persona well before then.

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He news right, but it's the same version or people, good.

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Morning, good morning.

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I don't know what's going on.

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I couldn't.

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I got in like right when you came on and

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then it went and then like you froze. So I've

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restarted twice and finally got in.

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Well, thank you for being here.

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Yeah, and Lon says sometimes sometimes songs are not copyrighted

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at the time used, but can become copyrighted later on,

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So that could be a reason why Dennis was able

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to make the documentary. And then now it's being you know, caught,

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be right, cautioned. I guess if you will. So I

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know that you wanted me to watch something before today.

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I think you sent it to me last night. Was

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that another thing from nor Jasmine?

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No, it was actually Candice Owen's.

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And who is that.

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Girl?

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Y'all don't know who she is. I don't know who

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anybody is.

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Girl.

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I'm stuck in my own little research world over here.

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I'm living in the past.

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Well, I don't even know how you haven't even pondered

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upon her, because literally, like she's not only in the

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political movement, but she is also one of the number one,

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if not the number one, biggest podcaster you ever have seen.

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In your life.

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Like she has like three million followers, not really three million,

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but a million at least, and she is is huge

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right now, because of her following.

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This is huge for the things that she's talking.

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About because it all links together with what we are

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talking about in the whole network, in the whole web.

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So that's why I really was wanting you to watch it,

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because not only is she continuously every podcast she is

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putting things together, but she is making the connections that

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we are making.

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And so it's going to be a.

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Broader, a bigger, what much bigger audience than I've ever

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seen that are hearing this, and it's they're gonna be

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able to put that together and.

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Yeah, say that.

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Again, she's biting all our stuff.

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Well, you know, I made all of these connections as

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early as I want to say. I started, obviously in

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two thousand and nine identifying Jack Terrence as the author

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of the Zodiac Letters, but I really didn't completely put

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everything together until you know, all of these individuals, anonymous

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or not, came in and gave me other letters and

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other crimes across the United States, where I started to

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put everything together and see this group of view. So

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when I came into it, I honestly looked at the

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Zodiac like he was just a single person out there,

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you know, being a jerk killing people, taunting the police

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and and the media. Yeah, well that's what they wanted

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you to right right, well, and anybody, if anybody knows

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you don't you don't start by writing a three page

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letter right to law enforcement and to the media right

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out the gate, which is what he did when he

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took claim for the first two sets of killings. That's

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just that that's too long of a communication. You have

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baby steps, you know, And here he is not not

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doing it once, but twice and three times. So three

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seemed to be the magic number. Oh that's one of

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their favorite numbers, right, And.

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Like he wrote on the in the car, right.

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Well, and you have to be very great.

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Every single postcard and whatnot, every communication had clues in it,

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and the ciphers clues well.

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And I'm waiting for them to come back and tell

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us eventually at some point, because this is just it

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feels like the way it's going is that the Zodiac

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didn't write on Brian Hartnell's car. I'm waiting to hear

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this next. I heard there's no military connection in some

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of the latest documentaries I've heard. Oh, well, we'll get

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into folk and we've got a couple of false aspects

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were working on today. Let me keep myself on track,

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otherwise I'm going to lose myself. So basically, Candice Owens,

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what was her her? She was basically just outing everybody.

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So she's putting all of it together as far as

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the military involvement in the CIA, and the cartels and

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the mafia and big.

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Money people and how it does connect and how it

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also connects to the murder of Charlie Kirk.

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And yes, yes, I'm not ivocateated. I have children now because.

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Every town she connects something, I'm like, oh my god, yes,

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thank you for saying this out loud to all these people,

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because so many people are going to see what they are.

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Right now, like, and it's gonna explode. It's really gonna explode, y'all.

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Like I I'm just like biting my teeth every.

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Time to Charlie Kirk.

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Wasn't that kind of a marchman from that distance to

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hit a perfect shot And there's evidence that was a

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shoot shooter from closer range that actually killed Charlie Kirk.

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and it actually appears as though somebody standing within the

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group right next to him to the side and the

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way his body shifted was based on the bullet coming

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from a completely different angle than the angle that the

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shooter would have had access to.

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He was further than Oswald.

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And if he took a shot, if he took a

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sh anything, he shot it in the air. Just just

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know people would hear the shot well and way too.

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Let I did do some more. I did watch the

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other nor Jasmine video that you sent me. We're going

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to talk a bit about that as well. I'm gonna

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make it through these YouTube comments from this individual really quick.

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So we talked about Riverside PD. I'm sorry if people

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are out there trying to, you know, assert that this

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is not connected. You need to go back. You need

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to re research, You need to open up the foy

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of files. You need to take a look at the

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millions of times that they said that this was a

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connected crime. Now, trash Lee went on to say, I

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don't understand the story at all. The step dad went

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to the store and picked up a gun. Did he

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point it at the other people or say something. I

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don't understand why picking it up is such a big deal. Well, girl,

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you need to go back, and I'm assuming this is

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a girl. It could be a boy. I have no idea,

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but you need to go back to the very beginning

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of this presentation and start with video number one, and

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you will understand why Jack picking up a gun is

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so menacing. And basically I laid out for that person

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three different scenarios that are just absolutely scary, at least

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from my point of view as a human being, that

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Jack would be menacing with anything, including an assault with

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a deadly weapon against his own family. She went on

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to say March nineteen sixty nine Zodiac didn't exist yet

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because the letters came after Blue Rock Springs in late

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July nineteen sixty nine, and there were no letters after

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Lake Herman Road. WHOA This person is seriously stunted in

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the research of the Zodiac case. If they believe that

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there were no letters after Lake Herman Road, What the hell?

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I don't even know who's talking to me right now,

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and I want to find I want to find that

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this person is probably just buying up my time and

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keeping me busy. It says the name came in August

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nineteen sixty nine. Well, the name may have came in August,

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and that's when it was produced. And they say that

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he picked it himself. He actually if the Zodiac picked

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out his name himself and it wasn't a moniker given

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to him by the media, then I would even more

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so instill that Sherry Joe Bates was a part of it,

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because we do see what appears to be a Z

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at the bottom of each one of these letters before

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he actually called himself the Zodiac. So I think somebody

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needs to do a little more research before they hop

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on my YouTube channel and try to tell me what's

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going on in this case.

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And we know that Arthur Lee Allen is not Zodiac,

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but we do know that Jack was acquainted with Arthur

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Lee Allen, and Arthur Lee Allen ties to Riverside.

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You know, sometimes I wonder if he didn't make those

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acquaintances in order to form the patsy, because then he

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could learn enough about that.

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Yeah, yeah, miss Handlers sent him down there. I don't

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know what the deal was, but he was involved.

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And I think that if Arthur Lee Allen had a handler,

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if he was part of any of this, he would

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have screamed that out loud when he was protesting his innocence.

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If he was part of some group or you know,

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was part of anything. I think he like.

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A suspect, but he knows. No.

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He had a heart attack over this stuff pretty much.

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I know his life was turned upside down. He he

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died with a letter, a typewritten letter in his hand

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saying I am not the ziliac like. I don't think

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he liked.

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It at all.

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Okay, the intrigue, right right, So what I'm going to

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read here to you guys now is something from Project

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Mocking Mockingbird. Yeah, Project Mockingbird. So and it really is

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going to kind of reinstill some of the things that

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we're talking about. When it sounds so crazy that I'm

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blaming the media for involvement, I'm blaming mob, I'm blaming syndicates,

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I'm blaming politicians, I'm blaming everything. And quite frankly, as

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Candice Owens is probably letting everybody know, is that UH

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on one hand does not work without the other. So

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Bob doesn't exist without the CIA. The CIA does not

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exist without the politicians. The politicians do not exist without

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the media. Like all of these people have to be

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in play. We talked about that article from the mayor

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from New York who was supposedly good and honest, but

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then was found to be very Yeah, and then was

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found to be so deep into evil, nefarious stuff and

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knowing some of the worst people in this world that

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they literally had to make him an ambassador of Mexico

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to keep him from coming under an indictment. In so

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you make him a diplomat, right, and then they have

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diplomatic community. Nobody can touch you. You can't be convicted for anything.

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So these are the kind of things that oh each other.

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That's why they dispreted because he was drawing too much

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into it.

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Yeah, the cops that corrupt.

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The corrupt.

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There's a lot of corruption related to these murders and coles.

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Well, and right now a lot of these other major

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podcasters and media outlets are, even the right winging ones

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are literally calling out Cannie and calling her crazy and

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that she has lost her mind and all, okay, So

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that's when you know you're on the target.

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with Jesse Ventura and Joe Rogan and some of these people,

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I think that they are specifically paid for for this.

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We're going to talk about what they will do to

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create a narrative in our mind. So it looks like

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they're on our side because they're outing these individuals, but

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then there's a a certain front that is attempting to

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make them look crazy and insane, and I think that

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the whole entire process is really just to kind of

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satiate those that obviously something's going on with our government

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and don't really have any resources or outlet for that information,

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so they seek that information from these individuals. I've reached

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out to these people and none of them have taken

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me up on discussing this case with me, And that

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tells me volumes because if they were truly somebody to

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believed that these things were going on, they would entertain

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something like this and not just push it underneath the ruck.

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So nor Jasmine is somebody that Lindsay has introduced me

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to basically through her podcast, and so I watched the

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podcast this last week, and this is some of the stuff.

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So Project Mockingbird was basically a like an MK Ultra program,

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only this one was set against the United States. So

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when we talk about things like Hurst making the comments

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that you get me the pictures, I'll get you your war, right.

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So he's saying make stuff up, yellow journalism, let's just

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create what we need to create and I'll get you

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your war. So I want you guys to pay attention to.

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And another thing I don't really quite understand is that

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how how nor Jasmine comes across all of these unredacted documents.

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I've never seen such clean peer documents where you could

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read everything and here we go. So basically, they were

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looking this is during the Cuban time. They were looking

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to create the war between the US and Cuba, and

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this is how they stated they would do it. So

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these are classified Foy files, and this is the US

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government making these mentions. So it says a series of

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well coordinated incidences will be planned to take place in

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and around Guantanamo to give genuine appearance of being done

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by hostile Cuban forces. Keep that in mind, they're going

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to create this scenario. So to me, this is a

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Charlie Kirk, this is a school shooting. This is all

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these antagonistic situations, just like the Zodiac. You guys are

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going to hear the You're gonna hear the actual louprint

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for how they create this chaos and these antagonistic situations,

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even to the point where they create things like black

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lives matter. They create these things in order to keep

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us in a state of unstableness, if you will. So

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let's go down the list of what they're willing to do. Oh,

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you're gonna get Oh you nailed it. Hold on, we're

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gonna get there.

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What did y'all?

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Let's say I missed it?

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Hold on, hold.

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On, Nolan, Nolan, Nolan. Let's not let's not jump above me. Yeah, okay.

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So this is what they're gonna do. This is their

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plan for creating the Cuban war. So incidents to establish

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a credible attack, not in chronological order. Number one, start rumors,

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many use clandestine radio number two. Land friendly Cubans in

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uniform over the fence. So these are our friends. These

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are friendly Cubans that we're gonna land over the fence

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to stay and attack on the base. To make it

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look like these friendlies are looking to attack us. Capture

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Cuban friendly saboteurs inside the base. Start riots near the

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base main gate. Friendly Cubans, blow up ammunition inside the base,

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start fires, burn aircraft on the air base, sabotage log

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mortar shells from outside of the base into the base.

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Some damage two installations, capture, assault, teams approaching from the

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sea or vicinity of Guantanamo City, capture militia group which

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storms the base, sabotage ship in the harbor, large fires

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naphthaline sink ship near harbor entrance, conduct funerals for mock victims.

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Mock victims, you guys.

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Yes, I know.

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I can't even You know, when people said things like, oh,

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the school shooting was fake, and these people went on

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they were just actors, and then they went on to

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live their lives later somewhere else. They didn't really die,

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I thought, that's just too much for my mind. You

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can see, we watch these people be shot, or we

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watched them you know, wheeled out in a journey. They

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literally have a recipe for this, and see b. United

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States would respond by executing offensive operations to secure water

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and power supplies, destroying artillery and mortar emplacements which threatn

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the base, Commence large scale United States military operations. A

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remember the main haha they visit Number three is a

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remember the main incident could be arranged in several forms

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and A we could blow up a US ship in

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Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba. This is our US government,

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you guys, right, So now Maine. I had to look

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that up. Obviously. When I get my claws into something, Nolan,

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you know me, I'm going to take it further. I'm like,

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what the heck is? Remember Maine? Right? Maine was the

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United States Navy ship that sank in Havana Harbor on

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fifteenth of February eighteen ninety eight, contributing to the outbreak

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of the Spanish American War in April. US newspapers, engaging

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in yellow journalism to boost circulation, claimed that the Spanish

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were responsible for the ship's destruction. The phrase remember the Main,

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to hell with Spain became a rally and cry for action.

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Although the Main explosion was not a direct cause, it

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served as a catalyst that accelerated the events leading up

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to the war. Maine was sent to Havana Harbor to

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protect US interest during the Cuban War of Independence. She

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exploded and sank on the evening of fifteenth of February

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eighteen ninety eight, killing two hundred and sixty eight sailors

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or three quarters of her crew. In eighteen ninety eight,

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a US Navy Board of Inquiry ruled that the ship

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had been sunk by an external explosion from a mine. However,

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some US Navy officers disagreed with the board, suggesting that

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the ship's magazines had been ignited by a spontaneous fire

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and a coal bunker. The coal used in Maine was

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by Tuminus, which is known for releasing fire damp, a

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mixture of gases composed primarily a flammable methane that is

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prone to spontaneous explosions. An investigation by Admiral Hyman Rickover

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in nineteen seventy four agreed with the coal fire hypothesis,

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penning a nineteen seventy six monograph that argued for this conclusion.

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The cause of her sinking remains a subject of debate.

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So this is what they create, right the debates. Aren't

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we here now debating what all of this is about.

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It is like.

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That in Vietnam when they had a false attack on

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the United States ship to escalate.

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The war exactly exactly.

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The dreame was, Yeah, that's what.

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Our government is doing. They're creating these things. This is

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a big boys toy here, guys. Not many of us

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could achieve this. But here we come to section B.

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We could blow up a drone unmanned vessel anywhere in

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the que In Waters.

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They had drones back then.

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Yes, exactly. I know when I try to tell people

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that these things are staged, or these things are occurring,

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or technology is fifty years in advance. This is another

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huge key point that I've shown through these presentations, amongst

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many other things, that these things existed well before our knowledge.

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Now when is it really?

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Yeah?

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No, no, no, eighteen eighteen ninety eight was Maine Cuban?

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This is the Cuban event. Which I want to say,

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is what early sixties? When is when is Cuba?

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Oh you mean they have pigs?

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Well, that's the Cuban rar right, So I'm assuming.

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That the Spanish American War was eight.

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I'm not talking about the Spanish America. I'm not talking

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about the Spanish American War. The youth. The drones came

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in the Cuban event. I'm back to the Cuban event now.

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So really, no, Maine was not a hu It was

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a Spanish war.

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It went over Cuba.

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I didn't see anything mentioned about Cuba in here.

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Yes, okay, ei know what you look forward to Gronmo,

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which is a whole different thing.

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That's a United States base in Cuba.

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Correct, Okay, much years later Herbert, Okay, well, I didn't

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understand that the main was part of a Cuban war.

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That's eighteen ninety eight. I'm here in the current.

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They called it the Spanish American War because Spain was

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in control of Cuba at the time, wanted to take

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it away from Cuba.

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So they've been they've been doing this to Cuba then

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for a very long time, because that's aged.

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Yeah, there was a polling forever since eighteen ninety eight.

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Okay, but what is the more recent Cuban war.

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We all evolution in nineteen sixty Yeah.

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The sixties, I was saying in the sixties. So as

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early as the sixties, this is when this Project Mockingbird

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has taken place. Now he rode again.

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Even after the Cuban Revolution of Castro and all that

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and Jacobar. Uh, the United States has always had a

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military base in Cuba.

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To this day, we still have that's the United States

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military base in Cuba. We have no Cuba.

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I feel that Hurst Hurst's I feel like if I

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went back to look at the information where Hearst said,

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if you get me the pictures, I'll get you your war.

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He was talking about Cuba. So there was this all

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in from the media, from the politicians, from everybody to

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00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:41.599
create this war, which makes the nine to eleven events

470
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:44.680
even that much more stronger in my mind that this

471
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:48.400
was something that was devised and planned by our own government.

472
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:52.759
It goes on to say, we could arrange to cause

473
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.160
such incident in the vicinity of Havana or Santiago as

474
00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:59.200
a spectacular result of Cuban attack from the air or

475
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:02.400
seat or boat. The presence of Cuban planes or ships

476
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:05.160
merely investigating the event of the vessel could be fairly

477
00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:09.200
compelling evidence that the ship would add credibility, especially to

478
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:12.480
those people that might have heard the blasts or have

479
00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:15.799
seen the fire. The US could follow up with an

480
00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:20.000
air sea rescue operation covered by US fighters to evacuate

481
00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:25.119
remaining members of the non existent crew. Casualty lists in

482
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:29.200
US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.

483
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:33.759
Casualty lists. They're going to create a casualty list. This

484
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:39.440
is school shootings. One on one, let's see. We could

485
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:43.839
develop a communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area area,

486
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:47.880
in other Florida cities, and even in Washington. The terror

487
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:52.000
campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in

488
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.200
the United States. We could sink a boatload of Cubans

489
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:59.440
en route to Florida, reel or stimulated in parentheses. We

490
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.400
could foster attempts on lives of Cuban refugees in the

491
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:05.720
United States, even to the extent of wounding in instances

492
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:09.680
to be widely publicized, exploding a few plastic bombs and

493
00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:13.039
carefully chosen spots. The arrest of Cuban agents and the

494
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:16.920
release of prepared documents substantiating Cuban involvement also would be

495
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:20.480
helpful in projecting the idea of an irresponsible government. So

496
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:23.359
now they're creating documents, which I feel like that's what

497
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:27.640
we're in with on the Zodiac right, creating these documents

498
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:32.000
that makes it look like our law enforcement and so

499
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:33.480
forth is incompetent.

500
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:35.319
Yeah.

501
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:40.279
Number five, Cuban based Castro supported filibuster could be simulated

502
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:43.319
against a neighboring Caribbean nation. In the vein of the

503
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:47.319
fourteenth of June invasion of the Dominican Republic, we know

504
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:55.640
that Castro is backing subversive efforts clandestinely against Haiti, Dominican Republic, Guatemala,

505
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:59.640
and Nicaragua. At present and possible others. These efforts can

506
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.759
be mad to fight and additional ones contrived for exposure.

507
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.680
For example, advantage can be taken of the sensitivity of

508
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:10.880
the Dominican Air Force to intrusions within their national airspace.

509
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.039
Cuban B twenty six or C forty six type aircraft

510
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:20.480
could make king burning raids at night. Soviet what is that?

511
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:29.279
Sovietniggs B one something B one something. Incendiaries could be found.

512
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:33.960
This could be coupled projecting the idea of an irresponsible government.

513
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:35.440
What did I miss there?

514
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:41.119
So they're trying to create a reason to invade Cuba, yes.

515
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:44.759
Yes, where they're trying to make it look like Cuban

516
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:48.200
and has attacked them yep, yeah, us in.

517
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:50.640
Order for it to be okay for me for US

518
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:51.599
to attack them.

519
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.640
Bingo, all right. So with Cuban messages to the communist

520
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:59.559
underground in the Dominican Republic and Cuban shipments of arms

521
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:03.319
which would be found or intercepted on the beach, use

522
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.079
of MiG type aircraft by US pilots could provide additional

523
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:11.440
provocation harassment of civil air attacks on surface shipping, and

524
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:15.079
destruction of US military drone aircraft by MiG type planes

525
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:19.200
would be useful as complementary actions, and F eighty six

526
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.480
properly painted would convince air passengers that they saw a

527
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:25.680
Cuban MiG, especially if the pilot of the transport were

528
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:29.880
to announce such facts. The primary drawback to this suggestion

529
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.039
appears to be the security risk inherent in obtaining or

530
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:37.160
modifying an aircraft. However, reasonable copies of the MEG could

531
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.000
be produced from US resources in about three months. Oh

532
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:43.279
my god, you guys, this makes me physically sick to

533
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:44.000
my stomach.

534
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.960
So fun all companies we ended up invading.

535
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.000
Exactly, and we want their resources. That's why we're there.

536
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:56.680
It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate

537
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:59.720
convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down

538
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:02.759
a harder civil airliner en route from the United States

539
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:12.400
to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama, or Venezuela. The destination Venezuela, right,

540
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:16.880
the destination would be chosen only to cause Now, where

541
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.279
they just stole Where did they just steal the president

542
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:25.200
from Venezuela. Okay, so this is an ongoing beef. This

543
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:29.680
is the hatfield of McCoys between US and Venezuela.

544
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:32.359
Doctrine. It's been around since the.

545
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:36.799
Yeah, the destination would be chosen.

546
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:40.720
Is under our We control it, and we're not going

547
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:43.200
to let anyone do what they want to do. We're

548
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:45.279
going to make sure they do what we want them

549
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:45.759
to do.

550
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:48.519
And we're going to cause and create whatever it is

551
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:50.160
that we want to play with, evidently and.

552
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:52.880
Take their natural resources exactly.

553
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.319
The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight

554
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.559
plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a

555
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:02.279
group of college students off on a holiday, or any

556
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:05.400
grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering

557
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:09.720
a non scheduled flight. A an aircraft at Egglin Air

558
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.400
Force Base would be painted and numbered as an exact

559
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:16.039
duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA

560
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:21.160
proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time,

561
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.920
the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft

562
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:28.079
and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded

563
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:33.039
under carefully prepared aliases, all of them. The actual registered

564
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:34.519
aircraft would be converted to.

565
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:40.400
A drone, right wild. Yeah, so this.

566
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:46.200
Is what's that say that again?

567
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:51.000
It's a proposal, So wood Wood, it was plans basically,

568
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:56.640
maybe we don't know, but yeah, that sounds like it

569
00:32:56.680 --> 00:33:00.119
was the way it's worded, like a proposal for action and.

570
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:03.759
This information.

571
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:06.319
And we know that we went to war, and we

572
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:11.960
know that we you know, they successfully implemented this particular project,

573
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:15.079
which was Project Mockingbird. And I want to.

574
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.119
Say something real quick so everybody.

575
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:18.839
Can like kind of get a whole like a whole

576
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:22.559
view before you finish. So like as soon as I

577
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:26.680
like got to the bottom of this document after I've

578
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:28.400
I had to read it just like you are reading

579
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:31.519
it now, after I watched her discuss it, and it

580
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:34.839
was like almost like my brain was like in a movie,

581
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:38.440
and it was like all these things kept like coming back,

582
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:39.960
like all these memories of like.

583
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:41.720
This case in this case, in this case, in.

584
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:46.119
This scenario and this uh you know, disaster and this

585
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:48.240
and that, and it's like all of it like you know,

586
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:50.759
like in a movie when you see it all like flashback.

587
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:52.759
And that was like flashing through my head and I'm like,

588
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:57.119
so now it all like literally makes you question everything.

589
00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:59.319
Well, and this is why I don't watch the news

590
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.319
and I don't watch commercials and all of these things.

591
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:05.559
The reality is is I had a girlfriend that went

592
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:10.079
on to intern at NASA. Very smart, cookie, but book smart,

593
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.199
not not street smart. And I had mentioned to her

594
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.199
that I felt that a majority of our movies and

595
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:22.239
things are used to set a desensiti desensitization process against us,

596
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.880
to give us little bits and pieces of things that

597
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:27.760
are already occurring, so that when they actually come out

598
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.960
for the public to view, we've had a little taste

599
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.320
of it. It isn't a shock right kind of things

600
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:35.800
like the Jetsons or Star Trek where you are talking

601
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:38.159
to somebody on a video screen. She said, no, no,

602
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:41.320
that's not true. Maybe they made it for entertainment value

603
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:44.119
and then people turned around and tried to actually build it,

604
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.599
and that's the way it came about. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

605
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:50.719
No, no, Say who she worked for again?

606
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:59.039
In for NASA, she was going to Davis. Well, no, no, no,

607
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:03.039
she was just the student interns. He was a student

608
00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:07.000
at UC Davis interning doing her internship at NASA, And

609
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:11.360
we have this conversation before she even did the internship.

610
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:13.960
But I tried to express to her that the movies

611
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.880
and theater try to set a precedence ahead of time

612
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:20.159
so that it's not so shocking when these things occur.

613
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:22.840
So now we talk about the drone, right when the

614
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:26.480
drone came out, We've been seeing visions of this through

615
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:29.400
media and through TV for quite some time before it

616
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.960
became a reality and was put in any of our hands.

617
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:34.519
And now we can see that the drone existed at

618
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:38.960
a minimum in the sixties, which it probably before that,

619
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:41.840
in order for them to have used it efficiently in

620
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:46.119
the sixties. So yes, I think that that's their way.

621
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:49.440
And some of the things that I robot right talking

622
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:53.320
about AI and robot I just heard that. I think

623
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:56.679
it's China that actually has robot dogs on their borders.

624
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:01.199
Oh yes, I've heard that that's true.

625
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.159
Well, but we have a we had a movie that

626
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:07.360
came out showing a robot dog, right like, So, all

627
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.360
I say it is is that the things that were

628
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:12.119
being shown in the media is not somebody coming up

629
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.039
with a bright idea. It is somebody who already knows

630
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:17.960
and is being fed So the media and Holly Weird

631
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.360
and the high up you know, elite in this area,

632
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:23.159
are being fed with this information in order to make

633
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:26.119
a movie off of it where they still make more money. Again,

634
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:28.679
one hand doesn't exist without the other go ahead and

635
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:29.440
no one exactly.

636
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:33.440
Yeah, I just saw like the second or third twilights

637
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:36.599
of an episode and they have a human robot in

638
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:38.400
black early sixties.

639
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:42.119
It's crazy. It was just last night on cable.

640
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.920
Well, not want to go back and watch even old

641
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:47.840
movies to see what we're talking about.

642
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.639
That's what I That's where I get a majority of

643
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.519
my information is now hopping back to the older films,

644
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:55.840
just like it was a nineteen I want to say

645
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:58.159
it was a nineteen eighty four or eighty nine outbreak

646
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:04.519
movie with Dustin Hofman and they'd gone into the hospital room.

647
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:17.000
But well, I watched it obviously after the outbreak of COVID,

648
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:20.480
and so to hear them go into the emergency room

649
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.960
and discuss the fact that fifty four percent of Americans

650
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.840
were viral resistant that had particular blood types, I then

651
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.360
was like, what could that even possibly be true? I

652
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:31.599
would have thought any other day that that was just

653
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:34.239
set for entertainment, But when I actually did the research,

654
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:36.119
it did turn out to be true. Twenty three and

655
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:39.719
meters DNA had done a study on blood types and

656
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:43.000
those that were either asymptomatic or viral resistant to the

657
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.599
COVID strain, so it was obviously genetically engineered for those

658
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:51.320
with a blood type, and probably they were more susceptible

659
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:55.079
to sicknesses and illnesses, and it be engaged towards that

660
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:58.119
I think was kind of aimed at them. But it

661
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:00.880
was interesting to see that we had movie about an

662
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:03.880
outbreak and that's where they that's where that information came

663
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:06.639
out of which I would never have known otherwise anywhere

664
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:08.559
else true and it was true.

665
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:11.960
Well, and now also people, I recommend people to go

666
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:14.639
but this is kind of like kind of funny, but

667
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:18.719
I'm being dead serious to go back and watch many

668
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:25.800
seasons of The Simpsons, because the Simpsons predict the pritically everything.

669
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:29.400
Everything they are. They are nostrodomous by any means. They

670
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:32.360
have inside information like John Mark car did, like the

671
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:35.480
Zodiac did. So sometimes when when people say that they

672
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:39.880
felt the Zodiac was taking credit for other crimes, they

673
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:41.920
may very well be right. If he is the author

674
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:45.960
for this group, then his job is to confuse the

675
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:48.519
evidence by adding a writing to it that may not

676
00:38:48.920 --> 00:38:51.599
match the fingerprints or the DNA involved in the crime,

677
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:55.199
so that it confuses. Yeah, and if he was taking

678
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:58.719
credit for crimes he didn't commit. Then that actually solidifies

679
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.679
the idea that there is a group involvement here, because

680
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:04.639
how would he have this inside information like John Marshar

681
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:08.199
to write these letters unless he's being fedic from somewhere else,

682
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:10.840
which brings me to my next tangent.

683
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:14.880
Anyway, I look at it face.

684
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:20.039
This is Lawrence Kane. So I was I was hit

685
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:26.280
up by Christina Clock he is, he is, I think

686
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:31.519
we'll go We'll go through it. But Christina Kloe actually

687
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.239
works with Berkowitz in the Son of Sam Murders, so

688
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:38.079
she has engaged me in regards to some handwriting that

689
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:40.880
I'm doing for her. Uh, And that is whether or

690
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:45.000
not he actively wrote all of the letters she had

691
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:49.199
indicated that the FBI stated that it was inconclusive as

692
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.559
to whether or not Berkowitz wrote the letters. Now we

693
00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:54.280
got to hear what two weeks ago my own mentor

694
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.719
and teachers say that she felt that anybody coming out

695
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.559
of government or law enforcement into their own private practice

696
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:04.199
would readily give an inconclusive instead of actually making an

697
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:08.039
identification or exclusion of somebody. So I'm a little bothered

698
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:10.599
that the FBI came back with it was inconclusive as

699
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:12.880
to whether or not he wrote those letters, because I

700
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:16.679
think that they would want to have solidified that along

701
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:19.320
with I mean, obviously he's busted with the gun. Okay,

702
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.599
that's that's a dead giveaway, but these letters as well

703
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:24.920
would indicate and I think they came back with an

704
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:27.880
inconclusive because there's a possibility that these letters were not

705
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:32.920
written by one person. When I look at them with that, very.

706
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:35.599
Journals in his apartment, just like with her hands are

707
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:39.960
in that may have been written under hypnosis or written

708
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:40.840
by someone else.

709
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:46.199
Well, and see those would all be in. Those would

710
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:48.679
all be interesting journals to see if I can get

711
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:50.360
my hands on them. I have to work with her.

712
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.840
I got the letters that are in question, I now

713
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:56.159
need to get handwriting samples of Berkowitz from it. But

714
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:58.440
when she reached out to me, she had an interest

715
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:02.039
in talking to Sandy Beck. She believed that Lawrence Kane

716
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:05.039
was a great shoe in for the zodiac, which tells

717
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:07.800
me again what's available on the internet for people to

718
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:10.920
do research. Because she really feels like Lawrence Kane was

719
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:13.159
the Zodiac. And I tried to explain to her, so

720
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:15.280
first off, he's not even a match for the composite.

721
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.079
There's just no way. Second off, he looks a little

722
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:21.639
light in the butt as far as I'm concerned. At

723
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:24.719
five ten, one hundred and fifty five pounds, that man's kea.

724
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:30.440
I know, well it says five eight. Where'd you see

725
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:32.280
five nine on.

726
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:34.920
The screen right there? His hair's five to nine, so

727
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:35.920
he's probably five eight.

728
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:38.920
Yeah, Oh wow, I guess I didn't. So why did

729
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:40.840
they list him as five to ten? Look at that?

730
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:44.800
So here's in consistencies. No, I'm glad you pointed that out,

731
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:51.360
because look at the inconsistency. So, yeah, his hair's five nine. Wow,

732
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.320
maybe five to eight and a half. And then literally

733
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:56.480
right next to it, they put that he's five ten

734
00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:00.639
because they're trying to fit this square out. They're trying

735
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.440
to fix in a round hole. That was a good

736
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:06.880
pick up, Nolan. I don't I did not pay attention

737
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:08.519
to that, but I did feel that one hundred and

738
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:10.840
fifty five pounds he does not have that potbelly that

739
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:11.360
we're looking at.

740
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:14.280
No, No, that's way too I mean.

741
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:16.519
Not even the shoulders. I feel like he wouldn't have.

742
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:22.639
That. I skipped across because Nolan and I had both

743
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:27.119
watched do you watch The cover Up? Right? You were saying, Nolan,

744
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:31.400
which coverup was that It's called cover Up and it

745
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:36.480
was a Netflix docuseries. In regards to the investigative journalist,

746
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:38.280
that was.

747
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:41.159
Yeah, yeah.

748
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:44.960
So basically he's there telling everybody how he has all

749
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:46.920
of this great information and much of it if he

750
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:48.920
was to release he could be killed for he has

751
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:51.280
lots of high official names and all this stuff. But

752
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:55.239
his stories kept getting squashed by by the media because

753
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:57.119
they didn't want the story told. But this is no

754
00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:00.599
less than what we see the media control for us

755
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:03.119
now and today, and what we saw back there in Guantanmo.

756
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:06.840
Then the the other one I watched was the American Conspiracies,

757
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.639
the Octopus Murders. Did you watch that one?

758
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:13.840
I did? Yes, that was amazing, amazing.

759
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:17.599
The biggest thing that I took away from the Octopus Murders,

760
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:20.119
which was something I never thought of all the research

761
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:22.559
I've done, I'd never really skipped across anywhere that I

762
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:26.719
felt badly about Ronald Reagan until the Octopus Murders. And

763
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:31.960
then it indicated that we had forty hostages that were

764
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:36.440
in some country, was it Iraq, Iran, Iran? So we

765
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:40.519
had forty hostages that were in Iran and Carter was

766
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:43.920
trying to negotiate their release, but it was unsuccessful. Well,

767
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:52.079
behind Carter's back, Ronald Reagan's administration and George Blush went

768
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:56.000
and paid Iran what was it, forty.

769
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:59.239
Million bunch of money and give the missiles and there

770
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.519
were gave him missiles.

771
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:05.519
We trained, We trained a lot of their people too.

772
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:09.320
Told them to hold onto these hostages until after the

773
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:13.719
presidential election and basically not to release them. So we

774
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.679
pay them ahead of time to hold these hostages, but

775
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:20.239
not release them until after the presidential election. Because the

776
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:23.559
consensus was is that nobody would revote for Carter because

777
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:27.760
they didn't believe his handling of these hostages. We were

778
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.960
good when in reality he had no control. The reason

779
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:33.000
why they were fighting him on the release was because

780
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:36.960
they've been paid by Reagan right to hold him and

781
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:39.960
they were released the day of or the day after

782
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:44.840
he was inaugurate. Exactly. I'm like, I'm so disgusted now,

783
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:48.199
like the last president was, like I thought would have

784
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:50.599
been good. But hey, he's an actor from all right.

785
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:52.639
I was just about to say, let me tell you

786
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:53.559
a little secret.

787
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:57.719
He was after he was an actor before he was

788
00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:58.880
the president.

789
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:08.960
Right, hollyweird all day long like whatever. Anyways, now here's

790
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:10.880
what you're going to see and read on the internet.

791
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:13.960
In my research, while I'm looking at this stuff for Christina,

792
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:18.000
I start noticing that on sites like zodiacciphers dot com,

793
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:20.960
which I believe is ran by an ex FBI agent,

794
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:23.559
he has a lot of great information that's very clear

795
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:25.719
that I'm not sure how he could come across unless

796
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:28.559
he has an end. But he states on there that

797
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:32.079
Officer Folk, the one that gave the original composite drawing

798
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:36.039
of the zodiac from the presidio, stated after seeing Lawrence

799
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:39.239
Kane's picture that that's the closest resemblance to the man

800
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:41.840
I saw in the presidio than any other suspect I've

801
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:44.280
ever seen. What the fun.

802
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:48.840
That's great, It just looks nothing like the deposite nothing.

803
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:50.440
So why did you give that composite? If the guy

804
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:55.920
looks like this, I think it's dissemination. Once again, they

805
00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:59.199
are setting the precedents for people to be confused about

806
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.280
what's going on. He looks absolutely nothing like the compos

807
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:05.199
Here we go, here's the composits all day long, right

808
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:08.039
next to him, not in any instance. Does this man

809
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:10.559
at all look like these composites?

810
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:21.280
He looks like Ted Bundy.

811
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:22.199
That's terrible.

812
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:25.119
The worst thing about is they had him in Cussey

813
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:28.199
in Utah and the top land escaped looking forward and

814
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:29.039
killed more women.

815
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:31.840
He hopped out.

816
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:37.559
I think they let him out. The story about there.

817
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:41.760
Is and they and they let him out in Utah

818
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:43.840
the library.

819
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:49.039
In the room. I thought he was in the library

820
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:51.000
of the courtroom when he escaped.

821
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:52.480
Library or somewhere. But he.

822
00:46:54.440 --> 00:47:02.880
Yeah, well he's a killer, serial killer. You know what's

823
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:05.519
you know what's even crazier is that this picture up

824
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.519
here in the right hand corner, if you guys can see, it,

825
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.960
has labeled Lawrence Kane. That man does not look anything

826
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:12.039
like that man.

827
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:13.679
I think that's Allan, isn't it?

828
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:15.719
No Alan who.

829
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:17.559
You know?

830
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:18.519
The lady?

831
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:21.760
Yeah, the latest one that they'd say his idiot.

832
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:28.320
I don't know, that's not that's not Arthur Lee Allen

833
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:32.760
by any means, all right, well, it's not. No, it

834
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:35.840
certainly is not. And I don't know why it's listed

835
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:37.119
Lawrence Kane again.

836
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:37.719
Oops.

837
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:41.679
Whatever, they're not responsible for being correct. So I did

838
00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:46.639
actually find some of Larry Klein's information Now We can

839
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:50.679
see up here that he was initially named Larry Kane,

840
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:55.440
Lawrence Kane, Okay, sorry k A y E. Then he

841
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:58.880
changed his name to Larry Klein. We can say that

842
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:04.239
his handwriting is very rudimentary. It's not very honed in

843
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:07.920
or mature. It's it's a typical guy's handwriting, if you will.

844
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:09.880
They don't spend a lot of time practicing it, so

845
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:16.239
it's kind of rough and ready. Let's see here, rough

846
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:21.039
and ready. They also showed some certificate. See and now

847
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:23.920
when I look at this, see please print with name

848
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:27.760
or use typewriter employee's requests for changing records. So he's

849
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.800
changing his name on his employee record from Larry k

850
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:35.440
to Larry Klein. It looks like or vice versa. Either way,

851
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:37.800
I couldn't find anything in all of my research that

852
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.280
showed that he ever used kine. I think that again

853
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.880
is probably media induced. They have, you know, because they

854
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:46.639
think they found kine in the three forty, which is

855
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:50.320
really c A. E. N. I found that to match

856
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:53.599
more with HERD Kane than I found it to match

857
00:48:53.760 --> 00:49:00.320
Larry Kane. Especially. Yeah, so as I went through here,

858
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:02.679
there was not a lot to be able to determine

859
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.639
other than this man also had a frontal lobe injury

860
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.480
that caused his handwriting to be pretty lousy. So if

861
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:11.159
you look at this, he writes in all caps. He

862
00:49:11.239 --> 00:49:14.840
does not really use any lowercase letters. I think that

863
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:19.079
we would have seen a lot more droppings of capital letters.

864
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:21.800
But look look out off kilter and back and forth.

865
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:24.000
This is letters.

866
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:25.239
It looks like higher up.

867
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.320
We got about yeah, we got about twenty five seconds here,

868
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.519
and I wanted to make it through this handwriting. We

869
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:33.480
did it. We can pick this up next week. Either way.

870
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:35.360
I did find that he was not the author of

871
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:37.360
the Zodiac. There's just really no way he could be,

872
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.960
especially with this type of handwriting. But we will cover

873
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:43.400
this handwriting when we come back next week, and we're

874
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:49.000
going to talk about secondary news suspect that has introduced

875
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:54.400
me to the investigative reporter I believe who contacted me

876
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:56.599
from the La Times last year, who wanted me to

877
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:58.599
do a handwriting exam, then found out what I was

878
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:00.639
part of with the Zodiac, and I never heard back

879
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:03.519
on him. He is now named Marvin Mark Gulis or

880
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:06.880
Marvin uh. We'll talk about him next after this one.

881
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:09.400
Next week, you guys, everybody have a wonderful weekend. I

882
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:11.320
hope your new year has started out great. And thank

883
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:15.000
you guys for being here. We'll see you next Friday.

884
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:19.079
He did not well, and that was a good recap.

885
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:21.599
That was good.

886
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:26.079
This is a good show by so fast.

887
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:29.840
All right, you guys, take care. I'll soon ta