Nov. 27, 2025

JonBenet Ramsey Murder Part 6

JonBenet Ramsey Murder Part 6
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Getting back to the evidence in the horrific murder of JonBenet Ramsey. Looking at items of evidence used in the commission of the crime that was not found in the home or some items not recognized by the family and house keepers that makes this murder so bizarre. This includes the injection of John Mark Karr into the investigation. JMK is a pedophile based on criminal records and testimony from a significant other which makes his transgendered change seem necessary in order to disguise himself.

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Good morning, True Seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.

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I'd like to welcome to the show today, Nolan del Campo,

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Good morning, everybody. Good money. All right, so of course

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we always like to move right on. Ooh, let's go back.

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My fingers got skippy. I actually decided to bring up

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those questions that they were asking for covered California in

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regards to how they were going to gauge, I guess

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or base what my premiums should be, just because I

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thought it was interesting. Now, I was under the impression

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that they weren't allowed to ask you about previous conditions.

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Am I wrong on that? I don't know. You have

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to disclose, I would think so, I would think that

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you would have to be honest so if they're asking

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the question and you're pretty much supposed to answer. But

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I was under the impression once Obamacare come into play,

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then then it wasn't supposed to be a scenario of Oh,

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how sick are you and we're going to charge you

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separately or differently from blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

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I mean, because granted all of these people like myself

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that are not using medical care on a regular basis,

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are where are premiums going to if that isn't to

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subsidize these other individuals, right, I mean, so basically the

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questions that they had on here was choose the level

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based on group two, which I still don't even understand

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what group one and group two is, but either way,

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in both groups they ask the same questions, and it

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says member with the most okay, group two, member with

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the most healthcare needs. If you do not answer, we

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will use medium use. So they're going to throw you

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right in here to four to five doctor visits that

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includes tests and treatment if you don't answer these questions.

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So there are really going to hit you with something

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if you don't answer. But I'm also sure you're supposed

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to answer honestly, So your choices are low use one

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doctor visit and test. Preventative services too. That's basically your

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annual checkups, just to make sure you don't have breast cancer,

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cervical cancer, prostate cancer, you know these things. And then

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maybe you see the doctor once a year because you

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got a cold or a virus or something else that

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you need some meds for. Medium use is four to

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five doctor visits that includes tests and treatment. High use

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is surgery or outpatient treatment a number of doctor visits

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and tests, and very high use is a hospital stay, outpatient.

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It's blurry for me taking a picture off my computer.

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Outpatient treatment a number of doctor visits and tests. And

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then they move on to what level prescription drug use

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will work best for Group two in twenty twenty five.

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Choose the level based on the Group two member with

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the most prescriptions. If you do not answer once again,

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we will use medium use. Medium use is one to

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two prescriptions each month. Low use is two to three

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prescriptions during the year or brief illness, which that's pretty

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much what I fall into. Medium use one to two

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prescriptions each month. High use three prescriptions each month, often

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high higher cost drugs and then very high use. You're

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having like four to five prescriptions a year, and I

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think that's where they would have put my dad with

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diabetes or somebody with congestive heart failure or these types

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of issues. Either way, I didn't think they were allowed

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to ask you these type of questions. I also feel

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like this is some type of a hip of violation.

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I shouldn't have to disclose my medical history to anybody, period.

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And even if it is blanketed with a ooh, how

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many uses do you have? One does indicate something whereas

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another doesn't. Right, low use doesn't indicate much, but very

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high use indicates that you have a lot of medical issues.

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I don't know, Thank goodness. Anyways, while I was doing

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my YouTube work this week and putting up posting things

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on social media, I got this little message over here

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on the left hand side, and it's asked me to

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monetize basically this reel. It wanted me to put this

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real up in order to make money off of it.

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And the entry to it is the shocking theory is

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Katy Perry John Beney Ramsey. Now, of all the things

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that we talked about, and I made very light of

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the whole Katy Perry thing being like the ultimate conspiracy

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theorists idea or thought that John Benay didn't really die

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and autopsy photos are fake. Parents went through all of

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that because she sold John Beney to Hollywood and now

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she is Katy Perry, all right, So I figured I

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was going to settle some things for people, So I

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threw up a whole bunch of pictures here if we

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will take note to Katy Perry actually being a brunette,

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not a blonde. But the other thing that really got me.

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And they always say ears never change, right, You go

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with the ears you were born with, and then they

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get a little bit larger over the ears. But for

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the most part, your ears don't morph into something else.

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They don't grow into some different and the styles of

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or the shape of your ears pretty much consistent. I

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kind of felt for a minute there for John Bennet,

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because as I was looking at her ears, the poor

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thing is going to a set of ears like my daughter,

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and you pull her hair back, and boy, those things

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are just whoop woo woo woo. So you can see

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these ears, right, I mean they're great, big, huge, sticking

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down from the side of her head right there. But

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then you look at Carrie Paity carry Paity Perry's ears

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and look hers actually inclined back and move back towards

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the head. They're definitely a completely different shape. They don't

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fan out, they fan back, and even the shapes of

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them are different. So I thought, if there was anything

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we could take from this is that those are not

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the same ears. These are not the same people just thought,

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and I would never have allowed them to monetize attempt

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to pull it up a reel that says something as

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stupid as that, as if I'm going to question the

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public or even create this kind of misinformation in people

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by wanting to monetize something that alludes to a theory

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that isn't even true. It's just that's idiocy that media

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at its finest, all right, So back to John Denay,

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of course I wanted to look at this particular not

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on the garrett, so I brought up several different pieces

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of the information that was on here. This article or

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this was off of the documentary. It says the men

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maid never saw parachute cord in the house. But what

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we have that's made the garret is actually a parachute

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cord We can see a portion of the paint brush

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down here that was left behind, so evidently this was

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a much longer brush and it was snapped into three pieces,

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the piece that was attached to the garret, the piece

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that was left behind, and the piece that was used

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to actually sexually abuse her. Was not fairly in the house.

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I know, gross And it says right here end of

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paint rush was never found, so we're missing various parts. A.

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Where did this parachute cord come from? B? Where did

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that third part of that paint rush go to? I

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also noted because we've talked about Garrett's before in these presentations,

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and this is the nineteen forty nine Louise Springer autopsy

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photos showing a pre cut clothesline rope used by the suspect. Now,

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the clothesline back in the day, long before it was

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the plastic hollow tube or plastic with fiber with plastic

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fiber filler in order to strengthen it. There was an

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actual line or rope that was used for clothesline cord.

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But we talked about this clothesline thing all the way

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up through Sandy Betts where she had a clothesline go

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missing from her backyard, a new one placed on her

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front porch. Like she talks a lot about how she's

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being tormented and torn to buy the Zodiac and this

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clothesline that's involved. But when I go through back through

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many of these, even the Lake barry Essa murders, they

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were pre cut pieces of rope that were used. And

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we know that. We have Jack's son Charles talking about

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how Jack had two to three foot lengths of pre

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cut rope in his trunk. Nothing long enough to tie

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something down with, but to tie someone up with. Right,

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So visited one time? Yes in any of yes, absolutely, yeah,

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And of course, unfortunately some of her information I found,

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like her the map that she gave me she claimed

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to have had left either in her mailbox or in

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the back of her car. I don't know. She's supposedly

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had evidence left by the Zodiac in so many places.

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But after I reviewed the handwriting on that map, it

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was coincidentally very consistent with hers. And she's the only

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one to have ever received a map like this. I mean,

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why would he give her a map and not send

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it to law enforcement? Why would I just he taunted

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law enforcement, not individuals? Y soocked right, Yes, yeah, And

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she may very well have been. She was a gorgeous

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coal boy. She was like Queen of the Derby type. Yeah,

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And of course that's when she was working at the bar,

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or working as a server, and of course coming into contact,

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I'm sure with a lot of pervy men who were

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wanting wanting her attention for whatever the purpose was, so

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laundering research. They described this not on the Garrett as

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a skilled, specialized technical, not making something an eight year

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old couldn't have done. And then of course John Bunny

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Ramsey was alive when it was used on her, so

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that would exclude I always go back to they tried

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to say they hit her on the head, but we've

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been shown through the autopsy that the blow to the

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head came after the strangulation. There were two bouts of strangulation,

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and at least one of them, John Bennet had gotten

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her own skin cells underneath her fingernail trying to get

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the rope off of her throat. So she obviously was

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a little fighter. Yeah, so that the Burke theory falls short,

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which you know excludes the parents by logic in that theory.

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This type of not requires training, they say, but I'm

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looking at this not and I'm not really seeing a

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lot of training behind it, but it would it would

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take some knowledge of how to get that rope to

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stay tight enough to be able to use it as

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a garrett to strangle somebody. Let's see Burt, so was

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there one on the other end then? And then they

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just use it as a handle, you know, because it's

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cut in these pictures. So this is this is the

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garrett up here after it's been removed. I'm not sure

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what part of it or where the actual wood was

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attached to. It looks like maybe over to this end

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we see also these two loops. So I'm highly confused

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about this whole setup here and how a single stick

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could create a garrett. But then again, I'm not a

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garrett maker. I'd want tis right, You think you'd want

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something or at least like some type of a noose

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type setup where the rope would slide when you pulled

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or And it seemed to me almost as if they

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would have had to have twisted it even if they

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had let's say, two sticks. I know. So, yes, I'm

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definitely confused by it. Let's see, the parents would have

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rushed okay, yeah, so oh yes, so I did go

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and I'm thinking Navy right because of Jack Jack being

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in the Navy, although we know he was also in

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the Air Force. And I'm not sure what type of

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knots they learned to tie in the Air Force versus

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the Navy. But I had been on a hot search

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for many years looking for this specialized knot and everything.

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And I know this might be a little hard to see,

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but some of them up here you can see where

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they make slip knots. Some of them you could see,

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you know, pretty fanciful like latticing done with knots, different

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types that crisscross almost like a pretzel. Any one of

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these ones that I looked at, though, were nothing consistent.

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So these are all maritime knots that were at a restaurant,

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and they had several pictures of it. So here's another one. Again,

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it's behind glass, so getting you know, clear shots of

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it was a little complicated, but I could still see

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the makings of many of these knots and which directions

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they go, how they're assembled. Of course, not many of

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them had anything going in between them in order to

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support or to prove that this was some type of

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a specialized knot. Here's some that are a little bit clearer.

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between it, but again doesn't look anything like what we're

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looking on the garret. That one has something going in

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between that one, Again, I still think we're looking for something.

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It would have to have slip. It would have to

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I don't know. This one I found also had something

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going through it, but you could see how it only

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has one rope going around the actual piece of wood

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itself with the knots on a side. Again doesn't even

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remotely look close to that. I did find this while

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I was doing some research this week, and it talks

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about blood samples and this is why the family was excluded.

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And I found this to be extremely interesting because this

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is how they figure there's an outside intruder. So if

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they know this, why do they keep perpetuating the idea

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that the Ramsey the Ramseys are responsible or allowing America

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to even think that? Says In December two thousand and three,

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forensic investigators extracted enough material from a mixed blood sample

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found on John Bonnay's underwear establish a DNA profile. That's

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one thing I didn't know they found mixed blood sample.

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That's weird, So right, So are you saying there was

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more than two people involved? Or is this mixed blood

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a part John Benet and be part intruder. It says

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that DNA belonged to an unknown male person and excluded

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the DNA of each of the Ramseys. The DNA was

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submitted to the FBI's Combined DNA Index System CODIS, which

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the FBI said they couldn't put Jack in, which I

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thought was absolute. As nine, Jack's been criminally arrested, Jack's

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done time in jail, why is it? Why can't his

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and if we're finding a match in the handwriting between

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him and the zodiac, why can't it be compared? That's

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literally how come let me take this back a step.

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How come they can use DNA like the ancestry dot

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com or one, two, three and meters to go back

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through history to identify some not even involved with the crime,

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to track back forward to bust somebody, But they can't

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put Jack's DNA in the system, at least as I'm told, says.

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In October twenty sixteen, a report said that new forensic

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analysis with more sensitive techniques revealed that the original DNA

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contained genetic markers from two individuals other than John Bennet.

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Did you catch that right? Since I've two other So

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that's what I've been saying is that this was a

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group effort. This was not a singular effort. This was

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not one person. There are more people that are involved here,

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it says a. James Kohler, who was a lead investigator

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for the DA's office, said that there were additional traces

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of male DNA found on the cord and paint rush

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that Boulder District Attorney Mary Lacy did not mention, and

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that there were six separate DNA samples belonging to unknown

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individuals that were found by the test. Former FBI profiler

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Candace Alone believes that the DNA, having shown up identically

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in several different places on multiple services, belongs to the killer.

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So this means that the DNA they've identified on the underwear,

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they've identified on the garrett, and they've identified in multiple

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other places, but this person is unidentified UH. Former FBI

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profiler Candace Along believes that the DNA oh I read

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that Former Adams County, Colorado District Attorney Bob Grant, who

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has assisted the Boulder DA's office in the case for

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many years, also believes that the DNA evidence is significant,

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saying that any resolution of the case would have to

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explain how the DNA showed up on several pieces of

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John Benese clothing. Forensic pathologist Michael Baden said trace amounts

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of DNA can get on places and clothing from all

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different non suspicious means. There is no forensic evidence to

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show that this is a stranger murder. What h So

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this goes back to the water bottle with Dennis had

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indicated a water bottle with Denny, which is Jack's son,

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had shown up at a crime scene where a woman

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had been murdered on the side of the freeway, and

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the FBI stated that could just be because he drank

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off the bottle as he was driving by and happened

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to hucket out the window at the same point where

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this dead woman lay. So then how come Joseph DiAngelo

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was found guilty. Could that not also be the same

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type of circumstance. You know, what proof do you have

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that he actually killed these people or had raped these people.

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I don't even know if they did any tests on

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the rape because they never talked about the fifty s rapes.

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Either way, the talk about the stun gun comes from

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these marks that are found on John Benay's body. So

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with the bloodstain on the pot panties, she's wearing underwear

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that are too big and not hers. Did these underwear

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come from someone else? I want to say that Patsy

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had indicated that she had kept bigger pairs of underwear

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for other of John Maney's friends who might come over

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and need underwear. To me, that was extremely odd. That odd.

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I get having enough money to supply things, but I'd

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never with my children growing up, and I had all

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kinds of kids around the house because of their friends.

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Never once did I ever think I needed to keep

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an extra pair of underwear on hand for him. So

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these marks one on her face. I'm not sure where

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this one is at, but there were two sets of marks,

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and when they lined those marks up, they were very consistent.

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So here I'm guessing that this is the two sets

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right here where she had been purportedly stun gunned twice. Otherwise,

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I don't think they have an explanation for these marks,

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or at least I haven't seen any. So it shows

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that there are blood stains from her shirt, blood stains

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from the panties, blood stains standard from a swab with

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saliva right and left hand finger sample or samples from

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the tape, and blood stains from the white blanket. So

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there's a lot of blood or trace blood evidence. I

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would have to say, because she didn't clear, she didn't

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bleed out from her head like they said, there was

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a limited amount of blood in her in her brain

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from the actual skull fracture, because she was already dead

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when she took the blow. Thus there was no profuse

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bleeding that had occurred. So where is this blood that's

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coming from on all these items? Another another shot from

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the docuseries In addition, one into the paintbrush was never found.

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Why hide this and leave the garret? So that's that's

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another great point. Why would you hide that third piece

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that she was sexually assaulted with? But leave the garrett

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questions to ponder. I don't think you would. I think

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if you were the parents that had done this, you

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would have gotten rid of all of that evidence. If

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that's what you did, was get rid of any evidence,

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you would have gotten rid of all of it, kind

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of like the duct tape, like the cord, and like

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the bludgeon. So let's see whose presentation is this this

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is an example of the other side of the case.

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This is simply a look at the other side of

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the coin. So this is somebody who's playing devil's advocate

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in regards to the evidence. And it says, first some

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general observations. The handwriting comparisons are not evidence against the ramsays.

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The comparison excludes John as the author. Patsy would have

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to be a complicitor in any sexual assault for her

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to have turned around and wrote this letter, right, she

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would have to have been a part of what was

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going on for her to then try to cover it

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up by writing this letter. Chet's inconclusive opinion in wigs

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in their favor, especially with the expert's opinion that she

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probably did not write the note. The statistical belief that

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parents are the most likely suspects. Statistically, child abduction murders

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of which this fits the definition are much more likely

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to have been committed by strangers. Study conducted by the

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Washington Attorney General and the Department of Justice and quoted

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by the FBI. The pineapple photo. The pineapple is not

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evidence that the Ramseys, re lying what is in the tupperware?

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Is it in the stomach? Generally two hours is it

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then in the small intestines three to twenty four hours.

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Doctor Michael Graham said it could have been eaten the

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day before, But then again, somebody would have had to

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have fed it to her. So why didn't the maid

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or the Ramses or somebody speak up and say, oh, yeah, yeah,

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I gave her that yesterday before we went to the

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Christmas party, or we're gone all day for Christmas, or

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whatever that reasoning might be. The diagram photo, the security

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of the house and snow on the ground is not

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evidence against the Ramses. There were at least seven doors

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or windows that the police found unlocked. Reichenbox report says

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the snow was only on the grass, not around the

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areas where the intruder could have entered. And at the

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meeting with doctor Lee, Reichenbot says he does not know

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if I cut that off and didn't pick up the

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other half of it. Either way, Watching the docuseries once

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again and watching them pick apart the fact that they

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the media just ran with oh there's snow and there's

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no intruder footprints, when it was a very light dusting

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that was even on the grass and it only happened

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to be in one area, and most of us know

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that once the sun comes up, usually light dusting is

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going to melt and go away unless it's in the shade.

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So I would also counteract with what side of the

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house does the sun come up on and where would

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we anticipate to still see snow at that time of

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the morning, based on the fact that the sun hadn't

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made it over the house yet to melt down that snow. Again,

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it's not anything conclusive that states that the parents were

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responsible just because there weren't for footprints in the snow.

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If there's no snow around the areas where they claim

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that the intruder could have gotten it. Terry Batcher actually

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did the redundant patterns of seven come, eleven and twenty

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one Blackjack, which I see some of his emails every

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now and again, and he's still finding this stuff on

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through the Idaho murders and Antifa and all of them

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he's got. And I'm not saying he's wrong, folks, by

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any means. I do understand that what I'm claiming is

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sixty years worth of dastardly business, all done by the

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same group. There's nothing to state that this group ever

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stopped just like most of your government programs I e. Artichoke, Bluebird,

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paper Clip, MK Ultra, Midnight Climax. I'm telling you about

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a program that was tried and true given different names,

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because every time somebody discovered the program was going on,

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they'd shut it down, rename it, maybe even possibly move

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it to another location, what have you, in different players

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and they just continue that same business. And we've seen

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that happen all the way into the early two thousands

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as far as some of the statements that are being

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made by people who have committed crimes who believed that

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they were part of this program. And I think there's

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a good chance Maxwell, as a socialite, was also a

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socialite for the MK ulture program. I mean, how else

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do you get brainwashed into believing what you're doing is okay?

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And how do you get protected either way? Terry Batcher

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did a rundown on the SBTC. He kind of gives

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you an idea of how he used the A to

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one conversion of the alphabet to come to this particular

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latitude and longitude. He's much better at explaining it, but

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bottom line is what he came up with is this

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is Garrett, this is the crossing basically of where this

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ends up lining up with Garrett and Burke Street. I

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think that's oddly coincidental. How Yeah, and Gearrett was the

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device that was used. So is he saying that this

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is who this is gonna be our Patsy? Is this

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his neat little way in the in the Ransom note

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to put together who they're going to call out for

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this and how they're going to handle this situation, especially

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with the media. Maybe maybe not, but for him to

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come up with this latitude and longitude and then just

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PLoP it into GPS or navigation on the computer and

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find out that, oh and by the way, this isn't

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Michigan where the second home is? Okay? Interesting? Well again,

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just another one of those coincidences that that latitude and

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longitude maps back to Michigan and then to a location

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that is between Garrett and Burke Street. So the yeah, yeah,

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Well it gets even stranger when we get into Mark Carr.

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But the autopsy report John Maine autopsy revealed critical details

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about her cause of death. The report indicated she suffered

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a school fracture and strangulation. Bruising and abrasions were found

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on her body, suggesting a violent struggle and who didn't

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hear this? Now I get it. The basement's pretty low

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when you're living on the third floor of any building.

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Is there a possibility that that's why they needed the

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stun gun to continue to subdue her while they committed

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their acts. The coroner noted evidence of sexual assault, a

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controversial finding that influenced early theories about the crime. Time

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of death was estimated between ten pm on December twenty

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fifth and two am on December twenty sixth, nineteen ninety six.

460
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:43.920
Trace evidence collected during the autopsy includes fibers and hair samples.

461
00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:48.440
These materials have been subject to ongoing analysiss forensic technique

462
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:53.720
techniques improve the DNA evidence and technology. DNA evidence has

463
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:56.480
played a central role in the investigation. A small amount

464
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.400
of male DNA was found on Jombini's underwear and her

465
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.640
long john so that's the location of this male DNA.

466
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:06.720
This DNA did not match any family members or known suspects.

467
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:10.759
Advanced DNA techniques have allowed for more detailed analysis of

468
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:14.519
this evidence. In recent years, genetic genealogy has emerged as

469
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.680
a promising tool for identifying the DNA source. Experts have

470
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:22.200
debated the significance of the DNA evidence. Some argue it

471
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:25.000
belongs to the killer, while others suggest it could be

472
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:29.200
the result of contamination or transfer. But if everybody was tested,

473
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.119
anybody who was a suspect, I'm sure they tested friends

474
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.000
and family, anybody else that was there that day. It

475
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:40.960
is not matching any of those, then how is it

476
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.519
contamination or transfer? I think everybody would have been ruled

477
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:48.839
out that had an opportunity to around it, right in

478
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:55.039
something as large scale as this was. I did capture

479
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:57.480
this off of the Internet way back in twenty thirteen.

480
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:00.920
This was in regards to John Carr, and it does

481
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.039
have a url up there at the top. I found

482
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:05.240
that the links are broken, does not take you back

483
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.000
to this. Actually, I found several of the links that

484
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.519
I had associated to articles on John Mark Carr had

485
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.799
been broken, no longer exist or gone even went to

486
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:17.839
the wayback machine, And now all of a sudden, the

487
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:21.079
wayback machine is not performing anymore either, which I thought

488
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:24.519
was even even more tell that we can't go back

489
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:26.440
and see what was on the Internet at this point

490
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:31.960
in time because they've now made that that site unavailable. Basically,

491
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:35.160
so it says car at the Boulder bus station twelve

492
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:39.480
twenty six, ninety six. And the question is this is

493
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:42.599
a eyewitness to somebody getting on the bus that night

494
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:46.039
in Boulder, Colorado. So Dan Pride claims to have seen

495
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:49.400
John Mark Carr on a bus leaving Boulder near midnight

496
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:53.039
at Christmas of ninety six, and to have contemporaneous proof

497
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:56.759
of having talked with Carr. However, he describes Car as

498
00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:01.000
being five to eleven, which was closer to Jack's size,

499
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:03.319
when he, in fact is only five to six. I

500
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:08.200
don't think you can make that mistake. Five six, five eleven.

501
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:13.359
I want to know how tall Dan Pride is for

502
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:16.160
him to have guessed five eleven when John Mark Carr

503
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:19.160
is only five foot six, and it contradicts itself. It

504
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:26.039
says emaciated hot bellion fin, how are you that's bellion? Right? Okay?

505
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.680
So I hadn't read that yet. Moreover, internet poster Henrietta

506
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:33.559
McPhee posts eleven asserts that before Carr came onto the scene,

507
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.319
Read's original website first posted in two thousand and two.

508
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.480
So this guy, I don't know who Read is, but

509
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.000
it's whoever's posting this information in regards to Dan Pride.

510
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.000
In two thousand and two stated that Dan pride and

511
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.119
this was what I was more interested in was his

512
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:55.720
original eyewitness account said the individual I asked for a

513
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:58.960
cigarette light, which means he's a smoker, as is Jack

514
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.599
that night was thirty five to fifty years old. That's

515
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:09.640
a big range old, emaciated, I don't know, all right,

516
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:13.759
so potbellied, thin, about five to eleven, and really terrified

517
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:17.079
of something, perhaps just a schinzophrenic having a bad day,

518
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:20.000
perhaps someone who did not want to be seen. His

519
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:23.000
vizeque reminded me of my father's after years of congestive

520
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:28.839
heart failure. Vaguely cowboyish. Back to Jack, he looked sort

521
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:32.799
of like McReynolds from a two second flashed TD photo

522
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.119
I saw years later after he died. I don't know

523
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:38.480
who mc reynolds is, but they go on to say

524
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.519
McReynolds had a large white beard. That's not John Mark Carr.

525
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:47.680
He had brown hair, and I didn't even actually ever

526
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:49.599
see him with facial hair, so who knows if he

527
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:54.559
could even actively grow a full beard, and was much

528
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:57.000
older than Car. So it is difficult to believe Reid

529
00:31:57.119 --> 00:31:59.960
could have so substantially forgotten what the person he saw

530
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:03.079
looked like. So now she's flipping over saying, who is

531
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:05.920
Car in the first place? John Mark Carr is the

532
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:09.200
person who took credit for John Boney Ramsay's murder while

533
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:13.119
he was in Thailand. He claimed that he was responsible

534
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:17.160
for it. They arrested and extradited him. I saw pictures

535
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:22.440
again in those fabulous tabloids of him drinking champagne, smiling

536
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:25.240
on the plane, not even in handcuffs with the individuals

537
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:28.960
who were bringing him back. So they were making it

538
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.359
appear as though, through those tabloids that John Mark Carr

539
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:35.119
was receiving treatment that was less than what a killer

540
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:38.079
of a six year old child should be receiving. And

541
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:40.839
I agree with that. Why would he be drinking champagne

542
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:43.680
or what looks like champagne in a glass and celebrating

543
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:49.440
anything on his plane trip back? Right, Let's see, So

544
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:53.640
now she's saying mc reynolds is the person who So

545
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.400
they went from saying damn Pride claims to have seen

546
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:59.039
John Mark Carr and spoke to him. Then it goes

547
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:03.279
into a a statement in regards to mc reynolds had

548
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.759
a large white beard and was much older than Car.

549
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.240
So it is difficult to believe Reid could have so

550
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:11.680
substantially forgotten what the person he saw look like. Okay,

551
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:14.400
so Reid, I'm sorry. We've got a difference here between

552
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:16.720
Reid and Dan Pride, and I'm not sure because then

553
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:21.240
they hop back into Pride himself. In an August eighteenth,

554
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.119
two thousand and six letter to The Boulder, DA acknowledges

555
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:27.039
as a witness, I have credibility problems up the ying.

556
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:30.039
I believe you would not want me involved. However, with

557
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:32.359
all the attention, you should be able to locate others

558
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:34.920
on the bus that night it was packed. If I

559
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:38.119
can be of help, of course I would be willing to,

560
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:40.640
but as I said, you will be better off with

561
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:45.160
another source. He further explains, my reference to credibility issues

562
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.960
was a reference to this site. While every single word

563
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:50.680
is correct and true, and the events have happened exactly

564
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.799
as described, it is of course a defense lawyer's dream.

565
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.079
A prosecutor would have to spend extensive effort to prove

566
00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:59.519
every word, and then by the time he got done

567
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:02.920
defending his witness improving the credibility, the focus of the

568
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:06.519
trial would be lost. So that's this person's take on

569
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.920
what would have happened. Had he stepped forward and given

570
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:13.840
any eyewitness account to this person climbing onto the bus

571
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:18.800
that night, I want to say that it was a

572
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:25.800
Greyhound bus. Was the research that I collectively remember. So

573
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:30.360
Carr was in Thailand when he confessed. Who didn't confess

574
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:35.559
to Thailand police. Okay, we're gonna get that. We're gonna

575
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:37.480
get that. Hopefully we're going to move into it rather

576
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:40.800
quickly because we are now at John Mark Carr. So

577
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:42.639
some of the notes that I put in here was

578
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:48.159
the Charlotte Boy address. Access Graphics was the name of

579
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.239
John Ramsey's business. It was bought for pennies on the dollar.

580
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:55.880
After this was perpetrated and happened, General Electric, who we

581
00:34:55.960 --> 00:35:01.000
know have been heavily associated with Jack, purchased John Ramsay's

582
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:06.000
business for pennies on the dollar. Mary Lacy cleared the

583
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.079
family of DNA. In two thousand and eight, John Mark

584
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:12.800
Carr turned himself into the Thailand Police. I showed August

585
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.360
seventeenth on here, but I think it was August fifteenth.

586
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:18.360
Either way, it was approximately seven days after Jack pulled

587
00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:23.199
his own air tubes and expired. There is a letter

588
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:28.760
that's mailed from Thailand and from Malaysia, which were supposed

589
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:32.679
to be mimics of the anthrax attacks that happened on

590
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:35.039
nine to eighteen of two thousand and one. So we

591
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.920
want to keep that premise in mind. Right now, John

592
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.639
Mark Carr is in both the areas that two fake

593
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:45.800
anthrax letters mimicking the nine to eleven events or the

594
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:51.559
two thousand and one events, attempting to portray that the

595
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:54.440
suspect for the anthrax letters has left the country and

596
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:57.280
is now mailing them from other locations, but John Mark

597
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:04.159
Carr also happens to be in those locations. Now. Is

598
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:06.800
that a picture of John Mark hurrt Yes, that was

599
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:10.559
before he became a woman. Oh great, which is going

600
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:12.159
to be another one of these things we have to

601
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:16.159
talk about. Clearly, evidence that John Mark Carr knew scent

602
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:18.519
of perfume and a running nose seemed to be the

603
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:21.760
validating evidence of being present at the crime scene. The

604
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:24.800
bracelet she was wearing another pertinent piece of info from

605
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:27.400
that night. The panties and cutting of the hair that

606
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.280
was taken. So these are some of the items that

607
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:35.079
I pulled out of a email exchange between John Mark

608
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:40.199
Carr and a reporter or journalist Michael Tracy. So now

609
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:45.639
we have another media insertion that is actually having I

610
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:48.639
think it's about four or five years of communications via

611
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:52.880
email with John Mark Carr while he's out of the country.

612
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.440
The pedophile theory that's surrounding this case, and I'm going

613
00:36:57.519 --> 00:36:59.280
to show you some articles that kind of back up

614
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:01.679
what I say. But the gist of it is that

615
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:06.320
John Mark Carr was arrested in Sonoma County for child

616
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:09.800
pornography on his computer. He was a substitute teacher and

617
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:13.360
somebody must have told on him or somehow they were

618
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:17.880
able to find these pictures. He was arrested, he was

619
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:21.079
put in jail. He was in jail for five months,

620
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:25.920
forty five days before his trial, he was released. When

621
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:29.320
he was released, this man left the country, hopping over

622
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:32.719
first to Malaysia, then to Thailand. And in the order

623
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:35.480
that the letters not only were mailed to fake the

624
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:41.000
anthrax attacks, but also in the same order in which

625
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:45.880
letters purportedly from the Zodiac was being written to Tom Voight,

626
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:48.880
acting as though the Zodiac was out of the country.

627
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:56.360
So now do you see my triangle there, keyn Anthrax

628
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:02.880
being mimicked, Zodiac being mimicked from two locations where John

629
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:06.360
Mark Carr was, who then turns around and claims to

630
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:13.079
have been the killer of John Beney Ramsey. No, that's

631
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:16.159
a big coincidence, Noel Indo, I know you like to

632
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:18.719
play that devil's advoquy that I don't have enough evidence

633
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:26.039
to suggest. I'm sorry, that's way too big of a coincidence.

634
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:28.880
And then one week after Jack dies or takes his

635
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:32.400
own life, basically, John Mark Carr admits to killing John

636
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:37.360
Benet Ramsey publicly and is then extradited back to Boulder, Colorall.

637
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.840
He's extra diited back to Los Angeles first. Again, why

638
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:44.480
los Angeles. We have a lot of the happenings for

639
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:47.920
these cases in Los Angeles, But why los Angeles when

640
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:51.000
he's being extradited back to Boulder, Colorado where the crime

641
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:54.679
was committed. But he comes back to Los Angeles first.

642
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:59.039
Then they extra died him to Colorado. They find that

643
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:02.000
he doesn't match the handwriting, he doesn't match the DNA,

644
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:06.960
and the inside information he has is not explained really

645
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:09.480
by anybody other than they try to tell you afterwards

646
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:13.280
that everything that he knew was public knowledge. Well, he

647
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.079
knew a lot I did not know from all the

648
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.840
research I've done, I couldn't find things like what bracelet

649
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:20.519
she was wearing, what perforum she had? You know what

650
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:24.039
I'm saying, These things were not I don't think public knowledge,

651
00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:27.079
and if they were, somebody please show me where these

652
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:32.400
articles are. So this is actually an article over here

653
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:35.679
to the right from a significant other that had actually

654
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.360
been with John Mark Carr, says. Man who claimed to

655
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:41.639
have killed beauty queen John Benney Ramsey suspected of recruiting

656
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:45.920
children to be sex slaves. The man who falsely claimed

657
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.159
he killed child beauty queen John Benny Ramsey is running

658
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.599
a cult to luring girls as young as four, it

659
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:57.039
was claimed last night John Mark Carr has founded a

660
00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:00.719
group called the Immaculates to recruit young children to be

661
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:04.679
as sex place. His ex fiance, Samantha Spiegel, says, so

662
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:08.360
this was somebody that he was about to marry, which

663
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:12.679
kind of gets sick because she is pretty much as

664
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:16.239
laying Maxwell type individual as well. Here as we go

665
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:19.840
through this says, he already has string of followers who

666
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.679
are giving him food and shelter, and to avoid police attention,

667
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.039
he has become a woman. Why would you have to

668
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:27.960
become a woman to avoid police attention. You're still going

669
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:31.880
to be John Mark Carr. Change your breast, change your junk.

670
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.800
I don't care. You're still going to be John Mark Carr,

671
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:40.760
so it says Miss Spiegel nineteen. By the way, now

672
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.239
John Mark Carr is like forty something years at the

673
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:48.000
age that he I believe turns himself in for killing

674
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:54.719
John Bennet is now set to Mary, a nineteen year old,

675
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:57.800
says Carl loves having sex with children and sees it

676
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.559
as something which is healthy for him to do. John

677
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:03.519
Beney was found dead at her parents' home in Boulder, Colorado,

678
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:07.519
nineteen ninety six. Carr confessed to ten years later, and

679
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.760
despite a graphic confession, his DNA did not match that

680
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.719
held at the crime scene, and he was condemned for

681
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:18.440
being an attention seeking eccentric. Miss Siegel met him shortly

682
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:21.639
afterwards and got in touch because she wanted to help him.

683
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:25.400
I think I was just thinking that he was misunderstood.

684
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:28.360
She said he was a victim of his childhood, of

685
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:30.920
his family, of everybody, and that he needed to be

686
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:33.719
saved in some sort of way. In an interview for

687
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:37.559
us TV New York Network NBC, Miss Spiegele said that

688
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:41.840
their relationship escalated quickly, and when he proposed, she accepted,

689
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:44.920
only to be drawn into his sick world. She was

690
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:47.320
completely under his control, and when he asked her to

691
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:50.559
recruit young girls for him, she agreed. I started doing it,

692
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:53.480
she said, explaining how she would size up children in

693
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:56.039
the street and thought of recruiting her own niece and

694
00:41:56.119 --> 00:42:00.840
the young children of friends. He was so perceived, chef

695
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:04.639
freaking whack. I thought it was okay that he needed

696
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:08.719
it for his health. I'm I want to vomit. This

697
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:11.239
is so maxwell all day long, and we're just seeing

698
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:15.920
another version of it. Really. Wow. He was so persuasive

699
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:18.800
and manipulative, and it was a family he wanted, and

700
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:20.639
I didn't want to get in the way of something

701
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:23.360
he wanted. She did not think anything was wrong because

702
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:29.639
she was so brainwashed. Oh oh yeah, and thought having

703
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:33.840
sex yeah, and thought having sex with children was good

704
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:36.559
for him. It just seemed like it was healthy for him.

705
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:39.039
Why keep him from doing something he loves in a

706
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:45.360
sick way? Whoa oh man? All right? So I got

707
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:47.760
a couple of pictures here. This is John Mark Carr

708
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:54.199
transforming from the picture we saw before into this next version,

709
00:42:54.199 --> 00:43:00.840
which I think is probably somewhere in between the transgender change.

710
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:04.079
And then, of course to the woman that we see

711
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:08.800
there on the right, I thought, well, it says since

712
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:11.159
they split up, she has sought a restraining order against

713
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:13.639
him due to a series of sick notes he sent her.

714
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.519
One read if you cost me my little girls, I

715
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:18.679
will hunt you down and kill you, while another said

716
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:22.079
I only kill the girls I love the most. Police, however,

717
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.760
been unable to find where he is, and reports in

718
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:27.800
the United US media claim he could be in California

719
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.559
with his own cult. It is also reported he has

720
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:34.440
undergone a sex operation and now is called a Lexus

721
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:37.599
bel orn Reich. Miss Spiego said his mission is to

722
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.159
create a cult called the Immaculates of little girls that

723
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:42.880
would have sexual relationships with him and do whatever he

724
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:49.599
wanted and be his little minions. Yeah. Absolutely disgusting. Child

725
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:52.880
porn charges drop. This is where things get interesting. So

726
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:56.320
Santa Rosa, California, John Mark Carr was freed Thursday night

727
00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:59.800
Thursday after a judge dismissed child pornography charges against the

728
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:03.039
one time suspect in the John Benny Ramsey slain because

729
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:06.199
prosecutors didn't have enough evidence to take the case to trial.

730
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:10.880
Judge Reneisha two ordered Car released immediately, bringing an end

731
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:13.840
to his two month odyssey in the US criminal justice

732
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.400
system after he was extradited from Thailand in the Ramsey case.

733
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:20.760
He left Sonoma County jail flanked by his attorneys and

734
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.400
rode off in a black Vovo SUV Car forty one.

735
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:27.400
Had been extradited to Sonoma County last month after DNA

736
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.079
evidence cleared him of the nineteen ninety six slain of

737
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:33.840
the child beauty queen in Boulder, Colorado. The Sonoma misdemeanor

738
00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:39.440
case fell apart. They say, misdemeanor is child pornography a misdemeanor? No, okay,

739
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:44.840
so that's just we're being mediized again. Misdemeanor case fell

740
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:48.599
apart when sheriff's investigator admitted losing vital computer evidence sees

741
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:50.679
from Car in April two thousand and one, when he

742
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:53.719
was working as a substitute teacher in Sonoma Napa Counties.

743
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:57.639
Defense lawyers tried unsuccessfully to get the charges dismissed and

744
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:00.360
were seeking to have evidence barred from the trial when

745
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:03.800
prosecutors said they couldn't establish when the child porn images

746
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:09.400
had been downloaded onto Car's computer. Who cares when? Who cares? When? Like?

747
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:13.400
What is the leader? They're there? Prosecutors were seeking a

748
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.159
conviction to force car to register as a sex offender,

749
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.679
but even if they had been successful, they said Carr

750
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:21.199
would not have served any additional time in jail because

751
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:23.599
he had spent several months behind bars a waiting trial

752
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:25.920
in two thousand and one before he was released and

753
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:30.840
fled the state. So child pornography pornography only carries a

754
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:36.920
five month sentence, not before they're considering that time served.

755
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:42.400
Let's see, Carr had been on a lamb until his

756
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.559
arrest in Bangkok, which created a media sensation when he

757
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:48.039
told reporters he was with John Benney when she died

758
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.960
and Sonoma County here. And I've heard two versions of this.

759
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:54.840
One he walked into the Thailand police department turned himself in,

760
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:58.119
claiming to have killed John Benny Ramsay. Another was is

761
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:00.719
that he got himself as a job as a teacher,

762
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:03.760
and they discovered that there was either child pornography or

763
00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:06.239
he had committed some type of a child crime, and

764
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:09.199
that's why he was arrested, then took in to the

765
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:12.159
police station, and then once in the police station, then

766
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.840
made the obvious statements that I'm the killer of John

767
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:19.840
Mark Carr, but of John Benny Ramsey. By the way,

768
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:22.800
he had been claiming this to Michael Tracy, an investigative

769
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:26.199
reporter or journalist, for four years before walking into the

770
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.159
police department to do this. So there is some type

771
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:32.719
of perpetration that's going on here, some type of misinformation

772
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:36.760
to skew everything, and John Work Carr is definitely a

773
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:40.599
part of it. Clarr had been on dep in Sonoma

774
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:42.760
County hearings over the last two weeks. The defense had

775
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:46.159
accused prosecutors of misconduct for not alerting a judge sooner

776
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:49.199
that evidence was missing. The defense also said the search

777
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.199
warrants were based on an unreliable witness with the history

778
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:56.880
of mental illness. Sheriff Bill Cogbill said that he accepted

779
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:59.519
the prosecutor's decision to drop the charges in light of

780
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:04.159
the current evidence standards and legal technicalities. We do acknowledge

781
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:06.519
that there were some performance issues five years ago when

782
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:09.440
we worked this case, Cogbill said in a statement. Okay,

783
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:14.440
where there's performance issues, but you arrest and jail somebody

784
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:21.559
for five months pending trial, right and then they Yeah. Yeah.

785
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:25.760
So basically, after being acquitted of John Benet Ramsey's murder

786
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:28.760
because the DNA and handwriting and everything did not match,

787
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:31.519
he then was extradited back to Sonoma County to face

788
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:34.840
the original charges that he habsconded from, and that was

789
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:38.719
the child pornography in Sonoma County, which also happened to

790
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:42.639
be very near the polyclass thing and the Santa Rosa

791
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:46.800
hitchhiker murders. So there's just the circle is so tiny

792
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.280
and so tight. I just the coincidences are not just coincidences.

793
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:53.679
We do acknowledge that there was Okay, we are conducting

794
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:56.960
an internal affairs investigation into these issues, and we're continuing

795
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:59.719
and audit of our evidence handling procedures. So now the

796
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:07.480
are up for investigation for the loss of this particular evidence.

797
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:10.280
I don't think the evidence was lost, not in five years.

798
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:13.119
I do believe that evidence has lost in the Zodiac

799
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:16.360
case because it's been fifty years, right, we know that

800
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:20.320
detectives have walked away with letters and evidence has gone missing.

801
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:22.639
But in a case that is only five years old,

802
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:25.239
they claim to have lost the computer that had the

803
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:31.000
child pornography on it. Yeah, let's see where we're at now,

804
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:34.280
so got about a minute here, the Spokesman review Car

805
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:36.880
was suspect in two thousand and one. This gets even

806
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:41.119
more interesting. Case was Carr's attorney said that she did

807
00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:44.559
not know the depth of the investigation investigator's suspicion in

808
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.159
two thousand and one that her client, John Mark Carr,

809
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:49.960
could have had a role in John Benet's death, but

810
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:53.239
she said it seemed somebody dropped the ball. She said

811
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:56.400
that she was not contacted by law enforcement officials from Boulder,

812
00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:58.679
and that no one sought to test her client's DNA

813
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:01.639
to determine whether it matches evidence from the Colorado crime.

814
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.400
It never went anywhere, she said. Marie Case, who represented

815
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.679
Car on the two thousand and one misdemeanor charges, said

816
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:10.480
Friday that members of the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department mentioned

817
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:12.960
to her at the time that there was possibly some

818
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:17.199
involvement in the Ramsey slaying twelve hundred miles away in Bulder, Colorado,

819
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:22.000
just saying, hey, we're looking at this guy. So how

820
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:26.360
in two thousand and one did they have any inclination

821
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:30.480
whatsoever that John Mark Carr was involved with this out

822
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.119
of the blue twelve hundred miles away. They couldn't do

823
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:36.719
a link analysis on many of these crime spreeze that

824
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:39.840
they tried. Yet they turn around, somebody up for misdemeanor

825
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:43.239
charges is being looked at for this crime twelve hundred

826
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:46.400
miles away, and his attorney was told this in two

827
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:51.519
thousand and one. On Wednesday, Sonoma court records show a

828
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:55.280
California Superior Court judge granted prosecutor's request to seal the

829
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:57.639
police reports that had led to cars arrest on the

830
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:02.559
child pornography charges. The porn were lodged against Car. Oh,

831
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:04.760
we're over time. Oh my gosh, I'm gonna have to

832
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.079
come back with this. I'm glad we got through majority,

833
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:10.320
but I'm hoping everybody's starting to see the keen interest

834
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:13.320
that I have in John Mark Carr, the misinformation that's

835
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:15.440
being given, the things that they were able to get

836
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.440
away with. And we'll talk more about that when we

837
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:20.840
get to the anthrax letters and to Tom Voids letters.

838
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:24.639
I hope everybody had a wonderful Thanksgiving, have a great weekend,

839
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.199
and we will see you all next Friday. Thank you.

840
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:28.079
Nolan B.