Nov. 13, 2025

Jonbenet Ramsey Murder Part 4

Jonbenet Ramsey Murder Part 4
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Insight on the evidence in this case also brings into question some of the strange and unexplainable happenstances. From what she ate to other unknown items found in the house that will have you on your toes trying to make any logical sense out of this crime. Once we cover what evidence the public is privy to, we will look at a confession from a suspect that rocked the nation once again.

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Good morning, True seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.

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I'd like to welcome to the show today, Lindsay mcbrair ay. Yes,

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but actually hear your wind. I wish I was driving.

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All right, Well, we are back again with the John

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Bennet Ramsey case. Of course, last week we were talking

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about some of the the statements in the actual letter,

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the ransom note that was left at the crime scene

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at the Ramsey home, and then we were talking a

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little bit about later confessions. So up on my presentation

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at this point, I show that we took or we

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ended basically on late later confessions, which included John Mark

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Carr other individuals that had come forward. John Mark Carr

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is really kind of one of the more infamous I

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guess suspects that had taken credit for something he hadn't done.

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So we are definitely going to cover him in great

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detail once we're through with the actual evidence in this

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case genealogy research. Again, on the documentary that I watched,

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the recent one, John Ramsey had indicated that they he

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was hoping that they would do DNA and kind of

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trade trade trace that back through relatives or possibly link

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to forefathers who this suspect might be. I'm not sure

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what the hold up is on that, because I'm pretty

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sure this documentary was made at least a year ago,

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if not longer. By the time I had seen it

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had already been produced and on Netflix. So I'm not

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sure why we don't have some answers to this just yet, unless,

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of course, this is not an avenue they want to

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take because it means it will unravel all of these

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different crimes. So I do have a question about that,

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and of course I had, Oh, are we working here,

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let's get on it. Yeah, there we go. We do

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have questions or comments from YouTubers that had asked about that,

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so we'll go ahead and cover those comments that we

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had this last week. So I had somebody says it's

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at Tian Accountability seven four five five. Not sure who

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this is, but it says, here's your answer. She never

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passed or went missing. She was sold to Hollywood. So

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next time you see Katy Perry, you'll know to say

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hello to John ben A Ramsey. Did I lose you, Lindsey?

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Are you still there? I showed three people in the studio.

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I don't know she muted herself. Okay. Anyways, I think

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that I have heard many times people try to make

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the conclusion or state that Katy Perry is, in fact

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John ben A Ramsey. I have not done a lot

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of research into that, nor have I taken a look.

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I'm sure that the blue eyes is something that they're

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cross connecting, but I don't. I went on to, you know,

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state that I had read these theories, and I asked

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if they were also someone that believes five G is

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killing us? And of course that was more of a

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sarcastic joke, and I had mentioned that those would be

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some really convincing autopsy photos. How would you get John

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Beney Ramsey to pose for something like that, or to

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make up some type of doppelganger for her in order

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to pose for those particular photos. I just I can't

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see that being a realistic thing. But I know that

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from the individuals who were stating that John Benney was

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actually Katie Perry sold to Hollywood. They also believe that

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five G is killing us and that there's a meteor

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that's going to take out the Earth. There's this huge,

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like real conspiracy theories that are going on. So after

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I asked if they believed that, they actually came back

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and said out finding the Zodiac, absolutely, it is killing

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us slowly. CGI and augmentation has been around for nearly

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a century. We are just so gullible due to believing

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the lies of our alleged history. We do not live

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in the age of technology. Not quite sure what they

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meant by that, but yes, I did get an affirmative.

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So are you back with me, lindsay, yes, can you

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hear me? Yeah?

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Okay.

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So what I was gonna say was, uh, those are

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the kind of ones that, uh, they're seeking, they're.

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Seeking, they're on the right path, but.

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I mean you can't I mean it's a possibility, but

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it's a very low possibility.

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And those are the ones that you can't speak out loud.

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Those theories, because that's what gets the ones that really

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are trying to find the truth off the truth and

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back into La la land exactly.

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You know, so I think, you know, I mean, when

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I visualized John Manet's little tiny face and Katy Perry

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some parts of the eyes maybe you know.

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Conn Patsy, she really does look a lot like Patsy.

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Uh uh, Katy Perry does.

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What Yeah, he thinks.

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I actually, I've seen this theory before it and I

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obviously had to go down that hole and see, and

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I mean there are a lot of similarities, but not

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enough to say, yeah, that's her.

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Gotcha, gotcha? All right, I'm glad somebody else waged in

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on that, because I've only listened to people say that

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I haven't really taken it seriously. And I certainly didn't

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jump down that rabbit hole because again, we have the

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autopsy photos. You know, how did these come about? If

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if John Beney really wasn't dead? Oh my goodness. All right,

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onto the next YouTuber. Actually it's the same YouTuber says

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you you easily just believe the story given yikes, Hey,

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I got an idea. Let's figure out what pass Santa

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took last night? And why rabbits poop colorful eggs one

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day a year, since that's what you told your kids. Wait,

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even you deceive your own children, how about we figure

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out the mystery of why you were so proud to

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be a liar and deceive your kids. I was like, Wow,

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what the heck is going on right now? You just

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literally called me a liar. I said, just because you

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lied to your kids doesn't mean I did. So maybe

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you need to discuss that with someone, But it isn't me.

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Folklore has been handed down for years, and when my

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children became old enough to ask the questions about it,

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I didn't lie about it. I told them the truth.

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I don't I know that when you're using the folklore,

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you're telling these stories in order to make these whimsical

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stories and thoughts and ideas in kids' heads. Once they

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start asking the questions about it, is when you begin

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to be honest about it. You don't continue to deceive

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them and tell them that they're wrong, because that is,

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in a sense, I mean, you are deceiving and lying

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to your children. But Santa Claus worked for as long

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as it worked, and the second that they knew or

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the second that they questioned it. I told them the truth.

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Ezra Kubis comments and says, didn't Dennis say that Jack

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has a home was home in California during Christmas nineteen

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ninety six. I think I remember reading it, and yes,

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that is correct. Dennis did believe that. Dennis also didn't

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remember that Jack had taken off for nearly a month

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at least up to either December sixteenth or Christmas Day.

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I'm not exactly sure. And then he says, mister Ramsey

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was saying that they likely will be doing DNA analysis

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to where an expert will link the DNA found to

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a specific family tree and can pinpoint who the killer

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was born to, grandparents, great grandparents, grandparents, parents, and can

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eliminate siblings. That will be interesting, because again that's I

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think what John m is looking for, even though he

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hasn't gotten it. Now. I did put up here another

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podcaster which I watched this episode that you sent me,

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Lindsay the Nord Jasmine.

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Yeah, I don't, I don't. I think he's from another country,

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but he does really good work. And yes it's a she.

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Nor is a she?

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No, that must not be the one you.

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Sent it to me. You said I needed to watch it,

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and it was m K Ultra. Who I spelt that wrong?

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Mk Ultra, or she spelt that wrong. Oh no she didn't.

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It's the pun m K Cultra.

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Oh that one, yes, oh that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I just found her. She is legit like she does

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like really good research.

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Yes and that, and I was very very much impressed

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by what I was watching. It says we needed her episode,

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m K Cultra. We need to talk about the CIA

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and Colts. Now. I think I've got the U r

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L up here for everybody. If they want to go

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and watch this, they can obviously look up nor It's

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nor Jasmine on YouTube and check her out. She succinctly

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put together everything from the nineteen forties I want to say,

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up and through Jonestown Manson. I want to say, maybe

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early seventies. So she does this very succinct thing where

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she shows the connectivity between all of the players and

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everything that we've talked about and we've come across, which

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I want. I have reached out to her and asked

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if I can play her episode for our viewers because

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I think that she again wraps up in probably forty

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fifty minutes. What I go over for sixty seventy years

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and sometimes we forget, you know, ten twenty years down

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my presentation, we forget the connectivity from back there. But

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once you listen to her, it was absolutely all inspiring.

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I was like, wow, like you said, she does her homework.

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Hmm, yeah, that.

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Is a mussy for everybody for sure. And I also

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then went back to the swearing them solve on the

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Melvin Belli letter that talked about I cult trigger and

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needing work. So when you listen to Nor talk about this,

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you're going to hear her talk about colts triggers. So

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basically the bottom line is she believes that mk ultra

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is what made these colts. Yeah, the Manson fan it

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makes absolute sense if this is what they were testing.

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That and what she found in documents that discuss mk

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ultra and what they were capable of doing with this

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is much more than the government would like us to believe.

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I mean, they were completely successful on so many levels

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of brainwashing of getting somebody to do something they wouldn't

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ordinarily do, even against their morals and their virtues and

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their ethics. You know, yeah, I mean it.

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Was it's infuriating their personalities within that person.

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One percent. Like, I was completely blown away that they

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kept saying it was successful. Actually, Sidney Gottlieb, it was

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successful over and over again. This blew me away. Yeah,

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all right, so that puts us back to Oh, I

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do have an update actually in the William in the

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Peter Wilson case, the wrongful conviction. I received a new

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document that I just rendered an opinion on from his case.

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And this is just this blew me away, but it

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is the actual confession from from William Coleman stating that

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he had sex the night that Hawk Chuw Kim was killed.

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And this actually went missing. It was removed from the file.

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So we can actually see down here where it says

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removed from the file thirty first to March. This is

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the police officer Michael Yours handwriting where he removed this

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from the police file because it literally exculps Peter Wilson

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because he was in San Francisco in the hospital having

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his hand fixed when when Coleman actually had sex with

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Hawk Jew Kim. Now, I'm pretty sure that in this

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confection it's only half true. He probably raped her and

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killed her, which is why she ended up dead. But

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he's admitting to having consensual sex with her. Uh and

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and I think that was probably to explain a way

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they are going to find his semen in his in

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his fluids on her. Absolutely, just my jaw hit the

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floor when I saw this. You guys, this is absolutely insane.

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This man needs to be free, and I need to

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find an attorney who can help him with his rid

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of habeas corpus. Yeah, all right, from my message.

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There are I'm not dependent criminals, but as my husband

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always has its criminals.

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He doesn't know what we know that right, and it's

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harder to see explaining it just in five seconds to someone.

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So yeah, I mean, but like there literally is so

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many in person. I believe that we're probably in k

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ultra in some type of way into confessing to something

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that they didn't do well.

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And you have to imagine that that program took place,

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like nor said, in prisons, in mental hospitals, in universities

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San Francisco, New York, that there was a socialite aspect

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of it too, where socialites were using it on their

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male counterparts. So it runs.

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There's a portion of it as well that that I

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can verify from from multiple sources that that they still

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use in investigative interrogation purposes.

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Of course, if they if we think that this is

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ended simply because you know, mk ulture was shut down

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and Helms had all the you know, files destroyed, they

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just pick it up, call it another thing and continue on.

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I mean, I think it started as what paper Clip,

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then Artichoke, then Bluebird, and then mk ultra turned into

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Midnight Climax, like it just keeps evolving into a new

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program and you know, hidden a little bit better the

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next time. Ah, disgusting. Anyways, I do have some information

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that I pulled from my message board way back in

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twenty twelve when I was putting this presentation together, and

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it was information that Terry Batcher had actually pulled out

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or extracted from what he could in the files because

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he was well read on the John Benny Ramsey case.

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So I thought it would be prudent to kind of

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lay out what he believed to be the evidence before

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we get into all of the pictures. So it says

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one must read and double check things in the JBR

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case to be properly informed. There's a lot of info

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on the net, but some of it is just playing

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wrong and doesn't compare with the known evidence. This list

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is a work in progress by Terry Batcher. He says,

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oddit evidence in the Ramsey case pineapple found in the

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victims gi tracked bowl of fresh cut pineapple with large

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spoon discovered later on. Ramseys had no reason to deny

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that they fed that to her. Where if it were true? Yeah, again,

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that's not something I would see that they would even

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think to themselves, they'd have to have denied doing so

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why did they We didn't give that to her? Why

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is that there on the counter?

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Then?

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Who fed it to her? It was found in her system.

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There was a water glass with a tea bag in it,

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and a Kleenex box found next to the bull of pineapple.

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Ramsey said they knew nothing about it and again had

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no reason to lie about that. Black, I guess. And

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when I say some of these things, you're probably chomping

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at the bit to say that this is where your

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theory of somebody was sexually abusing her, that it had

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gone wrong. So that person may have been in their

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house and the Ramseys may have been very well aware

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of it, right, lindsay, Okay, so as well, and then

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they would have had a reason I suppose then to

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lie about the knowledge of those items because they very

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well knew who was eating or feeding. Yeah, yeah, they

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said that. He says the black duct tape found on

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the victim was never sourced, there was no role of

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it found in the house, and the duct tape had

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been recently manufactured, so it was a newer duct tape.

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Good morning, Nolan, Welcome to the show.

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Good morning. Everybody had technical difficulties to overcome them.

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Finally I had some this morning too, So no harm,

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no foul, haha. He went back and edited to add,

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in fact, it was a black gaffer's tape, which is

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a specialized tape that is more narrow than two inch

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duct tape. I also suspect that it was meant to

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serve as a mimic of the black Doahla's victims wounds.

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I'm not sure what he means by that, because I

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don't know where this tape was found on her. I

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don't know if it was on her face, on her hands.

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I just I don't know.

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I think the size of it makes it easier to

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use to bind someone. The duct tape was thicker, and

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it's not really for that.

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Purpose, right, especially small little hands. And again I don't

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know I mean when he's saying, mimic her wounds, black doll,

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you was cut from cheek to cheek, So is he

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indicating that this tape was on her mouth. She was

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cut in the abdomen, she was cut in the breast,

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she was bisected.

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All of this I don't understand.

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Yeah, yeah, I didn't either. He says. The tip of

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the paint brush used to break victim's himen and part

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of the garrett was never found. Which, yes, there was

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one third of the brush that was never found. Sharpie

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used to write the ransom note was of a much

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older manufactured date than other markers found in the home.

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Several pages on the tablet used to construct the ransom

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note and practice note were never found. Beaver hairs were

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found on the victim. Brown cotton glove fibers were found

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on the victim. Brown people bag type fibers found on

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victim's bed, perhaps from a cardboard tube used to carry

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the ransom note. I think these are just theories on

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his part. Some of it evidence. Victim was strangled twice.

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Second event was meant to kill her, and the blow

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to the head came when the victim was already dead,

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So that really kind of excludes Burke from having been

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the one who hit her out of rage because she

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was playing with his toy. You know, all these people

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have these theories about Burke being the culprit here, But

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if the damage to her skull didn't occurrence laughter she

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was strangled, we know it wasn't Burke. Again, he couldn't

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have created the Garrett and it would be more likely

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if she had suffered the head injury first then was strangled,

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that it could have been a possibility that the strangulation

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was a cover up for the head injury, but that's

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evidently not what the autopsy is saying.

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He's such a strange kid though, these very curious.

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Figure Oh well, I have an explanation for that, go ahead,

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because I think that he is weird like that because

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at the same time, John Beney was well before John Beney,

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I think that he was being sexually abused, not necessarily

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by the parents, but by others that and they knew

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about it. And so when he got and once Burke

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got older and John Benney got to the age where

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they like whatever, you know, then then they started doing

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it to her. And he was abandoned at that point

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and he was no longer being used, no longer being abused,

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but he had.

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Already went through all that trauma.

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So this would.

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Actually also.

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Give you that result of him feeling abandoned all the time,

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like he has said, and that and that people have

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wrote about him, how he was kind of like outcasted

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by when John Benney was the main figure in the

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family and everybody was like adoring over her, but then

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he was over here sitting by hisself, like just that

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to use as an analogy. So I think that that

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would make him feel that way, make him weird and

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act these different ways of because the trauma that he

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had experienced, not only you know, before John Beney or

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during John Benet when she up until she was six.

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But I think that he was slowly being you know,

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cut off being abused and no longer getting that attention,

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even though as we know, even though it's negative attention,

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but with a child, they don't understand at that age

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that you know, if they're not getting attention at all,

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any attention is going to satisfy their needs as a child, right.

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But I would think that his abandonment would also come

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in the lieu of the fact that the parents were

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under such strict or such scrutiny, you know, dealing with

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this legally. You know, all of the news reports, all

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the interviews all. I mean, he probably and coming from

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that type of a lifestyle. I don't know if they

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have to nanny, you know, it sounded to me like

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Patsy was pretty much home right.

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They had they had a housekeeper.

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A housekeeper is different than a nanny. So I imagine

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that with you know, some people that you know, they're

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so rich and they're so gone all the time that

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they literally have somebody else playing parent. It didn't appear

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that way to me based on you know, everything that

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we've seen throughout you know, the news and so forth.

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So his abandonment issues could be legitimately from the fact

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that his sister died and his parents went through what

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they went through, and of course then mom dies. You know,

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I want to say, well if he was wa yeah, yeah,

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there's a whole lot going on.

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There was some jealousy though too.

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There well, there, there there is. I mean, so sibil

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sibling rivalry is a real thing, right, I mean.

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I had I had a small a small brother, and

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he when I would go on the out when I

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was old enough to go spend the night with my

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friends on the weekend, or go do something with friends

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as a girl. You know, I feel like girls are

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more social in a way rather than boys at that age.

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And so and he was being him being almost four

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years younger than me, I was able to do things

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that he wasn't able to go off and do, and

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so he would definitely get jealous of and he would

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always he would tell my mom, it's not fair that.

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She's going off and doing things every weekend. I don't

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get to tell anything. I'm just sitting here, you know,

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Like he would complain.

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And then it got to a point where my mom

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had to be like, all right, you're not going anywhere

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this weekend because that's not fair to your brother, you know.

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And that would I mean, obviously that would make me mad.

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But I mean, yeah, I get it now looking back

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at it so well.

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And I mean John Benaoud received a lot, a lot

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of attention obviously as a beauty star, you know, a

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beauty pageant, little miss beauty queen. So she's receiving you know,

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all types of attention and gifts and awards. And I

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really don't know what Burke was up to But I

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would assume they would have had him in some type

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of sport or something that he could be doing that

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they didn't just cater to John Beney because she was beautiful, right, Yeah.

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So he goes on to say the stun gun marks

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on victim's neck and leg. Former detective Steve Thomas called

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the stun gun evidence make believe. Yet many experts confirm

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that nothing else explains the duplicate marks and spacing, and

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it is an exact fit to the airtaser brand. Edited

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to add this evidence may may tie into evidence that

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a second assailant may have been involved in this vicious murder.

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A copy of mind Hunter by John Douglas was found

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in Ramsey's home. Ramsey said they knew nothing about it

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and again had no reason to lie about it. So, okay,

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that's odd. A copy of a book in Danish was

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found in the home, but Ramsey said they knew nothing

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about it and had no reason to lie. He mentions

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that is JT sending a message with this. I tend

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to think so, but again I don't know what message

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he means by you know, a book of Danish. Victim

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was wrapped in a blanket but her legs and feet

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weren't covered. Victim's arms were both poised. I think he

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meant to say posed upwards, same as e short and

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the skeleton card and the spooky picture of Jack. Brown

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paper bag with rope in it found in the guest bedroom,

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same room overlooked the garage and rear entrance to garage.

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Edited to add I've recently discovered the significance of the

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brown paper bag mentioned on the ransom note, along with

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the cowgirl photo shoot that was that has rope at

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the feet of the victim, and the fact that a

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new pair of cowboy boots, along with a small suitcase

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with men's clothes in it, was found at their summer home.

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This is clear evidence of premeditation and stocking. Photo of

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the bed in the guest room shows that the dust

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ruffle was out of place in an otherwise tidy room,

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perhaps caused by a search for the victim. The public

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domain doesn't have detail on this. There's a red outline

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type heart shaped figure drawn on the life lines of

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the victim's hand. JT had a small red heart tattoo

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on his arm. I know this one was big for Terry.

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He used to you know, mention that Jack had this

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the red heart tattoo and this red heart on John

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Benney's hand, was leading him to believe that Jack committed

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this crime. But again, I think that Jack was a

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piece of this crime, not the whole crime. Barbie doll

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outfit was found near victim may have simply stuck to

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the blanket that she was wrapped in. Boulder PD claimed

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voices heard at the end of the nine to eleven

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nine to one to one tape, but the noise level

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was far too high for this to be a valid claim.

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Fleet White was said to have called nine one one

466
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:48.319
on the twenty third police arrived. His version of this

467
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.279
event is not in the public domain. So why would

468
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:55.519
fleet White call the police on the twenty third, that's

469
00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:59.160
two days before the murder. I'm not sure where he

470
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:03.640
was going with that. Are you aware of any of that, Lindsey?

471
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.079
I think that I think that he knew of something.

472
00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:09.279
I don't know what he knew, but he definitely knew

473
00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:12.279
more than he was saying. Because you know, as you

474
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:17.400
as you you may know, he had pretty much like

475
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:20.960
disassociated himself with John and all them after a while,

476
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:24.559
and they no longer communicated with each other.

477
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:30.200
Huh, oh, you mean after after the murder. Yeah, he

478
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:35.559
disassociated himself, gotcha, he says. He says upon arrival on

479
00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:37.680
the morning of the crime, fleet White looked in the

480
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.240
cellar room but claimed it was too dark in there.

481
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:44.960
He had been in the same windowless room on previous occasions.

482
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:47.759
Fleet White and his wife were the only friends of

483
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:50.759
the Ramseys to point suspicion at the Ramseys, and did

484
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:53.759
so repeatedly. I also found that odd. I mean, how

485
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:57.519
does your friend point you out? I mean, I don't

486
00:27:57.559 --> 00:27:57.960
know that.

487
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:02.400
He's the one that went in the basement with uh,

488
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.559
with John to find.

489
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.960
John Bennet ultimately finding Ye. Yes, but he claimed he

490
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:10.319
had been there and looked in and it was too dark,

491
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:16.759
which obviously was not true. Edited to add the stuffed

492
00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:19.279
toy jack rabbit found at the victim's grave is the

493
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.720
killer's calling card. The rope evidence is strongly linked to

494
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.599
the nineteen seventy eight death scene of Chris Bush as

495
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:30.200
he relates to the occ cases. The screaming boy drawing

496
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.240
found taped to his wall has several Zodiac killer markings

497
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:36.079
on it. On the desk was a VW. Rabbit brochure

498
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:38.960
in his otherwise tidy closet was a pile of rope

499
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:39.920
by a rope.

500
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.880
You remember back when we were talking about Bush that

501
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:45.759
murder that they found that rope. I remember me telling

502
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.079
you about that rope because I found that to be

503
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:51.279
looking like the same rope too.

504
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:54.839
Right, I wonder if that well, and you know we've

505
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:58.240
got the birope by Zodiac, so it does play into it.

506
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.519
By rope was an unfulfilled Zodiac killer threat O C. C. K.

507
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:06.720
Victim Jill Robinson's death was exactly twenty years to the

508
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:09.279
date earlier to the to the murder of John Bennet

509
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:14.160
and poetic anagram of their ages, date of birth and

510
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:15.920
date of deaths is uncanny.

511
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:19.880
Well, we know that.

512
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:22.519
I think that the Zodiac used a lot of jumatria

513
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:26.480
and uh in in in numerology.

514
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:31.200
So say that again, you.

515
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:34.960
Can lead things easily into and be able to uh

516
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:37.599
kind of connect things a lot of different things, like

517
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:40.359
in general with with numerology.

518
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:41.440
And he knew that.

519
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.680
He knew that, and that it's and I use symbolism

520
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:47.799
uh in their cults and in their in in the

521
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:49.200
even in in the government.

522
00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:51.160
So and he knew that.

523
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:55.759
Yeah, Well, and we know that you know, decoding and

524
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.920
and these anniversary dates and these you know, the timings

525
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:01.559
of the killings all, you know, either led back to

526
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:04.359
some type of that's why they, you know, look at

527
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:07.319
this like it's a zodiac and constellations and based on

528
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:09.519
where the sun is or what have you, which is

529
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:13.160
another one of those theories that they've thrown out there

530
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.799
to confuse us, kind of like the Colt issues. They

531
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.759
want to talk about the Colts, But I think Nor

532
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.960
was probably the first person I seen who coesively connected

533
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:28.680
everything from Jonestown and Manson to all of this, these

534
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.400
other entities that we've talked about that we that I

535
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:34.519
feel are part of what the zodiac is really all about.

536
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:40.480
Some additional evidence that and some of this might be repetitive,

537
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:43.359
but some of it is not. So A summary of

538
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:46.599
the basic autopsy facts regarding John Binney's torture and murder

539
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:50.279
by Terry Batcher. She suffered two strangulation events via a

540
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:54.279
noose made from flat white bards similar to early military

541
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:58.839
parachute type of bard and a broken portion Your background

542
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:04.759
noise is really loud right now, girls, Okay? Cool? Which

543
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:09.359
U see military parachute type of cord and a broken

544
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.559
portion of a paintbrush handle which had a rather sophisticated

545
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:15.079
wrapping of the cord around the handle, which acted as

546
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:18.759
a knot. She left marks from her fingernails on her

547
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:20.920
neck as she clawed at the noose, which meant that

548
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:23.599
while she was being strangled, she was still currently alive

549
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.400
at that point in time. Yes, she probably let out

550
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:28.599
a scream that funneled out of the front of the house.

551
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.720
It wasn't realized until her autopsy that she had been

552
00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:33.799
hit very hard on the back of the head, so

553
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.079
hard and probably with a big, long cop shop type

554
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:40.359
of maglight that it drove a two y three centimeter

555
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:43.119
portion of bone inward and cracked her skull all the

556
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:45.400
way around and over the top of her eye socket.

557
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:52.119
Is it right, Yeah, gnar, that's absolutely gnarly.

558
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:52.359
So.

559
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:55.920
She says she had less than a teaspoon of blood

560
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:58.519
in her cranium, which is only part of the evidence

561
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:01.279
that demonstrates that the primary cause of death was via

562
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:04.599
the noose aka the garrett. This list of facts and

563
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:06.599
the stun gun marks found on her face and leg,

564
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:09.319
which is a fact which was established by the late

565
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:12.160
detective Louce Smith, proves that she was tortured while alive,

566
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.359
and remains further destroyed and defiled after she was dead.

567
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:19.160
Shards of the paintbrush handle were found in her vagina,

568
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.960
along with other crime scene evidence. The portion of the

569
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:25.119
handle used on her vagina went missing. All of the

570
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:27.720
above facts, coupled with the murder note evidence makes it

571
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:29.920
clear that her murder was no accident, nor did it

572
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:35.880
stem from an accident. So that information, once again I think,

573
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:41.599
esculpts Burke from being the suspect. Hands down. That had

574
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:42.720
to be done by an adult.

575
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:48.400
Yeah, yeah, I think that that does. But I don't

576
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:53.000
believe a lot of the things that Lousmith believed. As

577
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:56.799
far as this the stun gun, I think that that

578
00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:01.920
was maybe possibly used to cover after the fact. It

579
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.400
was it used to control her.

580
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:08.119
I would think that the bruising that came from it,

581
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:12.079
if it was done after the fact, wouldn't have happened, right,

582
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:15.640
Just like he said that the the teaspoon of what

583
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.599
did he say there was? Yeah, a teaspoon of blood

584
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.720
was found in her cranium from that actual so that

585
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.160
meant that blood was not pumping at that point in time.

586
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:27.880
I think that you would have had that same issue

587
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.519
if you had stun gun to her after the fact

588
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:32.200
versus before she died.

589
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:36.480
When I'm not saying but after she died, I'm saying

590
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:43.160
after she was starting to they were starting to molest her.

591
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.440
That they used the sun gun to control her.

592
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:49.119
Yeah, like kind of not not control her, but like

593
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.119
you know how these people are, They're they're sick that

594
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.720
it just to like mess with her to get her

595
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:59.640
to make an effect that would excite them.

596
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:05.279
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah. Even thinking about that, well, that

597
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:07.519
also brings me to one of your emails that I

598
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.760
received from you back on January fourth, and it says, oh,

599
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:14.079
and to add to the previous email, John Benet's grandfather,

600
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:18.639
John Ramsey's father named James Dudley j Raim Ramsey was

601
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:21.679
the one who helped fund, build and construct the airstrip

602
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.639
runway for private planes to land on North Fox Island,

603
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:29.000
which is the pedophile island that was shut down. You said,

604
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:32.039
how freaking insane if this shit isn't a Satanic power

605
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.280
kill group network, people working together with each other under

606
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.840
the CIA and with the help of mk Ultra program

607
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.679
as well to create these serial killers along the way,

608
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:43.960
adding to their kill groups. The more you dig, the deeper,

609
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.360
the whole gets and I swear it never ends ever.

610
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:51.800
So yeah, let's see.

611
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:59.719
Yeah, when you don't go for sleep for like several years,

612
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:03.280
two hours a day and you're so deep in research

613
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:05.960
and you literally see it all in by real time,

614
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:09.639
it's like, well, how can anyone not see this? But

615
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:12.639
I mean, I get one because of so many years

616
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:14.280
of them doing it.

617
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:17.280
But it's like, I mean, that's a wrap up.

618
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:21.679
I'm at the beginning of this. Nolan I discussed a

619
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:24.079
podcast that Lindsay had sent over to me, and her

620
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:29.199
name is nor Jasmine. First name is noo R. She

621
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:32.159
did about a forty to fifty minute podcast where she

622
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.719
literally shows all the connectivity of everything that we talk

623
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:41.599
about very succinctly with valid research and paperwork from the

624
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:47.039
mk Ultra program that shows how the possibility of Jonestown

625
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:50.559
and Manson and all of these being CIA created cults

626
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:54.559
through the mk Ultra program. It was absolutely phenomenal. I'm

627
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:55.079
gonna see it.

628
00:35:55.119 --> 00:36:00.159
Black Manson and Jim Jones both started out in.

629
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:04.960
San Francisco, right we know, mk Ultra was operated in

630
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:06.559
San Francisco.

631
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:11.199
And yeah, and at a particular health care facility that

632
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:14.679
Manson was told by his parole officer to go visit

633
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:19.360
and that's hee'd Ashbury Free Clinic. Well, you know what

634
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:23.760
was interesting is that she kept calling the the doctor

635
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:29.360
that was running this mister Jolly, which I thought was yeah,

636
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:35.639
Jolly West and this mind control a little bit right like.

637
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:41.039
But he was affiliated with that particular health care facility,

638
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:43.639
and we know that mk Ulture was employed at mental

639
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:51.280
health clinics and hospitals, prison at the clinic. Yeah, yeah,

640
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:54.079
he was definitely connected. So she she really kind of

641
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:56.920
steers away from saying it is what it is, but

642
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:59.440
she just throws out the facts so that you can

643
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:03.280
form your own opinion. And really through her research, she's

644
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:06.079
come to the same conclusion that I have just going

645
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:09.519
through these letters in these communications from these serial killings,

646
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:13.280
which is absolutely insane to me. Yeah, all right, so

647
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:16.360
now we have some pictures. Once again, I think that

648
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:18.880
they're always cramming in your face the truth, but they

649
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:21.119
do it in such a subtle way that we accept

650
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:23.880
little bits of it and sometimes don't even recognize it.

651
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:28.440
So I was given a True Crime Unsolved Mysteries magazine

652
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:31.760
for my birthday one year because the individual knew that

653
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:35.719
I studied and researched on the Zodiac Killer, and so

654
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:39.400
I found it interesting to see and note that we

655
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:42.559
had John Bna Ramsay right next to the Zodiac Killer's picture.

656
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:48.679
We also have Bob Crane, who I have shown and supported,

657
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:51.960
and I think even Harriet has stated that this murder

658
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:55.239
was part of his murder was also something that was

659
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:59.039
part of this group. So again we have the all

660
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:02.639
these people being employed on this true Crime Unsolved Mysteries

661
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:05.480
magazine that's being sold. I want to say this thing

662
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:09.239
was like, how much was this fifteen ninety nine Canadian

663
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:12.599
and thirteen ninety nine US, so fourteen dollars a pop.

664
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:14.920
Who knows how many they sold, but I'm sure it

665
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:21.960
flew off the shelves anyways, right, I probably wouldn't have

666
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.559
because that meant that I was, you know, supporting them,

667
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:26.719
but it was nice for my friend who have gotten

668
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:31.360
it for me. Here we have some pictures, and we're

669
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:33.239
going to see some of the evidence and pictures of

670
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:36.239
John Benny Ramsey as we go through this. And I

671
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:38.760
did pull a lot of this was pulled from the

672
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:43.320
docuseries that I watched, So let's see here, This says

673
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:48.360
Boulder City spokesperson Leslie Aholm. Later that day, John Ramsey,

674
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:52.000
a former Navy officer, piloted about a dozen relatives on

675
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.679
his private jet to Georgia, where the family had lived

676
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:58.440
before moving to Colorado in nineteen ninety one. So now

677
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:02.360
we have support that John is also a pilot, which

678
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:05.639
kind of tracks with Lindsay telling us that his dad

679
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:10.800
built runways. That kind of like led me though to

680
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:13.440
the point where I know that the maid stated that

681
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:17.119
she had never seen this parachute cord that was used

682
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:20.440
in the garrett and strangulation of John Benny Ramsey. But

683
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:23.679
it wouldn't be out of character for parachute cord to

684
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:25.880
be around, especially if John was a pilot, I would

685
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:30.440
assume that he had parachutes, right Yep. Now, maybe not

686
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:36.119
in the house, but evidently it was trips too on

687
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:41.480
boats and stuff, right. But I'm just I was just

688
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:45.360
addressing that the parachute cord that Terry Batcher had indicated

689
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:48.960
was not from the home. It could have been from

690
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:52.199
the plane, could have been something that the Ramseys had

691
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.239
in possession or downstairs in the basement for whatever reason

692
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:57.239
that the maid was just unaware of. I don't know.

693
00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.000
I'm just stating if he was a pilot. There's chances

694
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:01.280
there are parachutes involved.

695
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.960
Oh yeah.

696
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.320
And then we got the Star Magazine, which I thought

697
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:12.239
is interesting. So I saw something posted not too long

698
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:16.000
ago that discussed, you know, the fake news that we

699
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:19.760
used to get from things like the Inquirer or Star Magazine.

700
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:22.800
And we know that the Zodiac wrote to the Star

701
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.880
Magazine at one point. So yes, there is some some

702
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:29.719
truth I think in these while there's also these outlandish

703
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:33.519
statements making us or causing us to question what whether

704
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:36.039
or not we can believe what we're reading. And sometimes

705
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:38.079
I feel like they had the first day I right,

706
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:42.079
I mean, didn't they create photos that weren't real and

707
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:45.280
then post them? Yeah?

708
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:50.559
I have this technology way, I mean decades probably before

709
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:51.639
we release it to.

710
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:55.559
Us, right right, right, right, yeah, So people can understand

711
00:40:55.639 --> 00:41:01.000
now that this is where AI began, right with these tabloids.

712
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:08.280
Aside, recently I watched the movie Gypsy about Gypsy rose Lee,

713
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.840
the famous back in the day famously, I started out

714
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.639
as vaudeville company and Gypsy rose Lee wasn't even that

715
00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:21.719
far that the little sister was the star of the

716
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:22.519
vaudeville act.

717
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.599
And she looked just like Jamminet Ramsey.

718
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:30.679
And how old is that curly hair cut?

719
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.480
And the movie is called Gypsy with Natalie Wood.

720
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:36.000
Okay, but how old.

721
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:39.440
Is the guy? Oh it's from the sixties.

722
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:42.000
Oh yes, that little girl.

723
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:47.639
Yes, that is another rabbit about that girl.

724
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.320
Yes, so she was in the movie and then ended

725
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:51.760
up dead.

726
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.000
She developed over the years.

727
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:57.159
But I'm just saying, John Maine Ramsey looks just like

728
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.320
that character in the movie when she was younger, she

729
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:03.559
gets older, they both like Natalie Wood is played by

730
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:06.599
a well, she plays a boy in one of the acts,

731
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:10.679
because the character that was Natalie would same character was

732
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:13.400
was younger, but then she gets older into her teens.

733
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:15.280
Then Natalie Wood takes over the role.

734
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.880
So this several different people, but the original when they

735
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:24.199
first started the movie, when the act was shown, it

736
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:27.360
was this little girl is the star and doing things

737
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:29.239
just like John ban Any Ramsey did. It was like

738
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.079
her look almost seems like it was patterned after that

739
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:32.679
little girl.

740
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.599
Oh, I see what you're saying. Somebody had commented, and

741
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:38.280
I know that you missed this at the beginning, but

742
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:41.760
they commented that John Benne Ramsey wasn't dead. She was

743
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:45.599
sold to Hollywood and she's now Katie Perry. Oh right,

744
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:51.039
I asked him. I asked them if they believed in

745
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:53.960
five G as well, and they retorted back, yes they do.

746
00:42:54.039 --> 00:43:02.119
It's killing us. I went, I nailed that one I knew.

747
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.119
I do believe that there are people, Don't get me wrong.

748
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:08.159
I believe there are people who have sensitivity to electrical

749
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:12.480
apparatuses and technology and things like that. Like that's very

750
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.960
proven that some people's bodies can't stand you know, the

751
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:20.599
megahertz or the radio waves or whatever it is that's

752
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:26.599
you know, happening with microwaves in technology. But to the

753
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:29.039
extent that it's killing all of us, I think that

754
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.639
would really be a detriment to the cell phone companies

755
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:34.159
to kill off all of their their customers.

756
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.199
With the tobacco companies, well.

757
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:42.480
But that's I think that's slightly different because you're not

758
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.760
going to kill an entire population, whereas five G is everywhere,

759
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:49.719
you literally would kill an entire population. Like that's and

760
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.320
again with tobacco, obviously it's whether or not your body

761
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:58.840
suspect susceptible obviously to cancerous type things. Some people smoke

762
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:00.360
all their lives and never have answer.

763
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:07.760
And I know, I know why that is because because

764
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.519
just like you said, not only that, but most people

765
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:15.360
are not gonna get canced almost I would say four

766
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:18.239
out of five people are not gonna get cancer from

767
00:44:18.280 --> 00:44:24.679
cigarettes because your body can The reason why, the reason

768
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:27.360
why we have these people that say that they're addicted,

769
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:31.159
well they can be in a way that your body

770
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:34.920
is not producing enough tobacco because now many people know this,

771
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:40.360
but our bodies actually produce a hormone of tobacco naturally.

772
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:44.079
So just to say, if you're vitamin deficient of like

773
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:47.880
vitamin D or something, you're gonna go take vitamin D vitamins. Well,

774
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:50.480
the same thing with tobacco. But you don't see these

775
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:54.639
doctors like saying that the tobacco is a problem because

776
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:58.440
your body doesn't make enough tobacco for this particular uh

777
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:03.360
mchanical mechanism to fight off this or that, because they

778
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:06.480
don't think that it it matters obviously, and it would

779
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:11.199
defeat the purpose of the whole cigarette vacuum industry.

780
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:12.800
So it makes sense.

781
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:15.320
Like I didn't know that either until when I figured

782
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:17.440
that out, I was like, well, that would make sense

783
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:22.440
why people are addicted in quotations, because maybe they're they're

784
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:26.440
that particular person's body is not producing an adequate amount

785
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:28.320
of tobacco and they crave it.

786
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:31.320
Yes, So that's what I'm saying.

787
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:34.360
If your body is creating that, that's not what's giving

788
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:34.880
them cancer.

789
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.079
It's what else they put in them, putting.

790
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:39.320
Yea or add to it, I was gonna say. And

791
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:43.840
everybody's individual, and no two people react the same to anything.

792
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:46.239
What might cause cancer in one person will not cause

793
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:49.800
cancer in another person. So back to John Bennet real quick.

794
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.039
We have John, but at the top of the Star magazine,

795
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:54.920
John and a Dad link to kitty porn's scandal. Truth

796
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:57.800
or fiction, right, We're getting it from a tabloid. We're

797
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:01.679
not supposed to believe because it's just fantastical. But we

798
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:04.679
have these claims that are being made to being linked

799
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:08.960
to a kiddie porn scandal. I did pull out some

800
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:13.199
handwriting from the images. I believe that this one was

801
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:19.679
actually Patsy Ramsey's handwriting. What I'm concerned about is I

802
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.559
think I'm fairly sure that they put in front of

803
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:26.559
her and asked her to write this way. And some

804
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:29.559
people when you do that. So when I ask a

805
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:33.599
client or a suspect to give me samples of handwriting.

806
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:36.840
I do not give them the image or the note

807
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.679
that is involved. I break these words down in different ways.

808
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:44.159
I make different sentences using the same words, so that

809
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:47.800
they're not so consciously thinking of the actual note itself

810
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.599
that they're being accused of writing, that they're now writing

811
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:54.880
more naturally. In comparison to this looks almost as if

812
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:56.400
it was sat right in front of her and she

813
00:46:56.519 --> 00:47:00.039
just attempted to mimic it. I mean, she doesn't. It

814
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:02.760
doesn't spell business business with two s's in the middle,

815
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:05.719
So how did she come up with that unless she

816
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:10.079
was staring at the actual ransom note, it doesn't make

817
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:12.599
any sense. I wouldn't ask somebody to spell the word

818
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.159
wrong if that's not how they spell the word right,

819
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:17.320
I mean, spell it the way you normally spell it,

820
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:23.400
because that is a ruse. Up there another one. It

821
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:26.760
looked to me as though this was being purported as

822
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:29.840
actual evidence. I'm not sure if it is. I do

823
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:33.360
find several differences between this writing and the writing that

824
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:36.239
we have been shown on the Internet, which tells me

825
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:38.880
that either the writing we're seen on the internet has

826
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:42.159
been altered or this is not truly the note that

827
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:46.159
is being purported as evidence and in the property of

828
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:53.679
the police department. Well, we're down no. And I've said

829
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:56.440
on many occasions that it looks as though they've altered

830
00:47:56.559 --> 00:48:01.519
and changed the looks of the ZODEAC handwriting for the

831
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:05.119
purpose of the Internet. And we know that the FOYA

832
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:08.840
files with the FDI it is intentionally distorted. So if

833
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:11.480
anybody even goes into those files, you're not pulling an

834
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:15.880
actual legitimate note. It's been altered in such a way

835
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:20.559
that it's been squished down and oddly shaped, not even

836
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:23.000
something that a scan would have done. So this wasn't

837
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:25.800
something that happened through the scanning process. They had to

838
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:28.239
manipulate it after they scanned it in to make it

839
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:28.880
look like that.

840
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:31.800
Or scan it fifteen times.

841
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:35.119
It scanned the same the scan page that they print,

842
00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:37.480
scan it several times.

843
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:41.039
But it's not going to cause the distortion and the

844
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:46.320
alterations that you see. But it's trying. I've shown I've

845
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:50.239
shown the images of the FOYA files next to Internet

846
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:52.679
letters and you can see the distinct differences in them,

847
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:56.039
and they're the distortion had to be manipulated on purpose

848
00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:59.480
after the scan was done. Period. No amount of scanning

849
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:03.400
is going to call. So that's pretty much. I think

850
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:07.079
we're down to our last minute here. I want to

851
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:09.880
thank everybody again for being here. Go tech, check out

852
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:13.840
nor Jasmine, like I said, n as a Nancy R

853
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:16.559
Jasmine and see what she has to say in her

854
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:20.000
forty fifty minute little stint there. It is absolutely shocking

855
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:23.599
and interesting to see aligned so well with what we're

856
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:29.440
talking about. Thank you guys for being here. Yeah. Yeah,

857
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:31.880
So everybody, have a wonderful weekend, and we'll see you

858
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:32.519
next Friday.

859
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:35.599
Yes, and man, I can tell you about I'll tell

860
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:39.079
y'all next time about the book I've read on one

861
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:40.440
of the detectives that wrote it.

862
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:44.280
Okay about the Yeah, because we're still going through this,

863
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:46.480
we'll hit some more pictures and some more evidence, and

864
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:48.880
then we'll talk about John Carr, John Mark Cars. We'll

865
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:50.960
be in it for a minute, ah in it to

866
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.079
wait itIt. Guys, have a great weekend. Bye bye.

867
00:49:54.159 --> 00:50:16.159
I