Sept. 12, 2025

Jack is on the Road Again

Jack is on the Road Again
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More Walsh connections led us to interesting people based on Lindsay’s research which takes us into a direction very familiar. Meanwhile, Jack is frolicking all over the place while separated from Nora. Once they get back together, the move is back on and seems to follow more gruesome unsolved murders. Is it a coincidence that Jack seems to be following them or are they following Jack?

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Good Morning, True Seekers and true crime junkies. Welcome back

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to another episode of Hit the Roadjack Finding the Zodiac.

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I'm going to start by welcoming to the show. Nolan

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del Campo, good morning, everybody, Good morning, and then Lindsay mcbrair,

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good morning, good morning. Wow. Have we had like one

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of the most chaotic weeks that, like MARKA could have

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ever seen right right that, I definitely was manic on

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a couple days, just in shock. I felt like it

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was nine to eleven all over again this week, just

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kind of rolling over the thoughts in your head, moving

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on autopilot, not really sure what's going on around you.

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Definitely scary for society in general. I did want to

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start out with obviously we are on nine to twelve,

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which is the day after nine to eleven, So of

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course I wanted to read a couple things that kind

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of moved me this week in light of the events

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of Charlie Kirk. And I don't know if you guys

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have heard of the Irena Karuska event that in North Carolina,

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And of course Charlie Kirk is really kind of taking

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the forefront in the media, and the IRENA's Rootska case

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is a little bit more downplayed. But I do have

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some friends that posted information, so I quickly looked up

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some of that stuff last night. Now, I'm going to

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start by saying it's not that I necessarily agree with

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everything that Charlie k Kirk had to say, but he

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didn't deserve to die as most people are kind of

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you know, talking about right now, one of the things

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that I saw from yesterday was a concert that Jelly

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Roll participated in. Now, this Big Teddy Bear, I think

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I just love him because the messages in his songs

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are great. Are both familiar with Jelly Roll?

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Oh yeah, I love him, love him a couple.

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Of his songs.

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Okay, so it says last night in Nashville, Jelly Roll

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delivered a moment so powerful left an entire stadium breathless

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in the middle of his set, just as the music

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thundered and the lights blazed, he suddenly stopped holding the

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micro phone closed. His voice rang out across the crowd,

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asking everyone to join him in a one minute moment

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of silence for Charlie Kirk and the innocent lives lost

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on nine to eleven. Then silence. More than twenty five

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thousand people stood still, no cheers, no music, only reverence.

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A single minute passed, heavy with sorrow, yet radiant with unity.

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When the silence ended, Jellyroll lifted his voice, soft at first,

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then rising strong. He began to sing God Bless America.

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The crowd erupted, tens of thousands of voices soaring together,

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filling the night sky with a chorus of hope and pride.

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American flags waved high, tears streamed down faces. What had

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been silence became a tidal wave of song, spirit, and

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unbreakable togetherness. Jellyroll didn't just pause a concert. He transformed

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it into a sacred tribute, a reminder of loss, resilience,

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and the grace of a nation standing as one now

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that almost wanted to bring me to tears because it

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reminds me of things like Bob Marley, Elvis press Lee,

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John Lennon. Oh gosh, I forgot the next person's name,

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those that could bring the masses together, basically that their

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lives were ended early. And of course jfk Yes, anybody

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who could bring and unite us seems to have been

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taken away from us at one point or another. And

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when I was reading about the Charlie Kirk stuff, it

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had mentioned that he may possibly have been our next

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president at some point, that he may have been being

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groomed for this, that he had a good shot for this.

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So of course that always takes me back to what

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we see happening in these presentations, where they can make

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and they can break you. There was a couple other

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things that I wanted to read off here, and one

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of them was another statement or another posting by an

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individual that says they want you split left versus right,

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red versus blue. It's the oldest trick in the book.

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Divide, distract into power while lives are lost in grief

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is real. Don't mistate tragedy for tribal loyalty. No politician

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is your friend. They serve power, not people grieve. The

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human cost question, the narrative and refuse to be weaponized

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that rope as well.

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Yeah.

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One of my more recent friends, who is the drummer

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for the Young Dubliners, posted, I miss nine twelve and

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here we are on nine twelve. He said, I would

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never ever want another nine to eleven, but I missed

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the America of nine to twelve.

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Stores ran out.

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Of flags to sell because they were being flown everywhere.

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People were Americans before they were upper or lower class,

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Jewish or Christian, Republican or Democrat. We hugged people without

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caring if thinking it should play over nineties on nine

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to twelve. What mattered more was what united us than

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what divided us.

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Goose bumps. God, So I would like to just take

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a couple seconds of silence here for the nine to

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eleven events and the anniversary that occurred yesterday. All right, Yeah,

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little tears in my eyes, me too, right, I just

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I'm Awestrack.

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I was in third grade.

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Oh wow, I remember.

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I remember in the classroom we were listening to the

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radio because my teacher had a boombox and we were

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listening to all that going on.

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You no, thank god.

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That's where he was. He was in an elementary.

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School, yeah, right, and the right and then that followed

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by the anthrax attacks, which occurred I believe September eighteenth,

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and for maybe the next following week these letters had

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gone out, And of course it has been determined that

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the anthrax mailings were not a fact or sacked like

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it was led to believe in the letters, that it

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was actually an American strain of anthrax, that the letter

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was written by an American just went over. Well, I

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haven't gone over the profile of that yet. I'd hoped

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to have that available today for the graphology part of

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the actual letters that were written by the author, but

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we will get to that and probably more likely once

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we enter that realm in two thousand and one. Either way, real.

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Quick, before I wanted just to mention that one of

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the first people that was in the media reporting on

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nine to eleven was John Walsh, and he covered the

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entire special that night or that day at the next

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day that was on NBC, that two hour special of

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that if you guys remember, it's still out there.

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I actually have a copy of it.

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And he covered the entire two hours of that special

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that he did right after.

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Right, and that was I guess a lot of disinformation

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as well. We weren't certainly meant to have the truth

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of that. We may not even be alive when that

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information is finally released. Kind of like MK, we're never

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going to get the full truth of now you other, No,

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you certainly not, and interestingly enough that you make that statement.

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Of course, we're trying to We're trying to show this

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cross connection of him doing the Zodiac with Tom Voyd

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and Bart Baggett, and then the Zodiac reaching out to

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both Tom Void and to John Walsh, the circle that

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this or that connects these things together. And I think

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that when I skipped across the Anthrax mailings during my

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examinations of all of these cases, I was kind of

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throwing around the theory at that point in time that

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Jack had recently been turned into the FBI in two

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thousand and that in two thousand and one, if he

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was called back to duty to do something like this,

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it was probably in exchange for living out the balance

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of his life. It's kind of the way I felt. Yeah,

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So I do think that correct, Correct, That's what they do.

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That's how they treat the CIA informosts too.

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You in my conversations with the guy that did the

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profile on the anthrax mailings had indicated that many of

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these these scientists were kind of a little tweaked out

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in the minds themselves, and you know, like likely suspects.

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And I think that she even alluded to the fact

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that she believed that Bruce Ivery's was a good suspect

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for it. But I think that we can see that

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he and she may not know all of the backstory. Again,

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she even though she's done the profiles, she's not researched

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the cases like I have done. And and when she

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makes the comment that she believes that he could possibly

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be the one, it kind of floors me because he

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when the FBI came out and tried to close the

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case on him, I believe was twenty thirteen, and Congress

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came back a week later and did a press conference

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saying that you're not closing the case on Ivans. He

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doesn't match the m O, the handwriting doesn't match. There

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was no real solid evidence to show her support that

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he was. It was just speculation and circumstantial. But that

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to me showed me that Congress cared more about solving

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the case than closing the case. Yes, one percent so,

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and that may not be something that she knows or understands.

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So when she says to me that she believes he

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was a good suspect for it, he may have been.

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And if scientists are all a little quirky, they may

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very well have some of these graphological traits that says

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they could. But the difference again is between whether or

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not you step over that line and actually do it correct.

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Just a brief aside.

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You know, the Sacramento be was when the leading publications

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in the country to do a big investigation on the

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anthrax and they were of the P and L.

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It wasn't for sure, it wasn't.

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Ivans right, And of course the talk here around town

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in Sacramento was, and I remember it vividly, people saying

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that that's the Zodiac's writing. And I thought, you guys

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are all nuts, Like you can't really be talking about

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the Zodiac. He's a serial killer from forty years ago.

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What in the world would he have to do with this?

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And then lo and behold, through the research that I've completed,

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it shows that he can be a likely suspect and

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one should look at that. And if you think about

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the mo of a serial killer who starts with baby

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steps and children, weak women, older women, and then moves

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his way into couples with males involved, and then trickles

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back down to children and then before we know it,

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into anthrax. It would be the perfect progression and evolution

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of a serial killer to then in his end days,

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be able to perpetrate the continuance of killing people, but

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in a method that's less evasive to him.

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A participant in the overall scheme.

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I think that other people involved in connected and high places,

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it's another crime they don't really want solved.

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That's why they always want to pin it on a

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loan person.

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And they today ye Otis like Otis O'Toole and Henry

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Lee Lucas. So there's no coincidence that we're about to

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climb back into the John Walsh connections that Lindsay has

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provided and that these two individuals happen to have been

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part of a major conspiracy to close hundreds of cases

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across the United States on somebody who didn't actively commit

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those crimes, and the push to get public to believe that.

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And in the end we figured it out, which this

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is why these suspects fell to the wayside, because we

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did figure it out as Americans are, we are pretty

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smart and if we do remember the past, which I

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think most people fail to because they're so busy with

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everyday life. But when you do remember the past and

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you put those pieces together, you start to recognize where

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all of it is coming from. Yeah, all right, so

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we left off.

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At yeah for sure, right, focus on one guy to

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be the wrong eye and then be distubborn to admit

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you were wrong exactly.

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And it is true that age does provide.

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Wisdom and uh, you know, being able to understand things more.

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And history is narrated by the individuals who want America

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to believe what they want us to believe. I remember

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growing up always thinking that Christopher Columbus founded America, right,

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and that knows has long since been dispelled.

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But they're still teaching it there.

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And there's a good portion of the population that thinks

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lead Rby Oslod was alone assassin right right.

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Yeah, Well, without the time to be able to research

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and dive into these things, that makes it nearly impossible

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for most to even you know, claim on board with

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the truth.

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It's well, and then the way that I do it,

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the way that I have.

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Tried to do it, and have continued is each year,

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each grade that you know my daughter.

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Goes into because my son just got he just got

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Starter school this year, so you know, first the first

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year doesn't really matter, but that first grade is where

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I started to Okay, what'd you learn today?

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What'd you learn in history? What'd you learn in science?

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And then breaking those things down for her each year

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has really made her understand things way more and be

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able to discern what is true.

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And what is not.

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Even though she's been taught something, she's been able to

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break it down herself. At this point, she's in six

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sixth grade now and that and she'll come home and say, well,

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this is what we learned it. I know that's not

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true because we know such and such like literally and

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I have. I'm going to continue to do that because

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it has literally helped her break things down and have

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that discernment for her own self to think and say

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and question things like no, this is not this can't

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be you know what I mean? And then later on

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in her life she's going to appreciate that and be

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able to put things together so much easier and be

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able to discern so much like it's.

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Nothing correct and is she learning cursive writing. Yes, absolutely,

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one hundred percent. The best thing you can do for

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your children is to ensure that they learn cursive whether

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your schools are teaching it or not. It teaches the

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brain to work in a diversified pattern that allows it

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to think five steps ahead, and so removing that from

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the school system is really dumb down the population of

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a couple decades. Actually, because it went out in about

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ninety six, we're starting to see it slowly but surely

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roll back in. So thank you for that. All right,

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So back to the murders. On April eighth, nineteen ninety two,

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we had Robin Fuldauer in Indianapolis show shoe store clerk.

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This is part of the ICE seventy murders. I did

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put in there that I need to research these murders

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because I've not done any research on them, but it

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is in the general location. We have April eleventh of

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nineteen ninety two, Patricia Majors or Patricia Smith in Wichita,

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Kansas at a bridal shop. We know that there is

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a relation to Kansas for Jack shot after being pushed

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into the back room. Again, it's part of the I

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seventy murders, and it seems to follow suit with these

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little shop murders as I'm going to call them, because

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we saw the yogurt shop murders that occurred in Texas.

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When Jack has left Nora, or maybe Laura left him,

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I don't know the story. Either way, they've separated, Jack

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is back in Texas and we start to see this

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series of little shops and murders that are occurring in them.

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So in the after so it says he's shot after

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being pushed back into a room Patricia was, but that

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the suspect let a witness go after being seen, and

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it was a male customer. So I do think we

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owned that last week. But and then on April sixteenth

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and nineteen ninety two, we had the murder of a

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Hispanic woman named Maria Carmen della Strada. Now this has

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been identified as being killed by Anthony Allan Shore. There's

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reference to a partner named Alan in the Oakland County Childbirders.

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We know the relation that they tried to make between

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Arthur Lee Allen and the Zodiac. So it made me

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wonder whether or not this Anthony Allan Shore was an

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acquaintance of Jacks, because he happens to be in the

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same area, and in the two thousand and five finale letter,

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the author mentions that he's not the only person who's

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killing in Texas at this time, that there's somebody else

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that is killing the Hispanics and the Oriental. So it's

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definitely something to ponder. So this has been brought into

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the display because Jack recognized, like I said, this killer

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in two thousand and five. I believe that the confession

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letter to Tim Miller is from Jack. I will still

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maintain that Tim Miller checked back in with me about

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a year and a half, almost two years ago to

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find out whether or not. I still believe that Jack

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was the Zodiac, which I then confirmed once again realizing

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that he had taken out a case against his primary

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suspect and one for a wrongful death suit. I think

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that he was very much so questioning his own acts

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against this individual as the possible killer of his daughter.

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So if he's questioning it, then that tells me that

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he is not solid on the answers that he needs

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to feel satisfied about what occurred to with his daughter.

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So you're saying a civil suit against as a suspected

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killer but was convicted in a criminal case.

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He know, he was not convicted in a criminal case,

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was a civil suit for wrongful death and he won

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something like I think fourteen million. Dog Clyde his name

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was clydeof I'd have to go back to it to

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see if you look at the guy. I mean, he

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doesn't look worthy of a pot.

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He was like a neighbor or something.

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Yeah, he was somebody on the street that she used

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to walk on and she said he just creepy. Yeah,

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but Kah doesn't brought a line of murderous. So yea again, Now,

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these I think that a lot of the things that

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you provided me this last week, but I email are

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things that we have gone over before. But I always

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feel like it's worth repeating. Since we're just now coming

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off of the letters of the Scorpion issues, and I

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noticed that we had in here. I think that this

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one was where we had discussed this first article was

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where we discussed the theory of him working for or

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not wanting to transport drugs for the Bahama cartel. Correct. Yeah,

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so when we moved over into the Allen Riverbank ventures,

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this is kind of Oh, John Denver, that was the

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fourth name I meant to think of and Allen Riverbart

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just kind of brought that into play. This particular article

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talks about I believe him being in an airplane crash, correct, yeah,

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small small.

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Plane, Oh yeah, small.

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The one that had to went to identify the people

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that crashed was John Monahan, and that was John's boss

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at the Diplomat Hotel in Hollywood, Florida. Well one also

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the one who identified Adam's head.

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Right, And that's that connection. And it does state that

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one of the victims was Monahan's twenty three years younger fiance,

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So that is very much applausibility as to why he

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was there to make identification was for her. But the

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fact that she's on a plane with Alan Riverbank, Riven

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Bank Bark, I can say his name, it's so odd.

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It shows that connection that you were talking about and

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the group that is intertwined there. Let's see. Oh so

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he did. He claimed and identified six of the bodies,

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excluding only a man with Japanese name who was thought

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to be Riven Bark's bodyguard. He also made the arrangements

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for dental records, and he kind of took charge of

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the whole situation. So here again we have this individual

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stepping in to control the situation, in which case I

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think if it had been taken over by the proper authorities,

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that would It's almost like scientology, where they handle their

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own in house retributions. Yeah, so you know this crash

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occurred where it said yeah, yeah, Rocky Mountains, Greenland reported so, yeah,

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in Rocky Mountains, Colorado, Okay, and they.

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Were, well, she's got yeah. I think you're about to

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go over that form. I was about to say, what's that?

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Now you you fill me in, because I really don't

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know a lot about these connections.

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So these planes were suspected to be carrying drugs and

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across different, two different areas.

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That's what I thought that I read. Oh yeah, okay,

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so said Wayne Valentine, chief of DA's Denver office. It's

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very likely possibility the plane was carrying cocaine from South

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America to the United States. At the crash site, investigators

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had found thirty handguns, a holster, one holstered to a

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victim's leg, and fifty to sixty thousand dollars in cash

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in the fresh snow. So they probably hustled there and

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cleared the site given the opportunity to do so. Obviously

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I did. I did want to Actually, this is exactly

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kind of the scenario that occurred in the wrongful death

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conviction of Peter Wilson that I've been discussing is that

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the officers who showed up to do the forensics was

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actually called by their supervisor and told to immediately return

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instead of taking pictures of the scene, to immediately return

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to the police station for some reason. So they're halted

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in their acts of recording. Yeah, yeah, their investigation and

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recording of the happenstances. And this is when I believe Meanwhile,

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officer Yore removed that viole of blood, came back and

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splashed it around the crime scene, called out to the

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coroner to ask him to show up, but he doesn't

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call him until six or seven o'clock at night, and

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he tells him give it about forty five minutes before

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you show up. And even when he shows up, he's

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made to wait outside twenty to twenty five minutes until

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they finish whatever it is they're doing. So this scenario

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sounds exactly the same. You've got somebody who's controlling the

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narrative of what's going to be known about this particular site,

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and probably to collect their drugs before that's found, because

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that's it's not saying the DEA believes it was very possible. Right,

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here's any probably got them. That's why Monahan was sent

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exactly exactly, all seven passengers die in a crash. So

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this article, what did you find interesting about this one?

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So this is this another article that this is the

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actual article that's talking about it, and that other that

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other piece that I sent you was where that reporter

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wrote about it in his book, and this is the

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actual article about it.

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Oh okay, So yeah, then this is here on the

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screen for anybody to come back to and look at

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at another point, but basically covers the items we were

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just discussing. Now I know that we looked at this

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because yes, yeah.

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I love that the cost of that edition of the

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newspaper was twenty five cents.

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Oh yeah, and that's why they had to sell millions,

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So the stories needed to be grand in order to

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sell millions. Ah, Now this one, I know that we've

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seen this article before, and of course it makes that

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connection from mayer Lanski to Riven Bark, correct yep. And

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of course that just brings everybody, Monahan, Riven Bark, everybody

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into the mob realm as you have suggested, which ties

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right back directly to John Walsh, who wanted Monahan to

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to obviously control the investigation or even the identification of

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his son. Is there anything else caught it?

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He called it? He called him his best friend in

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his book.

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Right right, But most people don't know about the background

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that you've dug up. Have you talked Have you talked

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any more to Meghan about being on the show? Yep?

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I think she's about to be in a good place

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where she can have a clear mind for everything.

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So she did.

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Yeah, it would be good to hear from her. So

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is there anything else? I see that there's a red

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box around? Ogawa thirty two, a karate expert, was a

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bouncer at Hollywood's Old for a Clock club. Before he

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was hired, he had been using the name Kenji Bando

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because he was a fugitive from Donya. Police charges Donya,

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like Florida. Yeah, huh okay that he kidnapped and sexually

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assaulted a nineteen year old prostitute. Agawa's former boss at

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the four o'clock club, Mickey Rasso, also was charged in

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the assault. Rauso was later convicted on lesser charges. So

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it just.

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Kind of gives you a picture of what was going

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on during that time, and you could see how easy

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it was to get away with these things, like when

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you had all this other chaos.

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So it says, but for a stroke of fate, there

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would have been eight victims. Hollandale hotel consultant John F. Monahan,

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who said he had been negotiating with Rivenbark to promote

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the ranch. Oh my god, every time you say ranch,

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all I see, all I hear is Epstein was scheduled

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to be on the flight but had to cancel at

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the last minute because of other business. Uh Or he was.

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Told that this was the ranch that was in Colorado,

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that I think that you were. You have you heard

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said we were. We had talked about the ranch in

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Mexico earlier. But those are actually two different ranches. So

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00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:38.079
this was actually a ranch that was very similar to

469
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:42.240
the one that uh Cia and different operatives were brought

470
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:47.039
to at different points for different reasons. That was in

471
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:50.880
Colorado or near Colorado, where that near the actual playing

472
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:53.079
side where that crash was.

473
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:55.759
So that's where that's why I was. That's what the

474
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:58.279
ranches when in this article is talking about.

475
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:00.960
Well, and I find it a little interesting. It says

476
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.160
he was scheduled to be on the flight, but probably

477
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.839
like insider training, he was forewarned. It reminds me of

478
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:09.119
one of the who was the individual or the very

479
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.119
rich person who climbed off the Titanic just before all

480
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:15.720
of that mess went down. Stroke of luck, he is

481
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.079
now the richest person because all the other rich people

482
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:18.960
went down with the boat.

483
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:26.599
So real quick I missed it. How was Meyer Lanski

484
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:28.519
affiliated with this overall situation?

485
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:34.160
That's how he has of him right there.

486
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:38.640
Yeah, so he had dealings with Alan riven Bark, which

487
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.799
was the which was another another cocaine dealer.

488
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:51.480
Okay, yeah name the names Lanski and Vesco were listed

489
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:55.480
in financial ledgers detailing millions of dollars in drug transactions.

490
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:59.079
Those ledgers were confiscated along with nine million worth of

491
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:04.440
marijuana when the shipment was intercepted near Jamestown, Rhode Island.

492
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:09.119
So there's a connection between Monahan and Landski and it

493
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:12.400
looks like drugs or drugs and guns are surrounding that.

494
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:15.119
But as I go into this the little yellow box,

495
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.839
I found it even more interesting. It says he had

496
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:20.559
to cancel but after learning of the crash while in Denver,

497
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:24.559
so he's he's in Denver, he's in Colorado where the

498
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:28.960
plane goes down, but huh canceled taking that plane flight.

499
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:35.680
I find that a little astonishing happens, That's what I'm saying,

500
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:43.680
like insider training. While in Denver, Monahan, employer and fiance

501
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:47.039
of miss Stock, went to the crash site in Eagle, Colorado,

502
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:50.519
to assist with funeral arrangements for several of the crash victims.

503
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:55.400
So that that does make some interesting thoughts, right, some

504
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:56.119
theories there.

505
00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.839
Well, and there we all know where all where my

506
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:01.680
Orlansky was involved in.

507
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:02.960
He was all over the country.

508
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:08.880
Yeah. Yeah. So now this next article said network piped

509
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.920
cocaine to d M. What is this one about?

510
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:15.519
Did I circle anything on here?

511
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:19.359
No? You did not, And it looks to me like

512
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:22.440
it's kind of it. They busted these individuals. It has

513
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:27.480
somebody named Glinski as the supplier for the cocaine. Uh

514
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:30.279
later Ramsey's hook.

515
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:32.559
It was DM stand for.

516
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:44.680
Pipe cocaine, Drug money. Okay, oh it's had on here.

517
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:52.279
Yeah I did. I didn't have as a reliable stream,

518
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:54.839
but the price was high by Big Apple standards. It

519
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.680
was a flat out ripoff, especially for cocaine that was

520
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:03.359
not the best quality. Before it found its way to Low's,

521
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:06.519
somebody in New York had mixed it with a lookalike

522
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:10.759
powder to boost profits. Glinsky was not satisfied with price

523
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:15.640
or quality of his supplies. Hostoled investigators then came a

524
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:19.519
fateful meeting in the Ames Bar. Della Haas John's roommate

525
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:24.039
and an Iowa State University drop out, met Thomas Romsey

526
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:27.440
through mutual friends early in summer of nineteen eighty six.

527
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:31.119
They found themselves together at a party where friends snorted cocaine.

528
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:34.119
The two hit it off, and both men would later

529
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.440
wind up in prison. Tom Ramsey and his brother Michael,

530
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.480
who lived outside of Stratford, were connected to drug suppliers

531
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.799
in a big way. They had two I think this

532
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:49.880
was Iowa, right, that this was a group Desmoins, yeah yes,

533
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:54.599
des Moinese yeah yeah, so probably just another member of

534
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:58.279
the mob, part of the network, right, yeah.

535
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:01.279
Movie drugs to go back in my things because I

536
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:03.519
had it highlighted in mine, but for some reason the

537
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:05.000
highlight didn't take when I sent.

538
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.079
To you, right, And I'm trying to see if I

539
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:11.720
can just scan really quick to see it did mention

540
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:14.079
a John, and I'm not sure who the John is,

541
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:19.640
but John's roommate and Iowa State University drop out, so

542
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:21.839
they must tell us at some point who John is.

543
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:26.079
Well we figured out, oh, John Haws. So it it

544
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:28.920
all had begun so simply for John Haws in nineteen

545
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:31.359
eighty three when he was working at Audio Labs as

546
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:32.160
story store.

547
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:34.920
Carlos Garcia was.

548
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:39.279
A known person that was at the Diplomat. I do

549
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:40.880
know that I see that name in there.

550
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:47.720
Oh okay, the picture in corner, that's the Lensky.

551
00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:51.480
He was just one of the suppliers of the cocaine.

552
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:55.839
Okay, So somehow that was then made a connection to

553
00:32:56.000 --> 00:33:04.680
I'm guessing Monahan. Yeah, Klenski's biggest customers, former tennis shop

554
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:08.960
operator Lester pearl Of in October. Yeah, this just goes

555
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:10.599
on into.

556
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:12.160
Okay, that tennis thing.

557
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.119
They had an event at at the Diplomat for him.

558
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:18.319
For that tennis player. Oh and that's who.

559
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:20.680
And then John John Monahan is the one that ran

560
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.640
that ran that hotel, and John was John Walsh was

561
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:25.559
his manager.

562
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:30.680
So gotcha. So it's just it's just basically making connections again.

563
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:35.079
And here's you've given like this nifty little article. This

564
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.839
is part of that article actually, and it shows the

565
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:43.000
connections from supplier importer. Uh, we're looking at New York,

566
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:49.359
New York, Brazil, Houston. Obviously Texas is back in the mix. Uh, Stratford, Iowa.

567
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:51.359
Yeah.

568
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:53.440
They used to make these really good maps like this

569
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:57.240
in newspapers back in the day, and now you have

570
00:33:57.319 --> 00:33:58.279
to make them yourself.

571
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:05.079
Ames West does Moines, does Moins, does Moines, does Moins.

572
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.599
But then it goes out to the dealers, and the

573
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:16.519
dealers range from does Moines Urbandale Bonderant. Looks like most

574
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:19.199
of this was all happening in the Iowa area. But

575
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.519
he's probably just one leg, right, I mean, honestly, so

576
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:23.599
this is just.

577
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:25.920
Sharlie Like I like this map because it's showing you

578
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:30.960
in that one picture how it's how that triangle worked,

579
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:31.880
because it was right.

580
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:32.880
Remember the triangle.

581
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:37.239
There's the connection to Brazil, the connection to Mexico, the

582
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:41.079
connection to New York. It looks like, yeah, that went

583
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:41.559
down to.

584
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:46.639
Is that the central connection on the left. Isn't that Chicago?

585
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:53.440
Yeah, it says Iowa. It's right close to Chicago. Yeah, Okay,

586
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:58.000
but that's evidently where this individual supplier was doesn't mean

587
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.440
that he wasn't supplying to other places but primarily out

588
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:06.559
taking care of this particular area. Looks like okay, detective

589
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:10.360
linked to suspect in the launch case. So this brought

590
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:14.679
us back to otis O'Toole, And of course then they

591
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:17.320
find out that the evidence has been lost. But this

592
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.400
detective is actually linked to the purported suspect, and probably

593
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:24.039
in the same manner that the Texas Rangers were linked

594
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:26.079
to Henry Lee Lucas, and that was by way of

595
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:30.199
feeding them the information necessary for them to claim responsibility

596
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:33.639
for these murders so that these cases could be closed

597
00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:36.480
on the wrong suspect. So I think that's pretty much

598
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:38.880
what this amounts to, right, Oh, did we lose you?

599
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:41.440
We lost her.

600
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:48.199
She must have got a notification, but she went completely

601
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:53.679
off before her her little box stayed with her name

602
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:57.199
and she just the video went out. But here we've

603
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.320
lost her altogether. So yes, we did talk of a

604
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:06.440
little bit about O'Toole. Now in this next article, this

605
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:15.880
is I think this is also in regards to Oh.

606
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:19.519
Actually this kind of names a whole bunch of people.

607
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:21.960
So this article that she sent me is kind of

608
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.400
the wrap up here says the group met the deadline

609
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.079
and came up with a plan that would be so

610
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:28.639
large in scope that if carried out to the most

611
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:34.079
minute detail, it would become simple by its mere complexity.

612
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:38.159
The plan presented a called presented called for a second

613
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:40.880
airplane to be set up by the CIA. The first

614
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:44.159
was Flying Tigers. This was done and the airline was

615
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:50.239
named Overseas National Overseas National Airline. This airline, suddenly, without

616
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:54.119
yet having any aircraft, received the contracts for all civilian

617
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:58.480
carrier and military cargo into the Pacific RIM in Southeast Asia.

618
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.679
The master plan called for the CIA to enter into

619
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.119
the drug smuggling business in a total and complete fashion.

620
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:08.079
Each of the five planners would have his own field

621
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:11.599
to handle. Bush would be the secret head of ONA

622
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:14.639
and handle all of the shipping of the drugs under

623
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:18.639
forged Waybells. Armitage would be the gopher for the group

624
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:23.880
and the intermediary with any undesirables. General Lansdale would handle

625
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:27.639
all the distribution network and collection services within the military

626
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:31.440
in Vietnam. William Colby was to handle the setting up

627
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:35.199
of all the manpower from runners, peddlers, pushers, collectors, and

628
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.960
so forth, as well as the elimination of any who

629
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:42.199
might prove to be uncontrollable, be the American or Vietnamese.

630
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:46.239
Lieutenant Colonel Ferrera was to use his contacts in Latin

631
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.360
America and in the Middle East to obtain from various

632
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:54.800
governments the needed drug heroin, cocaine, marijuana, LSD, etc. Etc.

633
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.440
As ordered by Colby Bush was to handle the opium

634
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:01.920
from China and subject the addicts to the rehab at

635
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:06.880
Rehab near dot Me. The operation was given the name

636
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:10.519
of Eagle two at the request of Ferreira, for he

637
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:13.000
felt it would be lucky to have the same code

638
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:17.119
as the Eagle Project had participated in when he was

639
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:23.480
with the OSS. Now that's the Office of Secret of

640
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:28.039
Secret Security. Do I have that acronym right? OSS?

641
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:32.320
I feel like that was the precursor the CIA.

642
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.960
It existed during World War Two up until nineteen forty seven.

643
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:40.960
When the CIA was formed, the CIA basically took over

644
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.400
the duties of the OSS. So there was a guy

645
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:46.280
named William Bill Donovan that used to be the head

646
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.880
of the OSS's Wild built.

647
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:52.559
And when did that makes sense? When when did you

648
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:54.039
say that the CIA was.

649
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:58.199
Formed nineteen forty seven, but many of the CIA people

650
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.000
had been former OSS.

651
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:02.760
People, right, and I think I tossed around at one

652
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:06.559
point the possibility of Jack being OSS or something from

653
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:12.599
that particular era. Now, she sent this across and I

654
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:16.039
couldn't rightly read it, but it is the It says

655
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:21.119
the most prolific serial killer in every state. I did

656
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:24.599
read as well that the United States, for whatever unknown reason,

657
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:27.239
has the highest rate of serial killers in it. So

658
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.519
it was interesting to see this little breakdown of serial

659
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:33.599
killers from different states. However, I can't read the information

660
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:35.559
on it, so I was hoping that she was going

661
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:37.480
to be here for me to be able to ask

662
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.920
her whether or not she had a better version of this,

663
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:41.719
because once I blow it up, I can't read it.

664
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:44.840
And they've course got some unknown faces in here, so

665
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.079
that tells us that we've got somebody killing that they've

666
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:50.239
not identified. And it would be interesting to note if

667
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:54.760
these land in the states where we know Jack has been.

668
00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:02.480
Either way, life, teamsters, mafia have freight packed. This was Oh,

669
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:05.760
maybe this is her telling me she has lost contacts.

670
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:11.440
I'm in just need one to let me in. One,

671
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:16.639
let her in, let her in. I can use her

672
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:26.159
right now. M oh, I see the message too. One,

673
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:28.920
can you let me back in? Where's one? Did you

674
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:29.920
take a potty break?

675
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:33.159
Just that way? Is there?

676
00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:33.960
She is right side?

677
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.079
Okay, Yeah, it kicked me out and I was waiting.

678
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.039
I was waiting for one to put me back in.

679
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:40.159
But I guess you didn't see.

680
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:44.400
Yeah, No, you got to go back to the words.

681
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:48.599
Well, yeah, that was a good compilation of those serial

682
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:51.920
killers that they you know, portray as as the ones

683
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:53.880
that are involved in these killings.

684
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:57.320
And are you able to read are you able to

685
00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:58.760
read the information on your end?

686
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:01.039
Oh? Let me No?

687
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:03.280
No, no, I meant like in the article that you

688
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:06.239
have that you sent to me, not necessarily on you

689
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:09.159
can't read it on here because it doesn't it's to blurry.

690
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:10.239
Can't see.

691
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:13.639
I meant in general, on your version? Are you capable

692
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:15.239
of reading it from your end?

693
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:16.159
Oh?

694
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:21.400
Yeah, the one that you have, Okay, okay. So basically

695
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:23.960
it would be interesting, as I was stating, to figure

696
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:27.760
out who these individuals are that are blacked out. They

697
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:31.679
do not have a picture for these individuals to know

698
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:34.719
who they're attributed to and what states, and whether or

699
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:38.320
not those were consistent with where Jack has been because

700
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:40.039
we could place a face in there if we wanted.

701
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.320
Are you still with us, Lindsey, Yeah, I'm there.

702
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:45.800
Okay.

703
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:49.800
So the next one is the Life Teamsters Mafia have

704
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.440
air freight pack. So this article that you sent me,

705
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:56.679
can you explain to us why this one ended up

706
00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:58.480
with us?

707
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:00.760
Let me see.

708
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:10.159
Yeah, oh well, let me show you that the Teamsters

709
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:12.800
are all up in it, just like halfa uh now

710
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:14.320
half is dead already, right.

711
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:14.480
So.

712
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:18.000
Yeah, I think he is.

713
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:23.000
So it just goes that that that air, that air

714
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:26.920
that air I guess it says that air pact of

715
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:31.119
that air freight back to that triangle and kind of

716
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:33.920
shows you, like, like in that article you just read,

717
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:37.360
it links back to where the newspapers were reporting on

718
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:40.360
this kind of thing and nobody is paying attention to it.

719
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:43.480
So c I a bush cocaine and the whole team

720
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:47.960
starts by saying Teamster union leaders have formed an alliance

721
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:52.079
with such well known mafia figures as John Johnny Dio

722
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:56.679
or Diogardi to seize control of the lucrative air freight industry,

723
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:00.440
which already is being plundered by an estimated fifty million

724
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:03.639
to one hundred million a year in cargo fess. Life

725
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:07.639
magazine reported Sunday lif SD the industry, which last year

726
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:11.199
produced revenues of close to one billion, was threatened by

727
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:17.440
a criminal incursion unmatched since prohibition. Cargo thieves have turned

728
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:21.639
airports into a plundering ground. Mobsters and labor racketeers have

729
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:26.440
infiltrated the air freight industry. The nationwide total was estimated

730
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:29.760
in a recent Senate investigation at between fifty million and

731
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:34.039
one hundred million, while mobsters have infiltrated legitimate companies in

732
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.639
the industry to steal from the inside as they monopolized

733
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:41.960
legal profits. The International Brotherhood of Teamsters is maneuvering for

734
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:46.119
a nationwide collective bargaining agreement with the industry, which would

735
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:48.559
give the union the power to shut it down at

736
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:52.639
will with strikes life set. The vehicle for both the

737
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:57.000
BAFIA and the Teamsters is the National Association for Air Freight, Inc.

738
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:01.679
And Industry Trade Association. The Magaze Scene said its goal

739
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:05.199
is to become the exclusive nationwide bargaining agent with the

740
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:09.559
Teamsters for the air freight industry. If that comes about,

741
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:13.760
the MOB through NAAF will be firmly established at all

742
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:17.719
major airports. Its spy system will be broadened and hijacking

743
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:23.000
and theft will increase. The most powerful man with NAA

744
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:28.079
f Anthony Hickey. I can't read his name on there,

745
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:31.400
a soldier in the mafia of the late Vito Genevivees.

746
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:38.039
Just for the record, Yeah, POFA was still alive at

747
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:43.159
that time. He disappeared in July nineteen seventy five, so you'd.

748
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.639
Think he was still alive in Oh, what is this?

749
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.079
So this okay, this is nineteen seventy one. I'm thinking

750
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.760
I'm in today's presence of nineteen ninety one, or not

751
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:55.920
today's presence, but the powerpoints presence of nineteen ninety one.

752
00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:58.360
So yes, you're correct, this is back from seventy one,

753
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:01.840
says Teamsters and sh Fairman of the union's Airlines division,

754
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:05.599
met with the de Lorenzo that's his name and others

755
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:07.920
in early nineteen sixty nine, and in June of that

756
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:13.199
year advised locals to step up recruitment of employees of

757
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:18.559
NAAF companies. The magazine said. A pivotal local in the

758
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:22.800
Teamsters campaign was two ninety five, which represents cargo handlers,

759
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:27.280
truck drivers, and other air freight employees at Kennedy International Airport.

760
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:31.559
The local is run by its secretary Treasurer David or

761
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:35.079
Harry David Off fifty four, an old style tough guy,

762
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:39.159
labor racketeer and kick back expert with long criminal record.

763
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:43.920
So that's interesting. But I didn't see the mentioning of Bush, so.

764
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.199
We're so it just kind of brings in all those

765
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:52.079
characters because and it's like too that up to the present,

766
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:55.480
and it actually pulls in Jack in there as well,

767
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:58.920
because that's during his you know, his prom Tom you

768
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.320
know of his killing with the sixty.

769
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.119
Nine years of Zodiac.

770
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:05.800
I think.

771
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:12.039
The Bush Senior was a senator from from Texas. Good

772
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:14.760
but it wasn't until seventy six that he became head

773
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:18.480
of the CIA. But that doesn't mean he didn't have.

774
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:24.920
Connections prior to that, especially since his dad, Prescott Bush,

775
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:29.199
is deeply involved in a lot of the powerful mucky

776
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:31.079
MUCKs throughout the years.

777
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:33.519
Well yeah, one of the pictures that I saw at

778
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:38.960
the book Depository actually had young Bill Clinton and young

779
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:45.199
Bush in there. They were in the pictures at the depository,

780
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:48.039
and I always thought that was extremely interesting, is who

781
00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:51.760
shuffled these kids off to this location following, you know,

782
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:54.679
the immediate assassination of the president. What in the world

783
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:55.599
are people thinking?

784
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:57.960
And then they both became president later.

785
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:01.480
That's crazy, it's insane. It's insane.

786
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:05.000
It's not a coincidence. It's definitely not a coincidence.

787
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:10.320
No, certainly not. Okay. Now that brings us to your

788
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:12.679
and we're at ten forty seven, so we've got about

789
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.519
two and a half minutes left here. But I did

790
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:18.039
put in your notes, and I think, yeah, I put

791
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:20.360
in your notes and it says the ranches in Colorado

792
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:24.880
is one for mobsters to go to. Alan Rivenbank, huge

793
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:28.960
mobster owned this ranch. Then here we see in Colorado

794
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:31.199
that a plane carrying loads of cocaine crashes near this

795
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:34.199
mobster own ranch. And just so happened that, John Wanahan, Okay,

796
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:36.960
so that covers basically what we've already talked about. But

797
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.599
you've put together kind of a nice little chart flow

798
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:43.159
chart here you want to describe that to us.

799
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:46.119
So it's just it's just how I connect This is

800
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:49.039
just like my evidence of my little scribbles of how

801
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:52.360
it connected all this together, you know, all the way

802
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:57.000
down to from the Cia to the Zodiac, to these cults,

803
00:47:57.079 --> 00:47:59.599
to these to these Baffy to the.

804
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:00.639
Boffia, to the mob.

805
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:04.360
How literally, like as that article just described the teamsters,

806
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.679
as we know that, and we can see that this

807
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:12.039
is definitely a team of people, and you know, and

808
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:16.880
then we have these writings of the Zodiac Jack constantly

809
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:20.480
throughout these years, and as we know that, we think

810
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:21.800
he's one of the writers.

811
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:24.679
Whether after he stopped.

812
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:27.039
The killings or you know, as he was still part

813
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:30.039
of that whole thing, it kept going and going.

814
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:40.119
Well he had you got, you've got like you can't

815
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:43.280
leave you always, you're there for life.

816
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:46.960
You put up here? Who is G. J. Schaeffer? Is

817
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:50.079
that's a question you've been looking to answer? Have you

818
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:50.960
answered that.

819
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:55.719
It was one of the cops that they that he

820
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:58.079
was one of the serial killers. He was actually a

821
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.960
named serial killer if you look up, he was actually

822
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:03.639
a cop. So it's kind of shows you how the

823
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:06.159
law enforcement is involved in all this and how they

824
00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:08.599
do know things and that they don't disclose.

825
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:09.679
Right.

826
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.639
And this is a nice, neat little flow chart here

827
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:14.559
as you're looking at it, it really kind of brings

828
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:19.159
everybody in Texas, Mexico, Florida Hand of Death finders called

829
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:23.800
Alistair Crowley cult members the Hand of Death, which included

830
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:27.239
Henry Lee Lucas and Otis Toole. It just goes on

831
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:29.719
and on. So I think this is interesting enough for

832
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:31.440
everybody to be able to view. You can take a

833
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:34.679
look at it on your own time. That's pretty much

834
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:36.320
all the time we actually have for today. Is there

835
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:38.000
anything else you guys want to add or.

836
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:42.079
We should be lucky my drive home.

837
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.920
I wish you luck. Everybody, have a wonderful weekend and

838
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:48.239
we will see you next Friday. Take care of you, guys,

839
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:48.880
and thank you for.

840
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:51.800
Being sure the beast argument went well.

841
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:55.519
Yeah, yeah, I'll I'll call you.

842
00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:16.599
Right, guys.

843
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:20.559
Sha